View Full Version : Some Breakthroughs and Complaints Behind the Scenes


JeffRuss1972
03-26-2006, 05:00 PM
The following info I got from The Great TV Sitcom Book on S&S, and thought you might find it interesting-

***A negative review of the show appeared on Jan. 17, 1973 in the New York Times by a black critic. He wrote that "Fred Sanford and his little boy Lamont, conceived by white minds and based upon a white value system, are not strong black men capable of acheiving---or even understanding---liberation. They are merely two more American child-men. We---all of us---need to be surrounded by positive---and true---images of blackness based upon black realities, not white aberrations." Well! Letters poured into the TIMES, pro-program, including one from then twenty-three year old Memphis-born Ilunga Adell, a writer on the series who said he had "never even spoken with a white person until I was eighteen years old." Redd Foxx was also livid: "I don't agree that our show is 'white to the core'. The sucess is what matters, not the color. The fact that we're doing a show that appeals to everybody, not just blacks, or whites, or Mexicans, but everybody. It's entertainment. I personally thought it would be meaningful to have a black show that appeals to everyone. It's a fun show, about love and most of all entertainment. There are incidents that happen with us that happen in every family, black or white. I don't think a show has to BE all-black. Why, that's setting us back, not moving forward."

***SANFORD AND SON was making some breakthroughs, despite the controversy: at inner-city New York schools, students were watching SANFORD AND SON during their classes and following the show's scripts at the same time. The result: kids seemed to be showing "high motivation" (according to the school report) to learn how to read, and were interested in taking writing and typing courses so they could learn to write SANFORD AND SON scripts themselves.

Brian Damage
03-26-2006, 09:28 PM
I agree with Foxx, this was a show that appealed to everyone. That's the problem with a lot of shows today. They only appeal to a certain demographic, not a wide variety of people.

TVFactFan
03-26-2006, 11:49 PM
The following info I got from The Great TV Sitcom Book on S&S, and thought you might find it interesting-

***A negative review of the show appeared on Jan. 17, 1973 in the New York Times by a black critic. He wrote that "Fred Sanford and his little boy Lamont, conceived by white minds and based upon a white value system, are not strong black men capable of acheiving---or even understanding---liberation. They are merely two more American child-men. We---all of us---need to be surrounded by positive---and true---images of blackness based upon black realities, not white aberrations." Well! Letters poured into the TIMES, pro-program, including one from then twenty-three year old Memphis-born Ilunga Adell, a writer on the series who said he had "never even spoken with a white person until I was eighteen years old." Redd Foxx was also livid: "I don't agree that our show is 'white to the core'. The sucess is what matters, not the color. The fact that we're doing a show that appeals to everybody, not just blacks, or whites, or Mexicans, but everybody. It's entertainment. I personally thought it would be meaningful to have a black show that appeals to everyone. It's a fun show, about love and most of all entertainment. There are incidents that happen with us that happen in every family, black or white. I don't think a show has to BE all-black. Why, that's setting us back, not moving forward."

***SANFORD AND SON was making some breakthroughs, despite the controversy: at inner-city New York schools, students were watching SANFORD AND SON during their classes and following the show's scripts at the same time. The result: kids seemed to be showing "high motivation" (according to the school report) to learn how to read, and were interested in taking writing and typing courses so they could learn to write SANFORD AND SON scripts themselves.



Interesting Info, also A Tv Guide Critic in 1976 said that Sanford and Son was ONE DIMENSIONAL and that he felt the spinoff "GRADY" was a better show-lol Do you agree Jeff?

Brian Damage
03-26-2006, 11:51 PM
Interesting Info, also A Tv Guide Critic in 1976 said that Sanford and Son was ONE DIMENSIONAL and that he felt the spinoff "GRADY" was a better show-lol Do you agree Jeff?


Who the heck said that? The crazy Cleveland Armory?!?!

TVFactFan
03-26-2006, 11:53 PM
Who the heck said that? The crazy Cleveland Armory?!?!


YUP-lol TV Guide, Feb 14-21 1976

Brian Damage
03-26-2006, 11:59 PM
YUP-lol TV Guide, Feb 14-21 1976


That guy was NUTS!!! He had zero business being a tv critic. All his predictions and criticisms eventually bit him on the ass!

JeffRuss1972
03-27-2006, 12:13 AM
Interesting Info, also A Tv Guide Critic in 1976 said that Sanford and Son was ONE DIMENSIONAL and that he felt the spinoff "GRADY" was a better show-lol Do you agree Jeff?

DAMN- I definitely wouldn't say GRADY was a BETTER show-lol. Of course, I've only seen 2 eps, but there was no STAND OUT character like Fred Sanford, so probably not. It was sort of like Sanford and Son was in the 3rd season when Foxx had left and Grady was living with Lamont-lol.
Anyway, can you imagine being in school and having as an assignment to watch Sanford and Son and follow along WITH the script-lol. THAT would have been a fun year.

BTW I would NEVER describe S&S OR Redd Foxx as ONE DIMENSIONAL-lol

TVFactFan
03-27-2006, 12:18 AM
That guy was NUTS!!! He had zero business being a tv critic. All his predictions and criticisms eventually bit him on the ass!



Go to the Welcome Back Kotter Board and see what he said about the Sweathoggs-lol

Brian Damage
03-27-2006, 12:18 AM
Go to the Welcome Back Kotter Board and see what he said about the Sweathoggs-lol


I can hardly wait. :rolleyes:

TVFactFan
03-27-2006, 12:20 AM
DAMN- I definitely wouldn't say GRADY was a BETTER show-lol. Of course, I've only seen 2 eps, but there was no STAND OUT character like Fred Sanford, so probably not. It was sort of like Sanford and Son was in the 3rd season when Foxx had left and Grady was living with Lamont-lol.
Anyway, can you imagine being in school and having as an assignment to watch Sanford and Son and follow along WITH the script-lol. THAT would have been a fun year.

BTW I would NEVER describe S&S OR Redd Foxx as ONE DIMENSIONAL-lol



He said that on the show Grady, all the casts members were good. On Sanford and Son, the only interesting character was Fred-lol

Brian Damage
03-27-2006, 12:24 AM
He said that on the show Grady, all the casts members were good. On Sanford and Son, the only interesting character was Fred-lol


The only thing of Grady I saw, was the pilot which is considered an episode of S & S. It was boring as heck, although it was cool to see a young Haywood Nelson.