on CBS. Well this song set the tone for the comedy as you see James and Florida riding in back of a station wagon being taken from New York to Southside Chicago by their Cousin Wilbert

"We amovin on down to the southside, to a Ran down apartment in the sky

We amovin on down to the southside, we never got a piece of the pie.

It was hard to keep food in the kitchen because of the numerous bills

If we had did more tryin, maybe we might have got up that hill

Now we are down in Low Leagues,

Because we didn't do our best

As long we live, it's you and me baby and ain't nothing wrong with that

we amovin on down to the southside, to a ran down apt in the sky

we movin on down to the southside, we never got a piece of the PIE


Then I think James and Florida gets out the Station Wagon and say bye to the cousin and you see both walk in the project building looking depressed and the Opening Credits ends with a camera shot of the 17th Floor Apt

Sung by Roxie Roker in January of 1974




I hope to hear that song some day but I have to find the Original CBS PIlot first. HELP!!!

Solomon, you're killing me here!

:rofl:

i do not understand your (il)logic on this one

a spinoff DOES NOT have to have a seperate pilot episode to be a spinoff

FOR INSTANCE-----

SUPPOSE that I am one of the writes of 24 and i decide that PRESIDENT LOGANS character should have his own show

I DO NOT NEED TO DO A PILOT that airs as a seperate entity or as part of "24"
i can just start off next season with LOGAN KNOWS BEST and its

STILL repeat STILL a spinoff

you are just plain wrong on this one

and going on and on and on about it even after Norman Lear and every tv book in the world CLEARLY states it is a spinoff

its cuckoo for cocoa puffs!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: Good one Solomon.

OMG, I thought you were kidding at first, but that was for real???? I am DYING to see that!!! If you ever find that song or that pilot, you have to post it. I wonder why they don't show that sometime on TVLand??? I'm sure everyone would love to see it. I never knew that existed, that was some good research!!!

OMG, I thought you were kidding at first, but that was for real???? I am DYING to see that!!! If you ever find that song or that pilot, you have to post it. I wonder why they don't show that sometime on TVLand??? I'm sure everyone would love to see it. I never knew that existed, that was some good research!!!


No actually i was joking and making fun of the members below who think GT is a spinoff


janice
brian damage
Brieannas21
ThomasE

IS a spinoff
EVERYONE knows it but tvresearcher

u would think with all his "research" he would have learned it by now!

IS a spinoff
EVERYONE knows it but tvresearcher

u would think with all his "research" he would have learned it by now!


well i did find a article with the executive producer saying GT was not a spinoff in 1974. So i would ay that was good research

well i did find a article with the executive producer saying GT was not a spinoff in 1974. So i would ay that was good research


I have yet to see that scanned article, which wouldn't make any difference in my beliefs that GT is a spinoff :lol:

I have yet to see that scanned article, which wouldn't make any difference in my beliefs that GT is a spinoff :lol:

Good point made, Briennas dear... :wave: :lol: :cool:
Unless we see that particular article or whatever it may be, Solomon buddy, you're the "little man" in this whole not-a-spinoff matter... Sorry, kiddo...
THE MAJORITY RULES...GT is indeed a spinoff of Maude, and that's all there is to it.
(As a certain special sitcom character told her big brother during the end of a checkers game)
"Now, move somewhere, OR Give UP!" :lol: :lol: :happyface :happyface

well i did find a article with the executive producer saying GT was not a spinoff in 1974. So i would ay that was good research
On imdb.com, it states that Allan Mannings was a GT producer from 1975 to 1977. Didn't the show start in 1974?

If so, then Mannings wasn't involved in the process anyway. You know, the spinoff process. :D

That does not even matter. I read that article as well or I think I did and I remember Allan Mannings saying something to the effect that it is "not really a spinoff". I remember and understand where he is coming from. The term "really" is like "eh" it is but it really isn't but it is. Some people on this board who will remain nameless are selecting certain things to go by to keep their dream alive. Norman Lear's needle has bursted that balloon.

BTW, if the person who will remain nameless wants to make fun of us for thinking that the show is a spinoff, then they will have to poke fun at the other 11 people who voted in favor of the spinoff poll along, with the late John Ritter, Megan Mullauy countless others and Norman Lear himself and the dictionary that describes what a spinoff is. LOL. LOL.

That does not even matter. I read that article as well or I think I did and I remember Allan Mannings saying something to the effect that it is "not really a spinoff". I remember and understand where he is coming from. The term "really" is like "eh" it is but it really isn't but it is. Some people on this board who will remain nameless are selecting certain things to go by to keep their dream alive. Norman Lear's needle has bursted that balloon.

BTW, if the person who will remain nameless wants to make fun of us for thinking that the show is a spinoff, then they will have to poke fun at the other 11 people who voted in favor of the spinoff poll along, with the late John Ritter, Megan Mullauy countless others and Norman Lear himself and the dictionary that describes what a spinoff is. LOL. LOL.



That article should always have this debate end in a way like i said before-We will never really know the real answer, especially since someone involved in the production of the show said something the complete opposite of what Lear said.

That article should always have this debate end in a way like i said before-We will never really know the real answer, especially since someone involved in the production of the show said something the complete opposite of what Lear said.


Whatever Mannings said doesn't matter since Norman Lear DEVELOPED the show. So Lear trumps anything Mannings or anyone else says. The Developer has the last say

Whatever Mannings said doesn't matter since Norman Lear DEVELOPED the show. So Lear trumps anything Mannings or anyone else says. The Developer has the last say


Whatver-lol

Allan Mannings obviously is lost about certain facts & things... :rolleyes:
And yes, Norman Lear IS the man who did the actual development of GT, and ultimately put it forth in full force. So what Allan says doesn't even matter or cut it!
There. ;) :p

Whatver-lol


You KNOW I'm right, I can feel it :lol: You just don't what to say it. Go ahead and whisper that I'm right, I want tell a soul :lol:

No actually i was joking and making fun of the members below who think GT is a spinoff


janice
brian damage
Brieannas21
ThomasE
Oh damn, I was hoping there was some hidden, lost thing we didn't know about. Well, I feel like an ass, lol :crazy:

Oh damn, I was hoping there was some hidden, lost thing we didn't know about. Well, I feel like an ass, lol :crazy:


No don't feel like ass, it was just posted to generate a laugh. "We are movin on down to Ran down apt in the SKY"-LOL

No don't feel like ass, it was just posted to generate a laugh. "We are movin on down to Ran down apt in the SKY"-LOL
Those words were pretty damn funny, good job!

Those words were pretty damn funny, good job!


And the Original Title of the show was going to be the "The Evans"-lol

That was funny Soloman
But I'M done with the debate called "TO CALL GT A SPIN OFF OR NOT TO CALL GT A SPIN OFF"
LOL

That was funny Soloman
But I'M done with the debate called "TO CALL GT A SPIN OFF OR NOT TO CALL GT A SPIN OFF"
LOL


Don't give up Trishalla, we still have supporters like Irene and Gilligan Fanatic

No don't feel like ass, it was just posted to generate a laugh. "We are movin on down to Ran down apt in the SKY"-LOL

LOL @ Solomon/TVResearcher...
Embarrassing, but too FUNNY what he said right above...
And somewhat true too, concerning GT...LOL :lol: :cool:

Don't give up Trishalla, we still have supporters like Irene and Gilligan Fanatic


I can only go by what has been given to me. My apologies to you but your reasoning behind it just does not cut it for me. I have been convinced through the following essential sources:

Esther Rolle's wanting to remain Florida Evans on both shows
Norman Lear's Interview
A spinoff definition researched by Brieanna's 21

I already knew that it was a spinoff even before I came across these findings. These findings just made my belief even stronger.

LOL. I will say it again, the king has left the building..."King Lear that is". :wave:

Don't give up Trishalla, we still have supporters like Irene and Gilligan Fanatic

I am more undecided just because I think if it weren't for Maude there would never have been Good Times. Maybe not a spin off but it would never have happened with Esther Rolle if she weren't on it.

I am more undecided just because I think if it weren't for Maude there would never have been Good Times. Maybe not a spin off but it would never have happened with Esther Rolle if she weren't on it.


Well that's cool, as long as you are not supporting Janice-lol

Well that's cool, as long as you are not supporting Janice-lol


I'm still waiting for you to say that I'm right about Lear :lol:

I'm still waiting for you to say that I'm right about Lear :lol:


The only thing u was right about was GT being a Lear Show like One Day at a Time, and Mary Hartman, and Hot L Baltimore

Well everyone is entitled. I am not convinced. I have read Solomon's arguments inlcuding that interview by Eric Monte. I tried to take everything into consideration but this thing is a spinoff. No matter how one look's at it. It is a fractured spinoff. I will admit that is it a fractured spinoff. Heck, I don't even base my belief on what the creators say, an idea from one world into another does count for a spinoff. "Girlfriends" spun off some new show that does not have any characters that crossed over. The idea from "Girlfriends" was used to give the spinoff its structure. No fussing. No arguning. I am just saying that it is a spinoff. In television, spinoffs can be presented differently not by one's belief system as to what a spinoff should be. I don't think I will be convinced otherwise.

The only thing u was right about was GT being a Lear Show like One Day at a Time, and Mary Hartman, and Hot L Baltimore


And Lear Developed the show, In which should know what it is.

Well everyone is entitled. I am not convinced. I have read Solomon's arguments inlcuding that interview by Eric Monte. I tried to take everything into consideration but this thing is a spinoff. No matter how one look's at it. It is a fractured spinoff. I will admit that is it a fractured spinoff. Heck, I don't even base my belief on what the creators say, an idea from one world into another does count for a spinoff. "Girlfriends" spun off some new show that does not have any characters that crossed over. The idea from "Girlfriends" was used to give the spinoff its structure. No fussing. No arguning. I am just saying that it is a spinoff. In television, spinoffs can be presented differently not by one's belief system as to what a spinoff should be. I don't think I will be convinced otherwise.


The character that was spinned off did appear on Girlfriends once for the Set Up episode.

I'll accepts that. However, I'm still not convinced. GT is a spinoff of Maude.

oldie but a sitcomsonline goodie from the past-lol

I remember this topic! This was four and a half years ago. LOLOL. "Movin' - on - down - to -the - projects -...

I remember this topic! This was four and a half years ago. LOLOL. "Movin' - on - down - to -the - projects -...


something for the newbies

something for the newbies

Oh, Lordy! LOL.:lol: It's nice to hear from you again Solomon.