HOLLYWOOD - Jennifer Lopez's claim to live a clean-cut lifestyle has been called into question after she was recently photographed smoking a cigarette.
The Maid in Manhattan actress has spoken about her decision to turn her back on unhealthy vices in a number of interviews.

She has said. "I don't smoke or drink. When I was little, my mother drummed it into me how bad it is for you, and it stuck somehow...

"I envy people who have releases. They just have a drink or a cigarette and they feel better."

But Lopez appears to have nobody to envy anymore—on Dec. 6, after shooting scenes for her movie El Cantante in a New York City graveyard, she was snapped puffing away.

The famous anti-smoker, who famously forced ex-fiancée Ben Affleck to give up his bad habit, seemed to be sneaking a cigarette when she was caught on camera by eagle-eyed fans, who have sold pictures of the puffing diva to America's top tabloids.

But the actress/singer's publicists insist Lopez hasn't started smoking—she’s just getting used to the herbal cigarettes her character has to smoke in the biopic of Hector Lavoe, which also stars her husband Marc Anthony.

A spokesman for Lopez insists, "It's not a real cigarette; it's a prop."

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Sure it's a prop. Just like her first, second and third marriage.
All her husbands are props.

Ah yes. the ol' herbal cigarette excuse.

That's perfectly healthy. Because we all know that except for tobacco, any other kind of leaf like material that you light up and suck into your lungs is perfectly okay for your body.

;)

who cares?

not surprised:rolleyes:

They better get her ass into rehab...we all know cigarettes are a gateway drug!!:D

rofl, I don't think J. Lo's 1/100th as messed up as "Nippy"

Remember kids, Nippy (Whitney) says "crack is wack"

that reminds me of how she eats healthy...

that reminds me of how she eats healthy...
Ewwwww. :rofl:

Maybe compared to Britney Spears she is! * butts out cigarette, belches from 6th beer of the morning......*

ugh

that reminds me of how she eats healthy...
I remember those photos...DISGUSTING HO!!!!!!!

she looks like she's freebasing coke there

that reminds me of how she eats healthy... :eek2:

:lol:

she looks like she's freebasing coke there

That'll be the next tabloid headline: J.Ho Goes On Freebase Binge - Friends Fear For Her Life!;)

It looks like she is eating buggers.

helloooo????? we know, that's why we are making fun of the Beeeeeotch. LOL

helloooo????? we know, that's why we are making fun of the Beeeeeotch. LOL

http://home.teleport.com/~rasputin/ImageFiles/BeavisButthead.jpg

BUTTHEAD: Uhhh...settle down, Irene!

BEAVIS: Yeah...heh-heh! Settle down!

Probably the last time she was clean, when she was still "Jenny who played with blocks";):http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Douwd/celeb-kids-26.jpg



Of course she still ate boogers then.

http://home.teleport.com/~rasputin/ImageFiles/BeavisButthead.jpg

BUTTHEAD: Uhhh...settle down, Irene!

BEAVIS: Yeah...heh-heh! Settle down!
:rofl:

HOLLYWOOD - Jennifer Lopez's claim to live a clean-cut lifestyle has been called into question after she was recently photographed smoking a cigarette.
The Maid in Manhattan actress has spoken about her decision to turn her back on unhealthy vices in a number of interviews.

She has said. "I don't smoke or drink. When I was little, my mother drummed it into me how bad it is for you, and it stuck somehow...

"I envy people who have releases. They just have a drink or a cigarette and they feel better."

But Lopez appears to have nobody to envy anymore—on Dec. 6, after shooting scenes for her movie El Cantante in a New York City graveyard, she was snapped puffing away.

The famous anti-smoker, who famously forced ex-fiancée Ben Affleck to give up his bad habit, seemed to be sneaking a cigarette when she was caught on camera by eagle-eyed fans, who have sold pictures of the puffing diva to America's top tabloids.

But the actress/singer's publicists insist Lopez hasn't started smoking—she’s just getting used to the herbal cigarettes her character has to smoke in the biopic of Hector Lavoe, which also stars her husband Marc Anthony.

A spokesman for Lopez insists, "It's not a real cigarette; it's a prop."


Well, how about all the cigarettes Jane Fonda smoked in Agnes of God, huh? That's because her character, Martha Livingstone, was a compulsive smoker. Dig? And, if you were a psychologist delaing with a pre-Vatican II Mother Surperior, you'd smoke too much, too! They're actors, for Pete's sake!

Well, how about all the cigarettes Jane Fonda smoked in Agnes of God, huh? That's because her character, Martha Livingstone, was a compulsive smoker. Dig? And, if you were a psychologist delaing with a pre-Vatican II Mother Surperior, you'd smoke too much, too! They're actors, for Pete's sake!
I know that Steve...but she was caught smoking OUTSIDE OF FILMING HER LATEST MOVIE...not during the filming...in other words she is a hypocrite and a liar...what else is new?
Her publicist states she is just smoking during the filming, not outside of that...but she was photographed smoking elsewhere. That's what this thread is abt, not Jane Fonda or anyone else.

:lol: at the nose picture, but non smoking stars do smoke fake cigarette for movies. Renee Zellweger taked about smoking prop cigarettes for Bridget Jones Diary on Conan O'Brien. So why is this such a big deal?

I know that Steve...but she was caught smoking OUTSIDE OF FILMING HER LATEST MOVIE...not during the filming...in other words she is a hypocrite and a liar...what else is new?

Oops, missed that part. . . .Poor girl, Marc is drivin' her to it! :lol:

I know that Steve...but she was caught smoking OUTSIDE OF FILMING HER LATEST MOVIE...not during the filming...in other words she is a hypocrite and a liar...what else is new?
Her publicist states she is just smoking during the filming, not outside of that...but she was photographed smoking elsewhere. That's what this thread is abt, not Jane Fonda or anyone else.
who cares? she may be a hypocrite and a liar but there are very few celebrities who haven't lied or been a hypocrite at some point.

who cares? she may be a hypocrite and a liar but there are very few celebrities who haven't lied or been a hypocrite at some point.

very true. I'm not pro-cigarette, but I suppose better J. Lo smokes a cig than smoking crack like another well-known diva who is married to someone who is a former singing star himself

very true. I'm not pro-cigarette, but I suppose better J. Lo smokes a cig than smoking crack like another well-known diva who is married to someone who is a former singing star himself
exactly. I don't approve of her smoking but like you said at least she isn't a crackhead.

actually, crack might make J. Lo more interesting. Granted, Whitney has totally lost all of her class and she's also lost her voice because of the drugs, but unlike Whitney, J. Lo doesn't have either of those to lose in the first place, lol.

actually, crack might make J. Lo more interesting. Granted, Whitney has totally lost all of her class and she's also lost her voice because of the drugs, but unlike Whitney, J. Lo doesn't have either of those to lose in the first place, lol.
:lol:

actually, crack might make J. Lo more interesting. Granted, Whitney has totally lost all of her class and she's also lost her voice because of the drugs, but unlike Whitney, J. Lo doesn't have either of those to lose in the first place, lol.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It might even give her some actual acting ability.;)

Britney Spears denied that she smoked cigarettes for the longest time in interviews and articles. When pictures of her lighting up and puffing away began appearing all over the place, she stopped the denials and didn't address the issue any more.

Except for one interview with Barbara Walters, where Ms. Walters brought up the infamous kiss with Madonna. Madonna complained that Britney tasted like an ashtray and that she should quit. Britney said she was going to cut back on the smoking in preparation for her In The Zone tour. Yeah, right...!!:rolleyes:

I think it's a bit disingenous that Madonna, who glamorized smoking in many provocative photographs is now demanding that Britney quit. Can you say: Hypocrite??

I think it's a bit disingenous that Madonna, who glamorized smoking in many provocative photographs is now demanding that Britney quit. Can you say: Hypocrite??

even though I love Madonna, you have a point. She smoked a lot of cigarettes in Desperately Seeking Susan and Who's That Girl and in a number of her music videos like "Bad Girl". At least more power to her for realizing what a disgusting habit it is and stopping.

actually, crack might make J. Lo more interesting. Granted, Whitney has totally lost all of her class and she's also lost her voice because of the drugs, but unlike Whitney, J. Lo doesn't have either of those to lose in the first place, lol.
Whitney smokes cigarettes too.

I hate Jho and I don't care abt the beeeotch. But I hate people that spew garbage out that they don't smoke and they are caught doing it. If she is going to smoke, to hell with her, I don't care, let her smoke, but she doesn't need to say one thing and do another. But what do you expect from a ho who has been married three times. She doesn't take her vows seriously, so I don't take her seriously. Marc looks like he is ready to go to his deathbed.

that reminds me of how she eats healthy...
:rofl:

I think it's a bit disingenous that Madonna, who glamorized smoking in many provocative photographs is now demanding that Britney quit. Can you say: Hypocrite??


Here's a rundown on Madge Goofus versus Madge Gallant:

Madge Goofus extols the values of marrying for money in "Material GIrl."
Madge Gallant renounces said values in "Express Yourself."

Madge Goofus makes a video filled with KKK-style burning crosses.
Madge Gallant criticizes Sinead O'Connor for tearing up a picture of the Pope on TV becasuse it offended people.

Madge Goofus does a public service ad in 1990 urging people to vote when she's not even registered to.
Madge Gallant, from 1991 on, talks about how "political" she is.

Madge Goous does a pot-smoking scene in Desparately Seeking Susan.
Madge Gallant declares she doesn't need drugs or drug imagery to further her career.

Madge Goofus makes churlishly sacrilegous videos mocking Catholic icons and ironically playing on her own name.
Madge Gallant names her daughter Lourdes and wonders if Pope John Paul II might bless her.

Madge Goofus makes it to the top of pop charts with television exposure.
Madge Gallant refuses to let her children watch television - even "Sesame Street" - because "television is poison."

Madge Goofus appears at a fashion show wearing a breast-exposing Jean-Paul Gautier leather dress.
Madge Gallant chides LaToya Jackson a few years eariler for doing anything to save her career by posing nude in Playboy.

Madge Goofus offers unsolicited advice to various celelbrities, including Ben and J-Lo.
Madge Gallant feels for Princess Diana and how people always invaded her privacy.

Madge Goofus declares her hatred for one of the most loved rock groups in the world by declaring, "The Grateful Dead? YECCCCCCCCCCH!"
Madge Gallant says, "I hate people who hate."

I can say "hypocrite" very well, thank you. :lol:

Carrie Underwood is better then J-Lo :D

Carrie Underwood is better then J-Lo :D
:yeahthat

Here's a rundown on Madge Goofus versus Madge Gallant:

Madge Goofus extols the values of marrying for money in "Material GIrl."
Madge Gallant renounces said values in "Express Yourself."

Madge Goofus makes a video filled with KKK-style burning crosses.
Madge Gallant criticizes Sinead O'Connor for tearing up a picture of the Pope on TV becasuse it offended people.

Madge Goofus does a public service ad in 1990 urging people to vote when she's not even registered to.
Madge Gallant, from 1991 on, talks about how "political" she is.

Madge Goous does a pot-smoking scene in Desparately Seeking Susan.
Madge Gallant declares she doesn't need drugs or drug imagery to further her career.

Madge Goofus makes churlishly sacrilegous videos mocking Catholic icons and ironically playing on her own name.
Madge Gallant names her daughter Lourdes and wonders if Pope John Paul II might bless her.

Madge Goofus makes it to the top of pop charts with television exposure.
Madge Gallant refuses to let her children watch television - even "Sesame Street" - because "television is poison."

Madge Goofus appears at a fashion show wearing a breast-exposing Jean-Paul Gautier leather dress.
Madge Gallant chides LaToya Jackson a few years eariler for doing anything to save her career by posing nude in Playboy.

Madge Goofus offers unsolicited advice to various celelbrities, including Ben and J-Lo.
Madge Gallant feels for Princess Diana and how people always invaded her privacy.

Madge Goofus declares her hatred for one of the most loved rock groups in the world by declaring, "The Grateful Dead? YECCCCCCCCCCH!"
Madge Gallant says, "I hate people who hate."

I can say "hypocrite" very well, thank you. :lol:
The difference between Madonna then and Madonna now is that she has grown, matured and knows things better. Even she has stated that in interviews. She stated that all she thought abt was herself. J-HO wouldn't say that now or will she ever. Jho is all abt herself forever. At least Madonna can admit mistakes. JHO is one living breathing mistake.


Most Def Carrie Underwood is way better than JHO. Everyone who can sing is better than JHO!!!!!

that reminds me of how she eats healthy...
Oh god I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

The difference between Madonna then and Madonna now is that she has grown, matured and knows things better. Even she has stated that in interviews. She stated that all she thought about was herself. J-HO wouldn't say that now or will she ever. Jho is all abt herself forever. At least Madonna can admit mistakes. JHO is one living breathing mistake.

Her "mistakes" - cross burning, narcissism, overt sexuality - are what made her a star! If she hadn't made those "mistakes," she'd never have made it as a pop star and she'd be married to someone in the Detroit Mafia today! If she's matured, why is she still doing teenage dance music? Shouldn't she be crooining Eidth Piaf ballads or something? Wait, I shouldn't be giving her any ideas!!!!!

that's another thing that I found hypocritical about Madonna. When she came out with "Human Nature" a decade ago, she famously says "absolutely no regrets" and is unapologetic about everything she's done in her career... then a few years later, she ends up saying she did have regrets. I've even heard talk that she wants "Truth Or Dare" out of circulation because she's afraid of what her children might think watching it. Come on, Truth Or Dare is very much a product of its time and era, Madonna was still a few years away from motherhood, so I don't see why she is that offended by it. Outside of the Evian bottle scene, I don't think there's that much that you'd think she would be embarassed by if in 10 years, sits her teenage kids down and puts it on. I personally would be more embarassed by my kids coming across Body Of Evidence or Shanghai Surprise, but that's just me.

She's also expressed a lot of "why did I do this?" over Sex.... and when you think about it, why did she do it in the first place if down the road she was going to be petrified that her children would find out she did a sex book? I have the Sex book, but I think all in all, that the 1992-1993 period of her career was a dark era and outside of Deeper And Deeper and Bad Girl, perhaps her most forgettable period

Her "mistakes" - cross burning, narcissism, overt sexuality - are what made her a star! If she hadn't made those "mistakes," she'd never have made it as a pop star and she'd be married to someone in the Detroit Mafia today! If she's matured, why is she still doing teenage dance music? Shouldn't she be crooining Eidth Piaf ballads or something? Wait, I shouldn't be giving her any ideas!!!!!

Maturity doesn't sell records. At least not where Madonna's concerned. Her last album, American Life had some political content and it tanked. Her first flop album ever.

Madonna got - pun firmly intended - back into the groove and now she's selling albums once again. And she's got a hit single, to boot. Madonna may be "mature" but she's not stupid.

Just when it seemed like she was down for the count, she came right back. You may or may not like Madonna, but you have to give her credit for enduring as a icon who continues to have an impact on popular culture.

I don't get how Madonna is making "teenage dance music". Just because she's making dance music doesn't mean she;s making teen stuff. Donna Summer and Cher have both a decade on Madonna and their recent music has been dance for the most part too.

Just because a song is dance doesn't automatically equate "this is something Britney does", I don't hear ANY Hillary/Lindsey/Britney similarities in "Isaac" or "Future Lovers" from her most recent cd. I know Steve hates dance music, but not all dance music is the same... there is a vast difference between Aqua's "Barbie Girl" and the bulk of the club tracks Madonna has recorded in the past decade (except for maybe "Music")

What I don't understand is this immunity Madge gets from the press for putting out pop records at her age. Let's go back to 1989 for a moment. When Paul McCarntey was her age, he recorded Flowers In the Dirt, and depsite some critical acclaim and a successful solo tour, there was little markteting of it and it produced no hit singles. When the Stones toured to support Steel Wheels that same year - Mick Jagger being 46 - the press dubbed it the "Steel Wheelchairs" tour. When Crosby, Stills and Nash (their average age in 1989 was 46.3) appeared at the Berlin Wall to play a brief set to celebrate the Wall's opening, one critic accused them of perpretrating a publicity stunt to "prop up the remains of a pitiful, burnt-out career," and chided that the Wall just become irrelevant "like the trio long before."

So, why does Madge get away with selling dance records at 47 and carrying on like a teenager at discos, as Liz Smith (favorably) reported her doing a couple of months ago? How was her cross-burning stunt more culturally relevant than showing solidarity with Berliners throwing off fifty years of oppression? How come no one chides her for being an oldies act, even as her most recent tour was mostly devoted to redoing her oldies and even as the acts I just mentioned always play their most recent compostions when they go on tour? Why is no one telling Madge to act her age? Oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm comparing apples to a kumquat! Macca, the Stones, and CSN are rock acts; Madge is a pop act, and thus could conceivably go on until she's eighty and not look like she's not acting her age because rock is strictly for the young and pop is age-transcending.

So how is going to keep shaking her booty when she's a senior citizen? Hmm, maybe I'd better buy Geritol stock just before 2023 (when Madge is 65!). :D

What I don't understand is this immunity Madge gets from the press for putting out pop records at her age. Let's go back to 1989 for a moment. When Paul McCarntey was her age, he recorded Flowers In the Dirt, and depsite some critical acclaim and a successful solo tour, there was little markteting of it and it produced no hit singles. When the Stones toured to support Steel Wheels that same year - Mick Jagger being 46 - the press dubbed it the "Steel Wheelchairs" tour. When Crosby, Stills and Nash (their average age in 1989 was 46.3) appeared at the Berlin Wall to play a brief set to celebrate the Wall's opening, one critic accused them of perpretrating a publicity stunt to "prop up the remains of a pitiful, burnt-out career," and chided that the Wall just become irrelevant "like the trio long before."

So, why does Madge get away with selling dance records at 47 and carrying on like a teenager at discos, as Liz Smith (favorably) reported her doing a couple of months ago? How was her cross-burning stunt more culturally relevant than showing solidarity with Berliners throwing off fifty years of oppression? How come no one chides her for being an oldies act, even as her most recent tour was mostly devoted to redoing her oldies and even as the acts I just mentioned always play their most recent compostions when they go on tour? Why is no one telling Madge to act her age? Oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm comparing apples to a kumquat! Macca, the Stones, and CSN are rock acts; Madge is a pop act, and thus could conceivably go on until she's eighty and not look like she's not acting her age because rock is strictly for the young and pop is age-transcending.

So how is going to keep shaking her booty when she's a senior citizen? Hmm, maybe I'd better buy Geritol stock just before 2023 (when Madge is 65!). :D

It's all a matter of perception and marketing. If they market or spin a certain celebrity a certain way and the public buys it, then they can do whatever they like. Many people like Madonna, so they tend to look the other way and let things slide.

It's funny that the Stones were being rided for being old when they weren't even in their fifties yet. Now, they're well into their sixties and very few people call them old anymore.

Madonna has an incredible knack for reinventing herself and reviving herself just when it seems like she's done. Her last album was her first-ever bomb and she's rebounded with another big hit. Like it or not, the woman's got legs! And I'm not talking about the ones attached to her body, either.:cool:

It's all a matter of perception and marketing. If they market or spin a certain celebrity a certain way and the public buys it, then they can do whatever they like. Many people like Madonna, so they tend to look the other way and let things slide.

It's funny that the Stones were being rided for being old when they weren't even in their fifties yet. Now, they're well into their sixties and very few people call them old anymore.

Madonna has an incredible knack for reinventing herself and reviving herself just when it seems like she's done. Her last album was her first-ever bomb and she's rebounded with another big hit. Like it or not, the woman's got legs! And I'm not talking about the ones attached to her body, either.:cool:

She's a drag! A drag on popular music! She made herself famous with videos that were more important than the music, and a lot of talentless popsters followed her lead! And singers with genuine talent - Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey - found themselves pushing image instead of developing their natural talents into distinctive voices, largely at the pressure from their record companies. (Whitney Houston was a great gospel singer before Clive Davis turned her into a bland dance-pop singer. Madge made presentation more important than ability, style more important than substance. Also, she created a pop world where electric guitar groups need not bother with chart success becauise that's not the kind of music she wants to promote! It is, however, the kind of music she wants to squelch!

Even if I regarded Madge as a major musical talent - which I do not - I wouldn't want her in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame becasue she's not a rocker. I like James Taylor a lot, but he doesn't beong in there either. Neither does Billy Joel, who's more Neil Diamond than Neil Young. If Madge gets in in 2009 and Britney gets in in 2024, you might as well take Paul McCartney's advice and call the place the Popular Music Hall of Fame.

And if you induct J-Lo, you'd better take Macca's advice!

Either way, Family - a rock band - will continue to be shut out. But hey, they're not famous! This is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, not the Rock and Roll Hall of Recognition and Acknowledgment! :rolleyes:

What I don't understand is this immunity Madge gets from the press for putting out pop records at her age. Let's go back to 1989 for a moment. When Paul McCarntey was her age, he recorded Flowers In the Dirt, and depsite some critical acclaim and a successful solo tour, there was little markteting of it and it produced no hit singles. When the Stones toured to support Steel Wheels that same year - Mick Jagger being 46 - the press dubbed it the "Steel Wheelchairs" tour. When Crosby, Stills and Nash (their average age in 1989 was 46.3) appeared at the Berlin Wall to play a brief set to celebrate the Wall's opening, one critic accused them of perpretrating a publicity stunt to "prop up the remains of a pitiful, burnt-out career," and chided that the Wall just become irrelevant "like the trio long before."

So, why does Madge get away with selling dance records at 47 and carrying on like a teenager at discos, as Liz Smith (favorably) reported her doing a couple of months ago? How was her cross-burning stunt more culturally relevant than showing solidarity with Berliners throwing off fifty years of oppression? How come no one chides her for being an oldies act, even as her most recent tour was mostly devoted to redoing her oldies and even as the acts I just mentioned always play their most recent compostions when they go on tour? Why is no one telling Madge to act her age? Oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm comparing apples to a kumquat! Macca, the Stones, and CSN are rock acts; Madge is a pop act, and thus could conceivably go on until she's eighty and not look like she's not acting her age because rock is strictly for the young and pop is age-transcending.

So how is going to keep shaking her booty when she's a senior citizen? Hmm, maybe I'd better buy Geritol stock just before 2023 (when Madge is 65!). :D

times have changed big time from the 80's to now... partially in thanks to McCartney, Stones, Tina Turner, etc... pushing the age boundaries further and further. Even ten years ago, the idea of people paying to see rock legends in their sixties was unheard of... now we have just that by seeing the Stones, Tina, McCartney, Paul Simon, Rod Stewart and The Who among others still sell out tours. With more and more rock icons entering their sixties, there is more and more leeway for "younger" acts to last longer without being thought of as elderly. While turning forty was seen as "getting old" at one time, it was these artists among others who really paved the way for everyone else by not going into retirement and becoming oldies artists, but by staying around and staying relevant. While Paul McCartney being 47 was seen as ancient in 1989, a lot of rock stars have turned sixty recently without phasing anybody, it's become expected.

About Madonna being "too old to do dance music", Cher released Believe when she was 52 and it was her biggest selling album ever. Barbra Streisand is 63 and she just recently scored a #2 hit on the dance chart with club mixes. Hell, Yoko Ono, who is old enough to be Madonna's mom, finally found a niche that embraces her when she went the "dance diva" route a couple years back and rerecorded a lot of her 70's and 80's tracks that went unnoticed the first time around as dance songs, and actually had hits with those same records.

Even if I regarded Madge as a major musical talent - which I do not - I wouldn't want her in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame becasue she's not a rocker. I like James Taylor a lot, but he doesn't beong in there either. Neither does Billy Joel, who's more Neil Diamond than Neil Young. If Madge gets in in 2009 and Britney gets in in 2024, you might as well take Paul McCartney's advice and call the place the Popular Music Hall of Fame.

I don't understand why r&b and Motown artists in the HOF is perfectly fine yet the likes of Billy Joel or James Taylor don't. I don't think Ray Charles or Aretha Franklin sound any more like The Who than Billy Joel does. Hell, has Ray ever had a "rock" song? at least Aretha had a few in the mid-80's.

If Madonna gets in, I think it's going to be more likely than Britney ever will. Madonna has at least received critical respect in her career, Britney hasn't. Britney was hyped from day one to become "the new Madonna" yet she hasn't changed one bit since Baby One More Time. At this point in Britney's career from her debut, Madonna was teaching people to vogue and going on a Blond Ambition tour that really took her icon status to the next level... yet Britney has yet to release an album that got the reviews that Like A Prayer has... and I doubt she ever will since she is still stuck on her Like A Virgin era.

I think Britney will be in the Hall Of Fame around the same time Starland Vocal Band and Don Johnson get in.

I don't understand why r&b and Motown artists in the HOF is perfectly fine yet the likes of Billy Joel or James Taylor don't. I don't think Ray Charles or Aretha Franklin sound any more like The Who than Billy Joel does. Hell, has Ray ever had a "rock" song? at least Aretha had a few in the mid-80's.

If it wasn't for r&b, there would be no rock & roll.

Rock & roll is an outgrowth of the music that Ray Charles pioneered. And Ray rocks - just in a different way. He smokes!

If it wasn't for r&b, there would be no rock & roll.

Rock & roll is an outgrowth of the music that Ray Charles pioneered. And Ray rocks - just in a different way. He smokes!

I know I know that Elvis stole from the blacks to make rock popular with the whites... but when you see a lot of Motown acts who were not rock at all, and were after Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis, in the HOF, I think pop artists belong too. I mean, seriously... The Staples Singers have merited a spot in the HOF while James Taylor and Billy Joel, two artists who came out in the same time and have been infinately more durable, don't?

IMO, the HOF shouldn't be "how many people have rocked out to this artist", instead about how culturally relevant yet also successful the artist is. Billy Joel might not insight riots at his concerts, but you cannot deny the man has been very successful and somewhat relevant over the past thirty years, so IMO, he earned his spot in the HOF.

Britney Spears denied that she smoked cigarettes for the longest time in interviews and articles. When pictures of her lighting up and puffing away began appearing all over the place, she stopped the denials and didn't address the issue any more.

I think it's a bit disingenous that Madonna, who glamorized smoking in many provocative photographs is now demanding that Britney quit.

Everyone was telling Brit to quit when she got pregnant, but as Bill Maher said, it was too late to worry about the baby's DNA when half of it was already Kevin Federline's! :brent