But she was supposed to let someone like you PROVIDE the Lear inteview because you are on the other side. Me and janice go way back to 2002, and she just Dropped the Bomb on me-lol Still can;t believe it
No hard feelings Solomon. It was nothing personal. I was hoping that Lear would say it wasn't a spinoff. You're still keeping the debate alive anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

No hard feelings Solomon. It was nothing personal. I was hoping that Lear would say it wasn't a spinoff. You're still keeping the debate alive anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

The debate is hardly alive. A debate only occurs when people are in doubt about something. No one is in doubt except Solomon, and I think it has to do more with admitting his rules for what makes a spin-off a spin-off is flawed. He changes the rules whenever someone refutes his logic, all in defense of himself and not only the one article he keeps touting to support his "rule".

Still, he's a good egg. He's just suffering from Eric Monteitis...


Ed

No hard feelings Solomon. It was nothing personal. I was hoping that Lear would say it wasn't a spinoff. You're still keeping the debate alive anyway, so it doesn't really matter.


:lol: There you have it!:lol:

No hard feelings Solomon. It was nothing personal. I was hoping that Lear would say it wasn't a spinoff. You're still keeping the debate alive anyway, so it doesn't really matter.


Before that VIDEO it looked like everyone was coming over to my side but then you posted that and I was like-"JANICE NO!!!!! What are you doing? You were on my side-lol 2 years ago no had nothing to go up against my article and now the article is not convincing to anyone at all

Before that VIDEO it looked like everyone was coming over to my side but then you posted that and I was like-"JANICE NO!!!!! What are you doing? You were on my side-lol 2 years ago no had nothing to go up against my article and now the article is not convincing to anyone at all

What video? Anyone have a link to it?

Ed

You didn't see it? LOL. NORMAN LEAR ADMITS IT! It was wonderful! I will try to find the link unless someone else can.

What video? Anyone have a link to it?

Ed

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...can+Television

There you go!:wave:

I just watched it again. IT CAME FROM HIS MOUTH. Music to my ears....(Tommie sighs) ...boy I really need to get a life.

I just watched it again. IT CAME FROM HIS MOUTH. Music to my ears....(Tommie sighs) ...boy I really need to get a life.


I still don;t why he just can;t say -"It's a Norman Lear Produced Show" It's not a DAMM SPINOFF, he must have been high when he said that-lol

Dang! That's rough, dude. You keep refering to your understanding.

The video link doesn't work for me. It reads:

We're sorry, but this video may not be available. Try refreshing the page to see this video. To see more videos visit our home page

I tried refreshing and was taken to another page where all the most popular videos are available for viewing. So I guess I can't see this. Anyone else have a different link?


Ed

I'll try again:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4966247865822694333&q=Archive+of+American+Television

I'll try again:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4966247865822694333&q=Archive+of+American+Television


Yeah try again-lol

The last link posted works.

The video link doesn't work for me. It reads:

We're sorry, but this video may not be available. Try refreshing the page to see this video. To see more videos visit our home page

I tried refreshing and was taken to another page where all the most popular videos are available for viewing. So I guess I can't see this. Anyone else have a different link?


Ed


I got the same message from that first link that I gave you but the second one does work. I just tried it. It was the webpage that copied and pasted the second time.:wave:

Yeah try again-lol

I just got into Orlando last night. Don't make me come back up to the north with James Evans. He'll check you, bro. LOL.

Before that VIDEO it looked like everyone was coming over to my side but then you posted that and I was like-"JANICE NO!!!!! What are you doing? You were on my side-lol 2 years ago no had nothing to go up against my article and now the article is not convincing to anyone at all


Everyone wasn't going over to your side, I was far away from your side as possible. I stuck to my guns on this topic.

Everyone wasn't going over to your side, I was far away from your side as possible. I stuck to my guns on this topic.


You were undecided but not completely on my side. You wasn;t sure

You were undecided but not completely on my side. You wasn;t sure


I don't know where you got that idea from

I don't know where you got that idea from
:brent

You were undecided but not completely on my side. You wasn;t sure

I don't know where you got that idea from

I don't know where he learned his English from. "You wasn't sure" indeed. I worry for you Solomon. Clearly this spin-off debate has taken its toll on you my friend. :lol:


Ed

Solomon, you are becoming DELUSIONAL! LOL

Solomon, you are becoming DELUSIONAL! LOL
:rofl:

Solomon, you are becoming DELUSIONAL! LOL


That's for sure

I just do not understand the arguement at all

I mean in all honesty, it seems to be painfully obvious to me that its a spinoff

arguing that it is NOT is like arguing the earth is flat or the moon is made of cheese

im sure that eric monte really believes 100% that the BLACK FAMILY pilot script was the same thing as good times--- EVERYONE wants to believe they are more important than they are---- but the script was DEAD and REJECTED and Lear used the basic concept of the script and reinvented it to suit the EVANS Family characters from Maude

THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN HOLLYWOOD
and we all know it

LOL. I am truly entertained by all of you. Brie's comments, Solomon's Lamont's, Brian's and Ms. Irene's reaction to the comments with the different laughing heads that she uses.

It is amazing that Solomon has not admitted defeat yet. When Brian thought that Solomon was right at one time, he put it in big letters that Solomon was right and that Good Times was not a spinoff. Solomon, why can you not be that big like Brian was when he entertained the fact that you might have been right? Ah, the boards. The lovely, freakin boards.

LOL. I am truly entertained by all of you. Brie's comments, Solomon's Lamont's, Brian's and Ms. Irene's reaction to the comments with the different laughing heads that she uses.

It is amazing that Solomon has not admitted defeat yet. When Brian thought that Solomon was right at one time, he put it in big letters that Solomon was right and that Good Times was not a spinoff. Solomon, why can you not be that big like Brian was when he entertained the fact that you might have been right? Ah, the boards. The lovely, freakin boards.
I LOVE HOW YOU CALL ME MS. IRENE...that is so sweet of you!

I know I did the big bold letters stating that GOOD TIMES WASN'T A SPIN-OFF, I had no idea that Brian did also...:eek: :crazy:

I am so entertained by this thread sooooo much, it's like a "time-out" to come and get some laughs. :lol:

Ah, the good times...well, I meant it literally. No pun intended. LOL.

Ah, the good times...well, I meant it literally. No pun intended. LOL.

Don't worry, we won't be having a debate as to whether YOU'RE a spin-off from these boards...

LOL...

Ed (breathing a sigh of relief)

Don't worry, we won't be having a debate as to whether YOU'RE a spin-off from these boards...

LOL...

Ed (breathing a sigh of relief)


Well, I know I am not. According to TV Guide, I'm not really a spinoff. They just forgot to change my name. "S" will sit down with Norman Lear and have a discussion and convince him that I am not a spinoff from the board. Plus I am from New York originally and now am in Orlando. How is my transition explained? Solomon, :lol: I am kidding of course!:wave:

LOL. I am truly entertained by all of you. Brie's comments, Solomon's Lamont's, Brian's and Ms. Irene's reaction to the comments with the different laughing heads that she uses.

It is amazing that Solomon has not admitted defeat yet. When Brian thought that Solomon was right at one time, he put it in big letters that Solomon was right and that Good Times was not a spinoff. Solomon, why can you not be that big like Brian was when he entertained the fact that you might have been right? Ah, the boards. The lovely, freakin boards.


In my defense Tom, I did that because Solomon was very nice enough to record a Patricia Heaton commercial that only aired in the Philly market. I never truly believed that Good Times was not a spinoff. I will admit that earlier in this debate Solomon brought alot of evidence to back his claim. However, more evidence has since come in to support the spinoff claim and Norman Lear's comments sealed the deal. lol

That comment by Lear was sweet.

That comment by Lear was sweet.


It was and I know in Solomon's heart of hearts he believes GT as a spinoff. I am sure though that he is scouring old magazines and the net looking for something to new to help back his claim.

Unfortunately, it was Solomon himself that said when Norman Lear admits it is a spinoff, he would concede. I am still waiting! lol

I love this debate though. If SO ever gets too boring the Good Times debate always comes back to provide some entertainment. . :lol:

as long as solomon has air in his lungs
this thread will go on forever!

In my defense Tom, I did that because Solomon was very nice enough to record a Patricia Heaton commercial that only aired in the Philly market. I never truly believed that Good Times was not a spinoff. I will admit that earlier in this debate Solomon brought alot of evidence to back his claim. However, more evidence has since come in to support the spinoff claim and Norman Lear's comments sealed the deal. lol


Brian you had me nervous there for a minute, I thought you were going over to the dark side.

Oh no. This happened almost two years ago. Its all good.

Good Times was a "Norman Lear Produced Show" can we all just agree on that?

well sure we can agree on that

BUTTTTT thats not the point

that fact has nothing to do with the fact that it IS a spinoff

well sure we can agree on that

BUTTTTT thats not the point

that fact has nothing to do with the fact that it IS a spinoff

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Good Times is in the same category as

Sanford and Son
One day at a Time
Mary hartman


All Norman Lear Produced Shows

YES solomon
YES we all know that

BUTTTTTT what you are saying MAKES NO SENSE and does NOT relate to the discussion----- you are just trying to divert the attention off the fact that you are wrong!!

the topic is WHETHER OR NOT ITS A SPINOFF----

NOT whether or not norman lear produced it

what you are saying makes about as much sense to the topic as saying

"CANT WE ALL JUST AGREE THAT RAIN DROPS ARE WET?"

it makes no sense to say something that all of us know and that is not relating to the debate

I have always wonder if ood Times was a spin-off of Maude since Florida played Maude Maid.

YES solomon
YES we all know that

BUTTTTTT what you are saying MAKES NO SENSE and does NOT relate to the discussion----- you are just trying to divert the attention off the fact that you are wrong!!

the topic is WHETHER OR NOT ITS A SPINOFF----

NOT whether or not norman lear produced it

what you are saying makes about as much sense to the topic as saying

"CANT WE ALL JUST AGREE THAT RAIN DROPS ARE WET?"

it makes no sense to say something that all of us know and that is not relating to the debate


I'm just trying to say the show was connected to Norman Lear but not in the way like the Jeffersons and Maude was to All in the Family. GT was Lear's show and let's just leave at that

Again--- the statements u r making are NOT IN DISPUTE and do NOT relate to the topic----

YES YES YES we all know it was a Lear Show----
but that is not the topic----

what you are saying does NOT RELATE AT ALL----

its like if i said "NORMAN LEAR HAS WHITE HAIR AND IS OLD"--- ok great, we all know that, but it does NOT answer the question in the slightest

Hey Solomon, please don't take the laughing heads that I created in offensive. Lamont's comment struck me funny.

Lamont, I have to hand it to you. You provide some very convincing and bold argument. You have been expressing what most of us have been trying to say.

well i have learned that no matter how LOGICALLY and CLEARLY that you explain why the arguement is 100% WRONG

solomon will just state it again in 3 days time, again with no facts

LOL!

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Good Times is a spinoff maude
the complete dictionary of televsion says so
tv tome says so
Norman lear said so
and The Sitcoms Of norman Lear book Even Said so,
almost anywhere you read it going to say Good time is a spinoff Of Maude

Good Times is a spinoff maude
the complete dictionary of televsion says so
tv tome says so
Norman lear said so
and The Sitcoms Of norman Lear book Even Said so,
almost anywhere you read it going to say Good time is a spinoff Of Maude


Yes Good Times is a Norman Lear Sow,, but is it a Spinoff? Hell NO

Yes Good Times is a Norman Lear Sow,, but is it a Spinoff? Hell NO
You said to me you weren't going to respond to these YES IT IS A SPIN-OFF posts anymore. :crazy:

IT'S ALIVE!!!

You said to me you weren't going to respond to these YES IT IS A SPIN-OFF posts anymore. :crazy:


Yes but I have to break it down for the New People

I used to be one of the new people. Don't bother. :rofl:

I used to be one of the new people. Don't bother. :rofl:


You are on my side did you forget or are you turning on me like Janice?-lol

You are on my side did you forget or are you turning on me like Janice?-lol
Still am. I am saying that I used to be a newbie too and that arguing your point is MOOT. You got lucky getting me to see YOUR SIDE. ;)

This topic again? Egad, you guys are living proof that there's a Hell...



--Ed

Good Times Is A Spinoff Of Maude. everywhere i read it says it is a spinoff o maude.

Good Times Is A Spinoff Of Maude. everywhere i read it says it is a spinoff o maude.


Lear Produced Show, NOT A SPINOFF

You Know what Norman Lear Address Is.
Cause I Will Write Him A Letter and ask

You Know what Norman Lear Address Is.
Cause I Will Write Him A Letter and ask


No I wish I did

why Would All Kinds Of Televsion Books And Every Internet Website Say It Was A Spinoff Of Maude If It Really Wasn't A Spinoff?.
So That Proves it A spinoff. And They alway Tend To cuont It as a grandchild Spinoff Of All In The Family.

why Would All Kinds Of Televsion Books And Every Internet Website Say It Was A Spinoff Of Maude If It Really Wasn't A Spinoff?.
So That Proves it A spinoff. And They alway Tend To cuont It as a grandchild Spinoff Of All In The Family.


Because I have several newspapers and magazine articles that says it's not. So there

Because I have several newspapers and magazine articles that says it's not. So there

wezzyfan, don't listen to him. He has ONE article and it was by a jilted producer. Norman Lear HIMSELF, said it was a spinoff.

This should have been an episode of that TV Land Myths and Legends

wezzyfan, don't listen to him. He has ONE article and it was by a jilted producer. Norman Lear HIMSELF, said it was a spinoff.


I got more stuff in

This should have been an episode of that TV Land Myths and Legends



I agree Matt, this topic would have been perfect

If it didn't come from Lear, it doesn't matter.

Because I have several newspapers and magazine articles that says it's not. So there
That's good enough for me. There's no way it's a spinoff.

Norman Lear really didn't seem to do much on the show. He "developed it", but he didn't create it.

Norman Lear really didn't seem to do much on the show. He "developed it", but he didn't create it.


Another good point Matt

okay. you have your opinion and i have my opinion. and i say it is a spinoff Of Maude.

Plus there is video footage with Norman Lear that explains how it came to be a spinoff. LOL. You know that this topic will never die. There is always a newbie that will come across it and give a good opinion. Welcome Weezyfan! Solomon should get a reality show. He, much like "New York" as made a splash. BTW Solomon, Is "I Love New York" A spinoff from Flava Flave's show? LOL. I mean the names are the same and the premises are the same. Are the states different? Is one Chicago? Is the other NYC or L.A.? Will New York pick a man with a sixth grade education or a fireman? LOL.

Norman Lear really didn't seem to do much on the show. He "developed it", but he didn't create it.
Exactly. To me, the creator is the one who says whether it is or isn't a spin-off. The creator says IT IS NOT. Doesn't matter whether he was jilted or not. Doesn't make the man a liar. The proof is there that he created it. Man, how many ideas has a creator had and someone comes along and says "Let me help you with this..." and then BOOM, steals it and says THIS IS MY IDEA.?

Good Times=a Norman Lear Show like

Mary Hartman
One Day at a Time

Hold it, now! Good Points but it was still threaded in by some ingredients from "Maude" still making it a spinoff.

Oh, and Ann Romano was James' mistress on "Good Times". So "One Day At A Time" is a Spinoff of "Good Times". I have the episode.

Good Times Is A Spinoff Of Maude. internet website and televsion books wouldn't call it a spinoff if it wasn't a spinoff. even the sitcoms of norman lear book said it was a spinoff .

Good Times Is A Spinoff Of Maude. internet website and televsion books wouldn't call it a spinoff if it wasn't a spinoff. even the sitcoms of norman lear book said it was a spinoff .



Websites are not reliable sources

How About The Sitcoms Of Norman Lear Book? There is No lies in there.

Whenever SO gets slow this debate always brings the site back to life. :lol:

Websites are not reliable sources

THIS website isn't a reliable source for DVD info and for TV schedule changes?????



Weezyfan there's no point in debating with TVResearcher, he just says the same things over and over again. :lol:

Jim Backus and Natalie Schafer were on episodes of The Brady Bunch, another Sherwood Schwartz show, that doesn't make it a spinoff of GI.

I voted Yes on the poll but I wish I could change it. That E True Hollywood Story changed it for me.

Jim Backus and Natalie Schafer were on episodes of The Brady Bunch, another Sherwood Schwartz show, that doesn't make it a spinoff of GI.

I voted Yes on the poll but I wish I could change it. That E True Hollywood Story changed it for me.


Yet they didn't play the same characters that they played on GI. He didn't play Thurston Howell on Brady Bunch and Natalie didnt play Lovey. So that's not a good example.

How About The Sitcoms Of Norman Lear Book? There is No lies in there.


I contributed to that book and no it's not a spinoff. It wasn't supposed to be listed as a spinoff in the book just a Norman Lear Sitcom.

Jim Backus and Natalie Schafer were on episodes of The Brady Bunch, another Sherwood Schwartz show, that doesn't make it a spinoff of GI.

I voted Yes on the poll but I wish I could change it. That E True Hollywood Story changed it for me.


Very bad example

I contributed to that book and no it's not a spinoff. It wasn't supposed to be listed as a spinoff in the book just a Norman Lear Sitcom.


Then why was it???

Norman Lear really didn't seem to do much on the show. He "developed it", but he didn't create it.


Didn't do much?!? He only brought the show to life. LOL

Then why was it???


He made a mistake

Exactly. To me, the creator is the one who says whether it is or isn't a spin-off. The creator says IT IS NOT. Doesn't matter whether he was jilted or not. Doesn't make the man a liar. The proof is there that he created it. Man, how many ideas has a creator had and someone comes along and says "Let me help you with this..." and then BOOM, steals it and says THIS IS MY IDEA.?


Actually Irene, it does matter. No Norman Lear, No Good Times. He says it is a spinoff, so therefore it is.

He made a mistake


Bad answer, you wanna try again?

Bad answer, you wanna try again?


I will have to email him and ask him

I will have to email him and ask him


You do that! LOL

iam still searching for norman lear emailing adress or street adress cause i rather in pen hand writing

You do that! LOL


Yes I will have to because he wasn't supposed to do that

Yes I will have to because he wasn't supposed to do that


Ahhhh, but he did.

I contributed to that book and no it's not a spinoff. It wasn't supposed to be listed as a spinoff in the book just a Norman Lear Sitcom.

:brent You contributed to what book???? Did you get credit or a mention?

:brent You contributed to what book???? Did you get credit or a mention?


Yes my name is in the book

Yes my name is in the book


What's the name of said book?

What's the name of said book?


The name of the book is"The Sitcoms of Norman Lear"

The name of the book is"The Sitcoms of Norman Lear"


Did Norman Lear write it? If not, then I won't waste my time reading it.

Did Norman Lear write it? If not, then I won't waste my time reading it.


No Lear didn't write it-lol It was a book about his shows

The author, Sean Campbell, has posted here about his book, which is listed on Amazon. I had a few e:mail exchanges with him when he was writing his book. I came across him in my search for the spinoff debate.

Sean was very clear to me at the time that he did NOT consider Good Times to be a spinoff of Maude. I wonder why he changed his position.

Solomon, what did you contribute to the book?

http://www.amazon.com/Sitcoms-Norman-Lear-Sean-Campbell/dp/0786427639/sr=8-1/qid=1169967599/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5053238-2200021?ie=UTF8&s=books

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=186525&highlight=Sitcoms+Norman+Lear

We can say "spinoff" or we can say "not a spinoff". Heck, we could say "Macaroni and Cheese" or "Cheese and Macaroni" but it is a spinoff. When there is footage of Norman Lear to back up the claim we know that the "ayes" have it. LOL.

The author, Sean Campbell, has posted here about his book, which is listed on Amazon. I had a few e:mail exchanges with him when he was writing his book. I came across him in my search for the spinoff debate.

Sean was very clear to me at the time that he did NOT consider Good Times to be a spinoff of Maude. I wonder why he changed his position.

Solomon, what did you contribute to the book?

http://www.amazon.com/Sitcoms-Norman-Lear-Sean-Campbell/dp/0786427639/sr=8-1/qid=1169967599/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5053238-2200021?ie=UTF8&s=books

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=186525&highlight=Sitcoms+Norman+Lear



Photos

Photos
Photos of what? Come on, I want to hear about it. It's cool, you're in a book. :cool:

Photos of what? Come on, I want to hear about it. It's cool, you're in a book. :cool:


CBS Promo Photos of the Jeffersons from the 1970's

CBS Promo Photos of the Jeffersons from the 1970's


So you didn't contribute info?

I Thought It Was A Spinoff. Because It Has A Part Where It says florida Says Goodbye..

So you didn't contribute info?


No just Jeffersons Photos-lol

I Thought It Was A Spinoff. Because It Has A Part Where It says florida Says Goodbye..


True but it wasn't a SET UP episode for Good Times, the Florida character was just being WRITTEN OFF the show Maude. So it was a WRITE OFF not SPINOFF. They had to do the Write off because the New Comedy Good Times-"Was a Different Situation" so that's why they did a episode of Maude-"Florida says Goodbye".

Solomon, that is not what Norman Lear said in his interview. He said the opposite.

True but it wasn't a SET UP episode for Good Times, the Florida character was just being WRITTEN OFF the show Maude. So it was a WRITE OFF not SPINOFF. They had to do the Write off because the New Comedy Good Times-"Was a Different Situation" so that's why they did a episode of Maude-"Florida says Goodbye".


Incorrect!

No just Jeffersons Photos-lol


Then how can you say in all honesty, that he was going to use your info about Good Times???

Then how can you say in all honesty, that he was going to use your info about Good Times???


I was joking-lol

Incorrect!


I understand Brian. LOL. We both know.

I Still Say Good Times Is A Spinoff of Maude. Because That What i read alot in books and websites.

I know it is a norman lears show but the point is that it is a spinoff

I know it is a norman lears show but the point is that it is a spinoff


Exactly!

I Still Think Good Times Is A Spinoff Of maude

I Just Got A Hold a Norman Lear Emailing Adress!
and iam thinking about writing to him and asking if good times is a spinoff of maude?

I Still Think Good Times Is A Spinoff Of maude


That's because it is. LOL

Right on

I Just Got A Hold a Norman Lear Emailing Adress!
and iam thinking about writing to him and asking if good times is a spinoff of maude?


If you have had his email then post it on here otherwise I'm not going to believe you have anything

If you have had his email then post it on here otherwise I'm not going to believe you have anything

Oh boy, dem are fightin' woids...



Ed

I was able to get Norman Lear's cell phone number yesterda so maybe I should just call him tonight to end all this-lol

I was able to get Norman Lear's cell phone number yesterda so maybe I should just call him tonight to end all this-lol


Make sure you record your conversation, because I sure as heck don't trust you. :lol: ;)

Okay His Mailing Adress Is:
1999 ave. of the stars #500, La 90067.
i got it on the website page,write to a celeb and it is the first thing on the page look for youself.

Okay His Mailing Adress Is:
1999 ave. of the stars #500, La 90067.
i got it on the website page,write to a celeb and it is the first thing on the page look for youself.
That is a general mailing address to get autographs, send letters, etc. It is not Norman's direct mailing address.

I Aso Found Isabel Sanford Old Mailing Adress .

But Isabel is dead.

I Know She Died But What I Ment Was I found her adress before she died.

WeezyFan is turning into the CLOWN of the TV Boards

WeezyFan is turning into the CLOWN of the TV Boards


Stop it Sol!

Stop it Sol!


Didn't he say he had an email address first? Then all of a sudden he says he has a mailing address. My TV discussions with WeezyFan have ENDED after Tonight. I just refused to chat with this person any longer. So that is my last comment about the situation

Didn't he say he had an email address first? Then all of a sudden he says he has a mailing address. My TV discussions with WeezyFan have ENDED after Tonight. I just refused to chat with this person any longer. So that is my last comment about the situation


At least Weezyfan posts! LOL

At least Weezyfan posts! LOL

Exactly, there's no need to get mean and disrespectful.

At least Weezyfan posts! LOL


Post What????

i never said i had a emailing address i askes if anybody knew norman lear emiling adress.
but i did find where you can send a letter to him but not direct.

Post What????


I dunno :lol:

But Isabel is dead.

lol: :lol: This struck me as funny for some reason. Anyways, let's not argur. It's all good on the boards.

i never said i had a emailing address i askes if anybody knew norman lear emiling adress.
but i did find where you can send a letter to him but not direct.

Uh dude, you most certainly did say "emailing" address. Here is your post:

I Just Got A Hold a Norman Lear Emailing Adress!
and iam thinking about writing to him and asking if good times is a spinoff of maude?

Now, I'm not trying to nitpick, but Solomon is right in that you did say email address. Not trying to stir something up or anything, since I agree with you that Good Times is a spinoff of Maude, but Solomon does have a right to call you on something that you stated yourself. You did state EMAIL address.

And as far as anyone else thinking that Solomon is being unnecessarily mean or rude, there were times people were just as blunt to him. I know, because I've been one of them. Sometimes he had to be told not to waste people's time or to stick to his own points. Shouldn't Solomon be granted the same right when he feels someone else is merely wasting his time? He has a right to speak his mind, and I didn't think his post was rude, it was just to the point.

Again, I don't agree with Solomon on whether the show was a spinoff or not, but I do think he had every right to state that weezyfan was "spinning his wheels". And I have to confess that it seems weezyfan would just resurrect the old fight simply so he'd have something to do. Long after the discussion had ended, days would pass and then he'd post again that the show was not a spinoff. What's to be gained by constantly going in circles?

You can say what you want about Solomon, but rude or mean isn't one of them. If anything, anyone who's out to deliberately waste people's time is the one person who's really being mean or rude.


Ed

I Ment Mailimg Adress instead of emailing.

Uh dude, you most certainly did say "emailing" address. Here is your post:



Now, I'm not trying to nitpick, but Solomon is write in that you did say email address. Not trying to stir something up or anything, since I agree with you that Good Times is a spinoff of Maude, but Solomon does have a right to call you on something that you stated yourself. You did state EMAIL address.

And as far as anyone else thinking that Solomon is being unnecessarily mean or rude, there were times people were just as blunt to him. I know, because I've been one of them. Sometimes he had to be told not to waste people's time or to stick to his own points. Shouldn't Solomon be granted the same right when he feels someone else is merely wasting his time? He has a right to speak his mind, and I didn't think his post was rude, it was just to the point.

Again, I don't agree with Solomon on whether the show was a spinoff or not, but I do think he had every right to state that weezyfan was "spinning his wheels". And I have to confess that it seems weezyfan would just resurrect the old fight simply so he'd have something to do. Long after the discussion had ended, days would pass and then he'd post again that the show was not a spinoff. What's to be gained by constantly going in circles?

You can say what you want about Solomon, but rude or mean isn't one of them. If anything, anyone who's out to deliberately waste people's time is the one person who's really being mean or rude.


Ed


Exactlty that's I said that he should post the email address and then all of a sudden he changed it to I have his mailing address. Next he is going to say in about a month from now, "Lear mailed me back and said it was a spinoff but I lost the Letter but he did say it though"

lol

Exactlty that's I said that he should post the email address and then all of a sudden he changed it to I have his mailing address. Next he is going to say in about a month from now, "Lear mailed me back and said it was a spinoff but I lost the Letter but he did say it though"

lol


Wonderful Folk here we have on the board.

Yes Good Times is a Spinoff of Maude!

GOOD TIMES IS A SPINOFF, I KNOW SO LET END IT HERE.

GOOD TIMES IS A SPINOFF, I KNOW SO LET END IT HERE.


You can't even spell Chicago so Good away-lol

GOOD TIMES IS A SPINOFF, I KNOW SO LET END IT HERE.

I agree but why should the conversation end here based on your say so?

You can't even spell Chicago so Good away-lol
HEY I KNOW how to spell it okay.
are family spell it differently.

I agree but why should the conversation end here based on your say so?
Because i Say So.

Welcome to Sitcoms On Line "The Real TV Researcher" Have a good time!

Because i Say So.

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Welcome to Sitcoms On Line "The Real TV Researcher" Have a good time!
It looks like his time was very short. lol

I move fast. C'mon. "TheRealTVResearcher", coming to THIS thread right off the bat....Incidentally, I'd just like to remind folks that multiple accounts are prohibited, particularly if one is meant to stir up trouble.

I move fast. C'mon. "TheRealTVResearcher", coming to THIS thread right off the bat....

That was odd now that you mention it.

It looks like his time was very short. lol


:rotflmao: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I move fast. C'mon. "TheRealTVResearcher", coming to THIS thread right off the bat....Incidentally, I'd just like to remind folks that multiple accounts are prohibited, particularly if one is meant to stir up trouble.


Do I need to take back my "welcome" Devaseth? I wonder who could possibly have a multiple account on this board? Its not me. LOL.

Do I need to take back my "welcome" Devaseth? I wonder who could possibly have a multiple account on this board? Its not me. LOL.

I can't be sure it's a multiple, but it very well could have been. We'll see.

Devaseth? Wow, amazing that folks still remember the old name even when I don't bring it up as often anymore. :lol:

I move fast. C'mon. "TheRealTVResearcher", coming to THIS thread right off the bat....Incidentally, I'd just like to remind folks that multiple accounts are prohibited, particularly if one is meant to stir up trouble.
Well, we know who is doing that, don't we.

Seth,

Well you and I would talk when I was working nightshift. It has been more than six years. You were one of the newbies and a H.S. freshman that set your sights on some girl in school. I remember you well Devastation26. I still gotta work with the transition of referring to you as "Seth". LOL. I will someday.

Folks, please let this topic just die. LOL.

The REAL Solomon knows the truth. LOL

Oh nooooooooo!!! :eek2: Not THIS again!!!???????

Well, we know who is doing that, don't we.


If it is who we think it is, we have a classic case of "Chinatown" or "Psycho". With "Chinatown", it is the mother/daughter syndrome and with "Psycho" it is a case of mother/Norman.:lol:

If it is who we think it is, we have a classic case of "Chinatown" or "Psycho". With "Chinatown", it is the mother/daughter syndrome and with "Psycho" it is a case of mother/Norman.:lol:

Just so I'm in the know, who is it that we think it is? Solomon himself? Doubtful. The writing styles are a little different and Solomon is a much better speller. When Solomon makes a booboo, you can tell it's a typo and not because he thinks a word is spelled the wrong way. The other guy, however, doesn't seem to know basic rules of grammar or spelling.

So who do we think it is?

Ed

It's not Solomon, I'll say that much.

Folks, I'm going to have to ask that discussion as to the idientity of our now-removed poster cease. Thank you.

Oh, and one more thing: Yes, it IS a spinoff.

It's not Solomon, I'll say that much.

Folks, I'm going to have to ask that discussion as to the idientity of our now-removed poster cease. Thank you.

Oh, and one more thing: Yes, it IS a spinoff.


In all honesty, I couldn't care less. As for the very last comment from your post, tee hee hee:lol:

It's not Solomon, I'll say that much.

Folks, I'm going to have to ask that discussion as to the idientity of our now-removed poster cease. Thank you.

Oh, and one more thing: Yes, it IS a spinoff.


What was funny is he called himself the TheRealTVResearcher and had NO SOURCES-lol-lol

Someone pls lock this thread, for the sanity of all involved! :crazy:

I think that it is time. It has run its course. LOL.

This thread goes into a periodic coma, then, just when you feel it's safe, it wakes up again. Pull the plug.

I think that generally you get people that are newcomers to the thread occasionally that are not aware of the mundane history attached to this thread. Most of us know well enough to leave it alone.

I think that generally you get people that are newcomers to the thread occasionally that are not aware of the mundane history attached to this thread. Most of us know well enough to leave it alone.


The most memorable thread in SitcomsOnline History-lol

Thomas, LOCK this thread....put it out of MY misery! *Begging* :2help

The most memorable thread in SitcomsOnline History-lol
I think this is one of Janice's most active threads. GOOD JOB JANICE!:lol:

No. I think that it is the participants that make the thread. LOL. It takes a village to make a thread. LOL.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6svD3FK9aQA&feature=player_detailpage#t=114s

Bea and Ester said in in a 1998 Interview when they reunited on RU PAUL SHOW that Good Times was a Spin-off of Maude! There you Go! even Bea and Ester said it was a Spin-off!. that's even more proof that Good Times was a spin-off. That's all the more proof I need.

But of Course Solomon will just be his arrogant self and say they(Two very Talented Legend actresses) are lying just because he thinks he knows everything when he doesn't. He thinks e Mr Know it All.

Sorry but I don't believe anything solomon says.

It even says one of the DVD cases that Good Times is a rare spin-off of a spin-off. A sspin-off of Maude, which in turn, was a spin-off of All in the Family.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6svD3FK9aQA&feature=player_detailpage#t=114s

Bea and Ester said in in a 1998 Interview when they reunited on RU PAUL SHOW that Good Times was a Spin-off of Maude! There you Go! even Bea and Ester said it was a Spin-off!. that's even more proof that Good Times was a spin-off. That's all the more proof I need.

But of Course Solomon will just be his arrogant self and say they(Two very Talented Legend actresses) are lying just because he thinks he knows everything when he doesn't. He thinks e Mr Know it All.

Sorry but I don't believe anything solomon says.


This debate is over and I don't give a SH*T anymore. Try created a 2011 thread of your own and stop digging up my old threads loser.

You are the loser!

You are the loser!


You don't know SH*T about classic TV, get the hell outta here

Norman Lear says it is, and that's good enough for me.

I'm not sure how this was even questioned...

Florida Evans was a character on "Maude" first, then left that series and "Good Times" began. I haven't thought about this in decades but this was really clear back in the early 1970s when both shows were current.

This debate is over and I don't give a SH*T anymore. Try created a 2011 thread of your own and stop digging up my old threads loser.

Okay, fair enough, but being new around here I had to weigh in on such an important issue as this, as Florida Evans is obviously the same character as the maid on Maude and "mom" on Good Times.

I'd call that clearly a "spin off".

And so it goes...

Okay, fair enough, but being new around here I had to weigh in on such an important issue as this, as Florida Evans is obviously the same character as the maid on Maude and "mom" on Good Times.

I'd call that clearly a "spin off".

And so it goes...


Good to see you posting again. Post more often.


I really enjoyed Maude the series when Esther Rolle was there. I could always see Florida returning for a visit and mentioning that her husband passed on and living in Arizona with her new husband Carl.

Okay, fair enough, but being new around here I had to weigh in on such an important issue as this, as Florida Evans is obviously the same character as the maid on Maude and "mom" on Good Times.

I'd call that clearly a "spin off".

And so it goes...



It's not a spinoff because can explain how Florida ended up in a Chicago Ghetto when she was living in NYC on Maude.


So there is no debate

It's not a spinoff because can explain how Florida ended up in a Chicago Ghetto when she was living in NYC on Maude.


So there is no debate

That's a rule you made up. LOL.


Sorry Solomon. It's too late!!!! LOL.

It is a spinoff and we even wore you down with the debate to the point that you kinda of indirectly gave in. Its a spinoff. :lol:

Too late!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :wave:

Happy New Year!!!

Sorry Solomon. It's too late!!!! LOL.

It is a spinoff and we even wore you down with the debate to the point that you kinda of indirectly gave in. Its a spinoff. :lol:

Too late!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :wave:

Happy New Year!!!



I'm working on some material for the 40th Anniversary and will reveal the last and final piece of evidence that good times is not a spinoff on 2/1/14

lol

I'm working on some material for the 40th Anniversary and will reveal the last and final piece of evidence that good times is not a spinoff on 2/1/14

lol

Work on it if you must and I will read without prejudice but it will still be a spinoff. LOL.

Work on it if you must and I will read without prejudice but it will still be a spinoff. LOL.


Evidence to support that the show aired in some cities on 2/1/74 which was before her last appearance on Maude that aired on 2/5/74

Airdates don't matter. It's still a spinoff. You ready to go another friendly round? LOL.

Airdates don't matter. It's still a spinoff. You ready to go another friendly round? LOL.


Airdates don't matter? LMAO


Are u telling me Good times could have aired before Esther Rolle Left maude and still be considered a spinoff??? LOL

Uh, Yes, YES and uh, did I mention YES? LOL.

You're basing your argument on your strong assumptions. There is nothing wrong with that, brother. You do have a right. However, there is no rule that states that an individual has to complete a tenure on one project to go to another. Good Times airing before Florida's tenure/closure on "Maude" is irrelevant to the argument. Esther Rolle wanted to continue as Florida Evans on the new show. It does not matter the airdate. The new project flat out had Florida Evans. Sol, you're a good debater. I mean that. LOL. Only the strong can survive this type of debate.

Airdates don't matter? LMAO


Are u telling me Good times could have aired before Esther Rolle Left maude and still be considered a spinoff??? LOL


I Agree with Thomas, air dates does not matter. Esther's last appearance on Maude was filmed on Nov. 16, 1973, and the first episode of Good Times was filmed on January 21, 1974.

Why do we have to wait a whole month before you release this mind blowing information? LOL

I Agree with Thomas, air dates does not matter. Esther's last appearance on Maude was filmed on Nov. 16, 1973, and the first episode of Good Times was filmed on January 21, 1974.

Why do we have to wait a whole month before you release this mind blowing information? LOL


He wants to play it up like on the TV shows when there is a big, shocking revelation. Can we say "cliffhanger"? :lol:

If you wanna make it scarier, I found out that the last taping for Ms. Rolle on Maude was December 07, 1973. LOL. The episode was "Maude's Houseguest" which was filmed three weeks after the Nov. 16, 1973 ep "Florida's Goodbye". "Maude's Houseguest" did air four episodes before "Florida's Goodbye". So you see, it doesn't matter about airdates at all. That's not a strong foundation.

And then I checked to find out that "Getting up the rent" was taped January 07,1974. Ms. Rolle had a busy, full season of work.

All i can say is that is comes off more as a "NORMAN LEAR PRODUCED SITCOM" like One Day at a Time instead of a show that's linked to another show making it a spinoff

The same way Blansky Beauties was a Gary Marshall Produced Comedy but not a spinoff of Happy Days


Good Times and Blansky Beauties have a lot in common since both

1. had a small link to another show under the same producer
2. both characters had the same name on the new show
3. the setup situation for both shows was not connected at all to the shows the characters appeared on



Good Times.........."Chicago setting without any explanation as to why"

Blansky Beauties......"Las Vegas setting without any explanation as to why"



Happy New Years and nice try LOL

Nice try not needed. Its just done and established. Solomon you beat a dead horse another six feet. It does not need a geographical explanation. You have yet to prove that a spinoff needs a geographic consistency. You're going by your own opinion. Like I said, nice try not needed, it just plain and simple "is". Even Norman Lear said so...but we will wait six weeks to read your information anyway... LOL.

Somebody kill this thread once and for all, please.

LOLOLOL.....It's baaaack.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/zoneboy/Homer.gif

I talked to several people who was around when the show first aired and thye said they never considered it a spinoff and don't see how it is connected to Maude

I talked to several people who was around when the show first aired and thye said they never considered it a spinoff and don't see how it is connected to Maude


LOL Yeah right, Who are these people? Did they work on the show back in the day?

LOL Yeah right, Who are these people? Did they work on the show back in the day?


People who were in their 20's when the show premiered on CBS

LOL Yeah right, Who are these people? Did they work on the show back in the day?

At Solomon: Dude you're...
:horse: :horse: :horse:



At Brie:

:brent :brent

That was funny!!

People who were in their 20's when the show premiered on CBS

Ya'll have got a brother giddy with laughter now.

I don't I'll ever be convinced though. You found other people to agree with but why won't you agree with the developer of the show, Norman Lear?

Sol and Brie: Happy New Years to you both. I forgot to almost say it! ;)

Ya'll have got a brother giddy with laughter now.

I don't I'll ever be convinced though. You found other people to agree with but why won't you agree with the developer of the show, Norman Lear?

Sol and Brie: Happy New Years to you both. I forgot to almost say it! ;)



Happy New Year to you too.

People who were in their 20's when the show premiered on CBS

Are these the same people who you're getting your information from that you're going to release next month?

Are these the same people who you're getting your information from that you're going to release next month?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm enjoying myself with this topic. Pure entertainment.

Ya'll have got a brother giddy with laughter now.

I don't I'll ever be convinced though. You found other people to agree with but why won't you agree with the developer of the show, Norman Lear?

Sol and Brie: Happy New Years to you both. I forgot to almost say it! ;)

Happy New Year to you, have to great 2014. :)

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm enjoying myself with this topic. Pure entertainment.
so am I!

Evidence to support that the show aired in some cities on 2/1/74 which was before her last appearance on Maude that aired on 2/5/74

You said it right there... Florida's last appearance on Maude.

Before the character of Florida got her own show, Good Times... she left one show for her own series, the very meaning of to "spin off".

I figured out why some people don't think Good Times is a spinoff...they never watched Maude.

I figured out why some people don't think Good Times is a spinoff...they never watched Maude.

Whoomp!!! There it is!!! :lol:

You said it right there... Florida's last appearance on Maude.

Before the character of Florida got her own show, Good Times... she left one show for her own series, the very meaning of to "spin off".


No she was WRITTEN OFF Maude so she could star in a new comedy. Remember there was no link to that other show she starred on.


So it was it WRITE OFF not a SPINOFF

I figured out why some people don't think Good Times is a spinoff...they never watched Maude.


Finally, someone else making sense out this thing besides me


Thanks Dr.Thong

No she was WRITTEN OFF Maude so she could star in a new comedy. Remember there was no link to that other show she starred on.


So it was it WRITE OFF not a SPINOFF

Solomon, she was written off of Maude to do another show. It is as clear as day. Harriette Winslow was WRITTEN OFF Perfect Strangers to do another show as well and the show is considered a spinoff of Perfect Strangers.

Regarding folks that haven't seen an episode of Maude but watch Good Times first, of course they will think that it is not a spinoff. I agree. I was one of the people that didn't know until I was 14 years old and saw an episode on TBS when Florida came to work for the Findlays.

I would say let it go but you probably won't. So, I'll play along with you. ;)

It is a spinoff, though. ;)

Solomon, she was written off of Maude to do another show. It is as clear as day. Harriette Winslow was WRITTEN OFF Perfect Strangers to do another show as well and the show is considered a spinoff of Perfect Strangers.

Regarding folks that haven't seen an episode of Maude but watch Good Times first, of course they will think that it is not a spinoff. I agree. I was one of the people that didn't know until I was 14 years old and saw an episode on TBS when Florida came to work for the Findlays.

I would say let it go but you probably won't. So, I'll play along with you. ;)

It is a spinoff, though. ;)


Harriette was transitioned off Perfect strangers

Harriette was transitioned off Perfect strangers

My brother, she too was written off Perfect Strangers. Do you have any new facts to back up your argument? Some of the things you have stated are things you have mentioned in times past.

My brother, she too was written off Perfect Strangers. Do you have any new facts to back up your argument? Some of the things you have stated are things you have mentioned in times past.


i thought when a character leaves a show they are written out?


Maybe that's what i meant to say. written out of the show in a way that she could

never appear on their again. make sense?

They are written out as well. I understand where you are coming from.

Harriette was transitioned off Perfect strangers

Transitioned off of Perfect Strangers? She wasn't doing both shows at the same time. She left Perfect Stanger's and was spun-off to Family Matters. How was she "transition" off? :lol: We never saw any of the Family Matters cast on Perfect Strangers other than Carl and he was only in one episode. It is plain and simple, JoMarie character was spun-off onto her own show. There was no transition.

Transitioned off of Perfect Strangers? She wasn't doing both shows at the same time. She left Perfect Stanger's and was spun-off to Family Matters. How was she "transition" off? :lol: We never saw any of the Family Matters cast on Perfect Strangers other than Carl and he was only in one episode. It is plain and simple, JoMarie character was spun-off onto her own show. There was no transition.


Really Brie? No other cast members? What about the very special Perfect Strangers episode when Harriette's sister Rachel went into labor in the elevator at the chronicle? Balki helped deliver the baby and Rachel then named the baby Richard after the repairman that help get the elevator moving again?

Didn't happen? Don't buy it? Good! Neither did I. LOL. :lol:

I gotta be humorous because we may in for the long haul with Solomon about this issue. Despite Video of Norman Lear, Bea Arthur, Esther Rolle all saying that the show was a spinoff of the predecessor.

Really Brie? No other cast members? What about the very special Perfect Strangers episode when Harriette's sister Rachel went into labor in the elevator at the chronicle? Balki helped deliver the baby and Rachel then named the baby Richard after the repairman that help get the elevator moving again?

Didn't happen? Don't buy it? Good! Neither did I. LOL. :lol:

I gotta be humorous because we may in for the long haul with Solomon about this issue. Despite Video of Norman Lear, Bea Arthur, Esther Rolle all saying that the show was a spinoff of the predecessor.

LOL I'm up for whatever Sol try to throw at me :lol: I don't go back to work until Monday, I need something to entertain me until then :lol:

LOL I'm up for whatever Sol try to throw at me :lol: I don't go back to work until Monday, I need something to entertain me until then :lol:


You, me and Treky have some entertainment going now. I'm laughing now. This non spinoff claim was introduced almost 12 years ago on the boards!!! Wow!

Really Brie? No other cast members? What about the very special Perfect Strangers episode when Harriette's sister Rachel went into labor in the elevator at the chronicle? Balki helped deliver the baby and Rachel then named the baby Richard after the repairman that help get the elevator moving again?

Didn't happen? Don't buy it? Good! Neither did I. LOL. :lol:

I gotta be humorous because we may in for the long haul with Solomon about this issue. Despite Video of Norman Lear, Bea Arthur, Esther Rolle all saying that the show was a spinoff of the predecessor.


I thought Carl appeared on PS with Harriet which is why the spinoff always made sense?

The reason behind the "Good Times is a Spinoff of Maude" debate is:

When Norman Lear, Mike Evans and Eric Monte were first developing this show, it was not a spin off of Maude (1972) (itself a spin-off of All in the Family (1971)). Later, they decided to cast Esther Rolle and John Amos as the leads and promote the show as a spin-off featuring Florida Evans and her family. The originally chosen family name was changed to Evans and the wife/mother's first name to Florida, but those of the other characters were left unchanged. It was nothing but coincidence that the younger son's name thus became the same as that of co-creator Mike Evans. Two huge contradictions with "Maude" - that John Amos's character there was a Tuchahoe, N.Y. fire fighter named Henry who insisted that his wife cease demeaning herself and quit her job as a servant to a white family when he received a hefty raise as part of a promotion and they no longer needed that additional income, while here he was a man named James who was unemployed and had been for a significant amount of time; and that the characters here live in the projects of Chicago, Illinois rather than the aforementioned New York suburb and repeatedly indicate that they have done so for many years - reveal that this series does not genuinely qualify as a spin-off of "Maude".

(Trivia from IMDb.com)

Really Brie? No other cast members? What about the very special Perfect Strangers episode when Harriette's sister Rachel went into labor in the elevator at the chronicle? Balki helped deliver the baby and Rachel then named the baby Richard after the repairman that help get the elevator moving again?

Didn't happen? Don't buy it? Good! Neither did I. LOL. :lol:

I gotta be humorous because we may in for the long haul with Solomon about this issue. Despite Video of Norman Lear, Bea Arthur, Esther Rolle all saying that the show was a spinoff of the predecessor.

Oh, so you're gonna take the word of people who actually worked on the shows now??

;)

I thought Carl appeared on PS with Harriet which is why the spinoff always made sense?
They brought Carl on PS to introduce him to everybody. This was after it was announced that Harriet would be leaving for her spinoff show. I remember reading it in the newspapers at the time. So even though that episode wasn't a spinoff episode, it did introduce the world to Harriet's husband. If the spinoff wasn't happening then Carl wouldn't have appeared.

They brought Carl on PS to introduce him to everybody. This was after it was announced that Harriet would be leaving for her spinoff show. I remember reading it in the newspapers at the time. So even though that episode wasn't a spinoff episode, it did introduce the world to Harriet's husband. If the spinoff wasn't happening then Carl wouldn't have appeared.


Ok thanks, It was her final appearance, I thought he was on there before her last appearance

The reason behind the "Good Times is a Spinoff of Maude" debate is:



(Trivia from IMDb.com)


Thank you, Debate over

Ok thanks, It was her final appearance, I thought he was on there before her last appearance
It wasn't her final appearance but he appeared after they announced that she was leaving.

Ok thanks, It was her final appearance, I thought he was on there before her last appearance

That wasn't her last appearance, her last appearance was months after the episode that Carl was in.

Thank you, Debate over

So now you're excepting info from IMDB? Just wondering.

So now you're excepting info from IMDB? Just wondering.


Yeah why I wouldn't I? It's not wikipedia

Yeah why I wouldn't I? It's not wikipedia


It's about the same just not as bad, anyone can contribute information.

It's about the same just not as bad, anyone can contribute information.


I'm still waiting for you to tell me how Florida Evans ended up in Chicago:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how Florida Evans ended up in Chicago:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I did, about 2 years ago. What else do you want to know?

I did, about 2 years ago. What else do you want to know?


Oh you did? I don't remember lol

Oh you did? I don't remember lol

Yeah you don't remember a lot of things. You can always look it up.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how Florida Evans ended up in Chicago:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well this is pretty cool, these threads are being archived:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-90485.html

"...I posted on another thread, while "Good Times" is indeed a spin-off, it inhabits a different reality from "Maude", i.e. those subtle differences I catalogued earlier. So it would be quite logical for Thelma to make refernces to George Jefferson, as he would probably exist as a fictional character in this universe, because there is no correlation betweent the characters on "Good Times" and the characters of "The Jeffersons", as they've never crossed paths. (By the same token, George and Weezie could have an argument about wanting to watch Florida and J.J. on GT on Tuesday nights, because it's a seperate reality. But on "Maude", one would assume that Maude Findlay would contact the REAL Florida Evans in Harlem and tell her that someone stole her name and put it on tv! Wouldn't THAT be a hoot?)" -W.J. Griffin

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how Florida Evans ended up in Chicago:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm getting the point, Florida Evans seems to be more of a reboot than a spinoff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Evans

Florida was born in Tuskegee, Alabama on August 4, 1935. Originally, her character had worked for Maude and Walter Findlay, who lived in Tuckahoe, New York, while appearing on Maude. Maude was somewhat her foil, but they would eventually form a warm and happy friendship. Florida also got along wonderfully with Walter and especially Carol, whom she called "honey". At first her background was that she was from Harlem, and married to Henry Evans, and would commute from Harlem to Tuckahoe to work at Maude's house.

However, Florida's background was rewritten when Good Times began, with the character now having spent most of her life in Chicago; no further references were made to the Findlays or New York.

I'm getting the point, Florida Evans seems to be more of a reboot than a spinoff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Evans

Florida was born in Tuskegee, Alabama on August 4, 1935. Originally, her character had worked for Maude and Walter Findlay, who lived in Tuckahoe, New York, while appearing on Maude. Maude was somewhat her foil, but they would eventually form a warm and happy friendship. Florida also got along wonderfully with Walter and especially Carol, whom she called "honey". At first her background was that she was from Harlem, and married to Henry Evans, and would commute from Harlem to Tuckahoe to work at Maude's house.

However, Florida's background was rewritten when Good Times began, with the character now having spent most of her life in Chicago; no further references were made to the Findlays or New York.



Thank you, it was a REBOOT which is why the story was rewritten since it was in no way connected to her reality on Maude

The character is Florida Evans.

She appeared first on Maude.

Later, she appeared on Good Times.

Reboot, revisionist history or whatever explanation is given, Good Times is still a spinoff.

The End.

Believe it or not, "Good Times" HAS links as far back as "All in the Family."

Maude Findlay was Archie Bunker's liberal cousin and spun off her own show.

Florida was Maude's second maid (after the original Mrs. Naugatuck) and spun off "Good Times."

And "The Jeffersons" was a spin-off of AITF, too!

Believe it or not, "Good Times" HAS links as far back as "All in the Family."

Maude Findlay was Archie Bunker's liberal cousin and spun off her own show.

Florida was Maude's second maid (after the original Mrs. Naugatuck) and spun off "Good Times."

And "The Jeffersons" was a spin-off of AITF, too!


Well how did Florida end up in Chicago with no money?

Well how did Florida end up in Chicago with no money?


Its been said many times but I will say as I don't mind, background rewrites are very common. In TV, producers and writers are within their right to make adjustments in order to make a specific vision to come to pass. There. Now, what is the next question as to why it is not a spinoff in your eyes? I will be happy to answer that one as well and the next one and the next one....

Oh, so you're gonna take the word of people who actually worked on the shows now??

;)


I know, right? Perhaps I should get my source from a sometimes inaccurate webpage where almost anybody can contribute rather than the participants of the series. Gee gosh wilikers! That's what I'll do! :lol:

Its been said many times but I will say as I don't mind, background rewrites are very common. In TV, producers and writers are within their right to make adjustments in order to make a specific vision to come to pass. There. Now, what is the next question as to why it is not a spinoff in your eyes? I will be happy to answer that one as well and the next one and the next one....


If no one can give me an answer to that question then it's not a debate lol

If no one can give me an answer to that question then it's not a debate lol


Solomon, I know you wanna win the debate but at the point in time, its just impossible. The chips are stacked against you. All the proof you've given is based on opinion. You've established a set of rules in your own eyes and I understand where you've coming from but its just not enough. For you to demand a reason why Florida ended up in Chi town is not a strong enough argument especially when rewrites occur all the time in TV. You're not going to get an answer for that just like some of us soap lovers will not get an answer as to why Erica Kane on All My Children was a 17 year old school girl in 1970 but then 34 years later she is still in her 40s (She should have been 51) due to a rewrite about her being raped and birthing a child right before 1970. But when I look back at a 1970 episode of All My Children, she does not look like she suffered any repercussions of the pregnancy, giving away a baby or rape at all.

I know you want to prove your case but to convince others (especially me) is very unlikely. :(

Its been said many times but I will say as I don't mind, background rewrites are very common. In TV, producers and writers are within their right to make adjustments in order to make a specific vision to come to pass. There. Now, what is the next question as to why it is not a spinoff in your eyes? I will be happy to answer that one as well and the next one and the next one....

I believe that you and I said this^ a year or two ago. Why must you and I repeat ourselves? :lol:

Solomon, I know you wanna win the debate but at the point in time, its just impossible. The chips are stacked against you. All the proof you've given is based on opinion. You've established a set of rules in your own eyes and I understand where you've coming from but its just not enough. For you to demand a reason why Florida ended up in Chi town is not a strong enough argument especially when rewrites occur all the time in TV. You're not going to get an answer for that just like some of us soap lovers will not get an answer as to why Erica Kane on All My Children was a 17 year old school girl in 1970 but then 34 years later she is still in her 40s (She should have been 51) due to a rewrite about her being raped and birthing a child right before 1970. But when I look back at a 1970 episode of All My Children, she does not look like she suffered any repercussions of the pregnancy, giving away a baby or rape at all.

I know you want to prove your case but to convince others (especially me) is very unlikely. :(

Don't forget the Family Matters rewrite, How for 4 1/2 seasons they had three kids and then all of a sudden Carl and Harriette are having a convo in the kitchen and Carl says something about how they raised have 2 great kids.