View Full Version : These TV characters that should have never ever had their own spinoff


TVFactFan
06-20-2006, 12:29 PM
Aunt Esther from Sanford and Son

Grady from Sanford and Son

Florence from Checking In

Brian Damage
06-20-2006, 12:37 PM
Aunt Esther from Sanford and Son

Grady from Sanford and Son

Florence from Checking In

Aunt Esther?!?

TVFactFan
06-20-2006, 06:26 PM
Aunt Esther?!?


Yes Aunt Esther was spinned off into her own show(SANFORD ARMS)

Lamont
06-20-2006, 08:25 PM
Yes Aunt Esther was spinned off into her own show(SANFORD ARMS)
was NOT the star of SANFORD ARMS
she was just a supporting character as she had always been

if u recall they have a new owner and the show centered on him and his kids, aunt esther was just a supporting role!

TVFactFan
06-20-2006, 08:32 PM
was NOT the star of SANFORD ARMS
she was just a supporting character as she had always been

if u recall they have a new owner and the show centered on him and his kids, aunt esther was just a supporting role!


WRONG AGAIN. I never knew PHIL WHEELER was cast member on Sanford and Son and was spinnned OFF into his own Show-"Sanford Arms" Lamont listen, ESTHER was spinned off into the Sanford Arms series and BUBBA was in a supporting role

Lamont
06-21-2006, 12:33 AM
Phil Wheeler was NOT on Sanford and Son of course

BUT he was THE STAR of THE SANFORD ARMS, they REPLACED Redd Foxx with a new lead character--- ESTHER and BUBBA remained ONLY co-stars


I have several episodes and when u watch them, GUESS WHO GETS FIRST BILLING as STARRING.... and it aint Lawanda Page....

Here is info from TV.COM

The Sanford Arms was an attempt to continue the long-running success of "Sanford & Son" without Redd Foxx or Demond Wilson. The actors had left earlier for different reasons. Fred's old army buddy, Phil Wheeler, comes to run the Sanford Arms hotel after Fred and Lamont moved to Arizona (it was stated in the show that they left due to Fred's health). Bubba is still around, only now he is the hotel's bellboy. Esther also frequents the hotel, becoming the star of the show in Fred's absence. This was not enough to save the series, and after only four episodes, it was pulled from the air.

And if u watch the episodes you will notice that Esther has FAR LESS screen time than Phil Wheeler and his children, in fact in some episodes she barely makes a cameo!

sorry, but Esther was NOT the star and was never more than a supporting character!

Brian Damage
06-21-2006, 12:43 AM
Aunt Esther was NOT spun off. lol

Lamont
06-21-2006, 12:49 AM
Aunt Esther was NOT spun off. lol

BUUUUUUUUT i will say this

IF THEY HAD Spun Esther off as the Star

that would have been 10X better than the SANFORD ARMS! :lol:

Brian Damage
06-21-2006, 12:57 AM
BUUUUUUUUT i will say this

IF THEY HAD Spun Esther off as the Star

that would have been 10X better than the SANFORD ARMS! :lol:

True :lol:

TVFactFan
06-21-2006, 01:40 AM
Yall sound crazy now, someone had to be spinned off to call Sanford Arms a Spinoff. And it was Esther who was in the NBC Photo with Phil Wheeler to promote the show

Brian Damage
06-21-2006, 01:43 AM
Yall sound crazy now, someone had to be spinned off to call Sanford Arms a Spinoff. And it was Esther who was in the NBC Photo with Phil Wheeler to promote the show

You are losing it Solomon.

TVFactFan
06-21-2006, 01:45 AM
You are losing it Solomon.



Well u tell me what made Sanford Arms a Spinoff?

Mr. Television
06-21-2006, 01:46 AM
Yall sound crazy now, someone had to be spinned off to call Sanford Arms a Spinoff. And it was Esther who was in the NBC Photo with Phil Wheeler to promote the show
It was the Sanford Arms that was spun off. :lol:

Brian Damage
06-21-2006, 01:47 AM
It was the Sanford Arms that was spun off. :lol:

Bingo!

TVFactFan
06-21-2006, 01:49 AM
So now they can spinoff a APT complex?-lol I don't Believe this

Brian Damage
06-21-2006, 01:52 AM
So now they can spinoff a APT complex?-lol I don't Believe this

Believe it!

Lamont
06-21-2006, 09:05 AM
tvresearcher, i just dont understand your logic illogic

at all

a new man bought the apt
he was the new star
the supporting cast remained

how hard a concept is that to handle?

TVFactFan
06-21-2006, 09:51 AM
tvresearcher, i just dont understand your logic illogic

at all

a new man bought the apt
he was the new star
the supporting cast remained

how hard a concept is that to handle?


I did not say Esther was the MAIN character, I said she was the one that was spinned off into the series along with Bubba

Lamont
06-21-2006, 09:55 AM
I did not say Esther was the MAIN character, I said she was the one that was spinned off into the series along with Bubba


that makes even less sense---

a spinoff is a show where u take a supporting character on 1 show and PROMOTE them up into the lead role on another show----

or you take the PREMISE of 1 show and spin it off with a new star

you do NOT spinoff a supporting actor and KEEP THEM in the supporting role

that is just plain nonesense

YES Phil wheeler was the NEW STAR, it was HIS SHOW, esther and bubba were just carried over from sanford and son

2+ 2 = 4:lol:

Mr. Television
06-21-2006, 10:14 AM
that makes even less sense---

a spinoff is a show where u take a supporting character on 1 show and PROMOTE them up into the lead role on another show----

or you take the PREMISE of 1 show and spin it off with a new star

you do NOT spinoff a supporting actor and KEEP THEM in the supporting role

that is just plain nonesense

YES Phil wheeler was the NEW STAR, it was HIS SHOW, esther and bubba were just carried over from sanford and son

2+ 2 = 4:lol:
Well you could say they spun off all the supporting characters onto their own show along with The Sanford Arms.

Lamont
06-21-2006, 01:53 PM
well u COULD say that but youd be wrong
PHIL WHEELER was set up to be the new lead star
b/c they new the supporting characters couldnt carry the show

TVFactFan
06-21-2006, 08:16 PM
that makes even less sense---

a spinoff is a show where u take a supporting character on 1 show and PROMOTE them up into the lead role on another show----

or you take the PREMISE of 1 show and spin it off with a new star

you do NOT spinoff a supporting actor and KEEP THEM in the supporting role

that is just plain nonesense

YES Phil wheeler was the NEW STAR, it was HIS SHOW, esther and bubba were just carried over from sanford and son

2+ 2 = 4:lol:




well if that is the case then sanford arms is not a spinoff then

TVFactFan
06-21-2006, 08:18 PM
well u COULD say that but youd be wrong
PHIL WHEELER was set up to be the new lead star
b/c they new the supporting characters couldnt carry the show


Neither could phil since the show was yanked after 4 weeks

Lamont
06-21-2006, 08:22 PM
that the Phil Wheeler character was just dull

they needed a lead star with some charisma and he just didnt have it!

ajm1972
08-03-2006, 07:45 PM
If you havent seen Checking In before how can you say it was a mistake to spinoff Florence's character. Or are you just saying that because the series only lasted a few shows?

Did any Jeffersons castmembers appear in any shows to help boost ratings?

In hindsight, FLO should have never had her own series OR should she have returned after Diane Ladd left the series?

Aj

TVFactFan
08-04-2006, 06:44 PM
If you havent seen Checking In before how can you say it was a mistake to spinoff Florence's character. Or are you just saying that because the series only lasted a few shows?

Did any Jeffersons castmembers appear in any shows to help boost ratings?

In hindsight, FLO should have never had her own series OR should she have returned after Diane Ladd left the series?

Aj



No I was just going by the length it was on the air. And no George or Weezy wasn't guest stars on Checking In. They probably would have if Checking In was picked up for the 1981-82 TV season

Lamont
08-05-2006, 09:30 AM
i watched all of these at the time

FLO was a one gimmick character and NEVER strong enough to carry a show
the show was BAD the only good ep was the thanksgiving show where he deadbeat dad came to down, that was nice

CHECKING IN was not bad at all, i liked it----but i think they realized there was only so much they could do with florence as the lead and decided to kill it

THE SANFORD ARMS (which IS a spinoff, u can spinoff a couch into a new show and its STILL a spinoff) was just awful!

TVFactFan
08-05-2006, 02:32 PM
i watched all of these at the time

FLO was a one gimmick character and NEVER strong enough to carry a show
the show was BAD the only good ep was the thanksgiving show where he deadbeat dad came to down, that was nice

CHECKING IN was not bad at all, i liked it----but i think they realized there was only so much they could do with florence as the lead and decided to kill it

THE SANFORD ARMS (which IS a spinoff, u can spinoff a couch into a new show and its STILL a spinoff) was just awful!


Sanford Arms was much more WATCHABLE than Flo and Checking In

Lamont
08-05-2006, 07:53 PM
i cannot believe u really believe that

SANFORD ARMS was awful

i remember when it was first coming on

i thought it woudl suck
BUT when i saw the opening and saw some of the old gang around, i thought MAYBE it would be ok

after watching the 1st ep i hated it so much
it was awful
and the PHIL WHEELER Character was just plain unfunny and i hated his kids!

TVFactFan
08-05-2006, 07:55 PM
i cannot believe u really believe that

SANFORD ARMS was awful

i remember when it was first coming on

i thought it woudl suck
BUT when i saw the opening and saw some of the old gang around, i thought MAYBE it would be ok

after watching the 1st ep i hated it so much
it was awful
and the PHIL WHEELER Character was just plain unfunny and i hated his kids!


Yes Sanford Arms was not Good but it was better than FLO. I rather watch a PBS special than FLO-lol

ajm1972
08-07-2006, 05:21 AM
Solomon, I think you have to reserve judgement on Checking In until you actually see the show, whereas you have seen Sanford Arms/Flo before. Who knows you might think Checking In is the best or the worst of the three!!

Aj

TVFactFan
08-07-2006, 01:49 PM
Solomon, I think you have to reserve judgement on Checking In until you actually see the show, whereas you have seen Sanford Arms/Flo before. Who knows you might think Checking In is the best or the worst of the three!!

Aj


I seen the Pilot and that was enough to know that I wouldn't be a fan-lol

Lamont
08-07-2006, 10:07 PM
Yes Sanford Arms was not Good but it was better than FLO. I rather watch a PBS special than FLO-lol


BUT at least FLO had a cool theme song....

THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN
AND THE BEER IS ALWAYS COLD
AT FLO'S YELLOW ROSE!"

:wave:

TVFactFan
08-07-2006, 10:25 PM
BUT at least FLO had a cool theme song....

THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN
AND THE BEER IS ALWAYS COLD
AT FLO'S YELLOW ROSE!"

:wave:


The Theme Song was even WORST. Usually when a show is bad the Theme Song is Good. But in Flo's case both were AWFUL

ajm1972
08-08-2006, 06:04 AM
I seen the Pilot and that was enough to know that I wouldn't be a fan-lol

You saw the Checking In pilot itself or the one hour Jeffersons that set up the series? I'm missing one half hour segment from the original CBS run.

Aj

TVFactFan
08-08-2006, 07:16 PM
You saw the Checking In pilot itself or the one hour Jeffersons that set up the series? I'm missing one half hour segment from the original CBS run.

Aj



The Set Up eps

nlearfan
08-11-2006, 07:32 PM
The person who decided to spin-off Aunt Esther, or to get technical, put her character on another show without promoting her to lead role, should never be able to write television again. Aunt Esther wasn't good in small roles on Sanford and Son. That's why I can't stand Season 5 of Sanford and Son.

TVFactFan
08-11-2006, 07:34 PM
The person who decided to spin-off Aunt Esther, or to get technical, put her character on another show without promoting her to lead role, should never be able to write television again. Aunt Esther wasn't good in small roles on Sanford and Son. That's why I can't stand Season 5 of Sanford and Son.


Have you had a chance to see Sanford Arms?