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Tootie
05-14-2006, 09:29 PM
I'm very suicidal been having thoughts for over a month now. I've been hospitalized twice. I was so close to commiting suicide. I picked up a letter opener thing and held it to my stomach I put it right by my stomach ready to stab myself I then put it down. I'm really scared what should I do?
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Nighthawk76
05-14-2006, 09:39 PM
I'm very suicidal been having thoughts for over a month now. I've been hospitalized twice. I was so close to commiting suicide. I picked up a letter opener thing and held it to my stomach I put it right by my stomach ready to stab myself I then put it down. I'm really scared what should I do?


I think that you should talk to somebody. I think everyone of us had gone through periods where we are unhappy, but I think that your problem seems to run a lot deeper then simple unhappiness. As bad as you might be feeling, taking your own life is never the answer. There are just so many things in life that are worth living for. So please talk to someone and get some help.

Warm & Fuzzy
05-14-2006, 09:58 PM
Please admit yourself to the emergency room.
Suicide is never the answer.

TALLguyinKY
05-15-2006, 12:32 AM
Yes, please get help.

http://suicidehotlines.com/

http://www.dbsalliance.org/info/suicide.html

Jo_Luvs_Ketchup
05-15-2006, 12:58 AM
Omg please as Oomph?! said, please go to the emergency room. I had a friend who had this problem and she was very close to killing herself. They took her to the hospital and she's doing great now! Please, there is a chance:) Let us know how you're doing!! PM me anytime!!!

Mr. Television
05-15-2006, 01:07 AM
I'm very suicidal been having thoughts for over a month now. I've been hospitalized twice. I was so close to commiting suicide. I picked up a letter opener thing and held it to my stomach I put it right by my stomach ready to stab myself I then put it down. I'm really scared what should I do?
Yes you need to talk to somebody immediately. I had quite a lot of suicidal thoughts when I was young too and I would do things like that. I really didn't talk to anybody and I don't know how I made it. Please get some some help.

Nighthawk76
05-15-2006, 02:25 AM
I'm very suicidal been having thoughts for over a month now. I've been hospitalized twice. I was so close to commiting suicide. I picked up a letter opener thing and held it to my stomach I put it right by my stomach ready to stab myself I then put it down. I'm really scared what should I do?


I hope that all the responses to your post shows you that everyone here is really pulling for you. I know I speak for everyone else when I beg you to please get yourself some help. I have been worried about you since first reading your post several hours ago. No matter how bad things may look right now, I promise you that it will get better.

I went through a two year period in my life where I was really depressed. The longer I remained depressed, the more I began to feel that things would never get better. It got to be so bad that I ended up in the emergency room. But I finally got some help and everything began to get better. So having experienced this myself, I know that if you get yourself some help you will be on the road to feeling better.

Tootie
05-15-2006, 09:42 PM
Thanks for the help. I'm not excatly feeling better but I feel as though I have control over this.
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EricR
05-15-2006, 11:10 PM
Just know that any problem you may have can be solved. Nothing is worth ending your precious life. Think of all the things in life that you have....and the things that you enjoy about life. I see your Brady Bunch signature. And you like Facts of Life. Don't throw away all of these things that you cherish and enjoy. Just remember- You Are Never Alone. You have others who understand you and who care about you. If it gets to be too much, go to the hospital so that you can get to feeling better. Keep your chin up!

ABlairican Pie
05-16-2006, 12:33 AM
Please, do what the "Breaking Point" episode said and get some help and talk about it with someone. We DO NOT want to lose you. You are very important to us in the Facts of Life family. Please keep in mind what could be if you give up your will to end it all. We have all been there. It gets better if you let it. Just open up and let people know how you feel. If you end it, no one can help you. And you don't want that.

Tootie
05-16-2006, 11:14 PM
Thanks everyone for the help. I tryed to ask help on IMDB and lots of people told me to just committ suicide and stop wasteing there time. Everyone here is so helpful! :) :) :) :)
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Nighthawk76
05-17-2006, 12:20 AM
Thanks everyone for the help. I tryed to ask help on IMDB and lots of people told me to just committ suicide and stop wasteing there time.


Don't listen to people like that. Your life is too important.

Mr. Television
05-17-2006, 12:22 AM
Don't listen to people like that. Your life is too important.
Exactly. People like that aren't worth you're time.

Flowergal
05-24-2006, 10:07 PM
A guy called Andrew Cavanagh wrote a book which he put on the net called "From depression to glorious health in six steps". In it he mentions how people with depression have been found to have elevated levels of PGE2. He tells about ways to endeavor to properly balance levels of PGE1 and PGE2. Some of what he says is good like some of the changes to the diet. He does talk about yoga and some other stuff that I'd never in a million years recommend. Different people obviously have different opinions about that sort of stuff. But there's some very interesting stuff in the book to be gleaned.
He seems to really care about people. I presume it's still on the net to be found if you go and google it.

So how are you doing? Have you talked to someone about it yet? If you have was it any help? The person(s) you speak with probably need to have styles somewhere between not offering any advice at all and just letting you get things off your chest and the other extreme of bossing you around. Let us know how things are going and if in a resemble amount of time you're not feeling at least somewhat better let us know and maybe we could put our heads together and come up with some help.

Warm & Fuzzy
05-28-2006, 07:55 PM
theresgonnabetrouble:
True story, I swear. Last Tuesday, I was admitted to the ER for suicide. I stayed at the hospital for 6 days. It was hard, and scary.... but now I'm on meds, and my head has cleared a bit. I made a lot of friends at the hospital with similiar problems as me, and that really helped.

Sometimes you just need some "time off" in a safe environment (like the hospital). That's what I learned, and that's certainly what I recommend.
Good luck.

EmoJoe
05-28-2006, 08:02 PM
yeah, i think you should get help :(

Jonathan
05-28-2006, 08:12 PM
Please get help, soon. :( :hug:

Nighthawk76
05-28-2006, 09:22 PM
theresgonnabetrouble:
True story, I swear. Last Tuesday, I was admitted to the ER for suicide. I stayed at the hospital for 6 days. It was hard, and scary.... but now I'm on meds, and my head has cleared a bit. I made a lot of friends at the hospital with similiar problems as me, and that really helped.

Sometimes you just need some "time off" in a safe environment (like the hospital). That's what I learned, and that's certainly what I recommend.
Good luck.


I'm happy to hear that you are feeling better.

Polniaczek033
05-28-2006, 09:42 PM
suicide is not the answer.
people don't even realize how serious it is until someone close to them does it.
and a very good friend of mine did it a year and a half ago, and my life hasn't been the same.

life is too precious to take it away like that. please get help, and please feel better.

ABlairican Pie
05-29-2006, 01:14 AM
theresgonnabetrouble:
True story, I swear. Last Tuesday, I was admitted to the ER for suicide. I stayed at the hospital for 6 days. It was hard, and scary.... but now I'm on meds, and my head has cleared a bit. I made a lot of friends at the hospital with similiar problems as me, and that really helped.

Sometimes you just need some "time off" in a safe environment (like the hospital). That's what I learned, and that's certainly what I recommend.
Good luck.That's very sad, I'm glad you're doing better.

80s_Fan
05-29-2006, 12:40 PM
I know how you feel; a long time ago during my teen years, I was unhappy
and very negative and thought of committing suicide all the time. Then, back in 1992; I went back to school to get my high school diploma and spoke to a guidance counselor who suggested that I go and get help; so I did and now since then; I'm a lot more positive and happier. I still get negative at times and think about ending my life but I have realized that suicide is not the answer. If you and/or anyone else ever needs to talk to someone; I'm here.

On the other hand; if you have and/or still try to committ suicide then you need professional help and don't wait till it's too late; do it now.

Tuesday Weld
05-29-2006, 03:10 PM
Thanks everyone for the help. I tryed to ask help on IMDB and lots of people told me to just committ suicide and stop wasteing there time. Everyone here is so helpful! :) :) :) :)

Geez, the people at IMDB sound like idiots! ohno:

gilligan fanatic
05-29-2006, 03:13 PM
I never understood suicide. Living a hard life is a lot better than living a life in Hell.

MsOrange
05-29-2006, 04:17 PM
I never understood suicide. Living a hard life is a lot better than living a life in Hell.
you don't go to hell for committing suicide.

I really don't have any "i can relate" type advice. But please get help! I haven't been in the situation, but I have been on the other end of it. I had a cousin commit suicide. It was extremely hard. Please get help, if not for yourself, but for those who love you and care about you.

gilligan fanatic
05-29-2006, 04:39 PM
you don't go to hell for committing suicide.

I got to disagree with that. I was taught if you sin you ask God for forgiveness and if you kill yourself you really can't ask now can you.

Nighthawk76
05-29-2006, 04:52 PM
I got to disagree with that. I was taught if you sin you ask God for forgiveness and if you kill yourself you really can't ask now can you.


I was taught that too, but I simply think that it is church dogma. God is loving, carring and forgiving. I don't think he sends people who commit suicide to hell.

gilligan fanatic
05-29-2006, 04:59 PM
I was taught that too, but I simply think that it is church dogma. God is loving, carring and forgiving. I don't think he sends people who commit suicide to hell.

Doesn't that seem to be a contradictory? He gives you life and you take it away.

Mr. Television
05-29-2006, 05:21 PM
I got to disagree with that. I was taught if you sin you ask God for forgiveness and if you kill yourself you really can't ask now can you.
That's what I was taught and what I believe but nobody but God really knows. I do understand about wanting to kill yourself though . I thought about it a lot in school and even did some of the things that theresgonnabetrouble did but instead of a letter opener I used scissors. . My thoughts were that I'm already living in Hell. How worst can it be? I didn't really talk to anybody about these thoughts. It's a miracle I didn't do anything. I think what stopped me was the pain I would cause my family. I loved them more then I hated myself.

MsOrange
05-29-2006, 06:23 PM
I got to disagree with that. I was taught if you sin you ask God for forgiveness and if you kill yourself you really can't ask now can you.
Alright, fine. A married man walks into a store and looks at a woman lustfully, therefore "committing adultery with your heart" (it's in the bible, look it up, that whole ten commandements thing). He walks out of hte store, and bam, gets hit by a bus.

Really didn't have much time to ask for forgiveness, now did he?

Sin does not send you to hell, and no sin is greater than the other. Killing yourself will not send you to hell.

MsOrange
05-29-2006, 06:25 PM
Doesn't that seem to be a contradictory? He gives you life and you take it away.
Yes, it is. Along w/ people commiting adultery when given the blessing of a marriage. Along w/ people beating a child when they are really a blessing. Along with every other sin that we commit against God every single day. That's why GOd sent his son Jesus, to DIE for OUR SINS. He gave his blood so that we dind't have to spend all enternity in hell. No one is absensent of sin, no matter when or how you die. You will die and have some sin that you haven't asked for forgiveness for, because no sin is less or greater than the other.

I will never believe that God "sends" people to hell who ask for the forgiveness of Christ. No matter how early or late in life. If a saved person commits sucidie, they WILL go to Heaven. Once saved, always save. You can't loose your salvation, you can get farther and farther away from God and hurt your relationship, but you will never loose your salvation if you are truly saved. And only you and God know the answer to that.

gilligan fanatic
05-29-2006, 06:27 PM
Alright, fine. A married man walks into a store and looks at a woman lustfully, therefore "committing adultery with your heart" (it's in the bible, look it up, that whole ten commandements thing). He walks out of hte store, and bam, gets hit by a bus.

Really didn't have much time to ask for forgiveness, now did he?

Sin does not send you to hell, and no sin is greater than the other. Killing yourself will not send you to hell.

you can think that all you want but I just don't agree with that. They both may be sins, and not one sin is worse than the other but he didn't take his own life. God took the man's life who got hit by the bus.

MsOrange
05-29-2006, 06:28 PM
you can think that all you want but I just don't agree with that. They both may be sins, and not one sin is worse than the other but he didn't take his own life. God took the man's life who got hit by the bus.
So in other words, committing suicide is the ultimate sin? But no sin is greater than the other right? Isn't that contradictory??

I'm not trying to insult your beliefs, just trying to figure out why you believe God could be that cruel.

Sharop
05-29-2006, 06:36 PM
I don't actually believe in a hell. I'm reading a series of books called Conversations with God (there are three of them) and they're written by a guy called Neale Donald Walsch who wrote down his conversations with God, and God says there's no such place as hell. These are great books, and I recommend them to anyone who's interested. God says that when we die, we pretty much create our own circumstances/surroundings, and we can do whatever we want to/see whoever want to, etc.

But I would advise anyone considering suicide to seek help. People can help, and lives can be improved.

MsOrange
05-29-2006, 06:38 PM
I don't actually believe in a hell. I'm reading a series of books called Conversations with God (there are three of them) and they're written by a guy called Neale Donald Walsch who wrote down his conversations with God, and God says there's no such place as hell. These are great books, and I recommend them to anyone who's interested. God says that when we die, we pretty much create our own circumstances/surroundings, and we can do whatever we want to/see whoever want to, etc.

Not trying to insult anything you believe, but does that mean a pedophile can live in a room full of naked children when he dies?

Courtnee
05-29-2006, 06:39 PM
I never understood suicide. Living a hard life is a lot better than living a life in Hell.
That's because you've probably never been through the type of pain that people who attempt suicide have gone through. I've been to that breaking point and let me just say that it's not fun. So before you start saying that people who commit suicide are going to hell, maybe you should walk a mile or two in their shoes.


Theresgonnabetrouble, please seek metal help. I've been where you are now and i know how you feel. Please don't do anything crazy.

Sharop
05-29-2006, 06:45 PM
Not trying to insult anything you believe, but does that mean a pedophile can live in a room full of naked children when he dies?

Theoretically, yes, he could.

I really recommend these Conversations with God books, though, they're great. I used to be concerned about hell and the Devil, but now I believe that neither exist, thanks to what God says in these books. And I love the idea of being able to create my own reality when I'm dead. The first thing I'm going to do when I die is get a coke and go and watch Back to the Future at the cinema; I've always wished I could have seen it on the big screen.

gilligan fanatic
05-29-2006, 06:57 PM
That's because you've probably never been through the type of pain that people who attempt suicide have gone through. I've been to that breaking point and let me just say that it's not fun. So before you start saying that people who commit suicide are going to hell, maybe you should walk a mile or two in their shoes.


Theresgonnabetrouble, please seek metal help. I've been where you are now and i know how you feel. Please don't do anything crazy.

I fell bad for them and everyone else with the condition but its a foolish mistake no matter who does it. I don't have to be in that situation. You could say that about alcoholics or anyone else too. I am not in there situation either but being hooked on drugs or alcohol isn't right either. Just because you are depressed about things doesn't make things you do right.

Courtnee
05-29-2006, 06:59 PM
I feel bad for them and everyone else with the condition but its a foolish mistake no matter who does it. I don't have to be in that situation. You could say that about alcoholics or anyone else too. I am not in there situation either but being hooked on drugs or alcohol isn't right either. Just because you are depressed about things doesn't make things you do right.
I didn't say that it was right. This dude is going through hard times and he needs help. Not the idea that "he's going to hell" for hating life.

gilligan fanatic
05-29-2006, 07:00 PM
So in other words, committing suicide is the ultimate sin? But no sin is greater than the other right? Isn't that contradictory??

I'm not trying to insult your beliefs, just trying to figure out why you believe God could be that cruel.

You have many things that can be replaced, but you can't replace your own life. If you don't kill yourself and when you get better you will have a greater appreciation for life. God may want you to have the greater appreciation and if you take your life away you will never see it get better. People are down about stuff all the time but they always get better and learn what makes them great.

Courtnee
05-29-2006, 07:06 PM
You have many things that can be replaced, but you can't replace your own life. If you don't kill yourself and when you get better you will have a greater appreciation for life. God may want you to have the greater appreciation and if you take your life away you will never see it get better. People are down about stuff all the time but they always get better and learn what makes them great.
It's not always easy for someone with depression to get better. It takes many months or even years.

gilligan fanatic
05-29-2006, 07:43 PM
It's not always easy for someone with depression to get better. It takes many months or even years.

what's your point. Some things take time. It may be a slow process but it sure beats being dead.

Nighthawk76
05-29-2006, 07:44 PM
Doesn't that seem to be a contradictory? He gives you life and you take it away.


I'm just not sure.

Nighthawk76
05-29-2006, 07:45 PM
That's what I was taught and what I believe but nobody but God really knows. I do understand about wanting to kill yourself though . I thought about it a lot in school and even did some of the things that theresgonnabetrouble did but instead of a letter opener I used scissors. . My thoughts were that I'm already living in Hell. How worst can it be? I didn't really talk to anybody about these thoughts. It's a miracle I didn't do anything. I think what stopped me was the pain I would cause my family. I loved them more then I hated myself.


I'm sorry, Sonny. :(

I don't think I need to tell you that I'm glad that you are still with us.

Nighthawk76
05-29-2006, 07:47 PM
Theoretically, yes, he could.

I really recommend these Conversations with God books, though, they're great. I used to be concerned about hell and the Devil, but now I believe that neither exist, thanks to what God says in these books. And I love the idea of being able to create my own reality when I'm dead. The first thing I'm going to do when I die is get a coke and go and watch Back to the Future at the cinema; I've always wished I could have seen it on the big screen.


I saw all three Back to the Futures at the theater. :D I was nine years old when the first one was released in 1985. I was in 8th grade for the other too.

Tuesday Weld
05-29-2006, 08:59 PM
I'm sorry, Sonny. :(

I don't think I need to tell you that I'm glad that you are still with us.

Ditto.

dawsongirl
05-29-2006, 09:41 PM
I got to disagree with that. I was taught if you sin you ask God for forgiveness and if you kill yourself you really can't ask now can you.
That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Humans have weaknesses and I'd like to think God understands that.

And hardly helpful in this situation. Telling a possibly suicidal person that they're going to hell. Why not just hand them a gun??

dawsongirl
05-29-2006, 09:45 PM
you can think that all you want but I just don't agree with that. They both may be sins, and not one sin is worse than the other but he didn't take his own life. God took the man's life who got hit by the bus.
hmm...God gave me the life, so am I not allowed to do what I want with it?? I don't see how suicide is any different that all the 10857563839 other ways humans kill themselves. Eating the wrong foods, drinking too much, taking risks, smoking....are all those people who are slowly killing themselves going to hell too?

Dutabi84
05-29-2006, 09:45 PM
And hardly helpful in this situation. Telling a possibly suicidal person that they're going to hell. Why not just hand them a gun??


No kidding. Some people just don't fully grasp the concept of being tactful.

Dutabi84
05-29-2006, 09:47 PM
hmm...God gave me the life, so am I not allowed to do what I want with it?? I don't see how suicide is any different that all the 10857563839 other ways humans kill themselves. Eating the wrong foods, drinking too much, taking risks, smoking....are all those people who are slowly killing themselves going to hell too?

You know that Dr. Pepper you had for dinner last night?? Well, you might as well pack your bags, because I do believe you purchased yourself a 1st class ticket to Hell.

dawsongirl
05-29-2006, 09:49 PM
That's because you've probably never been through the type of pain that people who attempt suicide have gone through.

:yeahthat

I've said it 1000 times and I'll probably say it 1000 times more...people without depression DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT. Yet they all seem to think they have the right to judge. Like yer mommas told y'all....IF YOU HAVE NOTHING NICE (and reassuring) TO SAY, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. Seriously....they have no idea what their non-understanding words say to depressed people.

dawsongirl
05-29-2006, 09:50 PM
You know that Dr. Pepper you had for dinner last night?? Well, you might as well pack your bags, because I do believe you purchased yourself a 1st class ticket to Hell.
:crying:

ABlairican Pie
05-29-2006, 09:52 PM
Alright, fine. A married man walks into a store and looks at a woman lustfully, therefore "committing adultery with your heart" (it's in the bible, look it up, that whole ten commandements thing). He walks out of hte store, and bam, gets hit by a bus.

Really didn't have much time to ask for forgiveness, now did he?

Sin does not send you to hell, and no sin is greater than the other. Killing yourself will not send you to hell.Technically, the "adultery in your heart" thing is in Christ's Sermon on the Mount, but, yeah.

Actually, the definition of sin is "missing the mark", or "falling short" of God's ideal--which pretty much puts everyone in the same boat. It's not necessarily something we do as much as a condition we're in. I would say that committing mass murder IS a little bit bigger than like doing things that put hair on one's palms, etc. ;)

God won't send a person to hell for committing such an act as suicide, God understands that a person has problems that seem insurmountable, and suicide is something that reflects a person's state of mind, with things like depression.

dawsongirl
05-29-2006, 09:53 PM
what's your point. Some things take time. It may be a slow process but it sure beats being dead.
And if you understood the suicidal mind, you'd know why that statement seems awfully callous to a suicidal person. You have no right to judge someone's thought process when you aren't remotely in their shoes.

Mr. Television
05-29-2006, 09:54 PM
I fell bad for them and everyone else with the condition but its a foolish mistake no matter who does it. I don't have to be in that situation. You could say that about alcoholics or anyone else too. I am not in there situation either but being hooked on drugs or alcohol isn't right either. Just because you are depressed about things doesn't make things you do right.
It might not be right but you don't understand what that person is going through unless you've been there yourself and even then all people handle things differently. I had a lot of hate bottled up in me at that time. I hated School. I didn't have very many friends. I was picked on constantly. My schoolwork suffered. If I didn't have a good homelife at least I don't know what I would have done. I remember thinking back then that I'd be surprised if I ever lived to be 20. My Mom was very religious and I was especially close to her. I think she's the main reason I didn't do anything.

ABlairican Pie
05-29-2006, 09:58 PM
you can think that all you want but I just don't agree with that. They both may be sins, and not one sin is worse than the other but he didn't take his own life. God took the man's life who got hit by the bus.HUH????!!!!! :eek: :confused:

God wasn't apparently too concerned about the bus driver who is now thoroughly traumatized and has this on his record.

Is this God's way of punishing someone for doing what humans naturally think of every 3,756,849 nanoseconds of every waking moment??

dawsongirl
05-29-2006, 10:02 PM
HUH????!!!!! :eek: :confused:

God wasn't apparently too concerned about the bus driver who is now thoroughly traumatized and has this on his record.

Is this God's way of punishing someone for doing what humans naturally think of every 3,756,849 nanoseconds of every waking moment??
His God must only be concerned with damning the evil doers. *shrugs*

Tuesday Weld
05-29-2006, 10:08 PM
I don't believe that God punishes people, anyway. He gives us all the chances we need. JMO.

ThomasE
05-29-2006, 10:48 PM
I never understood suicide. Living a hard life is a lot better than living a life in Hell.


I agree with you there. I am not sure if the individual would go to hell or not, but I would not want to take that chance. I know that it sounds cliche' to say what I am about to say, but one must take control of their life. I just got some shocking news today that a friend of mine that I have known for over 20 years now since grade school was killed friday night in a car accident. She was leaving Lousiana on a road trip back to Tampa, FL. It was understood that she was going to buy land. She was going to spend the holiday with her family. She was beautiful and smart and wanted to study acting.

Things happen so quickly and an in untimely manner. I had to work througout the weekend so I am not sure my mother wanted me to know. I can probably understand why because it would have blindsided me. I have been dealing with that all day including the death of my uncle last thursday.

Things happen. We should never throw away our life. Whatever problems we do have, we go through through. Self-Pity is not always a good thing. We can pray and believe for the best.

Nighthawk76
05-30-2006, 02:10 AM
hmm...God gave me the life, so am I not allowed to do what I want with it?? I don't see how suicide is any different that all the 10857563839 other ways humans kill themselves. Eating the wrong foods, drinking too much, taking risks, smoking....are all those people who are slowly killing themselves going to hell too?


Cathy, I think that commiting suicide is a very different thing then drinking too much, smoking and eating the wrong foods. Someone who commits suicide is intentionally ending their life. Just because you drink too much or smoke doesn't mean you are going to die from it.

Sharop
05-30-2006, 06:48 AM
No one needs to worry. There's no such place as hell. No one is going to hell. You'll be able to create great experiences for yourself when you're dead. :) You'll have fun. :)

That being said, it is possible to have fun in this life also, and I think people who are considering suicide should at least try to get help first. I think suicide should be as a last resort.

Justwondering
06-04-2006, 09:10 AM
As is often said, suicide is a permanent solution to what are merely temporary problems!