View Full Version : Will "Merry Christmas" Be Politically Incorrect to Say In Public?
Jenya 12-25-2005, 04:43 PM It seems "Happy Holidays" will soon replace "Merry Christmas" in the politically correct North American world. Should you fight the right to say to save "Merry Christmas" in public these days?
What do you think? ;) :tree: :santa2: :cc:
Jenya 12-25-2005, 04:45 PM Why isn't there a "Happy Hanukkah" smiley available in the list? :mad: ;) :o
spunkygirl 12-25-2005, 05:18 PM I hope not that's really dumb cause the holiday is about the birth of Christ, so it should be Merry Christmas. To me Happy Holidays is more for all the holidays combined like Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years.
Jenya 12-25-2005, 05:29 PM I hope not that's really dumb cause the holiday is about the birth of Christ, so it should be Merry Christmas. To me Happy Holidays is more for all the holidays combined like Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years.
So, Sasette. I think you'll fight to save the Christmas tradition. :)
I get kind of pissed when some people complain about a nativity scene on your lawn. I've seen these fights on American TV news. So If your family has a nice nativity scene, with a baby Jesus on their front lawn, and a snotty nosy neighbour makes a complaint, how would you...ummm.. "Shut them up"? ;)
Growing up in Russia in the late 1980's, we could finally express religious beliefs on our property (even though not many bothered to do it because of fearing of complaints), and Orthodox churches were finally allowed to do it after a long battle with the Communist atheists back in 1982.
Now I see this threat over here in Norh America.
Kind of makes me wonder. :(
Dutabi84 12-25-2005, 06:27 PM If I see anyone bitch about "Merry Christmas," they will probably get a nice punch to the throat.
Dean Winchester 12-25-2005, 06:27 PM I personally don't mind Happy Holidays, but however... I saw this commercial for either T.G.I. Fridays or Chili's talking about giving away their giftcards as presents, and it really irked me seeing the two friends giving each other giftcards saying "Happy Holidays" to each other.
IMO, Happy Holidays is informal, that is what you say to somebody in a checkout lane, not while you're exchanging gifts. Right, not everyone is Christian, and I have friends who are Jewish, what do I say to them? "Happy Hanukkah", and they will say "Merry Christmas" back to me. IMO, "Happy Holidays" is not something two people say when exchanging presents, it's way too informal and casual.
spunkygirl 12-25-2005, 06:29 PM I agree Happy Holidays is something you'd say to someone you don't really know well.
Dr. Thong 12-25-2005, 06:47 PM It seems "Happy Holidays" will soon replace "Merry Christmas" in the politically correct Noth American world. Should you fight the right to say to save "Merry Christmas" in public these days?
What do you think? ;) :tree: :santa2: :cc:
It already has replaced it to a certain degree: My company posted next year's holidays and we got the following P.C. substitutions:
Spring Holiday (Easter)
Winter Holiday (Christmas)
One of my enterprising co-workers went in and corrected it so that the political correctness has been removed and now everyone in my area proudly has the corrected copy with Easter and Christmas listed among the non-religious holidays.
I do think we need to fight for this: Political correctness has to go!!:mad:
I personally don't mind Happy Holidays, but however... I saw this commercial for either T.G.I. Fridays or Chili's talking about giving away their giftcards as presents, and it really irked me seeing the two friends giving each other giftcards saying "Happy Holidays" to each other.
IMO, Happy Holidays is informal, that is what you say to somebody in a checkout lane, not while you're exchanging gifts. Right, not everyone is Christian, and I have friends who are Jewish, what do I say to them? "Happy Hanukkah", and they will say "Merry Christmas" back to me. IMO, "Happy Holidays" is not something two people say when exchanging presents, it's way too informal and casual.
I know Jews who don't care whether you wish them "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Chanukah." As long as you wish them something, they're happy. That's as it should be.
Fleet 12-25-2005, 07:13 PM It seems "Happy Holidays" will soon replace "Merry Christmas" in the politically correct Noth American world. Should you fight the right to say to save "Merry Christmas" in public these days?
What do you think? ;) :tree: :santa2: :cc:
Actually, in the last few weeks, the opposite has happened. Most department stores put "Merry Christmas" back in their ads and displayed in their stores once they heard that many people would not shop there until they went back to using the phrase "Merry Christmas."
Fonzarelli 12-25-2005, 08:11 PM I sure am glad we don't have even a discussion about this over here where I live. :)
Merry Christmas to all of you!
Jenya 12-25-2005, 08:16 PM Actually, in the last few weeks, the opposite has happened. Most department stores put "Merry Christmas" back in their ads and displayed in their stores once they heard that many people would not shop there until they went back to using the phrase "Merry Christmas."
Well what's on President Bush's Whitehouse lawn tonight? a "Christmas Tree"? or a "Holiday Tree"?
You tell me! ;)
HINT: You won't like the answer if you google it up! ;)
Jenya 12-25-2005, 08:27 PM "Holiday Trees Arrive at Capitol, White House
Monday, November 28, 2005"
SOURCE: Fony Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176903,00.html). :mad:
Dean Winchester 12-25-2005, 08:37 PM does a "Holiday Tree" also contain New Years and Thanksgiving ornaments and have scenes from the pilgrims on it the way they have nativity scenes?
I just don't understand the hoopla, most Jews I've encountered understand that it's Christmas, not "the Holidays". Hell, Larry David is a very well-known Jew and he's written in Christmas (as opposed to "the holidays") episodes onto both Seinfeld AND Curb Your Enthusiasm. George bought Elaine the kashmir sweater with the red dot as a Christmas present, not as a "Happy Holidays" present, same with Elaine's nipple in the Christmas (not "Holiday") card. Cheryl's family came over and celebrated Christmas, not "The holidays" on Curb as well.
It's funny that some non-devout Christians are afraid to use the word Christmas out of fear it'll alienate non-Christians when I know plenty of Jewish people as well as Wiccans and athiests who say "Christmas" and not "holidays". People are so afraid of alienating and hurting feelings, but the truth is, not very many people are offended by Merry Christmas.
Dutabi84 12-25-2005, 09:34 PM "Holiday Trees Arrive at Capitol, White House
Monday, November 28, 2005"
SOURCE: Fony Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176903,00.html). :mad:
For all the people who boycotted stores for not using "Merry Christmas," will they now be boycotting the president? :joke:...
Janice 12-25-2005, 09:42 PM For all the people who boycotted stores for not using "Merry Christmas," will they now be boycotting the president? :joke:...
Read the article, not the headline. It's called the White House Christmas Tree.
As for the Capitol tree. House Speaker Dennis Hastert made a big deal that it was renamed the Holiday Tree and had it restored to the Capitol Christmas Tree. :thumbsup:
Dutabi84 12-25-2005, 09:47 PM Read the article, not the headline. It's called the White House Christmas Tree.
As for the Capitol tree. House Speaker Dennis Hastert made a big deal that it was renamed the Holiday Tree and had it restored to the Capitol Christmas Tree. :thumbsup:
I stand corrected, that was a stupid headline.
Fleet 12-26-2005, 01:54 AM "Holiday Trees Arrive at Capitol, White House
Monday, November 28, 2005"
SOURCE: Fony Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176903,00.html). :mad:
I still can't believe there are some people who refuse to accept Fox News as a legitimate news station... accept it, people! Fox News beats all the others in ratings and have had fewer hard-news controversies than any other news station.
As Janice said, read the story, not just the headline. ;)
Fonzarelli 12-26-2005, 04:36 PM I still can't believe there are some people who refuse to accept Fox News as a legitimate news station... accept it, people! Fox News beats all the others in ratings
Of course, popularity doesn't have anything to do with reliability.
Zebra 3 12-26-2005, 05:58 PM If I see anyone bitch about "Merry Christmas," they will probably get a nice punch to the throat.
Now that's the Christmas spirit, hohoho! :santa:
Steve M. 12-26-2005, 06:04 PM I don't care whether we say "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hannukah" as long as I don't have to hear about Kwanzaa ever again! Kwanzaa was invented by a black nationalist from a grade-Z land grant college in Long Beach, California (ah yes, the great universities of the world. . . Oxford, the Sorbonne, Harvard, Yale. . . California State University at Long Beach!) as a celebration of Marxist Tanzanian economics and a repudiation of all things "mainstream American" (i.e., white) to encourage black Americans to separate from the rest of America and get away from "white" hoilidays like Christmas. It rips of Christmas gift giving and elements of Hannukah, lke a candleabrum. And by the way, the economic model it celebrates - introduced to Tanzania by its founding father, Tanzanian President Julius Nyeire (I'm guessing at the spelling of his last name) - failed. Nyeire admitted as much when he stepped down from the Tanzanian presidency - "I blew it. I failed."
Stop Kwanzaa! Stop the madness! Let's celebrate the race-neutral Decmber 26 holiday of Boxing Day instead! Give a gift or a card to your mailman today! :lol:
Steve M. 12-26-2005, 06:06 PM Of course, popularity doesn't have anything to do with reliability.
Fox News showed the Pope leading his first Christmas Mass and the onscreen title card referred to him as "Benedict XIV" - who died in 1758! :lol:
Chocoholic 12-27-2005, 12:11 PM I think as long as people are willing to fight for their right to celebrate Christmas publically, "Merry Christmas" will never become politically incorrect. I'm all for diversity, but I think it's extremely hypocritical to ban Christians from publically celebrating our holidays while allowing minority groups to freely express their religious beliefs, or lack thereof. Like it or not, Christianity is by far the most common religion practiced in the United States. (I think the number is around 84%, last time I checked.) Naturally, more people celebrate Christmas than other holidays this time of year. If this upsets you, then you can always find a country where your religion is the majority and move there.
Dr. Thong 12-27-2005, 02:15 PM Naturally, more people celebrate Christmas than other holidays this time of year. If this upsets you, then you can always find a country where your religion is the majority and move there.
:clap: :clap: :clap: patriot:
Fonzarelli 12-27-2005, 04:25 PM Fox News showed the Pope leading his first Christmas Mass and the onscreen title card referred to him as "Benedict XIV" - who died in 1758! :lol:
Well, he *looks* like he died in 1758! :lol:
*MIBabe03* 12-27-2005, 05:58 PM I don't care if it ends up being politically incorrect to say Merry Christmas, I'm going to say it anyway. Why is it that all of a sudden, it's become a problem? If a person doesn't like it, oh well.
EmoJoe 12-27-2005, 06:29 PM If it does become that, I'll go outside and scream "Merry Christmas" at the top of my lungs, go to everyone's house and scream Merry Christmas in their faces and throw red and green confetti all over the place.
EmoJoe 12-27-2005, 06:30 PM "Holiday Trees Arrive at Capitol, White House
Monday, November 28, 2005"
SOURCE: Fony Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176903,00.html). :mad:
Thats so dumb. Its a symbol for CHRISTMAS, not Hanukah. Do you see jewish people with Christmas trees?
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