View Full Version : It bothers me that Police gets away with killing people


TVFactFan
01-24-2006, 11:33 AM
I can't stand the police in philadelphia. If there is a police chase they will kill the guy they are chasing and say-"He waved a gun at us". Now we all know that is a bunch of bullsh*T. But when a father wanted the police to break down his daughter's apt door because he feared she was being killed, the police response was-"well i don;t think we can do that sir". But then the police have no problem breaking down a door of a massage palor. I HATE POLICE OFFICERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MsOrange
01-24-2006, 11:35 AM
there are defintley some corrupt ones

TVFactFan
01-24-2006, 11:40 AM
there are defintley some corrupt ones


And what kind of praise do police officers think they deserve for kicking down the door of a massage palor?-lol

Sterling Holobyte
01-24-2006, 12:05 PM
Hey, just because they broke up your little tête-à-tête at the "massage" parlor don't condemn all police officers.;)

TVFactFan
01-24-2006, 12:12 PM
Hey, just because they broke up your little tête-à-tête at the "massage" parlor don't condemn all police officers.;)

LOL-not I was not there but I just don;t think it's worth mentioning on TV news that police officers busted a massage palor. I mean who really cares.

gilligan fanatic
01-24-2006, 01:38 PM
In my area there is not that much crime or cops at all. I read in my newspaper that the average cop in my area uses a gun once in his entire career if he stays in my area the whole time. All my police officers do is pull people over for speeding and stuff like that.

G-Force Glockstar
01-24-2006, 05:34 PM
I don't like 'em either!

Lee
01-24-2006, 08:52 PM
There are some corrupt police officers, but there are scores of fine police officers out there who
perform their duty with honor and with pride. And there are instances where police officers have
to use deadly force on people, including people who aim weapons at them at the end of a
vehicle chase.

AD FAN
01-25-2006, 01:46 AM
It bothers me that people get away with killing police.

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 02:04 AM
It bothers me that people get away with killing police.
Bingo!!!!
It angers me that a police officer pulls over someone for speeding and that officer gets blown away.

It angers me when a cop goes to the home of a suspected gang member to arrest them and that officer gets blown away.

It angers me when a police officer is called to a home to settle a "problem" and that officer gets blown away.

It angers me when a police officer is riding his motorcycle and gets hit by a drunk driver and that officer dies, but the drunk driver is not hurt.

It angers me when a police officer is off duty, and she sees a robbery taking place, and as she is trying to help, is shot and killed.

It angers me when people call the cops when they need help, but they hate the cops when they don't want them to do their job.

It angers me when gang members won't go to war for our country, but they would go to war with their own people in their own hometown for a stupid street that isn't theirs to begin with; for drugs; for money; for a stupid gang.

It angers me when a cop is killed and he/she leaves behind a family.

It angers me when a cop goes after a murder suspect and puts his/her life on the line and they get told crap for petty crap.

It angers me that many police officers were killed on September 11, 2001 while trying to help those who were inside the World Trade Centers:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/memorial_01.html

Lexx82
01-25-2006, 02:58 AM
but 9 out of 10 times its always a "mistake" or the police could of prevented the situation from happening

yeah it sucks when sum1 shoots and kills a cop...thats totally wrong...but its also totally wrong where a cop mistakes a freakin wallet for a gun and there are just wayyyyy tooo many mistakes going on like "it looked like this" or "i thought he was a suspect"....what happens then?????....and 99.9 percent its a minority being shot and killed or being brutally beatin down

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 03:03 AM
but 9 out of 10 times its always a "mistake" or the police could of prevented the situation from happening

yeah it sucks when sum1 shoots and kills a cop...thats totally wrong...but its also totally wrong where a cop mistakes a freakin wallet for a gun and there are just wayyyyy tooo many mistakes going on like "it looked like this" or "i thought he was a suspect"....what happens then?????....and 99.9 percent its a minority being shot and killed or being brutally beatin down
Excuse me, but a cop is not Superman or any other superhero, he or she is human. They only have a split second to determine whether someone is reaching for a gun...they can't always wait and see if that wallet, that wrench, that fake toy gun IS A REAL GUN. They don't have super hero vision. I wish they did, then there wouldn't be any question. But if I had a gun and I was walking down the street and someone was behaving in a weird fashion and appeared to reach for something, I am going to do what I think will SAVE MY LIFE.
Before you make up a statistic like 99 whatever, it would be best to be accurate and give a statistic abt how many people walk around with guns that SHOULDN'T BE CARRYING THEM TO BEGIN WITH. I feel safer with a cop carrying a gun, then those stupid ass gang members who wouldn't go to war for our country, but they would kill innocent people for "turf" !!!!

MsOrange
01-25-2006, 08:07 AM
but 9 out of 10 times its always a "mistake" or the police could of prevented the situation from happening

yeah it sucks when sum1 shoots and kills a cop...thats totally wrong...but its also totally wrong where a cop mistakes a freakin wallet for a gun and there are just wayyyyy tooo many mistakes going on like "it looked like this" or "i thought he was a suspect"....what happens then?????....and 99.9 percent its a minority being shot and killed or being brutally beatin down
can you show some proof on your numbers (9 out of 10? 99.9% is minority)? Otherwise, that was just a mindless rant.

TVFactFan
01-25-2006, 11:34 AM
There are some corrupt police officers, but there are scores of fine police officers out there who
perform their duty with honor and with pride. And there are instances where police officers have
to use deadly force on people, including people who aim weapons at them at the end of a
vehicle chase.


The point is no one is aiming nothing at the police officers at the end of a chase.

TVFactFan
01-25-2006, 11:36 AM
Excuse me, but a cop is not Superman or any other superhero, he or she is human. They only have a split second to determine whether someone is reaching for a gun...they can't always wait and see if that wallet, that wrench, that fake toy gun IS A REAL GUN. They don't have super hero vision. I wish they did, then there wouldn't be any question. But if I had a gun and I was walking down the street and someone was behaving in a weird fashion and appeared to reach for something, I am going to do what I think will SAVE MY LIFE.
Before you make up a statistic like 99 whatever, it would be best to be accurate and give a statistic abt how many people walk around with guns that SHOULDN'T BE CARRYING THEM TO BEGIN WITH. I feel safer with a cop carrying a gun, then those stupid ass gang members who wouldn't go to war for our country, but they would kill innocent people for "turf" !!!!



Well maybe the cops in other cities are different but here in philly they will KILL as long as they can get away with it.

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 02:43 PM
The point is no one is aiming nothing at the police officers at the end of a chase.
and no one comes out of their car immediately after a car chase with their hands in the air either.

a cop doesn't know if someone in the vehicle is armed with one gun, a rifle, a grenade (in this day and age it's possible) they don't know if the driver has a hostage or a willing participant in the chase. Being here in Southern California, we see live police chases all the time. It's like watching a daily reality show. I don't know how many times I have seen a driver start shooting FROM INSIDE THE CAR. I don't know if they have a death wish, if they want a SUICIDE BY COP thing, or they just are stupid and think they can get away with killing a cop.

Dr. Jazz
01-25-2006, 03:14 PM
and no one comes out of their car immediately after a car chase with their hands in the air either.

a cop doesn't know if someone in the vehicle is armed with one gun, a rifle, a grenade (in this day and age it's possible) they don't know if the driver has a hostage or a willing participant in the chase. Being here in Southern California, we see live police chases all the time. It's like watching a daily reality show. I don't know how many times I have seen a driver start shooting FROM INSIDE THE CAR. I don't know if they have a death wish, if they want a SUICIDE BY COP thing, or they just are stupid and think they can get away with killing a cop.

You are exactly right Irene. I am a police officer and yes, there are some corrupt officers, but believe it or not, there are a LOT more good decent upstanding officers than there are corrupt. Unfortunately, it's one of those situations where one or several bad apples spoil the whole bunch. The news seems to report mostly the negative stories about police officers and not the positive ones. But I understand the reason for not reporting positive stories about police officers because we know when we go through the academy and take the sworn oath that our job is risking our life everyday because that's what we get paid to do. We don't expect a pat on the back everytime we save someone's life, but we also don't like being called pigs and being trashed by people because it's hard to please everybody and do your job without all the heat and negativity that comes with it.

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 03:22 PM
You are exactly right Irene. I am a police officer and yes, there are some corrupt officers, but believe it or not, there are a LOT more good decent upstanding officers than there are corrupt. Unfortunately, it's one of those situations where one or several bad apples spoil the whole bunch. The news seems to report mostly the negative stories about police officers and not the positive ones. But I understand the reason for not reporting positive stories about police officers because we know when we go through the academy and take the sworn oath that our job is risking our life everyday because that's what we get paid to do. We don't expect a pat on the back everytime we save someone's life, but we also don't like being called pigs and being trashed by people because it's hard to please everybody and do your job without all the heat and negativity that comes with it.
Good for you, Bravo...I had wanted to be a police officer, so I take it personally when anyone says negative stuff abt any law enforcement officer. I know there are bad apples. There are bad apples in everything. anyone seen that Dateline episode of child molesters and AN EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR WAS ARRESTED??? he was caught at a home waiting for the young girl (12) he met on-line??? well that girl was really a police officer (YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!)
but bottom line, police officers have to make quick, precise decisions (life-saving ones) in a matter of seconds.
How many of you can decide what you want to eat for lunch in a matter of seconds?
Now imagine a police officer deciding in the best interest of him/herself and their fellow citizens and other officers.

TVFactFan
01-25-2006, 03:42 PM
You are exactly right Irene. I am a police officer and yes, there are some corrupt officers, but believe it or not, there are a LOT more good decent upstanding officers than there are corrupt. Unfortunately, it's one of those situations where one or several bad apples spoil the whole bunch. The news seems to report mostly the negative stories about police officers and not the positive ones. But I understand the reason for not reporting positive stories about police officers because we know when we go through the academy and take the sworn oath that our job is risking our life everyday because that's what we get paid to do. We don't expect a pat on the back everytime we save someone's life, but we also don't like being called pigs and being trashed by people because it's hard to please everybody and do your job without all the heat and negativity that comes with it.


I just want to know why the police in Philly want a pat on the back when the bust a underground swingers club or massage palor.

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 03:49 PM
did they say that on television: "We want a pat on our backs" ?

Lexx82
01-25-2006, 04:47 PM
Without a doubt, communities of Black, Latino, Asian, Indigenous, Arab people, immigrant and non-immigrant, are more and more the target of racist killer cops.The rights of poor people are increasingly being taken away at the same time that the police are being given a freer hand to brutalize and murder us. Across the country, victims like TyRon Lewis, Aaron White, Preston Barnes, Aaron William, Yang Xin Huang, Anthony Baez, Anthony Rosario, Hilton Vega, Jose Librado Sanchez, Richard Singleton, Nathaniel Gains, and many others have died in a wave of police murder. The government claims that "crime must be dealt with" and so more cops are "needed." But which is worse-the individual acts of desperation among poor people, such as robberies and drug peddling, or government decisions that force these desperate acts?

Why is there such bipartisan agreement on expanding police power? The answer lies in the function of the police. Cops don't arrest bosses when they lay off workers. They don't arrest politicians who take health care and food away from children. They don't arrest the KKK or right-wing militias who promote and commit racist violence. The politicians and their corporate bosses are anticipating an explosion of justifiable anger in response to their cutbacks. So they want more cops to keep the poor in check while they intensify their economic oppression.

www.saxakali.com/CommunityLinkups/NYCBdEd3.htm

hey about those 41 shots to a UNARMED man...did u forget about that??...u would think 3...or damn even 8 shots..but 41????????????????????????????????????????????????

how about the beating those white cops gave to that black guy in new orleans caught on tape

its almost like every couple of months there a minority getting beatin down almost ending up in a coma or at least losing part of thier eyesight or something in the hands of a police man who in fact decided on that day/night that he was in deed "superman"

we must put an end to police brutality A.S.A.P

and we definately got to clean these urban streets where u see crime, drugs, prositues and liquor stores on every block....i live in north nujerz...the cops here dont do a damnnnnn thing....when i pass by lets say 10 pm or around 12am and i past thru these ghetto neighborhoods (dangerous i must say) there are 10-15 people outisde in every 2-3 blocks...playing dice..playing loud music...drug dealing...drinkin liquor and guaranteed you wont see a cop nearby....wanna know why? cause thier thinking screw these "*****s and spics" let them kill each other its ghetto warfare....you have ur drugs, prostitutes and liquor stores...go kill each other

and when you call a cop to report something stolen or a domestic dispute they take forrrreevvvvver

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 05:07 PM
Without a doubt, communities of Black, Latino, Asian, Indigenous, Arab people, immigrant and non-immigrant, are more and more the target of racist killer cops.The rights of poor people are increasingly being taken away at the same time that the police are being given a freer hand to brutalize and murder us. Across the country, victims like TyRon Lewis, Aaron White, Preston Barnes, Aaron William, Yang Xin Huang, Anthony Baez, Anthony Rosario, Hilton Vega, Jose Librado Sanchez, Richard Singleton, Nathaniel Gains, and many others have died in a wave of police murder. The government claims that "crime must be dealt with" and so more cops are "needed." But which is worse-the individual acts of desperation among poor people, such as robberies and drug peddling, or government decisions that force these desperate acts?

Why is there such bipartisan agreement on expanding police power? The answer lies in the function of the police. Cops don't arrest bosses when they lay off workers. They don't arrest politicians who take health care and food away from children. They don't arrest the KKK or right-wing militias who promote and commit racist violence. The politicians and their corporate bosses are anticipating an explosion of justifiable anger in response to their cutbacks. So they want more cops to keep the poor in check while they intensify their economic oppression.

www.saxakali.com/CommunityLinkups/NYCBdEd3.htm

hey about those 41 shots to a UNARMED man...did u forget about that??...u would think 3...or damn even 8 shots..but 41????????????????????????????????????????????????

how about the beating those white cops gave to that black guy in new orleans caught on tape

its almost like every couple of months there a minority getting beatin down almost ending up in a coma or at least losing part of thier eyesight or something in the hands of a police man who in fact decided on that day/night that he was in deed "superman"

we must put an end to police brutality A.S.A.P

and we definately got to clean these urban streets where u see crime, drugs, prositues and liquor stores on every block....i live in north nujerz...the cops here dont do a damnnnnn thing....when i pass by lets say 10 pm or around 12am and i past thru these ghetto neighborhoods (dangerous i must say) there are 10-15 people outisde in every 2-3 blocks...playing dice..playing loud music...drug dealing...drinkin liquor and guaranteed you wont see a cop nearby....wanna know why? cause thier thinking screw these "*****s and spics" let them kill each other its ghetto warfare....you have ur drugs, prostitutes and liquor stores...go kill each other

and when you call a cop to report something stolen or a domestic dispute they take forrrreevvvvver
Whoa is me!!!!!!!

anyway, if the cops take foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, then your city needs more cops. but will your city pay for it? do you attend city hall meetings? do you go to your city leaders and convey your feelings? or do you just post here your thinking?

no one here said that cops are perfect. where did you read that? i myself put there are bad apples in every profession.

don't put a label or make a generalization abt a profession when there is a handful that made a bad decision, bad choice, a racist choice etc.

I am a minority, twice over. I am hispanic and a woman. But I obey the law. i don't worry abt being shot by a cop because I don't carry a weapon. When I have been pulled over for an infraction (brake light not working), I immediately pull over, put my hands on the wheel so the officer can see that I am complying and I don't have a weapon. I don't hang with gang members, I don't sell or do drugs. I dont' steal. I don't hang where I shouldn't be. I give them no reason to look at me wrong. The only people who complain, are the ones who deal with the cops constantly, and it's usually not for a good reason.

GARFIELDKOOL
01-25-2006, 08:08 PM
Lexx82, I agree with you 100% Minorities are a more target for racist cops to shoot. A few years ago, in my city, this white cop shot and killed an unarmed black man in a drug house. I know they have to react fast, but this young man's actions didn't threaten the cops. Yeah, it was a drug house he shouldn't have been in there, but he was unarmed. The black community was outraged. The cop knew he reacted too fast so he tried to clean it up and said he tripped over a couch and the gun went off. The police chief back then(who is now our mayor) did nothing put defend the cops...oh they will defend their own corruptness.

Irene, cops as you know even question or pull over innocent people. My brother was locked up for days because he "fit the discription of a suspect" they were looking for. He had just got home from work, and was about to chill with his girlfriend. I was pulled over by a cop when I was walking to the store a few years back. The cop was cool, though. I was walking to the store in the neighborhood, and a cop stopped and asked me questions. He said he just got a call about someone just stole someone's purse. He checked me and becaue I was wearing something similar was the suspect was wearing, (jeans, sneakers, leather jacket) the only thing he found was stuff I brought from the store. Again the cop was friendly and told me to have a nice evening. Like you, Irene, I don't hang with gang members, I don't steal, hell, I didn't even hang out in the streets. I just happen to be out walking to the store. But I agree with what Lexx had said, because I have seen it for myself.

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 08:17 PM
Lexx82, I agree with you 100% Minorities are a more target for racist cops to shoot. A few years ago, in my city, this white cop shot and killed an unarmed black man in a drug house. I know they have to react fast, but this young man's actions didn't threaten the cops. Yeah, it was a drug house he shouldn't have been in there, but he was unarmed. The black community was outraged. The cop knew he reacted too fast so he tried to clean it up and said he tripped over a couch and the gun went off. The police chief back then(who is now our mayor) did nothing put defend the cops...oh they will defend their own corruptness.

Irene, cops as you know even question or pull over innocent people. My brother was locked up for days because he "fit the discription of a suspect" they were looking for. He had just got home from work, and was about to chill with his girlfriend. I was pulled over by a cop when I was walking to the store a few years back. The cop was cool, though. I was walking to the store in the neighborhood, and a cop stopped and asked me questions. He said he just got a call about someone just stole someone's purse. He checked me and becaue I was wearing something similar was the suspect was wearing, (jeans, sneakers, leather jacket) the only thing he found was stuff I brought from the store. Again the cop was friendly and told me to have a nice evening. Like you, Irene, I don't hang with gang members, I don't steal, hell, I didn't even hang out in the streets. I just happen to be out walking to the store. But I agree with what Lexx had said, because I have seen it for myself.
Unfortunately, for the cops to find a suspect, they have to stop and investigate people who fit a description. It happens in all races, all demographics. If cops didn't do their job, they get blamed. If they do their job, they are being corrupt. We have to take the good and unfortunately the bad. When the bad does occur, we as a community have to step up and not allow the bad cops to continue in their job. It's more than can be posted here, but you get the idea Kool.

Abt three years ago, I was walking home from physical therapy and this police officer came into the little store where I was. He asked me if I knew or was aware that I was being followed. I told him no. It turns out, there was a vehicle with three men in it and when the officer asked me if I knew the car or the occupants, I told him no. With that, he told me to stay in the store and he stopped the vehicle. It turns out the driver didn't have a license or any I.D. Inside the trunk was a polaroid camera, a bat, duct tape and a large heavy blanket. The cop couldn't arrest anyone on pure suspicion, but the men were not from this part of my town. The car was towed away and the men were advised to leave the area a.s.a.p. When the cop told me all this, I was so glad and lucky to have this officer be so keen and doing his job. He was very worried that they were following me, hoping to try and grab me and God knows what. I was so thankful and my boyfriend went to the police station to thank him personally. He said he went with his instincts and he noticed this car and it just didn't seem right.
What we as citizens don't suspect, cops sometimes and they must, have that little intuition that tells them when something isn't right.

GARFIELDKOOL
01-25-2006, 08:28 PM
Wow, you were being stalked! That is something else.

Penny Lane
01-25-2006, 08:39 PM
My brother in law who was a Flint Michigan policeman was shot when he was approaching a group of young men(in 1987) . He suffered a chest wound (he recovered). The shootist was arrested and tried but let off on a technicality. In the years since the incident the shootist has been in and out of jail continuously. Good old American justice!:rolleyes:

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 08:44 PM
My brother in law who was a Flint Michigan policeman was shot when he was approaching a group of young men(in 1987) . He suffered a chest wound (he recovered). The shootist was arrested and tried but let off on a technicality. In the years since the incident the shootist has been in and out of jail continuously. Good old American justice!:rolleyes:
I am sorry that happened to your brother in law PennyLane. Which is why I applaud all law enforcement personnel, all teachers, and anyone who gets paid so low for doing such a wonderful job.

Those people who go in and out of jail always have those good ol' attorneys that seem to find those little technicalities.

I seen a story on TLC abt a cop who was merely at a red light in his cruiser when a speeding driver slammed into his cop car from behind. Nothing happened to the speeding driver, he was ok. But the cop suffered second and third degree burns all over. His face is totally disfigured. He no longer has fingers, only stubs that once used to be his hands. He has no ears, and no nose. He now works a desk job, but look what happened to him JUST FOR BEING AT A STOP LIGHT...go figure.

Anyone here ever read or hear abt that crazy man who shot and killed people in the unemployment office? that was here in my town. When that gunmen fled, one of the police officers in pursuit gave chase and next thing you know, the gunmen stopped the vehicle and jumped out of the car with his weapon and shot the officer in the head before the officer had any time to react and protect himself. He of course died. The gunmen was later chased and shot to death. Thank God for instant justice that day.

Penny Lane
01-25-2006, 09:14 PM
My brother in law retired from the Flint P D and is now police chief in a rural Michigan township. He told me that while employed in Flint that in the jail there were cameras on them and the prisoners. The scumbag prisoners could deliver non-stop vocal abuses at the officers and the officers could do nothing about it since they were on camera. It just seems all backwards to me.:crazy:

Ireneparalegal
01-25-2006, 09:19 PM
My brother in law retired from the Flint P D and is now police chief in a rural Michigan township. He told me that while employed in Flint that in the jail there were cameras on them and the prisoners. The scumbag prisoners could deliver non-stop vocal abuses at the officers and the officers could do nothing about it since they were on camera. It just seems all backwards to me.:crazy:
It sure is. :(

Jo_Luvs_Ketchup
01-25-2006, 09:26 PM
My uncle is a police officer and we have a whole family of cops/sheriffs. I understand how hard that job is. I pray everyday my uncle doesn't get killed. He's had a few accidents but nothing too bad thank god. Some police officers are stupid yes, but not all police. They do their best trying to protect us. :wave:

Lee
01-26-2006, 01:03 AM
Thank you JinnyGirl88. Nice picture of Nancy McKeon on your avatar by the way.

Bootsy Whoosh
01-26-2006, 02:01 AM
Police brutality is a real issue and to belittle it with comments like "woe is me" is, I think, just as bad as saying all police officers are bad.

And you can say you don't have problems with police officers because you don't hang out with gangs, etc. and good for you, but what about the people with no choice? There has to be some people in this country whose neighborhoods fell apart around them but they could not afford to move or chose not to because they owned that home or whatever....there has to be some people surrounded by drugs and violence whether they want to be or not.

And another thing.....these officers are trained in the use of a weapon....presumably they can aim? Why must they shoot to kill in all situations? Especially in a situation where they cannot see a gun, it seems to me that at least some effort should be made to shoot a leg first.

I know, I know, it's a split second decision, and don't anyone dare jump all over me because I'm not saying all cops are bad, but I think ignoring police brutality is a dangerous road to walk down.

Ags2000
01-26-2006, 02:06 AM
but 9 out of 10 times its always a "mistake" or the police could of prevented the situation from happening

yeah it sucks when sum1 shoots and kills a cop...thats totally wrong...but its also totally wrong where a cop mistakes a freakin wallet for a gun and there are just wayyyyy tooo many mistakes going on like "it looked like this" or "i thought he was a suspect"....what happens then?????....and 99.9 percent its a minority being shot and killed or being brutally beatin down


Ya know...it just amazes me how ignorant people are. Just when I think I've heard it all...well someone else steps up to take their place.

Those "scientific numbers" of yours are bogus. You have no idea the training a police officer goes through to become a cop. Yes, sometimes innocent people get hurt when they reach for a wallet or whatever AFTER BEING TOLD NOT TO MOVE BY POLICE but that is their own fault.

Yes there are SOME corrupt cops out there, but for the most part they are just doing a job they love.

D

Lexx82
01-26-2006, 03:13 AM
umm u dont gotta hang out in the streets or be in a gang to be pulled over by a cop for no reason or gettin beatin down for no reason

theres been a few times where i was younger and my brother had a black bmw with rims and tinted windows in the mid 90's he was a young guy too...maybe he was wearing a cap i dont remember but what i do remember is passin by a quiet town and a cop following us and bam...pulled my brother over...for nooooo reason....they just pulled him over...checked his license registration etc...waited 15 mins the the cop says he can go now....back then i was young so im thinkin my brother did something wrong but the problem is when a cop sees a black or latino person driving a nice car ...right away they think hes a drug dealer

so far i havent been harassed by a cop...hope i never get to experience that...some of my friends have though

another thing thats just plain stupid and corny is how these cops or teachers think just because u wear a t shirt "stop snitchin" or a long white tee shirt right away they think ur a gang member lolololol.....ive read that in the paper a while ago im shaking my head like damn these people are ignorant....if u dress urban its like a crime nowadays

MsOrange
01-26-2006, 07:31 AM
i'm gonna laugh when this gets moved to the politics board

Ireneparalegal
01-26-2006, 01:29 PM
Police brutality is a real issue and to belittle it with comments like "woe is me" is, I think, just as bad as saying all police officers are bad.

And you can say you don't have problems with police officers because you don't hang out with gangs, etc. and good for you, but what about the people with no choice? There has to be some people in this country whose neighborhoods fell apart around them but they could not afford to move or chose not to because they owned that home or whatever....there has to be some people surrounded by drugs and violence whether they want to be or not.

And another thing.....these officers are trained in the use of a weapon....presumably they can aim? Why must they shoot to kill in all situations? Especially in a situation where they cannot see a gun, it seems to me that at least some effort should be made to shoot a leg first.

I know, I know, it's a split second decision, and don't anyone dare jump all over me because I'm not saying all cops are bad, but I think ignoring police brutality is a dangerous road to walk down.
My "Whoa is me" was not referenced to police brutality, it was referenced to the poster. If you are going to spew out statistics, then, make sure they are HONEST or ACCURATE statistics. It had nothing to do with the issue of police corruption, which if you read my posts and the other posts, no one is denying corruption. I know it exists. But the original thread was questioning the police and their "wanting a pat on the back". the other poster began tossing out malarkey without anything to back it up. I can post here post after post of many instances of police corruption (Rodney King anyone???) and brutality, but one should not make a generalization of a profession because of the incidents mentioned by him or anyone else. That to me is "Whoa is me".

Ags2000
01-26-2006, 02:04 PM
another thing thats just plain stupid and corny is how these cops or teachers think just because u wear a t shirt "stop snitchin" or a long white tee shirt right away they think ur a gang member lolololol.....ive read that in the paper a while ago im shaking my head like damn these people are ignorant....if u dress urban its like a crime nowadays


Well, I gotta say I've never heard this. I guess in some areas for whatever reason that is believed...but I can tell ya not all teachers or cops believe that. Must be where you're from.

I have LOTS of friends that are cops and most of family are teachers, and I've NEVER heard that sillyness about the tshirt. I agree that is stupid whoever brought that up...unless it is true where they live.

lockdown06
01-26-2006, 05:16 PM
My dad was a MP in the ARMY and he told me at a young age, that no matter what I do when a cop says to stop or put your hands up to comply with them. Because that is all the warning they need. I am not agreeing with them shooting, but it happens.

And whatever you do DO NOT GO FOR YOUR POCKETS UNTIL HE TELLS YOU TO.

Ireneparalegal
01-26-2006, 05:18 PM
My dad was a MP in the ARMY and he told me at a young age, that no matter what I do when a cop says to stop or put your hands up to comply with them. Because that is all the warning they need. I am not agreeing with them shooting, but it happens.

And whatever you do DO NOT GO FOR YOUR POCKETS UNTIL HE TELLS YOU TO.
I mean, that's common sense, isn't it???? I think so.

lockdown06
01-26-2006, 05:32 PM
That is the problem these days. Hell I think they should give cops more rights. A cop in our town was put up for several weeks because he got beat up in a hand to hand fight. He should have beat the guy into submission with his baton and pepper spray. IF YOU COMPLY TO POLICE ORDERS YOU WON"T GET HURT. If you resist, run, reach for your pocket, or move when told to freeze, the cop should have the right to do anything to stop you.

Ireneparalegal
01-26-2006, 05:39 PM
That is the problem these days. Hell I think they should give cops more rights. A cop in our town was put up for several weeks because he got beat up in a hand to hand fight. He should have beat the guy into submission with his baton and pepper spray. IF YOU COMPLY TO POLICE ORDERS YOU WON"T GET HURT. If you resist, run, reach for your pocket, or move when told to freeze, the cop should have the right to do anything to stop you.
you know, I partly agree with you, but then that's the part where the corrupt cops come in...those who take their job and think they are God and think they can do anything to anyone. The part I agree with is there is a reason cops ask you to comply...if you resist you are asking for it. I don't think several blows to the head, but definitely, one should comply. I trip out when I watch Cops on Fox, or some other real police show, you see these people resisting arrest, scuffling, trying to tell the cops "No, don't!" and then they act like they are all innocent "I am not doing anything wrong officer!!!":rolleyes:

lockdown06
01-26-2006, 07:20 PM
I love watching Cops with my dad.....hes always like beat that F-er....He'll listen.

Dude111
04-09-2025, 04:35 PM
Cops are out of control.. Most of them think they can do ANYTHING and get away with it.......

Sickening really....... I used to be active on a site that defends cops.... Threads like this are frowned upon but its true... Everything in this thread about them!!