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Janice
02-15-2006, 11:18 PM
'Crash' May Pull Off Surprise Oscar Win


LOS ANGELES (AP) - Bad Academy Awards puns are flying. There's the "Brokeback backlash" ... the little film that "crashed" the party ... the one about "Brokeback Mountain" peaking too early.

While the cowboy love story "Brokeback Mountain" has been established as a solid favorite for the best-picture Oscar, the ensemble drama "Crash" has an ardent following and some late-season momentum that could make it a surprise winner.

When there's a clear Oscar front-runner, that film almost always goes home with the big trophy, but upsets do happen and late-surging films have pulled off come-from-behind wins.

Just look back to the 1998 awards season. "The year of 'Saving Private Ryan,' everybody was certain it was a lock," said film historian Leonard Maltin. "People thought it was a sure thing to win best picture given the subject matter (D-Day heroics) and the people behind it (Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks), until the middle of December."

That's when a little film called "Shakespeare in Love" showed up. Oscar voters, along with everyone else, fell in love with it, and while Spielberg won best director, "Shakespeare in Love" grabbed the top prize.

The previous 77 Oscar ceremonies have had their share of unexpected twists, mostly in the acting categories. The best-picture announcement often has proven an anticlimactic no-brainer at the end of the evening, yet a handful of unanticipated winners have shaken things up:

- For best picture of 1948, the poignant drama "Johnny Belinda," a homegrown Hollywood production, seemed to have the edge, only to lose to a British upstart, Laurence Olivier's "Hamlet."

- Three years later, the song-and-dance romance "An American in Paris" pulled off a best-picture stunner over dramatic heavyweights "A Place in the Sun" and "A Streetcar Named Desire."

- The next year, Gary Cooper's Western "High Noon" looked as though it would ride into the winner's circle, but the splashy circus tale "The Greatest Show on Earth" came out on top.

- The 1968 best-picture award went the musical route again as "Oliver!" became an upset winner over the more popular musical "Funny Girl" and the palace-intrigue saga "The Lion in Winter."

- And one of Oscar's biggest underdogs, the Olympics tale "Chariots of Fire," ran off with best picture for 1981 over the historical drama "Reds" and the family story "On Golden Pond."

This time around, most signs point to "Brokeback Mountain" - Ang Lee's tale of two rugged Western men (Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal) in a doomed love affair - as the likely best-picture champ.

Since it debuted in December, "Brokeback Mountain" has swept through awards season, winning best drama at the Golden Globes, snagging honors from top critics groups and earning prizes from guilds representing directors, writers and producers.

The film leads the Oscars with eight nominations, positioning it as the one to beat come March 5.

"Brokeback Mountain" has followed the same release pattern as 2004's Oscar champ, "Million Dollar Baby," starting in a handful of theaters and gradually expanding into wide release and box-office success on the strength of its awards buzz.

But "Crash" grabbed the prize for best overall cast performance at the Screen Actors Guild Awards, surprising some Oscar forecasters. Because of its supposed momentum, "Brokeback Mountain" had been considered a favorite there, too.

After the fact, though, the SAG honor made sense for "Crash" - its huge cast and multiple story lines are the virtual definition of an ensemble film. Directed by Paul Haggis, a 2004 Oscar nominee for the screenplay of "Million Dollar Baby,"

"Crash" features Sandra Bullock, Don Cheadle, Brendan Fraser, Terrence Howard, Thandie Newton and supporting-actor nominee Matt Dillon among dozens of characters whose lives intersect over a chaotic 36-hour stretch in Los Angeles.

"The reason we believe we have a great chance of actually winning the best-picture Oscar is because people are passionate about the movie," said Tom Ortenberg, president of Lionsgate Films, which released "Crash."

"With all due respect to the other best-picture nominees, all of which are terrific and of great merit, there's a sense that people admire and respect the other nominees, but they are passionate about 'Crash.'"

"Crash" took an unusual route to the Oscars, emerging out of the 2004 Toronto International Film Festival, where Lionsgate snapped up the film. The movie hit theaters last May and came out on DVD in September, defying conventional wisdom that films released early in the year get forgotten by Oscar time.

Lionsgate took the singular step of providing about 100,000 DVD copies of "Crash" to SAG members to ensure that as many as possible had seen the film before voting for the guild's awards. Distributors generally provide about 20,000 to 30,000 DVD copies of awards-contending films to academy members, key critics groups and voters in other Hollywood honors, but this was the first time a group as big as SAG was blanketed with DVDs of a movie.

Tom O'Neil of the awards Web site theenvelope.com said the SAG win was a sign that "Crash" could be picking up steam as a potential best-picture party-crasher among the Oscars' 5,800 voters.

"Brokeback Mountain" has become a cultural touchstone for Hollywood depictions of gay love affairs, yet the hubbub over the film may be growing stale as Oscar voters cast their final ballots, O'Neil said. And while "Brokeback Mountain" has become a solid box-office success, the gay theme may be off-putting to some Oscar voters, he said.

"Statistically, we know the vast majority of Oscar voters must be straight if they're at all representative of the general population," O'Neil said. "As much as they admire this movie, it may not feel like it's their movie. If there is homophobia in Hollywood, it could manifest itself there. Or they could just be sick of gay cowboy jokes."

James Schamus - a producer on "Brokeback Mountain" and co-president of Focus Features, which released the film - declined to comment on his movie's front-runner status or the prospects of "Crash" becoming an underdog spoiler.

Schamus, previously involved with such Oscar contenders as "The Pianist" and Lee's "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," said it's impossible to calculate a movie's awards fate based on such insubstantial notions as "momentum and peaking."

"That allows us to actually pretend we have some clue of what's going on," Schamus said. "But if you go back and do a statistical analysis of all that talk about momentum and whatever, then line it up against the outcome of the Oscars themselves, you'll find the relationship of those things is completely and utterly serendipitous. There's no cause and effect. There's no science to it."

And of course, there are three other worthy films in the best-picture race, the Truman Capote drama "Capote," the Edward R. Murrow tale "Good Night, and Good Luck" and the assassination thriller "Munich."

Along with "Crash," any one of those movies could pull off a win over "Brokeback Mountain," Maltin said. "Anyone who says that someone is a sure bet for an Oscar is a fool," Maltin said. "There's no such thing as a sure thing, least of all in a five-way vote."

Brad Russ
02-16-2006, 02:11 AM
I really want Crash to win bad!! I had no plans whatsoever of watching the Oscars, but now I'm thinking of taping them with the tv off, just in case Crash pulls off the upset. If it does win, it'll be pretty historic. That'll make it two best picture wins in a row for the screenwriter who wrote the film, along with last years winner, Million Dollar Baby, which he also wrote. I don't think that's ever been done before.

Brian Damage
02-16-2006, 12:25 PM
Crash deserves to win! The End!!!

Janice
02-16-2006, 12:56 PM
Crash deserves to win! The End!!!
:lol:

I thought of you when I posted this article.

LucyCompanyPhan
02-17-2006, 12:49 PM
I'd much rather see Munich pull off an upset or Goodnight and good luck for that matter. People who have seen Crash either love it or deeply hate it. I liked it but I don't think it should win if there is a huge cult following the hate around the film.

comedyfreak
02-18-2006, 06:17 AM
I think it's all politics and I don't trust the Academy, though I'd like Crash or Good Luck And Goodnight to win.

SBTB Geek
02-19-2006, 02:18 PM
"Crash" is just a better than average TV movie. "Munich" deserves the award.

Brad Russ
02-19-2006, 04:07 PM
"Crash" is just a better than average TV movie. "Munich" deserves the award.

I thought Munich was overrated myself. I definitely expected better from Spielberg!!

LucyCompanyPhan
02-19-2006, 04:17 PM
I thought Munich was overrated myself. I definitely expected better from Spielberg!!

What exactly didn't you like about it?

Brad Russ
02-19-2006, 04:47 PM
What exactly didn't you like about it?

It just seemed like your typical standard movie to me. I guess with it being Steven Spielberg and all, I just had really high expectations, and thought it would be another Color Purple, or Schindlers List, and when it didn't live up to that, I was disappointed. Also, I wish it would have dealt more with the actual Munich tragedy itself, and not just the aftermath. The first five or ten minutes had to do with the actual event that took place at Munich, but the rest of the film had to do with the revenge aspect, which I wasn't expecting. It also seemed a bit too long, and lacked the emotional impact that one would expect from a movie dealing with such heavy material. Overall, I thought it was a good three star movie, just not Oscar material.

LucyCompanyPhan
02-19-2006, 09:56 PM
It just seemed like your typical standard movie to me. I guess with it being Steven Spielberg and all, I just had really high expectations, and thought it would be another Color Purple, or Schindlers List, and when it didn't live up to that, I was disappointed. Also, I wish it would have dealt more with the actual Munich tragedy itself, and not just the aftermath. The first five or ten minutes had to do with the actual event that took place at Munich, but the rest of the film had to do with the revenge aspect, which I wasn't expecting. It also seemed a bit too long, and lacked the emotional impact that one would expect from a movie dealing with such heavy material. Overall, I thought it was a good three star movie, just not Oscar material.

I thought it was up there with best heavy dramas Schinder's List and Saving Private Ryan. I believe the movie is based on a novel. I loved alot of the themes that went along with it. The movie didn't choose sides and it gave you a good inside of how this war won't ever end the way it is going. The movie is very haunting and what struck me was how it left a lasting effect. It had me still thinking about it for days. It was very gritty and intense and each murder had me on the edge of my seat. I don't think Munich will win, but I was really happy to see it recognized for best picture. I think Brokeback Mountain needs to win just based on our society. I'm just happy this year is a very political one compared to last year's fluff. I do agree that Munich was long. You have to admit, Spielberg did a great job directing and the editing was good. I just loved the way it was filmed. Speilberg really takes something and makes it intense and powerful, even if it wasn't what you expected.

Brad Russ
02-19-2006, 11:41 PM
I thought it was up there with best heavy dramas Schinder's List and Saving Private Ryan. I believe the movie is based on a novel. I loved alot of the themes that went along with it. The movie didn't choose sides and it gave you a good inside of how this war won't ever end the way it is going. The movie is very haunting and what struck me was how it left a lasting effect. It had me still thinking about it for days. It was very gritty and intense and each murder had me on the edge of my seat. I don't think Munich will win, but I was really happy to see it recognized for best picture. I think Brokeback Mountain needs to win just based on our society. I'm just happy this year is a very political one compared to last year's fluff. I do agree that Munich was long. You have to admit, Spielberg did a great job directing and the editing was good. I just loved the way it was filmed. Speilberg really takes something and makes it intense and powerful, even if it wasn't what you expected.

Yeah, I totally respect your feelings, and those of other people who love this movie, and I'm glad it had such an impact on you all. Everyone who knows me, knows I don't go to the movie theatre unless I'm really excited about something, and I truly was excited about Munich, which is why I went. Like I said, I liked it, and if Crash doesn't win, hopefully it'll win. I just think there could have been things done a little differently that could have made it a little better. I'll watch it again though when it comes out on DVD, and maybe I'll have stronger feelings about it then. I do agree with you that it's good that the Academy is Picking more meaningful, and thought provoking films this year. I was hoping that would have started last year with The Passion, but oh well, can't have everything you want. Hopefully though this'll become a trend, and they'll focus more on these kinds of important films every year!!

LucyCompanyPhan
02-20-2006, 03:29 PM
Yeah, I totally respect your feelings, and those of other people who love this movie, and I'm glad it had such an impact on you all. Everyone who knows me, knows I don't go to the movie theatre unless I'm really excited about something, and I truly was excited about Munich, which is why I went. Like I said, I liked it, and if Crash doesn't win, hopefully it'll win. I just think there could have been things done a little differently that could have made it a little better. I'll watch it again though when it comes out on DVD, and maybe I'll have stronger feelings about it then. I do agree with you that it's good that the Academy is Picking more meaningful, and thought provoking films this year. I was hoping that would have started last year with The Passion, but oh well, can't have everything you want. Hopefully though this'll become a trend, and they'll focus more on these kinds of important films every year!!

I definately agree. Heres to good movies. Cheers!

Brian Damage
02-20-2006, 03:36 PM
I pray that Brokeback doesn't win.

Brad Russ
02-20-2006, 04:12 PM
I definately agree. Heres to good movies. Cheers!

:cheers:

Janice
02-22-2006, 01:39 AM
Q&A: Matt Dillon Crashes the Oscars

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NEW YORK (AP) - Out of the expansive, talented ensemble cast of Paul Haggis'"Crash," the Academy has yanked Matt Dillon, the rock-jawed former teen heartthrob.

Dillon's turn as a ferociously racist cop landed the 41-year-old actor his first Oscar nomination, and at the March 5 Oscar gala the statuette will go to either him, George Clooney ("Syriana"), Paul Giamatti ("Cinderella Man"), Jake Gyllenhaal ("Brokeback Mountain") or William Hurt ("A History of Violence").

Nominated for six Oscars including best picture, "Crash" details the impact of racism on colliding characters in Los Angeles. Though the cast includes Don Cheadle, Terrence Howard and Sandra Bullock, Dillon's menacing but humanistic police officer has been singled out more than any other.

After starting out in Hollywood as a teen star, Dillon expanded out of that mold beginning with Gus Van Sant's "Drugstore Cowboy" in 1989. He's since mixed dramatic roles ("To Die For,""Beautiful Girls") with comedic fare ("Singles,""There's Something About Mary.")

In August, he'll star in "Factotum," an adaptation of the Charles Bukowski novel, directed by Norwegian filmmaker Bent Hamer. Dillon plays the hard-drinking author's alter-ego, Henry Chinaski.

"Crash" is clearly a pinnacle of Dillon's career - though an unexpected one.
"It feels like it doesn't really have anything to do with me," he says, "except that I just showed up."
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AP: You've got to be the first actor nominated for an Oscar the same year as costarring in a movie about a living car ("Herbie: Fully Loaded").

Dillon: It's funny you should say that because I'd say at this point in my career I'm having a ball; I'm having a great time. I'm able to sit here and look at things and enjoy the surprises that come along. ... If you told me a little over three years ago when "City of Ghost" (Dillon's directorial debut) premiered at Toronto, "In three years time, things will be going great. You're going to be costarring with a Volkswagen in a movie" - I would have gotten a gun and shot myself. You just never know.


AP: A character like the one you play in "Crash" - who in one scene degrades a black couple (Howard and Thandie Newton) after pulling them over - has got to be uncomfortable to inhabit.

Dillon: That's kind of what I liked about it, though. It felt accurate to me. Now, I'm not a cop, but, in the few experiences I've had with the LAPD, these kind of aggressive police tactics were something that I recognized. So that didn't bother me so much. I don't worry about whether the character's likable; authenticity is more important. So here you have a guy who is this racist cop who is trying to get medical attention to his father, who's possibly dying, and is really a loving son. That juxtaposition was really interesting to me.


AP: Is the key to withhold judgment?

Dillon: Exactly. I had to find the humanity in the guy. To me, this character sees himself as the victim - that he's been done an injustice. The way the cards have played out for him: his sick father, his failed marriage, his misery and self-pity. For someone to get to that point, they must have fallen from a place where they had high ideals about the way the world was going to turn out. I don't think this guy joined the police force so he can enforce his power and degrade people. I think the character that you see at the end of the film - the scene where he pulls the black woman from the burning car - that's the guy who wanted to join the police force.


AP: Do you have a particular fondness for jaded characters?

Dillon: What do you mean? Junkies, drugstore robbers, alcoholics, skid-row poets, serial murders?! It's (a resume) not as bad as some, but worse than many.


AP: What's the attraction?

Dillon: I like doing character-based stuff. A character like Ryan (in "Crash") is so conflicted that it really makes for a character. I'm not really that comfortable doing lightweight stuff. There're times, I admit, I've seen things that I've done where I've been like 'That's sort of a wolf in sheep's clothes, and that's not who I am.' I'm just not the guy who can sit around making cute little jokes. I don't know, maybe I can, it just doesn't feel like it's the right thing. I like doing comedy, but I like doing comedy that's got some bite to it.


AP: You directed "City of Ghosts" in 2002. Do you want to direct again?

Dillon: Yeah. I'm writing something now, but it takes a while.


AP: You had some disappointment about the backing "City of Ghosts" received, didn't you?

Dillon: Yeah, it was disappointing the way it was released, but it doesn't matter in the end. What really disappoints me is that I'm not there (directing) right now. There's nothing that tops that. That's what I said to Haggis, "It's terrific all this stuff, these accolades and everything. But nothing beats when we were up there on the top of the hill in San Pedro, losing the light, Thandie (Newton) is upside down in the car, sliding around on broken glass, and I'm happy."

Janice
02-24-2006, 01:03 AM
I just watched Crash again. What an absolutely incredible, fantastic movie. I really hope Matt Dillon wins the Oscar.

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 12:27 AM
Hell Yes it won!!! All I've got to say is HALELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stella
03-06-2006, 12:31 AM
I posted this on another thread before but with tonight's Academy Awards outcome, I think it's appropriate to post an update here.

I guess if there is any one strong correlation between the Academy Awards that a movie will win, it would be that the film that wins best director is almost a shoe-in for the best picture award as well. In past years, the vast majority of movies that won best director won best picture as well. However, there have been several exceptions as of late, and tonight was yet another exception that there can no longer be a strong correlation between the two awards. Here are the exceptions since 1967:

Year / Best Picture Movie / Best Director Movie (Director)

1967 / In the Heat of the Night / The Graduate (Mike Nichols)

1972 / The Godfather / Cabaret (Bob Fosse)

1981 / Chariots of Fire / Reds (Warren Beatty)

1989 / Driving Miss Daisy / Born on the Fourth of July (Oliver Stone)

1998 / Shakespeare in Love / Saving Private Ryan (Steven Spielberg)

2000 / Gladiator / Traffic (Steven Soderbergh)

2002 / Chicago / The Pianist (Roman Polanski)

2005 / Crash / Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee)

Mr. Television
03-06-2006, 12:49 AM
I posted this on another thread before but with tonight's Academy Awards outcome, I think it's appropriate to post an update here.

I guess if there is any one strong correlation between the Academy Awards that a movie will win, it would be that the film that wins best director is almost a shoe-in for the best picture award as well. In past years, the vast majority of movies that won best director won best picture as well. However, there have been several exceptions as of late, and tonight was yet another exception that there can no longer be a strong correlation between the two awards. Here are the exceptions since 1967:

Year / Best Picture Movie / Best Director Movie (Director)

1967 / In the Heat of the Night / The Graduate (Mike Nichols)

1972 / The Godfather / Cabaret (Bob Fosse)

1981 / Chariots of Fire / Reds (Warren Beatty)

1989 / Driving Miss Daisy / Born on the Fourth of July (Oliver Stone)

1998 / Shakespeare in Love / Saving Private Ryan (Steven Spielberg)

2000 / Gladiator / Traffic (Steven Soderbergh)

2002 / Chicago / The Pianist (Roman Polanski)

2005 / Crash / Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee)
Very true. After Ang Lee won , I was shocked that Brokeback Mountain didn't win best picture. I like surprises like this though. :lol:

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2006, 12:51 AM
Expect a huge Crash blacklash. I liked the movie but I'd consider it the weakest of those nominated. Brokeback needed to win & it should have. Oh well.

USTVFanFromUK
03-06-2006, 01:10 AM
Hell Yes it won!!! All I've got to say is HALELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God, it's just fu**ing award, you act as if your health depended upon Brokeback Mountain losing the Oscar. :rolleyes:

Seriously, you need a life if you care so passionately about something as trivial as this.

Mr. Television
03-06-2006, 01:13 AM
Expect a huge Crash blacklash. I liked the movie but I'd consider it the weakest of those nominated. Brokeback needed to win & it should have. Oh well.
What are they going to do...take back the award? :lol: It's been done. Their's been other years that an upset winner has won but it doesn't really matter because once they win, it's theirs for all time.

USTVFanFromUK
03-06-2006, 01:17 AM
Now, I thought Crash deserved to win the Oscar too because I thought it had a more engaging storyline and better ensemble cast than Brokeback Mountain. However, I do not agree with certain morons who thought it should've lost at the beginning because it contains a homosexual theme, when in most cases they've never seen the film for that reason alone. I would be just as happy if Brokeback won the Oscar as I am about Crash winning it.

PrettyinPink55
03-06-2006, 01:18 AM
GO CRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2006, 01:29 AM
What are they going to do...take back the award? :lol: It's been done. Their's been other years that an upset winner has won but it doesn't really matter because once they win, it's theirs for all time.

If you pay attention to the general public opinion, especially those who are deeply engrossed in film, Crash had two major followings of people. Those that loved it and those that hated it. It's pretty much cut & dry, you're with it or against it. If you ever check out the rottentomatoes.com forums, the forums have actually crashed no pun intented based on the backlash going on there. Thats what I meant when I said blacklash, just alot of people are going to like this film less based on that it won. It happens every year, but this year in particular because it was an upset over Brokeback Mountain.

Crash is sitting at #11 out of about 60 films I've seen this year which is a very good place but I obviously had films ranked higher. My favorite nominated movie was Munich but I really thought Brokeback Mountain should have won based on how our society is today.

I think the biggest mistake this year by the academy was Amy Adams not winning for Junebug. Anyone who has seen it, knows that she did have the best performances of her catagory.

At least they got Clooney & Reese right.

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 01:29 AM
God, it's just fu**ing award, you act as if your health depended upon Brokeback Mountain losing the Oscar. :rolleyes:

Seriously, you need a life if you care so passionately about something as trivial as this.

Hey Tim, go **** yourself you wanna be Limey. :lol:

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 01:31 AM
At least they got Clooney & Reese right.

Actually Matt Dillon should've won..oh well.

USTVFanFromUK
03-06-2006, 01:32 AM
Hey Tim, go **** yourself you wanna be Limey.


First off, I've been posting here for a few years and my name wasn't Tim then and it isn't now.

And you should go **** yourself for acting like starved lab mouse. What sane person cares so much about a movie winning an award? I thought Hollywood didn't mean jack **** to you conservatives since it doesn't represent your country as a whole.


oh yeah and once more **** YOU!

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 01:35 AM
First off, I've been posting here for a few years and my name wasn't Tim then and it isn't now.

And you should go **** yourself for acting like starved lab mouse. What sane person cares so much about a movie winning an award? I thought Hollywood didn't mean jack **** to you conservatives since it doesn't represent your country as a whole.


oh yeah and once more **** YOU!


It's your country too, Tim. You shouldn't be bothered by what I say seeing as I am a conservative. Interesting you should know that about me seeing as I never talk to you Tim. Hmmmmm

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2006, 01:36 AM
Actually Matt Dillon should've won..oh well.


Actually even though Crash had a strong cast, the acting was one of its weak points. It got its best original script award, what it did deserve. Too bad that wasn't enough.


What sane person cares so much about a movie winning an award? I thought Hollywood didn't mean jack **** to you conservatives since it doesn't represent your country as a whole.


What sane person would flip out so much about someone being happy about a movie winning.

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 01:38 AM
What sane person would flip out so much about someone being happy about a movie winning.


Don't worry about him, it's an alter ego. The other one doesn't have the balls to confront me himself.

USTVFanFromUK
03-06-2006, 01:42 AM
It's your country too, Tim. You shouldn't be bothered by what I say seeing as I am a conservative. Interesting you should know that about me seeing as I never talk to you Tim. Hmmmmm


Yeah, I like how I'm supposed to be this Tim guy when you have no circumstantial proof of that. Then again, I wouldn't expect much mental and intellectual development out of a man who was about commit suicide out of a ****ing movie that might have won an Oscar for Best Picture.

Now, I'm off to slit my wrists because Paris Hilton won a Razzie for Worst Supporting Actress? Oh, however will I deal with this?!?!?!?

And one more thing, I'm not American, genius.

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2006, 01:46 AM
You're the one who actually knows that Paris Hilton won a Razzie.

USTVFanFromUK
03-06-2006, 01:49 AM
You're the one who actually knows that Paris Hilton won a Razzie.

If you'd like the complete list of Razzie winners, here they are.

Cruise and Holmes named "most tiresome"
By Mark Egan


LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - And the losers are? Tom Cruise and his fiance Katie Holmes.

Cruise who starred in last year's blockbuster hit "War of the Worlds" and his pregnant partner Holmes won the Razzie award on Saturday for "most tiresome tabloid targets."

The Razzies, which parody self-congratulatory Hollywood award shows such as the Oscars by roasting the worst of Tinseltown, this year added the "most tiresome" category to salute "the celebs we're ALL sick and tired of."

The couple, known as TomKat, won for their tabloid dominance. Cruise professed his love for the actress on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" last May where he jumped up and down on a sofa like a man possessed.

Cruise's behavior spawned the slang "jump the couch," meaning the moment when you know someone has gone off the deep end, or as one Razzie presenter put it, "the day when his rabies vaccine ran out."

Cruise then proposed to Holmes in June in Paris and announced their engagement at a news conference, prompting talk it was all a publicity stunt to promote their summer films.

Razzie presenters joked in Hollywood jargon about Holmes' pregnancy, calling it "their first collaboration to go into pre-production."

Cruise, a member of the Church of Scientology which eschews psychiatry, was also roasted for his attack on psychiatry and anti-depressant drugs made on NBC's "Today" show last June.

Cruise, like other winners at Saturday's ceremony, "couldn't be here tonight to accept the award."

"How bad a year did Hollywood have?" founder John Wilson asked in his opening monologue. "To hear them tell it, only the residents of Baghdad, the residents of New Orleans and one particular resident of Crawford, Texas, had a worse year in 2005 than the folks of Tinseltown."

Despite a surfeit of awful films and dwindling box office takings, Wilson said, "The Academy of Motion Pictures Farts and Scientologists" would still give out Oscars on Sunday.

By far the worst movie of the year was "Dirty Love," a movie written by and starring former Playboy model Jenny McCarthy, which took four honors.

Billed by its producers as a "modern day Cinderella story," the movie grossed just $58,116 and was drubbed by critics.

It won worst picture and McCarthy won worst actress and worst screenplay. McCarthy's former husband John Mallory Asher won worst director at the mock movie awards show in Hollywood.

"Even by the standards of its bottom-feeding genre, 'Dirty Love' clings to the gutter like a rat in garbage," film critic Stephen Holden wrote in The New York Times.

Cruise was also nominated as worst actor but was trumped by Rob Schneider, the star of "Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo."

Hayden Christensen, who has won worst supporting actor once before for playing Anakin Skywalker, who grows up to be Darth Vader, won again for playing the same character in "Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith."

Paris Hilton, described by the Razzies as being the "notorious air-headed heiress," won worst supporting actress for her death scene in "House of Wax."

Rounding out the Razzies, "Son of the Mask" won worst sequel and Will Ferrell and Nicole Kidman were worst screen couple for their "less-than-bewitching chemistry" in "Bewitched."

The Razzies are given by the Golden Raspberry Award Foundation, which was formed to toast the worst of films, 24 hours before the Oscars tout the best.



There! Now the whole world will know this joyous news!!!!

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 01:49 AM
Yeah, I like how I'm supposed to be this Tim guy when you have no circumstantial proof of that. Then again, I wouldn't expect much mental and intellectual development out of a man who was about commit suicide out of a ****ing movie that might have won an Oscar for Best Picture.

Now, I'm off to slit my wrists because Paris Hilton won a Razzie for Worst Supporting Actress? Oh, however will I deal with this?!?!?!?

And one more thing, I'm not American, genius.


Yes you are, it is just a cover up. You are a ******** ass yes, but to treat other as such is laughable.

USTVFanFromUK
03-06-2006, 01:55 AM
Yes you are, it is just a cover up. You are a ******** ass yes, but to treat other as such is laughable.


Whatever, believe what you want to believe. Hell, did you ever try looking at my prior posts before this thread? Oh well, it's not even worth my time anymore to reply to a man who would force himself to develop cancer had Brokeback Mountain won the Oscar for Best Picture.

Oh and thanks for last night, it's ok you can let the rest of SO know your ignorace towards homosexuality was just a facade to cover-up your true tendencies!

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2006, 01:58 AM
No, thank you. I don't really wish to read about the worse movies of the year. You're the one going out of your way to post that and arguing with someone for no reason. Really, you have no argument here.

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 02:00 AM
Whatever, believe what you want to believe. Hell, did you ever try looking at my prior posts before this thread? Oh well, it's not even worth my time anymore to reply to a man who would force himself to develop cancer had Brokeback Mountain won the Oscar for Best Picture.

Oh and thanks for last night, it's ok you can let the rest of SO know your ignorace towards homosexuality was just a facade to cover-up your true tendencies!


Oh you got me! Ziiiiing! I'm living a lie. :lol: You are right, you aren't who I say you are. You actually live in the UK and watched the Oscars and stayed up till 6am England time to respond to my posts. I apologize. LOL

USTVFanFromUK
03-06-2006, 02:01 AM
No, thank you. I don't really wish to read about the worse movies of the year. You're the one going out of your way to post that and arguing with someone for no reason. Really, you have no argument here.


Yes, I like how my posts were directed towards YOU. :rolleyes:

An argument is an argument, plain and simple.

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2006, 02:05 AM
Yes, I like how my posts were directed towards YOU. :rolleyes:

An argument is an argument, plain and simple.

and yours would be.....

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 02:18 AM
Anyway...Crash definitely was an upset. I do feel that Don Cheadle should've at least been nominated. He was good in his role.

Brian
03-06-2006, 03:08 AM
Brian you were way out of line. I don't care what USTVFanFromUK said, you do not tell a member to go **** himself, especially when you're a moderator. What you did was worse.

Brian Damage
03-06-2006, 09:43 AM
But I'm sure he'll get away with it.

Just like I thought it was against the rules to accuse a member of being someone else.


Suspend me, ban me, at least I'm not going to cry about it like certain other people on this board.

Brad Russ
03-06-2006, 02:26 PM
I'm so happy that Crash won!!!!!! Even Ebert and Roeper hoped it would win, and I never agree with them on anything. LOL!! Congratulations Crash. You are officially the overall best film of 2005!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

2005's Best Picture: Crash!!!

staypuftman2004
03-06-2006, 04:19 PM
yeah i was glad to hear that on the radio this morning

LucyCompanyPhan
03-06-2006, 05:31 PM
I wouldn't officially call it that.

Janice
03-06-2006, 05:42 PM
The Academy officially voted it as the Best Movie of 2005.

Mr. Television
03-06-2006, 05:54 PM
That is true. Whether you like it or not Crash will forever be known as the best picture of 2005.

Brad Russ
03-06-2006, 06:15 PM
I wouldn't officially call it that.

Well, officially or not, it was a great film, and a great surprise to all the dedicated fans of this movie. After several years of disappointment, my faith in the Oscars has actually been restored a little bit.

Brian
03-06-2006, 09:32 PM
Before anyone gets on my case I just want to make one thing clear. I do not condone posts like UKs. But I do not like it when people tell someone to **** himself. To me that is ten times worse than what UK originally said. That is why I said what Brian did was worse. I should have made it clear instead of just saying "what Brian did was worse," which apparently left out the fact to some members that UK wasn't out of line. I apologize.

Back on topic.

TJL
03-06-2006, 09:43 PM
Well I guess now I'll have to rent it and see for myself.

One of John Stewart's best lines last night:

"Okay, raise your hand if you weren't in Crash."

:lol:

Brad Russ
03-06-2006, 09:48 PM
Well I guess now I'll have to rent it and see for myself.

One of John Stewart's best lines last night:

"Okay, raise your hand if you weren't in Crash."

:lol:

I must have missed that part. That is pretty funny. :lol:

Cactus Jack
03-06-2006, 10:12 PM
Well I guess now I'll have to rent it and see for myself.

One of John Stewart's best lines last night:

"Okay, raise your hand if you weren't in Crash."

:lol:
:brent He was an awesome host oh how I LOVE Jon Stewart I tohught he was AWESOME

LucyCompanyPhan
03-07-2006, 12:13 AM
I liked Crash, but its more of an melodrama compared to the other very intelligent political films of the year. Basically Brokeback Mountain was sacraficed for the crowd pleaser of the year.

I think the Oscars are more important for actors and directors because it gives something to their name and can open doors for them and credit them. Winning Best Picture is only a title for that particular movie. It doesn't mean it was the public's favorite film of the year, it just means that out of the group of people representing the academy, that is what they choose.

If you want to be politically correct here, Brokeback Mountain would be considered the best film of the year considering it won about 10 other major award shows including Indie Awards and the Golden Globes. Brokeback took home more best picture awards than Crash, Crash just upset the "grand daddy of them all"

I liked Crash (my #11 of the year) but the main reason why it shouldn't have won is that there is a huge huge following that love the film and then a huge huge following that absolutely hate the film. Basically I think that if something is going to be awarded best picture, there shouldn't be such a huge ladder of the two.

Overall, Crash winning doesn't kill me. It doesn't change the world. If my 11th favorite film beats my 2nd or 5th, it could be worse.

Brad Russ
03-07-2006, 12:37 AM
I liked Crash, but its more of an melodrama compared to the other very intelligent political films of the year. Basically Brokeback Mountain was sacraficed for the crowd pleaser of the year.

I respect your opinion totally, but I don't think Brokeback was sacrificed at all. There were many critics who liked this film more than Crash, and there were many who didn't. For example, two of the worlds top critics, Roger Ebert and Richard Roeper, both thought Crash was the number one, and number 3 best film of the year, and thought it should have won for best picture, as did other critics.

I know you thought the acting in Brokeback was better than in Crash, but obviously many people didn't. I believe Crash won simply because the Academy thought it was the best film.

I don't think Crash was necessarily the crowd pleaser of the year either. Brokeback is still in theatres, and has already made 17 million more than Crash did theatrically, and Iv'e heard more positive things about Brokeback, than any film in recent memory. Even if it were the bigger crowd pleaser, since when has that ever influenced the Academy's decision??

Look at 1998 when Shakespeare in Love won over the huge crowd pleaser, Saving Private Ryan. It's like you mentioned in that thread I started a few days ago. One of the good things about the Oscars, is that they're not so predictable, and occasionally a Shakespeare in Love can pull off an upset against a more popular film. That's part of the fun of watching.

Mr. Television
03-07-2006, 12:40 AM
I respect your opinion totally, but I don't think Brokeback was sacrificed at all. There were many critics who liked this film more than Crash, and there were many who didn't. For example, two of the worlds top critics, Roger Ebert and Richard Roeper, both thought Crash was the number one, and number 3 best film of the year, and thought it thought it should win for best picture, as did other critics. I know you thought the acting in Brokeback was better than in Crash, but obviously many people didn't, myself included. I believe Crash won simply because the Academy thought it was the best film. And I don't think Crash was necessarily the crowd pleaser of the year. Brokeback made17 million more than Crash theatrically, and Iv'e heard more positive things about it, then any film in recent memory. Even if it was the bigger crowd pleaser though, since when has that ever influenced the Academies decision?? Look at 1998 when Shakespeare in Love won over the huge crowd pleaser Saving Private Ryan. It's like you mentioned in that particular thread, the good thing about the Oscars is that they're not so predictable, and occasionally a Shakespeare in Love can pull off an upset against a more popular film. That's part of the fun of watching.
not to mention Annie Hall beating out Star Wars in 1977. Now which movie are people still talking about over 25 years later? It doesn't matter because their always is a prestige associated with a best picture winner.

TJL
03-07-2006, 06:32 PM
not to mention Annie Hall beating out Star Wars in 1977. Now which movie are people still talking about over 25 years later? It doesn't matter because their always is a prestige associated with a best picture winner.

Star Wars was the breakout film phenom of 77 no doubt, but I can understand Annie Hall winning the Oscar. Annie Hall is still a great film. And this is coming from a Diehard Star Wars fan.

"Episode III Revenge Of The Sith" was the highest grossing film of 2005, but it got what one nomination for BEST MAKEUP!

Not for nothing, but there were only THREE films nominated for outstanding visual effects - why the f**k couldn't you give one to Star Wars?
Did Price/Waterhouse run out of ink for the envelopes?

;)