the True Star of the Jeffersons because she was the most real out of all the characters. I disagree with that, a co-star yes, but we all know who was the star.

Correct. We all know that George was the star, but I still loved Florence! She and George had some of the best banter I have ever seen on a TV show. I hate that Marla actually tried to leave the show at one point. Lucky for us the show she tried flopped and she returned to The Jeffersons.

Correct. We all know that George was the star, but I still loved Florence! She and George had some of the best banter I have ever seen on a TV show. I hate that Marla actually tried to leave the show at one point. Lucky for us the show she tried flopped and she returned to The Jeffersons.



It was said that the Florence character was the true succesful character because she was totally herself. She didn' take any stuff off her employers and that was more sophisticated than any of the other characters.

the True Star of the Jeffersons because she was the most real out of all the characters. I disagree with that, a co-star yes, but we all know who was the star.
"most real"????? in what way??? if a maid acted any way like Florence did, her ass wouldn't work as a maid ANYWHERE!!!! Her character was funny, crazy and a riot. But as a character. No way could she get away with that stuff in the real world. So, how could they say she was more real?

"most real"????? in what way??? if a maid acted any way like Florence did, her ass wouldn't work as a maid ANYWHERE!!!! Her character was funny, crazy and a riot. But as a character. No way could she get away with that stuff in the real world. So, how could they say she was more real?


It was said that Florence was the reality behind the Laughter on the Jeffersons. Meaning that her character was a reminder that all blacks didn't live in a high-rise dream world of mink and that oppressed people needed pride in their roots to survive.

It was said that Florence was the reality behind the Laughter on the Jeffersons. Meaning that her character was a reminder that all blacks didn't live in a high-rise dream world of mink and that oppressed people needed pride in their roots to survive.
So, they would rather a show of black people be like Good Times. Show them poor, struggling and dealing with serious issues (in a humorous fashion) rather than have a show that was supposed to be funny (which it was) make fun of honkeys (for once) and just make US (the audience) forget abt the real world for once?:rolleyes:

So, they would rather a show of black people be like Good Times. Show them poor, struggling and dealing with serious issues (in a humorous fashion) rather than have a show that was supposed to be funny (which it was) make fun of honkeys (for once) and just make US (the audience) forget abt the real world for once?:rolleyes:


It was also mentioned that Florence reflected a long and dignified tradition of the servant who is often wiser than her employer-lol

"most real"????? in what way??? if a maid acted any way like Florence did, her ass wouldn't work as a maid ANYWHERE!!!! Her character was funny, crazy and a riot. But as a character. No way could she get away with that stuff in the real world. So, how could they say she was more real?
True! No one could get away with the things she said unless their employers were VERY TOLERANT and could take a joke! She was soooo hilarious though. Maybe they kept her around because they felt "guilty" for being so well off and the reality of Florence's life kept them in check, lol.
;)

I agree with Irene, Florence wasn't really real. She was out there no doubt. I swear, I think some people resented that the Jeffersons was a show about successful black people. :rolleyes:

I agree with Irene, Florence wasn't really real. She was out there no doubt. I swear, I think some people resented that the Jeffersons was a show about successful black people. :rolleyes:


Yeah may be some truth that but I think it could be because there was always reminder about how well the Jeffersons were doing financially

Also remember that Florence and the Jeffersons had a friendship as well as an employment relationship. That may be why she could say the things she did.

Also remember that Florence and the Jeffersons had a friendship as well as an employment relationship. That may be why she could say the things she did.


Yeah George did admit that he and Weezy only let Florence stay because they loved her

the True Star of the Jeffersons because she was the most real out of all the characters. I disagree with that, a co-star yes, but we all know who was the star.
his/her opinion is just that, their opinion...doesn't make it a fact.

his/her opinion is just that,
their opinion...doesn't make it a fact.


Why are u responding to an old post? I made that statement weeks ago

Why are u responding to an old post? I made that statement weeks ago
This is my second post on this thread. Did you notice the other? besides, it was bumped up from two months ago, so what difference does it make when I respond?:crazy:

This is my second post on this thread. Did you notice the other? besides, it was bumped up from two months ago, so what difference does it make when I respond?:crazy:


But I didn't understand your statement anyway because I never said what the novelist said was fact

But I didn't understand your statement anyway because I never said what the novelist said was fact
your post stated the novelist said that Florence was MORE REAL and the star of the show. that is their opinion...doesn't make it a fact.

your post stated the novelist said that Florence was MORE REAL and the star of the show. that is their opinion...doesn't make it a fact.


I don't know what hell you are talking about

This is my second post on this thread. Did you notice the other? besides, it was bumped up from two months ago, so what difference does it make when I respond?:crazy:



What I'm saying is shouldn't you have said what you said today on yourvery first reply to this thread? It just made no sense that you previous posts had nothing to do with the novelist opinion not being fact and then u al of a sudden bust out of nowhere with IT"S NOT FACT. Confused

What I'm saying is shouldn't you have said what you said today on yourvery first reply to this thread? It just made no sense that you previous posts had nothing to do with the novelist opinion not being fact and then u al of a sudden bust out of nowhere with IT"S NOT FACT. Confused
it's my second reply...and I was ending my thoughts on this topic that overall it doesn't matter what the novelist says...it's their opinion. I never got to post that response because this thread eventually died out and somehow was revived again, which reminded me of what I had wanted to say to end MY DISCUSSION abt this thread. What the hell is wrong with that???:crazy:

it's my second reply...and I was ending my thoughts on this topic that overall it doesn't matter what the novelist says...it's their opinion. I never got to post that response because this thread eventually died out and somehow was revived again, which reminded me of what I had wanted to say to end MY DISCUSSION abt this thread. What the hell is wrong with that???:crazy:


Because it seemed like you were attacking me for posting what someone said about the show which i did not understand why

Because it seemed like you were attacking me for posting what someone said about the show which i did not understand why
Never assume...LOL why didn't you just say that the first time instead of beating around the bush? Just say what you mean...LOL

Also remember that Florence and the Jeffersons had a friendship as well as an employment relationship. That may be why she could say the things she did.

I agree with this totally, in what Selena states about the overall relationship that existed between the Jeffersons & Florence Johnston. :cool: :)
It was a working relationship as well as an understanding friendship. Basically speaking, it was unique and quite humorous indeed!
I know that I sure enjoyed it when Florence kept Mr. J in FULL CHECK...LOL :lol: :wave:

I agree with this totally, in what Selena states about the overall relationship that existed between the Jeffersons & Florence Johnston. :cool: :)
It was a working relationship as well as an understanding friendship. Basically speaking, it was unique and quite humorous indeed!
I know that I sure enjoyed it when Florence kept Mr. J in FULL CHECK...LOL :lol: :wave:



Yeah their relationship changed when she stopped George from buying those damaged vans in season 3

Yeah their relationship changed when she stopped George from buying those damaged vans in season 3

That episode was definitely one of my all-time favorites, Solomon...:lol: :lol: :lol:
I mean, Florence sure was right on the money when she "listened in" on that slick dude's phone call, and she relayed aloud (with George present) that "those vans couldn't SWIM"...LMAO :lol: :cool: :happyface

Way too funny!! :lol:
(But I'm NOT laughing irritably like that slickster dude did, who tried to push off the vans that had "muddy ashtrays") :cool: :p

That episode was definitely one of my all-time favorites, Solomon...:lol: :lol: :lol:
I mean, Florence sure was right on the money when she "listened in" on that slick dude's phone call, and she relayed aloud (with George present) that "those vans couldn't SWIM"...LMAO :lol: :cool: :happyface

Way too funny!! :lol:
(But I'm NOT laughing irritably like that slickster dude did, who tried to push off the vans that had "muddy ashtrays") :cool: :p



The real funny thing about that episode was that Florence was desperate and had to figure out a way to stay with the Jeffersons which is why she was listening on the phone conversation because she would have been jobless and homeless.

The real funny thing about that episode was that Florence was desperate and had to figure out a way to stay with the Jeffersons which is why she was listening on the phone conversation because she would have been jobless and homeless.

Oh yeah, that's RIGHT! George DID fire Florence (even though he scooted out the damn door when he did it), and then she thought that he was joking. Weezy then reiterated to her that, "He wasn't joking, Florence..." :( :)

And then, the next time we see them in the following scene, George comes back to the apartment with the con artist dude who tries to slip him those "non-swimming vans", and then out comes Florence with a bottle of bubbly and her glass, saying that she's "celebrating her last day", etc.

(Almost as funny as when Florence played the Aunt Jemima character, when she taught GJ a huge lesson...LMAO :lol: :lol: :happyface )
:cool: ;) :lol:

Oh yeah, that's RIGHT! George DID fire Florence (even though he scooted out the damn door when he did it), and then she thought that he was joking. Weezy then reiterated to her that, "He wasn't joking, Florence..." :( :)

And then, the next time we see them in the following scene, George comes back to the apartment with the con artist dude who tries to slip him those "non-swimming vans", and then out comes Florence with a bottle of bubbly and her glass, saying that she's "celebrating her last day", etc.

(Almost as funny as when Florence played the Aunt Jemima character, when she taught GJ a huge lesson...LMAO :lol: :lol: :happyface )
:cool: ;) :lol:

He was all set to fire her in another episode: Florence's Cousin in year 7 when she was moonlighting as a waitress to repay $1,000 she'd borrowed from him, she fell asleep vacuuming, burnt dinner and messed up his clothing. Louise had to take him to the diner where she was doing a (terrible) job to have Florence explain everything. In the one where she was going to kill herself George tells her he was all set to fire her a long time ago, but they love her.

What strikes me most about Florence is how different she was in season 1 from the rest of the series. It's like watching 2 completely different characters.

He was all set to fire her in another episode: Florence's Cousin in year 7 when she was moonlighting as a waitress to repay $1,000 she'd borrowed from him, she fell asleep vacuuming, burnt dinner and messed up his clothing. Louise had to take him to the diner where she was doing a (terrible) job to have Florence explain everything. In the one where she was going to kill herself George tells her he was all set to fire her a long time ago, but they love her.

What strikes me most about Florence is how different she was in season 1 from the rest of the series. It's like watching 2 completely different characters.

You have to remember that Florence wasn't initially supposed to be a regular only an interviewee if I remember correctly from an article. Florence was such a hit, they offered her a role. It happens often on with series, look at Steve Urkel on Family Matters.

You have to remember that Florence wasn't initially supposed to be a regular only an interviewee if I remember correctly from an article. Florence was such a hit, they offered her a role. It happens often on with series, look at Steve Urkel on Family Matters.I know. She was a whole lot better than the other maid though. There is a reference to that other maid Diane in another episode- the one where the reporter comes to dinner. Louise says Diane isn't available and hires Florence at double time instead. This was Florence's 3rd appearance and by then her overeagerness was wearing off. I don't remember her behavior in the Dinner For Harry show at the start of year 2, but in other shows that year her pretensions of being a hardworking, courteous employee were gone.

I know. She was a whole lot better than the other maid though. There is a reference to that other maid Diane in another episode- the one where the reporter comes to dinner. Louise says Diane isn't available and hires Florence at double time instead. This was Florence's 3rd appearance and by then her overeagerness was wearing off. I don't remember her behavior in the Dinner For Harry show at the start of year 2, but in other shows that year her pretensions of being a hardworking, courteous employee were gone.



I like when Florence saw George in the Tux and said-"HONEY HUSH" lol She said that 2 Times and I can't remember the second time she said it