I have some who disagree with me but from watching the eps this weekend it's clear from the look of the APT, the Neighborhood and the view from the kitchen window that the Kramdens lived in the Poor section of Brooklyn. Would you agree?

I think all of Brooklyn kind of looks a little old and a little run down. It is just inner city, but all citys look like that. So I don't think it is a ghetto.

Solomon, Bensonhurst, Brooklyn was not a ghetto in the 1950's.

I think all of Brooklyn kind of looks a little old and a little run down. It is just inner city, but all citys look like that. So I don't think it is a ghetto.


I just meant that lived in a low income neighborhood like the Evans. I just can't believe no one would think that who watched this show-lol

Solomon, Bensonhurst, Brooklyn was not a ghetto in the 1950's.


It sure looked like a Ghetto to me-lol

I just meant that lived in a low income neighborhood like the Evans. I just can't believe no one would think that who watched this show-lol


There's a difference between low income and ghetto. lol

There's a difference between low income and ghetto. lol


Tell me -lol

Ghetto's are dangerous places to live. You made the comparisons to Good Times. There isn't any comparison between the Cabrini projects to Chauncey Street.

I have some who disagree with me but from watching the eps this weekend it's clear from the look of the APT, the Neighborhood and the view from the kitchen window that the Kramdens lived in the Poor section of Brooklyn. Would you agree?

Judging from the apartment, you would think it was a poor section of Brooklyn. But that was supposed to be Bensonhurst, Brooklyn which was definitely not a ghetto back then. But then again, it's not the same nowadays.

Ghetto's are dangerous places to live. You made the comparisons to Good Times. There isn't any comparison between the Cabrini projects to Chauncey Street.


Well I actually just compared their financial situation, the rundown APT and the fact that the husband was a YELLER with a short temper-lol

Ghetto's are dangerous places to live. You made the comparisons to Good Times. There isn't any comparison between the Cabrini projects to Chauncey Street.


Ok well the Low Income section of Brooklyn

Ok well the Low Income section of Brooklyn
Not high crime, BUT Norton had the same apartment as Ralph, made the same money and he had a television, phone, nicer furniture, ect. So Ralph was just cheap. Bensonhurst never was a ghetto type neighborhood.

Not high crime, BUT Norton had the same apartment as Ralph, made the same money and he had a television, phone, nicer furniture, ect. So Ralph was just cheap. Bensonhurst never was a ghetto type neighborhood.


OK well LOW Crime.

OK well LOW Crime.
Yeah, right. Ralph made Bensonhurst seem worse than it was because he had such a badly furnished apartment due to his cheapness.

Not high crime, BUT Norton had the same apartment as Ralph, made the same money and he had a television, phone, nicer furniture, ect. So Ralph was just cheap. Bensonhurst never was a ghetto type neighborhood.


It was established in "TV or Not TV" that Norton never paid cash for any of those things though...he bought them all on credit. Ralph didn't want to finance the purchase of any "luxury" items.

But I definitely would not classify their apartments as a ghetto area though... those apartments could have been quite nice, if Ralph wasn't too cheap to let Alice decorate it.

Chauncey Street is not actually in Bensonhurst, it's in Bushwick, which is still a bad neighborhood to this day. Gleason grew up on Chauncey Street in Bushwick, and that's what the whole set was modeled after. The reason they called it Bensonhurst in The Honeymooners was because it sounded nicer. But yes, even in the 50's, Bushwick, Brooklyn was a run-down working class neighborhood, and driving through it today, many people may classify it as a ghetto.

It was established in "TV or Not TV" that Norton never paid cash for any of those things though...he bought them all on credit. Ralph didn't want to finance the purchase of any "luxury" items.

But I definitely would not classify their apartments as a ghetto area though... those apartments could have been quite nice, if Ralph wasn't too cheap to let Alice decorate it.


I was going by the view outside the kitchen window

Chauncey Street is not actually in Bensonhurst, it's in Bushwick, which is still a bad neighborhood to this day. Gleason grew up on Chauncey Street in Bushwick, and that's what the whole set was modeled after. The reason they called it Bensonhurst in The Honeymooners was because it sounded nicer. But yes, even in the 50's, Bushwick, Brooklyn was a run-down working class neighborhood, and driving through it today, many people may classify it as a ghetto.


That's certainly what it looked like from the kitchen window-lol Ghetto!!

You're both right about that...

I always loved when Norton (or in one case, Trixie) would leave by the fire escape, and because of some backstage lighting, they would cast a huge shadow on the "building" across the alley!!

Judging from the apartment, you would think it was a poor section of Brooklyn. But that was supposed to be Bensonhurst, Brooklyn which was definitely not a ghetto back then. But then again, it's not the same nowadays.


LOL. it's not that bad nowadays either. It's mostly an Italian-American neighborhood. I have a friend and a cousin that live there.