Here is the thread that actual starts on page 12 of the "Brady Bunch scenes/episodes no longer aired thread." Scroll down to where it says, "I Now Own The Season 1 DVD!" Most of the subsequent threads after page 12 that were done try to go in order season by season of all of the restored cuts. The list is believed to be accurate, but is not guarenteed because it is often difficult to remember exactly what was cut or added back in. Admins/Mods may want to stickey this thread:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=29690&page=12

Jack

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DELETED SCENE ON BB A CAMPING WE WILL GO

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Hey i have a question on the episodes of the brady bunch on the dvd a camping we will go what are some of the deleted scenes that are on the dvd which are not shown in syndication

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DELETED SCENE ON BB A CAMPING WE WILL GO

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Hey i have a question on the episodes of the brady bunch on the dvd a camping we will go what are some of the deleted scenes that are on the dvd which are not shown in syndication

Damn,

I don't have that in there. This is what I recall from memory:

A Camping We Will Go: A large cut scene where all the kids and adults run to the bathroom before leaving. This is often cut altogether or shortened on all prints. More outdoor scenes of the family driving along the road. I also seem to recall a couple more complaints from the boys about having the girls along before they leave, as well as a longer getting ready to go in the car sequence. (Feel free to add or correct)

Jack

hey jack you are the man when it comes to brady bunch deleted scenes break downs, there is one episode that i wanted to asked you that i was watching the other day, and maybe you can help with the deleted scenes that are not shown in syndication, there is a episode where marcia is running againts greg i think it was for school president could you tell me what are some of the deleted scenes from that episodes that are not shown in syndication thanks

hey jack you are the man when it comes to brady bunch deleted scenes break downs, there is one episode that i wanted to asked you that i was watching the other day, and maybe you can help with the deleted scenes that are not shown in syndication, there is a episode where marcia is running againts greg i think it was for school president could you tell me what are some of the deleted scenes from that episodes that are not shown in syndication thanks

Thanks Studd!

I'll have to rewatch that one to refresh my memory. "Vote For Brady." Most of my Brady Bunch memories come from TV Land for the last several years. Do you have cable and watch the TV Land versions? The cuts are different than the syndicated prints! We have a local TV station that just started showing Brady Bunch again so I have been comparing the TV Land, and syndicated showings to the uncut DVD's! It's pretty cool, on the DVD's. On average you get about 3 minutes of footage that you can't see anywhere else! Sometimes the episode will be sped-up through time compression where their are very little edits. Other times, you will see whole scenes cut out. Be sure to check out my episode list in the Scenes no Longer Aired Thread! (Starts near the bottom of page 12.) But I don't have comparisons for ALL episodes. A lot of them I do though!

Jack

hey jack i remember the episode that i wanted to asked you about, on the dvd what are some of the deleted scenes in the episode titled ever boy does it once when bobby decides to runaway from home, that was the episode that i wanted to asked you about

hey jack i remember the episode that i wanted to asked you about, on the dvd what are some of the deleted scenes in the episode titled ever boy does it once when bobby decides to runaway from home, that was the episode that i wanted to asked you about

"Every Boy Does it Once": An outstanding scene that you can't see anywhere else with Bobby talking to Mike in the den and Mike trying to assuring him that everyone loves him. It's very moving. Mike is fixing a doll cradle for Cindy when Bobby comes in to talk to him.

Jack

Yes, that episode "Every boy does it Once" always gets to me. I get all choked up near the end where Carol is all packed and ready to go on the road with Bobby. That dialogue and the music gets to me.

Just like in "Father of the Year" when Mike finds out Marcia entered him for Father of The Year.

wow jack you sure do no your brady bunch episodes original deleted scenes i should run out and by the whole dvd collection, here is one episode that i wanted to asked you about, i do not no exactly what the title of this episode
is but what are some of the deleted scenes in the episodes where everybody wants to use the phone that mike put into the house it was something like a pay phone.

wow jack you sure do no your brady bunch episodes original deleted scenes i should run out and by the whole dvd collection, here is one episode that i wanted to asked you about, i do not no exactly what the title of this episode
is but what are some of the deleted scenes in the episodes where everybody wants to use the phone that mike put into the house it was something like a pay phone.

"Sorry Right Number": A couple of scenes removed from the syndicated print with more of the kids making calls. Peter helping a friend of his with Math homework using the phone in Mike's Den. (This is restored on TV Land.) A couple of lines restored with Alice talking to Sam at the butcher shop about the phone problem at the house (cut in syndication.) TV Land does cut out a scene that syndicate leaves in with Mike pacing back and forth in the master bedroom telling Carol about the phone problem. The only scene that you can't see anywhere else except on the DVD is Mike goes to his den to make a call dials a number and gets a busy signal.

Some cuts are very sutle and in some cases whole scenes are cut when you do TV Land or syndicated edit comparisions. Studd, you should get the WHOLE Brady Bunch DVD set! The episodes are complete except:

1.) 15 seconds or so missing from the Hawaii episode "Pass The Tabu"

2.) The fill in-squares missing on all of the vacation episodes, "Greg Gets Grounded, and "Love and the Older Man."

Otherwise the series is complete running on average 25 minutes per episode. In many cases, 16mm/35mm back up prints were needed to restore the shows to full length. This is because when Paramount sold The Brady Bunch to full syndication after it's March 1974 end first run, they foolishly took out about a minute of footage from the video master tapes per episode. Over the years, local stations did their own edits each time the show went into distribution. When TV Land bought the rights to The Brady Bunch in the Summer of 1998, Paramount sent them the uncut tapes and TV Land did their own edits to fit a 22 minute time slot. I heard that when TV Land first came out in fall of 1996, that they showed their stuff uncut for about a year! Unfortunately, The Brady Bunch was not in their line-up at that time By fall, of 1997, most of their classic Retromercials (classic commercials) were replaced with regular commercials and cuts began on their programs.

There are HUGE scenes restored on the DVD that you can't see anywhere else, especially on "The Show Must Go On?", "The Great Earing Caper" and "Cincinnatti Kids." (Amusement Park episode) I don't want to give them away! LOL! If you want to know about them, start reading from page 12 onward of our "Brady Bunch Scene/Episode no longer aired thread!"

Get this set Studd! With the exception of the back up 16mm print scenes, that don't exist in other versions and what I mention above, it is complete and uncut. Color and clarity is excellent, and you'll be blown away with the great quality compared to how the episodes look in Syndication/TV Land.

Jack

Jack -

What would we do without you. Thanks for the info!

Hey jack you are the man when it comes to BB uncut episodes, i wish you new some episodes cut from happy days, hey i wanted to no in the brady bunch episode where marcia gets hit in the nose with the football what are some of the deleted scenes that you remember in that episode

What about the episode, 'The Horoscope'? Was there any scenes deleted or lines left out?

"The Subject Was Noses": Has longer bedroom painting scenes. Check the URL link earlier in this thread for more details. Not sure about "Mike's Horrorscope."

Jack

PS. Stud, let us know when you start getting Brady Bunch DVD's! You can pick up each season for about $25 or so at most places. Some people said that the sets are going on E-bay and stuff for about $20.

hey jack i am going to buy the dvd sets, i am so sorry that i kept on asking you question about bb dvd but when you started breaking down all of the original deleted scenes that was not shown in syndication i had to ask you, i do not have the money right now but i will get season by seasons, i have to asked you this question on the episode hat they show every holiday, what are some deleted scenes in the voice for christmas and the episode where i think it was bobby or peter talking with those ailens or little people from space thanks you are the man and i will let you no when i have all of the episodes, i wish that as a bonus extra they could have had the brady kids saturday morning cartoon show

hey jack i am going to buy the dvd sets, i am so sorry that i kept on asking you question about bb dvd but when you started breaking down all of the original deleted scenes that was not shown in syndication i had to ask you, i do not have the money right now but i will get season by seasons, i have to asked you this question on the episode hat they show every holiday, what are some deleted scenes in the voice for christmas and the episode where i think it was bobby or peter talking with those ailens or little people from space thanks you are the man and i will let you no when i have all of the episodes, i wish that as a bonus extra they could have had the brady kids saturday morning cartoon show

Hi Stud,

"Voice of Chistmas seems to have very little edited. (More time compressed) I haven't seen the syndicated version for a LONG time cuz it is ONLY shown around Christmas time. I do know that TV Land cuts out a scene with the kids listening to Christmas radio music. (The boys in their bedroom) and someone said that there is a scene where the announcer talks about "We've spotted Santa Clause over____________" Greg kind of rolls his eyes. That scene is no longer on TV Land. It might be in syndication though.

"Out of This World" (The UFO One!): The DVD has more footage with Bobby and Peter talking to Jim McDevitt at the talk show they visit. (In real life, McDevitt WAS a real astronaut on one of the Apollo missions.) There is also an additional scene of the kids at breakfast and Peter and Bobby talking about seeing the UFO. None of the other kids believe them.

What you MISS in syndication is Greg telling how he got his lip cut. ("I cut myself shaving.") In reality, he was in a car accident a few days after they rehersed this episode. (around Thanksgiving, 1973) TV Land shortens Bobby's "Dream Sequence" with the Kaplutians.

Trivia Tip for OUT OF THIS WORLD: During the first run and for several syndication cycles thereafrer, The Brady Bunch ran a promo for Out of This World that showed Mcdevvitt, and some of the Brady's along with the Kaplutions! He said: "Hi, I'm Jim McDevitt, you may remember me on one of the Apollo missions. Join me next week on The Brady Bunch when I'll be with the Brady's.....and some space creatures! (Than the Kaplutions come in for the camera.)

Trivia Tip For WELCOME ABOARD: Also during the first run and several syndication cycles, Welcome Aboard, (Cousin Oliver Moves in) had Carol doing a voice over:

"Don't miss next week's show when I have a big suprise for Mike."

(Than they show the scene where Mike comes home and Carol says, "I found out we're gonna have an addition to the family.:

Mike: "Where gonna have a what?"

Carol: "Well six kids plus one kid, equals seven kids!"

(Fade out, end credits)

Jack

jack i love asking you questions about bb you really must be a fan, hey i have a question that just hit my mind what are the deleted scenes in these episodes where bobby dreams of meeting jesse james, and when greg meets his baseball idol don drysdell

jack i love asking you questions about bb you really must be a fan, hey i have a question that just hit my mind what are the deleted scenes in these episodes where bobby dreams of meeting jesse james, and when greg meets his baseball idol don drysdell

Great Episodes!

Bobby's Hero: Remember in the beginning before the school calls? Mike is rehersing notes for his speech, "The Use of Anchient Architecure in Modern Buildings? Well the DVD (and only the DVD) has a scene where he tries an opening joke for the beginning of his speech when the familiy is in the kitchen getting reading to carry food into the dining room. The joke falls flat.

The next scene is at the table where the family is trying to suggest more appropriate heros for Bobby to follow. This is still everywhere, but TV Land cuts out Bobby's line that he has no chance of being Black like Wilt Chamberlin.

Then there is another scene where the girls are looking for Mike's speech in the trashcans (whoever finds it gets $1.00) Bobby comes up to them as Jessie James. The girls tell him to get lost, Bobby says, "OK, I'll just find a different bank to rob."

The Drop Out: More dialogue with Mike and Carol telling Greg about hitting the books after they find out he didn't turn in his history assignment. Greg mocking a big league ball player in the garage...."Now pitching for the Dodgers, Lefty Brady!" Peter and Bobby come up to him and Peter says, "Um Greg, you're right handed." Then they get into a small fight when Greg says Drysdale told him he will be a big leage player. Peter and Bobby say, "I heard him say MIGHT!" Greg says, "No he said WOULD!" "Just for that, no free passes when I'm pitching in the World Series." TV Land cuts out Mike telling Greg what's the biggest bonus a ball player ever got. Mike tells him how much the Angles paid a guy. (Still in syndication.)

ALL VERSIONS CUT OUT AN EXTENDED SCENE BEFORE GREG LEAVES FOR THE GAME HE GIVES MARCIA AND CINDY HIS AUTOGRAPH AFTER FINISHING HIS ENGERY DRINK. There are allso more extended shots of the ball game scenes.

Jack

jack thank you so much i really have to run out and buy the dvds i hope that i am not wearing you out with these questions you really do no your bb stuff i wish you new allot of scenes from happy days jack i must ask you this episode that i no that you are quite formilar with what are some of the deleted scenes where jan and the brady kids wanted to get there parents that silver platter for ther anniversy and they performed on this show, i think they appeared on there three times any way what where some of the deleted scenes that you remembered

jack thank you so much i really have to run out and buy the dvds i hope that i am not wearing you out with these questions you really do no your bb stuff i wish you new allot of scenes from happy days jack i must ask you this episode that i no that you are quite formilar with what are some of the deleted scenes where jan and the brady kids wanted to get there parents that silver platter for ther anniversy and they performed on this show, i think they appeared on there three times any way what where some of the deleted scenes that you remembered

"Amaetur Night": (a.k.a Silver Platters) A scene on the DVD of Carol showing Jan her needlepoint. A scene where "Alfred" (Alfie") calls and Jan pretends like she is talking to a date cuz her parents are in the room. (TV Land has this, syndication does not.)

Stud: Have you checked out the "Brady Bunch Scenes and Episodes No Longer Aired? Please find it and go to about the middle of page 12. I complied a list of MANY DVD restorations! It's easier than doing it this way, cuz I have to recall a lot of this from memory (what I am doing for you.) due to time constraints. Let me know what you think of the list!!!!

Jack

hey jack i am going to get the dvds of bb soon but i have a question to asked i do not no exactly what these episodes are but there is an episode where peter plays himself you no see double, and there is another episode where he thinks he is sherlock homes trying to solves mysteries, and there is another where he was recording everyone conversion n that tape recorder that he had, what where some of the deleted scenes from those episodes that was cut

hey jack i am going to get the dvds of bb soon but i have a question to asked i do not no exactly what these episodes are but there is an episode where peter plays himself you no see double, and there is another episode where he thinks he is sherlock homes trying to solves mysteries, and there is another where he was recording everyone conversion n that tape recorder that he had, what where some of the deleted scenes from those episodes that was cut

Studd,

That is COOL! Let me know when you start getting them. "Two Pete's in a Pod" is the one where Peter also plays his lookalide friend Arthur. "Great Earing Caper" is the one where Peter and Cindy play detectives to locate Carol's missing earings. (A great scene on the DVD that you can't see anywhere else is included!) If you wanna see it it's about, it's on the Season 4 DVD OR you can read about it by scrolling through the Brady Bunch Scenes No Longer Aired Thread! I don't like to give that scene away, cuz it has to be SEEN to be believed! hahaha "The Private Ear": Has a scene where Peter tries to convince Mike that he needs a new typewriter when he hints about his surprise party. (Cut on all versions except the DVD.) TV Land cuts out where Peter says he needs some new records. (Not sure if this is in syndication or not.) All these episodes however are in the Brady Bunch Scenes no Longer Aired Thread under DVD restorations. We can talk about Season 1 when you get it on DVD! Favorite episodes from Season 1 are "Sorry Right Number" (Pay Phone), "Vote For Brady" (Greg and Marcia compete for student body President.), "54-40 and Fight" (Checker Trading Stamps House of Cards Game!" and "The Hero." (Peter saves the girl from the falling shelf at the toy store."

Jack

Studd,

This at your request are the scenes comparisons from TV Land's and syndication editions of "The Hustler" (a.k.a The Pool Table) episode:

All can be found on the DVD:

The Hustler: An extended scene of Greg and Peter playing pool. Greg telling Mike and Carol that Bobby's playing pool late at night. (Cut by TV Land, restord in syndication) Carol telling Mike the pool table stays in the car port or she goes to her Mother's. Mike says, "That's tempting." (Cut in Syndication, restored by TV Land) Slightly longer pool game sequences. Line of Mike saying that Mr. Mathews could beat him using an umbrella as a pool cue....open." (Cut by TV Land, restored in syndication.) Bobby telling how good he is to Greg and Peter "I used to play at Steve's house all the time." (Cut by Syndication, Restored by TV Land.)

Jack

hey jack whats up, hey i am so mad i went to walmart today to find the first complete season of the brady bunch on dvd and they did not have it, i live down here in valdosta ga and they do not have it that sucks but i have two questions to asked you since i could not find the dvd at walmart i might have to try bestbuy my question on the episodes tiger tiger and where grag and marcia are aruging over who gets the room above the house where greg eventually moved up there what are some of the original delted scenes that are shown on the dvd which are not shown on tv land and other syndicated networks

Is there any scenes deleted or edited from 'Mike's Horrorscope'?

hey jack whats up, hey i am so mad i went to walmart today to find the first complete season of the brady bunch on dvd and they did not have it, i live down here in valdosta ga and they do not have it that sucks but i have two questions to asked you since i could not find the dvd at walmart i might have to try bestbuy my question on the episodes tiger tiger and where grag and marcia are aruging over who gets the room above the house where greg eventually moved up there what are some of the original delted scenes that are shown on the dvd which are not shown on tv land and other syndicated networks

Hi Studd,

What's up?

Maybe you might wanna try ordering your Brady Bunch DVD's online. Have you gone to www.amazon.com and www.bestbuy.com ? Best Buy if you order online always has free shipping. Not sure about the others. You're local Walmart may have been out of stock. But you could probably get it from their main distributers at their website www.walmart.com. If you don't have a credit card or don't like shopping on line any local Best Buy, Target, Sam's Club (a bulk discount store, I am sure has DVD's at discount prices.) should have it. You should be able to get each season for under $30 EASILY! (about $25) which is great! It does suck that the only extras offered are on the Season 1 DVD, (Commentary by the kids on about 3 episodes as an option) and a little feature commentary by Sherwood Schwartz about the series that contains info that most Brady fanatics already know. But it's still cool!

Shoot, I thought I included a post for the deleted scenes from "A Room At the Top" in the "Scenes No Longer Aired" Thread. Let me see if I can find it and post it here for you!

Damn! I don't see it. But the scene with the family cleaning out the attic is longer on the DVD, and there's another scene where Marcia cries to Greg about not getting the room and he tells Peter and Bobby that they need to move his stuff back to "Our Room." Peter says, "Our Room?" (Cuz they just finished moving all his stuff to the attic) and Bobby whispers back to Peter, "He must of banged his head on the rafter!" The last time that I saw this scene was when TBS aired The Brady Bunch in the mid 80's!

TV Land has another scene with Greg telling Peter and Bobby that he plans to move out of their room and into the attic and Pete and Bobby get all excited about finally having the room to themselves. I don't remember seeing this scene in syndication for years.

Jack

hey jack you really no your brady deleted scenes hey you have got to tell me what deleted scenes are they showing in the episodes where greg puts on a play about thanksgiving i remember petter and bobby where in indian customs

hey jack you really no your brady deleted scenes hey you have got to tell me what deleted scenes are they showing in the episodes where greg puts on a play about thanksgiving i remember petter and bobby where in indian customs

Yea Studd!

The Pilgrim Movie one! (One of my favorite episodes!) Called "The Un-Underground Movie." Syndication always takes out a scene where Bobby gets stuck in the stockade! If you have cable, it's been restored by TV Land. I can't remember any other major cuts though.

Hope you are able to get your S1 DVD soon! (and than all the others!)

Jack

Is there any scenes deleted or edited from 'Mike's Horrorscope'?

That's one of my least favorite episodes so I couldn't give a synopsis on that one. I can tell you that ALL versions and episodes of The Brady Bunch on TV come in at under 22 minutes. In some cases, there is more time-compression used by the networks than editing. In other cases, there is more editing used than time compression.

In contrast, The Brady Bunch in it's original uneditied form which, with only a few minor exceptions can be seen on the DVD runs on average of 25 minutes per episode. I have not compared Mike's Horrorscope on DVD to any current TV versions. Another episode that I will NEVER watch even on the DVD is "You're Never Too Old" with Mike and Carol as Grandparents!!!???? UGGHHH! This is not only the worst Brady Bunch episode of all time, it is one of TV sitcoms darkest moments for all time!

Jack

hey jack here is two episodes that i wanted to ask you about and the deleted scenes what are some of the scenes where bobby and peter saves each others lives where they both get mad at each other, and there is another episode where bobby and greg made a bet and greg had to take bobby along with him while he was on his date you do remem these episodes that i am talking about right

hey jack here is two episodes that i wanted to ask you about and the deleted scenes what are some of the scenes where bobby and peter saves each others lives where they both get mad at each other, and there is another episode where bobby and greg made a bet and greg had to take bobby along with him while he was on his date you do remem these episodes that i am talking about right

Hey Studd,

Sup? Did you order or get any Brady Bunch DVD's yet? Good questions!

"My Brother's Keeper" has a scene where Bobby is in the tub getting the green paint off of him that syndication does not show. During this time, the family is downstairs getting ready to eat Alice's Hungarian Goulash, and Peter makes a big long speech about his philosophy of life and how great Bobby is BEFORE Bobby comes downstairs.

The scene with Bobby getting stuck in the closet and banging on the door is shortened on TV Land. TV Land also shortens Peter's phone conversation dialogue.

"The Big Bet" has a scene that has been cut from syndication of Bobby trying to lift a barbell in the backyard that TV Land restores. The same with Alice giving Bobby an energy drink. A scene you can only see on DVD now, is Mike showing Bobby how to do weight training excercises in the backyard.

TV Land cuts out some of the dialogue between Greg, Rachel, and Bobby at the drive-in. and also shortens the scene with Peter and Bobby complaining to Mike and Carol about Greg backing out on his promise to take them to the frog jumping contest.

Jack

hey jack i did not get the chance to order anything i might have to go to best buy, hey i have questions to asked you about the bb deleted scenes you have got to tell me what are some of the deleted where marcia and peter are working at the ice cream place, cindy thinking she is shirley tempel, tiger tiger, and the episodes where jan finally figures out that it was alice who sent her that locket

hey jack i did not get the chance to order anything i might have to go to best buy, hey i have questions to asked you about the bb deleted scenes you have got to tell me what are some of the deleted where marcia and peter are working at the ice cream place, cindy thinking she is shirley tempel, tiger tiger, and the episodes where jan finally figures out that it was alice who sent her that locket

WOW!

That's a long list. That might take me awhile. I'll have to rewatch again. I hate that Shirley Temple episode!!! ARRGGHHH!

So, you might go to Best Buy? That's cool. They have good prices there.

Jack

PS. On the forum somewhere I started a Brady Bunch Episodes/Scenes No Longer aired thread. If you find the thread, than go down to about page 12 inside that thread where I am some others talk about the DVD's you might see some of the answers to those questions in the thread. I did a DVD Restoration List back when I first watched the episodes. I can't remember what was added in on the DVD's off the top of my head for those episodes. But see if I have them in that thread. (It's like 20 pages if I remember!) I start talking about the restored DVD scenes on page 12. (I think.)

Check that out and let me know what you think!

Jack, I'm sending the letter finally to Paramount so that they at least know about the alterations before the HD release...can you please list the changes by season with episode title for me? it will make it easier for them to read. thanks.

Jack, I'm sending the letter finally to Paramount so that they at least know about the alterations before the HD release...can you please list the changes by season with episode title for me? it will make it easier for them to read. thanks.

Hi Eric,

Good to hear from you! I dug up my old letter and cut/pasted the changes here along with some additional info that I added in that was NOT in the original letter:

KNOWN BRADY BUNCH DVD ALTERATIONS

Season 1: "To Move or Not to Move" has low audio on the tag sequence. (You can't hear the house settling creaking noise in the tag.) My DVD has good audio in all other places, but some have reported low audio throughout the episode.

Season 2: "The Dropout": Has a 5 second or so "quck speed glitch" when Greg is lifting weights in the family room.

Season 2: "The Tattletale": Has a 5 second humming sound in the scene where Alice is talking to Cindy in the kitchen while she is mixing batter into a bowl.

Season 3: "The Teeter Totter Caper" comes in at about 24:30, which is about 30 seconds shorter than the other episodes.

Season 3: All of the following 3 part Grand Canyon vacation episodes,

A. "Grand Canyon or Bust"
B. "Ghost Town USA"
C. "The Brady Braves"

are each missing the fill in squares between the last commercial break and the credits.

Season 4: All fill in squares on the Hawaii episodes are omitted between the last commercial break and the credits. There titles are:

A. "Hawaii Bound"
B. "Pass The Tabu"
C. "The Tiki Caves"

Season 4: Part 2 of the Hawaii vacation episode "Pass the Tabu" is missing about 15-20 seconds in the scene with the boys back at the hotel wondering what they should do with the idol. After Mike and Carol leave the room, the boys have a discussion about whether or not they believe in the tabu that lasts for about 15 seconds. This does not show up on the DVD. There is also no "fade to black" as is observed in both TV Land and syndicated versions of the show when Peter is awakended with the spider crawling on him.

Season 4: "Love and the Older Man" omits the fill in squares between the last commerical break and the credits.

Season 4: "Greg Gets Grounded" omits the fill in squares between the last commercial break and the credits. Furthermore, in what looks like a half-hazzard edit job to cover for this mistake, the DVD combines the final scene before the tag sequence and blends it in rather than going to a “fade to black” before the tag scene.

Oh, BTW Eric, can you paste the body of your letter into this post, so we can compare our lists? Thank you!

Jack

hey jack if you get the time do you think you can break down some of the deleted of the episode where marcia and peter are working at the ice maltshop tiger tiger and jan mystery locket and cindy thinking that she is shirley tempel thanks

hey jack if you get the time do you think you can break down some of the deleted of the episode where marcia and peter are working at the ice maltshop tiger tiger and jan mystery locket and cindy thinking that she is shirley tempel thanks

Hi Studd,

Going from memory here cuz of time constraints but in "Marcia Gets Creamed" there are a couple of small added scenes of dialogue between Marcia and her boyfriend Jeff, a couple of added scenes with Mike trying to stick to his new diet in the kitchen as Alice and Carol have some funny one-liners.

"Tiger Tiger": A couple of added scenes of the family out looking for Tiger. I seem to also recall another scene with Carol consoling Bobby in his room when Tiger is missing that is either shortened or cut altogether in syndication/TV Land. There's another scene with Bobby outside waiting for Tiger to come back and Mike comes out seeing that he's not in bed. Bobby worries about Tiger and says he wants to be outside when Tiger comes home. Mike says, He knows how Bobby feels, but that it's cold outside. He mentions robberies in the neighborhood. (Remember the scene of Peter and Greg trying to boobytrap the house with the cans over the door?) Mike says, "If Tiger comes back, we'll have a big celebration in the morning."

"The Super Snooper": All I remember is a couple of scenes of Cindy looking at Marcia's diary when she and Jan are out. I think there is another scene of Greg and Peter watching her trying to find out what she is doing that you can't see on other versions.

"Locket Lost, Locket Found": More scenes of the family "reconstructing the events" the night the locket disappears. Can't remember the specifics though.

Jack

hey jack i love talking to you about the brady bunch but i finally remember a couple of episodes that i would like to asked you with the original deleted scenes that are on the dvd could you please tell me what deleted scenes you remember from the episodes where greg peter and bobby find a wallot with the money in it which casused conflictions, the episode where bobby breaks his log and is afraid to climb the tree you do remeber that episode right, and there is another episode that ran across my mind when carol and cindy both have to have a operation at the hospital thanks

hey jack i almost forgot to mention to you what where some of the deleted scenes in the episodes where peter is performing his magic trick, as well as the scenes where his valcano mess up marcia and her friends cloths, and i think i remember another episode where he thought he was a dr and jan was his assitent nurse peace

hey jack i almost forgot to mention to you what where some of the deleted scenes in the episodes where peter is performing his magic trick, as well as the scenes where his valcano mess up marcia and her friends cloths, and i think i remember another episode where he thought he was a dr and jan was his assitent nurse peace

Hey Stud,

Sup? I remember most of these!

"Lights Out": Has an added scene with Peter doing some magic tricks in the girls room. I think one is with a bananna and the other is with hankercheifs.

"Today I am a Freshman" (i.e volcano episode.) There are more scenes of the kids helping Peter make the volcano, and Greg's running gag, of "Pete, if you get any of that in the patio, Alice will kill you." is said by more of the kids and even Alice herself when she makes the kids get cleaned up before dinner.

Do you have cable/TV Land so that you can see some of the stuff that syndication leaves out? They each have different edits.

But I think that the episode with the biggest restoration of scenes on DVD is Season 5: "Cincinnatti Kids." (Too many to list here.) Regardless of whether you watch that episode on TV Land or syndication, there is I would estimate about four minutes of footage of the family in the park that you can only see on the DVD!

Hope you start getting your DVD Seasons soon! I wonder if like around Christmas time if Best Buy would sell all five seasons for like $100 as a box set? Or even like $85 as a super sale or something. Individual seasons are running at about $25 or less, which is really good. It's too bad that the only extras are on Season 1, but maybe it was good that they did that to keep the prices down.

Jack

hey jack thanks allot i really could use the dvds hey what about the episodes where peter thanks he is a doctor whith jan as his helper

hey jack thanks allot i really could use the dvds hey what about the episodes where peter thanks he is a doctor whith jan as his helper

That one is called "Career Fever" Not too much removed there except for one scene with Greg talking to Cindy in Mike's Den, and he tells her what a difficult time he is having trying to draw something. This is BEFORE he comes up with the idea of deliberatly doing bad drawings to try to convince Mike that he has no interest in architecture.

Interestingly enough, some episodes are more time compressed than edited down regardless of whether you are seeing syndicated versions or TV Land versions. All episodes on TV now (not just Brady Bunch,) but most sitcoms come in at about 22 minutes per episode. Back the the 50's-70's you had sit-coms coming in around 25-26 minutes.

Some Brady Bunch episodes on the TV versions seem to be more time compressed than edited. For example, on TV Land's version of "The Tattletale", I can't find anything missing when comparing it to the uncut DVD. If you however have seen the syndicated print, you miss Cindy tattleing on Greg for ripping his good pants while playing basketball. TV Land restores this scene however. "Kitty-Karry All is Missing" is another episode that seems to be more time compressed with faster talking diallouge and music, but I could not find what had been cut compared to the DVD's. That DOESN'T mean nothing has been cut. It's just that I can't find what has been cut. I are sure that there are a couple of lines snipped here and thee.

Now compare that to "Father of The Year" where HUGE scenes have been cut with Jan and Cindy looking for Marcia, which are greatly shortend on all other versions. (You can only see the full scene on DVD.) Or "The Show Must Go On." with Peter and Bobby selling Family Frolic Night tickets door to door. Or Greg giving Alice a simulated driving test in the kitchen at the begining of "The Wheeler Dealer." Those scenes have not been seen in over 30 years and may not have been see-able since the original primetime run! This is because when Paramount sold The Brady Bunch to syndicated markets in full swing, (The last first run of the show was March 8, 1974) they did their cuts from the original master tapes. But Paramount did summer reruns presumably uncut until Auguest 30, 1974.) They also ran previous season episodes on Saturday mornings during that year.

But by 1975, or whever full syndication went into effect, Paramount stupidly cut about one minute out of each episode from the original master tapes. Following each cycle, they repeated the process. Buy the time the mid 80's were around two minutes of each episode was cut.(approximately.) By the late 80's-90's, they took off another minute of time and for years syndication/TBS had those same edited Brady Bunch episodes with about 3 minutes gone from each one. (or time compressed or both.)

Than TV Land got the rights to The Brady Bunch in Summer of 98. But they needed their versions to have slightly different edits. I head that TV Land does their own edits. So they got the masters from Paramount and did their own edits of the shows. You would think that if you could combine TV Land's version of The Brady Bunch with the syndicated version by combining/putting the edits back in that you would have uncut episodes. But that is still not the case. Pararmount had to go back to restored back up 16mm/35mm prints to get the uncut episodes to DVD. This is why many of the restored scenes look grainy on the DVD. But it was either that or edited DVD episodes!

Jack

hey jack there is one episodes that you have got to tell me what are some of the deleted scenes that are not shown in tv land and that is the episode where bobby is climbing the tree and he hurst his ankles and there is another episode where both carol and cindy go to the hospital to get there toncels out what were some of the deleted scenes in those episodes

hey jack there is one episodes that you have got to tell me what are some of the deleted scenes that are not shown in tv land and that is the episode where bobby is climbing the tree and he hurst his ankles and there is another episode where both carol and cindy go to the hospital to get there toncels out what were some of the deleted scenes in those episodes

"What Goes Up?" (a.k.a Bobby's fear of heights): There's a couple of scenes of Carol bandaging his sprained ankle and the kids all come up to the room and bring him toys and games.

A scene with Mike and Carol talking about getting Bobby a parakeet because he is so bored. (In all other versions, you just see that he gets a parakett,)

Another long ago deleted scene in all versions of Greg on stilts, encouraging Bobby to try them out. (There is even a picture of this scene in Barry Williams, Growing Up Brady book.)

"Coming Out Party" (a.k.a Cindy/Carol get their tonsils out): A begining scene with the boys simulating a boat in the back yard because Alice says she gets seasick on a boat (With buckets and a balance beem.)

Jack

hey jack thank you so much i have one episodes to asked you about, what happens in the episode the spran ankile i think thats when alice hurst herself and her ankle what deleted scenes are in that episode and also some of the deleted scenes where marcia meets desi arneas jr

hey jack thank you so much i have one episodes to asked you about, what happens in the episode the spran ankile i think thats when alice hurst herself and her ankle what deleted scenes are in that episode and also some of the deleted scenes where marcia meets desi arneas jr

Hey Studd,

Sorry for the delay. Those episodes are more time compressed than edited, so you're not missing as much as in some of the others. "The Big Sprain" has a longer scene with Mike telling the kids in the family room about the responsibilities that they will have to share as Alice recovers from her sprained ankle. "The Possible Dream" (i.e Desi Arnez Jr episode) I seem to recall some longer scenes of the family looking for Marica's diary.

Jack

hey jack i like talking to you hey what about the deleted scenes where bobby is climbing the tree falls and hurst his ankle what deleted scenes are they showing in that episodes and also the episodes where both carol and cindy goes to the hospital to have there tonisils taking out

hey jack i like talking to you hey what about the deleted scenes where bobby is climbing the tree falls and hurst his ankle what deleted scenes are they showing in that episodes and also the episodes where both carol and cindy goes to the hospital to have there tonisils taking out

Hi Studd,

You had asked about these episodes before but probably didn't see my response earlier in this thread. For your consideration, I have reposted it here:

"What Goes Up?" (a.k.a Bobby's fear of heights): There's a couple of scenes of Carol bandaging his sprained ankle and the kids all come up to the room and bring him toys and games.

A scene with Mike and Carol talking about getting Bobby a parakeet because he is so bored. (In all other versions, you just see that he gets a parakett,)

Another long ago deleted scene in all versions of Greg on stilts, encouraging Bobby to try them out. (There is even a picture of this scene in Barry Williams, Growing Up Brady book.)

"Coming Out Party" (a.k.a Cindy/Carol get their tonsils out): A begining scene with the boys simulating a boat in the back yard because Alice says she gets seasick on a boat (With buckets and a balance beem.)

Jack

hey jack whats up i hope all is well i have a question that i remember seeing in the brady bunch i do not no the episode title but what are some of the deleted scennes where bobby is not happy with his height and everbody kinds of makes fun of him and i think that bobby is trying all he can to grew taller do you the episode that i am talikng about

Did anyone get to watch the episode, Mike's Horoscope? Is there anything that is added on the DVD but taken out in sydnication?

The episode about Bobby wanting to be taller is called 'Little Big Man'...

hey jack whats up, i have not heard from you in a while i hope all is well, i wanted to asked you about the bb episodes that just ran across my mind and i wanted you to try to tell me the deleted scenes, there is a episode where bobby peter and greg find a wallot with money and bobby is encourging peter and greg to share the money and it causes conflicts between the family, and there is another episode that i wanted to asked where the kids are getting together to fight city hall because they are trying to build a bulding at the park that the kids used to play in, and there is another episode where bobby feels he needs to grow an inch and everybody makes fun of his height, what are some of the deleted scenes that are not shown on tv land but is on the dvd

hey jack whats up, i have not heard from you in a while i hope all is well, i wanted to asked you about the bb episodes that just ran across my mind and i wanted you to try to tell me the deleted scenes, there is a episode where bobby peter and greg find a wallot with money and bobby is encourging peter and greg to share the money and it causes conflicts between the family, and there is another episode that i wanted to asked where the kids are getting together to fight city hall because they are trying to build a bulding at the park that the kids used to play in, and there is another episode where bobby feels he needs to grow an inch and everybody makes fun of his height, what are some of the deleted scenes that are not shown on tv land but is on the dvd

Hey Studd,

Sup? Been busy and sorry for the delay man! I can't remember the additional scenes for "The Treasure of Sierria Avenue" (The Wallet episode) But in "Big Little Man" there is a beginng scene after Bobby almost falls from the ladder when the family comes home and Cindy says, "Bobby almost fell off the house!" Then you see Carol tending to his cuts and stuff." There are also more scenes with Bobby stetching himself from the swingset. In "Double Parked." There is an extended scene with Alice talking to the man that won't sign the petition and another extended scene of Mike and Carol in the master bedroom with her talking about fighting city hall, and Mike talking about his company needing to design the courthouse where Woodland Park is.

Any luck with getting some of the DVD's? They are all out now, which is so cool!

Jack

hey jack whats up hey i wanted to asked you about the deleted scenes from the bb dvd that are not shown on tv land the episodes are confession confession, tattle tale where cindy is telling on everybody and te episodes call me irresponsible thanks again

Hi Eric,

Good to hear from you! I dug up my old letter and cut/pasted the changes here along with some additional info that I added in that was NOT in the original letter:

KNOWN BRADY BUNCH DVD ALTERATIONS

Season 1: "To Move or Not to Move" has low audio on the tag sequence. (You can't hear the house settling creaking noise in the tag.) My DVD has good audio in all other places, but some have reported low audio throughout the episode.

Season 2: "The Dropout": Has a 5 second or so "quck speed glitch" when Greg is lifting weights in the family room.

Season 2: "The Tattletale": Has a 5 second humming sound in the scene where Alice is talking to Cindy in the kitchen while she is mixing batter into a bowl.

Season 3: "The Teeter Totter Caper" comes in at about 24:30, which is about 30 seconds shorter than the other episodes.

Season 3: All of the following 3 part Grand Canyon vacation episodes,

A. "Grand Canyon or Bust"
B. "Ghost Town USA"
C. "The Brady Braves"

are each missing the fill in squares between the last commercial break and the credits.

Season 4: All fill in squares on the Hawaii episodes are omitted between the last commercial break and the credits. There titles are:

A. "Hawaii Bound"
B. "Pass The Tabu"
C. "The Tiki Caves"

Season 4: Part 2 of the Hawaii vacation episode "Pass the Tabu" is missing about 15-20 seconds in the scene with the boys back at the hotel wondering what they should do with the idol. After Mike and Carol leave the room, the boys have a discussion about whether or not they believe in the tabu that lasts for about 15 seconds. This does not show up on the DVD. There is also no "fade to black" as is observed in both TV Land and syndicated versions of the show when Peter is awakended with the spider crawling on him.

Season 4: "Love and the Older Man" omits the fill in squares between the last commerical break and the credits.

Season 4: "Greg Gets Grounded" omits the fill in squares between the last commercial break and the credits. Furthermore, in what looks like a half-hazzard edit job to cover for this mistake, the DVD combines the final scene before the tag sequence and blends it in rather than going to a “fade to black” before the tag scene.


Jack

So according to this information, The Brady Bunch DVD's have uncut episodes with the exception of some minor deletions in a few episodes. The small dialogue sequence missing in Pass The Tabu, for example. Is that correct?

So according to this information, The Brady Bunch DVD's have uncut episodes with the exception of some minor deletions in a few episodes. The small dialogue sequence missing in Pass The Tabu, for example. Is that correct?

Yes,

There is about 15 seconds of dialogue missing from "Pass The Tabu" and all of the vacation episodes lack the fill in squares as well as "Love and the Older Man." "Greg Gets Grounded" also has no fill in squares and that funny "blend in" sequence. However, the episode appears to be uncut. The ONLY known cut other than those squares alterations on the DVD is 15 seconds gone from Pass The Tabu. But it is such a sutle edit, that if you did not know where the edit was from the original print, you would not be able to spot it on the DVD. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT excusing Paramount for this screw up, just making an observation.

The other thing is that when Brady Bunch was first sold to syndication, Paramount foolishly took their first edits from the master tapes. So to get uncut episodes, where they couldn't find the original print negatives, they had to resort to 16mm or 35mm back up print film to get some scenes restored to their full lengths and make the episodes uncut.

On Season 1 of the Brady Bunch DVD's, you'll notice this BIG TIME in "Father of the Year." Season 3 of "The Personality Kid" also has this distinction. Season 5 in "Snow White and the 7 Bradys" and "The Elopment" also use several back up prints. This is the reason for the graininess in some scenes and change in color quality.

Most scenes on the DVD look beautiful. The Vacation episodes, especially Hawaii and the Cincinnati Kids have never looked better. I guess Paramount had no choice but to use those back up prints in a few areas. However, the "Snow White" episode appears as if Paramount took several WHOLE scenes of back up prints for the DVD, rather than using KNOWN existing prints that we have seen still exisitng on TV Land/Syndication. Why they did that is a mystery. The same with "The Elopment."

Don't let the minor scene/edits stop you from purchasing this series! It's the best they could do most likley for a 35+ year old show, and you WILL NOT be disappointed! You'll see scenes that you can't see anywhere else and some that may have not been shown since the first run! Running time averages around 25 minutes per episode on the DVD's. Running time for syndication/TV Land versions averages around 22 minutes per episode. So you are getting about 3 minutes per episode on DVD that is not avaliable anywhere else. PLUS ALL episodes from classic TV are not only edited down from their first-runnings, but also time-compressed with sutle speed ups in dialogue and scenes to accomodate more commercials. You don't get that on any of the DVD's, so everyone who loves this series, get the set on DVD!

Jack

Thanks Jack for all the details on the DVD's. I have ordered The Brady Bunch complete series from movies unlimited, when I receive the package I'll start checking out the episodes. Yes,

There is about 15 seconds of dialogue missing from "Pass The Tabu" and all of the vacation episodes lack the fill in squares as well as "Love and the Older Man." "Greg Gets Grounded" also has no fill in squares and that funny "blend in" sequence. However, the episode appears to be uncut. The ONLY known cut other than those squares alterations on the DVD is 15 seconds gone from Pass The Tabu. But it is such a sutle edit, that if you did not know where the edit was from the original print, you would not be able to spot it on the DVD. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT excusing Paramount for this screw up, just making an observation.

The other thing is that when Brady Bunch was first sold to syndication, Paramount foolishly took their first edits from the master tapes. So to get uncut episodes, where they couldn't find the original print negatives, they had to resort to 16mm or 35mm back up print film to get some scenes restored to their full lengths and make the episodes uncut.

On Season 1 of the Brady Bunch DVD's, you'll notice this BIG TIME in "Father of the Year." Season 3 of "The Personality Kid" also has this distinction. Season 5 in "Snow White and the 7 Bradys" and "The Elopment" also use several back up prints. This is the reason for the graininess in some scenes and change in color quality.

Most scenes on the DVD look beautiful. The Vacation episodes, especially Hawaii and the Cincinnati Kids have never looked better. I guess Paramount had no choice but to use those back up prints in a few areas. However, the "Snow White" episode appears as if Paramount took several WHOLE scenes of back up prints for the DVD, rather than using KNOWN existing prints that we have seen still exisitng on TV Land/Syndication. Why they did that is a mystery. The same with "The Elopment."

Don't let the minor scene/edits stop you from purchasing this series! It's the best they could do most likley for a 35+ year old show, and you WILL NOT be disappointed! You'll see scenes that you can't see anywhere else and some that may have not been shown since the first run! Running time averages around 25 minutes per episode on the DVD's. Running time for syndication/TV Land versions averages around 22 minutes per episode. So you are getting about 3 minutes per episode on DVD that is not avaliable anywhere else. PLUS ALL episodes from classic TV are not only edited down from their first-runnings, but also time-compressed with sutle speed ups in dialogue and scenes to accomodate more commercials. You don't get that on any of the DVD's, so everyone who loves this series, get the set on DVD!

Jack

Thanks Jack for all the details on the DVD's. I have ordered The Brady Bunch complete series from movies unlimited, when I receive the package I'll start checking out the episodes.

You're welcome Lee,

How much was the entire series going for at Movies Unlimited? I was very impressed with the quality of the DVD's. And like I said, what you're getting is the best quality-wise that this show has been able to be preserved.

I've been researching for months trying to find out why the fill in squares were omitted from the vacation episodes. I do know that Paramount did sell The Brady Bunch vacation episodes as "Mini-Movies" to syndication markets around the mid-late 80's. In other words, the 3-part episdoes were spliced together as a 90-minute movie for each of the three part shows. My guess is that the squares were removed for continuity. (I prefer the squares intact.)

The clarity of the Hawaii episodes is great! The only exception is a short back up print where Bobby sits on the Ukillele, and another back up print where Mike and Carol are having after dinner drinks at night and talking about Don Ho's show. (A scene you can only find on the DVD.) All the vacation episodes are very clear. The Cincinnati Kids episode probably has the most restored footage with I would estimate about 4 minutes of footage that you can now only see on the DVD.

Feel free to add to this thead. You will be very pleased with the disks.

Jack

Thanks Jack. Movies Unlimited has The Brady Bunch complete series listed for $161.99 plus shipping. They must have recently upped the price 10 bucks, I ordered mine for $151.99. For a classic show like The Brady Bunch, you would think that they have all the episodes uncut from one source. It's a shame they had to locate back up prints in order to give us uncut episodes. Sounds like a lot of work was involved to achieve that, so credit must be given to the folks at Paramount. The Brady Bunch is the only show I know of where different sources needed to be used to come up with uncut episodes.

The Brady kids began looking older starting with the 4th season. When you look at the pictures on the DVD boxes, there's a big difference from the third season to the fourth. Looking forward to the DVD's. In my opinion, The Brady Bunch and All In The Family are the top two sitcoms from the 70's.

You're welcome Lee,

How much was the entire series going for at Movies Unlimited? I was very impressed with the quality of the DVD's. And like I said, what you're getting is the best quality-wise that this show has been able to be preserved.

I've been researching for months trying to find out why the fill in squares were omitted from the vacation episodes. I do know that Paramount did sell The Brady Bunch vacation episodes as "Mini-Movies" to syndication markets around the mid-late 80's. In other words, the 3-part episdoes were spliced together as a 90-minute movie for each of the three part shows. My guess is that the squares were removed for continuity. (I prefer the squares intact.)

The clarity of the Hawaii episodes is great! The only exception is a short back up print where Bobby sits on the Ukillele, and another back up print where Mike and Carol are having after dinner drinks at night and talking about Don Ho's show. (A scene you can only find on the DVD.) All the vacation episodes are very clear. The Cincinnati Kids episode probably has the most restored footage with I would estimate about 4 minutes of footage that you can now only see on the DVD.

Feel free to add to this thead. You will be very pleased with the disks.

Jack

hey jack whats up, its good to hear from you again, hey i wanted to asked you a couple of question about some of the deleted scenes in BB what are some of the deletted scenes that are on the dvd which is not shown on syndication lie the episodes where cindy is telling on everybody, the wheeler dealer with greg car, the brady braves where bobby and cindy are having what they call a firedril and the episode will the real jan brady please stand up than you

hey jack whats up, its good to hear from you again, hey i wanted to asked you a couple of question about some of the deleted scenes in BB what are some of the deletted scenes that are on the dvd which is not shown on syndication lie the episodes where cindy is telling on everybody, the wheeler dealer with greg car, the brady braves where bobby and cindy are having what they call a firedril and the episode will the real jan brady please stand up than you

Hey Studd,

Sorry for the delay. You picked out some good episodes! The uncut versions of what you mentioned show the following:

The Tattletale: A scene of Cindy ratting out Greg for ripping his good pants playing basketball.

Wheeler Dealer: An entire scene in the begining with Greg teaching Alice how to drive in the kitchen using a chair and a plate (only on the DVD.) Another cut from syndication scene where Mike says that Greg's car might be Mike's Dad's old car!

"The Brady Braves": More scenes of the family looking for Cindy and Bobby. (In ALL of the Grand Canyon episodes.) For instance, "Ghost Town USA has all kinds of footage only on the DVD of Zacharia Brown giving the family a tour of Cactus Creek before they even get to the jail.

"The Personality Kid": More lines with Peter telling Marcia's friend about the "Invasion of the Potato People Movie" (only on the DVD) (Is this the fire drill one, I think so.)

"Will The Real Jan Brady Please Stand Up": Much longer scene of Jan looking at wigs in the store. A scene of Jan trying to put a handbag on her head and the saleslady repremanding an employee not to mix up the merchandise. (Only on the DVD.) Another scene of Mike and Carol watching a movie. Carol is crying about a scene in the movie, and she and Mike than embrace just before Jan comes home after being humiliated about her wig at Lucy Winter's birthday party. (only on the DVD.)

Jack

Jack thank you so much i really miss you breaking down the episodes hey there is one episode i wanted to asked you about as well as the deleted scenes, there is an episode where peter is in the toy store and he saves a little girl from being hurt and they put his picture in the newspaper and they call him a hero, in that episode on the dvd what are some of the deleted scenes an how about the deleted scenes from this episodes The Not So Rose Colored Glasses the babysitters My Sister, Benedict Arnold
thanks again

Jack thank you so much i really miss you breaking down the episodes hey there is one episode i wanted to asked you about as well as the deleted scenes, there is an episode where peter is in the toy store and he saves a little girl from being hurt and they put his picture in the newspaper and they call him a hero, in that episode on the dvd what are some of the deleted scenes an how about the deleted scenes from this episodes The Not So Rose Colored Glasses the babysitters My Sister, Benedict Arnold
thanks again

Hi Studd,

Let's see what I can remember from these episodes:

"The Hero": Peter come home and tells Greg and Bobby that he saved the girl's life, they don't believe him. (On DVD only) A small scene with Bobby talking to, I think, Cindy who says "From now on, I have to put the garbage out instead of him (Peter) cuz hero's don't take out the garbage. (DVD only)

"Not So Rose Colored Glasses" If you have TV Land, the whole sequence of the photographer forgetting the film and the positions of the kids...ect. has been restored. Syndication chops this episode up pretty badly. I can't think of any major DVD restorations here. The episode (based on TV Land's print) appears to be more time-compressed than edited down.

"The BabySitters": A scene of Carol, Mike and Alice talking downstairs about a sitter before Greg and Marcia tell them that they don't need one. Longer scenes of Carol and Mike at dinner, another scene of Mike telling Marcia to turn off the stove if they smell gass, (or something like that.) She says, "Dad, our stove's electric." (DVD Only)

"My Sister Benedict Arnold" Marcia preparing for her date with Warren and she's all nervous. Cindy points out that she's wearing two different shoes. (DVD only) A longer sequence of Peter and Bobby at the dunking booth. Carol telling Pete to do his homework, Bobby dunking himself, Pete says, "You make a dumb looking mermaid." Bobby splashing him with water. (TV Land/syndicate shorten these sequences)

Hope that helps! Studd, let me know if you get any Brady Bunch DVD's for Christmas or whatever! Have you gotten any of the seasons yet? Oh yea, in the future, it might help to do requests for a max of 3 episodes at once. This will allow me more time to think and review what is missing or on different edits. Than I can provide you with a more detailed explanation.

Jack

hey jack thank you so much, i have tried getting the dvds but the walmart down here in ga does not carry it which is a shame, but i have to asked you this in the episode the click where greg is playing football what are some of the deleted scenes that they are showin on the dvd and also the big little man jan ant jenny an peter and the wolf

hey jack happy hoildays hey i no that you have been extremly busy, but i must asked you about the episode of bb that i saw yesterday on tv land and i wanted to asked you on the dvd what are some of the deleted scenes from the episode where both bobby an cindy are trying to break the teeter tatter record i no you no some of the deleted that you can see only on the dvd thanks

hey jack happy hoildays hey i no that you have been extremly busy, but i must asked you about the episode of bb that i saw yesterday on tv land and i wanted to asked you on the dvd what are some of the deleted scenes from the episode where both bobby an cindy are trying to break the teeter tatter record i no you no some of the deleted that you can see only on the dvd thanks

Hi Studd,

Thanks! And Happy Holidays to you too!

"The Teeter Totter Caper": A scene with Marcia and Jan painting a chair (either cut or shortened by syndication. It's on TV Land's print) Than when Greg and Peter help fix the radio and won't let Bobby help. (Cut by syndication shown on TV Land.)

A DVD only scene is Alice trying to cook a spaghetti recipe from a radio show and she gets stuck cuz she can't find garlic.

Interesting tidbit: On DVD, this episode comes in the shortest at 24min:30 secs, where all the others average 25 minutes or more. No one has come up with evidence of anything cut out of the DVD, but we did find that this episode originally aired on December 31, 1971. Because of it being New Years Eve, it is possible that the network may have time compressed this episode to allow for more festivities and advertising for that night. But we may never know for sure. Unless we can go back to that date via time machine and watch the original airing! hahaha!

Jack

hey jack happy hoildays you are the man there was one episode that i wanted to asked you about that inserted onto the dvd but is cut in syndcation, i do not no what episode it was but there was an episode where peter was asking greg questions or advice about about girls and i remember where greg was helping peter recite some poetry to the girl that peter liked an when she found out that it was greg reciting poems to her peter got mad at greg an said you stole my girl in that episode what were some of the extended scenes in that episode which you could only see on dvd

hey jack happy hoildays you are the man there was one episode that i wanted to asked you about that inserted onto the dvd but is cut in syndcation, i do not no what episode it was but there was an episode where peter was asking greg questions or advice about about girls and i remember where greg was helping peter recite some poetry to the girl that peter liked an when she found out that it was greg reciting poems to her peter got mad at greg an said you stole my girl in that episode what were some of the extended scenes in that episode which you could only see on dvd

Hey Stud,

Happy Holidays to you also! The episode that you are referring to is "Cereno Da Brady.":

Peter falls for Jan's friend Kerry Hathaway, but gets so nervous when he is around he can't even talk to her. He tries to write a letter, but forgets to sign his name to it! (hahaha) He asks Greg for romantic lines to give to her, so they both go over to Kerry's house. Greg hides in the bushes and feeds Peter lines from "Cyereno." Kerry gets the message, but Pete screws up the lines he's supposed to say and falls for Greg!

This is an under-rated classic episode!

Syndication edits this one pretty badly. First of all, after the famouse "Cyereno" scene above, Pete runs home and he and Greg have this big argument where Pete accuses Greg of stealing his girl! Greg says, "You didn't say what I told you." (shown only on TV Land/DVD) Peter eventually realizes that he messed up but Kerry starts doing nice things for Greg. Alice tells him that "Kerry brought over homemade fudge for you." Greg's like "What?! I gotta do something. She's getting to be too much." Cindy asks, "If you don't liike her any more, can I have the fudge." (TV Land/DVD only)

That's where Greg gets the idea to show Kerry that he's a rat-fink. (They disguse Marcia as "the other woman, Debbie" setting it up so that "Debbie" is in the living room when Kerry is supposed to come to the house. (If you want to see the kids planning for this scene and the scene in its entirty, that part is only on DVD. TV Land starts out with Greg greating Kerrey at the door. Peter comes home, catches all of them in the act, says how bad it is to treat Kerry like that and they all apoliogize.

This is a Brady Bunch Episode that MUST be seen uncut, because there are too many plot holes in all of the other versions.

Jack

Hi Studd,

Thanks! And Happy Holidays to you too!

"The Teeter Totter Caper": A scene with Marcia and Jan painting a chair (either cut or shortened by syndication. It's on TV Land's print) Than when Greg and Peter help fix the radio and won't let Bobby help. (Cut by syndication shown on TV Land.)

A DVD only scene is Alice trying to cook a spaghetti recipe from a radio show and she gets stuck cuz she can't find garlic.

Interesting tidbit: On DVD, this episode comes in the shortest at 24min:30 secs, where all the others average 25 minutes or more. No one has come up with evidence of anything cut out of the DVD, but we did find that this episode originally aired on December 31, 1971. Because of it being New Years Eve, it is possible that the network may have time compressed this episode to allow for more festivities and advertising for that night. But we may never know for sure. Unless we can go back to that date via time machine and watch the original airing! hahaha!

Jack

Jack,

Check your time again for the Teeter Totter episode. I have it at 25:25.

Jack,

Check your time again for the Teeter Totter episode. I have it at 25:25.

I will have to do that! Someone else, I think even posted on this forum and another that their version of Teeter Totter Caper also came in at 24:30.

May I ask when you bought your Season 3 DVD?

Jack

I will have to do that! Someone else, I think even posted on this forum and another that their version of Teeter Totter Caper also came in at 24:30.

May I ask when you bought your Season 3 DVD?

Jack

I ordered The Brady Bunch complete series from Movies Unlimited, got the sets a few weeks ago. I checked the time again for the Teeter Totter Caper, it clocks in at 25:25.

I ordered The Brady Bunch complete series from Movies Unlimited, got the sets a few weeks ago. I checked the time again for the Teeter Totter Caper, it clocks in at 25:25.

Thanks Lee,

I want to check this again when I have time. If you want to do me (and the board) a favor. (I assume you are familiar with both TV Land and syndicated prints of the series. The one thing that I have seen on my DVD copy that you can't see on syndicated or TV Land prints is Alice trying to make a spaghetti sauce recipe listening to a radio cooking show and she gets stuck because she can't find garlic. I think there is another brief scene of Alice coming out to take Cindy's place so that she can go to the bathroom. Other than that, I assume it's restored to full length, but damn! this bothers me!

What other scenes do you have on your copy that you can't recall anywhere else?

Jack

PS. I am gonna watch my copy now. I will let you know if I got the time wrong.

AHHHH! You were right Lee!

25:25

Jack

AHHHH! You were right Lee!

25:25

Jack

Thanks, Jack. I watched the TEETER TOTTER CAPER last night, I noticed one part where I thought something might be cut. About two minutes into the episode- Bobby, Cindy, Alice, Carol and Mike are in the kitchen. The two kids leave the room and the scene focuses in on Alice, Carol and Mike. It looks like Mike is about to say something, but the scene cuts to Bobby entering the boys bedroom. So it appears that they may have cut a small dialogue sequence with Carol and Mike before we see Bobby enter the bedroom. That would explain why the TEETER TOTTER CAPER times at about 25 seconds short of a normal third season episode. Take a look at it and let me know what you think. TWO PETES IN A POD runs a little short for a fifth season episode, I'll have to watch that one later and see if I can detect any possible edits.

Thanks, Jack. I watched the TEETER TOTTER CAPER last night, I noticed one part where I thought something might be cut. About two minutes into the episode- Bobby, Cindy, Alice, Carol and Mike are in the kitchen. The two kids leave the room and the scene focuses in on Alice, Carol and Mike. It looks like Mike is about to say something, but the scene cuts to Bobby entering the boys bedroom. So it appears that they may have cut a small dialog sequence with Carol and Mike before we see Bobby enter the bedroom. That would explain why the TEETER TOTTER CAPER times at about 25 seconds short of a normal third season episode. Take a look at it and let me know what you think. TWO PETES IN A POD runs a little short for a fifth season episode, I'll have to watch that one later and see if I can detect any possible edits.

Sure Lee,

I suppose that is possible. But the other thing is that there might have been post production cuts or changes on some episodes before air-time or subtle changes in dialog. Here are some examples:

"Goodbye Alice Hello": Watch the scene where Carol demands to know who from Alice broke the lamp, Ann's mouth moves, but mood music cuts to the next scene.

"Her Sister's Shadow": (My #1 BB Episode along with "Bobby's Hero" for writing and content.) After Jan decides to relinquish her Honor Society Certificate by admitting her winning essay score was miscalculated, and Mrs. Watson concludes her speech with, "Her behavior today should be an example to all of us," There is a quick fade to black and the next lines are...."and I wanted to win at something so badly, I didn't know what to do." Since a sentence would not be started mid-way like this, and even the old Columbia House tapes that showed this episode had the same issue, we will never know what was taken out here. This is a landmark episode, marred only by the producers using the same stock-pile footage that they used in "Vote For Brady" for the auditorium shots.

"Is There A Doctor in the House?": When Alice and Carol are comparing illnesses of the family, Mike's line, "This is wrong, none of the kids have had shots for distemper." The word "distemper" appears to be dubbed. Most observers think that the script called for Robert to say "Rabies." Reed might have complained about that, and insisted that the word be changed in post-production.

Jack

Sure Lee,

I suppose that is possible. But the other thing is that there might have been post production cuts or changes on some episodes before air-time or subtle changes in dialog. Here are some examples:

"Goodbye Alice Hello": Watch the scene where Carol demands to know who from Alice broke the lamp, Ann's mouth moves, but mood music cuts to the next scene.

"Her Sister's Shadow": (My #1 BB Episode along with "Bobby's Hero" for writing and content.) After Jan decides to relinquish her Honor Society Certificate by admitting her winning essay score was miscalculated, and Mrs. Watson concludes her speech with, "Her behavior today should be an example to all of us," There is a quick fade to black and the next lines are...."and I wanted to win at something so badly, I didn't know what to do." Since a sentence would not be started mid-way like this, and even the old Columbia House tapes that showed this episode had the same issue, we will never know what was taken out here. This is a landmark episode, marred only by the producers using the same stock-pile footage that they used in "Vote For Brady" for the auditorium shots.

"Is There A Doctor in the House?": When Alice and Carol are comparing illnesses of the family, Mike's line, "This is wrong, none of the kids have had shots for distemper." The word "distemper" appears to be dubbed. Most observers think that the script called for Robert to say "Rabies." Reed might have complained about that, and insisted that the word be changed in post-production.

Jack

Points well taken. Occasionally the producers will begin a scene with someone in mid-sentence, or have lines/words dubbed in after the fact. That quick cut in the early part of THE TEETER TOTTER CAPER does look a little odd, but perhaps that's just how the episode was made. As far as the DVD's go, if the worst thing they did was leave off 20 seconds from PASS THE TABU, then I guess we shouldn't complain too much. I can live with the fill in squares missing from a few episodes. YOU CAN'T WIN EM ALL and TWO PETES IN A POD are two other episodes that run a little short, I'll watch those later and see if I can detect any possible cuts/edits.

hey jack whats up, i am so sorry that i keep on coming to you week after week asking you about the brady bunch deleted scenes but i have got to asked you about the deleted scenes from the episode an now a word from our sponser and the episodes where bobby becomes the school moniter and putting everybody on his reports i was watching that on tv land the other day so i wanted to no in that episodes where bobby is putting everybody on his report what are some of the deleted scenes that are cut from that episode but is restored studd

hey jack whats up, i am so sorry that i keep on coming to you week after week asking you about the brady bunch deleted scenes but i have got to asked you about the deleted scenes from the episode an now a word from our sponser and the episodes where bobby becomes the school moniter and putting everybody on his reports i was watching that on tv land the other day so i wanted to no in that episodes where bobby is putting everybody on his report what are some of the deleted scenes that are cut from that episode but is restored studd

Hi Studd,

ARRGHHHH! The laundry soap commercial!!! I HATE THAT ONE! (Can't stand so many things about that episode.) Find my thread on the forum where I bash it! hahaha!

Deleted scenes, all I remember is a longer scene with Mr. Farnum "scanning the pad." (Some of THE WORST ACTING FROM THIS NUT FARNUM!) on the DVD. As you can tell, it's not one of my favorite episodes! LOL!

For "Law and Disorder" There's an added scene (DVD only I think) of Bobby saying that he is going to put Alice on report for having too many wall outlets plugged in. Another scene of Carol catching Bobby reading his safety manuel in bed. (DVD/TV Land.) Another scene where Bobby issues a citation to a kid for chewing gum and than the kid swallows it. (syndication/DVD.)

Jack

Hey jack thank you so much i really appericate you breaking down the deleted scenes of BB but i just have two questions to asked you about both episodes and the deleted scenes that you could only find on the dvd the episodes The Private Ear sergent emma and cindy brady lady

Hey jack thank you so much i really appericate you breaking down the deleted scenes of BB but i just have two questions to asked you about both episodes and the deleted scenes that you could only find on the dvd the episodes The Private Ear sergent emma and cindy brady lady

From Memory: Private Ear has more conversation with Greg and Marcia preparing the recording. (Also several instances of the recording and playback are NOT syncronized) Another line is Peter asking if his brothers and sisters are gonna sue him, which is cut by syndication. TV Land cuts out the part where Peter hints around for new records when he thinks there is gonna be a surprise party for him

Sergent Emma: Has a few longer excersize scenes in the back yard and Emma inspecting the kids rooms. Nothing major.

Not sure on "Cindy Brady Lady." It might be more time compressed than edited for dialogue

There are TWO episodes that when I compare them from the DVD to TV Land's print, I couldn't tell if anything was missing. They are from Season 1, Kitty-Karry-All is Missing and from Season 2, The Tattletale. Syndication versions of "The Tattletale" omit the part where Cindy rats on Greg for ripping his good pants while playing basketball and another scene where Marcia and Jan come home from school and are talking about something that happened at school. Cindy wants to know what's going on, and Jan says,

"UM, Marcia we better go upstaris." Marcia says, "Yea you're right. I sure hope neither one of us talks in their sleep. (she looks at Cindy) "Little Miss you-know-who might get up and start taking notes."

I hate "Your Never Too Old" so another poster did the DVD restorations for me: Enjoy!

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OK, I've taken this challenge, since a friend gave me Season 4 for Christmas. I watched this ep tonight and took notes on each scene, then I immediately watched this ep in its syndicated version which I taped off a local station in the mid-90s.

The DVD includes a scene (and parts of other scenes) that were cut in syndication:

When they're first sitting down and meeting on the patio, Hank tells Connie that he sat on the bench for 40 years, and Connie says "40 years on the bench? You must've picked up a seat-full of splinters!". Then syndication picks up where Connie asks Hank if judges ever don't wear pants under their robes.

The whole scene is omitted from syndication where Connie and Hank drink a toast to each other, then the boys and girls make their excuses about why they have to leave for the evening.

During the breakfast scene after the disastrous supper, syndication cuts out the part after Alice says the dinner was "disasterful". Alice describes what happened, Marcia says that she can't let them stay angry at each other, and Greg says, "I told you not to meddle.". Syndication picks up again where Connie comes in from her morning jog just after that.

I hope I did justice to Jack1000's standards.

Okay...

How about the episode 'Mike's horoscope'? Did it have anything deleted from the DVD?

Okay...

How about the episode 'Mike's horoscope'? Did it have anything deleted from the DVD?

No,

All the DVD's of Brady Bunch are uncut except for 15 seconds or so missing from the Hawaii episode "Pass the Tabu." Also missing are the fill in squares for "Love and the Older Man", "Greg Gets Grounded", and ALL of the vacation episodes.

Have not seen "Mike's Horrorscope" in TV Land or Syndication versions for a long time. I think the DVD has a couple scenes of Carol at home worrying about Mike cuz he's working so late but am not sure.

See, some Brady Bunch episodes are edited VERY subtle. They may have 1-2 lines cut out that are hard to spot with the dialog sped up slightly to fit into an under 22 minute time slot. For instance, a poster commented that "Getting Davey Jones" is only missing two scenes on syndicated/TV Land prints, one is where the kids help Marcia write a letter to Davey Jones. The second instance is Carol saying that "Davey Jones is the greatest thing around here since Pepperoni Pizza." Most of this episode is time-compressed.

Compare that to:

Father of the Year

The Impractical Joker

The Show Must Go On?

Goodbye Alice, Hello or

The Cincinnati Kids. (With the most cuts of all episodes IMO.)

These shows are easier to compare because so much has been cut and in a very sloppy way for both the TV Land and syndicated prints. You have whole scenes gone, not just 1-2 lines of dialog with time compression.

The reason why there is such a difference not only in Brady Bunch edits but almost all sitcom edits for anything syndicated in the 50's-70's was because the producers at the time did not realize the marquee value in rerunning a show for syndication. This is why 75% or more of Game Shows from the 50's-70's no longer exist. No one could predict that the future of TV was gonna be what it is today, so when The Brady Bunch and other shows were syndicated the company (in Brady Bunch's case, Paramount) just looked for the best places to insert a couple more commercials and cut scenes out from the master tapes to do so! (This is why they had to use the grainy 16/35mm back up prints for some of the scenes on the DVD to get the episodes uncut.) The original negatives were assumed to be deep-sixed by the time the show's episodes went to full syndication around the summer of 1975.

Fall 1975 saw more cuts and in some cases syndication did their own cuts. Then the shows circulated that way for a while. Another syndicated cycle had the show distributed in the mid-80's when TBS picked it up. After they lost the rights to Brady Bunch, they picked it up again in the early 90's and did more cuts. Than in the summer of 1998, TV Land got exclusive rights to The Brady Bunch, but needed their episodes to be a slightly different length than the syndicated prints that had been floating around on TBS since around 1985. Paramount agreed to re-cut the series and sent new "edits" to TV Land, using back up footage for some scenes and editing out other scenes that TBS left in. This is the first time that we loyal Brady Bunch viewers saw the "grainy restored back up prints for some scenes." (The first non-syndicated print that showed some material that viewers had not seen for years.)

That's where we are now. TV Land is using their edited prints from Paramount that they got in the Summer of 1998. Syndication has been using their own edited prints since the last cycle for a full-round syndication. (About 1992.) From 1975-1992 on the syndicated cycles of The Brady Bunch, approximately 1 minute was chopped out or time compressed for each cycle. So you figure 3-4 major syndicated cycle edits, plus a recut and reedited package for TV Land with one minute off each episode each time it goes through a new cycle plus time compression, a 25:20 episode of The Brady Bunch that was uncut on first-run and DVD now comes in at no higher than 21:50 regardless of whether you are watching TV Land's or a syndicated print.

Jack

Was there for sure not a tag sequence for the pilot episode? I seem to remember a tag scene with all of the Bradys in the honeymoon suite. Even if the show's story was wrapped up, they could always create a tag scene.

Was there for sure not a tag sequence for the pilot episode? I seem to remember a tag scene with all of the Bradys in the honeymoon suite. Even if the show's story was wrapped up, they could always create a tag scene.

Eric,

To my knowledge no there was not. But one would have to go back into the vaults to get "The Honeymoon" back up print to verify. Can you describe what is in this alleged tag sequence and recall approximately the last time you saw this possible tag? My EARLIEST Brady Bunch recollection was watching it in 1975 on the first syndication cycle. They did used to have the bumper music with one of the kids who the week's story was about say, "The Brady Bunch Will Return in a Moment." between the last commercial break and the tag scene. This was dropped by syndicated markets in the Fall of 1975 and was never seen again. (Too bad this could not have been restored for the DVD's.) But I honestly can not remember a tag scene for the Honeymoon!

Other scenes I have no recollection of:

1.) Greg teaching Alice how to "drive" in the kitchen in the beginning of "The Wheeler Dealer."

2.) Peter and Bobby selling Family Night Frolic tickets door to door in the "The Show Must Go On?"

3.) The boys simulating a boat for Alice, using a balance beam and chairs in the beginning of "Coming out Party."

I have a suspicion that these scenes were zapped as early as 1975, I do not remember these at all!

Why would they not restore "The Honeymoon" tag scene if it existed? It comes in at exactly 25 minutes. I am not sure what else could be said in that episode. When the kids march up the hotel stairs and their arguing has ended, nothing more would need to be said.

I mean they could have had each of the kids saying "I Love You" in bed, but that would be a little corny even by Brady standards!

Jack

On the DVD, THE HONEYMOON runs 24:45. First season episodes average 25:30. So it's possible that there is a tag sequence of about 45 seconds and it was cut from the DVD. I seem to remember an ending scene in the suite with Carol, Mike and all the kids and one of the parents says to the kids "The Honeymoon wasn't same without you." Something to that effect. ME-TV in Chicago is scheduled to air THE HONEYMOON episode on Feb.11. They usually air shows uncut. I get that station, I will record the episode and see if there is a tag sequence at the end.

Another Brady episode I've questioned is GREG GETS GROUNDED. I believe there may be a tag sequence for that episode also and it was cut from the DVD. The episode ends on the DVD just like THE HONEYMOON does, fill in squares followed by the closing credits.

When you think about it, it's odd that 2 episodes out of the 117 on the DVD's don't have a tag sequence before the ending credits. Why would they make just two episodes with no tag sequence? It doesn't make sense. My hunch is the tags were cut from the DVD's on those two episodes. I'm curious to see that airing of THE HONEYMOON in a couple weeks and at least clear up that part of the mystery.

On the DVD, THE HONEYMOON runs 24:45. First season episodes average 25:30. So it's possible that there is a tag sequence of about 45 seconds and it was cut from the DVD. I seem to remember an ending scene in the suite with Carol, Mike and all the kids and one of the parents says to the kids "The Honeymoon wasn't same without you." Something to that effect. ME-TV in Chicago is scheduled to air THE HONEYMOON episode on Feb.11. They usually air shows uncut. I get that station, I will record the episode and see if there is a tag sequence at the end.

Another Brady episode I've questioned is GREG GETS GROUNDED. I believe there may be a tag sequence for that episode also and it was cut from the DVD. The episode ends on the DVD just like THE HONEYMOON does, fill in squares followed by the closing credits.

When you think about it, it's odd that 2 episodes out of the 117 on the DVD's don't have a tag sequence before the ending credits. Why would they make just two episodes with no tag sequence? It doesn't make sense. My hunch is the tags were cut from the DVD's on those two episodes. I'm curious to see that airing of THE HONEYMOON in a couple weeks and at least clear up that part of the mystery.

Interesting Observation!

But the question is if "The Honeymoon" had a tag originally, why would it be cut from ALL airings, especially on a shorter run episode? They could have used the back-up prints to restore such an ending. Do you think the producers just decided that it wasn't needed after the first run and just dumped it?

Now Greg Gets Grounded has a tag but looks like it doesn't because of poor editing by Paramount. We have the frogs jumping on the pizza followed by Greg's ad-libbed lines and than the fill in squares which syndication used to show. My syndicate did not show the squares when this episode was on last Sunday. But the squares are there after Barry says his ad-libbed lines, which TV Land cuts out.

The tag for this episode is back in the Master Bedroom, Carol laughing about "inventing a whole new dish, pepperoni frog pizza." Mike says, "None of this would have happened if it hadn't been for your exact words." Greg wants to forget living by them. Mike agrees. Mike says he has to get some sleep, asks for a goodnight kiss. Carol says, "You didn't say anything about a goodnight kiss, you just said you had to get some sleep, those were your exact words."

Mike says, "Come to think of it, those were my exact words."

Carol says, "Give me a kiss!"

Mike says, "I'll give you a kiss."

Perfect tag.

They wouldn't do the squares at the drive in, the tag bedroom scene and than ANOTHER tag scene. The problem is, the idiots at Paramount forgot to do the squares when they burned the disk so it blends into the tag scene in the Master Bedroom.

But you might be right about that Honeymoon scenario!

Jack

You might be correct Jack about GREG GETS GROUNDED. The episode still runs a little short which makes it seem like something was cut, but there are a couple other shorter episodes like THE TEETER TOTTER CAPER and TWO PETES IN A POD and those are uncut on the DVD's as far as I know. So I guess it's possible that GREG GETS GROUNDED is the uncut episode, but they screwed up and put the fill in squares at the very end of the episode instead of where they're supposed to be. When you watch GREG GETS GROUNDED on the DVD, nothing really looks out of place. Fade out from the drive in, fade in to the bedroom, fill in squares at the end of the bedroom scene. It all looks correct, so I was expecting to see a brief tag there after the squares. But perhaps you're right and the squares were just inserted in the wrong place. I'll be on the lookout if ME-TV airs the episode and see if theirs is any different. LOVE AND THE OLDER MAN and the vacation episodes have no fill in squares at all, another mishap by Paramount.

I'm going to record that Chicago airing of THE HONEYMOON on Feb.11. I'll post back then and let you know if they air a tag sequence that doesn't appear on the DVD.

All the DVD's of Brady Bunch are uncut except for 15 seconds or so missing from the Hawaii episode "Pass the Tabu." Also missing are the fill in squares for "Love and the Older Man", "Greg Gets Grounded", and ALL of the vacation episodes.

Jack

One correction, GREG GETS GROUNDED does have the fill in squares. Like in THE HONEYMOON episode, they appear at the tail end of the episode right before the ending credits. The mystery still to be solved is whether they omitted the tag sequences for those two episodes on the DVD's.

One correction, GREG GETS GROUNDED does have the fill in squares. Like in THE HONEYMOON episode, they appear at the tail end of the episode right before the ending credits. The mystery still to be solved is whether they omitted the tag sequences for those two episodes on the DVD's.

Well,

My DVD does NOT have the fill in squares for "Greg Gets Grounded." It goes from the drive in scene with some fade in music to Carol laughing in the Master Bedroom. (It looks like the scenes are blended together.)

Jack

PS. Last Sunday afternoon, my syndicated station showed "Greg Gets Grounded" and cut to a commercial immediately after Greg's ad-libbed lines. (No fill in squares.) Than the Master Bedroom scene, followed by the closing credits.

Well,

My DVD does NOT have the fill in squares for "Greg Gets Grounded." It goes from the drive in scene with some fade in music to Carol laughing in the Master Bedroom. (It looks like the scenes are blended together.)

Jack

PS. Last Sunday afternoon, my syndicated station showed "Greg Gets Grounded" and cut to a commercial immediately after Greg's ad-libbed lines. (No fill in squares.) Than the Master Bedroom scene, followed by the closing credits.

On the DVD, the fill in squares for GREG GETS GROUNDED appear at the end of the master bedroom scene, followed by the closing credits. At least that's how it is on my DVD.

On the DVD, the fill in squares for GREG GETS GROUNDED appear at the end of the master bedroom scene, followed by the closing credits. At least that's how it is on my DVD.

I am gonna recheck my DVD. Will post back in a few days.

Jack

I am gonna recheck my DVD. Will post back in a few days.

Jack

Lee,

You are correct! It is clear that the fill in squares are there on "Greg Gets Grounded" but are not synchronized in their usual place, resulting in the confusion. Either the squares were not put in the right place for the original airing and were moved to their customary position for syndicated airings, OR this was an error made in post-production and it took Paramount selling the show to syndication markets to correct the problem.

I am now even more convinced that the Master Bedroom scene following the drive-in, IS the tag sequence.

Forum members should watch for "Greg Gets Grounded" on your local syndicated stations to see how the squares are dealt with.

I could have sworn that for years syndication always showed the fill-in squares after the drive in scene, than the bedroom tag sequence followed by the closing credits.

Jack

I am gonna recheck my DVD. Will post back in a few days.

Jack

Jack,

I watched GREG GETS GROUNDED again, and I am certain now that the fill in squares are correct and in the right place, which is at the end of the master bedroom scene. The fade out from the drive in and fade in to the master bedroom is correct, that's how the episode was made. The two scenes blend together and nothing is edited there on the DVD. The only question that remains is whether there should be a tag for the episode after the bedroom scene. I suppose they may have thought the episode had a proper ending with "the kiss" and no tag was necessary. I'm still not sure, though. It is possible there's a short tag for the episode and it was omitted from the DVD. Eventually I hope to find out and solve the mystery.

Now when you look at LOVE AND THE OLDER MAN on the DVD, it's clear to see that they omitted the fill in squares because there is a quick fade out at the end of the scene where the squares are supposed to appear. It was probably an oversight by Paramount, and they neglected to put the fill in squares in that episode.

Next week sunday, I should have further news on whether or not THE HONEYMOON episode does indeed have a tag sequence. I'll post back then and let you know what I found out.

Lee,

You are correct! It is clear that the fill in squares are there on "Greg Gets Grounded" but are not synchronized in their usual place, resulting in the confusion. Either the squares were not put in the right place for the original airing and were moved to their customary position for syndicated airings, OR this was an error made in post-production and it took Paramount selling the show to syndication markets to correct the problem.

I am now even more convinced that the Master Bedroom scene following the drive-in, IS the tag sequence.

Jack

It is possible that the bedroom scene is indeed the tag sequence. Since they originally did a fade out and fade in from the drive in scene to the bedroom scene, the squares would not have been appropriate or even fit in that case. So perhaps they decided then to put the squares at the very end of the episode, with Mike & Carol's kiss. Seems like that could be logical. The episode still runs about 30 seconds short, so there's still the possibility that a brief tag scene should appear after the squares, but it was omitted from the DVD.

hey jack whats up, i hope all is well, hey i need to asked you a question to asked you about what on the dvd, the episode that i wanted to asked you about was you can't win them all male order hero

It is possible that the bedroom scene is indeed the tag sequence. Since they originally did a fade out and fade in from the drive in scene to the bedroom scene, the squares would not have been appropriate or even fit in that case. So perhaps they decided then to put the squares at the very end of the episode, with Mike & Carol's kiss. Seems like that could be logical. The episode still runs about 30 seconds short, so there's still the possibility that a brief tag scene should appear after the squares, but it was omitted from the DVD.

I watched the first season episode KATCHOO, and that episode is complete and has a short tag scene of about 30 seconds. So it's indeed possible that GREG GETS GROUNDED should have a short tag scene as well, but it was omitted from the DVD. On the DVD, GREG GETS GROUNDED has no tag scene after the fill in squares, and the episode runs about 30 seconds short from what is normal for fourth season episodes.

Isn't there a slight possibility that all of the omissions on the dvds were like that for original airings? I'm sure that Paramount used the backups to compare. Why would LOVE AND THE OLDER MAN be missing the squares when they are on the syndicated versions?

Isn't there a slight possibility that all of the omissions on the dvds were like that for original airings? I'm sure that Paramount used the backups to compare. Why would LOVE AND THE OLDER MAN be missing the squares when they are on the syndicated versions?

Paramount made a few small errors while making the DVD's. Fill in squares should be present in all the episodes. I don't mind too much that the squares are missing in a few episodes, seven to be exact. What I see as the bigger problem is the 20 seconds that's cut from PASS THE TABU. And the mystery still remains whether there should be a tag sequence for THE HONEYMOON and GREG GETS GROUNDED. I should have an answer soon regarding THE HONEYMOON.

Paramount made a few small errors while making the DVD's. Fill in squares should be present in all the episodes. I don't mind too much that the squares are missing in a few episodes, seven to be exact. What I see as the bigger problem is the 20 seconds that's cut from PASS THE TABU. And the mystery still remains whether there should be a tag sequence for THE HONEYMOON and GREG GETS GROUNDED. I should have an answer soon regarding THE HONEYMOON.

Lee,

What is your theory with regards to TV Land's print and the out-of-place squares for Greg Gets Grounded? (Going on the assumption that the DVD placement was as originally aired.)

Jack

Lee,

What is your theory with regards to TV Land's print and the out-of-place squares for Greg Gets Grounded? (Going on the assumption that the DVD placement was as originally aired.)

Jack

When watching the episode on DVD, I'm certain that the squares are in the right place, at the end of the master bedroom scene. As far as TV Land's print is concerned, the squares popping up at the end of the drive in scene is most likely something that was done when the episodes went into syndication, so it makes the master bedroom scene appear to be the tag for the episode. Since the squares are in the right place on the DVD, one of two things is possible. Either GREG GETS GROUNDED just ends with those fill in squares and there is no tag, or there is a brief tag scene and it was left off the DVD. It might take a little time, but eventually I'll find out which is the case. I seem to remember a short tag for the episode with the Brady kids in their back yard with those frogs, can't be sure though. I'm trying to recall from my memory of the original airing, which is more than 30 years ago. It's possible that GREG GETS GROUNDED is just a unique episode that ends with no tag scene after the squares.

Hey jack what’s up, I hope all is well, hey today on TV land I was watching the top 10 Brady bunch episodes, but I wanted to asked you something, paramount is planning to released the ultimate Brady bunch box sets and you had mentioned a couple of times about the major an miner adjustments that they have to fix when it comes to the editing and dialoged what do they have to fix up, I am just curious, and do you think that they will fix up all of the editing problems

Hey jack what’s up, I hope all is well, hey today on TV land I was watching the top 10 Brady bunch episodes, but I wanted to asked you something, paramount is planning to released the ultimate Brady bunch box sets and you had mentioned a couple of times about the major an miner adjustments that they have to fix when it comes to the editing and dialoged what do they have to fix up, I am just curious, and do you think that they will fix up all of the editing problems

Hi Studd,

Good to hear from you. I don't think Paramount will reburn the disks because of budget considerations. The forums will be packed with reviews about the complete series Box Set so I would just watch the forums to see if any people notice any changes in the edits. Wouldn't it be cool if the corrections were made? Even so, I won't buy the revised set for something so minor and for something that SHOULD have been corrected with the original season releases.

So far the only edits are 15 secs out of Pass The Tabu and the fill in squares on a few episodes, so I can live with that. I think I said before, you're getting 97% of the show complete and uncut and there's no chance of a redoing of the minor edited disks. (IMO) Are you thinking of getting the full box set?

Jack

hey jack it feels good to hear from you too, hey i wanted to asked you about the deleted scenes that you can only see on the dvd, what are some of the deleted scenes from try try again where jan is taking tap dancing lessions, you can win them all where cindy is on this tv show, an one last thing you mentioned a couple of editing miner problems from the tabu episodes can you think of other miner editing problems from the other episodes thanks again