Was he ever captured?I know he was featured on UM and the FBI's Ten Most Wanted for killing a Pennsylvania cop.One of the most memorable mug shots if anyone remembers.

He was never caught. My guess is that he's dead by now.

The latest tip on Donald Eugene Webb came in early 2005, when a man resembling him was spotted in the West Coast. But it wasn't Webb.

Since he had ties to Massachusetts, I remember one of my local stations doing a story about Webb sometime during the 1990s. His family was less than cooperative; they claimed that he was dead, but provided no evidence to back up that claim. This only strengthened the belief that Donald Webb is alive.

It seems possible (if not probable) that Donald Webb is deceased. Personally, I hope that's the case. But whether we like it or not, he is considered alive until it is proven or disproven.

Webb is still offically on the FBI top ten most wanted list. If Webb were alive today he would be in his mid 70's. I think the chances are 50/50 that is he dead. However sometimes I like to think he is dead but then I think he very well could be alive and doing pretty well and he knows that the cops probably arent looking too hard for him because they assume he is dead.

I do know that if the FBI had reason to believe, or did believe that he was dead, they would take him off the top ten most wanted list. I suspect if nothing else, he will be removed from the list soon so we can add another criminal who we have a better chance of apprehending.



http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/tenfaq.htm#8

I suspect if nothing else, he will be removed from the list soon so we can add another criminal who we have a better chance of apprehending.

Well, they don't make "most wanted" lists based on who has the best chance of being caught. It doesn't work that way. Besides, it would be an insult to families of murder victims whose accused killer or killers are on the run.

Webb is on the list because he is wanted for the murder of a police officer, and it's a crime that law enforcement agencies take very seriously (and personally, I'm sure). It makes no difference whether a fugitive is easy or hard to find. When they are on any "most wanted" list, it means the authorities want to nab them in the worst way.

Hey Mr. Omniscient, I know that you believe this is an alternative surname for yourself, but you are mistaken. You are also mistaken by perceiving my post in the way that you did. What I meant was: 1) We have little to no chance of catching Donald Eugene Webb, and 2) We have a much better chance to catch someone who we are certain still exists. 3) The spot could be filled with someone the extra exposure could help apprehend.

Hey Mr. Omniscient, I know that you believe this is an alternative surname for yourself, but you are mistaken.

I'll bet that name is a euphemism for know-it-all.

Alright kids simmer down. Okay, lets compromise on this one huh? Or at least attempt to. Donald Webb I believe was a Jewel thief and a burglar. . I could be wrong on that. I dont know how many murders he committed but it is known he committed at least one when he murdered a police chief in a small town in Pennsylvania who was trying to apprehend him. It was said though that Webb not only killed the chief but beat him to a pulp first and then shot him. However Webb has been on this list for a very long time and it seems like they dont get any big leads on this guy. Hell even Brad Bishop isnt on the top 10. They could put that guy that was a police officer in South Carolina that was molesting a girl who was put into his care and he also murdered his wife before he skipped town. Dan Hiers? I dont know if I spelled his last name right but he is on the U.S. Marshals top 15 but that isnt quite the same as being on the Top 10 of the FBI. Is Donald Webb dead? It sure is possible, Webb would be in his mid 70's if alive today. I have this feeling Webb is alive and he has lived freely now for over 25 years after the Chief's murder and I am sure he thinks he will never be caught. That is why you wont see him removed from the list until they know for sure he is dead. I have heard his relatives have said he is dead but I also know they have a history of being very uncooperative with the authorities.

Hey Mr. Omniscient, I know that you believe this is an alternative surname for yourself, but you are mistaken.

That's a bit out of line if meant as an insult. However, Kane is quite all-knowing in terms of cases and case updates, so your title to him is fitting in a positive manner.

I think that even if he is in his mid-seventies, he is still a dangerous man. He may not want to kill or anything, and I imagine he is most likely confined to a home or wherever he is, but he should still be considered dangerous. He will kill, and at his age he most likely needs medication. I believe that he will most likely die without ever being caught, but he has truly gotten away with the crime because even if he is caught, he can very easily die before the trial or the beginning of his tenure in jail.

It's sickening.

That's a bit out of line if meant as an insult.

My apologies Goofyman. I was not aware that you have attained Moderator status so soon.

I did not appreciate the manner in which Kane responded to my post. He was incorrect in his perception of my point and he retorted with rude condescending remarks that were unprovoked and uncalled for. Kane made his statements, I made mine, and it was over. You interceding and jumping to Kane's defense in a finished, minor, man to man spat is what is "out of line."

However, Kane is quite all-knowing in terms of cases and case updates, so your title to him is fitting in a positive manner.

Perhaps this is not the proper forum for you to show your admiration for Kane. If you feel compelled to build a relationship with him you can do it elsewhere. However, I agree that Kane is an asset to this forum. His arrogant and condescending behavior towards many others on this board is the only issue I have with him. If you would actually have read the majority of his posts you would have discovered this for yourself.

Okay obviously we're not always going to agree with everyone's personality and posts but lets get back to the UM topic at hand.

I do agree with Mercy that there should be some way where the aging criminals could somehow be moved off the FBI's Top 10 after a certain period of time. Of course I'm not saying they shouldn't look for him, but when you've been on the run for decades I think that high profile spot on the top 10 would be better served with someone who is recently on the run and would have a better chance of being spotted.

I agree with you that he should be taken off of the list. I know that they want to find him desperately, but honestly, as the years tick by it becomes less and less likely that he's even alive, and the chances drop even lower that he is capable of initiating crime, let alone defend himself. They should always keep looking for him until it becomes inherently useless (like setting up a modern day manhunt for Jack the Ripper), but he shouldn't garner the publicity of the highest level of FBI wanted levels. He's already pulled off the perfect crime, though. They know him, and yet he cannot be found. As I said before, no matter what happens to him, he's gotten away with it.

And mercy: The one fatal flaw of using text as a form of communication is the inability to adequately express emotion behind a statement. Sarcasm, anger, depression, happiness; all can be found in a single phrase. In context, some emotions can be deciphered, but it really can't be done for everything. How you may read something may differ from how another reads it and how the author intended on it being read.

And mercy: The one fatal flaw of using text as a form of communication is the inability to adequately express emotion behind a statement. Sarcasm, anger, depression, happiness; all can be found in a single phrase. In context, some emotions can be deciphered, but it really can't be done for everything. How you may read something may differ from how another reads it and how the author intended on it being read.

Very well stated! I agree with you, as this often is the case and cause for disputes on message boards and chat rooms. I really did not mean anything negative by my remarks. I was probably somewhat oversensitive. I have been reading this board almost everyday for over two years now and I rarely post (this is only my 100th). When I do, it can be frustrating when another regular totally misses your point, and then responds in a dismissive, condescending fashion. That being said, I harbor no ill will or resentments towards anybody and would really like to coexist peacefully with other members of this forum.

Very well stated! I agree with you, as this often is the case and cause for disputes on message boards and chat rooms. I really did not mean anything negative by my remarks. I was probably somewhat oversensitive. I have been reading this board almost everyday for over two years now and I rarely post (this is only my 100th). When I do, it can be frustrating when another regular totally misses your point, and then responds in a dismissive, condescending fashion. That being said, I harbor no ill will or resentments towards anybody and would really like to coexist peacefully with other members of this forum.

In response to the criticism I have been receiving on this thread, I will say that Goofyman hit the nail in the head when he realized that emotions can't always be determined from the content of what is written or printed. I feel that Goofyman spoke for me when he pointed that out. Moreover, I'm familiar with the following old adage: it's not what you say, but how you say it.

Mercy1825, I'm glad to hear that you harbor no ill feelings. And I can assure you that the feeling is mutual. :cool:

Just arrived in this chatroom.. In refeence to Donald Eugene webb.. Has anybody seen or heard from him since 1981?

He has been on the FBi list the longest of any criminiall

and what happends when someone reports a tip to the FBI

Has anyone heard any more on the Donald Eugene Webb case the last couple weeks?

no...

I personally think the guy might be dead, just no proof yet to get him off the top ten list.

My name is John
I'm looking for Don

As I search the name "Donald Eugene Webb"
He would like me to presume he is dead

Speeding through Saxonburg PA, he was stopped
Only to pull out a gun and shoot a cop

He caused so much grief
Because he killed the chief

At 75 years old, 5 foot 9
I wonder where he spends his time

In order to help someone catch the villain
I ought to mention that he's allergic to pen
icillin

"Don may be tattooed on the web of his right hand
On his chest may be tattooed "Ann"

Don is a lover of dogs, flashy dresser, and quite chipper
Known also to be a big tipper

Besides killing the chief, Don would often get up early
And make a few extra bucks by burglarizing some jewelry

He has made a lot of trails
But I am on his tail

The master of assumed identity
For which he has many

With all his aliases and tattoos
I just decided to nickname him DEW

He's the longest running fugitive in the U.S.A.
But he will be caught one day

To be a cop killer
Should be no thriller

In all DEW respect
I just said, 'Oh what the heck'

DEW has been running so long
He may have forgotten what he did wrong

So one might say
Run and hide or turn self in and pray

To do or not to DEW
That is the question

So as I say goodbye
I must say I'm waiting to say hi

With the world's eyes looking through thick and thin
One set will certainly turn him in

I read in a book about the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List that there is speculation that Webb worked for an organized crime family (used them to fence his burglary takes) and possibly was taken in by them and told that he could trust them. The family then took him and killed him shortly after he killed the cop so there can be no heat brought upon them, which explains why Webb's trail ended in the town where he killed the cop.

I read in a book about the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List that there is speculation that Webb worked for an organized crime family (used them to fence his burglary takes) and possibly was taken in by them and told that he could trust them. The family then took him and killed him shortly after he killed the cop so there can be no heat brought upon them, which explains why Webb's trail ended in the town where he killed the cop.

That makes a great deal of sense actually.

I have no idea of Webb is still alive. That story about him being knocked off by the mob is very possible, but I just think Webb is to savvy of a criminal to get knocked off by the mob like that. Webb's family has said he is dead and that is possible, but I wonder if he actually is dead or if his family is just covering for him hoping the cops and the FBI will forget about him and take him off the top 10. I guess it wouldnt surprise me if he is dead. However he very well could still be alive too. But is it time to take him off the FBI top 10? Yes it is. However they wont take him off until they either catch him or until they have proof he is dead.

I read in a book about the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List that there is speculation that Webb worked for an organized crime family (used them to fence his burglary takes) and possibly was taken in by them and told that he could trust them. The family then took him and killed him shortly after he killed the cop so there can be no heat brought upon them, which explains why Webb's trail ended in the town where he killed the cop.

what book is that? that sounds like a good book...

It is called "FBI's Ten Most Wanted" written by Dary Matera.
It has in depth stories of Whitey Bulger, Robert Fisher, Victor Gerena, Eric Rudolph, Hopeton Eric Brown, Osama Bin Laden, and of course, Donald Eugene Webb. It is very interesting and includes other stories about the 10 Most Wanted list and some of it's members.

Glad to be back. Learning to do this al lover.

I,m still re-learning. So if anyone has heard anything about D.E.W. lately, please let me hear. Any way you can get it to me. I,m not real sure what page or thread I'm on, but I,m giving it a try.

Is anyone familiar with the Tara Grinstead missing-person in Georgia?

Is anyone familiar with the Tara Grinstead missing-person in Georgia?

Yes I've heard of that one. She's that beauty queen/teacher that went missing in '05. Any new news about her?

Yes I've heard of that one. She's that beauty queen/teacher that went missing in '05. Any new news about her?
No.I have not heard any thing new.

I found some interesting documents, etc. referring to Donald Eugene Webb. if interested in reading them, let me know and i will give you the web address

Hey whatever happened to Skunk Ape? Also GreatGarrett2 hasn't posted in several weeks it seems.

I was reading a thread recently and saw a post by Crushed Velevet, and was so glad as I thought she returned, but then I saw the time/date stamp and realized it was from a long time ago.

In reference to the Tara Grinstead case in Georgia ,I would like to see the proper people (dog handler) let Tara's dog loose and watch what it could do looking for her. Put a tracking device on it,(etc.) No one has ever considered what her dog could be capable of doing. No-one or anything new Tara better than her Dog.

Where's everyone at?

Has anyone heard anything on DEW the last couple days?

I found some interesting documents, etc. referring to Donald Eugene Webb. if interested in reading them, let me know and i will give you the web address

I'll look at them.

Can you post the web address?

So, if Donald Eugene Webb is dead or very old then it looks like he got away with the murder of a police officer which is about the most egregious murder you can committ.

Hopefully, the theory in the FBI 10 Most Wanted book is true that D.E.W. was killed by his own Mafia cohorts long ago which means justice has long since been served.

I'll look at them.

Can you post the web address?
I'll bring it with me tomorrow. Sorry I didn't have is with me today

Will bring it with me tommorrow. Big3sCompanyFan.

I'll look at them.

Can you post the web address?
Florida iD at 40213

I'll look at them.

Can you post the web address?
United States of Federal Claims-Patton Vs Usfdc

Federal Claims Court.

I'll look at them.

Can you post the web address?
Forgot to tell you to go to google florida id at 402:13.

DEW was Finally taken off the FBI top ten most wanted list... they must of finally figured that he was dead or is very old and doesnt pose a threat no more.

Looks like Webb was removed from the list yesterday as a matter of fact. A woman named Shauntey L. Henderson made her debut on the list yesterday on America's Most Wanted but was actually captured hours before being officially added.

Quote from : mercy1825 "I do know that if the FBI had reason to believe, or did believe that he was dead, they would take him off the top ten most wanted list. I suspect if nothing else, he will be removed from the list soon so we can add another criminal who we have a better chance of apprehending."

How many yrs did it take to remove "D.B. Cooper" from the FBI list?
Still the only unsolved skyjacking. I have followed this Webb guy for a long time - I always think maybe he will show up in a food line at the mission.
He has a very prominent features and I don't see how he could alter himself too much.

He would have had to assume another identification and SS number. It would make one suspicious if a man his age wasn't drawing SS. Expect that if he is alive he lives on the streets or he is one of the unidentified vagrants that they find dead.

Does anyone know what skills he may have had...as far as making a living.?

Hey whatever happened to Skunk Ape?

I'm back and I still think this guy is dead and the FBI seemed to have come to that conclusion as well. How old would he be in the slight chance that he was still alive? In his 80s or 90s? Such a ghoulish and distinctive face would have to have been spotted by now no matter where he would have went to.

Does anyone know what skills he may have had...as far as making a living.?

He was a salesman... Jewelry, real estate and cars. He also was a restaurant manager and a vending machine repairman. He had a few skills that he would be able to make a living doing. If he is alive today, he would be 77 years old.

I wouldn't rule out D.E.W. working as a Federal Protected Witnes for the F.B.I. I wondered why I didn't see him on the F.B.I.'s list a week or so ago. He been getting a lot of publicity lately so maybe they took him off to kill down the publicity. I've waited so anxiously to see this guy get caught, that it fills like a big let-down to me. I still bet a 100% that Donald is out there alive somwhere. Police keep your eyes and ears opened.

Today July -14- 2008 is "DONALD EUGENE WEBB's" (DEW) BIRTHDAY. I believe he is -77-Yrs. old today. Wouldn't it be GREAT is he were captured today for his birthday? Would you all pass this around to anywhere you can Post it? Thank You!

I wouldn't rule out D.E.W. working as a Federal Protected Witnes for the F.B.I. I wondered why I didn't see him on the F.B.I.'s list a week or so ago. He been getting a lot of publicity lately so maybe they took him off to kill down the publicity. I've waited so anxiously to see this guy get caught, that it fills like a big let-down to me. I still bet a 100% that Donald is out there alive somwhere. Police keep your eyes and ears opened.

I rule it out. He would have to be arrested before being offered the Federal Protection Witness, which would have made the headnews.

I think that he is either deceased or that because of his old age the F.B.I. decided that he wasn't a priority anymore Which I find totally idiotic: The guy is a cop killer and should haved remained on the list until he is 110 years old.

I agree, DEW should still be on the TOP TEN MOST WANTED LIST, I think it sets a bad example for the other nine.

According to the FBI, one of Webb's aliases was Stanley Portas. On the Social Security Death Index websitehttp://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/, I found a Stanley Portas who died in Maine in 1997. On this website, Portas' birth year is listed as 1931 - same as Webb's listed year of birth.

Probably a long shot, but I wonder if this Portas could really be Webb?

Should I report this to the FBI, on the off-chance that they haven't looked into this already?

According to the FBI, one of Webb's aliases was Stanley Portas. On the Social Security Death Index websitehttp://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/, I found a Stanley Portas who died in Maine in 1997. On this website, Portas' birth year is listed as 1931 - same as Webb's listed year of birth.

Probably a long shot, but I wonder if this Portas could really be Webb?

Should I report this to the FBI, on the off-chance that they haven't looked into this already?

Very interesting find Freshwater! I think you should definitely let the FBI know. It couldn't hurt.

I just sent an e-mail tip. Guess I'll see what happens. I still think it's a long shot, but I don't believe in leaving any stone unturned when hunting for a cop killer.

I just sent an e-mail tip. Guess I'll see what happens. I still think it's a long shot, but I don't believe in leaving any stone unturned when hunting for a cop killer.

That's a wise decision, Freshwater. The worst that could happen is that it turns out to be a false lead. But if the alternative is failing to send a legitimate tip, then one has no other choice but to risk sending a tip may be a long shot.

If he were dead...wouldn't the family take the cops to his grave and say, "See? Here he is. Now stop bugging us!"

This is why I believe he is probably still alive...or has died and the family doesn't know where he's buried.

From October 2008 on FoxNews.com:

"Five months later, Webb, a career criminal and master of assumed identities who specializes in robbing jewelry stores, was placed on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list. In March 2007, after 26 years on the list — the longest of any wanted person — his name was taken off.

The FBI said he doesn’t fit the criteria to be on the list anymore, and although they won't officially say, some believe that Webb could be dead.

Special Agent Gail Marcinkiewicz, a spokeswoman for the FBI’s Boston office, said this doesn’t mean Webb’s case is closed.

“There’s no indication he’s resumed any type of criminal activity, and as a result may not pose a dangerous threat to the American public,” Marcinkiewicz told FOXNews.com. “What happens in a case like this is if leads come in, we are going to follow up on whatever leads do come in.”

Marcinkiewicz said one of the main goals of the Most Wanted List is to generate publicity, and in a case like this, the publicity wasn’t getting any leads.

According to the television show “America’s Most Wanted,” the last sighting of Webb was in 2006, in Spain. Marcinkiewicz couldn’t confirm the sighting, and declined to comment on when the FBI received its last lead in the case.

The FBI describes Webb, now in his late 70s, as a flashy dresser and a big tipper who loves dogs."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444213,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime

I'm a bit confused about the newest info, and I don't recall a whole lot about the case, but....

Is it possible that the name Stanley Portas wasn't actually Webb's alias, but was a stolen identity? And the real Stanley Portas died back in '97?

Webb took the alias "Stanley J. Portas" because it was the name of his wife Lillian's deceased former husband. He died in 1958. (Source - "FBI's Ten Most Wanted" by Dary Matera. I found an online version of this book)

Now, there probably are other guys named Stanley Portas in this large country of ours. And one of them is probably the guy who died in 1997.

Webb took the alias "Stanley J. Portas" because it was the name of his wife Lillian's deceased former husband. He died in 1958. (Source - "FBI's Ten Most Wanted" by Dary Matera. I found an online version of this book)

Now, there probably are other guys named Stanley Portas in this large country of ours. And one of them is probably the guy who died in 1997.

Thanks for the info! :)

Probably still alive, should be on the list still I reckon.

This is the oddest post I've ever come across. I think my favorite part is kadrmas15 going out on a limb and declaring "...the chances are 50/50 that is he dead".

Anybody think Donald Eugene Webb may have killed Jean Elroy? See here:

Sketch of Jean Elroy's killer:
http://www.unsolved.com/images/cases/mur_jean_ellroy3.jpg

Photo of Donald Eugene Webb:

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2010/top10_fugitives/donald_eugene_webb.jpg

Just a random observation.

I just sent an e-mail tip. Guess I'll see what happens. I still think it's a long shot, but I don't believe in leaving any stone unturned when hunting for a cop killer.

Did you ever get any correspondence back confirming your hunch?

Anybody think Donald Eugene Webb may have killed Jean Elroy? See here:

Sketch of Jean Elroy's killer:

Sketch of Jean Elroy's killer:


Photo of Donald Eugene Webb:


OK. Sketch analysis. Be kind guys. I'm probably way off with this.:(

1. Nose

a. The noses are different. First subject's nose is upturned. Webb's appears to be downturned.

b. First subjects nose bridge is longer than Webb's

2. Hair
a. First subject's hairline is different from Webb's. Their hair recession is different. The first subjects hair receeds from both corners. Webb's is receeding from one corner.

b. Sideburn style is different. That may just be a style change
c. Of course hair style is different, but that can always change.

3. Ears
a. Ears are different. First subjects is protruding. Webb;s are pinned back more.
b. Can't tell the earlobes on Webb. It looks like Webb's earlobes are longer.

4. Jaw
The first subject's jaw is more V-shaped. Webb's looks more lantern jawed.

5. Mouth
a. Webb seems to have a wider mouth than the first subject,
b. The photo of Webb is a little unclear, but Webb's lower lip seems fuller and larger than the first subject.

Offhand i would say they were photos of two different people.

Did you ever get any correspondence back confirming your hunch?

Nope. I've never heard anything back regarding the tip I sent.

Webb is probably still alive.

However some clues would make you think otherwise. He was injured in the murder and did not seek medical help and his blood type was found in his car when it was abandoned. I'm not certain of this but I believe his SS number was being used by someone other than him.

I agree, DEW should still be on the TOP TEN MOST WANTED LIST, I think it sets a bad example for the other nine.
:rotflmao:

I think he's dead, and I think he's been dead since December 1980 or early 1981.

I think he was also shot during the struggle. If he didn't die from blood loss, I think he probably succumbed to an infected wound. His associates may have then disposed of his body.

I think he's dead, and I think he's been dead since December 1980 or early 1981.

I think he was also shot during the struggle. If he didn't die from blood loss, I think he probably succumbed to an infected wound. His associates may have then disposed of his body.

I have heard a similar version of the story- that his injuries would have needed attention or he would be in trouble .....

I have heard a similar version of the story- that his injuries would have needed attention or he would be in trouble .....

It's JMO on the theory of course, but there are actual facts (ie, the blood in Webb's vehicle) to support it, as opposed to the notion that he's still living--which to me seems founded on hearsay more than anything else.

It's JMO on the theory of course, but there are actual facts (ie, the blood in Webb's vehicle) to support it, as opposed to the notion that he's still living--which to me seems founded on hearsay more than anything else.

Never thought he was still alive after all of those years either. Wasn't he just a petty jewel thief? Find it hard to believe he would have been able to hide out all of those years without anyone seeing him or reporting his whereabouts.

Never thought he was still alive after all of those years either. Wasn't he just a petty jewel thief? Find it hard to believe he would have been able to hide out all of those years without anyone seeing him or reporting his whereabouts.

Yes, and that's another thing--the guy was a small-timer. It's not like he was some well-connected mafia don. He was just a hood in a loose confederation of other hoods.

Webb's body would likely have been found had he died from the shootout, there was a confirmed sighting of him in July 1981 and unconfirmed sightings since then.

I believe he is still alive somewhere.

Do you have more details about this July 81 sighting ?

I've never seen anything from a LE agency stating that July 1981 sighting is confirmed, nor on any of the others that have been reported over the years.

Deleting my posts about Webb as now I think he is deceased.

Donald Eugene Webb, still alive? any thoughts?

Donald Eugene Webb, still alive? any thoughts?

I don't think he's alive. No real reason I think that just that he would be in his early 80's now and you would think a life on the run he would be hard. I would love to find out what happened to him after the murder. Did he commit suicide, go on the run or die by murder or natural causes?

I think he died in 1980 or early 1981 shortly after the shootout. I think he was hit, did not seek medical attention, and either died from injuries sustained from the round itself or infection.