Has anyone heard about this? It looks to me that Jonathan Vick has a violent temper. He is currently awaiting trial for the murder of beauty parlor owner Dana Satterfield. Well, now he's facing an additional charge: assault. He is accused of attacking and threatening a jailer.

http://www.goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060516/NEWS/605160327/1051/NEWS01

According to the article, he was going to be a minister?! Wtf - that's REALLY creepy...

Also, it states that he is charged with kidnapping in the Dana Satterfield case. I mean, obviously, what he did to her was horrible, and the re-enactment showing her body after the attack was the scariest and possibly one of the most gruesome I had ever seen. However, if I recall correctly, she was found at the beauty salon where she had been working, and I don't see how kidnapping would be involved?

Dana Satterfield? I am sorry I get these mixed up a lot but was she the one who ran the beauty shop out of that trailer style building? It reminded me of a trailer house.

Dana Satterfield? I am sorry I get these mixed up a lot but was she the one who ran the beauty shop out of that trailer style building? It reminded me of a trailer house.

Yes. I mentioned that Dana was a beauty shop owner. It was in South Carolina during the summer of 1995. Unfortunately for the killer, a saleslady happened to be waiting outside the beauty shop. And that woman's eyewitness account led to a composite sketch of him.

According to the article, he was going to be a minister?! Wtf - that's REALLY creepy...

It makes no sense either. Jonathan Vick is violent. But aren't ministers supposed to discourage violence? He can't have it both ways.

Technically kidnapping charges can be pressed on anyone who makes a person stay any where against their will, so if Mrs. Satterfield tried to escape and and was kept in her beauty shop against her will then that is considered kidnapping.

I believe they are charging him with assualt and threating a jailer's life, he went before the judge and was once again granted bond so now it's at 550,000 dollars.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me which episode this was on, cause I missed it, and cant find it.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me which episode this was on, cause I missed it, and cant find it.

It was originally shown on May 16, 1997.

This guy is bad news. I hope he gets a long sentence at his upcoming murder trial so he'll be off the streets.

I see you said it was aired on May 16, 1997, how do you go about getting that show ? Are they available on dvd?

I see you said it was aired on May 16, 1997, how do you go about getting that show ? Are they available on dvd?

No, I regret to say that the segment is not available on DVD. So your best hope would be to catch again on Lifetime (whenever they rerun it).

Has anyone heard about this? It looks to me that Jonathan Vick has a violent temper. He is currently awaiting trial for the murder of beauty parlor owner Dana Satterfield. Well, now he's facing an additional charge: assault. He is accused of attacking and threatening a jailer.

http://www.goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060516/NEWS/605160327/1051/NEWS01
Wow! That is so awesome. I thought about this case from time to time over the years and never thought it would be solved.

This guy is bad news. I hope he gets a long sentence at his upcoming murder trial so he'll be off the streets.


Pfft...I hope he gets the chair (figuratively speaking, of course). Of course, I'm from Texas, and we're all for the death penalty here (at least the majority of us), but I'm not familiar with South Carolina's stance on the death penalty.

The UM segment about Dana Satterfield profoundly saddened me. She sounded like such a beautiful, sweet nice woman with everything to live for and with young children whom she truly cared about. These children have now spent the past decade without a mother thanks to the alleged callous actions of the perpertrator in question. If he is guilty as charged, I hope they throw the book at him. I feel so, so sorry for Ms. Satterfield and what she had to go through on that night of her tragic murder

Pfft...I hope he gets the chair (figuratively speaking, of course). Of course, I'm from Texas, and we're all for the death penalty here (at least the majority of us), but I'm not familiar with South Carolina's stance on the death penalty.

South Carolina has the death penalty. But under South Carolina law, the state's death penalty couldn't be sought against Jonathan Vick because he was 17 years old at the time of Dana Satterfield's murder. He was recently convicted of Dana's murder, and was sentenced to life in prison.

Here's a link to an article mentioning his conviction, as well as his status as a suspect in the 2002 disappearance of a woman named Heather Sellars.

http://www.carolinascw.com/news/article/vick_main_suspect_in_disappearance_of_another_woman

South Carolina has the death penalty. But under South Carolina law, the state's death penalty couldn't be sought against Jonathan Vick because he was 17 years old at the time of Dana Satterfield's murder. He was recently convicted of Dana's murder, and was sentenced to life in prison.

Here's a link to an article mentioning his conviction, as well as his status as a suspect in the 2002 disappearance of a woman named Heather Sellars.

http://www.carolinascw.com/news/article/vick_main_suspect_in_disappearance_of_another_woman


Well, hopefully he'll get a convinction there too, because he wasn't a minor then. I'm sorry but, I don't believe that you can rehabilitate people like that with such gruesome hatred and violence instilled in them

Well I am against the death penalty for a wide variety of reasons. Texas has executed, I am sure at least one innocent person and in my opinion that is unacceptable. However I am glad that Vick was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. If he is charged with that the murder of that woman that disappeared in 2002 than yes he would most likely get the DP if he didnt plead guilty.

Well I am against the death penalty for a wide variety of reasons. Texas has executed, I am sure at least one innocent person and in my opinion that is unacceptable. However I am glad that Vick was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. If he is charged with that the murder of that woman that disappeared in 2002 than yes he would most likely get the DP if he didnt plead guilty.

Well...I'm obviously not against it, and while it is quite probable that the innocent have been executed, the way life sentences...and well any sentence of time, really, work just are flawed. I'm not saying that I think all criminals should be executed or anything, but I'm speaking strictly in the case of murder, and generally the more gruesome ones, or serial killers. There's actually one case that comes to mind, in particular, of a man named Coral Eugene Watts. He basically murdered somewhere between 7 and 10 women in the United States before being arrested in Houston, and although the 7 to 10 were all that could be directly linked to him, he has claimed to have murdered closer to 100.

And by some miracle the guy plea bargained himself down to about 20 years, only getting arrested for some sort of weapons charge, and even though he claimed that he would murder again as soon as he was released, he was slated to be released in 2004 or 2005. Now, after looking him up, it turns out that they finally linked him to another crime, and this time charged him with murder so he was not in fact released. Now this is probably more the case of shoddy police work, but people like that whom have no respect for human life...I just don't understand how they get off so easy.

And though Vick got life (without parole??), he obviously will continue to cause harm to people, as he already assaulted a jailer, and I'm sure will be a source of much misery for these people for many years to come. I mean...what happens if next time the assault is so bad, he kills someone else while in prison? And it just keeps going??

Well I dont know, what if? I mean I get you support the DP and that sounds like it is fine for you so more power to you. You live in Texas where you guys are slaughtering people left and right. I cant say I agree with it but I dont live in Texas either so I dont have to deal with it. I live in Minnesota which is one of 12 states without the DP in some form or another, Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Michigan, Iowa, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Alaska and Hawaii are the others. Now our governor did make an attempt to bring it back but I dont think it ever even got out of the state house. IF they put it to a ballot here it would be close, I think they said a month or two ago a poll showed it would fail 46 percent to 44 percent with 10 percent undecided so it could pass. Wisconsin voters passed a non binding ballot measure to bring back the DP last year. However New York has basically all but got rid of theirs and it looks like New Jersey is close to getting rid of theirs as well. The nation really is moving away from the DP thankfully albeit slowly.

I mean I get the point you are trying to make in regards to Vick and others like him. However remember that he wasnt even convicted yet when he assaulted that guard. He was in a county jail awaiting trial. That could happen in Texas regardless if prosecutors were seeking the death penalty or not. Even on death row, inmates are removed from their cells a few times a week for showers, one hour of recreation or medical appointments. A guard assault really could happen regardless if an inmate is on death row or not. Also killing someone doesnt bring back whomever was killed. It is a revenge tactic, nothing more. Even a lot of supporters of the DP freely admit that is all it is. Basically the way I view it the DP simply has too many flaws for me to be comfortable with. If you are more comfortable with it, more power to you. However you do realize that it actually costs the state more to house inmates on and maintain a death row plus if you factor in the costs to execute a person than it does to keep them in prison for life right? Anyway, I hope I dont sound like a jerk, we both have strong views on the subject just on the opposite ends. Anyway, I would like to discuss this further if you are interested if you want to send me a PM or something like that I would be more than willing to discuss it with you on there because I dont want to take up anymore thread space since I tend to get on my soapbox and get off the topic at hand which is Jonathan Vick.

Well I dont know, what if? I mean I get you support the DP and that sounds like it is fine for you so more power to you. You live in Texas where you guys are slaughtering people left and right. I cant say I agree with it but I dont live in Texas either so I dont have to deal with it. I live in Minnesota which is one of 12 states without the DP in some form or another, Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Michigan, Iowa, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Alaska and Hawaii are the others. Now our governor did make an attempt to bring it back but I dont think it ever even got out of the state house. IF they put it to a ballot here it would be close, I think they said a month or two ago a poll showed it would fail 46 percent to 44 percent with 10 percent undecided so it could pass. Wisconsin voters passed a non binding ballot measure to bring back the DP last year. However New York has basically all but got rid of theirs and it looks like New Jersey is close to getting rid of theirs as well. The nation really is moving away from the DP thankfully albeit slowly.

I mean I get the point you are trying to make in regards to Vick and others like him. However remember that he wasnt even convicted yet when he assaulted that guard. He was in a county jail awaiting trial. That could happen in Texas regardless if prosecutors were seeking the death penalty or not. Even on death row, inmates are removed from their cells a few times a week for showers, one hour of recreation or medical appointments. A guard assault really could happen regardless if an inmate is on death row or not. Also killing someone doesnt bring back whomever was killed. It is a revenge tactic, nothing more. Even a lot of supporters of the DP freely admit that is all it is. Basically the way I view it the DP simply has too many flaws for me to be comfortable with. If you are more comfortable with it, more power to you. However you do realize that it actually costs the state more to house inmates on and maintain a death row plus if you factor in the costs to execute a person than it does to keep them in prison for life right? Anyway, I hope I dont sound like a jerk, we both have strong views on the subject just on the opposite ends. Anyway, I would like to discuss this further if you are interested if you want to send me a PM or something like that I would be more than willing to discuss it with you on there because I dont want to take up anymore thread space since I tend to get on my soapbox and get off the topic at hand which is Jonathan Vick.

Lol, it's fine - first thing I thought when I saw your reply (before reading it) was "oh ****, kadrmas is going to rip me a new one." I will PM you, but just to clarify...I wasn't saying that his actions toward the guard, or any future incidents that may occur with prison guards or other inmates has anything to do with whether or not Vick is on death row (obviously, since he didn't even get the death penalty), it's just...him. His personality/character/what have you. I'll just PM you about this...

Haha I am not really the rip a new you know what type. I might seem like it sometimes, it is just sometimes I get overly emotional about stuff I care about and it comes off bad. Well I do agree it doesnt speak well of Vick with the assaulting officers and stuff. It is just my opinion LWOP is sufficent, as a matter of fact I think that is actually worse than the DP. AT least with the DP you would know what was coming to you and know you probably wouldnt d ie elderly and frail in prison like you for sure would with LWOP.

Here in Minnesota LWOP is the worst we got, we have about 40 prisoners that are LWOP. However we have about 400 other lifers besides those that are life with parole eligibility after 30 years. Well some are eligible for parole after 30 years if the crime was committed in 1989 and after. Crimes committed before 1989 in Minnesota where a life sentence happens people became eligible for parole after 17 years. Most people plead guilty if facing a life sentence and most of the time even when they take it to trial they only get life with parole possible. That is for 1st degree murder. Usually only the worst of the worst of the worst get LWOP here.

For 2nd degree murder here you get anywhere from 15 to 40 years. I know there was a guy here recently who got 15 years for 2nd degree murder. He actually took it to trial and got that. The jury acquitted him of the more serious charges and convicted him of 2nd degree unintentional murder. However even me, mr. liberal on crime and punishment thought that verdict was total BS. Why did I think that? Well this guy on trial not only was accussed but admitted to cops that he beat a guy to death with a 2 x 4, how that isnt unintentional to hit a guy repeatedly with a piece of lumber is beyond me.

But I look forward to your pm. I know Bill O'Reilly always complains about Minnesota because he says Minnesota is one of the 5 most liberal states in the country on crime and punishment.

However since Pawlenty took over in 03 his commissioner of the department of corrections that he appoints has only paroled 2 lifers. Yes it is up to the commissioner to decide who gets paroled in terms of lifers since that is the only people we have parole for, the rest have pre-determined sentencing guidelines.

One of the two she has paroled is Larry Race who was profiled on UM in the late 80's and there are big questions regarding whether he was really guilty anyway. Anyway, sorry for straying yet again, I look forward to your PM.