View Full Version : Did "The Cosby Show" kill "The Jeffersons"?
Magic 09-09-2006, 03:23 PM i must really have a great mind for old school TV *LOL*
The Jeffersons' ratings for 1983-1984 were still respectable - #19 for the season. Apparently, that was enough for them to be on the fall schedule the following season, their 11th.
then The Cosby Show premieres September 30, 1984 and though the two shows did not go head-to-head, i have to wonder if seeing a new kind of black family made people decide they were tired of the same old thing on CBS and subsequently grew on the upper-middle class, dual income Huxtables.
what do you all think? if not for "Cosby" do you think The Jeffersons would've still had the good ratings it had the year before? and if so how long would it have continued?
i personally think they would've wrapped up the show after 1986-1987.
Ireneparalegal 09-09-2006, 03:24 PM The Jeffersons had their run, their moment on t.v. it was time to move on outta there.
Mr. Television 09-09-2006, 03:28 PM The Jeffersons were getting old by the 11th season. Most sitcoms don't even last that long. I still watched the show when the season began but then CBS moved it to Tuesdays opposite The A-Team and I stopped. I think The A-Team is what really killed The Jeffersons although I doubt it would have last more then a year longer anyway.
mstewart 09-09-2006, 03:32 PM The show ran its course. It ran four seasons too long. When it became whitewashed the show got uninteresting. The Jeffersons had a tired and stale look in the 11th season and it was amazing that no one wanted the plug pulled and go out on top. The Jeffersons shot itself in the foot.
Magic 09-09-2006, 03:36 PM The Jeffersons were getting old by the 11th season. Most sitcoms don't even last that long. I still watched the show when the season began but then CBS moved it to Tuesdays opposite The A-Team and I stopped. I think The A-Team is what really killed The Jeffersons although I doubt it would have last more then a year longer anyway.
what in the hell was CBS thinking?
Magic 09-09-2006, 03:38 PM The show ran its course. It ran four seasons too long. When it became whitewashed the show got uninteresting. The Jeffersons had a tired and stale look in the 11th season and it was amazing that no one wanted the plug pulled and go out on top. The Jeffersons shot itself in the foot.
i have read threads where the consensus was that the show should have gone off the air after 1981-1982. however i am curious as to how the ratings stayed decent for '82-83 and '83-'84, though the show's quality had declined.
Mr. Television 09-09-2006, 03:39 PM what in the hell was CBS thinking?
I think CBS wanted to burn the show off. They paired it with Alice and that show ended as well although at least Alice was smart enough to tape a final episode.
Magic 09-09-2006, 03:42 PM I think CBS wanted to burn the show off. They paired it with Alice and that show ended as well although at least Alice was smart enough to tape a final episode.
amazing...i wonder if we'll ever see a "Behind The Camera" on The Jeffersons, despite the lack of cast conflicts.
TVFactFan 09-09-2006, 03:48 PM i must really have a great mind for old school TV *LOL*
The Jeffersons' ratings for 1983-1984 were still respectable - #19 for the season. Apparently, that was enough for them to be on the fall schedule the following season, their 11th.
then The Cosby Show premieres September 30, 1984 and though the two shows did not go head-to-head, i have to wonder if seeing a new kind of black family made people decide they were tired of the same old thing on CBS and subsequently grew on the upper-middle class, dual income Huxtables.
what do you all think? if not for "Cosby" do you think The Jeffersons would've still had the good ratings it had the year before? and if so how long would it have continued?
i personally think they would've wrapped up the show after 1986-1987.
The Obvious answer would be NO since both shows aired on Different Nights
TVFactFan 09-09-2006, 03:55 PM i have read threads where the consensus was that the show should have gone off the air after 1981-1982. however i am curious as to how the ratings stayed decent for '82-83 and '83-'84, though the show's quality had declined.
Because the Jeffersons comptition in 82-83 and 83-84 were the NBC and ABC sunday Night movie which wasn't really that popular at the time
Mr. Television 09-09-2006, 04:00 PM Because the Jeffersons comptition in 82-83 and 83-84 were the NBC and ABC sunday Night movie which wasn't really that popular at the time
Yea that is true. If you wanted to watch entertainment shows on Sundays in the early 80's CBS was the network. They had a pretty good lineup too until they decided to go the movie route as well.
TVFactFan 09-09-2006, 04:18 PM Yea that is true. If you wanted to watch entertainment shows on Sundays in the early 80's CBS was the network. They had a pretty good lineup too until they decided to go the movie route as well.
Yup they took that route in 86-lol
88survivor 09-10-2006, 03:10 AM Another theory I have is the decade(the conservative 80s)...
The 80s were the decade where brand new shows like the A Team, Knight Rider, Magnum, P.I, and all those crime drama shows a lot of kids watched during the time. It was also the materialistic decade, Iran-Contra scandal, the coke era, Reaganomics, the scarred AIDS epidemic, and much more. The Jeffersons were in a 70s era based show at one point. Racial issues and others were the Norman Lear touches in most of his popular shows, but when the 80s came, it was time slide away from the issue and update the show with a more 80s family based team. Fat jokes are in. No more "Honky" jokes, please, etc. Let us watered down the character a notch or two, making them much tamer than before. Let's do mean ol' George's attitude a complete 180 degree angle for no one to notice and make him a friend with his enemy/neighbor Tom. We want no racial jokes, says the censor of the 80s. Make more fat jokes and no matter how stale the other jokes get, make sure you do complete overhaul with the show as well. That's my take on as to why The Jeffersons changed in the 80s. In my perspective opinion.
TVFactFan 09-10-2006, 10:20 AM Another theory I have is the decade(the conservative 80s)...
The 80s were the decade where brand new shows like the A Team, Knight Rider, Magnum, P.I, and all those crime drama shows a lot of kids watched during the time. It was also the materialistic decade, Iran-Contra scandal, the coke era, Reaganomics, the scarred AIDS epidemic, and much more. The Jeffersons were in a 70s era based show at one point. Racial issues and others were the Norman Lear touches in most of his popular shows, but when the 80s came, it was time slide away from the issue and update the show with a more 80s family based team. Fat jokes are in. No more "Honky" jokes, please, etc. Let us watered down the character a notch or two, making them much tamer than before. Let's do mean ol' George's attitude a complete 180 degree angle for no one to notice and make him a friend with his enemy/neighbor Tom. We want no racial jokes, says the censor of the 80s. Make more fat jokes and no matter how stale the other jokes get, make sure you do complete overhaul with the show as well. That's my take on as to why The Jeffersons changed in the 80s. In my perspective opinion.
George was calling Tom Fat in the 1976-77 season too
88survivor 09-10-2006, 11:09 AM Sorry. My bad. Sorry about that.
TVFactFan 09-10-2006, 11:30 AM Sorry. My bad. Sorry about that.
And that was one of those insults that I never understoo from George because I never considered Tom to be FAT just chubby. Fatso was the wrong insult for the Tom Willis character. Fatso was more suited for a TV character like Rerun on What's Happening because he was more round.
Janice 09-10-2006, 01:15 PM Sorry. My bad. Sorry about that.
Since you were so quick (and wrong) to lay blame on the conservative 80s era and Reagan, I guess we can expect a post from you, correcting the record and blaming the pathetic Carter administration.
And I see you're a fan of racial jokes. How very enlightened of you.
88survivor 09-10-2006, 06:46 PM Not true! I am not favor of that, it is just that which shows that go on for so long, they begin to decay as the years go by. I mean, 11 seasons for Jeffersons. I wouldn't know about the Carter administration at all. I wasn't born yet. I was born in 1983.....Star Wars era, Reagan, you name it. I especially like to point out that even that jamesanthony couldn't have said better than I do:
The 80s were a more conservative era which is why they moved away from race issues. I noticed that after Reagan came into office in 1981 this show began to move away from race issues. There's an episode in year 8 where Louise and Helen consider quitting the Help Center and they actually say that since Reagan took over the social service agencies have been suffering. That episode has Lynne Moody in it as a hooker who looks down on Louise and Helen and truthfully the two of them are very out of place in a bar in a poor neighborhood (what on earth were they thinking anyway?) The characters did get more watered down by the 80s, but the actors were some of the best working in situation comedies at that time so the show kept on going and going and had CBS not moved it I think it would have ran a couple seasons more.
In his few appearances in seasons 7 and 8 Mike Evans still brought some soul to the show (and to a lesser extent in his last 2 episodes), but once he was gone except for an appearance by someone like Garrett Morris or an occasional episode written around Florence this show could have just as easily been about white people
peachysquirt21 09-11-2006, 12:17 AM I guess it was time for the show to come to a end. However they should have been allowed to have a final episode. I think it was BS that they didnt get to do that.
mimi75042 09-12-2006, 06:11 PM I like the Jefferson's better than the Cosby show any day.. I didn't too much care for that show.. Living Single was a good show also.
ethelmaepotter 09-26-2006, 02:29 PM I don't think "Cosby Show" had any affect on "The Jeffersons". There have been a handful of sitcoms that have ran eleven seasons. "Married with Children", "M*A*S*H* and "Happy Days" to name a few. ALL of these shows ran to long. If you ask anyone in the industry, the BEST period for a sitcom is the first five seasons or 100 episodes. After that, it is all downhill.
Brent88 09-27-2006, 12:55 AM I like the Jefferson's better than the Cosby show any day.. I didn't too much care for that show.. Living Single was a good show also.
Yeah, for some reason I don't like The Cosby Show, though there are about a dozen episodes I will sit down and actually watch. That seems to be it, though. :crazy:
Anyway, after 11 seasons, I think the show just got old and it was time for it to go. As I watched the Labor Day marathon, there was a noticeable difference even between the episodes in the 4th-6th season, and the episodes in the 9th, 10th, and 11th season. It felt like a completely different show, and not really in a good way. I still thought the episodes were decent and watchable(and there were some better than others), but most were not "great" like they had been.
Brent88 09-27-2006, 12:56 AM I guess it was time for the show to come to a end. However they should have been allowed to have a final episode. I think it was BS that they didnt get to do that.
I totally agree with this.
TVFactFan 09-27-2006, 05:47 PM Yeah, for some reason I don't like The Cosby Show, though there are about a dozen episodes I will sit down and actually watch. That seems to be it, though. :crazy:
Anyway, after 11 seasons, I think the show just got old and it was time for it to go. As I watched the Labor Day marathon, there was a noticeable difference even between the episodes in the 4th-6th season, and the episodes in the 9th, 10th, and 11th season. It felt like a completely different show, and not really in a good way. I still thought the episodes were decent and watchable(and there were some better than others), but most were not "great" like they had been.
What changes did you notice?
mstewart 09-27-2006, 06:44 PM What changes did you notice?
For starters not many shows that was on the verge of cancellation. Look at the ratings:
Nielsen Ratings:
(Top 30 or Better)
#4 in the 1974-1975 Season
#21 in the 1975-1976 Season
#24 in the 1976-1977 Season
#8 in the 1979-1980 Season
#6 in the 1980-1981 Season
#3 in the 1981-1982 Season
#12 in the 1982-1983 Season
#19 in the 1983-1984 Season
#56 in the 1984-1985 Season
In the 77-78 and 78-79 seasons it was on the verge of cancellation but CBS put out a good lineup of comedy on Sunday and that's what saved the show from being cancelled. I think it did good for itself with the way the show moved around a lot the ratings it got and those were its best seasons that it lasted 11 seasons. The last two seasons the show looked tired and the acting was not the same. The only sad thing was that Norman Lear should had pulled the plug after 7 seasons and a series finale should had been done. Yes, too bad that the show stayed on four seasons too long and not a proper closing was giving for the show. No the Cosby Show did not kill the Jeffersons but it did the same thing that the Jeffersons did stayed on the air too long.
TVFactFan 09-27-2006, 06:49 PM For starters not many shows that was on the verge of cancellation. Look at the ratings:
Nielsen Ratings:
(Top 30 or Better)
#4 in the 1974-1975 Season
#21 in the 1975-1976 Season
#24 in the 1976-1977 Season
#8 in the 1979-1980 Season
#6 in the 1980-1981 Season
#3 in the 1981-1982 Season
#12 in the 1982-1983 Season
#19 in the 1983-1984 Season
#56 in the 1984-1985 Season
In the 77-78 and 78-79 seasons it was on the verge of cancellation but CBS put out a good lineup of comedy on Sunday and that's what saved the show from being cancelled. I think it did good for itself with the way the show moved around a lot the ratings it got and those were its best seasons that it lasted 11 seasons. The last two seasons the show looked tired and the acting was not the same. The only sad thing was that Norman Lear should had pulled the plug after 7 seasons and a series finale should had been done. Yes, too bad that the show stayed on four seasons too long and not a proper closing was giving for the show. No the Cosby Show did not kill the Jeffersons but it did the same thing that the Jeffersons did stayed on the air too long.
I'm the one who revealed that the Jeffersons was on the verge of cancellation. That's something I already know
mstewart 09-29-2006, 02:17 PM I'm the one who revealed that the Jeffersons was on the verge of cancellation. That's something I already know
In those two seasons when the show hit its peak and the episodes were entertaining and funny. Unfortunately CBS did not give the show its due respect and kept moving the show constantly in those two seasons.
TVFactFan 09-30-2006, 01:29 PM In those two seasons when the show hit its peak and the episodes were entertaining and funny. Unfortunately CBS did not give the show its due respect and kept moving the show constantly in those two seasons.
What Two seasons?
mstewart 09-30-2006, 03:32 PM What Two seasons?
77-78 and 78-79 seasons.
TVFactFan 09-30-2006, 03:37 PM 77-78 and 78-79 seasons.
How did the show hit its peak in those season? those was the seasons the show fell off
GSU2004 09-30-2006, 06:17 PM i must really have a great mind for old school TV *LOL*
The Jeffersons' ratings for 1983-1984 were still respectable - #19 for the season. Apparently, that was enough for them to be on the fall schedule the following season, their 11th.
then The Cosby Show premieres September 30, 1984 and though the two shows did not go head-to-head, i have to wonder if seeing a new kind of black family made people decide they were tired of the same old thing on CBS and subsequently grew on the upper-middle class, dual income Huxtables.
what do you all think? if not for "Cosby" do you think The Jeffersons would've still had the good ratings it had the year before? and if so how long would it have continued?
i personally think they would've wrapped up the show after 1986-1987.
I think they probably thought they still had some steam left given their ratings for the 1983-1984 season. The producers should have noticed the decline in ratings and should have started creating an end to the series. Marla Gibbs apparently saw the writing on the wall and started pitching 227 to NBC.
GSU2004 09-30-2006, 06:24 PM what in the hell was CBS thinking?
CBS was ready to kill the show but they needed a reason to do it. So they do what networks do best, they place an older show up against a popular newer show and it works everytime.
TVFactFan 09-30-2006, 09:46 PM CBS was ready to kill the show but they needed a reason to do it. So they do what networks do best, they place an older show up against a popular newer show and it works everytime.
Yeah putting the show on Tuesdays was defintely a way to dragged down the ratings
hcollinsmith72 10-05-2006, 10:38 PM i must really have a great mind for old school TV *LOL*
The Jeffersons' ratings for 1983-1984 were still respectable - #19 for the season. Apparently, that was enough for them to be on the fall schedule the following season, their 11th.
then The Cosby Show premieres September 30, 1984 and though the two shows did not go head-to-head, i have to wonder if seeing a new kind of black family made people decide they were tired of the same old thing on CBS and subsequently grew on the upper-middle class, dual income Huxtables.
what do you all think? if not for "Cosby" do you think The Jeffersons would've still had the good ratings it had the year before? and if so how long would it have continued?
i personally think they would've wrapped up the show after 1986-1987.
I don't think it would have lasted much longer, it just ran its time, A show can only be good for so long, and as the times changes so does the audience interests. But it will always be my #1 show
LETTERL 04-05-2007, 03:31 AM 1984-85 was my freshman year in college; unlike in high school, I didn't have time to watch much TV...and made Sunday nite, and "Murder, She Wrote" my preferred TV viewing night before starting another week of college courses. I remember being sad that The Jeffersons were no longer on Sundays, was aware that the program was not doing well against "The A Team" and was disappointed that the show just sort of faded from the network schedule with what seemed very little effort by CBS to save it.
Then again, 11 years was a pretty good run for a sitcom and the show did bring a lot of laughs to my entire family through my high school years; we never missed CBS' Sunday nite lineup through the early 1980s. Now, I'm slowly building up my Jeffersons DVD collection.
lil_weezy 04-05-2007, 04:37 AM i didn't read any of the previous posts so sorry if i repeat something that someone else already said...anyways, i don't see if as the Cosby Show killing the Jeffersons. I see the Jeffersons passing the torch to the Cosby Show to keep the flow of a great show going.
USATVFAN 04-05-2007, 03:22 PM I Agree with you lil Weezy.
plus The Jeffersons Were already Slipping In The Ratings at the start of the 1982-83 season and that when you knew that the show was getting old. by the 83-84 for some reason you could tell that the end was near and the cast were tired.
and the show First 7 years were the best,season 7 i think had it up and downs of good episode then the 81-82 season the show began going stale the writing wasn't as good it use too be. and that the years that the cast sherunk from 10 cast members to 5 castmembers.
by the 84-85(the worst seasons of the entire series)half the episode were dream episdoes or fiction is was as if it was a new show and that when you knew series nearing the end any day now.
to me the writing got worst every season starting from the 81-82 season and on
TVFactFan 04-05-2007, 06:11 PM 1984-85 was my freshman year in college; unlike in high school, I didn't have time to watch much TV...and made Sunday nite, and "Murder, She Wrote" my preferred TV viewing night before starting another week of college courses. I remember being sad that The Jeffersons were no longer on Sundays, was aware that the program was not doing well against "The A Team" and was disappointed that the show just sort of faded from the network schedule with what seemed very little effort by CBS to save it.
Then again, 11 years was a pretty good run for a sitcom and the show did bring a lot of laughs to my entire family through my high school years; we never missed CBS' Sunday nite lineup through the early 1980s. Now, I'm slowly building up my Jeffersons DVD collection.
Did you watch the Jeffersons on Tuesday Night in the last season?
LETTERL 04-06-2007, 02:51 AM Unfortunately, I did not catch any of The Jeffersons during that last season. My roommate was a real study monger and after Jeopardy went off at 8 pm, he always made sure the TV was turned off so we could study. Which is probably a good thing. Based on what I've read in this thread, maybe it's good that I didn't see any of the final season but I would still be curious to see those episodes.
TV Researcher...do u think they'll release all 11 seasons on DVD?
jamesanthony 04-06-2007, 10:43 AM I would say that the first 7 seasons are of a much better caliber than what came after, although this show even at its worst is still watchable and I think its that the actors even as they aged and slowed down a bit and became either more politically correct or cartoonish knew how to play those roles. I don't like year 9 - to me the last 2 seasons are better- its like it took them a little while to figure out how to make the most of what the show was in the 80s. I wonder if the last season will make it to DVD? The last season shows that I enjoyed the most are Sayonara, Ebony and Ivory, State of Mind, The Gang's All Here, That Blasted Cunnungham and The Odd Couple. I've never seen Last Dance, but it seems like it was a good episode for Florence.The final episode- Off Off Broadway - is horrid and the two before it Truth Hurts and Red Robbins) are pretty weak as well as is the Atlantic City episode.
USATVFAN 04-06-2007, 11:36 AM i can handle the last 2 seasons but they are not my favorate seasons. i have every episode from the last 2 seasons on vhs.
even so season 1 is one of the best season, i think the show was at it best from season 2-8
TVFactFan 04-06-2007, 02:17 PM Unfortunately, I did not catch any of The Jeffersons during that last season. My roommate was a real study monger and after Jeopardy went off at 8 pm, he always made sure the TV was turned off so we could study. Which is probably a good thing. Based on what I've read in this thread, maybe it's good that I didn't see any of the final season but I would still be curious to see those episodes.
TV Researcher...do u think they'll release all 11 seasons on DVD?
I hope so, Depending on well season 6 sells. I'm not thinking about season 11 right now, just season 7 being released before 2008
jamesanthony 04-09-2007, 08:46 AM I hope so, Depending on well season 6 sells. I'm not thinking about season 11 right now, just season 7 being released before 2008
It'll be interesting to see how they release season 7 since the last 4 shows produced for that year were shown in season 8- if they release it as aired there would only be 20 episodes and they'd probably charge the same 29.99 price- it cracks me up how they retail dvds with 13 episodes and dvds with 26 shows for the same price.
TVFactFan 04-09-2007, 06:08 PM It'll be interesting to see how they release season 7 since the last 4 shows produced for that year were shown in season 8- if they release it as aired there would only be 20 episodes and they'd probably charge the same 29.99 price- it cracks me up how they retail dvds with 13 episodes and dvds with 26 shows for the same price.
If they go production order then it should be 24
mstewart 04-12-2007, 09:01 AM Look at it as this. The show ran its course. The show was tired and it was stale after season 7. They should had pulled the plug during season 6 when it was it was at its peak. The energy of the show after season 7 was not the same and I do not like watching after that season. So no The Cosby Show did not kill the Jeffersons. Their time was up.
Scoobiedoo30 04-12-2007, 02:42 PM I dont understand how could The Cosby Kill The Jeffersons
USATVFAN 04-12-2007, 06:55 PM I dont understand how could The Cosby Kill The Jeffersons
the cosby Show did not kill The Jeffersons.
But The Simpsons Killed The Cosby show
ThomasE 04-15-2007, 02:44 PM How did the show hit its peak in those season? those was the seasons the show fell off
For me, that show was not all that during 78-79. I think that the show ran for as long as it did was due to people watching it at that time. It did not matter if the show drastically changed. The thing is that people watched.
Years later when we view these shows in retrospect, we notice the difference and decide what the quality of the seasons are and notice the difference in the continuity. We can look back and see what we liked and what we did not like.
The show ran its course. It ran four seasons too long. When it became whitewashed the show got uninteresting. The Jeffersons had a tired and stale look in the 11th season and it was amazing that no one wanted the plug pulled and go out on top. The Jeffersons shot itself in the foot.
https://web.archive.org/web/20061214120046/http://www.jumptheshark.com/j/jeffersons.htm
Back in the day when the Jeffersons premiered, and in the first few seasons...it was RAW, EDGY, and FUNNY like any other Norman Lear sitcom. George's bigoted insults towards Tom and Helen Willis, Louise's battles with the harpy Mother Jefferson, and all-around social commentary was HILARIOUS!!!!!! But then, the show started to go soft when the bigoted insults were reduced, Mother Jefferson died, and a heavy dose of PC turned the Jeffersons into just another lightweight sitcom.
I thought that The Jeffersons was the best spinoff ever produced by Norman Lear. But it has jumped quite a few sharks. #1-WHITEWASHING: When the show started in 1975, it was very much like ALL IN THE FAMILY with its raw edgineess and sharp humor. George and Louise may have moved on up out of the ghetto, but their heads did not. The show was very keen on its' racial identity early on. But by the time the 1981-82 season ended, THE JEFFERSONS had become completely whitewashed, even though it was the third highest rated show on TV that season (behind DALLAS and 60 MINUTES.) George had become friends with Tom and Bentley and stopped making jokes like "Pin The Tail on the Honky" and "Zebra". And Louise, the sensible, level-headed one, became even more snobbier than George, trying to impress the upper crust NY socialites. #2-THE 2 LIONELS: Why exactly did Mike Evans leave the show? I could somewhat tolerate Damon Evans, but for me-and a lot of others-Mike Evans is the TRUE Lionel Jefferson. #3-MOTHER JEFFERSON'S DEATH: I think the person who said that Zara Cully's death was the best thing that ever happened to the show is cruel. Mother Jefferson provided the show with some of the best one-liners ever used. Not to mention that she was the one thing who could irritate Louise more that George's snobbishness. But deep down, Mama loved and respected Louise. #4-CHECKING IN: Checking In was the ill-fated spinoff in where Florence was managing a hotel with Larry Linville (a.k.a. Frank Burns from M*A*S*H). Giving Florence her own show was a dumb idea. Though I loved the interplay between Linville and Marla Gibbs, she was sorely needed back on THE JEFFERSONS. Who else was going to help Louise keep George in check? #5-NO CLOSING EPISODE: How in the hell did this show not have a closing episode? If MASH, COSBY, and countless others have a closing show, why can't this one have it? It was just as important of a show
The Jeffersons is my all time favorite sitcom made in the US. When it debuted it had sharp and edgy humor but by the 1980s when Embassy Productions took over for Norman Lear, it had turned into one one crappy "comedies" that came from that decade. Louise had become an idiotic and foolish woman and George became friends with Tom and started looking out for Florence. Mother Jefferson was the best. Even at the age of 86, she delivered some of the most hilarious performances ever witnessed on TV. Even though the quality had been diminished, it deserved a final episode.
I can't think of one specific moment on The Jeffersons, but basically the 1980s killed it. It was definitely showing signs of fatigue after the 70s. But one really lame episode that comes to mind is the one where George dreams he dies & god makes him answer to his former mean ways via "Heaven game show". Geez. What were the writers thinking? It's amazing it lasted into '85
TVFactFan 03-15-2015, 01:26 AM The Jeffersons killed the Jeffersons by not planning to end the series by 1982. They could have developed the blueprint on how they will end the series and have it over by 1984 with a finale
waichingliu81 03-28-2015, 08:39 PM the cosby show didn't kill jeffersons, rather the jeffersons lasted 3 more seasons than it should. i think it should have ended after season 8.
TVFactFan 03-28-2015, 10:11 PM The fact that the 1st season of the season of the Cosby show started during the last season of the season of the Jeffersons makes this an extremely stupid question
ThomasE 03-29-2015, 02:51 AM the cosby show didn't kill jeffersons, rather the jeffersons lasted 3 more seasons than it should. i think it should have ended after season 8.
Ironically enough, NAN used to air eps up to the 8th season then would go back to season one. That is what the ep airing rotation was like then the network began to air the last three seasons in the rest of the rotation.
king of comedy 03-29-2015, 07:16 AM The Jeffersons actually beat Cosby because it was more guts than Cosby.
BigManMike 03-29-2015, 08:48 AM Ironically enough, NAN used to air eps up to the 8th season then would go back to season one. That is what the ep airing rotation was like then the network began to air the last three seasons in the rest of the rotation.
Why did they do that? It would have made morse sense just air the series in its entirety.
Now I do recall watching some Season 9 episodes on there back in December 2001
TVFactFan 03-29-2015, 01:01 PM It wasn't until Labor Day of 2006 when TV land aired seasons 9 to 11
The recent episode of Unsung Hollywood on TV One alluded that the decision to air reruns in syndication when first-run episodes were still being produced for CBS also hurt. Now a days, this isn't such a big deal, but back in the late 1970s-early '80s, it was still kind of confusing for viewers.
SitcomsHeydayfan 04-29-2018, 11:25 AM If the Jeffersons came back for season 12 Lionel was supposed to move back in with George & Louise after his divorce with Jenny. That would have made for some good storylines! I'm sure they would've have some interesting guest stars of maybe introduced a new character.I
Only the CBS brass would know if the Cosby show made a difference but I doubt it. The Jeffersons should've gotten a 12th season so they could've gotten a series finale!
Mr. Television 04-29-2018, 04:05 PM The A-Team killed the Jeffersons.
SitcomsHeydayfan 04-29-2018, 07:37 PM I don't agree AT ALL that the Jeffersons become whitewashed. Shows & characters can evolve & that's what happened here. Don't forget Sherman Hemsley went to producers & told them he's sick & tired of calling Tom a honkey so they stopped doing it. So it can't be a whitewash if it's a black guy's idea! :lol:
SitcomsHeydayfan 04-29-2018, 07:47 PM Look at it as this. The show ran its course. The show was tired and it was stale after season 7. They should had pulled the plug during season 6 when it was it was at its peak. The energy of the show after season 7 was not the same and I do not like watching after that season. So no The Cosby Show did not kill the Jeffersons. Their time was up.
NO WAY! Clearly you must have forgotten because there were tons of great episodes after season 6. There were many great episodes in seasons 9, 10, & 11 however you can say not as many as earlier seasons but that happens with many shows. The later years often aren't as good anymore with many shows. Dramas too. Look at the garbage Dallas turned into in its later years!
Mission Incredible parts 1,2, & 3, Honeymoon Hotel, The List, Blood & Money, & a Date with Danger are just a few examples of some FANTASTIC episodes from seasons 9, 10, & 11 that are WAY better than ANY sitcom today! I'm not a fan of today's sitcoms at all.
afijamesy2k 06-23-2019, 06:07 PM I guess it was time for the show to come to a end. However they should have been allowed to have a final episode. I think it was BS that they didnt get to do that.
sherman hemsley read in the newspaper, Isabel sanford heard about it from her cousin from new york and franklin cover heard about it on entertainment tonight, such a sad shame.
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