Poster being investigated for multiple user accounts.

*Edited while under investigation*


Funniest post I've seen all week :lol: :lol:

Good thing it didn't get buried under all that clutter


It would of had more of an impact if you used your REAL name - BUT STILL FUNNY! (maybe you're a banned ex-member)

Its not me as I dont feel that strong about Loren in any way. This is all funny in my opinion.


Funniest post I've seen all week :lol: :lol:

Good thing it didn't get buried under all that clutter


It would of had more of an impact if you used your REAL name - BUT STILL FUNNY! (maybe you're a banned ex-member)

A member since March 9th and THIS is your first post. Wow perhaps you should start here by learning to pick your battles. I have never traded with Loren and certainly do not always agree with him but if you look back you can see he has tried to help many traders.

Sometimes the advice may come off blunt and perhaps because Loren has been around so long that he has seen it many times. Not everyone agrees with everyone here but the advice can be valuable for new traders. I would hardly consider Loren a bully, if you don't like someones advice then move on to the next thread.

my 2 cents


Cheers
Jay:crazy:

*edited while being investigated*

signed--wussy who hides behind a fake name


come on is that the best you got

joker can do 100 times better than that before his morning coffee

i miss folks like dajazz, he would call you out and sign his name, in big letters

unreal, two months lurking and they come out for this

dont comment on the guy who posted about a lousy 4 disc trade that he never lost any discs on

ya go after someone who is trying to make a point , so that others will not end up with their name in lights for something like this one

I'm sure some people will agree with you & I'm sure some will not. But I'd have to say you're showing no class whatsoever by using a newly created fake name. If you're going to dog someone, do it with your REAL user name.

Loren,

Thanks for the honest and blunt posts. I know you understood my whole reason for posting and the trading game in general. While we have different policies on other issues, I think your statements in these regards are as usual right on the money. No shame in being blunt.

Tom

PS to the Joker, you and Loren have the best love/hate relationship I have ever seen, hope yall continue with the friendly jabs, it keeps it interesting, life would be boring if we all agreed all of the time.

I'd call you loren. but remember I don't kiss on a first date :-)

But seriously, this sounds like the "ignore them they will go away"
kinda thing.

You know I have to say Loren says exactly what he's thinking. I applaud him there. He doesnt pick favorites at all. Never met anyone like that online most just follow what the Majority says.

Loren,

Thanks for the honest and blunt posts. I know you understood my whole reason for posting and the trading game in general. While we have different policies on other issues, I think your statements in these regards are as usual right on the money. No shame in being blunt.

Tom

PS to the Joker, you and Loren have the best love/hate relationship I have ever seen, hope yall continue with the friendly jabs, it keeps it interesting, life would be boring if we all agreed all of the time.

Who is Joker? I havent been around in awhile

waahhhhhhhhhh

sob sob sob :(

Loren was mean to me, so i wont have the guts to make a post about it with my real name, ill just make a fake name (which is against the sitcoms boards rules and has allready been reported)
and then ill show him, how tough I am

:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

seriously people, loren can be brutally honest some times, BUT i also know that he tries to work most issues out behind the scenes and doesnt "go public" with complaints except as a last resort

whoever wrote that needs to get some Balls and use there real name, with real facts or just go away

i have my suspicions as to who wrote it, but i wont post them here, b/c i dont have proof

:crysoup: :yousuck: :goaway: :grady:

waahhhhhhhhhh

sob sob sob :(

Loren was mean to me, so i wont have the guts to make a post about it with my real name, ill just make a fake name (which is against the sitcoms boards rules and has allready been reported)
and then ill show him, how tough I am

:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

seriously people, loren can be brutally honest some times, BUT i also know that he tries to work most issues out behind the scenes and doesnt "go public" with complaints except as a last resort

whoever wrote that needs to get some Balls and use there real name, with real facts or just go away

i have my suspicions as to who wrote it, but i wont post them here, b/c i dont have proof

:crysoup: :yousuck: :goaway: :grady:

Why is balls with a capital B? Are we revisiting the windy city of Chicago again?

No Name Harv.

Capital B must mean big balls

:gary: :tiphat: :mango

Who is Joker? I havent been around in awhile


He's the cooler, out-of-state cousin of one of the kids in the schoolyard who comes to visit from time to time and actually STANDS up to the bully. He's the only kid the bully can't intimidate or chase away.

The Principal and Vice-Principal don't like him very much but the Joker doesn't mind - He says & does what he likes, when he wants, to who he wants.

(Sorry I had to go 3rd person on you, but I had to EDUCATE)

Joker :cool:

Joker u kill me

well, everyone in the playground doesnt always get a long, and that is normal
and Joker is NEVER EVER afraid to speak his mind (even if it means he has to go to detention for a week)

BUT what i dont like is the nerdy weird kid who lurks in the corner and wont speak up or stand up for himself or what he believes in

BUT they want to stir up crap from the shadows

i mean, if you have a problem with someone grow a pair and say so, but to set up a fake name and do it that way is pretty wimpy in my book

PS for the record this person broke 2 of the top rules
posted at the top of the main page

4. Message Policy: No personal attacks

9. No multiple usernames

i hope someone thinks to go to the REPORT POST icon at the bottom of the persons name and report the person

Shouldnt the mods be able to see what IP they logged under? Should work unless they are still dialup.

PS for the record this person broke 2 of the top rules
posted at the top of the main page

4. Message Policy: No personal attacks

9. No multiple usernames

i hope someone thinks to go to the REPORT POST icon at the bottom of the persons name and report the person

I find it hard to believe a "First time poster"
Has issues with a long term trader.

Therefore I am investigating the IP connected to this user, for multiple user names.

As well I disagree with much of the reason behind the thread.
Yes messiah to answer your question, we can, and do log IPS.
And this one certianly has.
While you have the right to complain or as the forums opinion.
breaking rules to do so, isn't something that goes over well with me.
And the poster has been emailed and told specifically that.
As well-
If you are unhappy with a trade, and want to post, we have a traders FEEDBACK area for that.
And posts should be factual and logically stated.
Simply saying someone is a "bully" is more a personal attack, then a statement of trading history.


If you as a trader or forum contirbutor have a problem with another user, there are many ways to attempt to resolve the issue, as well as heighten awareness or even ask for support or opinions.
Snagging a new user name to vent, seems a bit cowardly-
and also follows closely the "personal attacks rule" we have for that very reason.

The original post has been removed
And the poster has been contacted
As well the IP will be compared to other accounts, and should a multiple account be found consequences might follow-


In the future, should you have an issue with another user.
Of course we at Sitcoms can not be everywhere at every moment, and that is why we welcome emails or private messages to try to help you resolve issues.
But very few things can be resolved, if you can not even start with admitting who are you.


SavageAmusement

Savage,

you're sucking all the fun out of this board - we need a little controversy to liven things up.

The Joker can't survive on Harvey jokes & Idol contests alone.

We need a good villain around here every once in awhile. Just take a look at which threads have the most views. For example, the Sheri thread has over 1700 views in less than a week. Nothing even comes close to that this past week. Is there even one thread with 200 views??? - I don't think there is. - I wonder WHY? Guess which thread is #2. Coincidence? I don't think so !!

So even though some people like "reporting posts" to you all the time ... it's obvious these same people can't get enough of the drama either, or else they wouldn't be clicking on that thread all the time.

Don't get me wrong, I know your job as moderator is a tough one - but try to loosen up a little, and let a few more things go.


tiptop245, I thought you had potential.
Too bad you turned out to be a "wuss" like Loren said - I would have liked to see your followup posts.

As long as there are no personal attacks (and I mean real personal attacks not a little name calling) what harm can this really do?


Help Bring back the laughter !
:clown:

Savage,

you're sucking all the fun out of this board - we need a little controversy to liven things up.

The Joker can't survive on Harvey jokes & Idol contests alone.

We need a good villain around here every once in awhile. Just take a look at which threads have the most views. For example, the Sheri thread has over 1700 views in less than a week. Nothing even comes close to that this past week. Is there even one thread with 200 views??? - I don't think there is. - I wonder WHY? Guess which thread is #2. Coincidence? I don't think so !!

So even though some people like "reporting posts" to you all the time ... it's obvious these same people can't get enough of the drama either, or else they wouldn't be clicking on that thread all the time.

Don't get me wrong, I know your job as moderator is a tough one - but try to loosen up a little, and let a few more things go.


tiptop245, I thought you had potential.
Too bad you turned out to be a "wuss" like Loren said - I would have liked to see your followup posts.

As long as there are no personal attacks (and I mean real personal attacks not a little name calling) what harm can this really do?


Help Bring back the laughter !
:clown:

I know you miss my jokes. The first thing I do in the morning, maybe it's the second, prostate thing, is to say "how can I make Joker laugh today". I gave serious thought to blowing up Loren's house, which I'm sure would amuse Joker but it is a federal rap, so I just gotta think of something else. I got it. I'll tell Loren I have a 9.8 quality 20 disk set of Batman, that's better then Joker's. Then I'll trade him and send instead 20 disks of the smurfs.

Harvey-who has a plan

I know you miss my jokes. The first thing I do in the morning, maybe it's the second, prostate thing, is to say "how can I make Joker laugh today". I gave serious thought to blowing up Loren's house, which I'm sure would amuse Joker but it is a federal rap, so I just gotta think of something else. I got it. I'll tell Loren I have a 9.8 quality 20 disk set of Batman, that's better then Joker's. Then I'll trade him and send instead 20 disks of the smurfs.

Harvey-who has a plan


Naaah, taking shots at Loren is no fun anymore. He's trying hard to change his image - I'll cut him some slack & leave him alone.

Harv, I need you to find me a new arch enemy.


Joker

Naaah, taking shots at Loren is no fun anymore. He's trying hard to change his image - I'll cut him some slack & leave him alone.

Harv, I need you to find me a new arch enemy.


Joker

From what I understand, Savage has a real slinky, tight, batgirl outfit. What does the Joker think?

Harvey-who would love to swing with Batgirl.

Don't get me wrong, I know your job as moderator is a tough one - but try to loosen up a little, and let a few more things go.


For all the things that savage steps up to the plate and puts in it's place.
The silly infighting and at times the shear belligerence (look it up if you don't know what it means) that some members of this community show and believe
is "fun". Savage has and still does an excellent job.

During the Sheri stuff. While everyone was having they're fun I know that
Savage was getting e-mails from everyone to the tune of a couple hundred
a day. And some of them were petty, stupid and ignorant. Most of them
weren't fun for her at all. She ended up getting a headache.

Now for all the "fun" that people see on the board. The moderators do a lot of things behind the scenes to keep that fun going. Answering e-mails, questions, and keeping an eye so that peoples "fun" doesn't get out of hand.

As far as the contest goes. You're right, the board cannot live by contests alone. but then lets go through that phase as well. Savage came up with a creative contest, she offered her own time, her own prizes and her own
money to continue the contest. And she got entries, but how many people
actually took the time and told her in an e-mail, or anything thank you.

This board doesn't need an arch villian. That's for comic books and for
teenage wastelands. What the board needs is just to get back to what it's
there for. Trading and at times, a little humor. I gave up Drama classes
in High School and worrying about who was kissing who behind the bookshelves in 9th grade.

And for the record, I've seen the slinky batgirl outfit. It's very nice
and slinky.

*scratching head*



It seems to me this board is designed to set up trades.
As a function for introducing people in a way, expressly to exchange lists and exchange media.
It isn't a social hall. It isn't a YMCA meeting.
We don't bring brownies and cool aid, and make arts and crafts.
We trade.
Your list, my list- what I am looking for, what I am building and so on.
Is what this forum was designed for.
And this forum is only ONE of many Todd has set up throughout.
There is a chit chat section and so forth for other areas that were deisgned to be more "loose" and more fun.

Now don't get me wrong- I realized, not only as a moderator here, but a trader--that we DO socialize- and we DO chit chat here.
Which is why, there are jokes- and why you will noticed I don't send every off topic thread elsewhere.
The compromise of Harvey's jokes is one compromise of many that this particular forum takes.
And his jokes have been here every day, and each weekend I gather them and toss them into a combined thread- so that the users here in this particualr forum don't have to go elsewhere.
But at the same time, to keep them from cluttering the board as was pointed out by the owner -hence a compromise that takes ME time and effort.

And ironically you are asking me to lighten up, for arguments?
For Enquirer type He said She said, arguments?

I do realize that controversy gets "hits"
and that the threads most read are the bantering and arguing.
But my attempt was to keep things peaceful.
And by removing them, I remove arguments ahead of time, of people not getting their items, and getting taken for a ride- and being taken advantage of.

And I am doing that in part by doing a good job-
and in part by giving more of my time, energy and money then most do for any other extra-curricular activity.

I guess it's time for the "silent majority" to step forward in support of this board and, more importantly, in support of the moderators who give up their own free time to make this an enjoyable and peaceful place to visit!

I am relatively new to sitcoms online. I have been going through some tough times in my personal life and visiting this board has help divert me from some of those things. I really enjoy trading and chatting with the very nice folks here (and Kim is one of the best!). But it really makes me sad to read some of the hurtful things that get posted. Over the years, I have found that it is very important to take care what you write and say, because it is nearly impossible to take back and it leaves a lasting impression.

I hope and pray that Savage doesn't give up on us and that she get lots of supportive responses to her well-written and heartfelt message today.

Thank you Kim!
:bighug:

For all the things that savage steps up to the plate and puts in it's place.
The silly infighting and at times the shear belligerence (look it up if you don't know what it means) that some members of this community show and believe
is "fun". Savage has and still does an excellent job.

During the Sheri stuff. While everyone was having they're fun I know that
Savage was getting e-mails from everyone to the tune of a couple hundred
a day. And some of them were petty, stupid and ignorant. Most of them
weren't fun for her at all. She ended up getting a headache.

Now for all the "fun" that people see on the board. The moderators do a lot of things behind the scenes to keep that fun going. Answering e-mails, questions, and keeping an eye so that peoples "fun" doesn't get out of hand.

As far as the contest goes. You're right, the board cannot live by contests alone. but then lets go through that phase as well. Savage came up with a creative contest, she offered her own time, her own prizes and her own
money to continue the contest. And she got entries, but how many people
actually took the time and told her in an e-mail, or anything thank you.

This board doesn't need an arch villian. That's for comic books and for
teenage wastelands. What the board needs is just to get back to what it's
there for. Trading and at times, a little humor. I gave up Drama classes
in High School and worrying about who was kissing who behind the bookshelves in 9th grade.

And for the record, I've seen the slinky batgirl outfit. It's very nice
and slinky.


First of all, go back to answering the phones or doing your nails or whatever good secretaries do. ......

I did not question Savage's character, she doesn't need you (or anyone else) to step in to her defense. As moderator here, she is viewed as Admin. and I was adressing facts on actual statistics that were before us.

The threads with the higher VIEW Counts are the ones where there was trouble brewing, often they were also the most entertaining to read. I was pointing out that they (ADMIN) overreact sometimes when dealing with these threads.

If somebody calls a trader a bully under a fake name, (which everyone quickly saw through and pointed it out in their follow up posts) there's no need to come down on the guy like he commited a federal crime.

What makes this place interesting are the little scraps we have from time to time. Are they childish? sure they are. but if you treat everything so seriously .......:rolleyes:

Joker

btw, Dragonbear if anybody wants a trade board like that I'll send them over to the board you run, the one that's in your signature.


p.s.

Stepping up and showing your support for Savage on this thread means nothing to me as my intention was not to question or criticize her work as a moderator in general I think she does a fine job. It was 1 specific topic ONLY.

I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, even the Joker.

who really enjoy all the fights and controversy
and to be honest, every once in a while i do enjoy seeing a Sue Maples scammer type get nailed to the wall by the board

BUT that is not why i come to the board, i come to trade

savage has a hard job and gets no thank yous and no support

this board is full of inappropriate posts and scammers and thiefs and i know it is a big job for her to police it for us

instead of being mad about something silly, we should be thanking her for the hours and stress she puts into this

who really enjoy all the fights and controversy
and to be honest, every once in a while i do enjoy seeing a Sue Maples scammer type get nailed to the wall by the board

BUT that is not why i come to the board, i come to trade

savage has a hard job and gets no thank yous and no support

this board is full of inappropriate posts and scammers and thiefs and i know it is a big job for her to police it for us

instead of being mad about something silly, we should be thanking her for the hours and stress she puts into this

I for one would sorely miss Savage if she stepped down. I have gotten to know her, having spoken to her on the phone, manny, many times and found her to be a caring thoughtful person. She really expends quite of bit of time, energy and financial resources to make the board run as smoothly as it does, with little if any in the way of praise, or a simple thank you. Some think the board will function with or without supervision. It just ain't gonna happen, and Kim deserves all the credit for making it run as well as it does.

Harvey

The Man, the Boy, and the Donkey


A Man and his son were once going with their Donkey to market.
As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them
and said: "You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?"

So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their
way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: "See
that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides."

So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself.
But they hadn't gone far when they passed two women, one of whom
said to the other: "Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little
son trudge along."

Well, the Man didn't know what to do, but at last he took his
Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to
the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them. The
Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said:
"Aren't you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor donkey
with you and your hulking son?"

The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They
thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied
the donkey's feet to it, and raised the pole and the donkey to
their shoulders. They went along amid the laughter of all who met
them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one
of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end
of the pole. In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and
his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.

"That will teach you," said an old man who had followed them:

"Please all, and you will please none."


Bottom line-
Whatever Action I take, there will never be a time that everyone is pleased.

Some like peace while others like drama

Some like to buy while others report such sellers

Some like lengthy explinations, others like a summary

Some like chocolate while others like vanilla.

Which is why I do the best I can. And make the choices that seem fit at the time, for reasons that aren't always outwardly known.

And for that, I risk being misunderstood, or being criticized

I dont need this thread to be turned into a Vote for Savage campaign
Joker is entitled to his opinion.

But then again, mabey we can argue about it a little longer and create some controversy.

JO-KER! JO-KER! JO-KER!

Ladies and Gentlemen: On today’s show we 3 headed midgets who have cheated on their spouses with the household pet.

Joker I will give you the fact that controversy sells otherwise shows like Springer would never have made it. That does not necessarily mean that we want it here on the board. It is not that long ago when TJ shut the whole board down because of controversy and flame wars.

Granted the controversial posts are getting more hits because it is that old “can’t pass a train wreck without stopping to look.” Eventually though the same controversy and flame wars gets boring and people will stop looking.

Savage did not even say that the culprit would be banned and the post was never removed. All she said was that it was under investigation and then you pipe in with “you are ruining the fun”, she had not done anything yet.

I agree as far as rules violations go it was on the small scale BUT no punishment was administered and yet you assumed and dumped on her. The administrators have the rules for a reason and if you start to let some slide then where do you draw the line?

Go start “Jokers Flame Wars” board, I would bet it would be popular for awhile (hell I would check it out) but eventually it would get boring and people would go looking for a little more substance. Minor insults and sarcastic banter can easily turn into full-blown flame wars.

The Mods here are easily the most active that I have seen on any forum and keep the site running well, if not for the level of moderation Sitcoms would be just like the others. I for 1 come here because Sitcoms is better than the others.

Cheers
Jay :crazy:

just to set the record straight

i never complained to any mod, or administrator about the tiptop post

i never asked to have it removed, altered, deleted,

i never asked to have the tiptop person , banned, investigated, or anything else

no im not putting pressure on savage or anyone else

so dont even go there, with these thoughts

if tiptop has something to say, bring it on

all i asked for on the post, is to step up and sign your name, when you got something to say

a snipe from under the grandstand, doesnt hold any water

stand up and say what you have to say, with your proper name on display

unless of course theres a reason why you choose to be tiptop, the mystery poster

I am going to make this simple. This is a trading board and I personnaly prefer only talk about trades. I have nothing against chit-chat but there are other boards designed for discussion. Just my half a cent

With regard to the competitions, I thanked savage as soon as she contacted me to say that I had won. Would I have still thanked her for holding the competition had I not won?...Probably not.

Not because I don't appreciate the fact that she does such things at her own expense, but because I, like so many on the board, take for granted the level of effort she puts into maintaining the standard of this place.

From now on, I'll be sure to show my gratitude for the work that she does.

I may be fairly new to sitcomsonline, but I know one thing for for sure, ain't none of us could take on her job and do it to the same standard :)



P.S. I think the chit-chat is great, makes everything less formal lol

1. whoever posted the playground bully post has no spine--- not enough guts to give any details or proof, just some disgruntled trader with no gonads, who wants to remain annonymous but still bad mouth someone else, that is simply--no class

and YES i would still think that no matter who they badmouthed, i would defend any trader who got that kind of BS treatment, loren, savage, joker, anyone -- b/c it is just cowardly

2. personally i like the trading post to be lively and interesting, even if it is off topic a little, i mean come on people, some of you take this crap wayyyy to seriously

3. blah blah blah

Part of the reason I looked into the scope of the poster of this thread- was for the obvious suspicious of timing.

Last week Loren posted a thread about a user, and then someone "first time posted"

To me that was suspicious.

The fact is also a first time poster, wouldn't have an issue with Loren off the bat.

I mean come on that takes at least a week right?

But, I do think I can be too serious at times about this hobby/job and I do think that there does need to be a bridge of fun/and levity.

The problem is it is hard to balance when controversy, can go to far.
Or when being casual, can become too lax.

I try to prevent problems for the obvious reasons-
But perhaps sometimes I am too protective. (shrug)

So I will weigh Jokers comments, with everyone else's and see if there is a way to do things as well, but perhaps less rigid.
I make no promises.

Even though I dont agree with the initial comment that was made- and I clearly argue that I suck the fun out of anything (hmph)
I do value everyones opinion, even those I dont 100% agree with, and I do try to take it into consideration.

So I do appreciate taking the time, of all the statements and comments made today- even if it is a mild complaint- feedback is still participation.
And participation is still what keeps a community growing and supporting itself.

I may moderate things but you are essentially what keeps this board going and growing-

we should make a "Gossip, bad mouthing, and rumors board" to accomodate those who just like to stir the fire

ha ha