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Ireneparalegal
04-04-2006, 05:10 PM
they would have a different show title than when it originally aired?
For example, when the show EMERGENCY first became syndicated the title of the show was EMERGENCY ONE. When Chips was syndicated it too had a different title. I can't remember it but it was CHiPs ______(something or another). and nooooo, it wasn't CHIPS AHOY...:lol: But this was done alot. It's not done anymore, but I am curious as to why.

tvfan0101
04-04-2006, 05:37 PM
I believe that was mostly done when a series that was still in production also went into syndication at the same time. So, while new episodes of Happy Days were airing on ABC, the series was in syndication under the name Happy Days Again. And Bonanza episodes were syndicated under the name The Ponderosa.

Although, I think The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams was syndicated as simply Grizzly Adams, and it started in syndication after the series was cancelled. So, the rule does not always stand! Also, CHiPs was syndicated under the name CHiPs Patrol.

Ireneparalegal
04-04-2006, 05:40 PM
I believe that was mostly done when a series that was still in production also went into syndication at the same time. So, while new episodes of Happy Days were airing on ABC, the series was in syndication under the name Happy Days Again. And Bonanza episodes were syndicated under the name The Ponderosa.

Although, I think The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams was syndicated as simply Grizzly Adams, and it started in syndication after the series was cancelled. So, the rule does not always stand! Also, CHiPs was syndicated under the name CHiPs Patrol.
Ah, yes Chips Patrol. that was it. That sounds logical. However, nowadays shows have new seasons and may be on the air in syndication...they don't do that. Was it just something that was done then, and not now?

tvfan0101
04-04-2006, 05:45 PM
Well, I suppose the networks (or whoever decided to create a syndication title) were worried that independent stations airing shows in syndication during primetime would confuse viewers looking for new episodes. So, the syndication title made it clear that new episodes were only on the network.

I am trying to think of a series from the 1980s or 1990s that had a special syndication title and I cannot think of one. That might have to do with the decline of independent stations due to FOX, The WB and UPN.

Ireneparalegal
04-04-2006, 05:51 PM
Well, I suppose the networks (or whoever decided to create a syndication title) were worried that independent stations airing shows in syndication during primetime would confuse viewers looking for new episodes. So, the syndication title made it clear that new episodes were only on the network.

I am trying to think of a series from the 1980s or 1990s that had a special syndication title and I cannot think of one. That might have to do with the decline of independent stations due to FOX, The WB and UPN.
Thanx for the info. It was something that had been bugging me for some time now.

tv star collector
04-04-2006, 06:48 PM
Some other examples of network shows with different syndication titles include:
ANDY OF MAYBERRY (THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW), THE McCOYS (THE REAL
McCOYS), PONDEROSA (BONANZA) and MATT DILLON (GUNSMOKE).

Adamantium
04-04-2006, 06:50 PM
I believe that "The Andy Griffith Show" was titled "Andy of Mayberry." And "The Phil Silvers Show" was titled "Sgt. Bilko." And "The Danny Thomas Show" was titled "Make Room for Daddy" in the show's first three seasons (out of eleven). However, in syndication, the entire series went by the title "Make Room for Daddy."

Adamantium
04-04-2006, 06:54 PM
Some other examples of network shows with different syndication titles include:
ANDY OF MAYBERRY (THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW)

You beat me to it. :)

Now I'm more confident that I stated that. lol

Mr. Television
04-04-2006, 07:02 PM
Real People was syndicated as More Real People and BJ And The Bear and Sheriff Lobo were syndicated together as The BJ/Lobo Show, both in the 1980's.

Ireneparalegal
04-04-2006, 07:07 PM
these tidbits are really interesting.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-04-2006, 07:12 PM
...in the early '50s, when MCA-TV (the most prolific producer of filmed syndicated & network TV shows at that time) decided to take advantage of its network produced series when they reached 39 episodes (one full season) or more, and sell those to local stations, while first-run episodes were still playing on the networks. So as not to confuse viewers with the same series title on TWO different stations (network and local), the repeats were given different titles. A few examples:

Ralph Bellamy's "MAN AGAINST CRIME" (on NBC and DuMONT) became "FOLLOW THAT MAN" in syndication after 1953;

"DRAGNET" (while on NBC) reappeared as "BADGE 714" and "CONFIDENTIAL REPORT" on local stations, beginning in 1954;

"THE MILLIONAIRE" (on CBS) had its first 39 episodes syndicated as "IF YOU HAD A MILLION" in 1956;

"BIG TOWN" appeared under FOUR different titles (primarily because of the different leads as "Steve Wilson" every season or so)- "CITY ASSIGNMENT",
"HEART OF THE CITY", "HEADLINE", and "BYLINE- STEVE WILSON". Another reason for this was because the rights to the "BIG TOWN" title were owned by its network sponsor, Lever Brothers.

Another example of the sponsor owning the rights to a series title was The Wander Comany, makers of "Ovaltine". They sponsored "CAPTAIN MIDNIGHT"
on radio (1940-'49) AND television (1954-'56). When Screen Gems, the TV arm of Columbia Pictures that produced the series, wanted to syndicate the show after 1957, they had to change the title to "JET JACKSON- FLYING COMMANDO" and alter the soundtrack in every episode where "Captain Midnight's" name was mentioned.

When CBS wanted to syndicate its network-produced series "THE LINEUP"
(1954-'60) in syndication after its first four seasons, they had to change the title, while the series was running on the network, to "SAN FRANCISCO BEAT", and continued to do so through the late '60s.

Another classic example was MCA-TV's "WAGON TRAIN". When ABC bought the series for daytime repeats in early 1963 (while the show was running on ABC's prime-time schedule), the title became "MAJOR ADAMS-TRAILMASTER" [the 1957-'60 episodes starring Ward Bond as "Seth Adams"] for those afternoon reruns ('63-'65), and eventually in syndication.

The first six seasons of "GUNSMOKE" (1955-'61) were retitled "MARSHAL DILLON" when CBS began repeating them on their prime-time schedule (on Tuesday nights) in the fall of 1961 while new hour-long episodes were seen on Saturday night. The "DILLON" series was parceled out to local stations after 1964.

In the mid-'70s, MCA-TV discovered they had a glut of hour-long shows that had to be syndicated as soon as possible. So, while they were still shown on the networks, "IRONSIDE" became "THE RAYMOND BURR SHOW"; "MARCUS WELBY, M.D." became "ROBERT YOUNG, FAMILY DOCTOR"; "EMERGENCY!"
played locally as "EMERGENCY ONE!"; "THE ROCKFORD FILES" as "JIM ROCKFORD, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR"...and so on.

Then, Paramount Television decided to market THEIR hot network series
in the late-'70s while the originals played on ABC. So "HAPPY DAYS" was seen locally as "HAPPY DAYS AGAIN", and "LAVERNE & SHIRLEY" became "LAVERNE & SHIRLEY & COMPANY".

What finally happened, was that 20 Century-Fox TV began syndicating "M*A*S*H" in the fall of 1979 on local stations...WITHOUT changing the series' title while new episodes appeared on CBS. Nobody seemed to mind (or notice) that the same show was on two different stations in the same market under the same title. And THAT'S when the practice of retitling series ended.....except for ONE more minor change:

When CBS rebroadcast the 1979-'80 episodes of "HAWAII FIVE-O" on its
"LATE NIGHT" line-up between 1984 and 1987, they presented those episodes- as "McGARRETT".

I thank you!

:)

TV Knowledge Fan
04-04-2006, 07:19 PM
When MCA-TV wanted to syndicate "B.J. AND THE BEAR" in the early '80s, they discovered there weren't enough episodes to "strip" the series five days a week (only two and a half seasons worth of episodes were produced), so they decided to add the episodes of "THE MISADVENTURES OF SHERIFF LOBO"
(LESS than two seasons) and repackage them as "THE B.J./LOBO SHOW". Forgot about THAT!

Mr. Television
04-04-2006, 07:25 PM
also the Bob Cummings Show was syndicated under the title Love That Bob which is still its most famous title. Also Private Secretary was syndicated as Susie. They are still the titles that you see if you ever can catch them in syndication.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-04-2006, 07:29 PM
CBS had to retitle their sitcoms that were still running at night for daytime repeats in the early '60s. THIS is why "THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW" also appeared on weekdays as "ANDY OF MAYBERRY"; "THE REAL McCOYS" as
"THE McCOYS"....and "THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW" as "THE DICK VAN DYKE MORNING SHOW" (one of those titles appears on TV LAND from time to time-
an episode from season one). When Andy and Dick's series left the nighttime schedule, their shows reverted to their original titles on CBS' daytime schedule.

And then there was the matter of CBS running Jack Benny's filmed repeats
(while he was on NBC's prime-time lineup) in 1964-'65 as "THE JACK BENNY DAYTIME SHOW" [weekdays, 4:30-5pm(et)] and Sunday afternoons [at 5pm]
as "SUNDAY WITH JACK BENNY".

............

TV Knowledge Fan
04-04-2006, 07:34 PM
MCA-TV did repackage "THE BOB CUMMINGS SHOW" as "LOVE THAT BOB", but they first sold it to ABC for daytime repeats from 1959 through '61- THEN it went into syndication. "PRIVATE SECRETARY" became "SUSIE" in syndication in 1957 because the producer still owned the rights to the original title, and was hoping to resurrect the show with another actress as "Susie McNamera"- and couldn't.

PZelda
04-05-2006, 02:33 AM
The Carol Burnett Show (on CBS) -------> Carol Burnett and Friends (in syndication)

gidgetgrape
04-05-2006, 08:43 AM
I believe the reruns of Reba on the WB are being called Reba Beginnings.

tvfan0101
04-05-2006, 11:12 AM
The WB has done that since the late 1990s when they started repeating 7th Heaven as 7th Heaven Beginnings. It was a good way to differentiate between new episodes on the network and early episodes on the network. Not syndication, though, technically. But interesting.

Ireneparalegal
04-05-2006, 12:45 PM
CBS had to retitle their sitcoms that were still running at night for daytime repeats in the early '60s. THIS is why "THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW" also appeared on weekdays as "ANDY OF MAYBERRY"; "THE REAL McCOYS" as
"THE McCOYS"....and "THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW" as "THE DICK VAN DYKE MORNING SHOW" (one of those titles appears on TV LAND from time to time-
an episode from season one). When Andy and Dick's series left the nighttime schedule, their shows reverted to their original titles on CBS' daytime schedule.

And then there was the matter of CBS running Jack Benny's filmed repeats
(while he was on NBC's prime-time lineup) in 1964-'65 as "THE JACK BENNY DAYTIME SHOW" [weekdays, 4:30-5pm(et)] and Sunday afternoons [at 5pm]
as "SUNDAY WITH JACK BENNY".

............

Damn, that is alot of useful info. When I made this thread, I had no idea there were so many shows that had different titles...WOW! I struck gold with this thread.

megamanj2004
04-05-2006, 01:09 PM
The Carol Burnett Show (on CBS) -------> Carol Burnett and Friends (in syndication)

And it's also ironic that Carol Burnett is one of the only few older shows thses days that I can think of that uses the synide title in its reruns.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-05-2006, 02:48 PM
"Carol Burnett And Friends", of course, is the re-edited half-hour version of her original CBS hour-long comedy-variety series , primarily focusing on the sketch material (1973-'77). For some reason, she won't allow her 1967-'73 shows to be seen today, even though she has a complete library of her variety hours on tape. Some of the earlier shows are on deposit in the Library Of Congress in Washington, D.C.- mostly on black & white kinescope film.

Johnny Carson also repackaged his comedy sketches and "funniest moments" from the 1966-'80 era of "THE TONIGHT SHOW" as a half-hour syndicated series called "CARSON'S COMEDY CLASSICS", beginning in 1983. They were widely shown for a few years, then withdrawn.

megamanj2004
04-05-2006, 03:51 PM
"Carol Burnett And Friends", of course, is the re-edited half-hour version of her original CBS hour-long comedy-variety series , primarily focusing on the sketch material (1973-'77). For some reason, she won't allow her 1967-'73 shows to be seen today, even though she has a complete library of her variety hours on tape. Some of the earlier shows are on deposit in the Library Of Congress in Washington, D.C.- mostly on black & white kinescope film.


Ad what about her last season from 1977-78?

I used to have a clip of the original network run w/ closing credits from that last season and now I don't have it anywhere now.

Mr. Television
04-05-2006, 04:03 PM
"Carol Burnett And Friends", of course, is the re-edited half-hour version of her original CBS hour-long comedy-variety series , primarily focusing on the sketch material (1973-'77). For some reason, she won't allow her 1967-'73 shows to be seen today, even though she has a complete library of her variety hours on tape. Some of the earlier shows are on deposit in the Library Of Congress in Washington, D.C.- mostly on black & white kinescope film.

Johnny Carson also repackaged his comedy sketches and "funniest moments" from the 1966-'80 era of "THE TONIGHT SHOW" as a half-hour syndicated series called "CARSON'S COMEDY CLASSICS", beginning in 1983. They were widely shown for a few years, then withdrawn.
Carson's Comedy Classics is airing on Comcast On-Demand right now. At least 6 episodes are.

friendsfan77
04-06-2006, 01:58 PM
Another good example is The Hogan Family. Even when the show was called Valerie or Valerie's Family on NBC, in reruns, all the episodes are titled The Hogan Family, with one exception.. when the Valerie episode "Bad Timing" aired on Pax, they used the title Valerie.

Interesting note on my side: I've seen an episode or two of Happy Days use the title Happy Days Again.

Ireneparalegal
04-06-2006, 02:00 PM
Another good example is The Hogan Family. Even when the show was called Valerie or Valerie's Family on NBC, in reruns, all the episodes are titled The Hogan Family, with one exception.. when the Valerie episode "Bad Timing" aired on Pax, they used the title Valerie.

Interesting note on my side: I've seen an episode or two of Happy Days use the title Happy Days Again.
Yes, that was mentioned (Happy Days again) in one of the previous posts. I found it so odd when this was done. I had no idea why. It seems so many people remember this because of all the posts here. I have learned so much from this thread alone.

KurtfromPitts
04-06-2006, 02:06 PM
"Carson's Comedy Classics" also currently runs on low-power WBGN-TV in Pittsburgh twice a night.

Dr. Thong
04-06-2006, 07:22 PM
The last four seasons of Happy Days were retitled Crappy Days Again for their first syndication run.:D :rolleyes: ;)

TJL
04-06-2006, 07:30 PM
I always hated that shows had to be renamed in syndication.
How stupid do they think we are?
I was a kid, and I knew that the episode of Happy Days on at 5:30 on channel 11 wasn't a brand new episode!

rodwayne
04-07-2006, 10:14 AM
I always hated that shows had to be renamed in syndication.
How stupid do they think we are?
I was a kid, and I knew that the episode of Happy Days on at 5:30 on channel 11 wasn't a brand new episode!
Great point you made.Only those overly obsess with T.V. probably wouldn't notice the difference.That leaves me with one question;was all of Danny Thomas shows known as "Make Room For Daddy",or "the Danny Thomas Show?"Seems like to me when this show was in its original run,both titles were used.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-07-2006, 02:51 PM
...being called "MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY" is yet another example of a series repackaged for network daytime and future syndication. When Danny Thomas decided to lease the first three seasons of his CBS series (1957-'60) to NBC for their daytime schedule in the fall of 1960, those episodes HAD to air under the "MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY" title, so that no one would confuse the afternoon repeats with his Monday night show on "another network". Those episodes ran for five years on NBC daytime, eventually adding season four (1960-'61) and some of the original "DADDY" episodes from the ABC era (1953-'57) towards the end of the NBC run. When the show was finally parcelled into syndication after 1965, those CBS episodes retained the "MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY" title [still do!], although I remember seeing some of them on New York's WOR-TV in the late '60s as "THE DANNY THOMAS SHOW". Apparently, Danny didn't want to syndicate the original "DADDY" episodes, and left them "in the vault", as well as the last two seasons of the CBS series (1962-'64).

Ireneparalegal
04-07-2006, 02:55 PM
The last four seasons of Happy Days were retitled Crappy Days Again for their first syndication run.:D :rolleyes: ;)
:rofl: :rofl::D


I always hated that shows had to be renamed in syndication.
How stupid do they think we are?
I was a kid, and I knew that the episode of Happy Days on at 5:30 on channel 11 wasn't a brand new episode!
Exactly. I was a kid watching Emergency One :rolleyes: and I knew by the time and the channel, that it wasn't going to be a new episode. Come on! the new episodes aired on Saturday on NBC at 8pm...DUH!!!!!!:crazy:

Mr. Television
04-07-2006, 02:57 PM
...being called "MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY" is yet another example of a series repackaged for network daytime and future syndication. When Danny Thomas decided to lease the first three seasons of his CBS series (1957-'60) to NBC for their daytime schedule in the fall of 1960, those episodes HAD to air under the "MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY" title, so that no one would confuse the afternoon repeats with his Monday night show on "another network". Those episodes ran for five years on NBC daytime, eventually adding season four (1960-'61) and some of the original "DADDY" episodes from the ABC era (1953-'57) towards the end of the NBC run. When the show was finally parcelled into syndication after 1965, those CBS episodes retained the "MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY" title [still do!], although I remember seeing some of them on New York's WOR-TV in the late '60s as "THE DANNY THOMAS SHOW". Apparently, Danny didn't want to syndicate the original "DADDY" episodes, and left them "in the vault", as well as the last two seasons of the CBS series (1962-'64).
Thats another thing that always bothered me. Some sitcoms from the 50's and 60's never syndicated all their episodes together. Ozzie and Harriet were one of these shows/ Also My 3 Sons only syndicated the CBS version for years until N@N eventually picked the ABC shows up and even IDOJ never syndicated their first season until N@N finally aired it. I watched it in reruns all the time in the 1970's and I never saw the first season until N@N.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-07-2006, 03:03 PM
..'megaman', was first syndicated in the fall of 1977 to local stations, and only included material from her 1973-'77 shows. Later, she DID add some sketches from the 1972-'73 season of her variety show...but did NOT include any from the 1977-'78 season, her last on CBS. I believe she doesn't want the public to see those (as well as her 1967-'72 material) because Dick Van Dyke did not work that well opposite her as Harvey Korman had done...and the quality of some of those sketches and production numbers of that season were not up to those of her earlier ones.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-07-2006, 03:27 PM
...."THE ADVENTURES OF OZZIE AND HARRIET" was on ABC for 14 years (1952-'66), and they produced over 400 episodes! Too many for syndication- so Ozzie Nelson decided to select about 200 of what he considered to be the "best" episodes, and sent THOSE into syndication.

In the case of "MY THREE SONS", Don Fedderson produced over 300 episodes for ABC (1960-'65) and CBS (1965-'72). When CBS literally bought the series from Fedderson in 1965, and moved it over to their network (and began filming it in color), THEY controlled the right to syndicate the series...and decided that there were, of course, "too many episodes" to syndicate. So they (actually, VIACOM, formerly "CBS Films") decided to release only those color episodes from 1965-'71 [minus the final season] to local stations beginning in 1972, and leave the original '60-'65 black & white episodes "in the vault".

When 'Nick At Nite' (a VIACOM cable service) began running "MY THREE SONS" in the mid-'80s, they began showing those first five seasons along with the later ones [again, minus the final season].

As for "I DREAM OF JEANNIE", Screen Gems-Columbia released ALL 139 episodes to local stations in the fall of 1970. However, some of those stations withheld the first black & white season from broadcast, focusing on the 109 color episodes instead. I know WPIX-TV in New York did this for a while, until they began showing those 1965-'66 episodes around 1972. For a time, they showed the black & white episodes in the morning, and the later ones in late afternoon (this was the mid-'70s, understand).

I hope that clears up a few details!

TV Knowledge Fan
04-07-2006, 03:38 PM
When DFS' "Program Exchange" began syndicating the show in the fall of 1984
(with Columbia Pictures TV's blessings), THEY only packaged the 109 color episodes, and left the first season "in the vault". It wasn't until I saw the black & white episodes on 'SuperStation WTBS' in 1986 did I realize they had permission to run their 16mm "JEANNIE" prints along with the "Program Exchange" 'videoprints' shown on local stations...until 1987, when they dropped theirs. By 1994, Columbia Pictures Television leased "JEANNIE" to 'Nick At Nite', using brand new video transfers of every episode, until 2000 (or so). Then, TV LAND began showing NEW Sony 'videoprints' [from remastered negatives] beginning in 2003...and still do to this day!

tv star collector
04-07-2006, 05:47 PM
As Rick Mitz explained in THE GREAT TV SITCOM BOOK (1980), Danny Thomas's
series debuted on ABC, on Sept. 29, 1953, under the title MAKE ROOM FOR
DADDY. That format, with Jean Hagen as his wife, ran from 1953 to 1955.
"When Hagen left the show, a wet-eyed Danny Williams explained to his kids
that 'Mommy has gone to heaven.' That was the end of Jean Hagen ... and the
1955 season.
"The following year, 1956-1957, the program got a new name: THE DANNY
THOMAS SHOW. In the last four episodes, widower Williams met Kathy O'Hara
[Marjorie Lord], a pretty Irish widow with soft red hair and slate-blue eyes.
"There were other changes, as well. Sherry Jackson left the show to 'go off
to school.' She was replaced by Kathy's young daughter Linda (Angela
Cartwright) ...
"In 1957, THE DANNY THOMAS SHOW was transplanted to CBS, where it
played out its run" [until 1964].

tv star collector
04-07-2006, 05:58 PM
Somewhat off-topic: even some Saturday morning network kids' shows
were treated the same way. Timothy Rupp, in a sidebar to Gary Grossman's
book SATURDAY MORNING TV (1981) writes: "Old television programs never
die, they just fade away ... or they return in the guise of network and syndicated reruns, revisions, and revivals. An oft-used prescription for these
resurrected shows is 'Change the title!'"

Thus, GUNSMOKE became MARSHAL DILLON, BONANZA was rechristened
PONDEROSA [long before the new PAX series of the same name], WAGON
TRAIN was retitled MAJOR ADAMS or just plain TRAILMASTER. LASSIE gave
birth to JEFF'S COLLIE, FURY to BRAVE STALLION. CAPTAIN MIDNIGHT was
sometimes called JET JACKSON, FLYING COMMANDO (with the Ovaltine
commercials removed), and CAPTAIN GALLANT OF THE FOREIGN LEGION was
shortened to FOREIGN LEGIONNAIRE. PRIVATE SECRETARY became SUSIE,
and the NBC cartoon KING LEONARDO & HIS SHORT SUBJECTS was reduced
to THE KING & ODIE.

Mr. Television
04-07-2006, 06:04 PM
Yea Lassie was also syndicated 3 ways as Jeff's Collie , Timmy and Lassie and then for the ranger years just Lassie.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-08-2006, 04:44 PM
...there were so many permutations of "LASSIE" that Wrather Corporation "split" the episodes in syndication, according to who starred in them. Hence, the 1954-'57 episodes were sent out as "JEFF'S COLLIE" (while the original series was still on CBS), the 1958-'63 episodes as "TIMMY & LASSIE"...and the rest of them under the original title (although CBS did present some repeats in 1965-'66 as "THE ADVENTURES OF LASSIE" on Saturday mornings).

And, oh yes, one more example: when "BOB HOPE PRESENTS THE CHRYSLER THEATER" went off NBC in 1967, MCA-TV reissued those episodes under the title, "UNIVERSAL STAR TIME"...minus Hope's original opening and closing remarks. And, in the case of "KRAFT SUSPENSE THEATER" (1963-'65), MCA reissued that as "CRISIS".

TV Favorites
04-08-2006, 11:59 PM
The first "American Idol" is being syndicated soon with the title of "American Idol Rewind."

Mr. Television
04-09-2006, 02:01 AM
The first "American Idol" is being syndicated soon with the title of "American Idol Rewind."
Thats all we need. More American Idol. :lol:

TV Knowledge Fan
04-10-2006, 02:14 PM
...of first-run network TV shows being retitled in syndication all over again!

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TV Knowledge Fan
04-10-2006, 02:32 PM
As Rick Mitz explained in THE GREAT TV SITCOM BOOK (1980), Danny Thomas's
series debuted on ABC, on Sept. 29, 1953, under the title MAKE ROOM FOR
DADDY. That format, with Jean Hagen as his wife, ran from 1953 to 1955.
"When Hagen left the show, a wet-eyed Danny Williams explained to his kids
that 'Mommy has gone to heaven.' That was the end of Jean Hagen ... and the
1955 season.
"The following year, 1956-1957, the program got a new name: THE DANNY
THOMAS SHOW. In the last four episodes, widower Williams met Kathy O'Hara
[Marjorie Lord], a pretty Irish widow with soft red hair and slate-blue eyes.
"There were other changes, as well. Sherry Jackson left the show to 'go off
to school.' She was replaced by Kathy's young daughter Linda (Angela
Cartwright) ...
"In 1957, THE DANNY THOMAS SHOW was transplanted to CBS, where it
played out its run" [until 1964].


Mr. Mitz omitted the "1955-'56" season (Jean Hagen's last), so the first three seasons of the show were 1953-'56. And, yes, the show's title WAS changed to "THE DANNY THOMAS SHOW" in its final ABC season.....but you STILL won't see those episodes [outside of collectors' circles and P.D.] anywhere, because Danny Thomas {and now his family} won't allow their "official" release. I believe it might have had something to do with his former producer, Lou Edelman...because when Danny moved to CBS in 1957, Sheldon Leonard had become his partner in producing the series AND functioned as producer in addition to his directing chores. In fact, they officially formed "T & L Productions", which lasted until Leonard started producing "I SPY" in 1965.

TV_on_the_Porch
04-12-2006, 01:25 AM
When 'Nick At Nite' (a VIACOM cable service) began running "MY THREE SONS" in the mid-'80s, they began showing those first five seasons along with the later ones [again, minus the final season].




In fact what Nick At Nite did was run the five b&w seasons and the final (71-72) season, and did not carry the 65-71 episodes. So Nick At Nite's package was all the episodes that had not been seen in syndication for all those years--and only those eps.

TV Knowledge Fan
04-12-2006, 02:32 PM
...(OR 'TV LAND') DID show the 1965-'71 episodes eventually, as well as those withheld from syndication/cable.

treky
04-13-2006, 01:54 AM
yes, they did, because I remember seeing them.

treky
04-13-2006, 01:57 AM
The last four seasons of Happy Days were retitled Crappy Days Again for their first syndication run.:D :rolleyes: ;)
you're kidding, of course; but I'm not by saying they SHOULD have been titled that!!!

TV_on_the_Porch
04-14-2006, 07:51 PM
...(OR 'TV LAND') DID show the 1965-'71 episodes eventually, as well as those withheld from syndication/cable.

If that's what you (both) remember then I take your word that that's what happened. However I was remembering all the way back to the late '80s when MTS first joined the Nick lineup. There was a fair bit of hoopla at the time about those "lost" episodes turning up, including an article in TV Guide. The reason I so specifically remember that the color eps shown then were from the final season was the eery feeling I had as a twenty-something seeing again for the first time episodes I had watched at 7- and 8-years old . . . it seemed a little bit like deja-vu to remember specific scenes from such a long time before.