I can't remember if it was ever shown because I haven't seen all 39 Episodes.

I can't remember if it was ever shown because I haven't seen all 39 Episodes.

Ralph and Alice's bedroom was never shown. Norton's bedroom was shown once in a scene from "The Sleepwalker"

Ralph and Alice's bedroom was never shown. Norton's bedroom was shown once in a scene from "The Sleepwalker"


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I wonder how big it could be if the chest(dresser) was on the outside.

I'm glad they didn't show the bedroom. Because if they did (since it was the 1950s television) they would have to have twin beds. And I like to think that Ralph and Alice, being husband and wife, slept in the same bed. lol

At least when they showed the Norton's bedroom, the beds were pushed together, to give the illusion of one big bed. Also, since the Norton's apartment looked like the Kramdens (only decorated nicer) the Kramden's bedroom looked the same, again, only decorated differently.

I'm glad they didn't show the bedroom. Because if they did (since it was the 1950s television) they would have to have twin beds. And I like to think that Ralph and Alice, being husband and wife, slept in the same bed. lol



I don't think Ralph could fit on a twin bed ;)

I don't think Ralph could fit on a twin bed ;)


Matt you have me laughing my ass off right now with that comment-LOL-LOL-LL

I'm glad they didn't show the bedroom. Because if they did (since it was the 1950s television) they would have to have twin beds.

That's correct. When you think back, it's ridiculous to think a married couple would sleep in twin beds, but that was the televison standard back then. The other standard that I remember was when a man and woman were on a bed together, they had to keep at least one foot on the floor. I guess it gave the TV audience the impression that they couldn't get too passionate having to do that.:lol:

Growing up on the classics (I was born in 1981, but I loved the 50s and 60s sitcoms) I always thought married couples really did sleep in twin beds back in the fifties and sixties. Of course, I realized the truth as I got older. But it's just so ridiculous to make them have twin beds.

And for a show that tried to be down-to-earth and realisitic, I'm glad they didn't show the bedroom for that reason.

At least when they showed the Norton's bedroom, the beds were pushed together, to give the illusion of one big bed.
They could've done the same thing with the Kramden's bedroom. :D

They could've done the same thing with the Kramden's bedroom. :D

True. It's funny how on the episode of "I Love Lucy" when Lucy and Ricky are handcuffed and have to go to bed, their beds are already pushed together. Even though for most of the episodes (not all) their beds are separated. I wonder why they pushed the beds together earlier? ;)

Here's what Audrey Meadows had to say about the bedroom in Love, Alice:

Fans always ask, "What did the bedroom look like?"
All they ever saw was Alice or Ralph going in and out.
Well, I imagine the Kramden bedroom was not up to the sumptuous decor of their living room/kitchen, since Ralph believed firmly that it was dumb to decorate a room where you spent most of your time with your eyes closed.
A bedroom requires a bed. Everything else was extravagance.
Well, he had a bed all right. A bed big enough to support a man of some substance, and Ralph Kramden was very substantial. In fact, the weary mattress and springs sagged noticeably on his side and high and firm on Alice's side. Alice's one treasure was a well worn green teddy bear with one eye missing, which Ralph won for her at a carnival.
The lone window had no curtains, just a single shade with a mind of its own. Alice had a three-drawer dresser handed down from previous owners. On it was a bowl of plastic flowers (dusted daily) to add a feminine touch to the room. Ralph had a four-drawer dresser, (one drawer for Raccoon regalia). Taped to the mirror above was Ralph's "Bus Driver of the Month" award. There was no carpeting, but a yellow rattan mat laid by the bed which informed, "Asbury Park Loves You!"

...the Kramden's bedroom, he would have done so at the very beginning of the
"Honeymooners" sketches on "CAVALCADE OF STARS" in 1951-'52. But this was a ONE-SET sketch (just the kitchen!)- the rest of the apartment would have to be "seen" in the viewers' and studio audience's minds. Certainly Audrey Meadows did...her description of that bedroom is fascinating! If this is how "Alice" saw it.....then that's how it was.

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...the Kramden's bedroom, he would have done so at the very beginning of the
"Honeymooners" sketches on "CAVALCADE OF STARS" in 1951-'52. But this was a ONE-SET sketch (just the kitchen!)- the rest of the apartment would have to be "seen" in the viewers' and studio audience's minds. Certainly Audrey Meadows did...her description of that bedroom is fascinating! If this is how "Alice" saw it.....then that's how it was.

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I know it was a sad looking bedroom-lol

...the Kramden's bedroom, he would have done so at the very beginning of the
"Honeymooners" sketches on "CAVALCADE OF STARS" in 1951-'52. But this was a ONE-SET sketch (just the kitchen!)- the rest of the apartment would have to be "seen" in the viewers' and studio audience's minds. Certainly Audrey Meadows did...her description of that bedroom is fascinating!
The whole mystery behind the Kramden's bedroom has always fascinated me, and I think if Gleason knew how many people wanted to see it back then, he might have shown it to us. I remember watching the Honeymooners when I was a kid and hoping the camera would go a little too far to the left so I could catch a glimpse of the bed or something. Ah, the good old days.

If this is how "Alice" saw it.....then that's how it was.
Ralph and Alice didn't always see things eye to eye though. ;)

The whole mystery behind the Kramden's bedroom has always fascinated me, and I think if Gleason knew how many people wanted to see it back then, he might have shown it to us. I remember watching the Honeymooners when I was a kid and hoping the camera would go a little too far to the left so I could catch a glimpse of the bed or something. Ah, the good old days.


Ralph and Alice didn't always see things eye to eye though. ;)

I always wanted to see there bathroom-lol

I always wished I could've seen the Kramdens' bedroom too. I kept hoping that someday, I'd find an ep where we could finally SEE the bedroom.

I also always wondered if they ever had anything more than the kitchen and bedroom. I presume they did have their own bathroom.....Hmmm....and what about a living room, did they ever make a reference to that?

I also always wondered if they ever had anything more than the kitchen and bedroom. I presume they did have their own bathroom.....Hmmm....and what about a living room, did they ever make a reference to that?
Well they obviously had a bathroom, they've made reference to it on a few occasions, when sending their guests in to "wash up," etc. Also, in the lost episode "Principle Of The Thing," Ralph and Norton actually take out the bathtub and replace it with a more "comfortable" one. As for a living room, well, the kitchen was the living room.

We get to see the Norton's bedroom in "The Sleepwalker," and the only other doorway visible is the entrance to the bathroom, so assuming both apartments were modeled the same way, I'd say the Kramden's wasn't much different...with the exception of the furniture of course. As a matter of fact, the Kramden's apartment was actually modeled after Gleason's real life apartment in Brooklyn, in which I've heard the bathtub was in the kitchen! So I guess you can see where the "my wife's taking a bath in the sink" joke originated from...:lol: