Obviously, this is a rhetorical question, because if the thread is gone, it's because it got deleted by a mod. But WTF? I'm wondering why a MODERATOR can repeatedly flame members & get by with it. And then when said moderator's actions are questioned in a mature manner (UNLIKE SAID MODERATOR'S FLAMES!), the thread is pulled? I've been ripped a new one more than once here & NEVER reported it or asked that it be pulled. If I feel I'm in the wrong, I have the gonads to say so & apologize. I post my replies, use the "ignore member" button, when warranted & move on. I would expect as much from a moderator.

You people just never stop. :rolleyes:

You people just never stop. :rolleyes:

I made a simple non flame post on Chit Chat and it got pulled. Before you critisize you might wonder what goes on behind the scenes.

Red Whine (gonna have to kick my own ass for this but)

I agree 100% and more because of the complete lack of respect that Savage was given by another mod when she tried to calm things.


Please note there is no flames or fictional information in this post so there really should be no need to shut it down. We should have a right to express displeasure.

You people just never stop. :rolleyes:

Tell me about it. :lol:

Tell me about it. :lol:

Here comes the guest of honor to show his total and utter disrespect for the Moderator here. You are a stand up guy.

Tell me about it. :lol:

Mr. Class and all his clever snide remarks. Wonder what the qualifications are to be a moderator? Can't be more then tubes and life support.

Harvey

Here comes the guest of honor to show his total and utter disrespect for the Moderator here. You are a stand up guy.

You just don't get it do you? I guess your "Non Flame" thread entitled "Brain Damaged is an A$$ was sweet and innocent? :lol: How about "I am ready to take this to his turf." Huh? lol What turf? You do realize this is a message board don't you. I retired last night, but you guys just won't let it go and when someone reacts to it, you cry. You can dish it, but can't take it.

Mr. Class and all his clever snide remarks. Wonder what the qualifications are to be a moderator? Can't be more then tubes and life support.

Harvey

Careful Harv he will go crying to his friends and they will close the post. Only he is allowed to start fights

Careful Harv he will go crying to his friends and they will close the post. Only he is allowed to start fights


The only one crying is you big boy er or girl.

The thread in question was deleted by savageamusement.

Creating a thread solely to bash another member is against the rules. There was another thread made on Chit Chat that was pulled for the same reason. I'd hardly call a thread with the title "Brain Damaged - 100% First Class A$$" a non flame post. How would you feel if a thread like that was created about savageamusement or another well respected member? If you want to discuss this privately, feel free to contact me.

Everyone was a little guilty in the other threads. Brian Damage definitely should have handled things differently. I told him that.. but so could everybody else in that thread instead of continuing the fight. It could have been reported. The instinct is just to continue the fight until it gets broken up by the referee. Solomon started a thread and was basically ridiculed in 3 different threads. Brian stood up for him, as any good friend would do, and then all hell broke loose. The insults were flying left and right. I can't ask a moderator not to defend himself.

And just so everyone knows, the only moderators that can close/open, edit threads on the Trading Post are savageamusement, combsisthebest, and the admins. There are no "Super Moderators" here that have power across all boards.

This really needs to end once and for all, everybody just needs to move on to something else. Any further threads on the subject will just be deleted. I've never seen 2 groups of people on a message board act so differently. Can't everybody just get along? If you don't like somebody, just ignore them. Don't talk about them behind their backs and make sarcastic remarks. If you continually ridicule someone, you are looking for trouble.

I can take it there just has not been anything dished out on your end aside from getting people to close posts because you can't take the heat.

I can take it there just has not been anything dished out on your end aside from getting people to close posts because you can't take the heat.

I don't need help unlike you :lol:

Gentlemen.. please let's not go through what we went through last night. Let's agree to disagree and stop with the flame wars.

TJ

Your board, your rules and I will end it here.

The thread in question was deleted by savageamusement.

But was it HER choice to do so?

Creating a thread solely to bash another member is against the rules. There was another thread made on Chit Chat that was pulled for the same reason. I'd hardly call a thread with the title "Brain Damaged - 100% First Class A$$" a non flame post.

The thread I'm referring to was right here in Trading Post & the subject line was "Moderating".

Brian Damage definitely should have handled things differently. I told him that.. but so could everybody else in that thread instead of continuing the fight. It could have been reported.

It was. I know this for a fact as I did so myself. Yet Brian continued (as he is now) on with his put downs. Hardly the behaviour of someone who is (in theory) supposed to be setting an example.

The thread in question was deleted by savageamusement.

Creating a thread solely to bash another member is against the rules. There was another thread made on Chit Chat that was pulled for the same reason. I'd hardly call a thread with the title "Brain Damaged - 100% First Class A$$" a non flame post. How would you feel if a thread like that was created about savageamusement or another well respected member? If you want to discuss this privately, feel free to contact me.

Everyone was a little guilty in the other threads. Brian Damage definitely should have handled things differently. I told him that.. but so could everybody else in that thread instead of continuing the fight. It could have been reported. The instinct is just to continue the fight until it gets broken up by the referee. Solomon started a thread and was basically ridiculed in 3 different threads. Brian stood up for him, as any good friend would do, and then all hell broke loose. The insults were flying left and right. I can't ask a moderator not to defend himself.

And just so everyone knows, the only moderators that can close/open, edit threads on the Trading Post are savageamusement, combsisthebest, and the admins. There are no "Super Moderators" here that have power across all boards.

This really needs to end once and for all, everybody just needs to move on to something else. Any further threads on the subject will just be deleted. I've never seen 2 groups of people on a message board act so differently. Can't everybody just get along? If you don't like somebody, just ignore them. Don't talk about them behind their backs and make sarcastic remarks. If you continually ridicule someone, you are looking for trouble.

How do you think I felt when Brian came up here and opened his toilet mouth to me when I never addressed him, had said nothing to him, calls me whatever names he wanted and then cries like a baby.?

Harvey

How do you think I felt when Brian came up here and opened his toilet mouth to me when I never addressed him, had said nothing to him, calls me whatever names he wanted and then cries like a baby.?

Harvey

You just can't end it can you Harv? lol

Yes, it was her choice 100% completely. I hadn't even seen the posts before they were deleted. I don't question her when she moves or edits posts. I trust her judgment that she knows what to do to keep the peace here.

RedWhine, you were the ONLY person who used the report post function to report that thread. None of the other people who particpated in that thread chose to use it.

Harvey's thread "Moderating" was much the same as the one on Chit Chat, with some additional comments by other people thrown in for good measure.

You just can't end it can you Harv? lol

Sure, apoligize like a man.

Sure, apoligize like a man.

When you apologize like a man to Solomon. Otherwise, forget it.

You just can't end it can you Harv? lol


Guys just take it off board to TJ, don't address it here. Ultimately it is his board and I really do not want to see a shut down again.

Some people will continue pushing buttons do not give him the satisfaction.

Gentlemen.. please let's not go through what we went through last night. Let's agree to disagree and stop with the flame wars.

I'll repeat my OP.

Obviously, this is a rhetorical question, because if the thread is gone, it's because it got deleted by a mod. But WTF? I'm wondering why a MODERATOR can repeatedly flame members & get by with it. And then when said moderator's actions are questioned in a mature manner (UNLIKE SAID MODERATOR'S FLAMES!), the thread is pulled? I've been ripped a new one more than once here & NEVER reported it or asked that it be pulled. If I feel I'm in the wrong, I have the gonads to say so & apologize. I post my replies, use the "ignore member" button, when warranted & move on. I would expect as much from a moderator.

I see NOTHING flaming about this (unlike BD's continued, elementary and certainly unoriginal reponses). Ok, maybe that last part was a bit over the top on my part. And I think it's a fair observation that is deserving of a fair answer.

When you apologize like a man to Solomon. Otherwise, forget it.

Awwww....isn't that sweet????

The flames and insults were being thrown both ways. If you want to question a moderator's actions, you can do it privately with me.

Awwww....isn't that sweet????

flamer

flamer

Geez, Brian, you've got to give me a bit more to go on than that. Is this supposed to be an insult? Hurt my feelings? Work with me here.

flamer

TJ said cool it, but like Timex you keep ticking and ticking and ticking. Wish the battery would die already.

You people just never stop. :rolleyes:

I really think you are being unfair here--- it is not a question of us "NEVER STOPPING" we just do not understand

a few facts

1. MODERATORS on this or any board, are expected to act professional and mature and to rise above the pettiness and childishness that sometimes goes on, and they are held to a higher standard because they are in a position of authority

2. when u have a moderator who makes personal attacks and name calling and uses profanity, it comes off as real unprofessional and real immature, regardless of the situation

3. the whole situation yesterday was all good natured--- we rib one another a lot, i tease solomon about his "original commercials", lilhave teases loren about his "premium list", people tease lilhave about his age, and his old vaudevillian jokes, people tease me and joey1727 about being from the south, etc, etc, etc---- noone meant any harm by any of it, even if there was disagreement

4. when the moderator in question began posting about the situation his tone was confrontational and insulting and people took offense, his use of bad language and name calling was inappropriate and not right---- as someone in a position of authority it came off, to most members like an abuse of that authority and extremely negative

5. another moderator LOCKED one thread and posted that same statement, and this moderator simply posted negative and insulting comments on ANOTHER THREAD----- that thread was ALSO locked, and it continued on yet a third thread, even after it was publicly stated and posted that the comments were not becoming to a moderator

6. all those negative comments are still able to be viewed and read, YET when a NON MODERATOR member started a new thread about how inappropriate the moderators statements were, THAT THREAD WAS REMOVED????

it seems like a double standard when a moderator can post name calling and insults and use bad language (even if its censored out, we all know the intent) BUT yet if a member questions why a moderator does that, and points out how inappropriate it is, THEN THAT IS NOT ALLOWED!?!?!?

i know moderators cannot be bashed and i understand the rules, HOWEVER if a moderator is allowed to insult and degrade a member publicly, and that member cannot respond---- is that fair? and are people wrong for pointing it out????

Wow, I missed a whole lot

Tell me about it. :lol:

sir u have ALWAYS seemed like a decent guy to me, but i just dont understand it--- u sign your posts with a biblical quote but last night u mixed the biblical quote in with cuss word and insults? that is NOT very Christian by anyones standard and

do u not understand that moderators are supposed to be respected--- BUT they are also supposed to earn that respect by acting in a mature, professional and intelligent way? and by "moderating" problems, NOT adding to the problems and adding to the mudslinging?

last night 1 thread was locked b/c of inappropriate behavior and language (now u were NOT the only one to cross the line, BUT you were the only MODERATOR to do so)
yet even then the arguements moved on to another thread, and when that was locked, it moved to yet another thread

i just dont get it, i mean, do u not see how wrong and inappropriate that was? and how bad it came off to the regular members who read the boards and who look to moderators for guidance and help with problems? and are honestly SHOCKED to see a moderator PUBLICLY CUSSING out another member over a silly post????

I really think you are being unfair here--- it is not a question of us "NEVER STOPPING" we just do not understand

a few facts

1. MODERATORS on this or any board, are expected to act professional and mature and to rise above the pettiness and childishness that sometimes goes on, and they are held to a higher standard because they are in a position of authority

2. when u have a moderator who makes personal attacks and name calling and uses profanity, it comes off as real unprofessional and real immature, regardless of the situation

3. the whole situation yesterday was all good natured--- we rib one another a lot, i tease solomon about his "original commercials", lilhave teases loren about his "premium list", people tease lilhave about his age, and his old vaudevillian jokes, people tease me and joey1727 about being from the south, etc, etc, etc---- noone meant any harm by any of it, even if there was disagreement

4. when the moderator in question began posting about the situation his tone was confrontational and insulting and people took offense, his use of bad language and name calling was inappropriate and not right---- as someone in a position of authority it came off, to most members like an abuse of that authority and extremely negative

5. another moderator LOCKED one thread and posted that same statement, and this moderator simply posted negative and insulting comments on ANOTHER THREAD----- that thread was ALSO locked, and it continued on yet a third thread, even after it was publicly stated and posted that the comments were not becoming to a moderator

6. all those negative comments are still able to be viewed and read, YET when a NON MODERATOR member started a new thread about how inappropriate the moderators statements were, THAT THREAD WAS REMOVED????

it seems like a double standard when a moderator can post name calling and insults and use bad language (even if its censored out, we all know the intent) BUT yet if a member questions why a moderator does that, and points out how inappropriate it is, THEN THAT IS NOT ALLOWED!?!?!?

i know moderators cannot be bashed and i understand the rules, HOWEVER if a moderator is allowed to insult and degrade a member publicly, and that member cannot respond---- is that fair? and are people wrong for pointing it out????
Members are supposed to act civilized too. Last night their were 3 threads started and they were all to show Solomon up. Brian came to his defense but you guys kept flaming the threads. Everytime he stopped posting for awhile their were more posts yelling at him. He has a right to defend himself. If this had happened over on Chit Chat all those threads would have been locked immediately and everyone would have been told to shut up and take it to Pm's. And my God that was last night but you guys just won't let it go. One thread after another talking about the same thing. You guys need to get over it.

Members are supposed to act civilized too. Last night their were 3 threads started and they were all to show Solomon up. Brian came to his defense but you guys kept flaming the threads. Everytime he stopped posting for awhile their were more posts yelling at him. He has a right to defend himself. If this had happened over on Chit Chat all those threads would have been locked immediately and everyone would have been told to shut up and take it to Pm's. And my God that was last night but you guys just won't let it go. One thread after another talking about the same thing. You guys need to get over it.

Coming to a defense is one thing but starting to curse, ridicule, attempt to put to shame and in general flame everyone he can is a different situation. You mean if one finds problems with Solomons's concept in trading and meakes mention of it and this situation comes up every few mos., it's all right to flame and then when you respond in kind, have the thread shut.

Maybe you like the way he runs things in the chit chat room but we certainly don't in the trading section.

Harvey

I posted my responses BEFORE i read TJ's comments so this will be my FINAL WORD ON THE SUBJECT

for the record, its TJs board, he pays the bills, its his rules

I will admit that several members went a bit too far, true

HOWEVER i will reiterate a Moderator is Held to a higher standard and is expected to hold themselves up as a leader---

there have been several times when members here have lashed out at savageamusement and insulted her--- BUT she does not get down and dirty with them, she handles herself like an "adult" and does not sink to name calling and insults---

I believe that if a moderator, any moderator, is unable or unwilling to act accordingly, they should step down or be removed----

if u cannot handle the job, u do not deserve it

we all say things we shouldnt some times, and we all lose our temper, that is why 99% of us are NOT cut out to be moderators--- and "moderators" have got to act better than that

as for solomon, i can say that most of us did disagree with him, BUT we were ragging on him joking around--- just like the chit chat board has some members who can call each other "Whores" jokingly without offense, i think that most all of us were "picking" on solomon in that same joking, good natured offense, NOONE called tv researcher any FOUL Language (unlike the moderator in question), NOONE called him an IDIOT, MORON, etc, NOONE called him USELESS (like the moderator in question chose to) and noone made any personal and vicious attacks on him

perhaps this was a misunderstanding on some peoples parts, and perhaps the moderator was backing up his buddy--- HOWEVER the role of a moderator is NOT to take sides in a fight, but to help solve the fight

LAMONTS FINAL WORD, still shaking his head though and wondering why some people just dont get it!?

Coming to a defense is one thing but starting to curse, ridicule, attempt to put to shame and in general flame everyone he can is a different situation. You mean if one finds problems with Solomons's concept in trading and meakes mention of it and this situation comes up every few mos., it's all right to flame and then when you respond in kind, have the thread shut.

Maybe you like the way he runs things in the chit chat room but we certainly don't in the trading section.

Harvey
It seems to me their was a lot of flaming going on over here before Brian even got involved. How many people ganged up on Solomon? Their are 3 threads devoted to it and then I lost count about how many where started just to bash Brian. It was still going on last night when I went to bed. If you don't like someone's thread you ignore it. That's what we do on Chit Chat because when you don't fights tend to erupt. He came to Solomon's defense and then you all ganged up on him and he responded in kind.

Yes, but as a moderator he should have put out the fire not throw gasoline on it.

my 2 cents

It seems to me their was a lot of flaming going on over here before Brian even got involved. How many people ganged up on Solomon? Their are 3 threads devoted to it and then I lost count about how many where started just to bash Brian. It was still going on last night when I went to bed. If you don't like someone's thread you ignore it. That's what we do on Chit Chat because when you don't fights tend to erupt. He came to Solomon's defense and then you all ganged up on him and he responded in kind.

Coming to one's defense is one thing. Coming aboard and the only thing he didn't do was kick anyone in the you know where. Sure, he opened his toilet and most if not all were insulted and jumped on him, and I guess if he acts like a immature brat again, history will repeat itself.

Harvey

Coming to one's defense is one thing. Coming aboard and the only thing he didn't do was kick anyone in the you know where. Sure, he opened his toilet and most if not all were insulted and jumped on him, and I guess if he acts like a immature brat again, history will repeat itself.

Harvey
Just look in the mirror before you throw insults.

Just look in the mirror before you throw insults.

Did you tell Brian the same line? If so he paid no heed.

Harvey

Did you tell Brian the same line? If so he paid no heed.

Harvey
All Brian's been doing is responding to you all for the last 24 hours. He hasn't made threads calling out other members.

I'm taking a break. I'm going to get a blueberry turnover and relax over at Chit Chat. . I'm sure you all will continue the bickering.

Brian's first post (#28) in the ORIGINAL thread is...

"You have got to be the most bitter old man I have ever met. Solomon is just trying to give help to new traders and all you are doing is crapping on the thread. Take a Geritol."

(And his posts only got worse from that point on.)

Now in the previous 26 responses to the original post, no one (I repeat NO ONE had referred to TVResearcher (my gut reaction is that S. gets a kick out of these things so I will not use his name) as a bitter old man or anything else at all, for that matter. Yes, SEVERAL (repeat SEVERAL) ACTIVE MEMBERS of Trading Post pointed out flaws in his strategy. Anyone who can read English & has an IQ higher than room temp can also see that S. "modified" his strategy as the flaws were pointed out to him. We're not talking rocket science here. Apparently, that is our crime (pointing out the flaws in S's strategy), since Brian (apparently) thinks it's OK to give flawed advice to newbies. Especially if it's from S.

Let me be the judge of a moderator's actions. I don't need to see threads created when they can be sent to me privately. If I feel some actions need to be taken to prevent it from happening in the future, I will make those decisions. We don't allow threads created solely to bash members. Period.

Brian is not the Chit Chat moderator. He is one of 5 moderators of the Politics board, and he moderates a few sitcom boards. He's been a valued member and moderator for over 4 years now. Janice is the sole moderator of the main Chit Chat section, and there are a few other moderators for the Chit Chat sub-forums.

I really feel like this would stop if Solomon was not a constant target and lambasted all the time. I know many of you simply don't like him. That's fine but stop taking shots at him. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If you are going to dish out insults and sarcastic remarks, then you have to expect some in return. Insults are no less severe just because you aren't using bad language in them. People on this board just live for the drama. People go in attack mode over nothing, and if someone gives it back, they cry like babies.

What's next? Are we supposed to allow threads that bash Harvey, Lamont, Loren, or anybody else? As I said many times already, if you want to question a moderator's actions, you can contact me privately to discuss it and I will take the appropriate action.

ok ok ok i said it was my final word
but i lied

I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS

brian damage, i was polite and respectful to him, he used bad language and insults towards me,

then today, i put forth my opinion and even directed one post TO HIM titled BRIAN DAMAGE on this thread--- no insults, no name calling and i specifically asked him a few questions, none of which he saw fit to reply to at all

same thing with I WALK THE LINE, he keeps repeating that Damage was defending himself--- BUT NEVER ONCE does he comment on the ROLE OF A MODERATOR and how inappropriate it was

the facts are simple-- TvResarcher has been around a long time, he takes his bumps and moves on, he doesnt freak out and cuss people out and go berserk, he is wrong sometimes and sometimes he is right, but for the most part, he acts like an adult and keeps it real

he did NOT need anyone coming to his rescue and if u read
the very first post BRIAN DAMAGE made about it, he started off insulting people--- a moderator?????? i almost died! a moderator acting like a 13 year old boy at the school yard fighting?!?!

YES other people said things they should not have, BUT he is a moderator and needs to act as such

and i really wish brian damage would take 10 seconds to answer the questions i posted

THIS TIME--- FOR REAL--- LAMONTS FINAL WORD!:wave:

People go in attack mode over nothing, and if someone gives it back, they cry like babies.

.


There's no crying on the Trading Board

If you don't tie my 2 hands behind my back, (i.e.with threats to shut down trading board, deleting threads you see as unfit, threatening to BAN me etc....)I'll take on any one of your 35,000 post flunkies.


But lets's make it an even playing field.

Let me be the judge of a moderator's actions. I don't need to see threads created when they can be sent to me privately. If I feel some actions need to be taken to prevent it from happening in the future, I will make those decisions. We don't allow threads created solely to bash members. Period.

Brian is not the Chit Chat moderator. He is one of 5 moderators of the Politics board, and he moderates a few sitcom boards. He's been a valued member and moderator for over 4 years now. Janice is the sole moderator of the main Chit Chat section, and there are a few other moderators for the Chit Chat sub-forums.

I really feel like this would stop if Solomon was not a constant target and lambasted all the time. I know many of you simply don't like him. That's fine but stop taking shots at him. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If you are going to dish out insults and sarcastic remarks, then you have to expect some in return. Insults are no less severe just because you aren't using bad language in them. People on this board just live for the drama. People go in attack mode over nothing, and if someone gives it back, they cry like babies.

What's next? Are we supposed to allow threads that bash Harvey, Lamont, Loren, or anybody else? As I said many times already, if you want to question a moderator's actions, you can contact me privately to discuss it and I will take the appropriate action.

#1 I did email you privately. I understand you're busy, have a life, etc. Since I've not heard back from you yet privately, I'm responding to your public post.

#2 This line about "I really feel like this would stop if Solomon was not a constant target and lambasted all the time. I know many of you simply don't like him. That's fine but stop taking shots at him." is just plain silly. So if Solomon gives bad advice, we're supposed to let it fly? TJ, you're not stupid. I'm sure you can read the thread & even if you're not a trader, you can see S's advice was considered bad advice by many (all?) here and you can also see people were not putting HIM down, but rather the idea he presented. And they provided VALID reasons why his way didn't make sense. But hey, if we're supposed to agree with everything Solomon says, just say the word. Most of us try to abide by the rules - we just need to know what they are.

Let me be the judge of a moderator's actions.

Well, that's what we're hoping for...

First off, To asnwer RedWhines question, I did in fact remove the modeartor title post this afternoon
but it was not my choice - it was under the guidance/direction of another moderator/administrator.
She felt it was the beginning to a possible problem- and requested I delete it.

The other thread in the Chit Chat section I did not read until it was deleted, and did not delete it.

Now as far as brian damage goes.
I am going to say this once-
Personally, I try to have no problems with anyone here- but it happens.
As has been mentioned before I was the one who chose to advise tvresearcher to be suspended briefly due to how he was responding/talking to other users.
And when that happened, BD'amage came to the Traders post and ran me into the ground- saying things that were pretty harsh - and pretty judgemental of my moderating.
Since them especially I haev tried very hard to hold my tongue and deal with all things as best as i can- and ask for help when i can't
Yes as an example to the rest of the board, new or old members.

I try very hard to never say anything that would insult a user-
But that is my philisophy.

I did in fact email him yesterday, trying to dicuss the matter, and evnetuall some emails went back forth, and i tried to get a handle on his persepctive- which was that of a member, and friend defending another
not as a moderator or an example

That is his choice- and the community on this forum has given their opinion to me, and Tj about that-and it has to be understood only Tj can decide what to do about that.
Do i think things got out of line yesterday, yes - Yes I do.
And i think Brian made things worse not better-
But, I also said and I will quote myself-
That I don't know what its like running his section, and if I were to get into a heated arguement on the Politics board, I might have had my tail handed to me by their 'regulars"

I have come to know all the members here fairly well.
Some by phone, MANY by trade, some by email.
I have made friends with most of you- and I understand many of you.
Most of all, I see things from your point of view because i deal with you night and day-
Therea rea few here, who get cocky. Arrogent, downride rude at times.
Some of you have gotten little PM"s from me-
Some have gotten the sharp end of my tongue.
But, there is a bsic understanding-
And that comes from time spent together, verbally, emailing, reading opinions- Time spent.


We have a bond, a click, a little cult at times
And hey lets be honest some of you don't play well with others
And have said a thing or two to make a sailor blush
but since you are used to each other, it seems less offensive, or less abusive.
Where to an outsider- it makes their defenses come out.

I dont agree with much of what was said yesterday, and it ended up a vicious cycle.
And I don't hide the fact I do think a moderator should set an example-and Maybe Brain needs to learn to be able to put out fires more than add to them-
But I am sure some of us need to learn to as well
And I suppose some of us need to learn that moderators are people too and get caught up int he moment-

So maybe we can all take something away from this- instead of dragging it on farther.
I tease people at times, and tell them I run the Sweathogs of the trading world-
And it's true in some ways
But you guys are my sweathogs and I love you-
And That is why I put up with you :)

But Brian doesn't have to put up with you - he doesn't have to even like you-

So lets agree to disagree.
And lets all admit we could have been kinder yesterday
And lets admit that a few of us wanted to haev the last word-
And maybe, just maybe we can get back to trading a little wiser.

Sometimes it isn't knowing if your right or wrong that wins the battle but knowing when right doesn't matter anymore, because wrong or right, there is still peace when the battle stops.


Just my opinion

I'm sorry Kim, but it was ultimately your choice. Janice is not an administrator. If she was an administrator, she could have deleted the thread on her own. She may have suggested it and said something like "this thread needs to go", but it was you who decided to remove it. It's not uncommon for people to request that threads need to/should be deleted. In the end, it was probably the best decision.

I don't know why I assumed she was an administrator, must be her wise ways :)
:D
Nonetheless the rest of my post still stands.

I'm sorry Kim, but it was ultimately your choice. Janice is not an administrator. If she was an administrator, she could have deleted the thread on her own. She may have suggested it and said something like "this thread needs to go", but it was you who decided to remove it. It's not uncommon for people to request that threads need to/should be deleted. In the end, it was probably the best decision.

Ok, fine. Kiss, kiss. Where's Brian's apology? (Such as they have been in the past.)

First off, To asnwer RedWhines question, I did in fact remove the modeartor title post this afternoon
but it was not my choice - it was under the guidance/direction of another moderator/administrator.
She felt it was the beginning to a possible problem- and requested I delete it.

The other thread in the Chit Chat section I did not read until it was deleted, and did not delete it.

Now as far as brian damage goes.
I am going to say this once-
Personally, I try to have no problems with anyone here- but it happens.
As has been mentioned before I was the one who chose to advise tvresearcher to be suspended briefly due to how he was responding/talking to other users.
And when that happened, BD'amage came to the Traders post and ran me into the ground- saying things that were pretty harsh - and pretty judgemental of my moderating.
Since them especially I haev tried very hard to hold my tongue and deal with all things as best as i can- and ask for help when i can't
Yes as an example to the rest of the board, new or old members.

I try very hard to never say anything that would insult a user-
But that is my philisophy.

I did in fact email him yesterday, trying to dicuss the matter, and evnetuall some emails went back forth, and i tried to get a handle on his persepctive- which was that of a member, and friend defending another
not as a moderator or an example

That is his choice- and the community on this forum has given their opinion to me, and Tj about that-and it has to be understood only Tj can decide what to do about that.
Do i think things got out of line yesterday, yes - Yes I do.
And i think Brian made things worse not better-
But, I also said and I will quote myself-
That I don't know what its like running his section, and if I were to get into a heated arguement on the Politics board, I might have had my tail handed to me by their 'regulars"

I have come to know all the members here fairly well.
Some by phone, MANY by trade, some by email.
I have made friends with most of you- and I understand many of you.
Most of all, I see things from your point of view because i deal with you night and day-
Therea rea few here, who get cocky. Arrogent, downride rude at times.
Some of you have gotten little PM"s from me-
Some have gotten the sharp end of my tongue.
But, there is a bsic understanding-
And that comes from time spent together, verbally, emailing, reading opinions- Time spent.


We have a bond, a click, a little cult at times
And hey lets be honest some of you don't play well with others
And have said a thing or two to make a sailor blush
but since you are used to each other, it seems less offensive, or less abusive.
Where to an outsider- it makes their defenses come out.

I dont agree with much of what was said yesterday, and it ended up a vicious cycle.
And I don't hide the fact I do think a moderator should set an example-and Maybe Brain needs to learn to be able to put out fires more than add to them-
But I am sure some of us need to learn to as well
And I suppose some of us need to learn that moderators are people too and get caught up int he moment-

So maybe we can all take something away from this- instead of dragging it on farther.
I tease people at times, and tell them I run the Sweathogs of the trading world-
And it's true in some ways
But you guys are my sweathogs and I love you-
And That is why I put up with you :)

But Brian doesn't have to put up with you - he doesn't have to even like you-

So lets agree to disagree.
And lets all admit we could have been kinder yesterday
And lets admit that a few of us wanted to haev the last word-
And maybe, just maybe we can get back to trading a little wiser.

Sometimes it isn't knowing if your right or wrong that wins the battle but knowing when right doesn't matter anymore, because wrong or right, there is still peace when the battle stops.


Just my opinion

I do not want your job. I respect you for what you do, tho.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

There's no crying on the Trading Board

If you don't tie my 2 hands behind my back, (i.e.with threats to shut down trading board, deleting threads you see as unfit, threatening to BAN me etc....)I'll take on any one of your 35,000 post flunkies.


But lets's make it an even playing field.

I have to second that! I would have kept things going if not for the requests some "higher ups" . BD was given a reprieve because I listened to the mods when the censorship hammer came down.

I really feel like this would stop if Solomon was not a constant target and lambasted all the time.

What the people who don't visit the Trading Post frequently and read ALL the posts don't understand is that us regulars here go to great lengths to make this site the BEST place, hands down, for people to get started in the hobby. We have rules in place, sticky threads, a detailed bad traders list, a fine selection of traders with very diverse collections, a GREAT MODERATOR, and we spend time discussing at length ways, to keep the forum safe, and to make trading easy and pleasant, especially for the new person.

Those who read the board frequently see all the posts from new people saying, "I'm just getting started, any help appreciated. I'd like to get these series:....". Almost everybody at the Trading Post collects complete series'. A quick look at the have and want lists that are posted make that abundantly clear.

Solomon does things entirely his own way. He does not collect series like everybody else, and like every other newbie wants to. No, he collects rare, one-off, scattered episodes. No one EVER ridicules or insults him for what, or how, he collects. We ALL recognize and respect and honor his choice.

But when he came in and made a post, addressed specifically to New Traders, with a suggestion that WILL NOT WORK, yes, he got lambasted. Or rather, if you read the thread, his suggestion got completely lambasted. No one attacked Solomon personally in any post.

His suggestion deserved what it got as it is not only extremely poor, but a sure-fire way for any newbie who takes his suggestion to heart to waste a lot of time, money and effort to get nothing in return. Had he added the caveat: "Only pursue this method if you wish to build a collection of rare, scattered episodes", there probably would not have been the uproar there was. But it was not, it was addressed simply to New Traders. Any newbie who thinks that he'll be able to record the Today Show or the nightly news for 6 months and then trade that for a complete series he wants is going to be mighty disappointed when he finds out he's been recording garbage all that time.

Anyone who reads the thread in its entirety will see that there was absolute 100% agreement that his suggestion was way off-base. Not one single person chimed-in in support of it, or even hinted that it could possibly work.

Why should all of us who make the Trading Post what it is have to stand by and watch our hard work go up in flames because of one very ill-advised post, by not vehemently shooting the suggestion down?

We at the Trading Post all get along fine. Solomon knows very well that he trades differently than the rest of us. He knows very well that his posts get people riled up, he makes ridiculous statements about how the rest of us should trade (i.e. like him) on a regular basis. He does it to get a rise out of people, not because he thinks anyone's going to take him seriously. It's all part of the game we play. Then, when to us it's just another day at the Post, not so much different from many other days, Mr. Damage comes along, completely misinterprets everything as an attack on Solomon, and viciously attacks Harvey. That's when the trouble began.

So to bring this full circle with regards to the quote from T.J. at the top, Solomon is not a constant target. He's only a target when he makes himself out to be one, intentionally, by making some absurd recommendation about trading that does not apply to anyone but him. Then when things really heat up, as they have now, he sits back, watches as the posts get out of hand, and gets the last laugh on us all.

Kudos to Solomon.

Shame on Mr. Damage.

Solomon's ideas can be shot down without the sarcasm and insults.

You could say that everybody on the Trading Post gets along, but that can't be further from the truth. This is the most volatile area, with the most reported posts of any board by a large number. It is very cliquey. People secretly hate others, but they'll never say it publically. There are people who think they are better than others on the board. I wish it was one giant happy family but it isn't. You can't paint a rosy picture.

If everybody loves and respects savageamusement, then start showing it by having a lot less fights. She devotes a lot of time to this board. She doesn't need the added stress.

This can be a great board when people want it to be, but there is too much drama and petty bickering more often than not.

TJ,

you're slumming it today ? Never seen you spend so much time in this part of town. I hope you parked somewhere safe - it gets real crazy around these parts after dark.

Come on, show us some love :kiss: - even if we are that ugly step-child you wish you never had.

:kiss:

Solomon's ideas can be shot down without the sarcasm and insults..

Ok. Please, please PLEASE, show me in that thread where Solomon was insulted, prior to post #29 when BD reared his ugly...whatever.

Here's a direct link to the thread:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=175461

And I'm sure, even an objective party would admit the sarcasm in those posts was benign. I mean, c'mon, my husband & I are sarcastic to each other every single day.

Ok. Please, please PLEASE, show me in that thread where Solomon was insulted, prior to post #29 when BD reared his ugly...whatever.

Here's a direct link to the thread:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=175461

Solomen does the same thing in the chat room. Makes a post and with each response changes his thoughts completely. It's pointed out to him on a continous basis, and they mimic him.

Harvey

And how does that insult Solomon? An insult is an unwarranted slur based upon race, creed, color, belief, etc. If something is true, how can it be an insult? In the quote you chose, every word is true & you only have to look at the first 28 posts to see that.

Next.

Why don't you send a link to one of the forums you mod so we can come over and play?

And how does that insult Solomon? Every word is true & you only have to look at the first 28 posts to see that.

Next.

Sorry Whine but that was an insult and I responded. Then everybody jumped in the fracas to get a piece. That's fine, but when you attack, be ready to get a fight. It is that simple.

Sorry Whine but that was an insult and I responded. Then everybody jumped in the fracas to get a piece. That's fine, but when you attack, be ready to get a fight. It is that simple.

Sorry, Brain, but no. It was not an insult. It's that simple.

Sorry, Brain, but no. It was not an insult. It's that simple.

Maybe not to you, but it was to me and I responded. Plain and simple.

And I will not deal with you Brian in the future. Obviously, you & I will never agree. So be it. I'm asking all OTHER mods to show me where they think Solomon was insulted, prior to your intervention.

So that statement by me that Solomon makes a post, and then changes it as he goes along and this has been pointed out to him on numerous times in the chat room, which is all true deserved your mouth to open up with cursing and insults about whatever you deemed necessary. Pal, get a grip on reality, look in the mirror and decide if your fit to wear the title of moderator. So if someone insults Solomon for some of his outlandish statements, you derserve the right to cuss them out.?

What I said was so bad that Solomon deserves a apoology. Sir, it wasn't I who crapped on the thread but you and your toilet mouth.

Harvey

And I will not deal with you Brian in the future. Obviously, you & I will never agree. So be it. I'm asking all OTHER mods to show me where they think Solomon was insulted, prior to your intervention.

You ask for an example, I give you one and that is not good enough for you. You just can't be pleased. It was my reaction to that statement and the sarcasm that followed that led me to react. If you are not satisfied with that, that is YOUR problem. Nobody else's.

So that statement by me that Solomon makes a post, and then changes it as he goes along and this has been pointed out to him on numerous times in the chat room, which is all true deserved your mouth to open up with cursing and insults about whatever you deemed necessary. Pal, get a grip on reality, look in the mirror and decide if your fit to wear the title of moderator. So if someone insults Solomon for some of his outlandish statements, you derserve the right to cuss them out.?

What I said was so bad that Solomon deserves a apoology. Sir, it wasn't I who crapped on the thread but you and your toilet mouth.

Harvey

Sorry Harv, but you are the perfect example of someone that can dish it, but certainly can't take it. Maybe you feel that you are entitled because of your age (No that wasn't meant to be an insult) but the fact is, you are not. Sarcasm can work both ways.

You ask for an example, I give you one and that is not good enough for you. You just can't be pleased. It was my reaction to that statement and the sarcasm that followed that led me to react. If you are not satisfied with that, that is YOUR problem. Nobody else's.

As in any dispute, a third party's opinion is requested. That means not you. Run along now.

Solomon's ideas can be shot down without the sarcasm and insults.
I don't think they can. I could be wrong, but here's what I believe:
I think the ideas he posts are intentionallly designed to get that sort of response. As I said, Solomon WANTS to see the sarcasm and the insults. He wants people to get riled up and see posts get out of hand. His m.o. is to set off a big fight, feed it for a bit and then stop posting, sit back and watch the rest of us go nuts over each other. That's why he makes these ridiculous comments in the first place. He knows very well that traders are not going to trade a maximum of 5 discs at a time, and that people are not going to watch every second of every show they get before they trade it, or that they are going to record the nightly news to build a collection. His suggestions are unrealistic and completely unpractical and, most importantly, he knows that before he makes them.

Perhaps you disagree with that, but it seems to me that either I'm right, or Solomon is just plain stupid. Do you really think that when he makes one of his ridiculous suggestions about how to trade that he actually expects the rest of the Trading Post to see his wisdom and follow his lead? Come on. And if not, then it is all just about being silly and having fun and pushing buttons. And as a result, equally silly and fun insults and sarcasm are to be expected.

You will notice that when he posts his "Looking for the Mar. 2, 1982 ABC ep of Three's A Crowd" posts, that those are taken seriously. Okay, well, maybe not, but you will note that they do not get met with sarcasm and insults. So to say that Solomon is always a target or whatever is not true. Only when he makes himself one. Intentionally.

I don't know anything about people secretly hating each other and reporting posts so will concede, out of complete ignorance on the matter, that you are correct. That hate thing surprises me though, would not have figured that.

As in any dispute, a third party's opinion is requested. That means not you. Run along now.

See what I am saying, you can't take it. You want only what you want. Maybe you have been around a long time, but that doesn't mean you get your way. You won't win.

You ask for an example, I give you one and that is not good enough for you. You just can't be pleased. It was my reaction to that statement and the sarcasm that followed that led me to react. If you are not satisfied with that, that is YOUR problem. Nobody else's.

Again, you derseve the right if you don't like a statement and sarcasm that follows, to cuss out and call one any name you want.? TJ, he may be your moderator but he surely isn't ours. From your original post TJ you spoke to Brian how he should have handled things differently, well, it didn't sink in. Say whatever but if it offends Brian, he will curse you.

I can respect anyone's point of view but you don't have one, unless you call pissing on someone a point of view.

Harvey

Solomon WANTS to see the sarcasm and the insults. He wants people to get riled up and see posts get out of hand. His m.o. is to set off a big fight, feed it for a bit and then stop posting, sit back and watch the rest of us go nuts over each other. on the matter, .

That's my gut reaction.

Come on Damaged

Give us an invite to one of your forums, start a "Traders Post roast" thread. We will see who can dish it out and who can take it.

Sorry Harv, but you are the perfect example of someone that can dish it, but certainly can't take it. Maybe you feel that you are entitled because of your age (No that wasn't meant to be an insult) but the fact is, you are not. Sarcasm can work both ways.

There is a difference between sarcasm and cursing. There is a difference between sarcasm and calling people names. One requires intelligence, the other just stupidity.

Harvey

Come on Damaged

Give us an invite to one of your forums, start a "Traders Post roast" thread. We will see who can dish it out and who can take it.
You just like to dish it out don't you?

QUOTE:

See what I am saying, you can't take it. You want only what you want. Maybe you have been around a long time, but that doesn't mean you get your way. You won't win.

Unfortunately there won't be a winner period. other than the people who will
read this thread and a couple of other threads and say "Holy crap, they argue like children".

If Brian Damaged felt he was insulted. Then he was insulted no matter what
others might have felt. Everyone has been on the other end where they said
"I didn't mean it that way" but it was taken that way. if there is any questions about this we can go back to the scoresheet and find the threads
where I had to apologize, lamont had to apologize etc.

So Now TJ has spoken and said pretty much everyone was out of line.
Noone got the good samaritan award for best behavior. And lets face
it, noone is going to change their opinion on this issue. The further
definition of beating a dead horse.

So can we all take a deep breath, and maybe go back to trading for a
bit instead of bickering. Because at this rate, we won't have to worry
about opening up a trading slug fest, we'll already have created it
ad nauseum.

Come on Damaged

Give us an invite to one of your forums, start a "Traders Post roast" thread. We will see who can dish it out and who can take it.


There you go again Jay, acting tough again. You do realize this is a message board don't you? I don't know who you are trying to impress with your bravado (Well actually I do) but it is really not needed.

You just like to dish it out don't you?

Wow 1 day here and you got me pegged. Only people that deserve it, like I stated before Harv's a big boy and can defend himself but to be asked by our moderator to stop and then continue.

I watched these for awhile but if you notice Savage locked a post, reopened it and the first post came from BD. Total lack of respect for the mod who runs this place. My posts did not start until he in my opinion dumped on Savage

There is a difference between sarcasm and cursing. There is a difference between sarcasm and calling people names. One requires intelligence, the other just stupidity.

Harvey

Again, if you dish it, be ready to take it.

I don't know anything about people secretly hating each other and reporting posts so will concede, out of complete ignorance on the matter, that you are correct. That hate thing surprises me though, would not have figured that.


If you could only walk in my shoes for a day, you'd know.

There you go again Jay, acting tough again. You do realize this is a message board don't you? I don't know who you are trying to impress with your bravado (Well actually I do) but it is really not needed.


You know something Damaged?


Oh nevermind I forgot you don't

You know something Damaged?


Oh nevermind I forgot you don't


Good one, but this is Sitcoms Online, not E harmony.

Wow 1 day here and you got me pegged. Only people that deserve it, like I stated before Harv's a big boy and can defend himself but to be asked by our moderator to stop and then continue.

I watched these for awhile but if you notice Savage locked a post, reopened it and the first post came from BD. Total lack of respect for the mod who runs this place. My posts did not start until he in my opinion dumped on Savage
I might not post on this board much but I sure do lurk here. I've read enough to see how this board works. And for your information their wouldn't be a Thread over in Chat Chat bashing the trading Post Board because it would be closed immediately. But what do I know I'm just a 35,000 post Flunky. :lol:

It should have remained locked. But then again you all would just start another thread and continued it.

Again, if you dish it, be ready to take it.

You came to this board and made the first salvo, not me. You have exhibited zero class and zero repect to the members of this site and still you wear the mantle of moderator. No one that is active in this area will have any dealings with you and still a moderator? Maybe it would be better if you would slink away and let us do our thing with OUR moderator, not you meddling and interferring.

I hope TJ realizes these threads will stop and possibly tranquility to return, once you pack up your toilet mouth and travel south. Take a hint, your not wanted.

Harvey

I might not post on this board much but I sure do lurk here. I've read enough to see how this board works. And for your information their wouldn't be a Thread over in Chat Chat bashing the trading Post Board because it would be closed immediately. But what do I know I'm just a 35,000 post Flunky. :lol:

It should have remained locked. But then again you all would just start another thread and continued it.



.... I don't think I've had the priviledge, Who are you exactly, (besides a 35K post flunky) and what the hell are you doing in thes parts anyway?

I might not post on this board much but I sure do lurk here. I've read enough to see how this board works. And for your information their wouldn't be a Thread over in Chat Chat bashing the trading Post Board because it would be closed immediately. But what do I know I'm just a 35,000 post Flunky. :lol:

It should have remained locked. But then again you all would just start another thread and continued it.

That's funny, the thread would have been locked immediately but not the thread explaining sexual matters to a 14 year old, or Solomon being turned off because a girl wanted to sleep with him, or the one and my personal favorite, the insertion of tampons. They are approriate but to tell Simon his suggestion is ludicrious deserves to be shut down. Another beauty that passed censorship was the 12 year old who said she thinks she is bisexual. Maybe, maybe, the thread should have been closed and tell her to talk to her parents, or clergy or get professional help but no was keep open so all the resident psychologists could give their opinion before going off to school.

Harvey

You came to this board and made the first salvo, not me. You have exhibited zero class and zero repect to the members of this site and still you wear the mantle of moderator. No one that is active in this area will have any dealings with you and still a moderator? Maybe it would be better if you would slink away and let us do our thing with OUR moderator, not you meddling and interferring.

I hope TJ realizes these threads will stop and possibly tranquility to return, once you pack up your toilet mouth and travel south. Take a hint, your not wanted.

Harvey

I really don't care if I am wanted here. You need to realize Harv, that these are not your boards. You don't run them, you don't own them and you damn sure don't have your own rules. You can't have your perverbial cake and eat it too. I have zero respect for people like you. People who THINK they can say whatever they want and not be reprimanded. I was using "sarcasm" come on Harv, you should know all about that considering that is one of the very few things that you contribute. Solomon wasn't the first person on these boards you insulted with your "wit". Solomon was just the final straw.

That's funny, the thread would have been locked immediately but not the thread explaining sexual matters to a 14 year old, or Solomon being turned off because a girl wanted to sleep with him, or the one and my personal favorite, the insertion of tampons. They are approriate but to tell Simon his suggestion is ludicrious deserves to be shut down. Another beauty that passed censorship was the 12 year old who said she thinks she is bisexual. Maybe, maybe, the thread should have been closed and tell her to talk to her parents, or clergy or get professional help but no was keep open so all the resident psychologists could give their opinion before going off to school.

Harvey


For someone who hates Chit Chat, you sure know a heck of a lot about it. lol

So Solomon is Brian's [female dog] and Brian is Sonny's [female dog]. I hope you'll all be very happy.

I might not post on this board much but I sure do lurk here. I've read enough to see how this board works. And for your information their wouldn't be a Thread over in Chat Chat bashing the trading Post Board because it would be closed immediately. But what do I know I'm just a 35,000 post Flunky. :lol:

It should have remained locked. But then again you all would just start another thread and continued it.

Well Cowboy

I admit this keeps dragging on but there has been no resolution and even if you hate us all here you have got to see that Mr. Damaged refused to listen to Savage and showed no respect for her wishes for him to stop even after things had calmed down.

How can our mod shut us down when Brain Damaged keeps inciting people?

As far as dishing it out you are bang on but I can take a good burn as well as anyone.

I really don't care if I am wanted here. You need to realize Harv, that these are not your boards. You don't run them, you don't own them and you damn sure don't have your own rules. You can't have your perverbial cake and eat it too. I have zero respect for people like you. People who THINK they can say whatever they want and not be reprimanded. I was using "sarcasm" come on Harv, you should know all about that considering that is one of the very few things that you contribute. Solomon wasn't the first person on these boards you insulted with your "wit". Solomon was just the final straw.

Again cursing is wit? Show me were I cursed Solomon. Show me were I called him names? You can't because I didn't. You mean if I call you a schmuck, that's wit?

Harvey

For someone who hates Chit Chat, you sure know a heck of a lot about it. lol

Didn't say I hate chit chat but ask me about you.

Harvey

I really don't care if I am wanted here. You need to realize Harv, that these are not your boards. You don't run them, you don't own them and you damn sure don't have your own rules. You can't have your perverbial cake and eat it too. I have zero respect for people like you. People who THINK they can say whatever they want and not be reprimanded. I was using "sarcasm" come on Harv, you should know all about that considering that is one of the very few things that you contribute. Solomon wasn't the first person on these boards you insulted with your "wit". Solomon was just the final straw.

It's a terrible shame that stupidity is not painful

So Solomon is Brian's [female dog] and Brian is Sonny's [female dog]. I hope you'll all be very happy.

And I guess you are a female dog?

It's a terrible shame that stupidity is not painful

This may be an everlasting Love!...
Come on, you know the words to the song!!!

Didn't say I hate chit chat but ask me about you.

Harvey

Ouch, that hurt. You should know that life is too short for hatred.

This may be an everlasting Love!...
Come on, you know the words to the song!!!

Yup she's hot but don't change the subject

Seriously dude why don't you be a man and apologize?

That's funny, the thread would have been locked immediately but not the thread explaining sexual matters to a 14 year old, or Solomon being turned off because a girl wanted to sleep with him, or the one and my personal favorite, the insertion of tampons. They are approriate but to tell Simon his suggestion is ludicrious deserves to be shut down. Another beauty that passed censorship was the 12 year old who said she thinks she is bisexual. Maybe, maybe, the thread should have been closed and tell her to talk to her parents, or clergy or get professional help but no was keep open so all the resident psychologists could give their opinion before going off to school.

Harvey
Their weren't personal attacks going on in those threads. I guess you can't understand that or you don't want to.

And I guess you are a female dog?

It would appear I touched a nerve there. :lol: As I said, I hope you'll all be very happy together. But in staying OT, sometimes, well, just sometimes, "Three's a Crowd". :lol: :lol: :lol:

Time to go sleep.

Last thought.
Even the dumbest of God's creatures, whatever that is, knows or at least senses when he or she is not wanted.

Pleae Brian, your not that dumb, how many clues do you need?

Harvey

So Solomon is Brian's [female dog] and Brian is Sonny's [female dog]. I hope you'll all be very happy.
Ouch. You guys crack me up. :lol: Their you go with the name calling again. I never called anyone here a name but lets see now I'm a flunky and a bitch. Lets see whats next. :rofl:

Ouch. You guys crack me up. :lol: Their you go with the name calling again. I never called anyone here a name but lets see now I'm a flunky and a bitch. Lets see whats next. :rofl:

#100

The opinions of Mrs Whine do not necessarily reflect those of all of us, I think she may have forgotten to check her avatar

It would appear I touched a nerve there. :lol: As I said, I hope you'll all be very happy together. But in staying OT, sometimes, well, just sometimes, "Three's a Crowd". :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah I got to admit, a message board veteran such as yourself has marketed the corner on wit. I am impressed Suze.

The opinions of Mrs Whine do not necessarily reflect those of all of us, I think she may have forgotten to check her avatar
Now that's funny. :lol:

Time to go sleep.

Last thought.
Even the dumbest of God's creatures, whatever that is, knows or at least senses when he or she is not wanted.

Pleae Brian, your not that dumb, how many clues do you need?

Harvey

I hope you sleep peacefully ol' Harv. :wave:

Well Damaged if you ever want to play on your field please let me know, you seem to like stating "you can dish it out but can't take it" I will take anything you think you can dish if you open a post for me in your backyard.

Heading to bed to dream of catwoman

Ciao

Yup she's hot but don't change the subject

Seriously dude why don't you be a man and apologize?

Nope

Now move along

Yeah I got to admit, a message board veteran such as yourself has marketed the corner on wit. I am impressed Suze.

Your spelling is only superseded by your wit. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. It's very uncool to call someone out on their/there/they're spelling. My bad. Really, I'd love to keep this up, but I'm up way past my bed time & must say good night. Ta Ta.:wave:

Ouch. You guys crack me up. :lol: Their you go with the name calling again. I never called anyone here a name but lets see now I'm a flunky and a bitch. Lets see whats next. :rofl:


We don't have to call you any names .... if you stick around a little we'll have plenty of fun with you - seeing as you're so liberated

So you and Solomon like to get freaky, huh? How does all that work? Like I mean, do you take turns ?

We don't have to call you any names .... if you stick around a little we'll have plenty of fun with you - seeing as you're so liberated

So you and Solomon like to get freaky, huh? How does all that work? Like I mean, do you take turns ?
You're a card Joker. I'm surprised Leno doesn't call you.

Well Damaged if you ever want to play on your field please let me know, you seem to like stating "you can dish it out but can't take it" I will take anything you think you can dish if you open a post for me in your backyard.

Heading to bed to dream of catwoman

Ciao

I doubt that. You can't handle it here in your own backyard.

I leave it off like this, I am sorry for cursing in my threads if that offended anybody. Other than that, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. My beef is with Harv. If anybody else jumped in the fracas and got insulted, that's a part of war. I like you Kim and really feel sorry that this is what you have to deal with on a regular basis.
Hopefully this will be the end of it. If not, so be it.

Your spelling is only superseded by your wit. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. It's very uncool to call someone out on their/there/they're spelling. My bad. Really, I'd love to keep this up, but I'm up way past my bed time & must say good night. Ta Ta.:wave:

Huh? lol I thought people lost THEIR marbles in THEIR 70's not THEIR 50's

You do need your beauty sleep my dear. Tootles :wave:

You're a card Joker. I'm surprised Leno doesn't call you.

He did, but I was doing Letterman this week, so I told him Sorry, No can do Jay


You're lucky, I'm letting you off the hook easy. Everyone left and I don't play to an empty room.

Ciao!

He did, but I was doing Letterman this week, so I told him Sorry, No can do Jay


You're lucky, I'm letting you off the hook easy. Everyone left and I don't play to an empty room.

Ciao!
Yea and I don't feel like going on with this any longer. One bad joke after another. I could have nightmares. :eek:

Night all. I hope this all ends now.

I know, I know I impress you, but lady, I am taken. You do need your beauty sleep my dear. Tootles :wave:

Actually, that's the first clever thing you've said all day. Except it's "toodles". Oh, but there I go with that spelling thing again. Sillly me. G'night. Have fun playing with yourself. So to speak.

Well Cowboy



How can our mod shut us down when Brain Damaged keeps inciting people?

As far as dishing it out you are bang on but I can take a good burn as well as anyone.


I accept the apology for the cursing here and there- but I just don't get what your driving after Brian.

Yes the board belongs to everyone, but since you don't trade - and as you have said you don't like most people on here- why keep forcing your way into conversations. And I DO NOT understand why you isolate lilhave out of the entire forum and say you have a problem with HIM.
What did he do to you, more than you have done to the remainder of users here?
I would think, fighting fire with fire, is basically a call it even kind of war.

Now as far as apolgizing to me, I don't have to put up with this usually- this is the longest argument I have ever seen go on Sitcoms- Ever.

But again, since the users here are traders, in fact.
And in a way your the outsider-
Wouldn't you think at some point about just posting back in your forum - ?
Seems to me the argument would stop, if the person they are arguing with wasn't posting

I don't mean to sound like a smart ass. I am dead serious.
They aren't arguing with each other.

It takes two to argue.

I''d also like to point something out- A while back Todd encouraged some of the users here, to spread out amongst the board-
And he went into the Chit Chat- he posted a joke and a few people complained.
So he said oh ok- it isn't welcome here and came back to traders forum.
He didn't keep coming back trying to force people THERE to like him or his point of view- He didn't take it personally.
He feels comfortable here-he is liked here.
So why can't it be that simple for others.
The board is so big, if you like one area, and one area of traders- why not just hang out there- and enjoy that- and let others do the same.
To try to come back over and over, and argue back and forth to me seems bullying
Either like me or else.
*Shrug*


Not everyone can have the last word-
Someone will eventually have to be the bigger man/woman and just STOP responding to the other.
I wonder who it will be.

people say Lamont beats a dead horse?

yikes!

i go to work and miss all the insanity? so now i have to break my word and comment again

1. a "MODERATOR" has a RESPONSIBILITY to the board to act like an adult and rise above the fight and try to SOLVE problems, NOT create them--- i think 3 or 4 people, all regular lowly members pointed this out and not 1 reply from the person it was directed to-- EVEN WHEN i directed the post TO HIM

2. Solomon is a big boy, and NOT ONCE did he, himself say he was offended or upset or hurt, we all kid one another, and Tvresearcher and i get into good natured arguements on good times, spinoff boards, etc--- he never gets upset and has never told me i went too far--- he does NOT need someone defending him, he can handle himself

3. BAD LANGUAGE and CUSSING and PERSONAL ATTACKS are CLEARLY listed as being AGAINST THE RULES--- there is a guideline at the top of the page--- so how come a moderator cannot read them and understand?

4. the "so called" personal attack on solomon was a good natured rib--- everyone i know got it and noone was offended--- however the replies with the foul language and insults? mean spirited and out of line

YOU KNOW--- i get picked on a lot here--- a few weeks ago, there was a poll---- meant to tease me, called HOW LONG CAN LAMONT GO WITHOUT POSTING? but i didnt go crying to savage or TJ and get people to come over here and cuss out the ones who started it--- it was good natured fun, maybe it smarted a little, but im a big boy and i can take it and Joker and I didnt get into a fight over it, it was a joke

when i tried to show REASON and CALM during this and the other threads, a certain moderator told me i was full of "BS" and i was fanning the flames? i dont get it

i think some people here need to get a life, and realize this is JUST A TV BOARD---- not real life and humor, even biting humor is not grounds to go ballisitc on a whole board!

I hope now that everyone ---- well, mainly one person, have had a little time to calm down, rethink it, realize how adults act and realize the dictionary definition of the word "MODERATE" maybe we can all go on with life

WOW, i've been at the wrong board all this time... THIS is where the drama is...

*sits back and enjoys*

44 views here and not one reply...

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=175569

Yet this thing goes on and on.

TVResearcher was trying to be nice and gave some bad advice. People said things they shouldn't. Brian Damage is not behaving as a moderator should. Let it go people.

monkey man

we replied to the packaging now
:lol: :lol:

Here is what I have to say.

TJ asked you guys to end this on page 1.

I read no further.

Close this and shut up.

That is basically what TJ told you nicely.

Yet this thing goes on and on.

TVResearcher was trying to be nice and gave some bad advice. People said things they shouldn't. Brian Damage is not behaving as a moderator should. Let it go people.


Do the words "HAZING" and "INITIATION" mean anything to you? .....

we handle rookies in a special way around here.



.

Here is what I have to say.



Close this and shut up.




oooh !

another intelligent moderator

I am so impressed with the hired help in this place.

Next thing you know, Janice will pop in



watch this, on cue .......

Here is what I have to say.

TJ asked you guys to end this on page 1.

I read no further.

Close this and shut up.

That is basically what TJ told you nicely.

After TJ said "end it", Brain must have posted at least 20 times. Did you tell him to shut up? I forgot, he's a moderator and he can't be touched.

Harvey

Ladies and Gentlemen,

BD has a pretty transparent MO, he comes in for a bit fires a few rounds and then watches the sparks fly.

This guy would love nothing more than for TJ to shut us down. I admit I have been one of the worst offenders in egging this guy on but it might be better if we just do not respond to him.

He seems okay to come here but does not want to mess up any other boards. Let's not feed into his ego

oooh !

another intelligent moderator

I am so impressed with the hired help in this place.

Next thing you know, Janice will pop in



watch this, on cue .......

Did I point anyone out specifically? I was talking to everyone, everyone.

So you can back off.
I was asking everyone to stop- as my last line said that you omitted- that is what TJ was basically asking.
I took no one task or bashed anyone.

You don't have to come to this site if you are dissatisfied.

And you certainly shouldn't attack anyone who hasnt spoken to you personally.

After TJ said "end it", Brain must have posted at least 20 times. Did you tell him to shut up? I forgot, he's a moderator and he can't be touched.

Harvey

I meant everyone. OK maybe I should have said please.
Did I point anyone out?

Did I attack anyone?

I was just asking to respect TJ, not to get on anyone's case.

Close this and shut up.

Did I point anyone out specifically? I was talking to everyone, everyone.


You don't have to come to this site if you are dissatisfied.



Thats the way to handle it. What board do you moderate? I will make sure I never go there. If I did want to go there I don't think I would feel welcomed but I guess thats the point you are trying to get across. I am not dissatisfied with this site (this board) just disappointed with certain moderators replies.

I feel bad for TJ, how embarassing to have a few moderators make the replies and comments they did and continue to make.

oooh !

another intelligent moderator

I am so impressed with the hired help in this place.

Next thing you know


watch this, on cue .......

Please

Yes everybody responded another 20 times.
but the fact is he isn't responding now. Its a new day.

Several times now Brain has said, in various words. The traders post should be erased.
The traders forum is the most rude, the most angry, the most annoying etc.
And a lot of members have pointed that out to me.

Ok. That is his opinion. He is entitled to it.

But I think I speak for many when I say I don't agree with that- And for the most part the fights we have, you have- get angry, and they get taken care of.
When you put this many people together, their personalities ARE going to clash.
And people who don't deal with one another every day, aren't going to understand.
And I don't like someone having the opinion from an outside view an entire forum should just be removed-any more than most of you do.

It makes most members feel like they are being exterminated.
That if things aren't pleasant and happy with rainbows shooting out- they can just be gotten rid of.

And that makes me defensive, and maybe not perfectly objective
And I am sure, that view is shared by some others here.

There have been comments like, he should go back to HIS board, or he should go somewhere else- which is stating he isn't welcome here.
And I would assume this would make him feel defensive as well, wouldn't you?
Or left out, or any various other feelings I am sure we have felt when not included, or told to "go away"
There is a lot of defensiveness and a lot of territorial feelings.
And I think both sides of that opinion need to be looked at.

Some of you have agreed with me that a moderator shouldn't say or do some of the things that were said or done.
And Brian has apologized for some of them
And Tj has addressed the rest.

It has been discussed and resolved as best it can on that end.

Yes we can all be harsh and we can all forget to be better people, and turn the other cheek.

There is nothing that has happened here, that hasn't happened wiht fellow trading members.
And to be honest it will alllllll happen again- and you know I am right.


So lets stop fighting. Lets stop the name calling, lets stop being defensive and territorial
And lets just go back to enjoying the board for what it is.
There are many different sections, different areas, different views.
That isn't going to change.

But the time has come to let it rest-
Whoever is wrong or right isn't my concern at the moment-
My concern is making this the best traders forum out there-
With the best members out there-

And the board may be divided up into sections but it is all ONE board.