Life in the reaL 1950'S was NOTHING like what you see on this show. There were toilets in the bathrooms (at least in houses where there is running sink water),fathers didn't always have white collar jobs, were not always over or even just six feet tall, and possesing athletic builds. Mothers did not always look like former fashion models. And in the50s it was rare that both middle aged parents be perfectly colege educated. Also couples who loved each other and were totally healthy would virtually never sleep in sperate beds! As for the kids not all real 50's children were incapable of real violence or being closet gays. And a lot schools in the US had blacks and Chinese/Japanese kids going to schoo with white kids. I have seen real 50's yearbooks proving this.

Dumb, false, and indistinguishable from other 50's shows!

You two have missed the purpose of FKB. That was a wonderful time of life. Mothers and fathers raised their children together. The family worked as a unit. I miss those days and I loved the show - it was fun.

Lisa, quite a few married women in the real 1950's worked at pissass low paying jobs just to support their familes. FKB was a bunch of bull**** in every way!

I agree most TV shows of the 50's aren't realistic (actually, alot of shows from any decade are unrealistic). They're not supposed to be. They're supposed to be entertaining and an escape from reality.

Apparently some people here are not able to distinguish fiction from documentary entertainment. Father Knows Best was fiction, and believe it or not, in the 50's some families did consist of college educated parents, one of whom had a white collar job. If Jim Anderson had been portrayed as an auto mechanic in Slim's Auto Repair Shop, would somebody complain that not everybody in the 50's was a "grease monkey"? Sure the show was sort of phoney with the moralizing and politeness, but even though it was distorted it did reflect something of the 50's.

I can distinguish just fine between those two. I didn't say that no one in the 1950's had two college-educated parents and other stuff, just that it was rare.
Also, a great many surbanites in the early 50's got into the suburbs on something called the G.I. Bill. It was given to veterans of both WW2 and the Korean War. On FKNB you never hear the G.I. Bill being mentioned. Also, most kids in suburbs in 1954 (when FKNB premiered) were not born and raised in those suburbs (so unlike the fictional Anderson kids on FKNB). The reason being the surburban craze was under ten years old in 1954. Most kids came there from big and mill cities. Furthermore, the house you see on FKNB is not a real house inside or out. Shot in the Columbia Pictures studio and studio lot, it is more picaresque than many, many real-life suburbs were especially at the time as they often tended to be undeveloped. Again FKNB a very false show.

I should have written it as "FKB" and "suburbanites" but everything else I said stands!

Get a grip! It's tv - entertainment - not a documentary of life in the 50's. Actually, I grew up in a house and a community that looked quite a bit like the setting of fkb. I will be glad to see that show again on tvland. Especially, during these tough times - it will be nice to escape to.

Please remember that FKB was a sitcom, not a PBS documentary. It was the network that made decisions on seperate beds, not the writers. FKB hit on alot of the feelings, attitudes, and looks of the era. I know. I was there. Incomplete, sure. Oversimplified, yes. But real and warm in many ways. Yes, both my parents were college educated. It wasn't that rare. This show was meant to entertain and produce a warm feeling, not show sadness and major tradjedies. I'm sorry if some people did not have a happy experience in that time. It does not mean it did not exist. I can't wait to see everyone again.

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It does not make one damn bit of difference whose idea it was to make the show's married couple sleep in seperate beds. It was ridiculous just the same! No married couple who are healthy as could be and love each other dearly would ever sleep in seperate beds. Ever!!!!

I can promise you something else too. At least 70% of all American children in 1954 did not have two college educated parents (probably even as good deal more). That alienates 70% minimum of all 50's kids watching from thinking this show was just like their lives. It was silly for lots of other reasons too. The seperate bed issue. The overly perfect looking parents. What city is Springfield a suburb of? No mention or even hint. Looks like a world in itself. A father who has a full time white collar job and still has nothing but time and energy to spend with his kids. Money affording this great house is no object ever. Almost no one ever yells. And so on. No hemmorhoids (sp). No periods the girls go through. Ridiculous, ridiculous!

I hesitate to reply again with someone who is so obviously bitter and full of personal resentments. FKB must show you a life of which you feel unjustly deprived. I'm sorry for that. Don't watch the show. And please study a bit more of your social history of the time. It has been said, FKB was a tv show, not the absolute true example of life in that time, but there are decent representations if you would not become so personally charged. If not at all for you, again I'm sorry, I hope your life now is better.
As George McMichael said on The Real Mccoys,"I've said my piece."

I agree, ficlopri must have had a very sad childhood - I am sorry. But, the fact is tv is entertainment, esp. sitcoms. Try to remember that. We didn't start hearing about hormones, sex etc. until much later than the 50's and 60's. Try to just enjoy. Personally, to me, it is nice not to hear about sex and violence sometimes.

re: above poster stating that "at least 70% of families in the '50s didn't have two college educated parents, etc...".

That may or may not be true, but FKB was not about a family with two college educated parents...it was about a family, living in the suburbs, in which the father worked and the mother stayed home and took care of the house and the kids...I don't know about Margaret's education, but if she was college educated, they sure didn't stress that in the show...did that lady EVER work outside the home? maybe for an episode or two, but she was not a "career" woman by any means.

I happened to have grown up in the 60s and 70s, in a beautiful suburban area. And, far more than 70% of the moms in my area did indeed stay home to raise the family. Very few moms worked outside the home before their kids were at least Jr. High age. Our childhood was a lot more like FKB that unlike it in those respects.

As far was what state Springfield was in, it doesn't matter. It was not meant to be in any particular state, any more than Mayfield (of Leave it to Beaver fame), "City" (of Brady Bunch fame), or even "Metropolis" (of Superman fame). A lot of sitcoms in those days took place in fictional towns, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. They were not meant to be a historical records of life in those days, they were situation comedies, and nothing more. BTW, my father worked his butt off in NYC (we lived in NJ), but he still managed to find plenty of time to spend with us (3 kids). Parents can do that if they set their priorities correctly, which is something too few parents do today. Too many parents regard their kids as an inconvenience today, but such was not always the case.

As far as your individual life matching or not matching what happens on these shows, that's not the point. They were just stories written by people for other people to (hopefully) enjoy. Sorry if your life wasn't quite like the Anderson's, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

No one in the real life 50's ever had this combination of elements in their life like The Andersons. Oh, and I am not a miserable person simply because I do not buy a bunch of cow pies (like FKB) to ever have been true to life. And there was talk about hormones in the real 1950's. Even in 50's art. The 1959 (!!!!) film Gidget has the line "Honey maybe you need a few hormone lessons".

TV Land Fan, they most certainly did mention on FKB Margaret Anderson having gone to College. And in the real 50's a good many ladies had to work even after marriage they did not want to they had to. Many families in the real 1950's America were too poor to even afford houses. And some mothers were widows and had to work to support their kids.

And them not mentioning what city Springfield is a suburb of just makes it seem like a fairy tale all the more! Almost nothing like reality was FKB! And in my posting just before this on Margaret and working mothers it's actually covering two topics and it should have been two paragrphs.

Only thing is, would mentioning the city of which Springfield was a suburb made the show more "real"? No, because there's still the matter of Margaret not working. What if Margaret then got a job? Would it be "real" then? No, because the adventures the kids got into didn't really happen to anyone in the 50's.

So what if the kids just went to school, played an occassional sport, and maybe joined the band for a year or two? Would that
have made the show real? Well, maybe, but if that were the case,the show wouldn't have been as entertaining.


Look, I realize that things in real life are almost never the way TV portrays them. I doubt that there are really 6 friends
in NY (or wherever Friends takes place) who have nothing to do but hang around the coffee shop all day and all night. And, if
there are, I'll guarantee that the girls don't all look like Lisa K, Courtney C and Jennifer A. But hey, it's just a show.
In fact, I doubt you could find six people in NYC who have been friends for as long as this show has been on, without ANY outsiders EVER infiltrating the group and becoming a seventh "friend", or another couple entering and becoming a seventh and eighth "friend".

I'll bet the Marine Corps would never put up with a goof like Gomer Pyle for five years.

Is there actually such a place as Hooterville? If so, what state is it in? How come they never told us?

I've never seen a family like the Munsters. Yet I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I don't believe that's what families were like back
then, but I still can watch the show and enjoy it.


Point is, sitcoms are not supposed to be real all the time. I am aware that Billy Gray tried to have the scripts for the show
changed on a number of occassions, and in the end the writers always won out. So yeah, there were unrealistic situations in FNB,
as well as ever other sitcom ever made.

However, if Billy Gray was so upset about the fact that the show was unrealistic, why didn't he ever go out and try to produce
a "realistic" 50's show, put his money where his mouth is? And, I just wonder how many people would be interested in watching
a "realistic" 50s show week after week. That's what old home movies are for :-)

Trust me though, ficlopri, I understand that FNB was not always realistic. In fact, I think it's ridiculous that the show received a number of awards for "Constructive Portrayal of American Family Life". (This
actually happened). But, when the show was cancelled early in it's run, there were
protests from everywhere, and the show was put back on. People liked to watch it. And that's the main thing. People liked it,
realistic or not.

I forgot to reply to the seperate bed issue raised. Actually, you are incorrect in that point also. Both sets of my grandparents loved each other very much, but they all had twin beds. That was very popular back then. Are you sure you were around back then?

Another point. My mother stayed home with all four of us. I also stayed home with my children and have only recently taken a part-time job since my oldest is in high school. So, yes some people did live like the Andersons. No, it is not easy to live on one income, but sometimes it is nice to raise your own kids.

Amen, Lisa!

I think more and more people are finding out that the best way to raise kids is to have a full time parent at home.

A lot of people won't give up the extra income that a wife/mother can provide by working, and therefore they leave the kids in day care or with relatives, often their grandparents, if they are well enough. All too often, the 2nd income is eaten up by taxes, day care costs, and extra wear and tear on cars, as well as extra work clothes that must be constantly replaced.

But I'm seeing more and more stay-at-home Moms these days than I've seen in the past 20 or so years (I even know a few stay-at-home pops). And, I don't know any stay-at-home moms who are sorry they're doing it. A # of them have college degrees, but they realize that when you have kids, nothing, but nothing is more important that raising them. And the best way to do that is to be there for them. This nonsense about "quality time" is a bunch of bull. Kids need their parents to be there for them.

There's also no doubt that, when my wife and I have kids, she's going to stay home with them. That's what we both want, and that's the way it's going to be. No ifs, ands or buts.

And finally, Lisa, congratulations on being a stay-at-home Mom. Speaking as a former kid who had a stay at home mom when we were too young to take care of ourselves, I guarantee you that your kids will have great memories of days spent with you (not in a day care center) while they were growing up...and those are the best memories money can't buy. God bless!



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And I guess ficlopri will next try and tell us that Star Trek is false/fake also!! Geeze.... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif Well beam me up Scottie!


Father Knows Best is one of my all-time favorite oldies!

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I'm sorry, but I have to desent. Father Knows Best was, believe it or not, a mirror of my life. Kathy was my age, I had a brother just like Bud, my mother stayed at home, wore dresses every day, with an apron, and my father sold insurance, wore a suit, and came home every night for dinner. He was president of the PTA, little league coach, etc. and he was totally involved with us both physically as well as emotionally. He gave generously of his time and wisdom and was my personal support system. My life was exactly like Kathy's. Believe it or not.

To Sheflys

Did your parents sleep in seperate beds in the same bedroom? Were they both college-educated? Did you have a toilet in your bathroom? Did anyone in your house ever swear?

Lisa, my great uncle and his wife slept in seperate beds but that is only cause he had a bad back and she was heavy!

You almost all have missed the point. No one in the real 1950's would have all the elements the of fictional Anderson family. You may have had half the elements of them or even three quaters of them but none of you would have had all these elements (and please no one be a smart ass and say that all we were missing from our real 50's lives was having the name Anderson if you know what I mean). I am not a miserable person I just don't believe in fairy tales.

Statistical fact:

In 1954 10% of all Americans were black! That automatically eliminates the ultra-white Andersons from being just like anywhere near all real life americans! There was also around half a million Chinese Americans and Japanese Americans in 1954!

More statistics coming up!`

Historical fact: 1908 Sears and Roebuck catalog shows toilets for sale!!!!! 1908 mind you!!!!

Lloyd Schwartz, who made The Brady Bunch with his dad Sherwood, commented that he got alot of complaints that his show had a maid and that that was unrealistic for an american family in the 1960's to have a servant. Lloyd did not agree! As an american teenager in the 1960's his real-life family had a maid. But Lloyd certainly did not have the full Brady combination. His father Sherwood was Jewish, balding on top and a little on the short side (so unlike the fictional Mike Brady). Now look what my Lloyd
Schwartz example has to do with the FKB series and you all is that many of you sound kinda like Lloyd. Some of you said that you saw some of FKB's elements in your real life 50's existence and that's fine. But none of you had every single element of this show (including, of course, having the last name of Anderson). That is my real point. And pointing out that in 1954 America had 5 million Jewish people. Out of a population of around 180 to 185 million, the Jewish percentage of Americans was at least 2.6 %. Blacks were 10%, 1/4 of 1% of Americans were Chinese or Japanese. Mind you the Andersons are white Christians so they have lost pure identification with around 13% of Americans in 1954 so far! More statistics to come.

PS Does anyone, incidentally, think Lloyd Schwartz strongly resembled Robert Young? Lloyd can be seen in one episode of the Brady Bunch in the ep where the Bradys go to the Amusement Park. Lloyd is the guy in the animal suit!

OK, Mr. or Mrs. or whatever you are or whereever you came from ficlopri - what kind of a name is that anyway0sound comunist bloc. Oh well, anyway to the point! We are very well aware of the fictionalization of one of the most warm and fuzzy T.V. shows of our time, BUT - why must you persistantly tear a piece of Americana to shreads with your un-heralded hateful critiscism? HUH? Leave us alone here...Lisa and all are apparently correct in stating that you must have had a difficult upbringing. Or were you just a bad boy! By the way, pictauresue is spelled "picturesque". And also, why did you watch so much of it if it really bothered you in the first place? Geez, I don't understand some people in this world. We need Jim and Margaret now more than ever! I felt really good after watching the show as a child and young adult and I aspired to live my life for the right way of doing things and treating people. Not Hating! We don't hate you and we shouldn't judge you but please don't bash this show. We have enough hatred in the world. My piece is said. Thanks Mr. Russell!

My older sibling used to decide what I watched when I was a child (I often watched whatever my sibling did) that is why I saw so much of it!

To strange man or woman, ficlopri, (where did you get such a strange name?) I have read though your statistics. Yes, it is true that until the mid-60's most races did not appear on television. I'm sorry for that. But, you must get a grip and enjoy the show. It's kind, it's nice. Since the attacks, I have no desire to watch shoot 'em ups, violence, etc. I want a kinder gentler place to go to to escape once in a while. I don't know if you have children or not, but all that has happened is very sad to me. I keep thinking that my children will grow up in such a different world. Yes, we baby boomers faced drills under the desks, but we had never seen a homeland attack like we have now. In summing up, give us a break and let us enjoy a nice time in our lives. When it comes back on, I urge you to watch and try to gain a little peace in your life.

Everyone but Lisa never mind me. Just remember everyone that no one in the real 1950's USA ever the entire combination of elements of the fictional Anderson family of FKB. Half the elements sometimes. Three quarters of the elements very rarely. All the elements minus one----NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!All the elements-----------NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for Lisa you must have been badly raised. Your mother should have taught you to mind your own business (it's none of your peas and q's where I got my moniker Ficlopri). And your father should have taught what is important in life (it doesn't matter where I got my moniker!).

Father Knows Best more accurately depicted a white christian family of the 50's than the cosby show did of a negro family in the 80's!

If a television program accurately depicted the role black people have played in america, you would hear constant screaming & whining plus cries of racism, ad nauseum.They are always presented as 'victims' and never held accountable for the problems they have created and caused i.e.crime, deterioration of public schools, over 50% illegitimate birth rate,slums & ghettoes in every city,etc. etc.Can blacks ever assume some individual responsibility and stop blaming the white man for all their failures? Why are blacks so afraid to allow prof shockley & jensen's theory to be objectively presented to the american public?

Racial overtones and political correctness ooze from this one posters threads! When blacks study their african heritage, most of them are ashamed & embarrassed--there is absolutely nothing to be proud of!

Billy Gray never amounted to anything when fkb cease production in 1960. He should be happy to have been part of that show and stop ridiculing it!

I think your analizing this show to much. It was meant for people to sit down to and watch with their families. After working their bottems off all day, I don't think parents want to see the same thing for thirty minutes. Most people want to relax for a while.

And all sitcoms are unreal. In real life, you don't discover you're alergic to a dog, and then go to the Grand Canyon the next week, get lost, get found by an indian, and become a brave! I know I wouldn't want to come home and see them being a normal family! I could just look around me and do that!

Well said! Stop analyzing it and just enjoy it for what it was, pure entertainment that like most television series, doesn't depict reality 100%.

I agree with ficlopri! The show was very false display of life. I am a little biased though, cause I am kind of against the silly 50's whole television family thing. JMHO. Major snaps, ficlopri! you all are free to love the show, I don't wanna totally diss the show, like ficlopri did, sorry fic, but you are majorly hating on this show.:talk: :cool: :) :p :wave: By the way flapjax, how are you going to talk for African Americans! Im not black, but if I was, I would think you are racist for calling the Cosby Show a not accurate display of negro? families. Negro? umm.. this isn't 1950 when it was considered okay do be called that, but that word's a liiiiittle out of date. They are offended just as I am offended when people say i have no brains, but just blond hair and a nice face it pissis me off!!:mad: that all i have to say.

Originally posted by Lisa Hains
Get a grip! It's tv - entertainment - not a documentary of life in the 50's. Actually, I grew up in a house and a community that looked quite a bit like the setting of fkb. I will be glad to see that show again on tvland. Especially, during these tough times - it will be nice to escape to.

I'm really glad someone agrees with me! FKB was an idealistic not a realistic sitcom. We were supposed to try to immitate those ideals- Gee wouldn't it be great if people were really like the Andersons! Nice world!!

Originally posted by Lisa Hains
I agree, ficlopri must have had a very sad childhood - I am sorry. But, the fact is tv is entertainment, esp. sitcoms. Try to remember that. We didn't start hearing about hormones, sex etc. until much later than the 50's and 60's. Try to just enjoy. Personally, to me, it is nice not to hear about sex and violence sometimes. At the time this series aired, It was a different time and era. You didn't hear about all the stuff you hear about today. If you ask me alot of stuff today is negative and distorts peoples minds. Personally I long for the simpler days. These shows were simple and catered to the viewing audience of that era. :D

I always loved watching old tv shows from 50s and 60s as a form of escapism. Like the kids in the movie Pleasantville, sometimes you feel going somewhere else when you're life gets too crazy! Relax and enjoy.

Originally posted by flapjax
Father Knows Best more accurately depicted a white christian family of the 50's than the cosby show did of a negro family in the 80's!

If a television program accurately depicted the role black people have played in america, you would hear constant screaming & whining plus cries of racism, ad nauseum.They are always presented as 'victims' and never held accountable for the problems they have created and caused i.e.crime, deterioration of public schools, over 50% illegitimate birth rate,slums & ghettoes in every city,etc. etc.Can blacks ever assume some individual responsibility and stop blaming the white man for all their failures? Why are blacks so afraid to allow prof shockley & jensen's theory to be objectively presented to the american public?

Racial overtones and political correctness ooze from this one posters threads! When blacks study their african heritage, most of them are ashamed & embarrassed--there is absolutely nothing to be proud of!

Billy Gray never amounted to anything when fkb cease production in 1960. He should be happy to have been part of that show and stop ridiculing it!

Bigot!! I am white and still I don't know how much more offended I could be. Everything you just said was the most dumb ass thing Ive ever read on this board!! Yeah, you are a racist, and Im not just saying that to be what you would call "politically correct"! Im saying it becuase you f*cking are! You Archie Bunker!!lol. If anyone says to me that I don't know that, how the hell do you explain him calling Black people all this! My b.f. is half Black, and you are in some of your ramble saying that Blacks aren't human, by saying that if they look at their heritage, they would find nothing to be proud of! You dumb ass sorry ass bitch!! ( and I can say that too, cuz Im white lol). Im sorry, but you suck flapjax, you seriously suck dick you racist hillbilly!! Go back to doing your great great uncle, who's 100 years old, and still goes around buying prostitutes for his sexual pleasure!! Go say it to yo mama's tampon cuz aint no body else gonna listen! And now that I've calmed back down.....
Thank you, :) :)
tcbubblegrl (AKA-Courtney the pretty, blonde bimbo!(jk Not a bimbo!:D)

Originally posted by tcbubblegrl

Bigot!! I am white and still I don't know how much more offended I could be. Everything you just said was the most dumb ass thing Ive ever read on this board!! Yeah, you are a racist, and Im not just saying that to be what you would call "politically correct"! Im saying it becuase you freakin are! You Archie Bunker!!lol. If anyone says to me that I don't know that, how the hell do you explain him calling Black people all this! My b.f. is half Black, and you are in some of your ramble saying that Blacks aren't human, by saying that if they look at their heritage, they would find nothing to be proud of! You dumb ass!! ( and I can say that too, cuz Im white lol). Im sorry, but you suck flapjax, you seriously suck you racist hick!!
Thank you,
tcbubblegrl (AKA-Courtney the pretty, blonde bimbo!jk Not a bimbo!:D

Yeah!!!!I agree with what she said!Your name should be Flarchie Junker the unlikeable Bigot!!

Nevermind

Originally posted by Lisa Hains
To strange man or woman, ficlopri, (where did you get such a strange name?) I have read though your statistics. Yes, it is true that until the mid-60's most races did not appear on television. I'm sorry for that. But, you must get a grip and enjoy the show. It's kind, it's nice. Since the attacks, I have no desire to watch shoot 'em ups, violence, etc. I want a kinder gentler place to go to to escape once in a while. I don't know if you have children or not, but all that has happened is very sad to me. I keep thinking that my children will grow up in such a different world. Yes, we baby boomers faced drills under the desks, but we had never seen a homeland attack like we have now. In summing up, give us a break and let us enjoy a nice time in our lives. When it comes back on, I urge you to watch and try to gain a little peace in your life.

Hi Lisa!
I think Ficlopri is just trying to push our buttons. As long as there are people like us out there we don't have to worry about people like "Ficcy". You would be surprised how many folks enjoy FKB and other 50's sitcoms! I know without a doubt that 911 couldn't have occured during that period of our US history. Remember getting on an airplane without the hassle? We didn't make as much money then but we sure had everything we needed. At the risk of being branded a reactionary, I wish we could return to those simpler times.
Thanks for your comments.

echs4168









:lol: :lol:

I guess Father Knows Best was pretty phony, give me a realistic show like Cosby where you have a tipical black family, mother a lawyer and the father a doctor. Now that's realizm.

Hi Bobandrun,

I agree with you 100% that the Bill Cosby show is more real! But like I said originally, FKB is entertainment, and at least I don't want to be entertained with an hour long dose of reality. FKB tried to stroke our ideals (good thing!). I mean who wouldn't want to be a member of such great family! If you're really interested in reality though, just check out the real lives of the characters.

echs4168
PS: What's the difference anyway, TV land is canceling the show!!

Wake up, they were actually families like the Andersons in the 50's. If this country gets to be 1,000,000,000,000,000 years old
there will never be a black family like the Cosbys. FKB was a reflection of the times. Of course, there are always exceptions. But for the most part, that's what it was like for us middle class white urban folks. And watching reruns of the show bring back memories of a much better time. Sorry that you probably weren't there.:D

BOBAND RUN,

Are you real? I'm agreeing with you (you said the Cosby show was real, and you would rather watch it than FKB). Reread my reply to your comments. Bye

echs4168

When I said Cosby was real, I was being facetious. A word you will obviously need to look up:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I thought all TV was real. Hehe!

good one stinky!!!

Mr. Bobandrun,

Don't get mad, just be a little clearer with your comments. By the way I didn't misspell realism and typical, so I don't need the dictionary. Really though, we're on the same side so let's just leave it at that and save our hostility for the enemy. Friends?

echs4168:)

Dear ECHS 4168

Friends.

:wave: :wave: :wave:

I was watching a show on A+E last about Father Knows Best and other old and mre recent tv shows and they said that Robert Young had syphilis when he was on FKB and went crazy in his old age. Jim Anderson could never have had that problem.

Originally posted by ficlopri
I was watching a show on A+E last about Father Knows Best and other old and mre recent tv shows and they said that Robert Young had syphilis when he was on FKB and went crazy in his old age. Jim Anderson could never have had that problem.

Hello Ficopri,

I don't think Robert Young had any STD's. Especially the one you mentioned, because the man lived well into his 90's. Let's let him rest in peace, the peace he portrayed for us in all his shows: FKB, Dr Marcus Welby, etc.

Originally posted by ficlopri
I was watching a show on A+E last about Father Knows Best and other old and mre recent tv shows and they said that Robert Young had syphilis when he was on FKB and went crazy in his old age. Jim Anderson could never have had that problem.

So what's your point, Ficklepoop? That Robert Young had a sex life and you don't?

Originally posted by BOBANDRUN
Wake up, they were actually families like the Andersons in the 50's. If this country gets to be 1,000,000,000,000,000 years old
there will never be a black family like the Cosbys. FKB was a reflection of the times. Of course, there are always exceptions. But for the most part, that's what it was like for us middle class white urban folks. And watching reruns of the show bring back memories of a much better time. Sorry that you probably weren't there.:D There will never be a black family like the Cosbys???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HOOOOOOWWWWW BIGOTED CAN YOU GET!!???!!!!??!! I know 1! My friend is black, she's wealthy. Wow, i guess you were wrong huh?

ignore

why are u so racist BOBANDRUM? I'd like to have u know this "white, blonde haired blue eyed, all american girl" is in love with a blackguy.....just to push your racist buttons :D

Dear Bubblehead,

Apparently your friend is a lawyer and her husband is a doctor.

You didn't mention that.

[i] this "white, blonde haired blue eyed, all american girl" is in love with a blackguy.....just to push your racist buttons :D [/COLOR] [/B]

And what a shame, Bubbletits, that Michael Jackson won't even return your calls.

Originally posted by Robert Mitchum


And what a shame, Bubbletits, that Michael Jackson won't even return your calls. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......

no........

Such a sad attempt to be funny....no actually Micheal Jackson wont answer your mother's calls...but no problem for her, she knows youll always be there, I mean, she gives head to you, like, every nite so....

and dont EVER calls me BubbeTITS, Robert Bitchum k? thank ya, hon...

Hey Bubbletits.

You lack class is so many ways.

Originally posted by BOBANDRUN
Dear Bubblehead,

Apparently your friend is a lawyer and her husband is a doctor.

You didn't mention that. no her parents are.... so you see BLINGIN CUM or whatever ur name is, there ARE successful blacks, as well as, like hispanics.

Hey Bubbletits

Judging from the odious vile that comes forth from your mouth, one can only imagine what you allow to enter it.:eek2: