There has been some buzz around the Cosgrove-Meurer office that Unsolved Mysteries might come back to TV with new episodes in the future! They are currently looking for new stories, so if you or anyone you know has stories they would like to submit, please do one of the following:

e-mail them via http://www.unsolved.com/contact.html

or mail them to:
Unsolved Mysteries
PO Box 11449
Burbank, CA 91510-1449

Great News! Thanks for the update MysterySolver!! Maybe NBC will bring back the show in primetime. I wonder who the new host will be if they return to new episodes? This is the best news I've heard all day!!! :)

got a link or anything related to this 'buzz' about new episodes?

There has been some buzz around the Cosgrove-Meurer office that Unsolved Mysteries might come back to TV with new episodes in the future! They are currently looking for new stories, so if you or anyone you know has stories they would like to submit, please do one of the following:

e-mail them via http://www.unsolved.com/contact.html

or mail them to:
Unsolved Mysteries
PO Box 11449
Burbank, CA 91510-1449
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Great News! Thanks for the update MysterySolver!! Maybe NBC will bring back the show in primetime. I wonder who the new host will be if they return to new episodes? This is the best news I've heard all day!!! :)

It's "the best news" only if it's true. MysterySolver said there has been "some buzz" about it. So it's too early to know whether this will eventually come into fruition.

Besides, I imagine the studio would want to get a written agreement from a network before they could even consider putting the show back in production. However, the idea of UM returning to NBC is probably wishful thinking; the peacock network's recent financial woes (which has caused them to cut down on scripted shows) might make it a moot point. So Lifetime is probably the best bet.

That would be cool if a NEW Unsloved Mysteries was made, but I'm still curious of to where MysterySolver heard this news, and who would host the NEW UM? Plus we need a show like UM to help people with their Lost Loves,Frauds,Murders, ect. Also I hope Lifetime puts UM back on soon.

That would be cool if a NEW Unsloved Mysteries was made, but I'm still curious of to where MysterySolver heard this news, and who would host the NEW UM?

Chances are, they wouldn't decide on a host until it is certain that an UM revival will materialize. But even if it's true, it might be a considerable amount of time before it happens. So one shouldn't expect an UM revival within several months.

Considering how essential Robert Stack was to the show, he's a tough act to follow. So finding a successor wouldn't be easy. Besides, it would also be a question of whether the audiences would accept someone else as the host of UM. They obviously didn't accept Virginia Madsen (the co-host); otherwise she wouldn't have been excluded from the show when it resumed production in 2001.

I work for Cosgrove-Meurer productions, so that is where I have heard the information. Since the company is still in negotiations with the network who is looking to do a new season of Unsolved Mysteries, I cannot give details with any certainty. The gist of it is that it is most likely a pilot will be done, so the company is looking for new stories to possibly feature in the pilot.

It would be great to see Unsolved Mysteries come back with new and old episodes.

MysterySolver,
There has been a string of college age men who go missing or end up dead along (or in) the Mississippi river in Wisconsin and Minnesota. The police are calling them accidental drownings due to intoxication and binge drinking, but many locals fear that there's a serial killer on the loose, including victims' families. These are very sad cases, all of these boys dying or disappearing under eerily similar circumstances. I personally believe that, whether the deaths are purely alcohol-related or not, there are VERY STRANGE similarities between the cases. The media heat has died down a bit on these cases over the past year, but I really think it's worth looking into. See the links below:

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_missing.html

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/unsolved/la_crosse_wisconsin/index.html

http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/index.aspx?id=817

When did UM end airing new segments? 2004?

When did UM end airing new segments? 2004?

2002. So the show has been out of production for four years now.

Oh MY GOSH!!! How great would it be if UM could come back!!! It wouldn't be the nearly the same without Robert Stack, mind you, but I'm sure he would still want it to continue even after his passing.

2002. So the show has been out of production for four years now.
Thanks for the info.

MysterySolver,
There has been a string of college age men who go missing or end up dead along (or in) the Mississippi river in Wisconsin and Minnesota. The police are calling them accidental drownings due to intoxication and binge drinking, but many locals fear that there's a serial killer on the loose, including victims' families. These are very sad cases, all of these boys dying or disappearing under eerily similar circumstances. I personally believe that, whether the deaths are purely alcohol-related or not, there are VERY STRANGE similarities between the cases. The media heat has died down a bit on these cases over the past year, but I really think it's worth looking into. See the links below:

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_missing.html

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/unsolved/la_crosse_wisconsin/index.html

http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/index.aspx?id=817
Nohwheregirl, thank you very much. I will pass on your story today.

I would like to see new segments,like Johnny Gosch and West Memphis Three case, but if they did one per show of old segments that still haven't been solved that would be good.

Like Jeremy Bright, Kurt Sova, Boys on the Tracks, etc. Redo reenactments, and interview people close to the case again.

also post updates on all the old stories like Jesse James Hollywood getting captured.

I would like to see a story done on Byron Perkins and LeaAnn Howard... Perkins was given a release from jail so he could give his son a much needed kidney transplant and instead of doing so, he fled and hasnt been seen since. He is a pretty sick individual to say the least. LeaAnn was his girlfriend who fled with him.

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=37901

If UM does come back to life, I would hope that they would do more segments on wanted terrorists. It would be wise to do so, especially since this is a post-9/11 era, and we are living in dangerous times.

Here's another story idea to consider: the 1988 disappearance of Virginia C. Douglas. She lived in Lexington, MA (not far from where I live), and she allegedly vanished from a shopping mall in Maine. It's one of the most bizarre missing persons cases I've ever heard of, because her husband Frank's story didn't make sense. Here is one of Virginia's profiles (which includes her out-of-focus pictures):

http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/douglas_virginia.html

Redo reenactments, and interview people close to the case again.

Oooh, that's an EXCELLENT idea. There have been several cases I have watched on UM and figured there was more to the case than what was profiled. Plus, I would imagine there would be several cases where there has been new evidence found since the segment aired but the cases is still unsolved. It would be nice to see some of these cases revisisted after all these years and redone with new information.

Yes, that case about the Wisconsin/Minnesota drownings sounds like it would be a very interesting one. I actually heard something about it on tv not all that long ago. Very possible a serial killer is on the loose targeting college age guys. Offhand, the first theory I have is that the killer is hanging around campus bars and waiting until closing time and targeting someone that is really drunk.

I think the Jacob Wetterling case should be featured. It should have been shown on UM years ago. Google the name for more info.

Plus, they should use the same soundtrack.

Interesting to hear.. please let us know when they actually go into production won't you?


Personally, I rather have C/M put pressure on First Look to release full season DVD's. I think its great that many people are kind enough to share their libraries, but wouldn't it be more advantagous to C/M to pursue the profits of releasing full season dvds... I mean they just came out with the upteenth BOND re-releases despite the fact that every 3 months, AMC,TBS or Spike have Bond Marathons.

A new season (6,7 episodes?) of UM would be be great, but its kind of like hoping I get jet airplane for Christmas, its possible but it's not likely.

As for stories, there are plenty of unsolved kidnappings and murders but I hope that UM also does the unique uplifting stories like Miracles and the message in the bottle segement, after all if we want murder and mayhem when can turn on Nancy to hear her harp.

If this is true, I hope it happens soon.

I think the Jacob Wetterling case should be featured. It should have been shown on UM years ago. Google the name for more info.


I agree. In fact, I keep thinking that the Wetterling case actually was on UM because my brain just can't accept the fact that it wasn't.

A couple more mysteries....
1. The abduction and killing of hundreds of women in Juarez, Mexico (just across the border from El Paso)
2. The I-40 murders

I agree. In fact, I keep thinking that the Wetterling case actually was on UM because my brain just can't accept the fact that it wasn't.

A couple more mysteries....
1. The abduction and killing of hundreds of women in Juarez, Mexico (just across the border from El Paso)
2. The I-40 murders

nowheregirl, I agree that Jacob Wetterling would be a good segment for UM. Do you have any more info on those other two cases you mentioned? They sound very interesting.

nowheregirl, I agree that Jacob Wetterling would be a good segment for UM. Do you have any more info on those other two cases you mentioned? They sound very interesting.

Sure thing....
Juarez murders: http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/ciudad_juarez/

I-40 murders:
http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=442

Oh, and an older case, but apparently recently reopened is the Oakland County, MI child murders, aka "The Babysitter":
http://www.geocities.com/jtoddmatthews/Oakland_murders.html

How about Natalee Holloway? I know we've heard enough about her from various news outlets since her disappearance but maybe UM could do a seggie on her and if possibnle uncover some new info about the case..if possible?

Now that I've mentioned the disappearance of Virginia Douglas as an ideal story for UM, there's another one from my home state of Massachusetts that's worth considering: the 1995 murder of Deanna Cremin.

She was a teenager who was found strangled to death near her Somerville home. A boyfriend of hers acted suspiciously; for example, he refused to take a lie detector test. In addition, he wouldn't answer any questions at a grand jury hearing. Although there isn't enough evidence to make any arrests in the case, the boyfriend has not been ruled out as a suspect.

I would like to see Court TV pick it up. They would be a great fit and they could use some good new programming to go along with Forensic Files.

Sleuth could be another option.

I would like to see Court TV pick it up. They would be a great fit and they could use some good new programming to go along with Forensic Files.

Well, the problem is that in order for UM to be picked up by CourtTV, the show would have to exclude non-crime stories. So it's not worth compromising a show just to get it picked up by a given network. Besides, UM isn't just about crime stories; it's also about UFOs, ghosts, and lost loves.

My two cents worth.

Sleuth could be another option.

Unfortunately, more than half of all U.S. cable systems don't carry that channel, and my local cable system is no exception.

However, I do agree with one general fact: UM could only be shown on a cable network.

This sounds really interesting, but I'll believe it when I see it.

I bought the Pre-Stack specials (with hosts Raymond Burr and Karl Malden) from CrystalDawn a while back, and was surprised at how much I enjoyed them, despite Robert Stack not being the host. That gave me hope for future new episodes. What I noticed was the mood/music/tone of the show is what made it good. That feel the show had in the late 80's and early 90's was fantastic, and terrifying.

I think they should re-visit that spooky feeling. I also second (or third, or fourth) the idea of revisiting old stories. Once a week, revisit an unsolved case from 10-15 years ago. Hold new interviews with the participants, and ask for new leads. Several that come to mind are the Baskin children abduction, Amy Billig, the "suicide" of Tommy Burkett, Lisa Ziegert, etc. Revisiting these cases could help solve them.

Also, I think A&E is the obvious network choice.

Or maybe FX, or Bravo. Maybe even MSNBC?

Please not Spike TV.

Maybe even MSNBC?

The series doesn't have a realistic shot at being acquired by MSNBC. I just don't see how UM would fit on that network (or any news channel for that matter).

Please not Spike TV.

Spike TV probably wouldn't be interested in the show anyway.

Of new stories for another UM, there was one major story UM never touched. Just from an outside the US perspective; the JFK assassination. I mean I know the US government would have us believe it's been "solved" but come on...:lookaroun

Here's one that has never made it to any of the national shows, to my knowledge. The Stardust Hotel and Casino closed on November 1 after 48 years. It will be imploded early next year. But it leaves behind one mystery that locals still talk about.

In maybe 1994 a sportsbook employee of the Stardust walked out the door of the casino at night, with at least $250,000 in cash and chips, about half of each. I've heard reports it was closer to a half million. He was a trusted employee of the sportsbook, in charge of the nightly count after the sportsbook closed.

There was a narrow corridor connecting to the sportsbook and leading outside to the parking lot north of the casino. The employee, a 30ish male but I forget his name, simply took the nightly haul and headed outside. He was never apprehended. You get the occasional report that he was found and left in the desert, but that's local speculation.

Before the Stardust closed they had a finale radio program and the employee who supervised the shift that night in '94 confirmed the hotel had no knowledge of the whereabouts of the employee who took off. The guy apparently walked across the street to the weekly place he was staying, called the Convention Center Lodge, got his cat, and took off.

Unfortunately, the Convention Center Lodge is long gone and with the Stardust closing there might be a problem in replicating the segment, but I'm sure many people who worked for the Stardust at the time and knew the employee would be glad to recount the event, and speculate how the guy pulled it off and where he went. Must have been a decent plan.

And it definitely annoyed the Stardust. They changed the casino chips immediately, trying to thwart the guy from cashing the ones he took. The old chips would still be good, of course, but anyone coming back months or years later and trying to cash old chips would immediately be under suspicion, especially if they were for high dollar amounts.

Here are two cases I think should be given some attention on the New UM:

Trenton Duckett (The little boy from Florida who recently disappeared, and then his mother committed suicide.)

Brian Wells/The Erie Collar Bomber (this one just CREEPED ME OUT):
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=27382

Also, I agree with ForeverPluto about Natalee Halloway. Maybe a segment tying her in with Amy Bradley. I know a lot of people have started to compare those two cases.

Of new stories for another UM, there was one major story UM never touched. Just from an outside the US perspective; the JFK assassination. I mean I know the US government would have us believe it's been "solved" but come on...:lookaroun

JFK would be good to 're-open'.....that could easily make another hour or 90 minute special with all the theories.

Also, this brings me to bring back some of the unsolved serial killing cases that intrigue me so much.

What about The Axeman of New Orleans, a separate Zodiac Killer segment without being tied in to the Unabomber case (I don't belive they are the same, but that's another thread) and Jack-the-Ripper. I know the latter took place over 100 years ago now but the speculation and the story-telling would be cool.

Just my thoughts.....

If UM does come back to life, I would hope that they would do more segments on wanted terrorists, especially those connected to the attacks on September 11, 2001. That would be extremely important since this is a post-9/11 era, and we are living in dangerous times. (Just don't do any segments about any of the so-called 9/11 conspiracy theories.)

Here's another story idea to consider: the 1988 disappearance of Virginia C. Douglas. She lived in Lexington, MA (not far from where I live), and she allegedly vanished from a shopping mall in Maine. It's one of the most bizarre missing persons cases I've ever heard of, because her husband Frank's story didn't make sense. Here is one of Virginia's profiles (which includes her out-of-focus pictures):

http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/douglas_virginia.html
How convenient that you want them to create stories based on your political leanings, yet ignore the completely clear failures of the Bush administration. If the President can't find these "terrorists," why would UM be able to?

How convenient that you want them to create stories based on your political leanings, yet ignore the completely clear failures of the Bush administration. If the President can't find these "terrorists," why would UM be able to?

With all due respect, scotterguy911, this has nothing to do with one's political leanings. Hunting bad guys isn't supposed to be about politics, it's about public service. There is no reason why the bad guys we hunt shouldn't include wanted terrorists.

If your criticism towards me is based on my suggestion against stories about 9/11 conspiracy theories, then that's understandable. However, I don't feel that the 9/11 conspiracy theories would be an appropriate topic for UM to explore.

It's horrible enough that about 3,000 of our fellow citizens were slaughtered on 9/11. But spending more vitriol talking about the U.S. government than about the 9/11 highjackers has only made things worse, not better. Besides, there are already too many sources (TV, web sites, etc.) dealing with that nonsense without UM joining in. I just find it to be disrespectful to the memories of those who were massacred that horrible day, and to their surviving loved ones.

Here's another story idea to consider: the 1988 disappearance of Virginia C. Douglas. She lived in Lexington, MA (not far from where I live), and she allegedly vanished from a shopping mall in Maine. It's one of the most bizarre missing persons cases I've ever heard of, because her husband Frank's story didn't make sense. Here is one of Virginia's profiles (which includes her out-of-focus pictures):

http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/douglas_virginia.html

Wowww... what an interesting story. This would have totally been up UM's alley, although I tend to wonder if the husband would have allowed himself to have been interviewed. It's hard to reach a conclusion based on her profile at the Charley Project, but I tend to agree with the family: There is no way she left her home. It wasn't locked up as she normally would have locked it, and then when you tie in the blood on the carpet and the clump of hair by the doorstop... it looks pretty bad for the husband.

And what the hell was he doing buying lingerie as an "omen" that his wife would return? Strange....

In maybe 1994 a sportsbook employee of the Stardust walked out the door of the casino at night, with at least $250,000 in cash and chips, about half of each. I've heard reports it was closer to a half million. He was a trusted employee of the sportsbook, in charge of the nightly count after the sportsbook closed.

Could it have been Bonnie Wilder dressed as a man? ;)

Is there a real possibility that the show will do new episodes? My fear is the that it will be on Cable and have a lower production budget and thus reduce the quality it had during its hey day. I also hate this trend that current crime shows have like AMW, where the graphics mimic browsing online. The overuse of computer graphics and imagery make it look like a video game. You can call me a purist; but I prefer the old style. If Um returns it should be close in quality to the past not just a generic 2nd rate reproduction. It shouldn't be like an old athlete or old rock band who are outdated or past their prime.

Is there a real possibility that the show will do new episodes?

That's anyone's guess. The thread starter, Mysterysolver, said there was only "buzz" about it, but that's basically it. I believe that, for the interim, Mysterysolver is being cautious as to what he or she has been telling us, so that we don't get too excited too soon.

Wowww... what an interesting story. This would have totally been up UM's alley, although I tend to wonder if the husband would have allowed himself to have been interviewed. It's hard to reach a conclusion based on her profile at the Charley Project, but I tend to agree with the family: There is no way she left her home. It wasn't locked up as she normally would have locked it, and then when you tie in the blood on the carpet and the clump of hair by the doorstop... it looks pretty bad for the husband.

And what the hell was he doing buying lingerie as an "omen" that his wife would return? Strange....

I don't get the "omen" thing myself, either. Like I said, it didn't make sense. :confused: It may not be proof of guilt, but it certainly is suspicious.

I have no doubt that it would have been a proper story for UM.

With all due respect, scotterguy911, this has nothing to do with one's political leanings. Hunting bad guys isn't supposed to be about politics, it's about public service. There is no reason why the bad guys we hunt shouldn't include wanted terrorists.

If your criticism towards me is based on my suggestion against stories about 9/11 conspiracy theories, then that's understandable. However, I don't feel that the 9/11 conspiracy theories would be an appropriate topic for UM to explore.

It's horrible enough that about 3,000 of our fellow citizens were slaughtered on 9/11. But spending more vitriol talking about the U.S. government than about the 9/11 highjackers has only made things worse, not better. Besides, there are already too many sources (TV, web sites, etc.) dealing with that nonsense without UM joining in. I just find it to be disrespectful to the memories of those who were massacred that horrible day, and to their surviving loved ones.

Yet again, we see your political bias in your postes "9/11 conspiracy theories" ... no more a conspiracy theory than those of WMDs or the link between Iraq and 9/11

Yet again, we see your political bias in your postes "9/11 conspiracy theories" ... no more a conspiracy theory than those of WMDs or the link between Iraq and 9/11

Scotterguy911, I am trying to be understanding with your criticism towards me, but my patience is beginning to wear thin.

Just because I don't happen to buy into the 9/11 conspiracy theories (e.g., the belief that the government orchestrated the attacks, when it was Islamofascists who slammed planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon), doesn't mean I have "political bias." I am entitled to my opinion, as much as you are entitled to your own opinion. You can agree or disagree with me if you want, but the "political bias" accusation was completely uncalled-for.

Whoa. Pardon me for jumping into this argument, but I feel as if Kane is being railroaded here and I, personally, am not cool with it. Yes, those of us who have frequented the boards know that Kane is passionate about politics. While Kane and I sometimes differ in opinion, I feel as if he is totally entitled to *his* opinion.

The topic Kane initally brought up was a suggestion that UM hypothetically cover the search for terrorists related to the 9/11 attack. As UM covered the story of the Unabomber, it is certainly not out of the question to think that it would be a story that UM would be interested in.

I think (and if I'm wrong, Kane will correct me) that the 9/11-conspiracy comment was basically made because Kane felt that it is was a story that UM would not be interested in covering. Personally, I think it would be interesting. I don't know if I put much stock into the theory, but I'd watch the segment if it were produced. However, I respect Kane's opinion in saying that he would not be interested in such a segment, and I didn't feel that he was "pushing" any political message onto anyone in making such a comment.

That being said... I'm going to bed. Conflicts make me sleepy.

I agree with Ricci that Kane was not making a political statement by saying he would not be interested in a 9/11 conspiracy segment. Personally I dont think the theory holds much weight b ut I would be willing to watch it. Scottieguy it seems the only one that is pushing politics is you. You seem to allege that if someone is not interested in listening to a 9/11 conspiracy that they must be a hard core foolish Bush republican. Everyone has their right to their own political believes regardless of which party or ideology they have. It is one thing to disagree with Kane, Scottie, I think he is fine with that. I think he has a problem with you though alleging there is some kind of hidden political agenda on Kane's part when there is obviously not one. I am sure there are liberals out there in fact many of them that do not believe 9/11 was a conspiracy just like most conservatives do not believe there was a conspiracy.

JFK would be good to 're-open'.....that could easily make another hour or 90 minute special with all the theories.

It would have to work as such (just like what they did on the episode about the escape from Alcatraz). The JFK assassination is such a complex case that it wouldn't work as a half-hour UM segment (and certainly not as a 15-minute segment).

It would have to work as such (just like what they did on the episode about the escape from Alcatraz). The JFK assassination is such a complex case that it wouldn't work as a half-hour UM segment (and certainly not as a 15-minute segment).

Actually, it's not complex at all. It's a nutcase who took a potshot through an open window many months earlier at an ambassador and missed. Then he happens to get a job at a book depository long before JFK's trip was planned, or the route decided upon. He already has a cheap mail order rifle before finding the job, smuggles it into the building disguised as curtain rods, and kills the president with the last of three direct shots.

It's complex only if you believe the wacko theories, assigning hundreds or thousands of variables and laughably asserting the combined mess is somehow more likely or feasible than one inconsequential jerk firing from an open window.

Everything lines up perfectly. The single bullet theory is not a theory at all. Read Gerald Posner's book. He's one of the few who focuses on common sense truth, and isn't pathetic enough to intentionally take advantage of all the conspiracy-minded, probability-unaware goofs who will believe anything. Excuse me. They'll believe anything other than the guy fleeing from the scene, and later killing Officer J.D. Tippett, could actually have pulled the trigger from the 5th floor.

This is another case where no one's mind is ever changed so no use debating it. It's just unfortunate so many people were warped by crap like Oliver Stone's movie, or internet conspiratorial frenzy.

Actually, it's not complex at all. It's a nutcase who took a potshot through an open window many months earlier at an ambassador and missed. Then he happens to get a job at a book depository long before JFK's trip was planned, or the route decided upon. He already has a cheap mail order rifle before finding the job, smuggles it into the building disguised as curtain rods, and kills the president with the last of three direct shots.

It's complex only if you believe the wacko theories, assigning hundreds or thousands of variables and laughably asserting the combined mess is somehow more likely or feasible than one inconsequential jerk firing from an open window.

I see what you mean. Indeed, there are some "wacko" theories surrounding the case. I should have actually said that the case seemed complex in the sense that it has been swamped with all sorts of theories (some plausible, some not-so plasible).

My bad. :)


It's just unfortunate so many people were warped by crap like Oliver Stone's movie, or internet conspiratorial frenzy.

I agree with you on that, even though I haven't seen the Oliver Stone movie. Stone managed to convince people that he had new info on the case, but it came to light that he didn't.

Although JFK won two Oscar awards (Best Cinematography and Best Film Editing), it lost the Best Picture award to Silence of the Lambs. I suspect that JFK was too controversial to win that award.

I think a good case would be of the death of rapper Notrious B.I.G.

Scotterguy911, I am trying to be understanding with your criticism towards me, but my patience is beginning to wear thin.

Just because I don't happen to buy into the 9/11 conspiracy theories (e.g., the belief that the government orchestrated the attacks, when it was Islamofascists who slammed planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon), doesn't mean I have "political bias." I am entitled to my opinion, as much as you are entitled to your own opinion. You can agree or disagree with me if you want, but the "political bias" accusation was completely uncalled-for.

Firstly, the term 'Islamofascist' was a word invented by this administration and the Republicans .. it doesn't represent anyone in reality. Secondly, why would you assume Unsolved Mysteries wouldn't want to cover 9/11 conspiracies? It's not as UM hasn't covered other similar stories in the past. It is interesting that you don't want such stories to come to surface.

Firstly, the term 'Islamofascist' was a word invented by this administration and the Republicans .. it doesn't represent anyone in reality. Secondly, why would you assume Unsolved Mysteries wouldn't want to cover 9/11 conspiracies? It's not as UM hasn't covered other similar stories in the past. It is interesting that you don't want such stories to come to surface.

I'll bet you believe that Franklin Roosevelt knew ahead of time that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked. I also bet that you're one of those people who admire the late Tookie Williams, believing that he didn't shotgun four people to death. :lol:

But seriously, I am well aware that UM has had stories involving conspiracy theories. It's not about not wanting any given story to come to the surface, because they already have. Conspiracy theories are one thing, but it's another thing when a story becomes so flooded with conspiracy theories they end up including theories that are not based on evidence or facts. I don't see any credible evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, so I choose not believe that to be the case.


Are you sure the GOP invented the term "Islamofascism"? Talk-radio icon Michael Savage (an Independent, by the way) has been saying that term for a number of years now.

Let's give this bickering a rest, shall we?

I don't recall this being shown on UM (it was on another show--possibly 48 Hours). Two teenage girls and the one girl's mother went missing from their home and no trace of them has been found.

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/618dfmo.html

http://www.ci.springfield.mo.us/spd/Miscellanea/3missingwomen.html
http://springfield.news-leader.com/specialreports/threemissingwomen/0607-Missingwom-106148.html

The murders in Juarez would be a good one to profile. I'd love to see some UM specials, but for now I'm not holding my breath.

So, what's the latest on any New UM episodes or specials? Any concrete news from Cosgrove-Meuer?

MysterySolver,
There has been a string of college age men who go missing or end up dead along (or in) the Mississippi river in Wisconsin and Minnesota. The police are calling them accidental drownings due to intoxication and binge drinking, but many locals fear that there's a serial killer on the loose, including victims' families. These are very sad cases, all of these boys dying or disappearing under eerily similar circumstances. I personally believe that, whether the deaths are purely alcohol-related or not, there are VERY STRANGE similarities between the cases. The media heat has died down a bit on these cases over the past year, but I really think it's worth looking into. See the links below:

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_missing.html

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/unsolved/la_crosse_wisconsin/index.html

http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/index.aspx?id=817


yes there needs to be something about this one...i'm surprised Dateline hasn't done a segment on this. there is no doubt in my mind this is the work of a serial killer. the police are a bunch of azzholes blaming alcohol on all these deaths....people don't just walk into a river because they're drunk...okay maybe once in a blue moon....not 9 people in that place in 9 years...and many more around the midwest.....in fact if you look at the vance holmes website the police finally recanted their BS alcohol culprit and admitted that one of those boys was murdered...four years late though....also some of these boys had so much booze in their system that if there was no foul play....they would be passed out on the street or something or in the bar or right outside the bar...people with .29 alcohol in their bodies and higher (some of the drowning victims) are seriously drunk and unable to function (most people) oh and all these victims are young men, why no women drowning? also some of the victims clothing was neatly folded when it was found and one boy's hat was hanging up on a post or something. Sure people do some dumb things when they drink but jumping into a river with nobody present isn't one of them. And anyone who's been drunk or even very drunk (but not .29) is not completely incapable of doing ANYTHING, if you fall into a river, even if you're drunk 9 outta 10 people will still make it to shore safely...they'd have to be pretty loaded to be incapable of swimming if their life literally depends on it...is the current that rough in the mississippi? if they were so drunk they couldn't function they never would've made it to the water anyway...unless some sick mofo threw them in.

I'd like to see some UM segments on the following missing people

-brian shaffer (missing ohio st medical student, google for info)

-jennifer kesse (missing tampa, fla girl, lots of info online)

-natalee holloway

-michael negrete

There was a recent AP article about these drownings:

Professor: La Crosse student drownings might be murder

By Todd Richmond
Associated Press
December 11, 2006

ST. CLOUD, Minn. - Vanishing students. Dead bodies. Fears something sinister is lurking in the shadows.

A string of college student drownings across the Midwest has all the makings of great mystery. Or does it?

Rumors have persisted for years that a serial killer is prowling Interstate 94, hunting young men in college bars and plunging them underwater. Investigators, though, say there's no evidence of foul play. They say the victims were so drunk they fell in the river and died.

Not so fast, says criminologist Douglas Gilbertson.

An assistant criminology professor at St. Cloud State University, Gilbertson has spent most of the past year researching the drownings. He completed a study this spring he believes shows patterns that indicate some of the cases could be murders - and could be linked.

"We definitely do have some cases that are just not accidents. When you fill in the patterns that are coming out, that's the next logical step," Gilbertson said.

St. Cloud Police Chief Dennis Ballantine, whose department investigated the drowning death of a St. Cloud State student this spring and concluded it was an accident, called Gilbertson's study a collection of coincidences.

"It would make a great TV drama, but there's no evidence to support it," Ballantine said. "The only common denominator I'm aware of is young people, alcohol and water."

According to Gilbertson's study, more than 20 college-age men from Minnesota to Ohio have drowned after disappearing from a bar or party since 1997. One of the hot spots is La Crosse, which sits on the Mississippi River and is home to three colleges. Eight college-age men have turned up dead in area rivers after vanishing from bars in the last eight years. Police have ruled the deaths accidental.

The St. Cloud area has seen cases, too. In 2002, St. John's University student Josh Guimond disappeared after leaving a party in Collegeville. This past spring 21-year-old St. Cloud State student Scot Radel disappeared after leaving a downtown bar. His body was later found in the Mississippi River.

In 2004, La Crosse police called a town meeting to allay that city's fears, but ended up getting heckled by people who insisted a killer was on the loose. And talk of a possible killer is everywhere on the Internet.

The killer theory got a boost this fall when Minneapolis police abruptly changed course in University of Minnesota student Chris Jenkins' death. Jenkins vanished from a downtown bar on Halloween 2002 and turned up dead along the Mississippi.

Investigators originally ruled Jenkins' death an accident or suicide, but reclassified it a homicide in November.

The about-face caused other investigators to re-examine their conclusions, but so far no links to Jenkins have emerged. Police in La Crosse have asked the FBI to recheck their findings in the drownings, however.

La Crosse Police Lt. Bob Berndt said he's aware of Gilbertson's study, but his department stands behind its conclusions.

"As police officers we have to deal with the facts," he said.

The Mississippi River divides St. Cloud, a city of about 61,000 people on the wooded plains about 1 hour and 20 minutes northwest of Minneapolis. Just as in La Crosse, the downtown bar district sits less than three blocks from the river.

Radel's death spurred Gilbertson to dig deeper into the drownings. He and two graduate students scoured the Internet, newspaper stories and police reports. They found 22 victims who went to college within 50 miles of I-94 between Moorhead, Minn., and East Lansing, Mich.

The victims fit a profile: white or Asian men in their early 20s, generally around 5-foot-8 and 165 pounds and athletic, with good grades. No victims were women.

They also found nearly 94 percent of the cities where the drownings took place were within 100 miles of I-94. Nearly 82 percent of the drownings occurred during the first two weeks of the month, and three-quarters of the disappearances occurred when the moon was less than half-full.

Gilbertson said he can't judge some cases because he doesn't have enough information. He also acknowledges some are accidental. But he said others could be murders.

If the drownings were all random, there should be greater racial and academic diversity among the victims and they should be scattered all over the map, Gilbertson said.

The moonlight factor could support accidents because drunks would have less light to stumble around in, Gilbertson said. But it also could support a killer operating when darkness is deepest.

Amanda Presenger, one of the students who worked on the study, said the findings support the idea of a killer who travels the Midwest, perhaps for business.

"He's traveling back and forth, maybe at certain times of the month or certain times of the year. Maybe he travels closer to the beginning of the month for his job," said Presenger, 26, of Thunder Bay, Ont.

But for every reason to think a killer is at work, there's a counterpoint.

In 2004, weeks after University of Wisconsin-La Crosse wrestler Jared Dion was found dead in the Mississippi, two professors wrote a letter to students arguing the drownings are accidents.

Allan Radel, Scot Radel's father, said he hasn't seen Gilbertson's findings. He thinks his son escaped from someone who had him in a car and meant to rob him. Footprints show Scot tumbled down an embankment to the Mississippi as he was running, headed across the frozen river and fell into open water.

"We do not believe Scot was murdered," Radel, of Owatonna, Minn., said. "We believe our son would be alive today if he hadn't been overserved with alcohol and if he hadn't been alone."

Hey, what about the disappearance of Olivia Newton-John's boyfriend? I heard her talking about it not too long ago on an episode of Larry King Live, but haven't heard much else about it. I think this is really interesting and would be a potentially good segment. I do know he disappeared in some mountains and Olivia is not being considered as a suspect.

I forgot about that case. It would be interesting to see. I mean, why would anyone run away from someone as gorgeous as Olivia Newton-John?

Ah, crap. Now I'm going to have the soundtrack from Grease stuck in my head all day...

So, what's the latest on any New UM episodes or specials? Any concrete news from Cosgrove-Meuer?
I agree. Has there been any more news?

I agree. Has there been any more news?

Ask Mysterysolver. :idea:

Ask Mysterysolver. :idea:
Thanks for the advice Kane.

If Mysterysolver or whoever is still taking 'suggestions' for cases, I've got a pretty good one right here......

Amber Harris (http://www.amw.com/missing_children/brief.cfm?id=36863)

A 12 year old girl who got off her school bus on the near north side and vanished November of '05. Her skeletal remains were found in Hummel Park, NE of Omaha this past May. An autopsy showed she was beaten/bludgoned to death.

I don't recall this being shown on UM (it was on another show--possibly 48 Hours). Two teenage girls and the one girl's mother went missing from their home and no trace of them has been found.

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/618dfmo.html

http://www.ci.springfield.mo.us/spd/Miscellanea/3missingwomen.html
http://springfield.news-leader.com/specialreports/threemissingwomen/0607-Missingwom-106148.html

The murders in Juarez would be a good one to profile. I'd love to see some UM specials, but for now I'm not holding my breath.

WOW!! This has got to be the most BIZARRE case EVER or at least one of the top 2 or 3 most bizarre cases EVER!!!

They completely disappear without a trace and all their purses and keys and other valuables are left in the house so it's obviously not a burglary. It appears to be a sex crime since 2 of the girls were 18 and just graduated from high school so most likely they were abducted, raped, and killed along with with the mother.

It's amazing that they couldn't find any evidence left behind AT ALL with all the forensic technology out there. No fingerprints, hairs, DNA, footprints, etc. etc.

Unfortunately, it looks like their may be a PERFECT CRIME after all.

I'm really suprised America's Most Wanted has not profiled them since they profile missing people and go crazy when there is a missing girl somewhere. The Springfiled police should contact AMW and 48 Hours since it would be good to put in on there too.

There are many stories from Australia which are worth considering. These include:

* Picton Tunnel - A tunnel in Picton, NSW, Australia, which is said to be haunted by a ghost of a young girl who was hit by a train during the early 20th Century.

*The disappearance of Gordana Kotevski - Kotevski was last seen at 8.30 p.m. in Charlestown, New South Wales on November 24, 1994.
She was kidnapped as she walked to her aunt`s house from a suburban Newcastle shopping centre. Kotevski's aunt heard what sounded like a scream outside the house at about 8:45 p.m., but when she looked outside she saw only a four-wheel drive vehicle going off down the street.
By about 9.30 p.m. when Gordana had not turned up, relatives found on the footpath outside her aunt's house, a torn shopping bag that she had been carrying containing her purse, a new item of clothing and socks.
Witnesses have revealed that the vehicle was a white Hi-Lux 4WD but of unknown registration. The driver was not seen.

I'll list more when I think of them.

I also remember a story which was broadcast on the Australian equivalent of Unsolved Mysteries titled "The Extraordinary".

Around the late 1980's, possibly early 1990's, a couple/family (can't remember which) is driving along the Hume Highway in New South Wales, Australia from Sydney to Canberra (260km, or a 4 hour drive), and the whole time, a small UFO is hovering above their car, moving at the same speed as the car, hovering at about maybe 20-30 metres above the car. There were several witnesses who have driven past the car and had seen the object, but the people in the car had no idea why everybody was looking at them so unusually.

I also remember a story which was broadcast on the Australian equivalent of Unsolved Mysteries titled "The Extraordinary".

Around the late 1980's, possibly early 1990's, a couple/family (can't remember which) is driving along the Hume Highway in New South Wales, Australia from Sydney to Canberra (260km, or a 4 hour drive), and the whole time, a small UFO is hovering above their car, moving at the same speed as the car, hovering at about maybe 20-30 metres above the car. There were several witnesses who have driven past the car and had seen the object, but the people in the car had no idea why everybody was looking at them so unusually.

hmmm what you are reffering too was a proven hoax and they admitted it.
And The Extraordinary was total shiit. it sucked. Only thing extraordinary bout that was how old that guy was who hosted it. 100+

Oh OK, I didn't know that it was proven as a hoax. Interesting. Pretty stupid thing to go out of your way to do such a thing, and then just admit that it was all a hoax.

How did they pull it off? Anybody know?

Yes, Warwick Moss (the host of The Extraordinary) did act a bit too hard on that show, making his voice extra husky. He then went on to host Bright Ideas, which was a really crappy lifestyle program which aired on Saturday Afternoons.

Oh OK, I didn't know that it was proven as a hoax. Interesting. Pretty stupid thing to go out of your way to do such a thing, and then just admit that it was all a hoax.

How did they pull it off? Anybody know?

Yes, Warwick Moss (the host of The Extraordinary) did act a bit too hard on that show, making his voice extra husky. He then went on to host Bright Ideas, which was a really crappy lifestyle program which aired on Saturday Afternoons.

As I remember this happened in very early January 1987, I tried searching just then for more info but couldn't find anything. They were actually travelling across WA --> SA and claimed a UFO flew on top of them and lifted their car off the ground. I believe the car was examined and no UFO evidence was found. They claimed this UFO blew crap into the car and it was found that it was some sort of engine dust (or something) and nothing unnatural..not long after they admitted to making the whole thing up. Wasn't a bad story in it's day, all over the front pages and that. I think you're right, I think a midnight trucker came forward and corroborated the story, he was either in on it or high on no doze.

Well there you go.

I remember back in the day when this story was popular. There's different adaptations, but the version I remember had the people travelling from Sydney to Canberra, but I can't be sure if that was the real story. I'll take your word for it that they were travelling from WA to SA, possibly along the Nullabor.

No.

Although the concept of a new Unsolved Mysteries show would be excellent, I don't think it could live up to, or be as successful as the Unsolved Mysteries we all enjoy. I don't think you could make it the way Robert Stack made it. He made the show was it is and his job has pretty big shoes to fill. It just wouldn't be Unsolved Mysteries without Stacky.

It just wouldn't be Unsolved Mysteries without Stacky.


Stacky, huh? I'll have to file that one in my "Nicknames for Robert Stack" stack...:lol:

Although the concept of a new Unsolved Mysteries show would be excellent, I don't think it could live up to, or be as successful as the Unsolved Mysteries we all enjoy. I don't think you could make it the way Robert Stack made it. He made the show was it is and his job has pretty big shoes to fill. It just wouldn't be Unsolved Mysteries without Stacky.

It's the intellectually stimulating and mysterious stories that make UM interesting, not the host.

There were incredible amazing unsolved mysteries before Stack was born and there will be after we all die so it has nothing to with the host.

If you get good UM segments the show can succeed again.

It's the intellectually stimulating and mysterious stories that make UM interesting, not the host.

There were incredible amazing unsolved mysteries before Stack was born and there will be after we all die so it has nothing to with the host.

If you get good UM segments the show can succeed again.

I agree. There are many shows dedicated to mysteries and unsolved crimes which are successful. I would like to see a new series of Unsolved Mysteries being brought back, however, I don't believe it would be the same without Robert Stack.

Here are two cases I think should be given some attention on the New UM:

Trenton Duckett (The little boy from Florida who recently disappeared, and then his mother committed suicide.)

Brian Wells/The Erie Collar Bomber (this one just CREEPED ME OUT):
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=27382

Also, I agree with ForeverPluto about Natalee Halloway. Maybe a segment tying her in with Amy Bradley. I know a lot of people have started to compare those two cases.

The Trenton Duckett case is so sad.....and the one person who may have known what happened to him may have taken it with her to her grave. :(

Is there any further informtion on the NEW Unsloved Mysteries?

Any new information on the New Unsloved Mysteries would be appreciated.
:)

Is there any further informtion on the NEW Unsloved Mysteries?

Contact the thread starter, MysterySolver (who described him/herself as an employee of Cosgrove & Meurer). Send MysterySolver a private message, if need be.

Hope this helps. :)

For the moment things have stalled in contract negotiations, so there is no new information yet to report.

For the moment things have stalled in contract negotiations, so there is no new information yet to report.
Many Thanks.

The case I would want profiled comes from my home town, Philadelphia. It seems that two years ago a couple, Richard Petrone and Danielle Imbo from New Jersey, were out with friends having drinks at a bar on South Street, a hip section of the city with lots of nightclubs. Anyway, they left the bar (a place where I've been a few times myself), evidently got into their black Dodge Dakota pickup truck, and have never been seen since. The car has never turned up either.

Link: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=5044330

I wonder if they'd do a segment on Jack-the-Ripper if a New Unsolved Mysteries were to materialize? I'm always intrigued by unsolved serial killings......notice my avatar. 'In Search Of' did a segment a while back when that show was running. (On Jack-the-Ripper)

'In Search Of' did a segment a while back when that show was running. (On Jack-the-Ripper)

Thank you! When someone mentioned Jack the Ripper a few days ago, I could have sworn UM did a segment, but I guess I was actually thinking of "In Search Of...." Okay, I can move on with my life.

Thank you! When someone mentioned Jack the Ripper a few days ago, I could have sworn UM did a segment, but I guess I was actually thinking of "In Search Of...." Okay, I can move on with my life.

No problem......anytime! ;)

I don't see why this show wouldn't come back and do really well on network tv, with seriously all the crap they are putting on tv now, I don't even watch network tv, let alone most any other channels. I think that they may be realizing reality tv is finally going to die and they need some different programming. It would be amazing if unsolved mysteries came back...as someone i think said, this show could literally go on forever, because it is about unsolved mysteries, and those happen everyday. I think that with AMW still on the air, Unsolved mysteries definitely stands a chance to come back.

I don't see why this show wouldn't come back and do really well on network tv, with seriously all the crap they are putting on tv now, I don't even watch network tv, let alone most any other channels.

I don't blame you at all. It seems to me that we are living in a time where money and ratings are far more important than the general quality of TV programming. And I think that's one of the main reasons why many people stopped watching primetime years ago. But just because there's a lot of "crap" on TV doesn't mean I have given up the boob tube myself. The measure of giving up on TV would be nothing short of extreme.

I think that they may be realizing reality tv is finally going to die and they need some different programming.

I'd say that some of the reality programms of today (such as any shows that involve trading spouses or families) are just fads that will die down in the near future. The powers-that-be we're just desperate for very high ratings, so they're willing to go as far as shoving certain programs down our throats. It's almost as if quality programming in general has become socially irrelevant.

But this isn't an isolated incident. In fact, it reminds of the early 1990s when hard rock/heavy metal music entered a commercial slump, as the alternative/grunge rock scene exploded. This has caused many people to be negative about the future of metal music, believing that the genre was dead. But as time would prove, the genre was far from dead; it was simply going through a cycle where it didn't seem to be relevant (commercially, socially, or generally), but the genre gradually rebounded.

So let's pray that quality TV programming becomes more relevant again.

I hope one day this show can come back. It would be great if it aired in Australia but if not i'd download it.

-Ben

Well, this is a bit of an old one as Sam Cooke died in 1964, but could be a good one to profile nonetheless. Sam Cooke was a popular r&b singer in the early 60's (top 10 hits included "Another Saturday Night"), when he was gunned down by a female motel manager under mysterious circumstances. Sounds interesting.

here's Cooke's wikipedia profile, which discusses his death:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Cooke