If one of the moderators or even TJ could clarify

what exactly does a BAD TRADER need to do to get on the Banned and Canned list?

I mean it seems somewhat arbitrary (and I am NOT blaming the mods, they have a hell of a job to deal with)

BUT, i have seen some people get banned who were GOOD TRADERS but who used bad language and personal attacks, and we have all seen someone get several bad trader posts and get Banned

BUT there have been people lately who have gotten A TON OF BAD REPORTS and COMPLAINTS to the mods and they are still here?

I understand it takes more than just 1 bad trade, or 2 bad posts, and I dont want to see this become a harsh fascist regime

BUT there are some with numerous open issues, who are still here

I aint naming no names, some u can see on the BAD TRADERS section, some that I know of, have a ton of complaints BUT NO POSTS ABOUT IT,

was just wondering, is there a certain # of complaints til someone gets banned, or is it at TJs discretion or whats the deal??

I thought that once a name went on the bad trader official board list--- they were outta here like last weeks garbage?

to clarify

i understand that JUST BECAUSE i say so and so is a bad trader
that does NOT make it so, BUT i am talking about users with lots of complaints, from more than 1 person, and that a moderator has independently reviewed and placed on the BAD TRADERS LIST

i think people like that should be removed :(

PS another question--- LANGUAGE? I have seen this week a thread TOTALLY REMOVED for having the Word "A$$" in it, now that is a realllllll tame word, they can say it in PG movies and its real common, BUT yet that post got pulled becaus of 1 word?

and YET in the CHIT CHAT section, I checked that out recently and there was a HUGE LONG THREAD about how to perform certain Sex Acts? and that was a whole lot more vulgar than the "A" word

do other boards have other standards? or is a grey area? NOT TRYING TO CAUSE A STIR, just want to clarify for all of us

I'd rather that answer come out of the Owners Mouth- so I dropped the thread link his way

that is fine, this might be a situation where it needs to come down from the mountain
so that no confusion exists

i know the moderators have a tough job, but it just seems like (even though its easy to say that) "If It were my call....." :eek: :p

:crysoup:

to clarify

i understand that JUST BECAUSE i say so and so is a bad trader
that does NOT make it so, BUT i am talking about users with lots of complaints, from more than 1 person, and that a moderator has independently reviewed and placed on the BAD TRADERS LIST

i think people like that should be removed :(

PS another question--- LANGUAGE? I have seen this week a thread TOTALLY REMOVED for having the Word "A$$" in it, now that is a realllllll tame word, they can say it in PG movies and its real common, BUT yet that post got pulled becaus of 1 word?

and YET in the CHIT CHAT section, I checked that out recently and there was a HUGE LONG THREAD about how to perform certain Sex Acts? and that was a whole lot more vulgar than the "A" word

do other boards have other standards? or is a grey area? NOT TRYING TO CAUSE A STIR, just want to clarify for all of us

My favorite and this was about a week ago , had this subject line, Crystal is a whore.

Obviously anything goes.

Harvey

im not offended by that type of talk, but i know that some are

however, if real filthy talk can go on there, but the "A" word is a no no here i dont get it

also my question is, why have a BAD TRADER LIST if that is not automatic cause to ban someone?

:crazy:

i honestly dont have a clue what the relationship between "bad traders", the "bad traders list" and getting banned is, but maybe i can help answer part of your other questions

do other boards have other standards? or is a grey area? NOT TRYING TO CAUSE A STIR, just want to clarify for all of us the other boards, and all of SO is supposed to be rated "PG", i believe that TJ has explained that most words that are off-limits should be automatically censored by the profanity filter on the board - just dont try to go around the filters, or post any pics that break the rules and you should be OK.

...in the CHIT CHAT section, I checked that out recently and there was a HUGE LONG THREAD about how to perform certain Sex Acts? and that was a whole lot more vulgar than the "A" word unfortunately, no moderator can read every single post in every thread that gets posted - unless someone REPORTS something that breaks the rules, there is no way to guarantee that it will be caught in every case - and I believe that the thread which you are referring to on Chit Chat was closed within a couple of days. This is a public board, people are going to break rules; we just have to do the best we can to enforce them and keep the peace.

also my question is, why have a BAD TRADER LIST if that is not automatic cause to ban someone?

:crazy:

As I said I'll et TJ address more of this, But....

The Bad trader- Dont' forget there are oobers of forums on here.
Being a bad trader can mean you dind't send out, or you don't know what your doing.
Your learning, or you over estiamted yourself-
You don't have to be a scammer to be a bad trader
And being a bad trader, doesnt' mean you don't automatically have a contribution or in time, can add to one of the many other forums.

Not even a quarter of the users of SitcomsOnline are traders.
The traders forum is ONE of many forums.
Therefore, it wouldn't be entirely fair to simply remove a user from the entire site, if they can't produce good trades.

Speaking very generalized there.

i honestly dont have a clue what the relationship between "bad traders", the "bad traders list" and getting banned is, but maybe i can help answer part of your other questions

the other boards, and all of SO is supposed to be rated "PG", i believe that TJ has explained that most words that are off-limits should be automatically censored by the profanity filter on the board - just dont try to go around the filters, or post any pics that break the rules and you should be OK.

unfortunately, no moderator can read every single post in every thread that gets posted - unless someone REPORTS something that breaks the rules, there is no way to guarantee that it will be caught in every case - and I believe that the thread which you are referring to on Chit Chat was closed within a couple of days. This is a public board, people are going to break rules; we just have to do the best we can to enforce them and keep the peace.

The thread on giving oral sex was up for more then three days, in fact covered more then one page. Are you saying no moderator noticed this thread at all but in the same breath you found this post in hours? Crystal is a dirty whore was up for more then a week, again all moderators missed it.

Your making fun of my intelligence.

Harvey

i got ya on that 1, and i understand u cannot comment on the BAD TRADERS LIST and all since u dont hang out here much

but, i honestly dont think anyone that i know and trade with would be offended by the "A" word, except perhaps the person who was refered to as an "A" Kisser

that seems like a realllll PG word to me

now was it in good taste or not? that can be debated but i doubt anyone considers that word to be profane or obscene

:D

And being a bad trader, doesnt' mean you don't automatically have a contribution or in time, can add to one of the many other forums.
.
of some names on the bad trader list who have never contributed squat

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The thread on giving oral sex was up for more then three days, in fact covered more then one page. Are you saying no moderator noticed this thread at all but in the same breath you found this post in hours? Crystal is a dirty whore was up for more then a week, again all moderators missed it.

Your making fun of my intelligence.

Harveyi only saw that thread once - it was gone the next time i looked, i dont know how long it was up for, but I assume that Janice got rid of it as soon as she was aware of it.

as for seeing this thread in hours - pure coincidence that i saw it when i did.

the "Crystal is a pirate whore" thread is an inside joke amongst the members who post in it - i havent read every post in there by any means, but if there is something in there that offended anyone - including Crystal (who is one of the main posters in that thread) - it would've been taken care of if it had been reported.

i have nothing but respect for your intelligence and many years of experience, but it is a simple fact that moderators must sometimes rely on other members on the boards to use the report feature to do their jobs here.

i got ya on that 1, and i understand u cannot comment on the BAD TRADERS LIST and all since u dont hang out here much

but, i honestly dont think anyone that i know and trade with would be offended by the "A" word, except perhaps the person who was refered to as an "A" Kisser

that seems like a realllll PG word to me

now was it in good taste or not? that can be debated but i doubt anyone considers that word to be profane or obscene

:D
simple test of the profanity filter:

ass

*******

*****

****

****

michael moore

youisaracist

************

I can think of Good traders that are an absolute terror

I can think of "bad traders'
but who frequent other areas of the board and do just fine for chit chatting etc-
Just got overwhelmed with trading, or just honestly- weren't very good at it

Which is why there is not hard fast set rule

And although not every moderator, knows each area-
In example, RobyRob was the one who caught ChipsNSoda- becuase he posted on the Happy Days forum not here- and BOY am I glad they did.

As well NOT being involved in trades, and not knowing all of you so well, lets other moderators be more objective-
And more issue oriented instead of subject.


I am thankful for the diversity in the forums and groups-

And the simple fact is there may be certain things that for SURe will get you banned
Threatening another member-
Extreme Profanity-
Obvious intention of being on the board for only negative reasons

The rules cover the basics of what will Automatically ban you

The rest is of course going to be determined by the moderators, administrators and of course the owner.

I can think of Good traders that are an absolute terror

I can think of "bad traders'
but who frequent other areas of the board and do just fine for chit chatting etc-
Just got overwhelmed with trading, or just honestly- weren't very good at it

Which is why there is not hard fast set rule

And although not every moderator, knows each area-
In example, RobyRob was the one who caught ChipsNSoda- becuase he posted on the Happy Days forum not here- and BOY am I glad they did.

As well NOT being involved in trades, and not knowing all of you so well, lets other moderators be more objective-
And more issue oriented instead of subject.


I am thankful for the diversity in the forums and groups-

And the simple fact is there may be certain things that for SURe will get you banned
Threatening another member-
Extreme Profanity-
Obvious intention of being on the board for only negative reasons

The rules cover the basics of what will Automatically ban you

The rest is of course going to be determined by the moderators, administrators and of course the owner.

What's extreme profanity vs little profanity? Number of words, how many words, how many times etc. It's like saying a little pregnant or a lot pregnant. There ain't a difference, either your pregnant or not. Either you use profanity or you don't, not extreme.

Harvey

ok cool, i feel so grown up now, i can say the word "ass" without fear

:lol: :lol:

so if we can say that word, b/c the moderator said it, and the filter lets it through, how come the post from 2 days ago, got pulled because it has "Ass Kiss" chap stick in it?

also, i do understand about bad traders who contribute in other areas, BUT I can think of some on the bad trader list, who have NEVER posted in any other area at all, except to try to trade through individual show pages, and so they dont fit the mold

What's extreme profanity vs little profanity? Number of words, how many words, how many times etc. It's like saying a little pregnant or a lot pregnant. There ain't a difference, either your pregnant or not. Either you use profanity or you don't, not extreme.

Harvey


Is that ASS is mild profanity

but if i were to say Harvey is a "no Good M*$&^r F*!@*@* piece of S*#*#* or such" that would be extreme

i guess.... i mean we now know ASS is ok

NOW HERE THIS, NOW HERE THIS
Announcement--- there can now be ASS on the trading post

I can think of Good traders that are an absolute terror




:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

I do a little trading, maybe one or two trades a month, but I still love reading the Tape Trading board. Some of the funniest threads are started here and this is one of them. :lol:

You assuming why a thread got pulled

What I said in the thread, is some would find that post inappropriate-

And I was refering to the entire post-


It was pulled later, and if you feel you need to know why contact a moderator or adminstrator privately.

As far as what words are allowed

Of course I would liek to think that in the entire archive of language, we coudl perhaps use other words-
I know that words will pop up- some consider damnit offense, some consider the world hell offensive
The fact is they are common day words


Any word may be offensive to any individual and that individual may raise a complaint.

As far as things go-

You can say for example- in the rules it states antagonizing a moderator, or calling their judgement into question is a rule not to be broken.
I can name ten people off the top of my head that do this to me weekly.

A matter of judgement.

I am not giving permission to use any words- your choice of vocabulary is up to you-
Some will find them offensive and some may carry consequences.
There is not set standard for that-
and I won't be quoted saying

Hell is ok.
Damn isn't
Ass is okay
Sh* isn't.

There is intent to sentences, and intentions of the use.

"That guy is Damn Good.

Not offensive

:that guy is a Damn Liar"

Offensive.


Some of this is common sense.

And when I say extreme profanity.

There are words that are consider profanity
Others use casually

And while you can either use or not use profanity your right either you do or don't-
If we threw people off the board for every word cosnidered profane to others, there would be 8 people left on the board- and nobody posting here is one of them :)

So while Lilhave is right you either use it or you dont, I still say there are EXTREME words of profanity.
And I won't say them, cuz my mom raised me right.

Is that ASS is mild profanity

but if i were to say Harvey is a "no Good M*$&^r F*!@*@* piece of S*#*#* or such" that would be extreme

i guess.... i mean we now know ASS is ok

NOW HERE THIS, NOW HERE THIS
Announcement--- there can now be ASS on the trading post

Have you been speaking to my wife.? You left off "first class ba__ bus___."

and listen to George Carlins 7 WORDS YOU CANT SAY ON TELEVISION

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have to say I don't check the Bad Traders list that often. I always thought of that as just a reference list for people to avoid or be careful of as they were risky to trade with. I've never cross-referenced that list with the usernames here. I suppose if Kim or somebody wanted to compile a list of usernames that haven't been banned, I'll look into it on a case-by-case basis. 95% of the people banned that were from the Traders Post area have been done so based on the suggestions of the moderators. Obviously, repeat offenders are much more likely to get banned than those that rarely cause any trouble.

Lamont, can you tell me who here was banned just because of bad language and personal attacks? There have even been people that have given multiple chances, but if they don't make a plea to come back or show any remorse then they probably won't be unbanned. Basically, if somebody feels they were unjustly banned they need to come to me to state their case. I'm always willing to listen.

As far as what words get censored, ass isn't but ******* is. You hear ass on broadcast tv nowadays. The filter list is quite lengthy, as I know (but never use them) quite a few bad words. :) Unfortunately the censor list doesn't stop people from being cute and creative and going around the filter. If you are going to swear, it's better to just type it out and have it censored.

I consider the site PG-13. You can't register if you are under 13. There might be a little more leeway given on Chit Chat, but things don't spin way out of control.

TJ much thanks for laying the cards on the table, ill email u privately about who and what i was refering to, as i do NOT want to play out all arguements again :eek: :eek:

as for bad traders---- TO ME, i think that at the time a name goes on the bad trader list, they should be banned at the same time---- and ONLY if they can demonstrate to a moderator that ALL ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED with no complaints for a set time like 6 months, MAYBE let them back

but----- this sure aint called "WhatLamontWants.com" so i can live with the rules that are in place

It's all the way a word is used to. You can type...

I don't give a rat's ass about that new dvd.

Dick Cheney is an ass. (politic's board only)

however...

It's unacceptable and in violation of the rules (personal attacks)....

Savageamusement is an ass/kissass/asskisser/******* or any variation of ass. etc, etc.


As for Chit Chat, every reported post is looked at. TJ and I moderate that board, and we're not always around. A post or thread can be there for hours, or even days, if it's not reported.

Also, the word whore is not on the list of censored words, so Crystal's thread isn't breaking any rules.

You can write the worst profanity that comes to mind. The system's filter will censor any word that's not allowed.

i didnt view the "ass kisser" post as a personal attack

it was obviously "tongue in cheek" (or Cheeks-- if u will excuse the bad pun)
I thought it was intended in a humorous sense
and i didnt find that to be offensive
even if it was about me, i wouldnt find it to be offensive


maybe i have thicker skin

i dont know, but it takes more than that to offend us Junkyard folks

:grady: GOOD GOOGLEY MOOGLEY!

however...

It's unacceptable and in violation of the rules (personal attacks)....

Savageamusement is an ass/kissass/asskisser/******* or any variation of ass. etc, etc.


As for Chit Chat, every reported post is looked at. TJ and I moderate that board, and we're not always around. A post or thread can be there for hours, or even days, if it's not reported.

Also, the word whore is not on the list of censored words, so Crystal's thread isn't breaking any rules.

You can write the worst profanity that comes to mind. The system's filter will censor any word that's not allowed.

Let me get this straight,

As a woman you would be more offended if someone referred to you as an "asskisser" as compared to a, ummm I don't know ..........let's say, "a whore"

The exact thread was "Crystal is a dirty rotten whore"

in my book this = personal attack.

The word was used in the same context.

AGAIN your bringing up a previous post- and taking ONE area of ONE post of ONE thread.


The thread was not moved for the word ASS

It was moved because the original intention was to apologize, the intention was obviously not taken.
The thread spun off topic horribly.

There were areas that were offensive to some users, and profane to others.
It was openly hostile to a moderator- Me, to speak in third tense.
It involved other areas, and some original posters of topics reported it and requested areas to be removed or edited- and for that sake the entire thread was just moved

Once again for the last time.

An entire thread was not moved over the word Ass.
This is the second time I have refrenced this in this thread alone.

It is an example- as Janice just said that intention DOES mean something as does inflection.

In example, if a user is called an "ass kisser" for agreeing with a mod, some consider that intimidating that they are being judged for having their own opinion.

The "Ass kissing comment" actualyl has come up, in several threads, I belive the last time, was a week ago when there was a thread "savage sucks the fun out of trading"
several users tried to defend what they thought was my honor, and were called "ass kissers'

Some find that intimidating, and insultng.

And even that, was not removed- the thread was not removed- as an example

Tolerance, intention, interpretation, history of the user-

And so on, and so forth.

Sigh.


Language can be taken hostily-and when you add in, the lack of voice, the lack of personal qualities an online "board" can have-
It all the more eaisly can get taken out of terms and offend others.

No moderator, myself included is so naive, and so fragile that the word ASS is going to set one of us off, or ban a user over it.

But if an entire thread, is a mockery of its original intention and peoples are being mocked for simply agreeing with another user, that might.

Let me get this straight,

As a woman you would be more offended if someone referred to you as an "asskisser" as compared to a, ummm I don't know ..........let's say, "a whore"

The exact thread was "Crystal is a dirty rotten whore"

in my book this = personal attack.

The word was used in the same context.
Crystal is in on that joke. If you read the thread, she's laughing her ass off in the second post. They're a bunch of friends who have been members for years, goofing around and being silly.

If someone calls a member a kissass (or any variation), and it's intended as an insult/personal attack, then that's in violation.

If anyone here wants to call me Either an "asskisser" or a "whore"
you can feel free to do so

and i promise not to get mad

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

*** P.S. I assumed the thread got pulled for the ASSKISSER comment, and since it appears that it did not get pulled solely for that, then i apologize for assuming... I am but a mere southern boy and not privy to all the behind the scenes stuff sometimes...

The exact thread was "Crystal is a dirty rotten whore"

in my book this = personal attack.

The word was used in the same context.

The exact thread IS "Crystal is a dirty PIRATE whore", and the context IS different because the phrase is being used as a joke between friends - if your friends dont mind you calling them an asskisser (or vice-versa) in public, then so be it.

ass.ass.asssass.ass.ass.ass.ok ass hole..yeeee haww,i been wanting to cuss so bad thanks yall..a load off my cheast.,..ok time to get back being a good boy,,:lol: :happyface

he lives even further down south then me, so he cant help himself

ha ha ha ha ha

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It was openly hostile to a moderator- Me, to speak in third tense.
.

I love how you try and deflect cotroversy all the time - How in the world was it being hostile to a moderator? (The thread in question)

This I have to hear.


If I'm gonna be a terror, I'm getting my money's worth tonight.

I'm deflecting controversy right now-

I'll email you privately about that-

I think the point has been raised answered crucified, ressurected, and raised again honestly.

And I don't see how discussing it one more time is gonna get any one person to waiver their opinion on it.

Crystal is in on that joke. If you read the thread, she's laughing her ass off in the second post. They're a bunch of friends who have been members for years, goofing around and being silly.

If someone calls a member a kissass (or any variation), and it's intended as an insult/personal attack, then that's in violation.

Calling someone a whore is a way of goofing around and being silly.? I'm from New York , and we can be quite liberal but to call someone a whore is not a way of making fun. To many whore equates with trash but then again that's how they joke around, you tell me. Any chance some could be offended by that thread or the whole board equates that remark with good clean fun.

Let someone call my wife that and will see how much they laugh.

Harvey

Calling someone a whore is a way of goofing around and being silly.?
That's exactly right.
I'm from New york , and we can be quite liberal but to call someone a whore is not a way of making fun. To many whore equates with trash but then again that's how they joke around you tell me.
The members don't equate it with trash. They're young and having fun.

Any chance some could be offended by that thread or the whole board equates that remark with good clean fun.
I guess you're offended, but it's not against the rules, so you'll have to learn to cope, as best you can.
Let someone call my wife that and will see how much they laugh.
Doesn't matter who laughs. It's their private thread on the Random board. They think it's funny. That's all that matters.

I guess you're offended, but it's not against the rules, so you'll have to learn to cope, as best you can.

.



Harv,

I think you got dissed by a 'Sux fan - are you gonna take that?

I swear there is more crying and whining in this thread than I have ever seen. Harv, I know you are an old guy who is set in your ways, but truth be told, if Crystal isn't bothered by it than nobody else should be. I guess it is no more annoying to you than the 10,000 jokes of the day you post that nobody reads.

I swear there is more crying and whining in this thread than I have ever seen. Harv, I know you are an old guy who is set in your ways, but truth be told, if Crystal isn't bothered by it than nobody else should be. I guess it is no more annoying to you than the 10,000 jokes of the day you post that nobody reads.
OMG...that is the truth. I read one of those posts last week and it was sooooo old. I now know why I don't read those "jokes". Once was enough.

I think you got dissed by a 'Sux fan
:lol:

I luv that picture !!

I have it as an avatar on some other board.

I luv that picture !!

I have it as an avatar on some other board.
Cool. :cool:

Originally Posted by lilhave
The thread on giving oral sex was up for more then three days, in fact covered more then one page. Are you saying no moderator noticed this thread at all but in the same breath you found this post in hours? Crystal is a dirty whore was up for more then a week, again all moderators missed it.

If you wouldve took the time to even read through the first few pages, you'd see that it's a joke amongst friends. Theres no reason why it shouldn't be there.

but all that needs to be said has been said about that thread already.

If you wouldve took the time to even read through the first few pages, you'd see that it's a joke amongst friends. Theres no reason why it shouldn't be there.

but all that needs to be said has been said about that thread already.
notice it was the words ORAL SEX that got the attention of someone...;) :lol:

I see you guys visited Chit Chat. I told you once before it's a whole different world. :lol:

I see you guys visited Chit Chat. I told you once before it's a whole different world. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

notice it was the words ORAL SEX that got the attention of someone...;) :lol:

Would you be offended if I called you a whore, because if they can be young and silly in the chat room, maybe I can be old and silly in the tv trading room?

Old and silly Harvey

OMG...that is the truth. I read one of those posts last week and it was sooooo old. I now know why I don't read those "jokes". Once was enough.

I'm sorry for not being as funny as they are in the chit chat room. Maybe I'll start a whore thread for a few laughs.

Harvey

I'm sorry for not being as funny as they are in the chit chat room. Maybe I'll start a whore thread for a few laughs.

Harvey
The silly threads are reserved for the Random Board, so I highly doubt a whore thread would last long anywhere else on this website. In fact, I'm sure of it.

Kind of strange that you're making such a big deal out of that thread since TJ is allowing you to post joke threads on the Trading board. I thought this board was for tape trading?

You pitched a fit when the owner of the site requested that your joke threads be consolidated into one thread. Crystal's thread is violating no rules. You're bending the rules every day Harvey.
Would you be offended if I called you a whore, because if they can be young and silly in the chat room, maybe I can be old and silly in the tv trading room?

Old and silly Harvey
You are either missing the obvious or pretending to miss it. Once again, Crystal is IN on the joke of that thread. Nobody is calling her a whore in the way that you're implying.

With that fact, all your posts about calling people whores (including your wife) do not support your "argument".

1. this is a dead horse = stop beating it

2. whether or not someone is "in on it" doesnt matter to me--- i mean can i post a thread about Harvey is an M***** F***** and as long as he is in on it, its ok?

i just think those kind of threads have no place, whether the people mind or not
and the board would be better without them

if people want to call each other whores, pick up the phone and do it :lol:

1. this is a dead horse = stop beating it
It's not a dead horse, unless I guess one of your friends has the last word. Harvey made the last couple of posts. Tell him it's a dead horse.

Anyone can post here Lamont. I don't answer to you. Got that?
2. whether or not someone is "in on it" doesnt matter to me--- i mean can i post a thread about Harvey is an M***** F***** and as long as he is in on it, its ok?
Only on the Random board. And that thread title might be a bit much, but I don't moderate that board. You can always check with the moderator though.
i just think those kind of threads have no place, whether the people mind or not and the board would be better without them
Think what you want. That thread is not violating any rules, so deal with it.
if people want to call each other whores, pick up the phone and do it :lol:
That's an option. So is posting a silly thread on the Random board.

I am glad I don't go to the chit chat area, seems to be a much younger crowd over there.

This is beating a dead horse. Crystal is IN on the joke and the thread is in the RANDOM section. Did you even read the thread? If you went to random and posted Harvey is an old mother bastard and he was ok with it, there is nothing wrong with it. What is it that you guys don't get? I swear you just complain to complain.

I am glad I don't go to the chit chat area, seems to be a much younger crowd over there.

Actually, it seems the much younger crowd is here because they don't know when to quit.

was intended to ANY of the people who posted, moderators or members, and i was NOT saying ANY 1 person should drop it, i think we all should drop it

who cares who gets the last word--- the point of my post was to clarify about bad traders and banned members and how it all worked out and if the 2 lists should overlap

the cussing was just an off comment that has been blown way out of proportion

i just think we have all said what we feel, and i think we are just repeating ourselves now

so if u all want to keep posting, of course u r free to do so, and i was NOT directing my words at you, janice or anyone at all
just pointing out that maybe its time to move on

how about going back to the first post and addressing the reason for the original topic

why are known scammers and thieves allowed to be members

forget the cussing and the whos a whore jokes etc

this is a serious topic

in times previous, a known scammer/thief was terminated

now they are allowed to remain, and spew their vial lies when ever they feel like it

this is why so many people are afraid to come forth and tell their truths about scammers/thieves, for fear of a payback, since the scumbuckets are still allowed to be here

so why?????????????????????????????????????

so as long as they are polite, and dont break rules, they can lie, steal, cheat, and scam

i for one would think those actions would somehow be against any communities codes of member conduct

yes the trade area is a small tail, on the large sitcoms dog. i have heard that many times

size of membership, number of posts, dont mean its open season on the integrity of the membership

i realize the trade board doesnt ahve those informative posts

like for example--jot down the number of the poster ahead of you, or any number of other jibberish like shes hot, i would do her, or the nets suck,

I am glad I don't go to the chit chat area, seems to be a much younger crowd over there.
Hey, I am 41 and proud of it. Difference is I have a sense of humor and no one should be intercepting what someone else perceives and understands to be an "in joke". Chit Chat isn't just young people. And even if it was, why are you so against young people? I fit there just fine. No problema. Get with it.:rolleyes: :lol:

A few people have brought up the same question loren.


So I request-
Privately, to my PM or my email

Can anyone who feels someone is around the board that shouldn't-
Email me/ PM me

Whom and Why.


People Im me all the time asking to be pu ton the GOOD trader list-
Who they traded with etc-

And I have added quite a few to the bad trader list lately- and a handful of user shave been suspended or banned in the last week.

So if anyone reading this, who has the time or opinion on it- can email me privately
I would like to address, who is on Sitocms that others feel shouldn't be.

Thank you

It's not so much young people that scottdvd meant I think. Moreover, I think they meant the type of people that go on the defensive the minute something is brought up. Yes, this tends to be a younger crowd but really it could be anyone. Janice made a big deal out of it, almost as if she felt personally attacked. In no way was anything that was said directed at any one person but that type sees it as a personal attack. I feel like that is how things get blown out a porportion a lot on here. One person makes a general statment and people assume they are talking about them. Unless we aren't going to ever do anything but haves/wants, this is gonna keep popping up.

Janice made a big deal out of it, almost as if she felt personally attacked.
What did I take personally? I responded to some posts, using the same tone as a couple of the regulars here. You must have missed their posts.

Sarcasm is a two-way street.

Anyone can post here Lamont. I don't answer to you. Got that?

Think what you want. That thread is not violating any rules, so deal with it.




Sorry, I don't see sarcasm. Just hostility.

Sorry, I don't see sarcasm. Just hostility.
You might want to consider re-reading what I was responding to, and a few of the other nasty jabs.

Lamont's post was aimed at me and others who were defending Crystal's thread.

Sorry, I don't see sarcasm. Just hostility.
The only hostility I see is from this board. If you don't like what's being said over in Chit Chat don't go there.

The only hostility I see is from this board. If you don't like what's being said over in Chit Chat don't go there.


Same can be said for you and Janice. And Janice, you just proved my point. No one specifically was pointed to. You just decided it was about you personally. And please, point to a nasty jab.

Sorry, I don't see sarcasm. Just hostility.


YOU GO GIRL !! :happyface


make us proud now !

Same can be said for you and Janice. And Janice, you just proved my point. No one specifically was pointed to. You just decided it was about you personally. And please, point to a nasty jab.
Read Lamont's thread (the one I was responding to), and it's clear as day that he was going against Crystal's thread, which is one of the major topics being discussed. If you can't see that, there's nothing I can say.

As for nasty jabs, I'm not going to start pointing fingers. Read this thread. Read other threads. I've never seen such a group of uptight, grouchy, nitpicking people. Not everyone, but to find nasty remarks, just look around. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Read Lamont's thread (the one I was responding to), and it's clear as day that he was going against Crystal's thread, which is one of the major topics being discussed. If you can't see that, there's nothing I can say.

As for nasty jabs, I'm not going to start pointing fingers. Read this thread. Read other threads. I've never seen such a group of uptight, grouchy, nitpicking people. Not everyone, but to find nasty remarks, just look around. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Then why the heck are you in here if you hate us so much! Just leave! All Lamont was asking was why that thread was allowed when one that had ass in it was deleted. THAT'S ALL!! No one said you were bad people for having that thread. No one said you would be banned for it. It was just a question, one you have no insight into obviously.

Same can be said for you and Janice. And Janice, you just proved my point. No one specifically was pointed to. You just decided it was about you personally. And please, point to a nasty jab.
I rarely ever post here. People over here are just to uptight. Someone posted a question about the differences between the Trading Board and Chit Chat and some members told you how it was over there and some people here didn't like it or didn't think some of the things over there were appropriate. Thats how all this started.

YOU GO GIRL !! :happyface


make us proud now !

See, that's what happens. I keep my mouth shut for too long and then you can't stop me when it all comes out. I'm a fighter by nature but I try take those urges out on my boyfriend in fights so I'm pleasant when I'm in here :)

Wow!

I hate to be the voice of reason but seriously. I think the fact that sarcasm and wit do not always translate into emails and posts is being proved 10 fold.

I can't remember the last time I have seen Mods and members fighting over what seems to me to be semantics.

Tried and true method of Management....

If someones says something (or writes) that illicits an emotional response... sit back and take some time before responding (I know easier said than done). Often you may find that you can see how things may have been taken out of context.

This thread is really bordering on personal attacks I think everyone needs to sit back and breathe.


Cheers
Jay:crazy:


P.S. Sorry To be a wet blanket Joker but there are better people to beat up on. We do not need to kill ourselves.

Then why the heck are you in here if you hate us so much! Just leave! All Lamont was asking was why that thread was allowed when one that had ass in it was deleted. THAT'S ALL!! No one said you were bad people for having that thread. No one said you would be banned for it. It was just a question, one you have no insight into obviously.
Just leave? :lol:

Not only do you folks want your own little community here, you want to throw other members out. :crazy:

And I never said I hated anybody.

I weighed in because my name and Chit Chat were being discussed. You know, free speech and all.

The conversation then took a detour down Insanity Lane, with people getting all riled up because of a thread on the Random board. Too much.

Sorry To be a wet blanket Joker but there are better people to beat up on. We do not need to kill ourselves.
I hate to be the voice of reason
That's evident.

That's evident.

What amazes me about you Janice, is almost all of your 16,000 posts are in the chit chat or the sub forums you run. Little in the trading foreum, so up here is not your expertise bt as soon as you felt there was a disturbance you felt it was your duty to run up here and squelch it. Did you ever think you incited a a larger fire and did nothing to douse the flames. We have a good moderator, Kim to run the ship, so maybe next time you assist in the boiler room. Am I sarcastic? You bet I am but you played the first card, running here and telling us the name of the game. Talk to me as a adult, not down to me as one of your kids.

Everyone is wrong but you. Guess it's easier to believe that.

Harvey

What amazes me about you Janice, is almost all of your 16,000 posts are in the chit chat or the sub forums you run. Little in the trading foreum, so up here is not your expertise bt as soon as you felt there was a disturbance you felt it was your duty to run up here and squelch it. Did you ever think you incited a a larger fire and did nothing to douse the flames. We have a good moderator, Kim to run the ship, so maybe next time you assist in the boiler room. Am I sarcastic? You bet I am but you played the first card, running here and telling us the name of the game. Talk to me as a adult, not down to me as one of your kids.

Everyone is wrong but you. Guess it's easier to believe that.

Harvey

Janice goes to a ton of other boards than Chit Chat, I always see her at the Sanford and Son board and a ton of others.

And not everyone there is under 20 either, there is a wide variety of ages.

What amazes me about you Janice, is almost all of your 16,000 posts are in the chit chat or the sub forums you run. Little in the trading foreum, so up here is not your expertise bt as soon as you felt there was a disturbance you felt it was your duty to run up here and squelch it. Did you ever think you incited a a larger fire and did nothing to douse the flames. We have a good moderator, Kim to run the ship, so maybe next time you assist in the boiler room. Am I sarcastic? You bet I am but you played the first card, running here and telling us the name of the game. Talk to me as a adult, not down to me as one of your kids.

Everyone is wrong but you. Guess it's easier to believe that.

Harvey
What amazes me Harvey is that you've never been outside of the Trading Post, yet you want to give lectures about a joke thread that the young members have going (Pirate Whore thread) on Chit Chat.

As I stated, I posted in this thread because my name was brought up and Chit Chat was being discussed. I wasn't trying to squelch or moderate anything. I can post anywhere, anytime on this site.

I don't have to explain to anyone why I posted here anyway. Maybe I was asked to weigh in, but I'll never tell.

You people kill me. You took a shot at robyrob because he posted here too, and someone else just told me to leave. :lol:

I don't care if you're sarcastic. You remind me a lot of that lovable little
curmudgeon, Andy Rooney.

What amazes me Harvey is that you've never been outside of the Trading Post, yet you want to give lectures about a joke thread that the young members have going (Pirate Whore thread) on Chit Chat.

As I stated, I posted in this thread because my name was brought up and Chit Chat was being discussed. I wasn't trying to squelch or moderate anything. I can post anywhere, anytime on this site.

I don't have to explain to anyone why I posted here anyway. Maybe I was asked to weigh in, but I'll never tell.

You people kill me. You took a shot at robyrob because he posted here too, and someone else just told me to leave. :lol:

I don't care if you're sarcastic. You remind me a lot of that lovable little
curmudgeon, Andy Rooney.

Deep down I think your crazy about me. Can I go to the chit chat room and spread rumours about us.?

Harvey

Deep down I think your crazy about me. Can I go to the chit chat room and spread rumours about us.?

Harvey
Oh no, my secret's out. :kiss:

Deep down I think your crazy about me. Can I go to the chit chat room and spread rumours about us.?

Harvey

I think the point that Harvey just made so eloquently was that these areas are two completely different beasts. We're used to the way members that only come in here talk. You're used to the areas you go to. While I don't think anyone should say what you can put in your area (within the rules that is), the ONLY reason your area was brought up was because of a MUCH tamer post in here that was deleted and some members wanted to know why when in comparison to the norm over there, it was much more PG. That's all.

I only said leave because you seem to have so much against people that only come to this forumn. If you don't like what we talk about, don't come in here was my point. I don't go in chit chat because I think it is all mindless drivel.

Oh no, my secret's out. :kiss:

Everyday is a learning day. I hope all you guys have been taught something. First play hardass, be tough, maybe a mite bit strong. and then be sweet, and loveable. The women will just fall over themselves to be your sweetie. Look how Janice fell apart.

I need serious help.

Harvey who just has to make a appointment with a shrink.

Everyday is a learning day. I hope all you guys have been taught something. First play hardass, be tough, maybe a mite bit strong. and then be sweet, and loveable. The women will just fall over themselves to be your sweetie. Look how Janice fell apart.

I need serious help.

Harvey who just has to make a appointment with a shrink.


I think she's just kissing your :mooner:

I think she's just kissing your :mooner:

Jealousy rears it's ugly head. I'm making a move, step aside Joker

Harvey who has the situation under control

Janice goes to a ton of other boards than Chit Chat, I always see her at the Sanford and Son board and a ton of others.

And not everyone there is under 20 either, there is a wide variety of ages.
Thank you. Like I said...don't assume all people in chit/chat are kids. However, I have seen more maturity by the "kids" of SO than a lot of the so-called adults who get all riled up abt something that wasn't even directed at them and was done in jest.

does anyone besides me notice how FARRRRRR off topic this has gotten?

to Janice- i PMd u and i stated it, i had NO HOSTILITY to you at all, i assure u---- I was simply stating that i did not think it was appropriate to have a post calling someone a whore--- EVEN IF IT WAS AN INSIDE JOKE--- b/c to be honest, people who are NOT in on it, see that title and assume the board has no standards and no rules and it sends the wrong message-- BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE with you maam, and i was not directing anything towards u or being grumpy, i promise

will this thread ever in? or will it just go on and on and on, i mean-- i dont see anything new here, just reruns

does anyone besides me notice how FARRRRRR off topic this has gotten?

to Janice- i PMd u and i stated it, i had NO HOSTILITY to you at all, i assure u---- I was simply stating that i did not think it was appropriate to have a post calling someone a whore--- EVEN IF IT WAS AN INSIDE JOKE--- b/c to be honest, people who are NOT in on it, see that title and assume the board has no standards and no rules and it sends the wrong message-- BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE with you maam, and i was not directing anything towards u or being grumpy, i promise

will this thread ever in? or will it just go on and on and on, i mean-- i dont see anything new here, just reruns
I see your point Lamont. On the surface the title looks bad. In the beginning I had an issue with the "you is racist" avatar and the other one. Especially when I aired my feelings on the board and I had those smilies directed at me. I didn't get it. I had PM'd TJ abt it and when he clarified it to me, it opened my eyes that there is a lot more to this board than just sitcoms. There are alot of inside jokes on this board. For anyone who feels offended or anything else, it's just easier to PM a mod or TJ and you will get your answer without inviting all this hostility. This thread started out as a trader issue and made an ugly turn. But I see your point and just wanted to give you my two cents on it.:wave:

Group Hug

:hug: :bighug: :hug:

Group Hug

:hug: :bighug: :hug:

Can I stand next to Joker?

Harvey

Lamont,

Dude, you started the thread in hopes of getting people riled up.
What did you think was gonna happen?

You think we were gonna sit down, have an expresso and talk this out rationally?

And then you come back as the voice of reason? How many time are you gonna do that?

C'mon man !


Either you're a full out hell raiser (i.e. TERROR) or you're not.

Please don't start things and then be apologetic about it.


We'z Still boyz tho - no hard feelings.

well i did want to stir the pot a little
BUTTTTT it got a bit on the STUPID side in my eyes

:lol:

I'll definately get in on the hug part.:hug:

I'm close to an anxiety attack otherwise (chuckle)
:hug:
That's what I'll run in my nxt contest-
Free Hug coupons from Savage---

Anyone in?

C'mon Joker you say your a rebel but deep down--admit you wanna :bighug: hug..

I'll definately get in on the hug part.:hug:

I'm close to an anxiety attack otherwise (chuckle)
:hug:
That's what I'll run in my nxt contest-
Free Hug coupons from Savage---

Anyone in?

C'mon Joker you say your a rebel but deep down--admit you wanna :bighug: hug..

Does a squeeze go with the hug?,If so I'm in. Come on Joker, me, you and Savage in a tight embrace, without Lamont of course.

Harvey who heard that Savage is like charmin.

I'll definately get in on the hug part.:hug:

I'm close to an anxiety attack otherwise (chuckle)
:hug:
That's what I'll run in my nxt contest-
Free Hug coupons from Savage---

Anyone in?

C'mon Joker you say your a rebel but deep down--admit you wanna :bighug: hug..

Very smooth thread transition... all warm and fuzzy now.. maybe lock it up before the cold and pricklies return.