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kadrmas15 06-30-2006, 08:41 AM Most people wont want to do this but anyone in here that is interested in writing to prisoners profiled on UM I have some addresses. If you write to these people you do so at your own risk. Personally if I was going to write to a prisoner I would probably get a P.O. Box just to be safe. Especially for some of these more violent ones I wouldnt use my home address. If there is any particular prisoner you want just pm me and I will give you the address that way.
crystaldawn 06-30-2006, 09:05 AM Wow all of those you listed are such sleaze, I wouldn't write to any of them. :lol: To each his own though and it would be interesting if someone wanted to write them and hopefully if any of you decide to and get a reply you'll post the info here.
Another one to add to the list, Jon Yount. For those of you who aren't familiar with that case (I don't know if Lifetime has ever aired it) he's the former teacher who raped and murdered one of his students. He started to correspond with a married woman and she fell for him and helped him escape. They were both eventually captured.
http://www.prisoners.com/yountad1.html
kadrmas15 06-30-2006, 09:32 AM Yes Jon Yount I dont think I have even seen that case. Yount is getting up there in years. 68 years old, he was born on February 26th, 1938. This case I am assuming took place in the 1970's?
LooksLikeCRicci 06-30-2006, 12:30 PM Swango would be an interesting read... just sayin'.
I'm glad you added the disclaimer about getting a P.O. Box for the purposes of writing these people...
kadrmas15 06-30-2006, 05:02 PM Swango would be interesting, I agree. A lot of these people would be interesting. Since Kane was nice enough to track down Rick Church I decided to find his address. Church looks pretty much the same but he has aged a lot.
nohwheregirl 06-30-2006, 05:18 PM Do what you want, but I do have a question....
Why would you want to give any of these people any more attention or ego boosting that they deserve by writing to them?
kadrmas15 06-30-2006, 05:23 PM Well I think being profiled on UM would give anyone more than enough attention. Not trying to be a smartass with that remark. Also I am not planning to write to any of these people. I have written to prisoners before but no one on that list. I guess the way I view it despite the horrible things they have done I still view them as human beings and generally when I write them I dont talk about the crimes much with them, I talk more about life in general with them. I was just posting them because there are people out there that like to write to prisoners. I thought there might be a couple on here.
Awsi Dooger 06-30-2006, 05:26 PM Hmmm, of those I would probably write to John Mooney. Seemed like an intelligent guy and maybe I could wrangle a pizza recipe out of it.
Whoever writes to Swango, be nice and include some homemade cookies.
kadrmas15 06-30-2006, 05:31 PM Mooney would be interesting. A college educated guy, a guy who ordered the killing of someone but who has never actually killed someone himself. As for Swango, if you are going to write him you better not send him any special donughts or extra spicy chicken. Paul Hamwi is in the category too of never having killed anyone but having ordered a killing. Although to this day he claims he didnt do it. Hamwi was convicted of ordering and paying for the killing of his soon to be ex-wife. He supposedly did this because he didnt want to have to pay her alimony. His infant daughter wasnt killed but was left in the house alone and the baby ended up dying of dehydration. However Hamwi who was also charged with the baby's death was acquitted in that case. Hamwi wasnt even indicted in the murder of his wife until 10 years after it happened.
DarkDante 06-30-2006, 06:38 PM Hmmm, of those I would probably write to John Mooney. Seemed like an intelligent guy and maybe I could wrangle a pizza recipe out of it.
Whoever writes to Swango, be nice and include some homemade cookies.
I wanna know whose pizza exactly was it?
DD
greatgarrett2 07-01-2006, 12:45 AM I wanna know whose pizza exactly was it?
DD
HA! HA! HA! HA! I don't know who's pizza it was but it was somebody's :lol:
A prisoner I would write but hasn't been profiled on UM would be Joel Rifkin.....The so-called 'Long Island Serial Killer', seems like an interesting guy to talk to, down to earth in his Biography interview. I'm amazed at how he could describe his crimes and shrug them off like taking out the trash.
kadrmas15 07-01-2006, 05:15 AM Joel Rifkin would be another interesting one. When I was in high school in my psychology class we watched this special on Joel Rifkin where they interviewed him. He was quite the interesting character. Rifkin didnt seem like a psycho. He said a majority of the time he was fine and felt normal, he said during his killing streak sometimes months would go by where he didnt have the urge to kill anyone and he would be with prostitutes and be fine and stuff and then all of a sudden it would just come back and he would go on a streak where he would kill, two or three women and then it would stop again for a while. Rifkin actually said this started happening after his adopotive father's death. Despite the fact him and his father never had a real good relationship because his father who was a prominent businessman and school board member on Long Island viewed Joel as a disappointment because of his bad grades and inability to stick to a job for very long. Joel however loved his father deeply despite this. But Joel said shortly after the first anniversary of his father's death he started getting the urges to kill. He said they always happened after major annivesaries of stuff. It was pretty interesting. I remember Joel Rifkin's excuse for the killings was "my brain made me do it." Rifkin actually said that, I think he also cited the fact he was dyslexic as a reason for the killings.
kadrmas15 07-01-2006, 05:47 AM Well Joel Rifkin has a life without parole sentence. Rifkin was born on January 20th, 1959.
Mark David Chapman was sentenced to life in prison however he was sentenced before there was life without parole sentences in NY. At the time he was sentenced the minimum sentence in NY for murder before becoming eligible for parole was 20 years. Chapman first became eligible for parole on December 4th, 2000. Chapman has already been denied parole a couple of times and he is up for parole again in October of this year when he has another hearing. It says his earliest possible release date is October 28th of 2006. However this is if he gets parole. Chapman would have been released already had the killing not been so high profile. Chapman will be released eventually but they are holding him longer than they normally would because no one wants to be the person that released the killer of John Lennon. Chapman was born on May 10th, 1955.
David Berkowitz was sentenced to life in prison. However like Chapman he is eligible for parole because he was sentenced before they had life without parole sentences. At the time Berkowitz was sentenced in the late 70's for all the crimes he was convicted of a minimum of 25 years had to be served before being eligible for parole. Berkowitz first became eligible for parole on August 5th, 2002. Berkowitz has already been denied parole twice. I think once Berkowitz even asked not to be released. Berkowitz has another parole hearing scheduled for later this month and his earliest possible release date is July 28th of this month. Berkowitz was born on June 1st, 1953.
kadrmas15 07-01-2006, 06:28 AM Well I found the scumbag that raped and then murdered Keri Lynn Nixon. This is the only one I could find in the NY Department of Corrections that matched the description. Bank Robber Robert Jones confessed in 1994 to raping and then murdering Keri Lynn Nixon and then burying her body in a remote area. Now this guy I found in the NY department of corrections matched the description of the guy. This guy just started serving the sentence for the murder b ut remember a few months before he confessed he had been sentenced to 15 years in prison for armed robbery. It wasnt until 1994 that he confessed to raping and then murdering Keri Lynn Nixon. In exchange for his help in locating the body (Jones was the only one who knew exactly where it was buried) Jones got a lucreative plea deal. Jones pled guilty to 2nd degree murder, 1st degree kidnapping and 1st degree rape. You might say what is so lucreative about this? Well, Jones pled guilty b ut because he helped find the body, the prosecutor agreed to run his sentences for that concurrent to his sentence for the armed robbery. The minimum sentence for the crimes Jones pled guilty to in regards to Nixon is 18 years according to 1987 sentencing guidelines. Jones's sentence on the armed robbery was 15 yeras meaning that sentence the sentence was concurrent even though the maximum sentence for Jones crimes involving Nixon is life, he would be eligible for parole after 18 years, meaning after the bank robbery sentence is done Jones could end up doing as little as three additional years before being eligible for parole. It is kind of complicated. Here is a link to the story I found on it, you have to scroll down some but it does desribe a little bit about the crime. Not a lot but a little more than what was in the UM segment.
http://archive.pressrepublican.com/Archive/1999/11_1999/112119992.htm
kadrmas15 07-01-2006, 06:36 AM Robert A. Jones was born on August 29th, 1963. Jones was just transferred to a new facility in May. Jones will be first eligible for parole in October of 2011. His earliest release date is December 29th, 2011.
greatgarrett2 07-02-2006, 12:44 AM Here are some more addresses, I dont know if any of these cases were ever on UM.
Joel Rifkin #95A6514
Clinton Correctional Facility
P.O. Box 2001
Dannemora, NY 12929
Mark D. Chapman #81A3860
Attica Correctional Facility
Box 149, Exchange St
Attica, NY 14011-0149
David Berkowitz #78A1976
Sullivan Correctional Facility
Box 116, Riverside Drive
Fallsburg, NY 12733-0116
I don't think Rifkin was ever on UM but he was on a good Biography segment and a men's magazine did an article on him. You have to wonder what went wrong inside his head for him to commit those crimes. Was it the constant merciless abuse of his peers, his dyslexia or another factor such as an ab-normal brain? At one time Rifkin wanted to take part in a study on brain ab-normalities, I've read in a book. I will never forget his enigmatic quote he wrote from his jailcell in 1993:
"I will in all probability be convicted, but I will not go away as a monster, but as a tragedy"
It's a tragedy, indeed. I've contemplated writing him, but I think I'd get a PO Box first just to play it safe.
kadrmas15 07-02-2006, 07:53 AM Yeah, about the P.O. Box if that is what you feel comfortable with do it. If you had a P.O. Box you could pretty much write to anyone that you wanted to in prison. Some people dont care and just use their home address. But personally I would say if you are in doubt and feel better with a P.O. Box then get one. Always go with your gut. Rifkin is most certainly an interesting character and I have heard he suffered a head injury when he was a kid and his mom said he was never completely the same after that. It just goes to show that head injuries have been shown to play a role. How much of a role they actually play is unknown. There has been a connection shown between head injuries and serial killers but it really isnt know if the killers play up their head injuries more to take the blame off themselves. John Wayne Gacy and Marvin Gabrion both suffered several head injuries as young men in accidents. Joel Rifkin also suffered a head injury as a little kid. Rifkin's mother blamed three or four things on Rifkin's killing spree which by the way didnt start until Rifkin was 30 years old, unusually old for a serial killer. Rifkin's mother blamed his dyslexia, the constant teasing by his peers when he was in school and the fact that when he was in his twenties he felt rejected by women because the only women he had ever had sex with were prostitutes and she blamed his head injury. Although Gacy didnt start killing until 1972 when he was 30 years old as well. Or so he claimed. It isnt know when Gacy started killing exactly but Gacy said he didnt start killing until 1972. Ted Bundy was one that didnt suffer a head injury. Although Bundy often acted hurt, he was often seen wearing neck braces and arm slings to make himself look vulnerable. Bundy I believe was 27 when his first documented killings took place although they believe he started killing much earlier. They think his first killing took place as far back as 1961 when Bundy was 15. That year a 9 year old girl disappeared from her house in Tacoma, Washington and she lived just 10 blocks from where Bundy and his family lived. She was never found but it was found that she was taken because an intruder had entered through her unlocked bedroom window. Bundy as it was later found often got into his victims bedrooms through unlocked windows. It was later found that the 9 year old girl and Bundy had in fact know each other. There was another killing in 1963 in Seattle when Bundy would have been 17 that they think he did too because it matched his style. It was a woman in her early twenties.
kadrmas15 07-02-2006, 08:14 AM Well first with Bundy, he always denied any involvement in the 9 year old girls disappearance and presumed death. However many investigators feel that this was his first kill. I was also wrong about the date of the 2nd killing they think he was involved in. It wasnt 1963 but rather in 1966 in Seattle. Bundy would have been 20 at the time. The women were in their early twenties. One was beaten to the death, the other one was beaten severely but survived. A third roomate was the one that found them. Bundy later refused to confess to the murder and attack in 1966 but he didnt deny it either. Bundy is also thought to have committed a murder of a 24 year old Burlington, Vermont woman in Vermont in 1971 when Bundy would have been 25. This was Bundy's birthplace and the murder took place in July of 1971 when ironically enough Ted Bundy had gone to Burlington to visit the area. Bundy was also thought to have committed two additional unsolved murders in Washington state in 1974 other than the ones he has confessed to. Bundy was also thought to have committed two murders in Oregon in the summer of 1973.
kadrmas15 07-02-2006, 08:32 AM Sorry about rambling about Bundy, I have just always found him interesting for some reason. In late 1988 Bundy was trying to delay his January 1989 execution so he started confessing to murders that had been unsolved. Bundy said he would reveal more about the murders and more about where the remains were of missing bodies if he was given a stay of execution. Officials in Florida decided against this and he was executed on schedule. I think this was a mistake because I think Bundy could have been of great help. Bundy actually was for a long time thought to have committed the murder of a 15 year old girl that was hitchhiking in Oregon in November of 1973. Despite confessing to numerous other unsolved murders Bundy always denied any involvement with that 15 year old girls death. Turns out Bundy was telling the truth. It wasnt until March of 2002 that the true killer was arrested when DNA preserved from the case matched that of William Cosden, Cosden was tried and convicted.
greatgarrett2 07-02-2006, 03:43 PM Sorry about rambling about Bundy, I have just always found him interesting for some reason.
That's OK. I always find True Crime interesting and intriguing. Especially when Bundy helped, I think it was Robert Keppel, of the Green River task force, hunt for 'The Riverman'. It was amazing that Ted Bundy apparently knew how the killer thought and acted from his own experience. I own the book 'The Riverman: Ted Bundy and I Hunt for the Green River Killer'. There is no better way to get inside a mind of a killer than with the aid of a killer himself IMO.
Ted Bundy helped law enforcement in ways that 'conventional' law enforcement couldn't have done. I think they should've given him a stay of execution too in the fact that if he WAS telling the truth, he could've pin-pointed more bodies. On the other hand, it could've been just a ploy to postpone death.....but he had nothing to loose by confessing to more murders, tho.
kadrmas15 07-03-2006, 08:35 AM Yeah Bundy helped them. I know the detectives complained that Bundy really helped very little with that investigation and that they didnt think he would help them much even before they went to interview him. They said they interveiwed him mainly because they felt that the Green River Killer and Bundy thought a lot a like and they learned a lot about Bundy and his train of thought through the interviews so apperantly on that end at least they were satisfied.
kadrmas15 07-03-2006, 08:39 AM I still cant believe that the guy who raped and murdered Keri Lynn Nixon got a rather light sentence like that. Although I think her parents said they felt justice was served. I think they said they just cared more about finding their daughter's remains so that they could give her a proper burial and so that they could move on with their lives. I think they moved to Florida not to long after they buried her. But they gave the okay on the prosecution plea deal because they didnt care what Jones got for a sentence as long as they could find their daughter and give her the right burial. Jones will be eligible for parole in 2011.
kadrmas15 07-03-2006, 02:59 PM Wanted to do a quick update. In today's episode Craig Walker was profilied because he kidnapped his kids and then fled the country. Well at the end you saw the update they were found alive and well and returned to their mother. Was glad to see it. However I did some research into Craig Walker to see whatever happened to him. Turns out he pled guilty and did time in federal prison. Walker ended up doing about three years in federal prison. Walker was released from federal prison on February 26th, 2004. Walker was inmate No. 18854-076.
dynoguy88 07-03-2006, 05:29 PM Hearing Ted Bundy's name still gives me chills. One of his murder victims, Karen Campbell, was the sister of a dear friend of mine. I see her every Sunday at church and she has always been like a second mother to me. Karen was killed in 1975, 5 years before I was born, but it still hits close to home because she was from my city and I'm so close with her family. My parents went to her funeral.
Karen's story happened like this. In October 1975, she was 25 years old and she went on a vacation with her fiance and his son to a ski resort in Colorado. The three left their hotel room and went down stairs to the swimming pool. Once they got downstairs, however, Karen realized that she forgot her magazine in the hotel room so she went back to get it. She never returned.
As is turns out, with awful timing, she and Bundy crossed paths. He pretended to be injured with a broken leg while on crutches and asked her to help him carry his books to his room. When she did, he beat her to death, drove her a couple miles from the hotel and dumped her body to the side of the road.
I'm actually kind of glad I wasn't born yet to witness the sadness that so many close friends of mine had to go through when this happened. But things have been well with the family despite this tragic incident. At Bundy's trial, Karen's family members each faced him in the court room and told him "I forgive you." They said they had to do that because they didn't want to live the rest of their lives filled with anger and hate. That's no way to live. I admire them for that but if, God forbid, I was in a sitaution like that, I don't know if I could be as forgiving.
Karen's sister Nancy (my second mom) is doing very well these days. She has two sons who are happily married and 2 healthy grandchildren. I see her every week and greatly admire the inner strength she has.
SiberianKiss 07-04-2006, 03:18 AM dynoguy that is SO ridiculously sad :(
If I were to send any unsolved mystery criminal a letter, I'd write to Jesse James Hollywood who is from my area and so I know the story well. I'd ask him about his life on the run, and what did he do when he became a fugitive and came back to California. How did his dad make him disappear and get him out of the country? Where did he go first and how did he get to Brazil? And what was it like living as a fugitive. And how on Earth did his father send his son $1200 a month without the Feds getting wise when surely they knew Jack Hollywood was hiding his son and were surely watching him and monitoring his calls. And how was Jesse James caught eventually. What led to his capture?
of course he probably wouldn't answer any of that but anyway fugitive stories interest me.
kadrmas15 07-04-2006, 09:35 PM Yeah, I dont know it depends on the prisoner. What prison is Jesse James Hollywood even in? A lot of times when people write the prisoners they dont even talk very much about the crimes if at all. A lot of times people write to these prisoners and just talk about life and stuff. But it depends on the prisoner. Some wouldnt mind talking about their crimes and others wont want to talk about it. But there are some that especially if you tell them you think they are innocent they will spout off about the crimes and how they didnt do it. I am honestly thinking about writing to Paul Hamwi because I am not sure if he had anything to do with his wife's death or not. Hamwi was found guilty of conspiring to murder his wife. Hamwi was alleged to have paid Paul Serio 14 thousand dollars to murder his soon to be ex wife back in 1983. Hamwi however was acquitted in the death of his daughter who wasnt murdered but died of dehydration because she was left alone in the house after her mother was murdered. Hamwi wasnt indicted in the murder of his wife until 10 years after the fact and has always claimed he is innocent. Hamwi was found guilty in 1994 and was sentenced to life. Hamwi will be eligible for parole in 2019 when he will be 74 years old.
kadrmas15 07-04-2006, 09:44 PM Some others I would be interesting in writing. Eddie Wooten and John Mooney would be two others. Mooney was sentenced to life but I am sure that was before they had life without parole sentences so I wonder when Mooney will be up for parole? Mooney would probably be out already if he hadnt escaped from prison and been on the run for 9 years. I am sure Mooney either already has been or will soon be eligible for parole. Elmo Florence has been denied parole in the past. Eddie Wooten will be eligible for parole within the next few years. It says 2019 as Wooten's parole eligiblity but I dont think that is right. Even though he was sentenced to life I think that is his release date. Wooten was sentenced before the mandatory 25 year sentence law for first degree murder was passed in TN. According to 1991 Tennessee law, an offender that was sentenced for first degree murder was eligible for parole after 19 and a half years. This would make Wooten eligible for parole around 2012, 2013.
kadrmas15 07-17-2006, 05:22 PM Well I did some research into the case of Ted Binion and found that Rick Tabish and Sandra Murphy were convicted of murder and other charges in his case back in 2000. However in 2003 the murder conviction along with the convictions of grand larceny and robbery were overturned and in a re-trial both Tabish and Murphy were acquitted of the charges. The charges of extortion, conspiracy to commit a violent crime, and false imprisonment were not over turned against the two and there was also a charge of use of a deadly weapon that was not overturned against Tabish. Sandra Murphy was released when her sentence expired a few months back. Tabish is still on prison on the charge of use of a deadly weapon. The other charges he was in on that werent overturned he has already served the full sentence on so the only thing keeping him in prison is the use of a deadly weapon charge. Tabish is due to be released on November 1st, 2010 if he is not paroled before that time. Tabish is due to become eligible for parole on April 1st, 2009. Not bad for the fact that him and Murphy murdered Binion got convicted only to have their convictions overturned on a technicality.
Awsi Dooger 07-17-2006, 06:19 PM Well I did some research into the case of Ted Binion and found that Rick Tabish and Sandra Murphy were convicted of murder and other charges in his case back in 2000. However in 2003 the murder conviction along with the convictions of grand larceny and robbery were overturned and in a re-trial both Tabish and Murphy were acquitted of the charges. The charges of extortion, conspiracy to commit a violent crime, and false imprisonment were not over turned against the two and there was also a charge of use of a deadly weapon that was not overturned against Tabish. Sandra Murphy was released when her sentence expired a few months back. Tabish is still on prison on the charge of use of a deadly weapon. The other charges he was in on that werent overturned he has already served the full sentence on so the only thing keeping him in prison is the use of a deadly weapon charge. Tabish is due to be released on November 1st, 2010 if he is not paroled before that time. Tabish is due to become eligible for parole on April 1st, 2009. Not bad for the fact that him and Murphy murdered Binion got convicted only to have their convictions overturned on a technicality.
I appreciated your last sentence. Murder indeed. I followed both trials day to day and there was no question in my mind. Somehow the second jury rejected Michael Baden's burking hypothesis.
What ticked me off beyond description was when Sandy Murphy appeared on Larry King's program and they brought on that blonde psychotherapist Dr. Robi Ludwig, who appears from time to time. I generally like her but in this case she hadn't done her homework at all. She stated it was a clear overdose case and was shocked Murphy/Tabish had been convicted in the first place. What rubbish. Everything they did screamed they were together on that day and committed foul play, from sending home the maid to the lack of phone calls between one another. I could go on and on. Judge Bonaventure made two basic errors in the first trial which eventually allowed two murderers to walk.
kadrmas15 07-17-2006, 06:37 PM Yeah that does stink when a judge's error leads to people getting their convictions overturned and sometimes even acquitted in a re trial. I imagine this case was HUGE in Vegas considering Binion's casino is huge in Vegas although not nearly as huge as it once was but still famous none the less. I am interested in a lot of Vegas stuff I am even considering transferring to UNLV. I cant believe they are going to be tearing down the Stardust in a few months! Apperantly in Vegas they are going after those resort mega Casino's and getting rid of all the old casino's in favor of corporate casino's. I dont know if I like that but oh well UNLV is lookin good. Vegas is my kind of town.
kadrmas15 07-19-2006, 09:58 AM A couple more, if anyone has any others to look up I would be happy too: Here is Jeffery MacDonald the doctor who was convicted of murdering his wife and two children. I was never quite sure that he in fact did this. There are some unanswered questions but even if he did do it the evidence against him was shaky at best. MacDonald is in federal prison and has been for over twenty years. MacDonald is now 62 years old. MacDonald is currently serving his time at the Cumberland Federal Correctional Institution in Western Maryland. MacDonald's release date is April 5th, 2071. Obviously unless his conviction is overturned he will not be getting out, MacDonald would be like 127 years old at his release date. To this day MacDonald claims he is innocent and is constantly working on appeals.
SitcomsAreTheWay 07-19-2006, 10:23 AM No thanks, I'll pass.
kadrmas15 07-19-2006, 11:58 AM Here is the guy that killed Ethel Kidd in Virginia in 1988 or 1989. Very gruesome. Edward Wayne Beverly is currently in prison, I believe he got a life sentence, I know he isnt on death row.
Crystaldawn and I debated on another board about what this guy's sentence was, since Virginia's department of corrections only gives inmates I.D. numbers and locations but really not much else. Well I do know Beverly is not on death row. I looked up Virginia's death row and there are currently 22 people on it but Beverly is not one of them and the prison where the death row is, is not even the same prison Beverly is in. Beverly is in Red Onion State Prison which is the prison used for the most dangerous offenders that have not been sentenced to death. My guess is that Beverly must have pled guilty. Although I did see a court appeal document online but I didnt get to read it. Appearantly Beverly pled guilty and is now trying to weasle his way out of it. My guess is he got sentenced to life although since he was sentenced under guidelines from the time of the murder my guess is he will be eligible for parole at some point. Personally I wouldnt have minded seeing him get death for what he did to Ethel. I will never forget in the segment where that hunter comes across her body tied to a tree.
kadrmas15 07-19-2006, 01:04 PM I did some more research. I tried to track down Larry Gibson the Oregon sheriff's deputy who was convicted of manslaughter in the accidental death of his son and then his getting rid of the body to cover up the crime. Apperantly it was theorized that Gibson who was off duty was about to go for a jog when he saw a cat and for whatever reason used his service revolver and shot the cat, what apperantly happened was the bullet passed through the cat and struck and killed Larry's son Tommy who was playing in the front yard. Apperantly Larry went out on his jog and when he returned home he discovered his son's body in the front yard and realized he had accidently shot his son. Apperantly Larry panicked and instead of calling for help or calling the authorities he apperantly put his son's body in the trunk of his patrol car. Later that day when the authorities came and everyone was off searching, Larry who had been told not to report to work, put his uniform on and left the property in his patrol car for about half an hour. He claimed he went off to search, but the cops think that he took this time to take his son's body to an unknown location and bury him. Shortly after this incident, Larry became the prime suspect in his son's disapperance, and he was put on paid leave by the sheriff's department. Larry ended up resigning from the sheriff's department a few weeks later and eventually moved to Montana to avoid the media attention he was getting in the pacific northwest. In 1994 Larry was indicted in his son's death and in 1995 was convicted of 2nd degree manslaughter. Larry was sentenced to 18 months in prison but was released in 1996 after serving about a year. Larry has always claimed he was innocent and had nothing to do with his son's disapperance or persumed death. Any thought on this case?
My guess is he got sentenced to life although since he was sentenced under guidelines from the time of the murder my guess is he will be eligible for parole at some point.
If that is the case, then let's hope it's not in the near future. I don't mean to sound ageist, but I would hope that Edward Beverly's potential parole is such a long time away that if he is eventually let out of prison, he will need geriatric aids and/or oxygen to be a menace to society.
I wouldnt have minded seeing him get death for what he did to Ethel. I will never forget in the segment where that hunter comes across her body tied to a tree.
I wouldn't have minded, either.
kadrmas15 07-19-2006, 03:17 PM Hey, well I looked up Randall Utterback and found that this guy is still on the run! He is one of Missouri's most wanted. I honestly cant believe he has been on the run for over 10 years now. I think his parents are supporting him but that is just me. This guy has some mental issues, obviously he wasnt popular with the ladies. For him to be 31 and dating an 18 year old. This guy is crazy but not stupid. I bet he is in a completley different part of that country doing this same crap to someone else. Here are two links I found on him:
http://www.missourinet.com/wanted/fu...ck_randall.htm
http://members.socket.net/~audrainsh...utterback.html
dlemond 07-19-2006, 03:20 PM This thread should be deleted.
And if you write to any of these F-er listed, you should get your head examined.
kadrmas15 07-19-2006, 04:05 PM I dont write to them actually. I have not written to a single one of them on here. I am sorry that you dont like it, a lot of these guys I would never consider writing to. However I just figured that someone might, there are acutally a lot of people that write to prisoners out there you would be surprised. I dont blame some people for being offended, what a lot of these guys did was so horrible it is beyond words. However they are human beings at the same time. Why should my thread be deleted? Because you dont like it? As I have always said, if you dont like something you read dont respond to it.
kadrmas15 07-19-2006, 04:09 PM That is what makes this country great, is the write to free speech, the right as long as you arent threatening to harm anyone to post pretty much anything you want, no matter how out there or how offensive it may be. I was actually doing these addresses as a matter of getting conversation about the cases started, not so much because I thought anyone on the board would see these addresses and actually write to any of these guys. If they do, they do so at their own risk, I have plainly stated that. I even made a disclaimer about that very subject when I started the thread so that when people like you would come on here and spew your stuff that you couldnt say I didnt warn people about the possible but unlikely danger. Again, I see you are a moderator, I dont mean any disrespect towards you, but you started it and hopefully the fight is over now. But I had to let you know my side of it and the reason I started this thread in the first place.
dlemond 07-19-2006, 05:03 PM That is what makes this country great, is the write to free speech, the right as long as you arent threatening to harm anyone to post pretty much anything you want, no matter how out there or how offensive it may be. I was actually doing these addresses as a matter of getting conversation about the cases started, not so much because I thought anyone on the board would see these addresses and actually write to any of these guys. If they do, they do so at their own risk, I have plainly stated that. I even made a disclaimer about that very subject when I started the thread so that when people like you would come on here and spew your stuff that you couldnt say I didnt warn people about the possible but unlikely danger. Again, I see you are a moderator, I dont mean any disrespect towards you, but you started it and hopefully the fight is over now. But I had to let you know my side of it and the reason I started this thread in the first place.
Disclaimer, whatever.
It's plain wrong. The moderator thing has nothing to do with anything.
Can you actually see more good than harm being done with this thread?
I see bad things.
This is all wrong.
I don't think I've ever seen anything more wrong on this site than this thread.
mphs95 07-19-2006, 06:41 PM dlemond, you may not like this thread, but other people have continued to respond to it. I see your point about the bad things, but rudely dissing other people's opinions, and others who might decide to write to a prisoner profiled on here, is not cool, even with the best intentions at heart. Can we all agree to disagree and move on now?
noah82 07-19-2006, 11:56 PM What prison is Jesse James Hollywood even in?
He's probably in the county jail where the crime happened, eagerly awaiting trail. Unless he was already found guilty and then he's probably @ San Quentin, Pelican Bay or some other maximum security prison in California.
Regardless of the why this thread was initiated (free speech, soft-heartedness for criminals, etc.), the topic is obviously not well-received on this board. And since this is a message board for a crimefighting show, this is evidently not the best place to promote the idea of writing to prisoners. Chances are, there are those viewing this site who happen to be crime victims themselves, or are related to a crime victim. So they may consider the subject of writing to prisoners inappropriate for this board.
Just so that there's no misunderstanding here, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of writing to a prisoner. If you wish to do so, that's your business. But do so with caution. Since many criminals in prison are dangerous, you never know what's on their mind.
kadrmas15 07-20-2006, 01:44 PM Well, here is what I am going to do: I knew there would be some offense, but I had no idea that this would happen. I am not going to delete the thread. However, I am going to edit the posts I made so that I take the addresses out, so that it only has the update of where the prisoners are and when they will be eligible for parole. Whether or not that will make a difference remains to be seen. When I made this thread, I did not take into account that people who were not only victims of crime but people whose relatives may have actually been profiled on UM may actually be viewing this board, I believe in at least a few instances this has happened. I was not intentionally insensitive and I apologize for that. If anyone actually wants any of the addresses of these people, just sent me a pm, and I will send them to you that way, I am sorry for subjecting the whole board to that, I will edit the addresses out and hopefully I will have that done in the next couple of hours.
kadrmas15 07-21-2006, 03:39 PM Well William Jordan is still on the run and is still wanted by the FBI, I posted a link to the wanted poster the FBI has on him in the updates thread. In terms of Anthony Prevatte, what a career criminal this guy is, I am glad he got death in North Carolina, he certainly deserves it, not just because of the crime, but because he basically he got lucky in getting paroled after first being sentenced to death, but having his sentence commuted to life on a technicality. According to Prevatte's file at the North Carolina Department of Corrections, Prevatte was paroled in 1991 after serving 17 years of a life sentence. I dont know if that is right but that is what it says here. Prevatte then moved back to North Carolina where after just two years on parole he was arrested for the kidnapping and murder of his girlfriend on June 1st, 1993. Prevatte was sentenced to death on February 22nd, 1995 and has been there ever since. Prevatte is currently 56 years old and was born on December 23rd, 1949. Prevatte is currently on North Carolina's death row which is in the Central Prison in Raleigh, North Carolina.
kadrmas15 08-06-2006, 08:11 PM I did a look to see the update on the men responsible for the 1987 murder of Atlanta Socialite Lita Sullivan. The hitman Phillip Harwood was arrested earlier this decade and took a plea bargain where he pled guilty to voluntary manslaughter and agreed to testify against James Sullivan. Harwood was sentenced in 2003 to twenty years in prison. Harwood it looks like is due to be paroled in May of 2017 and is due to be released on May 25th, 2018 if he is not released before that time. Harwood is now 55 years old and is currently serving his time at the Georgia State Prison in Reidsville, Georgia. Sullivan is now 65 years old and in March of this year began serving a life without parole sentence for murder. Sullivan is in the same prison as Harwood.
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