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Pavan 03-21-2006, 02:33 AM I think during season five, Charles in Charge tried to spin-off a show three times. These three episodes featured the guest cast heavily:
#119 Lost Resort
Buddy's identical cousin (Willie Aames) takes Charles' job at a Hawaii resort.
Guest Stars: Jeff Bennett as Mitchell Hunt, Susan Jennifer Sullivan as Tippi Brewster, Brian Backer as Leonard Burley, Frank Ferrante as the Human Fly, Lisa Melilli as Woman, Dick Gautier as Karl Higler
#123 Almost Family
Charles helps save his aunt's (Ellen Travolta) carwash.
Guest Stars: Rodney Eastman as Bobby Nijinsji, Billy "Sly" Williams as Tyrone Sampson, Molly Orr as Emily Perdue, Crystal Carson as Penny Hennesy, Jeff Davis as Lewis "Spiderman" Burch, Jack Bannon as Arthur Stingley
#125 Fair Exchange
Sarah vists her relatives in New Mexico, including her cousin (Nicole Eggert).
Guest Stars: Cecilia Hart as Elaine Colfax, Michael Manasseri as Michael Colfax, Olivia Burnette as Melanie Colfax, Ivan Gueron as Nikki, David Graf as Steve Colfax
All three had something in common--they had stars of Charles in Charge in dual roles. #119 had Willie Aames playing Buddy's identical cousin; #123 had Ellen Travolta playing Lillian's sister Aunt Sally; #125 had Nicole Eggert playing an identical cousin. All three episodes also had different closing credits from usual Charles in Charge episodes--instead of scenes from the episode, they had just a portrait of the cast.
Could it be that they tried to sell these as their own show? I think #125 or #123 would have actually worked. #119 was dull.
Moonlit_Suburb 03-21-2006, 03:32 AM Haha, Pavan, I was just going to start a thread about this. :p
I saw all three of those episodes recently on UPN. The first one I saw was "Lost Resort" which I didn't care for that much. (although it was neat seeing Mark Ratner from Fast Times at Ridgemont High out on the ledge) Then I saw the other two eps and was thinking "Jeez, how many of these dual-role/spin-off shows are they gonna do?" Really, it was getting annoying...and it was pretty strange to me that in every one, they had a "Charles" cast member playing different characters that didn't look or sound very different from what they did on their original show. (physically or personality-wise) I liked the "Fair Exchange" episode best, with Sarah visiting her relatives in New Mexico. I would have watched that if it were a series. (The son on that ep was pretty funny...kinda reminded me of Keanu Reeves in "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure") By the time UPN aired "Almost Family", I was just getting tired of these types of eps and didn't really care for it all that much. (Though, I guess it was a novel idea to set a sitcom inside a car wash? And I liked the bald guy who lost all his money on Wall Street...)
I think you may be right, Pavan. They all definitely seemed like spin-off attempts to me. Maybe, since Charles in Charge was coming to an end, the producers were trying to get another series started up...funny that after three attempts, none of them made it. :p
Scoobiedoo30 03-21-2006, 11:05 AM I did not know that Charles in Charge Tryed to do a Spib-Off in Season 5
that would be nice if Charles in Charge did have a Spin-Off Series during
Season 5
88survivor 03-21-2006, 01:20 PM I always thought the finale would be like: Charles In Charge: The Return in the year 2006 or 2007.
You know, in case they ever revived the show again...but they would probably not.
Did Charles in Charge Really Try Spinning Off Three Shows in Its Last Eight Episodes? (https://www.cbr.com/charles-in-charge-try-spinning-off-three-shows-in-last-eight-episodes/)
TV URBAN LEGEND: Charles in Charge tried to spin off three different cast members in the final eight episodes of the series, using the same strange approach for all three attempts.
Generally speaking, once you have had a successful TV series as a producer, the desire is, naturally, to have ANOTHER successful TV series, especially since TV series are generally finite in nature (except for Law & Order: SVU, which will outlast the heat death of the universe), so if you have one show in Season 4, it would be nice to have another show just starting out, so that you can always keep at least one show on TV at any given time. That's the hope, at least. One of the easiest ways to get a new show is to, of course, spin off a show from your existing popular show. When you are spinning off a new show, one of the best ways to do so is to use what is called a "backdoor pilot," which is to say, an episode of the main show that is designed to also act as a pilot for the new series. Therefore, you get the audience of the existing popular show to get used to these new characters on the possible spinoff. I have a whole feature where I spotlight backdoor pilots (https://popculturereferences.com/category/back-door-blues/) (including ones that turned into series and ones that did not).
However, no TV show has ever tried something quite so audacious as to what Charles in Charge did in the final eight episodes of its run in 1990, where it did three different backdoor pilots for three different cast members of the series, all of whom were playing different characters than they played on Charles in Charge. It's super weird.
WHAT WAS CHARLES IN CHARGE?
Charles in Charge launched in 1984 as one of a series of TV series that were trying to capitalize on the success of the 1983 hit film, Mr. Mom, where Michael Keaton played a stay at home father whose wife was going back to work. Shows like Who's the Boss, Growing Pains and Charles in Charge all played off the novelty of a man taking on a stereotypically female role. In the case of Charles in Charge, Scott Baio played Charles, a college student who worked as a male live-in nanny to the Pembrokes, a family with three kids (ranging from pre-teen to teen). Baio was just coming off his run as Chachi Arcola on Happy Days. The series only lasted for one season at first, but it was then (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-09-08-ca-13109-story.html) revived as a syndicated (https://www.nytimes.com/1986/05/01/arts/independents-buying-new-sitcoms.html) series in 1987, almost two years after Season 1 ended. Charles remained a nanny, but he had a brand-new family, the Powells (who, conveniently, also had three children, ranging from pre-teen to teen). Charles' best friend throughout the series, Buddy Lembeck, was played by Baio's co-star from an early 1980s film, Zapped!, Willie Ames (Aames was also one of the kids on Eight is Enough).
The breakout star of the kids was Nicole Eggert, who played the oldest daughter, Jamie. Ellen Travolta, who had played Chachi's mother on Happy Days, joined the syndicated version of the show, playing Charles' mother. The syndicated version ran for another four seasons, ending in late 1990. Before it ended, though, the show tried three very unusual backdoor pilots.
WHAT WAS SO STRANGE ABOUT THESE CHARLES IN CHARGE SPINOFFS?
As the series was ending, Baio wanted to see if they could find a way to give Travolta a shot at a spinoff, but producers Kathy and Bill Greer felt that she just wasn't that interesting. However, they were willing to give it a shot, provided that Travolta played a different character. This led to "Almost Family," an episode where Charles visits his Aunt Sally, who happened to be played by...Ellen Travolta! Sally owned a car wash filled with wacky characters. She was going to have to close up shop, but luckily, it was revealed that her ex-husband had messed up some of the books, and she had a big tax rebate coming that would allow her to remain open.
Ellen Travolta in a spiky wig was quite a sight. Travolta's real-life husband played one of the workers at the car wash. Scott Baio directed the episode and co-wrote it with his father, Mario.
Willie Aames' spinoff was a strange one, as the show was willing to try to give Buddy a spinoff, but Aames had tired of the character, so instead played Buddy's cousin, Dudley, who gets a job working at a Hawaiian resort filled with, yes, you guessed it, wacky characters. Charles was offered the gig at the hotel, but when it looked like he couldn't make it, Buddy offered it to his cousin. When Charles arrived in Hawaii, the job was already taken. Dudley was just the same sort of imbecilic character that Buddy was, so I don't know why Aames felt it was worth his while if he didn't want to play Buddy anymore...
Baio directed this one, as well, and producers Kathy and Bill Greer wrote the episode.
That was the same creative team in the final attempt at a spinoff, in the penultimate episode of the series, where middle daughter, Sarah (played by Josie Davis) visits her family in Arizona, where her cousin Amanda looks just like Jamie (and is played by Nicole Eggert). The show was a novel approach, really, as an Eastern European teen is staying with the family as part of an exchange program, and that is used to contrast with the problems that Amanda is going through with the fact that she wants to date a boy who is from Mexico. Amanda has a bratty little sister and a Bill and Ted-esque brother who is roughly her age.
The late David Graf, of Police Academy fame, played the father of the family.
It is worth pointing out that, in recent years, Nicole Eggert has made a number of claims about inappropriate sexual behavior from Baio during her stint on the show, beginning when she was 14 (Baio admits to a sexual relationship with Eggert, but he insists that it did not happen until she was 18). The youngest son on the show during the syndication years, Alexander Polinsky, also made accusations against Baio, claiming he was physically and emotionally abusive. Baio denies all of the allegations.
The legend about the spinoffs is...
STATUS: True
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