I usually DVR my Unsolved Mysteries and watch them later at night.. :eek: because I am usually unable to watch it when it airs in the mornings.
Anyhow, last night, I watched the Charlotte Pollis case, in which she dissapeared and is thought to have been murdered by her husband, with possible help from his family, who claims he is innocent. I wanted to know if there were any updates on this case, and if her dissapearance/death was put to justice?

In my opinon, all fingers pointed to her husband. There were so many holes in his story and so much pointing to him being the murderer.

Any updates?
If not, what do you guys think?

In the same episode was the 21-year old girl who was an outspoken advocate against drunk driving, who was ironically killed by a drunk driver later herself. The driver, I believe her name was Grace escaped, and I was wondering if there were any updates or anything on this case either.

Thanks. :)

It really breaks my heart when I see cases like this, and you REALLY REALLY want them to be solved or for there to be an update, but they give out the address and go onto the next story. :( :(

Charlotte Pollis is still profiled at the Doe Network site. So this means the she is still missing. :(

Charlotte Pollis is still profiled at the Doe Network site. So this means the she is still missing. :(

That's so sad! :(

If you do a search on this board you will find someone who posted a few months back that used to work with or for Paul Pollis. He talked about how strange Pollis would act and the outrageous things he would say. I think Paul Pollis is responsible for his wife's disappearance as well. Incidentally, did you know that Charlotte's mom abducted Charlotte's daughter (who Paul had custody of) and as far as I know they are still missing?

The students name was Angela Maher and the drunk driver who hit her was Gloria Schulze. This may have been posted before but here is an article from a few years back and as of then anyway she was still on the run.

http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special21/articles/0531warrants31.html

If you do a search on this board you will find someone who posted a few months back that used to work with or for Paul Pollis. He talked about how strange Pollis would act and the outrageous things he would say. I think Paul Pollis is responsible for his wife's disappearance as well. Incidentally, did you know that Charlotte's mom abducted Charlotte's daughter (who Paul had custody of) and as far as I know they are still missing?

The students name was Angela Maher and the drunk driver who hit her was Gloria Schulze. This may have been posted before but here is an article from a few years back and as of then anyway she was still on the run.

http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special21/articles/0531warrants31.html

Thank you so much, crystaldawn!
I did not know that Charlotte's mom abudcted her grandaugter. Didn't they say she might have been "coercing" her to say things, recalling her mother's murder?

And it's a shame that Gloria Schulze is still on the run. The last words mother and daughter had were so sad. :(

I will do a search for Pollis, thanks again. :)

My pleasure. Here's a webpage about the missing daughter, Layla.

http://www.nampn.doenetwork.us/cases/pollis_layla.html

Anyone else think that Paul totally had his family help him stash Charlotte's body? I thought that the mother seemed like she was hiding something... it was just something about the way she interviewed with UM that made me think she was guilty... and what about all the cleaning of the house, eh? Strange stuff.

Anyone else think that Paul totally had his family help him stash Charlotte's body? I thought that the mother seemed like she was hiding something... it was just something about the way she interviewed with UM that made me think she was guilty... and what about all the cleaning of the house, eh? Strange stuff.

I completely agree!

I totally agree I to think that paul is responsible for his wifes disappearance and that his family helped him dipose of her body.

I totally agree I to think that paul is responsible for his wifes disappearance and that his family helped him dipose of her body.

I feel the same way. The problem, of course, is that it's another one of those cases where they have too little evidence (if any) to indict anyone.

I'm sure the cops don't want to be too quick to arrest and charge someone in the case without establishing enough evidence, especially since we have double jeopardy laws. I mean, if the cops were to do that, only to have the suspect (or suspects) acquitted, and then discover new incriminating evidence afterwards, then they would be screwed!

I've been thinking a lot lately about Layla Pollis (Charlotte and Paul's daughter) being abducted by her grandma. Although she definitely didn't endear herself in her UM interview you have to feel a little sympathy for her if she broke the law because she thought she was protecting her granddaughter from someone whom she believed (as most of us do) killed her daughter. Its strange though as it seems she has left her husband when she abducted Layla. It said Layla was last seen at her grandparent's house and then goes on to say that the grandmother and her are still missing. It mentioned they could be in NYC, Dearborn or Yemen. The grandmother would only be 59 and Layla 13 by my calculations. It seems very possible that they did go to another country as they haven't been located. I know Charlotte and Paul also had a son and am curious as to why she didn't try to abduct him too. Any thoughts or opinions out there?

Good thinking, Crystaldawn! I have no idea why she would take only the daughter and not the son. That in itself is very strange. How old was the son by the way? Was he younger than the daughter? Maybe he was too young to remember anything? Maybe that had something to do with it? I doubt it because it doesn't make sense though. Truly an unsolved mystery within an unsolved mystery!

This is an old thread by now but I want to bring this back up. After thinking more about the case, there are three possibilities:

1. Paul murdered Charlotte, or had someone else murder her, and the disposed of the body, likely with help. Interestingly enough, there was no insurance involved (apparently). Paul's stories contradict what witnesses had to say. However, it's hard to substantiate Charlotte's family's story because they could possibly have motives to not tell the truth. For example, Charlotte's sister was the only one who claimed to see footprints towards the shed. There may not have been any footprints and that could have been made up later.

2. Charlotte faked her death, with aid from her family, to get away from Paul. However I think she'd take the children. Also, there could have been a plan to have Charlotte disappear and then blame Paul for the murder, thereby getting the children to Charlotte's family. It's noteworthy that Charlotte's mother, Charlotte Nagi, later disappeared in 1998 along with Layla Pollis, Paul and Charlotte's daughter. Maybe Charlotte, her mother, and daughter are together. It's interesting that only the daughter is missing, not the son.

3. Charlotte was the victim of an abduction - unlikely.

I certainly think Paul Pollis killed Charlotte. I will say there is a very slim chance she staged her disappearance. They really made no mention of any problems in the marriage though which doesn't make sense in any scenario. Even Charlotte's family made no mention of him being abusive in the past or them being on the brink of divorce. They clearly in the interview seemed to think he had something to do with her disappearance, surely they would have made mentioned of any problems in the past with him and her that would corroborate that. (Of course who knows what parts of the interview UM edits out). I don't really understand a motive either unless they were arguing and in a fit of rage pushed her or something and she hit her head, something like that. What doesn't make sense to me is the timing! She was very ill and just got back from the ER right before she disappeared. It just seems very strange to me that it happened while she was so sick. Of course that also blows away the theory that she left of her free will. I'm sure the ER can substantiate that she came in and was very sick and hardly in the mindset to run away and abandon her children. Another fact that leads me to lean toward his guilt is the neighbor, apparently an impartial witness. She said Paul had the car backed up to the car and it was full of boxes or bags. A horrible thought but if he did do something to her and all (or part) of her was put in a trash bag there may be some validity to what they claim the daughter said about "mommy being put in a trash bag" although I certainly wouldn't put it past the Nagi's to have coached her. Plus no one seen him with his children that day as he stated they were with him. That would have given him plenty of time to dispose of her body. Anyway just some of my thoughts.

I'm with you, Crystaldawn. As I stated earlier in the thread, his family was acting completely suspicious in the UM interviews. There was a point where the mother stated something like, "Well, that's just absurd!" and to me, it seemed completely insincere. In addition, the family helped Paul clean the house, and the authorities even noted HOW clean the house was, which tells me that it was unusually clean.

I disregard what the daughter said because I do believe that she was most likely coached. In spite of that, however, I think that most of the evidence, albeit circumstantial, points at Paul Polis and his family.

Well, here's plenty more ammo pointing to Paul Pollis being weird at best, and with an obvious temper. This doesn't prove murder but I bet he didn't exactly diminish as a suspect based on these incidents. This is a cached article, BTW. The original source was not available. That accounts for the highlighted terms if you click on the link: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:QttWL-bnI-UJ:www.tribune-chronicle.com/news/story/0124202006_new07howland24.asp+Charlotte+Pollis&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7&client=firefox-a



Howland man ordered to turn in guns

By CHRISTOPHER BOBBY Tribune Chronicle

WARREN - A 39-year-old Howland man whose wife disappeared in 1994 was ordered Monday to turn over all firearms he owns to the Howland Police Department.

When Paul Pollis turns over the guns, it most likely will be taken into consideration when he is sentenced for a conviction of carrying a concealed weapon, court officials said.

Pollis of Southwind Drive N.E. will first undergo a presentence investigation and background check ordered by Trumbull County Common Pleas Judge Peter Kontos.

Charges of improper handling of a firearm in a motor vehicle and having weapons under disability because of a prior conviction were dismissed in exchange for Pollis' guilty plea Monday. He remains free on $50,000 bond.

Pollis was arrested on Memorial Day 2005 after police say he confronted police Chief Paul Monroe in the driveway of his home, gave a fake name and had a gun between his leg and the console of his Jeep.

In June, a Trumbull County grand jury issued a three-count indictment against Pollis. He was ordered to have no contact with the chief at that time.

Pollis also was charged with domestic violence Jan. 10 and is free on a personal recognizance bond in Warren Municipal Court.

According to a Howland police report, Deborah Toda, 48, said she and Pollis had an argument in their bedroom, and she asked him to leave. The report said she claimed he pushed her on her left shoulder while she was in bed, and he left the room.

She also told police her boyfriend broke two fingers on her left hand earlier in the week but that she did not report it.

Toda told police that Pollis broke Christmas ornaments in the living room, then went outside and threw a liquor bottle at the kitchen window. Police said they saw broken glass on the living room floor as well as the broken kitchen window and found the liquor bottle outside.

This is not the first domestic call to the couple's home. Howland police were called Aug. 29, when Toda reported a door was slammed into her and she was pushed to the floor. Police said at that time that Toda was bruised and scratched, but she did not need medical attention.

In March 1994, Pollis reported his wife, Charlotte Nagi Pollis, missing from their Girard home. The couple's two children were toddlers at the time. That case remains unsolved.

In 2002, Pollis was charged with improper handling of a firearm in a motor vehicle. The charge was amended to a disorderly conduct charge, of which Pollis was convicted."

I agree with Crystaldawn because there was nothing mentioned about marital problems. Mrs. Nagi stated something like "I think Paul lost his temper...and he struck her..." It would also be easier to "do away" with someone especially if they are in a drug-induced sedation state.

This case definitely deserves further investigation, but I think it's hard to do anything at this point with little evidence and no body.

I wonder why the article about Paul never mentions his daughter's abduction. I'm convinced that's Charlotte's daughter as a "Layla Pollis" abducted from Ohio by "Charlotte Nagi" could only be in that family, no doubt.

Interesting article that shows he is known to be violent towards women he's involved with.

Nice research skills Awsi.....you've impressed me twice in one week. :)

Paul Pollis looks very guilty. Just watching the segment and you just know the guy is guilty. I was really hoping that they would have found the "clincher" like blood evidence in the Pollis home but none was found. I was really wanting some hard evidence here so this guy can get what's coming to him.

What was so suspicious was how Paul and his parents were all there the next day cleaning the house heavily. If my wife was missing I wouldn't even be thinking about cleaning the house.

However, that's all according to Charlotte's mother and brother. Paul's mother claimed all she did was clean one spill. She didn't sound that sincere and appeared to be a bad actor.

Cleaning the house heavily does imply that something was trying to be covered up.

In rewatching the case just now I thought about two additional things. First, with regards to Paul and Charlotte's daughter being coached, that was suggested by Paul's attorney, so he would probably automatically say he thinks the child is being coached.

Secondly, the account of Paul's neighbor was about the only account I had any stock in, and it's interesting how her sighting placed him at home doing something he never claimed to do. I doubt she had any reason to lie.

Paul Pollis looks very guilty. Just watching the segment and you just know the guy is guilty. I was really hoping that they would have found the "clincher" like blood evidence in the Pollis home but none was found. I was really wanting some hard evidence here so this guy can get what's coming to him.

I agree!!! But we don't really have any hard evidence, do we?

What's the chance of a case this aged getting solved?

I agree!!! But we don't really have any hard evidence, do we?

What's the chance of a case this aged getting solved?

Stranger things have happened. Where are you from in TX? I am in Lubbock.

Stranger things have happened. Where are you from in TX? I am in Lubbock.

Houston area :D

You know Wanda Holloway?

No, I don't know her.

Just thought I'd throw out a mystery of sorts. She was arrested fifteen years ago almost to this very day after she tried to hire a hitman to murder the mother of her daughter's friend who was going to beat her out for cheerleader that year. Crazy.

Just thought I'd throw out a mystery of sorts. She was arrested fifteen years ago almost to this very day after she tried to hire a hitman to murder the mother of her daughter's friend who was going to beat her out for cheerleader that year. Crazy.

I remember that story. Couldn't believe a mom would do something like this over cheerleading. How long of a jail sentence did she get?

She was convicted in 1991 about seven months after her arrest and sentenced to fifteen years. However, the case was immediately appealed the same day, and she was out on bond the same evening. The verdict was then overturned and the retrial was delayed and delayed. Meanwhile she still lived down the street from her neighbor she wanted dead. Finally in late 1996 she reached a plea bargain where she was given a ten year sentence with nine and a half years probated and she served only six months in jail.

Wanda's daughter never again tried out for cheerleading, but her rival's daughter cheered all through high school and was a college twirler.

An arrest was made today and the home swept over by the police because the husband, POLLIS, has a new "wife" who was arrested for embezzling 1.5million dollars from her employer! Also, there are police records that POLLIS was known to abuse her too! Makes one wonder why that man was not in jail a long time ago? Also...what if he did something to the gramma and daughter too? Who knows? http://www.tribunechronicle.com/include/articles.asp?articleID=5164

"local character Paul Pollis."

Wow. I've read thousands of newspaper and magazine articles and have never seen a reference like that.

:lol: I agree very much Awsi Dooger. That was hilarious: "local character Paul Pollis" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Was anyone able to see the picture in the upper right of the screen? There is a caption but the picture is marked with an 'X'.

Yeah, when the supposedly unbiased newspaper is calling you a "local character," you know something has got to be awry...

I've never been shy about saying that I think Paul Pollis and his family was involved in the disappearance of Charlotte Pollis. I think all the elements are there: he has a temper and a history of violence towards the women he's involved with, illustrated by the domestic violence claims made against him. While I recognize that this alone would not be enough to garner a conviction, there's also the whole "shed" thing that was just too strange. He wouldn't allow anyone out in the shed, and then later claimed that there was a key to the shed on Charlotte's keychain and they could have went out there at any time? Rriigghht.

Anyone else think it's sad that the woman who filed a domestic violence claim against Pollis actually married him?

I agree. Everything about Paul Pollis screams guilty, from the thorough cleaning of the house, to the shed, to his running of errands that no one can account for, to Charlotte's mom's unanswered phone calls. Unless the Nagi's are completely lying about everything, which I doubt.

I believe the neighbor when she said Paul Pollis was acting strangely, loading up his car with boxes/bags and having a weird look on his face (which was creepy, by the way) What I'm wondering is what was in those boxes? Did he chop her up and dispose of her (kind of like what was in Alfred Hitchcock's Rear Window)? Maybe that's why she hasn't been found yet.

Pollis arrested Friday at pizza shop

By MARLY KOSINSKI Tribune Chronicle

Paul G. Pollis of Howland, center, is escorted Friday (7/28/06) by Howland police officers to a Mahoning County Sheriff’s Office vehicle to be taken to the Mahoning County Jail in Youngstown.

Tribune Chronicle / Steve Schenck
HOWLAND — A township man facing charges in connection to an embezzlement scheme at a Boardman business was arrested at his own business on Friday.

Paul G. Pollis, 40, 201 Southwind Drive N.E., was arrested about 2:30 p.m. at Ianozone’s Pizza, 8050 E. Market St.

Howland police Chief Paul Monroe said Boardman police asked his department to serve a warrant on Pollis Thursday after a Mahoning County grand jury indicted him on charges of money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity, both first-degree felonies.

Also indicted Thursday was Pollis’ girlfriend, Deborah L. Toda, 48, who faces charges of aggravated grand theft, forgery, money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity.

The couple is accused of embezzling more than $1 million from the Boardman branch of North Central Pennsylvania Dialysis Clinic over a two-year period starting in 2004.

According to the indictment, prosecutors are seeking forfeiture of all the goods received by ill-gotten gains, including several high-priced vehicles and pieces of jewelry, snowmobiles, all goods and furnishings at their Southwind Drive N.E. home, the home itself, and their corporate interests, including the pizza shop and a Howland area beauty shop.

Monroe said officers were trying to serve the warrant all day Thursday and Friday morning, but were unable to locate Pollis. He said a detective staked out the pizza shop Friday and saw Pollis leaving through the back door. The detective called for backup, and officers arrested him in the parking lot, where Monroe said a van was waiting to pick him up.

Monroe said the driver of the van, Gary Schneider, 51, 31 Peach Lane S.W., Warren, was charged with driving under license suspension. A passenger in the van, Anthony D. Jones, 19, 2087 Hamilton Ave., Warren, was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia, drug abuse and possession of drugs after police found marijuana and crack cocaine in the vehicle. Jones was released from the Trumbull County Jail Friday afternoon and will be arraigned on the charges Monday.

The Mahoning County Sheriff’s Office transported Pollis to the Mahoning County Jail, where he remained Friday night. No bond was set, according to a deputy at the jail.

Toda is being held in the Mahoning County Jail on $1.5 million bond. Both are set to make their first court appearance on Aug. 8 before Mahoning County Common Pleas Judge Maureen Cronin.

Authorities state in the indictment that Toda cashed 115 checks worth more than $1.1 million on the Sky Bank account of the dialysis center and then she and Pollis laundered the money to hide the stolen proceeds.


Boardman and Howland police searched the couple’s home at 201 Southwind Drive N.E. on June 16, seizing seven vehicles, bank checks and financial records, more than 20 credit cards, jewelry, a mink coat and photographs of trips to Italy, Paris and London.

Toda was already on federal parole until November after a 2001 conviction for a similar scheme against a Niles company that landed her in prison. She served 26 of a 30-month sentence in the previous case in Niles.

Pollis has had a recent string of trouble with the law, including charges of fleeing and eluding and disorderly conduct, which was filed in connection for assaulting Toda.

In March, Pollis pleaded guilty to a charge of carrying a concealed weapon and was ordered to forfeit any firearms and was banned from using alcohol or drugs. He also was ordered to spend 30 days in jail.

In March 1994, Pollis reported his wife, Charlotte Nagi Pollis, missing from their Girard home. The couple’s two children were toddlers at the time. The case remains unsolved.

There are two things that have always convinced me of Pollis's guilt. First, he never showed up for his appointment to take the polygraph. If he was innocent and had nothing to hide, why wouldn't he just take the test and get it over with? The test would show that he didn't do anything wrong and it would get the police off his back. Secondly, if nothing connected to Charlotte's disappearance was in the shed, what was the big deal in handing over the keys to Charlotte's sister and mother? If I were Paul and I were totally innocent (which I don't think he is), I'd give them the keys for no other reason than to shut them up. As for the clean house, when a cop investigating a missing person case remarks how unsually immaculate everything is, it's probably not a good sign.

Pollis arrested Friday at pizza shop

By MARLY KOSINSKI Tribune Chronicle

Paul G. Pollis of Howland, center, is escorted Friday (7/28/06) by Howland police officers to a Mahoning County Sheriff’s Office vehicle to be taken to the Mahoning County Jail in Youngstown.

Tribune Chronicle / Steve Schenck
HOWLAND — A township man facing charges in connection to an embezzlement scheme at a Boardman business was arrested at his own business on Friday.

Paul G. Pollis, 40, 201 Southwind Drive N.E., was arrested about 2:30 p.m. at Ianozone’s Pizza, 8050 E. Market St.

Howland police Chief Paul Monroe said Boardman police asked his department to serve a warrant on Pollis Thursday after a Mahoning County grand jury indicted him on charges of money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity, both first-degree felonies.

Also indicted Thursday was Pollis’ girlfriend, Deborah L. Toda, 48, who faces charges of aggravated grand theft, forgery, money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity.

The couple is accused of embezzling more than $1 million from the Boardman branch of North Central Pennsylvania Dialysis Clinic over a two-year period starting in 2004.

According to the indictment, prosecutors are seeking forfeiture of all the goods received by ill-gotten gains, including several high-priced vehicles and pieces of jewelry, snowmobiles, all goods and furnishings at their Southwind Drive N.E. home, the home itself, and their corporate interests, including the pizza shop and a Howland area beauty shop.

Monroe said officers were trying to serve the warrant all day Thursday and Friday morning, but were unable to locate Pollis. He said a detective staked out the pizza shop Friday and saw Pollis leaving through the back door. The detective called for backup, and officers arrested him in the parking lot, where Monroe said a van was waiting to pick him up.

Monroe said the driver of the van, Gary Schneider, 51, 31 Peach Lane S.W., Warren, was charged with driving under license suspension. A passenger in the van, Anthony D. Jones, 19, 2087 Hamilton Ave., Warren, was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia, drug abuse and possession of drugs after police found marijuana and crack cocaine in the vehicle. Jones was released from the Trumbull County Jail Friday afternoon and will be arraigned on the charges Monday.

The Mahoning County Sheriff’s Office transported Pollis to the Mahoning County Jail, where he remained Friday night. No bond was set, according to a deputy at the jail.

Toda is being held in the Mahoning County Jail on $1.5 million bond. Both are set to make their first court appearance on Aug. 8 before Mahoning County Common Pleas Judge Maureen Cronin.

Authorities state in the indictment that Toda cashed 115 checks worth more than $1.1 million on the Sky Bank account of the dialysis center and then she and Pollis laundered the money to hide the stolen proceeds.


Boardman and Howland police searched the couple’s home at 201 Southwind Drive N.E. on June 16, seizing seven vehicles, bank checks and financial records, more than 20 credit cards, jewelry, a mink coat and photographs of trips to Italy, Paris and London.

Toda was already on federal parole until November after a 2001 conviction for a similar scheme against a Niles company that landed her in prison. She served 26 of a 30-month sentence in the previous case in Niles.

Pollis has had a recent string of trouble with the law, including charges of fleeing and eluding and disorderly conduct, which was filed in connection for assaulting Toda.

In March, Pollis pleaded guilty to a charge of carrying a concealed weapon and was ordered to forfeit any firearms and was banned from using alcohol or drugs. He also was ordered to spend 30 days in jail.

In March 1994, Pollis reported his wife, Charlotte Nagi Pollis, missing from their Girard home. The couple’s two children were toddlers at the time. The case remains unsolved.

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Thanks for posting that!

Well, I have believed from Day 1 that he murdered his wife & his parents helped clean up the house. Hopefully now some justice will be served.
Paul & his new girlfriend embezzled tons of money from the medical facility she worked at (this is the 2nd time she did this). He was just arrested this week for it. There also is local talk/gossip about him that he was a real weirdo. He owned a local pizza shop & some of his employees even posted about him (if you google Paul Pollis, you will find threads about him).
I hope this new charge against him will help re-open the files on his wife's disappearance!

This is a small town & I think the cops were very inexperienced to deal with this type of case. Plus, Paul Pollis' father was a respected doctor in town, so I think the cops let them have special treatment - like cleaning the house (aka - cleaning up their son's murder scene). There was even news a few years ago about the cops throwing out old eveidence - INCLUDING the files on Pollis! Charlotte's brother found out about it & I think they recovered the documents. Paul was recently arrested for embezzling with his new girlfriend - I hope they re-open the case on his wife's disapearance!

This is a small town & I think the cops were very inexperienced to deal with this type of case. Plus, Paul Pollis' father was a respected doctor in town, so I think the cops let them have special treatment - like cleaning the house (aka - cleaning up their son's murder scene). There was even news a few years ago about the cops throwing out old eveidence - INCLUDING the files on Pollis! Charlotte's brother found out about it & I think they recovered the documents. Paul was recently arrested for embezzling with his new girlfriend - I hope they re-open the case on his wife's disapearance!

Thanks for posting stoligirl. I've always thought he was responsible for his wife's disappearance as well and maybe he'll have to serve some jail time at least this time around. Since you're from around the area a few questions. I read online that Charlotte Nagi (Charlotte Pollis' mother) took Paul and Charlotte's daughter. Have the two of them ever been found? It seems strange that in all these newspaper articles about him where they mention his missing wife they never mention he has a missing daughter. Another question and you probably can't really answer this one was I wonder why the grandma would abduct the granddaughter and leave the grandson there. No doubt she thinks Paul is very dangerous and that was probably her reason for taking Layla (I think thats the granddaughters name). Any news on that or thoughts?

The one thing that stood out to me was Charlotte being sick. What if Paul had been poisoning his wife or secretly poisoning her? It was established the night before that Charlotte was sick. I believe Paul was getting his Marie Hilley on...if you get my drift. Maybe Charlotte caught on to it and threatened to expose him and he killed her...

Thats a good point DJ, I had never thought of that. I always thought it seemed strange if Paul murdered his wife (which I believe he did) in the middle of the night after she had gotten back from the ER. RS did say she was diagnosed with acute ear infection but who knows if that is entirely accurate. Maybe her symptoms were dizziness (which of course is common with ear infection) and they just gave her medicine to treat it when it could have been some sort of poisoning. Its an interesting theory.

This is crazy, because Marie Hilley is one of my favorite cases, and I never thought about crossing her with Paul Pollis. However, it's an interesting theory to consider. I still don't understand why Paul's daughter has never been mentioned in all this.

Since they never mentioned her, I'd wonder if she is Paul and Charlotte's daughter, but if her grandmother (the kidnapper) is named "Charlotte Nagi" she's certainly their daughter.

You've got to admit he's had an interesting life.

Wasn't Charlotte like a really large woman? I haven't watched this segemnt in a long time but I think she weighed over 300 pounds. If her husband did indeed kill her (which seems likely) than he either had to have someone help him dispose of a corpse so large in size or he did cut her up. Pretty grisly if you ask me.

Yes she was a heavy woman. The one thing that has always stood out to me in this case was Paul not letting anyone from Charlotte's family check that shed. If I remember correctly, her family members saw 2 sets of foot prints walking up to that shed & mentioned that that doors was bulging out. I really believe Charlotte's body was in that shed & that is why Paul wouldnt let her family see what was in that shed. He made a pretty big stink about her family members wanting to look in that shed.

I watched the episode last night. It was stated that Paul weighed 150 and Charlotte approximately 300, so he would have needed help if he killed her and disposed of her body. Paul claimed that he would have opened the shed doors if asked and claimed he didn't remember being asked. The heavy cleaning of the house by Paul and his parents is suspicious. I wonder if they had something to do with her disappearance. Their alibies should have been checked just like they checked Paul's. I'm also inclined to believe the neighbor (Nancy) who stated that she saw Paul packing boxes and bags in his car that morning.

We've had a few other theories suggested along the lines of that maybe Charlotte faked her death to get away and also that Charlotte's mother did it.

It was stated that Paul weighed 150 and Charlotte approximately 300

Wow, I guess I know what his motive was!

I grew up with Paul Pollis in Warren, Ohio and attended the same schools as him. His parents are very respected in the community and were very nice people. Needless to say, I have a hard time believing that the issue of his father being the Trumbull County Corner never came into any of this. Who else would have the resources to dispose of a body that size? I admit, I have not seen this episode, but talk to alot of people that still live in the area and keep me informed on the happenings. Dr. and Mrs. Pollis have had hardships with their sons mainly. The oldest, married to a neighbor, hung himself shortly after getting married. The next son, was forever breaking into his fathers office looking for drugs. Their 2 girls actually turned out to be professionals. Then there is Paul, need I say more. Who knows what lenghths a parent would go to for their children under the circumstances. I pray that this is not the case, but will we ever know.

This is important information. We had heard that he was a respected physician but if he was also the county coroner that brings new meaning. I had wondered after hearing that his father was a physician about the theory that Paul's parents could have helped him dispose of Charlotte's body. Now that sounds more plausible.

Here's still more reasons why I think Paul is guilty:

The segment stated that the only thing everyone agreed on was that Charlotte had been to the hospital the night before she disappeared. According to Paul, the next day, she was still in bed resting when her mother called. Her mother was a little bit suprised that she was still in bed and asked if she was ok. According to Paul, not too long after this, he took the kids with him and spent many hours running errands. Now it would seem like if Charlotte was sick enough to the point that she had to go to the hosptial, wouldn't Paul have stayed home looking after her? What if she needed something, and was too sick to get it herself?

Also, I'm not sure if this has been talked about before or not, but Charlotte's purse was found in the house and not even Paul had an explanation for that one. I'm a guy, but it would seem like most women would not go anywhere without their purse. If they did, it would be with the intention that they were coming back for it fairly soon and Charlotte never did come back for it.

Just seems too unlikely that someone would go from being sick, and within several hours, feel fine and get up and leave. None of her friends and family have seen her since which makes me think she didn't disappear by herself.

Yes. Paul said Charlotte wouldn't go anywhere without her purse.

Also, some others in town substantiated his claim that he was around running errands, but nobody saw the children with him.

"local character Paul Pollis."

Wow. I've read thousands of newspaper and magazine articles and have never seen a reference like that.
That reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons where the headline for the newspaper is "Local nut at it again", in reference to Homer.

A friend of mine from college grew up in Girard and moved back there this year. I asked him some time ago if he had ever heard the name Paul Pollis and he said he definitely had.

As charlotte's brother, the daughter was never coached also no one tells about how the daughter underwent hypnosis but was quickly told it could not be used ,as anyone in the field will tell you one can not lie under hypnosis also the allibye paul left on my answering machine never panned out everything he said was false also why would you be freaking out according to his message he left me , call me as soon as you get this message i don't care what time it is i'am really starting to freak out , we been told time after time don't forget who his father is he was the cornor as i said then big whip , his brother and mother and father were there around the clock the night of her dissiparence , the brother even states how he had to bring his mothers stationwagon over that night, also i been involved in law enforcement for many yrs now and have been on top of this case for the last 12 yrs 365 days a yr there is not a move he makes with out me knowing about it example public records
memorial day 2005 he goes to police chief's house with a gun ,Nov 13 2005 Driving violation,Nov 18 2005 2 driving violations and a domestic,nov 21 2005 speeding violation, Dec 12, 2005 appears in court for chief of police case, Jan 9 2006 reckless driving ,Jan 9 2006 court continued ,Jan 20 2006 Domestic ,jan 20 2006 court for police chief ,Jan 25 2006 Speeding,Feb 17 2006 Domestic violence court, Feb 17 2006 operation for disregard for safety, Feb 24 2006,arrested by warren police,Mar 13 2006 sentencing but wasn't able to get his interview with parol board because he was in jail so he gets a continueance,Mar 21 2006Harassment,assault & battery, Apr,5 2006 Hearing for violation of probation,May 1 2006 Fleeing warren police,Mar,27 2006 Failure to comply w/ officer held w/o bond,Mar 27 sentenced for cheif of police recives 5 yrs probation 30 days jail and has to surrender all fire arms to police shall i continue? would any one else keep getting a smack on the wrist ? I highly doubt it we would of been up the river by now with out a paddle , i strongly belive mommy and daddy had alot to do with it being covered up , his brother once told me in court if i was able to get paul and cut his fingers off one by one he would squeel like a rat then refused to finish talking to me by the advise of his attorney ,

also his brother is now a registered oriental sex offender

I don't see what the hell that has to do with anything? Plus, that kind of goes against what you said. Wouldn't you think that if "mommy and daddy" were able to cover up something as big as a murder, that they would be able to keep their other son off the registered sex offender list, which is nowhere near the caliber of being accused of a homocide? Seriously, that last little bit you posted made me care nothing about the rest of your post. Sorry!

NEWS Vindy Basic

Dumping of files prompts concern

Published: Tue, Mar 1, 2005

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The mayor says he's sure the police were careful.

GIRARD — Several police files tossed into a trash bin will be reviewed one more time, just to be sure they're no longer needed, Mayor James J. Melfi said.

The records had been locked in a room since the police department relocated three years ago from its former Main Street quarters to the first floor of the new justice center, Melfi said.

Police reviewed the files over time to satisfy themselves they weren't active cases, were duplicate records or just weren't needed, he said. "We were careful."

Remodeling ongoing in city hall resulted in these files — including "hundreds of mug shots" from the 1950s, '60s and '70s — getting dumped over the weekend.

"It's material that should have been thrown out years ago but wasn't," Melfi said. "Just junk."

Janitor had permission

The mayor stressed that a janitor had permission to dispose of the material as remodeling goes on at that end of the building, which is attached to the justice center.


The city doesn't have a shredder that can handle such a large amount of paperwork, the mayor explained. Also, the bulk of the material was grant applications, old schedules and nonconfidential police material, he said.

The family of a missing Girard woman, however, learned of their disposal and expressed concern. Some of the documents are from the case of Charlotte Nagi Pollis, reported missing in March 1994.

The Nagi Pollis documents in the trash bin are believed to be duplicates already contained in the two or three large storage boxes police are keeping in the case, which does remain open, Melfi explained.

Her brother Ali Nagi Jr. brought the matter to authorities' attention.

Now, the trash bin is locked, and the items inside will get another review, Melfi said. "We're going to make sure that nothing was overlooked. It's that simple."

boycamel I believe you mentioned you were Charlotte's brother. Can you tell us whether Layla Pollis and her grandmother are still missing? Thanks!

http://www.forthelost.org/family/lpollis.html

Well to Charlotte's brother. I dont blame you for being mad and angry and hurt and all that. I cant imagine what that feels llike to have your sister disappear and never return. Most of the people on here think Paul Pollis is a scumbag including myself. However at the same time I agree with dislimb the fact that Pollis's brother is a sex offender really doesnt mean squat. It certainly doesnt determine whether he is a bad person or not. I am glad you posted on here. However it seems that you are a bit paranoid about the whole system. You seem to think there is some kind of massive cover up by not only Paul Pollis and his parents but also by the police and the local government. The thing is did Paul murder your sister? He probably did. Did he need the help of probably two individuals at least to dispose of her body? Yes. Could these be his parents? Yes. However unlike his parents Paul seemed to hardly be a respected member of the community. The police didnt seem to think too highly of him so I dont know why they would be covering his behind. The thing is it is hard to convict someone of murder without a body. Sometimes people get convicted without one but other times there is an acquittal only for the b ody or evidence to be found afterwards and then that person cannot be re-tried. That is why Paul has not been tried. If he was acquitted and then the body was found they could not re-try him. It appears he might be going to prison this time for that money laundering thing so at least he is doing a few years. Hopefully you find the answers you are looking for and find peace at some point.

Saying that being a "sex offender really doesn't mean squat" is one of the stupidest things I've read one these boards in a long time. I don't know what his particular crime was, but in general, sex offenders commit some of our most heinous crimes. Bundy, Gacy and BTK etc. were all sex offenders. Of course, some sex offenses are minor, but in general, if we publically hung many of these people, our world would be a better place.

Well I think you took the quote out of context. I wasnt saying being a sex offender didnt mean squat. What I meant was Pollis's former brother in law said that Pollis was a bad person and must have murdered his sister because his brother is a sex offender. I was saying when you are making that comparison being a sex offender does not mean squat.

I wasn't saying because of his brother paul did what he did my refrence to pauls brother was to show that his family claims they are well respected in the community,what i was trying to get across was how respected can one be when their kids are constantly being in the news for breaking one law or another , i guess after almost 13yrs eventually Justice will be served either here on earth (hopefully ) or when he faces the creator God, do i belive his dads influence had something to do with the case absoutley as the ex coroner of the area it makes me wonder ,especially when that was all the police and prosecutors would keep reminding everyone of well i thank everyone for all theire prayers and concerns about my sisters case

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Paul Pollis' wife Charlotte Nagi-Pollis has been missing since March 1994.

By ED RUNYAN

VINDICATOR TRUMBULL STAFF

WARREN — Paul Pollis of Howland, convicted in March of carrying a concealed weapon near the township police chief's home in 2005 and later indicted with his wife in a Boardman embezzlement scheme, was set free from Trumbull County Jail after a court hearing Monday.

Pollis, 40, of 201 Southwind Drive, appeared before Judge Peter Kontos of Trumbull County Common Pleas Court, pleaded guilty to a probation violation and was given credit for time served. He was ordered released.

Chris Becker, assistant Trumbull County prosecutor, said Pollis had violated his probation by testing positive for cocaine and failing to appear to take care of warrants for his arrest in Wadsworth, Ohio.

Becker said Pollis' indictment on a charge of engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity in Mahoning County could also have been a basis for a probation violation.

Intensive probation

Judge Kontos ruled that Pollis would be required to continue with the remainder of his five years of intensive-supervision probation and complete an outpatient drug and rehabilitation program.

In Howland, Pollis showed up at Chief Paul Monroe's house May 30, 2005, gave the chief a false name and asked whether Monroe knew where Pollis' wife was. Pollis had reported Charlotte Nagi-Pollis missing in March 1994. At the time, the couple lived in Girard. Nagi-Pollis has not been found.

If you do a search on this board you will find someone who posted a few months back that used to work with or for Paul Pollis. He talked about how strange Pollis would act and the outrageous things he would say. I think Paul Pollis is responsible for his wife's disappearance as well. Incidentally, did you know that Charlotte's mom abducted Charlotte's daughter (who Paul had custody of) and as far as I know they are still missing?

The students name was Angela Maher and the drunk driver who hit her was Gloria Schulze. This may have been posted before but here is an article from a few years back and as of then anyway she was still on the run.

http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special21/articles/0531warrants31.html

Angela was my cousin. It is nice to see that people still remember. Please help keep the pressure on Gloria Shulze.
Demopublican
Baltimore, MD

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Paul Pollis' wife Charlotte Nagi-Pollis has been missing since March 1994.

By ED RUNYAN

VINDICATOR TRUMBULL STAFF

WARREN — Paul Pollis of Howland, convicted in March of carrying a concealed weapon near the township police chief's home in 2005 and later indicted with his wife in a Boardman embezzlement scheme, was set free from Trumbull County Jail after a court hearing Monday.

Pollis, 40, of 201 Southwind Drive, appeared before Judge Peter Kontos of Trumbull County Common Pleas Court, pleaded guilty to a probation violation and was given credit for time served. He was ordered released.

Chris Becker, assistant Trumbull County prosecutor, said Pollis had violated his probation by testing positive for cocaine and failing to appear to take care of warrants for his arrest in Wadsworth, Ohio.

Becker said Pollis' indictment on a charge of engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity in Mahoning County could also have been a basis for a probation violation.

Intensive probation

Judge Kontos ruled that Pollis would be required to continue with the remainder of his five years of intensive-supervision probation and complete an outpatient drug and rehabilitation program.

Wow, this dude really gets around, doesn't he? I think it's time for Ohio to pass a 'three strikes' law. :)


In Howland, Pollis showed up at Chief Paul Monroe's house May 30, 2005, gave the chief a false name and asked whether Monroe knew where Pollis' wife was. Pollis had reported Charlotte Nagi-Pollis missing in March 1994. At the time, the couple lived in Girard. Nagi-Pollis has not been found.

That has got to be one of the nuttiest things I've ever heard. He is certifiable indeed. :)

Guilty as sin. He had it written all over his face during the UM interview.

boycamel, what about Layla? Is she still missing?

YOUNGSTOWN — A Howland couple has agreed to forfeit all assets purchased with money police say was stolen from the woman’s Boardman employer.

Deborah Toda, 48, 201 Southwind Drive, appeared Wednesday before Mahoning County Common Pleas Judge Maureen Sweeney for a pre-trial hearing. According to court records, Toda is set to plea Jan. 30. She is facing felony charges of aggravated grand theft, forgery, money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity with forfeiture specifications.

Toda was arrested June 16 when police served a warrant at the Howland home she shares with Paul Pollis, 39, who also faces charges of money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity.

Toda remains in Mahoning County Jail on a $1.5 million bond, while Pollis was released from jail Oct. 10 after posting a $10,000 bond.

The charges stem from allegations the pair stole money from a branch of the North Central Pennsylvania Dialysis Clinic in Boardman over a two-year period that started in 2004. Prosecutors also were seeking forfeiture of property they say was purchased with the more than $1 million stolen from the clinic.

Toda is set to be released from federal parole this month after a 2001 conviction for a similar scheme against a Niles company that landed her in prison. She served 26 months of a 30-month term in that case.

The couple’s Howland home was searched in June after Toda’s arrest on theft charges. According to the search warrant unsealed June 20, police removed the following items from the home: 13 cars — among them, three BMWs, a Jaguar and two Ford Mustangs — a red wallet containing 22 credit cards, a black mink coat, several pieces of jewelry — some pieces worth more than $10,000 — photographs of trips to Italy, Paris and London, and numerous financial records.

In June, police were still looking for between $200,000 and $600,000 of the $1.6 million they say she stole. At the time, Boardman detective Greg Stepuk said Toda, who was the clinic’s bookkeeper, opened a bank account under the name of a legitimate vendor her employer had used, and then added herself as the sole signatory on the account. She would write deposit-only checks to the vendor, 53 in all dating from July 2004, and deposit them into the account. Then she would withdraw cash, Stepuk said.

Stepuk could not be reached for comment Wednesday on whether the missing money has been found.

In March, Pollis was placed on five years probation and prohibited from owning any firearms after pleading guilty Jan. 23 to a charge of carrying a concealed weapon. He also was ordered to spend 30 days in Trumbull County Jail before undergoing the intensive supervision probation, was ordered to forfeit any firearms in his possession, and was banned from using alcohol or drugs.

Pollis was arrested on Memorial Day 2005, after he confronted Howland police Chief Paul Monroe in the driveway of the chief’s home, gave a fake name and had a gun between his leg and the console of his Jeep.

In March 1994, Pollis reported his wife, Charlotte Nagi Pollis, missing from their Girard home. The couple’s two children were toddlers at the time. The case remains unsolved.

In 2002, Pollis was charged with improper handling of a firearm in a motor vehicle. The charge was amended to a disorderly conduct charge, on which Pollis was convicted. Pollis also was charged with domestic violence Jan. 10 and was free on a personal recognizance bond in Warren Municipal Court before pleading guilty to a reduced charge of disorderly conduct. He also was placed on probation in that court.

The Tribune Chronicle learned Wednesday Pollis also has an outstanding warrant from 2003 in Wadsworth in Medina County. The warrant was issued after he failed to appear for trial on a theft charge filed by Wadsworth police Oct. 20, 2003. Pollis is accused of driving away without paying for gas at a BP station. A Wadsworth police spokeswoman said the department’s pursuit radius only covers adjoining counties, Medina area.

The couple’s Howland home was searched in June after Toda’s arrest on theft charges. According to the search warrant unsealed June 20, police removed the following items from the home: 13 cars — among them, three BMWs, a Jaguar and two Ford Mustangs — a red wallet containing 22 credit cards, a black mink coat, several pieces of jewelry — some pieces worth more than $10,000 — photographs of trips to Italy, Paris and London, and numerous financial records.

How discouraging it was to learn that Paul Pollis is or was living in the lap of luxury when he should be behind bars.:(

as far as im concerned none you have any idea to the slightest degree of what is goin on are what actually happened here. i am someone who fourtunately does. and for a fact i know paul pollis did NOT kill his wife, has 2 kids, both parents are moral and kind people and anyone who say other words is mistaken. i will asure you this is not an opinion. the father is stern but a nice person, the other is a loving and quiet woman, the husband a misunderstood man that has been wrongfully accused of a terrible crime he did not commit, the chidren are in a terrible plight, and the wifes parents are so incredibly full of cucka that it makes me sick to believe they are living people somewhere in this world breathing our not so clean clean air.

this paragraph is dedicated to dispoving paul pollis's (and familys') involvement in the disapearance of charlotte nagi pollis. the proof i have that noone else has on this discriminating webpage is that i know the man being accused. that is right, i am paul pollis friend and i am standing up for what i know. that is not a typo. i said what i know, not what i think. what i know is that the nagis', of yemen decent, more than likely took the daughter and not the son of paul's is because in yemen, they sell the daughters to families to marry. more than likely she is being sold to a family for cash. if you do not believe me you can look it up or go over and ask them. the only reason you haven't heard of them being caught is because the federal government is lazy and has no intention of finding someone that committed a crime because it'd be easier to just let it go. and the reason the son was not abducted is because he couldnt be sold or used for anything and they would've had to pay for him to get married in yemen. and the reason the interview wasn't that good is because if you had to be put in a situation unsuspectedly like this then you would be having a difficut time as well. noone has the right to say anything rude about the parents beacues the mother is the most loving and caring person alive or ever was, and the father is a stern man but nice and well moralled person, the husband paul is a great man and has had some problems in life that he didnt cause and is being accused without propper evidence. i would like to know why people think he had something to do with it beacuse if you have never talked to him or met him then you have no right to descriminate him. i want no more comments on this subject unless you have suficial evidence to prove this wrong. and i think it is incredibly STUPID what some of these people have to say to this. you people must say what ever pops into your heads and write it down on here. that is honestly what i think. challengs yourself and try to research this matter. interview paul yourself and talk to him about this. and i read one thread saying he is finally going to jail at long last and i think thats repulsive. oh yeah im glad hes goin to jail! it will make me feel so much happier to have a man behind bars that did absolutely nothing and being critized by people who know nothing and will never do anything to the people who criticize. i will asure you this is not paul or charlotte or parents of paul or charlotte. all i will say is this is a friend of pauls closer than you know and i will not stand for this intolerable acts of uncivilized humanity twards a man inoccent of wrong doing and should be apologized to by all of thosewho say anything negative about paul.

How discouraging it was to learn that Paul Pollis is or was living in the lap of luxury when he should be behind bars.:(
i would like to know who wiseguy thinks he is? what right do you have to say paul deserve to be behind bars? you have no idea about this case do you? i honestly pitty your ignorance. not just you but all of you who think he should be behind bars and that is truely sad!

i would like to know who wiseguy thinks he is? what right do you have to say paul deserve to be behind bars? you have no idea about this case do you? i honestly pitty your ignorance. not just you but all of you who think he should be behind bars and that is truely sad!

Well speaking as moderator, joshmoe, I really think you have a lot of nerve with your diatribe. First off this is a message board and EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion!!! No one is going to be criticized for giving their thoughts and opinion on a case and if you know Paul Pollis personally and don't think he is guilty than thats your choice. The vast majority of people on the board from everything we've read in newspaper articles, seen on the UM segment and even heard from other people who also knew Paul that have posted on here think he's guilty and we are certainly entitled to think that just as you are entitled to think he's innocent. The fact that you're trying to get us to feel sorry for Paul Pollis is laughable so I wouldn't even waste your time on that one. As far as your statement "I want no more comments on this subject unless you have evidence to prove this wrong" takes a lot of nerve. You don't decide who gets to say what on this board and if you don't like what you're reading than stop reading.

I honestly do not understand how anyone can think he's NOT guilty. Of course, that is JUST my opinion. :)

Well speaking as moderator, joshmoe, I really think you have a lot of nerve with your diatribe. First off this is a message board and EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion!!! No one is going to be criticized for giving their thoughts and opinion on a case and if you know Paul Pollis personally and don't think he is guilty than thats your choice. The vast majority of people on the board from everything we've read in newspaper articles, seen on the UM segment and even heard from other people who also knew Paul that have posted on here think he's guilty and we are certainly entitled to think that just as you are entitled to think he's innocent. The fact that you're trying to get us to feel sorry for Paul Pollis is laughable so I wouldn't even waste your time on that one. As far as your statement "I want no more comments on this subject unless you have evidence to prove this wrong" takes a lot of nerve. You don't decide who gets to say what on this board and if you don't like what you're reading than stop reading.

Well said, Heather. ;)

And who knows? That might even be Paul Pollis himself posting. We'd better watch what we say or we'll end up in a shed too! :eek:

Well said, Heather. ;)

And who knows? That might even be Paul Pollis himself posting. We'd better watch what we say or we'll end up in a shed too! :eek:

Paul's wigout over the shed is what did it for me. Forget the fact that the cops found a spot of blood in Paul's trunk and the fact that the house was completely scrubbed from top to bottom just days after Charlotte's disappearance.

Hey, if he had nothing to hide he could have just gone out to the shed and opened it up. Purty damn simple to me.

oh ye ole little intelligence,no the comments made the other day came from someone just speaking their mind.Not me.To so agressively respond and in such a venomous manner just reinforces my feelings of how very few people had ever been adult enough to come and speak with me with any objectivity at all.I give no other feelings towards that person who defended me other than to say he or she just spoke their mind.And you,being the haters,terribly criticize this person for thier point of view. None of you will truly ever know who or what I am,nor do you deserve to.To respond with the comment just shows your lack of education ,compassion, and fairness to the laws and rights established to the people of this country and it makes almost feel sorry for you,all of you.Walk amile in my shoes ,for that matter 13 years now.the shame is that those who know not ,know not they know not.And will continue to bash my name,lie and do to me thats your choice but so biased. Your ignorance makes me sad and sorry for your one sided pt. of view.I'll not apologize for something i didnt do.EVER!!!From my standpoint all of you are terribly hurt and I thank you for the [however misguided ] concern,but maybe keep some of your feelings to yourselves. Paul Pollis

oh ye ole little intelligence,no the comments made the other day came from someone just speaking their mind.Not me.To so agressively respond and in such a venomous manner just reinforces my feelings of how very few people had ever been adult enough to come and speak with me with any objectivity at all.I give no other feelings towards that person who defended me other than to say he or she just spoke their mind.And you,being the haters,terribly criticize this person for thier point of view. None of you will truly ever know who or what I am,nor do you deserve to.To respond with the comment just shows your lack of education ,compassion, and fairness to the laws and rights established to the people of this country and it makes almost feel sorry for you,all of you.Walk amile in my shoes ,for that matter 13 years now.the shame is that those who know not ,know not they know not.And will continue to bash my name,lie and do to me thats your choice but so biased. Your ignorance makes me sad and sorry for your one sided pt. of view.I'll not apologize for something i didnt do.EVER!!!From my standpoint all of you are terribly hurt and I thank you for the [however misguided ] concern,but maybe keep some of your feelings to yourselves. Paul Pollis

I would like to know what exactly this means "I loved my wife and I would never do anything intentionally to harm her"

oh ye ole little intelligence,no the comments made the other day came from someone just speaking their mind.Not me.To so agressively respond and in such a venomous manner just reinforces my feelings of how very few people had ever been adult enough to come and speak with me with any objectivity at all.I give no other feelings towards that person who defended me other than to say he or she just spoke their mind.And you,being the haters,terribly criticize this person for thier point of view. None of you will truly ever know who or what I am,nor do you deserve to.To respond with the comment just shows your lack of education ,compassion, and fairness to the laws and rights established to the people of this country and it makes almost feel sorry for you,all of you.Walk amile in my shoes ,for that matter 13 years now.the shame is that those who know not ,know not they know not.And will continue to bash my name,lie and do to me thats your choice but so biased. Your ignorance makes me sad and sorry for your one sided pt. of view.I'll not apologize for something i didnt do.EVER!!!From my standpoint all of you are terribly hurt and I thank you for the [however misguided ] concern,but maybe keep some of your feelings to yourselves. Paul Pollis

I knew it was you that had to have been posting on your own behalf. Who the hell else in their right mind would defend a degenerate such as yourself? No one here feels sorry for you. So if you're looking for sympathy, please look elsewhere. Besides, don't you have some cocaine to go snort? Seriously Paul, just be content with what you really are: the "local character." :lol:

P.S. If you're so intelligent (compared to the rest of us) than you should probably learn how to use a spell check. Proper punctuational skill are mandatory for good grammar as well. But what do I know? I'm the uneducated one, remember? :rolleyes:

Wow-- Paul Pollis making an appearance on the boards. It's amazing as to what happens when I'm gone for a few days.

Paul-- why did you lie and say that you were a friend? It was more than obvious that the person speaking on your behalf was you. That whole, "I have a friend," thing becomes pretty transparent when you hit the 7th grade... just sayin'.

I also echo the questions that were mentioned in previous posts. Why did you flip out over the family wanting to look in the shed? Why did you clean your house from top to bottom in the days after Charlotte disappeared? I am basing my beliefs on the fact that you haven't really answered these questions in a satisfactory manner. You can call me uneducated, or what not, but I can't wrap my head around the fact that you wanted your wife found, but for the most part, at least in my opinion, you were uncooperative with authorities and Charlotte's family.

Oh, and about that comment regarding those of us on the board keeping our opinions to ourselves, I'd advise you take a closer look at the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Free speech rules.

Also, as to your two rants on this message board, I'll offer another word of advice: You're only proving our point, buddy.

Paul:

It's tough to make an appearance somewhere when people say negative things about you. You've waded through that.

That being said, it's always refreshing to hear from individuals connected to UM cases on the boards. Since you're here, I'll bring you up to date a bit.

Theories about your wife's disappearance have been all over this board in the past. These have ranged from a) you had something to do with it, b) Charlotte was abducted by a stranger, c) Charlotte faked her death, and d) Mrs. Nagi murdered Charlotte.

I think you might have some things to say about that and especially the fact that your daughter appears to have been abducted by your former mother-in-law. Maybe you have a few things to say about that.

I knew it was you that had to have been posting on your own behalf. Who the hell else in their right mind would defend a degenerate such as yourself? No one here feels sorry for you. So if you're looking for sympathy, please look elsewhere. Besides, don't you have some cocaine to go snort? Seriously Paul, just be content with what you really are: the "local character." :lol:

P.S. If you're so intelligent (compared to the rest of us) than you should probably learn how to use a spell check. Proper punctuational skill are mandatory for good grammar as well. But what do I know? I'm the uneducated one, remember? :rolleyes:

Someone else wrote the first response to these comments about me.That is fact like it or not.If you could detach yourself from your emotions long enough to really compare statements the difference is clear.I know who and what I am and am ok with that.I dont care what your family thinks anymore;haven't for a long time.All of your comments do not nor will not change the way I live my life.All along peoples personal feelings have interfered with any objectivity to the facts or lack of.AS for sympathy, dont need it dont want it, and dont confuse MY comments with ever needing especially yours.Have a good day .lol. XOXO

Then why are you still visiting the boards?

Not saying, just sayin'....


P.S. As for the supposed lack of objectivity you accuse those of us on the boards of having, the majority of us do not know you, nor did we know Charlotte. We are basing our opinions on what was presented before us on Unsolved Mysteries and various newspaper articles written about you and Charlotte's case. We have nothing but the facts as they were presented to us. If you disagree with the facts, you could have made an attempt to correct our assumptions. Yet you chose not to do that and instead made another attack on those of us who frequent these boards. Perhaps it is time for you to practice what you preach.

I dont care what your family thinks anymore;haven't for a long time.

Well, I would certainly hope not simply because neither myself nor anyone in my entire family even knows you. I think you may have me confused with someone who gives a damn. :rolleyes:

wow...


I see I missed out on some major stuff while on vacation!!!!!!!

boycamel comments on my brother and his aggressive nature with direct comments about hurting me to supposedly get answers on my wifes disapperance. hey Ali,go ahead, tell us where your mom is hiding with my daughter.he wont say anything it involves him publicly in the kidnapping of my daughter.by the way,i'm not going to jail for charrges brought against me in mahoning county.I had no involvement and proved it.Its sad Debbie is so inclined to other peoples money and now she has to answer for that.
sometimes poor choices happen but doesnt indicate guilt.Thats life for me right now.I'll move along and put all of her mistakes behind me in time.as for being charged with disorderly conduct,it stemmed from someone probably feeling the strain of her circumstances and not of ours.lives are always more complex than they appear,and noone not living those circumstances can fully appreciate .

boycamel comments on my brother and his aggressive nature with direct comments about hurting me to supposedly get answers on my wifes disapperance. hey Ali,go ahead, tell us where your mom is hiding with my daughter.he wont say anything it involves him publicly in the kidnapping of my daughter.by the way,i'm not going to jail for charrges brought against me in mahoning county.I had no involvement and proved it.Its sad Debbie is so inclined to other peoples money and now she has to answer for that.
sometimes poor choices happen but doesnt indicate guilt.Thats life for me right now.I'll move along and put all of her mistakes behind me in time.as for being charged with disorderly conduct,it stemmed from someone probably feeling the strain of her circumstances and not of ours.lives are always more complex than they appear,and noone not living those circumstances can fully appreciate .

How many beers did you have before you typed that up? :lol:

How many beers did you have before you typed that up? :lol:

:lol: Dislimb, I'm starting to think that as much as we challenge Mr. Pollis, he's only going to answer us with gibberish and lopsided reasoning, not to mention horrible grammar.

I'm officially bowing out of the name-calling until Mr. Pollis wants to present something new to the table. Best of luck to you, my friend. :rolleyes:

Wow I am gone for the last week in Florida and come back to this. Paul Pollis in the house. Just totally amazing. You know Paul, I dont know you so I am not going to sit here and tell you how horrible of a person you are because I dont know you. However I have long been of the opinion that you probably did something to your wife. The simple reason is you were the one that had the means and motives to do something to her. Why you would want to though I am not sure of. Yes your mother in law did kidnap your daughter and I am sure Charlotte's family does know where they are and they need to answer for that. It is my opinion you should consider yourself lucky that you somehow managed to weasle your way out of prison time again and clean up your life.

How many beers did you have before you typed that up? :lol:

Perhaps you two can get a hotel room.... so you can beat the crap outta him :smash:

Perhaps you two can get a hotel room.... so you can beat the crap outta him :smash:

Sounds like a plan. I'm a pretty big dude and am definitely not fat either. If he really weighs only 150 lbs. like UM said, than I have him in pretty bad shape. ;)

Paul, I for one believe you didn't murder your wife. I don't care what all these "uneducated" people say ... there's no way you could have killed that huge woman with your bird chest, noodle armed, crack headish frame. She would have snapped your scrawny butt in half if you had tried anything.

So just know someone out there believes your ridiculous story. Also I know you just really like a clean place, and you're "not that kind of father," and no one has any business poking around in your shed.

Paul, I for one believe you didn't murder your wife. I don't care what all these "uneducated" people say ... there's no way you could have killed that huge woman with your bird chest, noodle armed, crack headish frame. She would have snapped your scrawny butt in half if you had tried anything.

So just know someone out there believes your ridiculous story. Also I know you just really like a clean place, and you're "not that kind of father," and no one has any business poking around in your shed.

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Ill-gotten gains are going ... and gone
By CHRISTOPHER BOBBY Tribune Chronicle


NORTH LIMA — Instead of looking for bad guys that he had bonded out of jail, Bob Cregar was looking for a deal Saturday morning.

And the Warren bail bondsman — sometimes known as Big Bob — found a real gem in the form of a $78,000 diamond ring that went up for bid at perhaps the largest criminal forfeiture auction the area has ever seen.

‘‘Come on! You could cut this one up and make several rings out of it! This one can keep you out of the doghouse for a long time!’’ barked Jay Basinger, the auctioneer scanning the overflow crowd jammed into his family’s warehouse off state Route 7.

The crowd was estimated at 1,500, with 700 people registered to bid.

A line of people stretched out the door into the snow for more than 90 minutes just to register for the chance to bid on high-end items such as a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Golden Eagle with only a few miles on it; a 2004 Ford Mustang Mach 1; ATVs; boats; Rolex and Tag Heuer wristwatches; and designer clothes like a cashmere cape with fox trim; or a $2,700 reversible mink and lambskin jacket that went for $800.

Cregar, who often rides to court in a Hummer, walked off with the ring after outbidding everyone at $38,000 — the highest ticket item of the day.

‘‘I’m just going to keep it I suppose,’’ Gregar said, talking on his cell phone afterwards and conferring with Tim May, a local jeweler known as Mr. T.

‘‘Oh, it’s the real deal,’’ May said, using his jeweler’s loupe to closely examine the 5.12 karat ring with two side stones. ‘‘It looks like a cut from Europe.’’

Warren attorney Roger Bauer and his new wife, Marie, were there like many to bid and just take in the spectacle of the event.

Bauer tried on Cregar’s ring, struggling to pull it off his finger later.

‘‘I guess it’s his party,’’ Bauer said, while greeting Mahoning County Prosecutor Paul Gains, who walked through the door putting out his cigar.

‘‘It sort of sucks. I can’t bid on any of this,’’ Gains laughed.

The auction was staged by Gains last weekend and Saturday through a legitimate corrupt activity lien.

Paul Basinger said the prices of all items will be listed Monday on the company’s Web site (www.basingerauctions.com).

‘‘Some of this will go for wholesale. Some of it less than wholesale. We have major car dealers here today,’’ said assistant Mahoning County Prosecutor Ken Cardinal, who is handling the embezzlement case against Deborah Toda, 49, 201 Southwind Drive, Howland.

Cardinal said Toda is expected to plead either guilty or no contest to the original indictment Jan. 30, including three first-degree felonies of theft, money laundering and forgery.
Some of the proceeds from the auction, including furniture and other items sold last weekend that Toda bought with the ill-gotten gains, goes to staging the auction and paying Basinger Auction Service, which displayed the goods on the internet and accepted online bidding.

The remainder of the money will go to the North Central Pennsylvania Dialysis Clinic in Boardman — the victim in the case.

Toda was arrested June 16 when police served a warrant at the Howland home she shares with Paul Pollis, 40, who also faces charges of money laundering and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity.

Toda remains in Mahoning County Jail; Pollis was released after posting bond.

Police estimated the loss at $1.6 million.

But Cardinal, who says he can prove the loss to the clinic at about $1.3 million, explained that Pollis has agreed to cooperate with the prosecution.

‘‘It’s tough to really tie Pollis into the intent to embezzle. Besides, we need him to advise us on what it’s really like to drink a $125 bottle of champagne,’’ he said.

Boardman detective Greg Stepuk said Toda, who was the clinic’s bookkeeper, opened a bank account under the name of a legitimate vendor her employer had used, and then added herself as the sole signatory on the account. She would write deposit-only checks to the vendor, 53 in all dating from July 2004, and deposit them into the account. Then she would withdraw cash, Stepuk said.

‘‘I don’t know whether to laugh or cry,’’ said Mara Amedia, who works at the clinic whose husband Chet operates the business.

‘‘Our main vendor was DTI, which coincides with her initials. She was very clever,’’ Amedia said. ‘‘Her work made it through two audits.’’

Amedia said Toda also was cleared by a background check, which failed to turn up two past embezzlement schemes – one of them two years ago that included $400,000 from a Niles company and another $76,000 scheme eight years ago from a Pennsylvania company.

Toda’s Howland home, which was bought for $125,000 and included more than $86,000 in landscaping improvements complete with swimming pool, was searched in June after her arrest.

But Cardinal, who says he can prove the loss to the clinic at about $1.3 million, explained that Pollis has agreed to cooperate with the prosecution.

‘‘It’s tough to really tie Pollis into the intent to embezzle. Besides, we need him to advise us on what it’s really like to drink a $125 bottle of champagne,’’ he said.

Boardman detective Greg Stepuk said Toda, who was the clinic’s bookkeeper, opened a bank account under the name of a legitimate vendor her employer had used, and then added herself as the sole signatory on the account. She would write deposit-only checks to the vendor, 53 in all dating from July 2004, and deposit them into the account. Then she would withdraw cash, Stepuk said.

See, what a bad rap for Paul Pollis. He's cooperative and thirsty, no doubt eager to expand his local character warmth.

This reminds me of the Adtec scam from the other UM episode. You wonder how many dozens/hundreds/thousands of other bogus accounts are out there, funneling money into trusted employees of small businesses.

This one rolled around on Ci yesterday and a few things I hadn't noticed before; Charlotte's mother is also named Charlotte.... never heard of naming your daughter the same as her mother before, just thought it was weird. Also notice how Charlotte's mother NEVER blinked once! It was like her eyes were being held open.

And yeh Paul, if you ever read this, I'd still like to know what "I love my wife and would never hurt my wife intentionally" or however you said that, means? Also what is with the long pause and throat clear saying "I had nothing to do with my wife's disappearance, nor did my family.... (long pause)(throat clear) that I know of".

My eyes nearly popped out of my head when, after reading Layla's missing profile, it mentioned that she and her grandmother might be hiding out in Dearborn, Michigan. :eek: I live in Dearborn.

If I ever see these people, I might be a little hesitant to call the police. Layla's grandmother might have done her the biggest favor by hiding her from Paul. You never know what our favorite "character" Paul might do if Layla ever came home after curfew or got a bad report card. She might just "mysteriously" vanish or end up in the shed like her mommy.

In all seriousness, Paul pretty much showed us how guilty he was with 3 things...

1.) The shed - An innocent Paul would have simply given Charlotte's family members the key to the shed right away so they would get off his back. But he chose not to do that. He refused to let them look and raised a fuss when they asked.

2.) 3 months in hiding - Paul never showed up to take the polygraph test. How conveniant. Instead he had to go away for 3 months to get himself together because he was damaged emotionally. And all the stares from people made him uncomfortable. (Can you hear those violins in the background?) O.K., first of all, if he really NEEDED to get away because of that, why not just take the polygraph before going on your little vacation? An innocent person has nothing to hide, right?

But that's all moot anyway. An innocent Paul wouldn't have taken those 3 months to get himself together emotionally. Instead, an innocent Paul would have been doing everything in his power to find his missing wife. And he would have been less selfish and put the needs of his own children before his by doing everything he can do find his children's mother.

3.) Cleaning the house - Try to picture yourselves in this situation. Your significant other has mysteriously vanished. It's been 24 hours. What do you do? That's easy. You give a full report to the police. You put up missing flyers all over the neighborhood and around the city. You form search parties to find him/her. Your life is pretty much on hold for the moment because you're consumed with worry and you have to find them. Paul didn't do that. Instead he called mommy and daddy over to help him clean the house from top to bottom. Again, if he is innocent, what is there to be gained by cleaning the house? Forget cleaning the stupid house. Get off your butt, get in your car and try to find your wife. This is not rocket science. And why do you need your parents to help you scrub the house from top to bottom anyway if you have nothing to hide?

I don't even need to mention that infamous line from his letter... "I would never intentionally hurt my wife."

It's the biggest understatement in the world that Paul gave one of the worst interviews in Unsolved Mysteries history. I just think a truly innocent Paul would have looked a little bit more worried out of concern over what might or might not have happened to his wife. The woman he shared his life with.

It's just hard to muster any sympathy for Paul whatsoever. The guy obviously has more emotional problems and issues than your normal every day person. If by some slim chance he is actually innocent...which I don't think he is... than he's the guiltiest looking innocent man that ever lived.

Do you guys actually believe that the poster who said he was Paul Pollis was indeed Paul Pollis? It seems to me the guy's been enough trouble with the law over the years, and probably had enough dealings with lawyers, to know better than to come on here and talk to a bunch of strangers about alleged crimes that he may or may not have committed.

Mind you, I think he probably did it, but I don't know that I trust the family of the victim all that much in this particular case. They seemed like ab unch of loonies themselves. At any rate, I highly doubt the claims of anyone who comes on to this board claiming to be a person directly involved in any case --- it's too easy on the internet to screw around with people for the heck of it.

Do you guys actually believe that the poster who said he was Paul Pollis was indeed Paul Pollis? It seems to me the guy's been enough trouble with the law over the years, and probably had enough dealings with lawyers, to know better than to come on here and talk to a bunch of strangers about alleged crimes that he may or may not have committed.

Mind you, I think he probably did it, but I don't know that I trust the family of the victim all that much in this particular case. They seemed like ab unch of loonies themselves. At any rate, I highly doubt the claims of anyone who comes on to this board claiming to be a person directly involved in any case --- it's too easy on the internet to screw around with people for the heck of it.

That was my instinct also, that board members were far too confident it actually was Paul Pollis. He certainly seems eccentric enough to seek attention and post on a message board, but I was never sure one way or another. I don't remember the posts or if he posted anything that only Paul Pollis would know. Or maybe the moderators had confirmation regarding identity.

That was my instinct also, that board members were far too confident it actually was Paul Pollis. He certainly seems eccentric enough to seek attention and post on a message board, but I was never sure one way or another. I don't remember the posts or if he posted anything that only Paul Pollis would know. Or maybe the moderators had confirmation regarding identity.

I tend to lean towards it being him because in my mind "who would be defending Paul Pollis but Paul Pollis." :lol: You know he doesn't actually endear people to him with that interview on UM. I couldn't confirm if it was him but he was posting from Warren, Ohio if that helps.

I tend to lean towards it being him because in my mind "who would be defending Paul Pollis but Paul Pollis." :lol: You know he doesn't actually endear people to him with that interview on UM. I couldn't confirm if it was him but he was posting from Warren, Ohio if that helps.

OK, I guess you convinced me. But hasn't anyone else defended him in this 7-page thread? No padlocked shed lovers or lousy mustache lovers?

BTW, I watched dynoguy's clip today and the huge hamburger in the hands of a 2-year-old busted me up.

Well I always belived that it [I]could[I] have been Paul Pollis. That's why I didn't respond to that poster, I didn't know who I was dealing with. Interestingly, Paul's friend or relative starts to post first, then Paul takes over, thus there's two posters using the same screenname. I'm not sure that's allowed.

Yeah, you're right CrystalDawn, tough to believe anybody watching this segment siding with Paul Pollis. He kind of stumbles into Wayne Hecker territory by appearing cocky instead of having concern for his wife. He doesn't exactly change the minds of people that think he's guilty.

I missed the huge hamburger in the two year old's hands the first couple times I watched this segment, I'll have to rewatch it and look for that part.

I'm not sure if it was Paul Pollis on the boards, but as one of the people who instigated the confrontation with him, I'm more than willing to bet that if it wasn't Paul, it was a close friend or relative.

What initially made me think it was Paul was that the posts "he" authored were so incoherant and rambling... and I also echo CD's sentiments that no one but Paul Pollis would defend Paul Pollis... :)

I missed the huge hamburger in the two year old's hands the first couple times I watched this segment, I'll have to rewatch it and look for that part.

Well I guess I don't have to do that now, looking at Awsi's new avatar. That is hysterical, I can't believe I missed that before.

Haha, the huge hamburger. Thanks for finding that Awsi, I think most if not all the people on here including myself overlooked that when watching the segment. I do think it was Paul Pollis that posted on here. Either it was Paul Pollis or it was one of Charlotte's relatives on here trying to even further discredit Paul. Not that there is much to discredit but still, they seemed obsessed with the guy. I agree with an earlier poster that while I am sorry for Charlotte's family for what happened to her, they kind of seem like a bunch of wacko's themselves so I guess they dont get a ton of credibility, especially when a grandmother kidnapps one of her grand kids. Is that a defense of Paul? Boy I hope not.

Well normally I would say the grandmother wouldn't have any grounds to kidnap the granddaughter. But given that Paul Pollis has become a "local character" in that certain town in Ohio makes me believe that the grandmother didn't commit the most heinous crime in the history of UM. The girl is in better hands with the grandmother than with Paul. I know it's been talked about before, but I'm still baffled why she didn't take the boy as well. Perhaps she wasn't able to.

this is the biggest joke of a case in Unsolved Mysteries' history. That guy is so guilty, it's silly. Unreal. How this made on the show is amazing.

-yes the hamburger I noticed that too bahahahahahhahahha, hilarious. what were the producers thinking giving that little girl such a big burger!

-another funny part was when Robert Stack said.....Paul weighed 150...his wife weighed.....THREE HUNDRED POUNDS. hahahaha. I'm so mean, I dunno why I thought that was funny.

-It was obvious within one second that Pollis guy is 100% guilty of killing his wife. Memo to Paul the Murderer, you might wanna try showing a little fake remorse if you're gonna go on national television and talk about how you didn't kill your wife. you might not wanna skip out on that polygraph you agreed to take. It's also wise to not completely disappear when you're prime suspect #1 in your wife's disappearance. Finally if one of your in-laws wants to look inside your shed, it'd be best for you to not go crazy and refuse to hand over the keys. After all there's nothing but gardening tools in there right?

-HOW CREEPY WAS PAUL'S MOM!!!!???? Good god, that woman gave me chills. Her voice and everything. The way his parents aided in this massacre is heinous. I can just see his mother with an axe speaking in that squeaky, pretend-to-be-nice voice. It's always much more creepy when somebody evil is so calm and quiet.


I think the real Unsolved Mystery here is why Charlotte's brother hasn't put a couple of bullets through Paul's head yet. Or how her family has allowed him to continue breathing. I don't understand why he ever was even alive at the time UM did their show. Then again, remember the old saying..... revenge is a dish best served cold

the kid looks like he's having a blast with that huge hamburger, which makes it all the funnier. It's as almost as if he's saying "What do I do with this thing?"

Of course the kid even having the hamburger in the first place only exists in Paul's version of events. At that time, he was getting rid of the evidence.

Another unrealistic thing about that segment was the kids being so mild mannered. 5 hours running errands, which included "looking at houses", Paul would have been treated to a chorus of "when are we going home's":lol:

Another unrealistic thing about that segment was the kids being so mild mannered. 5 hours running errands, which included "looking at houses", Paul would have been treated to a chorus of "when are we going home's":lol:

That struck me too. Paul Pollis' story just didn't have the ring of truth to it; I can't imagine hauling two little kids around for five hours, the last two to look at houses. The kids would have gone bananas, and surely would have been remembered for restless behavior by other who saw Paul.

-another funny part was when Robert Stack said.....Paul weighed 150...his wife weighed.....THREE HUNDRED POUNDS. hahahaha. I'm so mean, I dunno why I thought that was funny.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - that was the motive! :lol:

hey Ali,go ahead, tell us where your mom is hiding with my daughter.he wont say anything it involves him publicly in the kidnapping of my daughter.

That section struck me as interesting on two accounts. First of all, if Paul doesn't know Charlotte (his wife) is dead, you would think he might have speculated that the mom took his daughter and they have reunited with Charlotte. There's no hint of that in any of his five posts, although he has no problem with wild speculation regarding the Yemen aspect and selling daughters to marry.

I do believe it was Paul Pollis who posted, BTW, after reading them again.

Also, I wonder if law enforcement has been lax in pursuing Charlotte and the missing daughter, because of the connections to a father who may have killed the mother of that child? You would think grandmother Charlotte would have kept in touch with her husband and children, even if very secretly, wherever she went. It should be a simple matter for authorities to tap phones and search garbage for records, similar to other UM cases, if they were really concerned about finding grandmother Charlotte and Layla.

I do have one major difference with posters in this thread and in YouTube comments on this case. I thought Paul's mother was superb, by far the most impressive person interviewed from any of the families. Her tone and emphasis and eye contact and choice of words would be just what I would have expected from someone in that position. I can see why Paul described her so positively in this thread, more than once.

The grandmother Charlotte came across as a true wacko, grasping for every wild connection. She strikes me as an O.J. caliber jurist, willing to believe anything.

Also, in looking at the shed incident again it comes across as much less suspicious if the depiction of the foot prints are accurate. Of course, you never know how reliable the UM re-enactments are. But if a body were moved to and/or from that shed by two people, you wouldn't have two sets of prints alongside one another, seemingly nonchalant. They would likely pick up the body by the arms and legs, in which case you would have two sets of foot prints either along the same exact path, one following behind the other on the same line. One pair of prints would probably be facing backwards while the guy backtracked. Or you could have a sideways shuffle step type of thing if they walked the body so that it was lengthwise moving to or from the shed.

Of course, the segment made mention of other prints moving away from the shed but they weren't shown.

I'm not as convinced the shed was involved, that's all I'm saying. Plus, the clean up aspect is probably overblown. Now that so many UM segments and other true crime stories are being shown on YouTube and on various programs, it's getting silly how often that claim is made. It probably means a home that is simply more clean than the authorities are accustomed to, and all of a sudden it becomes described as spotless and all type of spooky significance attached.

I wonder about the little spot of blood in the trunk. The segment said it was too insignificant to be identified, but that was by mid-'90s standards. Plenty has changed in DNA analysis and techniques. I wonder if that sample was saved?

The hamburger... can't stop laughing at the hamburger.... :rofl:

The hamburger... can't stop laughing at the hamburger.... :rofl:

It's making me hungry, personally. :)

Well normally I would say the grandmother wouldn't have any grounds to kidnap the granddaughter. But given that Paul Pollis has become a "local character" in that certain town in Ohio makes me believe that the grandmother didn't commit the most heinous crime in the history of UM. The girl is in better hands with the grandmother than with Paul. I know it's been talked about before, but I'm still baffled why she didn't take the boy as well. Perhaps she wasn't able to.



she didnt take the boy because they use the women as chips. they promise a family the daughter in mariage for money(in yemen where the grandfather is native) and the son would just be and "expence"

That section struck me as interesting on two accounts. First of all, if Paul doesn't know Charlotte (his wife) is dead, you would think he might have speculated that the mom took his daughter and they have reunited with Charlotte. There's no hint of that in any of his five posts, although he has no problem with wild speculation regarding the Yemen aspect and selling daughters to marry.

I do believe it was Paul Pollis who posted, BTW, after reading them again.

Also, I wonder if law enforcement has been lax in pursuing Charlotte and the missing daughter, because of the connections to a father who may have killed the mother of that child? You would think grandmother Charlotte would have kept in touch with her husband and children, even if very secretly, wherever she went. It should be a simple matter for authorities to tap phones and search garbage for records, similar to other UM cases, if they were really concerned about finding grandmother Charlotte and Layla.

I do have one major difference with posters in this thread and in YouTube comments on this case. I thought Paul's mother was superb, by far the most impressive person interviewed from any of the families. Her tone and emphasis and eye contact and choice of words would be just what I would have expected from someone in that position. I can see why Paul described her so positively in this thread, more than once.

The grandmother Charlotte came across as a true wacko, grasping for every wild connection. She strikes me as an O.J. caliber jurist, willing to believe anything.

Also, in looking at the shed incident again it comes across as much less suspicious if the depiction of the foot prints are accurate. Of course, you never know how reliable the UM re-enactments are. But if a body were moved to and/or from that shed by two people, you wouldn't have two sets of prints alongside one another, seemingly nonchalant. They would likely pick up the body by the arms and legs, in which case you would have two sets of foot prints either along the same exact path, one following behind the other on the same line. One pair of prints would probably be facing backwards while the guy backtracked. Or you could have a sideways shuffle step type of thing if they walked the body so that it was lengthwise moving to or from the shed.

Of course, the segment made mention of other prints moving away from the shed but they weren't shown.

I'm not as convinced the shed was involved, that's all I'm saying. Plus, the clean up aspect is probably overblown. Now that so many UM segments and other true crime stories are being shown on YouTube and on various programs, it's getting silly how often that claim is made. It probably means a home that is simply more clean than the authorities are accustomed to, and all of a sudden it becomes described as spotless and all type of spooky significance attached.

I wonder about the little spot of blood in the trunk. The segment said it was too insignificant to be identified, but that was by mid-'90s standards. Plenty has changed in DNA analysis and techniques. I wonder if that sample was saved?



although this person and i differ in opinions to what happened to charlotte and who committed that act of her disapearance, they looked at a broader picture and speculated things from a larger view point and saw both sides. im not sure who did what but i am leaning toward the idea that paul didnt kill her, or had anything to do with it. im not inside his head but i know how he thinks and i've known him for a long time, hes not a violent person and he could never kill someone. now the 2 charges against him in domestic violence, what actually happened with that is that one time debbie assulted paul in an argument and paul tried to restrain and stop her from causeing harm and she broke her fingers fighting back and had inger marks on her because he tried to hold her down to stop trying to hurt him. just like anyone else would if a person assulted you. also durring that time she hit him with a chair, and for her size and weight she did manage it, she also hit him with a walking stick paul had in his room that he made himself, also very heavy. so tell me what you would do if you had an argument with your wife and she hit you with a chair, what would you do?

and i know a good majority of you are saying GO DEBBIE but thats your problem. your all stuck on the fact that hes guilty and you cant and/or wont even give the possibilty that hes innocent. which disgusts me because you are so narrow minded in thinking paul did it. now you try to find ways to discredit what im saying but also look at your facts. oh no the newspaper wouldnt lie to you! my ass it wouldn't. it said multiple times his name was pual g pollis. and it also said the money debbie stole ranged from 1.3-2 million dollars. also there were only 2 BMW's and did you also know that employees at the pizza shop would steal money from the droor or clock in earlier than they did and clock out for longer than they were there. at one point and employee stole pauls gun and threatened him with it because we found out he was a drug dealer at the high school and we threatened to call the police and have him arrested. did you also know that a laptop was stolen when debbie was arrested and more than 300 dollars was missing.

i would honestly like to know why you are so bent on his being guilty to anything he is accused of. he was let go innocent of the money embezelment charges. now i cant denie he did have a crack addiction but he was emotionaly weak because of stress when debbie took the money the firts time while they were together and he couldnt hadle it on his own. now thats a choice he made and a poor choice at that but... he's sorry he did it and although he cant undo what he did he does wish he could take that back. people make mistakes and sometimes bigger ones than others and sometimes people experience accidents in their life that they get the blame for even if they didnt do it. now im pretty sure he didnt kill charlotte but that is an example and he must live with the fact that hes blamed for it and he cant change your minds and he doesnt want to either but he just wishes people wouldnt assuse him of something he was proven not guilty to. if you didnt do something but everyone thinks you did but you were proven not guilty... wouldnt you want people to think you werent guilty. he was proven NG in court and yet people still treat him like he is and thats horrible. even if you think he is guilty treat others with respect. hes made many mistakes and hes been put in a difficult possition most of his life but one thing is for sure, he's a kind person at heart and the one thing he needs is someone to give him a second chance and nobody is willing to do that. i dont care now does paul what you think of because that was decided in court and only he truly knows what he did or didnt do with her. if you really want to find out what happened all those years ago then you need to talk to the police and get their asses movin on the look for layla and the nagi family and put the together and put paul and a reporter and if necisary and few gaurds, for if some reason unhappy feelings break out, but that is the only way to know what happened. layla is probably brainwashed that her father killed her mother and the pollis family is horrible and the nagi family is good. but unless you find them and you get paul and both familys in a room you'll never know what happened.....

Oh great, Paul Pollis is back :rolleyes:

im not sure who did what but i am leaning toward the idea that paul didnt kill her, or had anything to do with it. im not inside his head but i know how he thinks and i've known him for a long time, hes not a violent person and he could never kill someone.

Wait.. before this person said they weren't Paul Pollis. Then they identified themselves AS Paul Pollis. Now we're back to the friend theory. Which one are you, joshmoe?


now the 2 charges against him in domestic violence, what actually happened with that is that one time debbie assulted paul in an argument and paul tried to restrain and stop her from causeing harm and she broke her fingers fighting back and had inger marks on her because he tried to hold her down to stop trying to hurt him. just like anyone else would if a person assulted you. also durring that time she hit him with a chair, and for her size and weight she did manage it, she also hit him with a walking stick paul had in his room that he made himself, also very heavy. so tell me what you would do if you had an argument with your wife and she hit you with a chair, what would you do?

Uhh... file for divorce?



and i know a good majority of you are saying GO DEBBIE but thats your problem. your all stuck on the fact that hes guilty and you cant and/or wont even give the possibilty that hes innocent. which disgusts me because you are so narrow minded in thinking paul did it. now you try to find ways to discredit what im saying but also look at your facts. oh no the newspaper wouldnt lie to you! my ass it wouldn't.

Uhh... a lot of us on the boards think he's guilty because he's the only likely suspect. He had the means and opportunity to pull off such a crime. He also acted incredibly suspicious during the time Charlotte disappeared. His whole "suicide note" thing also raises a lot of questions in my mind. Why would anyone say some of the things Paul said in his note unless he was hiding something else? Being in the legal profession (almost), I understand that Paul does not have to prove his innocence to us. But he should also understand why we're questioning it. (And I don't think ANY of us have said "GO DEBBIE." Just sayin'.)

it said multiple times his name was pual g pollis. and it also said the money debbie stole ranged from 1.3-2 million dollars. also there were only 2 BMW's and did you also know that employees at the pizza shop would steal money from the droor or clock in earlier than they did and clock out for longer than they were there.

Ohh... so because the newspapers misspelled his name, because there were only TWO BMW's, and because OTHER people stole money too... that makes what Paul and Debbie did okay. Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me. :rolleyes:


people make mistakes and sometimes bigger ones than others and sometimes people experience accidents in their life that they get the blame for even if they didnt do it.

Interesting statement.

now im pretty sure he didnt kill charlotte but that is an example and he must live with the fact that hes blamed for it and he cant change your minds and he doesnt want to either but he just wishes people wouldnt assuse him of something he was proven not guilty to.

In my understanding, Paul Pollis has not been cleared in his wife's disappearance. My understanding is just that there isn't enough evidence to prosecute him. Those are two VERY different things.


i dont care now does paul what you think of because that was decided in court and only he truly knows what he did or didnt do with her.

Again, another very interesting statement. Who's talking here? Is it Paul or is it his buddy? In any case, I am trying to understand where you are coming from. While I understand that Paul may have been cleared of his embezzlement charges, he has still not been cleared of wrongdoing in his wife's disappearance. The information relating to his latest arrest was put up on the boards, I believe, just as a "FYI," so to speak. I, for one, found it interesting to see that Mr. Pollis obviously has trouble staying OUT of trouble. I'm not saying that I don't think he deserves any sympathy, but I do think that he looks AWFULLY suspicious, especially when you consider how he was acting before and after his wife's disappearance.

Where's Dislimb? I'm feeling the need for some backup on this one...

now i cant denie he did have a crack addiction...

I think that statement speaks for itself.

Hey Paul, try to lay off the glass pipe and sober up a little bit. Just look at what you are typing for once and try to realize just how ridiculous you sound to everyone. Proper spelling and punctuational skills are also a good thing to learn when trying to make a point. Just thought I'd inform you of that, big guy.

Well joshmoe we're not buying what you're saying because you're trying to tell us that Paul Pollis is this upstanding guy who just happens to not only be a suspect in the disappearance of his wife but also suspected in lots of other illegal activities throughout the years. Its ridiculous for you to try and persuade us that he is a poor misunderstood guy who just seems to be in trouble with the law wherever he goes. There has to be some validity to all these things that have came to light. As far as Charlotte Pollis, no one necessarily started off watching the UM segment thinking he was guilty but after watching the segment and mainly HEARING PAUL'S COMMENTS the majority came to that opinion. Once again we're entitled to our opinion and I assume you've seen the UM segment and know why we think that. Furthermore I have no idea if this is Paul again or a "friend" but if you'll read earlier in this thread some posters have asked Paul specific questions about the segment and his wife's disappearance giving him a chance to answer them and maybe even defend himself but he chose not to so at least we gave him a chance to speak on his behalf.

Furthermore I have no idea if this is Paul again or a "friend" but if you'll read earlier in this thread some posters have asked Paul specific questions about the segment and his wife's disappearance giving him a chance to answer them and maybe even defend himself but he chose not to so at least we gave him a chance to speak on his behalf.

Another excellent point. As soon as Paul admitted that he was posting, anything really relevant to the case that was asked about seemed to fall on deaf ears. How convenient is that?

now in all irrellevance to my opinion, dislimb: i think you are and ignortant bastard and you should watch you mouth. your opinion i clearly supposed to be stated on here but having an opinion and being prejudice are completely different things. now whether i spell a word wrong or i mistype a sentence is irrellevant. does it honestly matter how well someone can type on the computer..... NO! does it matter at all if you think this is paul or not. explain this smart people. he's in jail correct? how could he still be posting on here, i dont believe they have computers available to inmates. and oh yes he is injail, but whats new right? that just proves your point that paul's a terrible person to society. now im sure none of you agree to this idea but how about you get to know paul edward pollis and sit down and have a talk with him yourself. he's in lorrain correctional facility, go have a visit with him and talk it out. you only base your information givin to you by televison or newspapers or other, but go and talk to him and get to know what kind of guy he is. now most guys are lazy in nature unless worked at enough to mativate them to get something done, but hes a hard working man and although he did make a poor choice staying with that money stealing *B* he cant defend himself against what you think he did or didnt do with charlotte. shes missing, alive or dead, im sure very few people know but her. but to be accused of killing his wife, married to a theif, stay married to a thief, and deal with the loss of his oldest child, AND have a previous weed addiction, i think that would be a lot of stress on any one person. and so he resorted to crack which is also another poor choice but one he learned from. now using cheap shots saying put down the crack pipe for a minute, and other related jokes and slang, is offensive. tell me what he ever did to any of you and that will be reason for the agression. did you know hes been drug free for a year and a half now? id almost bet you didnt otherwise you wouldnt be making those remarks. now i have a short temper myself but not a bad temper, and when people start making opinions based on very little knowledge on that one subject upsets me very quickly. now i can retain my irritation quite well but when you start making offensive remarks to him calling him an abusive druggie and a threat to socciety really upsets me. he owned and worked in that pizza shop for close to a year, and he never hurt anyone there, he never upset the customers unless they were unreasonably complaining or *B*-ing, and to anyone who didnt know who he was usually thought he was a good business man and a relatively good person. and even when customers knew about his past they still came and ordered from them because we were kind to our customers and were profesional. im getting tired of typing and reading on these message boards but the last i will do is keep up on what you have to say. you are biased that he killed her, and im biased he didnt, but to be biased is to have an opinion supporting one side and prejudice is saying that your opinion on something is hat happened and thats how it should be and thats how it is. prejudice is wrong, opinions are fine....

just to make it clear there cannot be any confusion to who this is.... as i stated before just above..... paul's in jail. also i said that paul only posted on here once. this is a friend of pauls. he does not know im still trying to defend him but its sad to know im the only one who doesnt think he did it. you all think he did, but get to know what kind of person he is, how he reacts with people and all the other things you should know before judging some1. its actualy pretty sad because some of you think ist funny to poke and tease paul and its even worse you have to take what i say and twist it around so it sounds different than intended:confused:

Oh, Joshmoe....

I think it's interesting that you launch a personal attack on Dislimb, but ignore many of the points that have been brought up by some of the other posters on this board (myself included.)

...and depending on the jail, inmates CAN have access to the internet. In my public defending days, I used to get e-mails from some of my clients. So again, I ask... friend or Paul Pollis? It still looks pretty suspicious. Just sayin'.

just to make it clear there cannot be any confusion to who this is.... as i stated before just above..... paul's in jail. also i said that paul only posted on here once. this is a friend of pauls. he does not know im still trying to defend him but its sad to know im the only one who doesnt think he did it. you all think he did, but get to know what kind of person he is, how he reacts with people and all the other things you should know before judging some1. its actualy pretty sad because some of you think ist funny to poke and tease paul and its even worse you have to take what i say and twist it around so it sounds different than intended:confused:

So, Paul/Paul's friend, whoever this is....
One thing I've never heard anything about from the articles or from Unsolved Mysteries is whether Paul ever went looking for his wife. Did you help Paul look for Charlotte? How long and where did you search? Do you/does he have any theories as to where she is? You are really close to Paul so, you must have been involved in the search for Charlotte, right?

If I were you, or Paul, I'd be really curious to know what happened to Charlotte. I mean, people don't just vanish off the face of the earth. Why would she leave her husband and two children behind? If somebody took her, who? Did Paul ever hire an a private investigator?

now in all irrellevance to my opinion, dislimb: i think you are and ignortant bastard and you should watch you mouth.

Ignortant? :lol:

And what do you propose to do if I don't watch my mouth, tough guy?

now in all irrellevance to my opinion, dislimb: i think you are and ignortant bastard and you should watch you mouth.... are fine....

God, this forum is going downhill fast.

Okay this thread is just sad. It's obviously either Paul himself trying to "defend" himself or it's someone in his family trying to convince themselves that he did not do this and that he turned to crack because of the stress that was in his life....give me a break. I would never get that defensive when defending a person who quite honestly is looking very guilty. Personally I think it's either Paul or his mother. I don't know...the whole situation at the end of the day is just plain sad.

Okay this thread is just sad... Personally I think it's either Paul or his mother...



Okay, now I agree with you that the participation in this post from either Paul himself or one of his more educated family members is a pretty pathetic attempt to deflect blame from the man. Not only that but it reads like an English Major's nightmare or like it was written by some angry foreign refugee with barely a grasp on the language. I also 100% agree with you that the man is very definitely responsible for Charlotte's disappearance.

HOWEVER I have to disagree strongly with the assertion that his mother is guilty. She seems like the dictionary definition of "matronly". During her UM interview she spoke with that lilting grandma tone and seemed like she'd be comfortable using expressions like, "Oh my Heavens" or "Oh dearie dear". I wanted her so badly to say that conspiracies involving her were "Phoney baloney. Pure poppycock and absolute folderol!". I can't imagine that sweet looking old lady, who spoke like a 180 year old Mia Farrow, could be in on the covering up of the murder of her son's wife.

I have to ask, ddelta , if you think she was in on it, how do you propose it went down?

Okay, now I agree with you that the participation in this post from either Paul himself or one of his more educated family members is a pretty pathetic attempt to deflect blame from the man. Not only that but it reads like an English Major's nightmare or like it was written by some angry foreign refugee with barely a grasp on the language. I also 100% agree with you that the man is very definitely responsible for Charlotte's disappearance.

HOWEVER I have to disagree strongly with the assertion that his mother is guilty. She seems like the dictionary definition of "matronly". During her UM interview she spoke with that lilting grandma tone and seemed like she'd be comfortable using expressions like, "Oh my Heavens" or "Oh dearie dear". I wanted her so badly to say that conspiracies involving her were "Phoney baloney. Pure poppycock and absolute folderol!". I can't imagine that sweet looking old lady, who spoke like a 180 year old Mia Farrow, could be in on the covering up of the murder of her son's wife.

I have to ask, ddelta , if you think she was in on it, how do you propose it went down?


I think you misunderstood this person. I believe they was referring to who this person posting is. Either it is Paul himself or they think it's his mom posting.

I think you misunderstood this person. I believe they was referring to who this person posting is. Either it is Paul himself or they think it's his mom posting.



D'Oh!!! My bad!

I was really trying to imagine little ass Paul Pollis and even littler ass Gramma Pollis hefting the dead weight of larger than little ass Charlotte Pollis from the ground to the car, the car to the shed, the shed to wherever they cut up and disposed of her. That's why I wanted to hear ddelta's theory on the way it went. Just the sheer mechanics of the thing...

I don't know that I buy the mom being the mad typist either. "Joeschmoe" doesn't really ring true for her. I imagine she'd have a screen name more like "milkncookies11" or "askmeaboutmygrandchildren!" or "Iraisedawifekiller". Also, and in conjunction with her seeming like such a sweethearted old bitty, I imagine she's be the type of person, so completely computer illiterate, she'd spend her first couple of hours talking into the mouse or something. She doesn't seem to me to be the type to put the "mother" in "motherboard", ya feel me? I think Mama Pollis' depth of computer understanding starts and stops at the ATM.

LMAO, Corky!

I personally get chills when Paul's mom says, "Oh, that's positively ludicris!" She's not the killer, but there's something about her that's just not right.

I agree wholeheartedly with Nohwhere Girl on this comment. I'm not saying I think Paul's mother had anything to do with the crime, but that particular statement also did not sit well with me. Personally, I felt like it was a bit of over-acting, if you ask me.

just to make it clear there cannot be any confusion to who this is.... as i stated before just above..... paul's in jail. also i said that paul only posted on here once. this is a friend of pauls.

There is evidence of two different people posting under the name joshmoe, but if I had to wager I'd say each one was responsible for several posts apiece. Check the 3rd, 4th and 5th posts of joshmoe, beginning with the one he includes his name at the end. They have a distinct difference from the other posts, specifically the lack of a space after a period or comma.

It's always like this.starting the next thought without a space.he will apply a period or comma,then continue minus the proper space.in the other posts from joshmoe the style is more standard and correct, finding the elusive space bar.

Leave it to Awsi to crack the mystery. :)

Looking at the timestamps of joshmoe's posts, I don't think it's Paul himself. Paul is currently behind bars if memory serves, and most of joshmoe's posts are from 11 pm to 4 am, I believe that's past inmate's bedtime curfew. Probably a friend or relative of Paul.

Or an internet weirdo who likes to screw with people and who has too much time on his hands. That's my bet.

Or an internet weirdo who likes to screw with people and who has too much time on his hands. That's my bet.

I thought of this as a possibility as well.

LMAO, Corky! I personally get chills when Paul's mom says, "Oh, that's positively ludicris!"

Hahahaha!!! Yes!! I couldn't quite remember it exactly but THAT’S the thing she says that I always hear in my head in that lilting grandmotherly tone of hers.



I agree wholeheartedly with Nohwhere Girl on this comment. I'm not saying I think Paul's mother had anything to do with the crime, but that particular statement also did not sit well with me. Personally, I felt like it was a bit of over-acting, if you ask me.

I totally agree that she’s laying it on thick and that it is, in all sincerity, a bit creepy. It has this kind of “Annie Wilkes acting all frightened by the curtains being on fire after she set the fire herself” vibe. All, "Oh Heavens to Betsy!! Oh my goodness!! Oh Heavens to Betsy!!". This kind of “Talks all homemakerly and nice, uses kooky little swear words and keeps a tidy home with cute little miniatures, but you better believe she'd sledgehammer the living p!ss out of your ankles if she caught you sneaking out of your room, and there’s no effin way she can be as sweet and innocent as she’s pretending to be” feel. You know what I’m getting at?

I’d bet dollars to donuts if we saw the entire interview with her somewhere in there she says, “Paul couldn’t have killed Charlotte, it would have made an oogy mess, and besides...he couldn’t a got her outta the CACA DOO DEE car!!”

* I just found out that swear words, such as **** and ****, and I bet even ********** and mother****er get turn into asterisks. That's cool, I can get with wanting to have a website that doesn't offend people's sense of decorum with cuss words. But a couple of thoughts just occurred to me:


1. It's pretty ironic considering the paragraph above was lampooning the Annie Wilke's character from Misery who had an odd fascination with curse words.


2. A site that contains discussions involving graphic descriptions of several of the worst kinds of criminal offenses known to humans feels that, in order to not offend anyone's sensibilities, some words that are considered "obscene" in the English language should be blocked out and replaced by asterisks. Again, I'm not complaing at all and I'm really not the kind of ****head who tries to **** with people just by trying to be a pain in the **** and complain about **** like this, but this too smacks of irony.


3. The word ****. **** is asterisked? When above I wrote "Caca Doo Dee", I had originally written "**** a doo dee" and saw that it was blocked out and would really make no sense if I left it that way. So I changed it to the aforementioned "Caca Doo Dee", even though that's not how she says it. She definitely says, "**** A DOO DEE" with pauses at each sonuvabitchin syllable. Now that I think about it though, Annie was probably saying "Caca Doody" (her way of saying "****"), and that's a pretty weird descriptive expletive for a car. ANYWAYS...why is **** asterisked? I understand that **** is used very often as a synonym for male genitalia and that people could possibly be offended by the use of that term so its going to be asterisked. But if there is ever a Unsolved Mysteries segment about someone being murdered on a chicken farm, or if some one has to describe someone going through the motion of getting a pistol ready for firing, then the asterisks will arrive and we'll all be ****ed.

Or an internet weirdo who likes to screw with people and who has too much time on his hands. That's my bet.

I would bet the other way. There's too much emotion in those posts for it to be an uninvolved stranger. Also, crystaldawn said the IP address was coming from Warren, Ohio, which is the exact area.

If I had to guess, I would say posts 3, 4 and 5 are from Paul Pollis and 1, 2, 6, 7, 8 and 9 are from a close friend or relative. Posts 3, 4 and 5 differ not only in the lack of spaces but they are even more volatile than the others, as if from someone directly involved.

Plus, notice that posts 1 and 2, and 6 and 7, and 8 and 9 come shortly after each other, mere minutes. That person is content to read the recent posts then reply to more than one post with multiple responses. But posts 3, 4 and 5 are separated by big gaps, several days. That person visits infrequently and gets infuriated, spilling all his thoughts in one emotional post instead of several posts directed at somewhat different angles of the case.

THANK YOU, AWSI!!! I was saying the same thing to my partner in crime in this case. The posts are WAY too emotional to simply be from someone who is uninvolved in the case.

Once again, you're my hero. Mrs. Awsi is very lucky. :)

Warren, Ohio

Places like that give the rest of my state a bad name. Talk about Hickville!

*cocking eyebrow* I don't really think of "Hicksville" when I think of Ohio, Dislimb.

But then again, what do I know? I'm just a gal from Montana.... YEE-HAW! *mischevious grin*

*cocking eyebrow* I don't really think of "Hicksville" when I think of Ohio, Dislimb.

But then again, what do I know? I'm just a gal from Montana.... YEE-HAW! *mischevious grin*

You'd be quite surprised, my dear. Parts of Ohio are about as white trash as you can possibly get. We do share a border with West Virginia after all! Luckily, where I reside is nothing at all like that. I'm just a city boy. ;)

I figured it would take an immature guy to say Charlotte deserved to die because she was heavy. So many guys are intimidated by weight, that the poor woman could only attract a deviant willing to kill her. Good guys are scared to go out with heavy women because of the prejudice of most jerks. She deseved love and respect just as much as these anorexic chicks who think the world revolves around them.

So many guys are intimidated by weight, that the poor woman could only attract a deviant willing to kill her. Good guys are scared to go out with heavy women because of the prejudice of most jerks. She deseved love and respect just as much as these anorexic chicks who think the world revolves around them.

Something you want to tell us?

I figured it would take an immature guy to say Charlotte deserved to die because she was heavy.

Who the hell said that? :confused:

I figured it would take an immature guy to say Charlotte deserved to die because she was heavy. So many guys are intimidated by weight, that the poor woman could only attract a deviant willing to kill her. Good guys are scared to go out with heavy women because of the prejudice of most jerks. She deseved love and respect just as much as these anorexic chicks who think the world revolves around them.

It's hardly intimidated or scared. Primarily it's not attracted and not impressed. Obesity is accompanied by health issues and naturally limits what someone can do. Was Paul Pollis supposed to go on hikes with Charlotte? Or play tennis with her? I'm not saying he wanted to do things like that, and this case is merely a convenient example, but you can't pretend the weight situation isn't a factor for most guys. And gals. Of course, a small percentage prefer it.

On my trip a few weeks ago there were several obese women who seldom left the ship. I was at the major tourist sites and got to know one of the husbands a little bit. He said it was sad to him because when they were first married his wife was able to do all the activities. A higher percentage of men than women are overweight, but in terms of obesity and severe obesity women are in significantly higher percentage, particularly severely obese where it's slightly more than double, roughly 6% to 3%. Charlotte Pollis would have been far into the severely obese category, which is defined as a Body Mass Index >40.

Make the greatest car in the world and put a bulky and unappealing chasis on it, and you dramatically limit your buying base. It may be cruel to apply that to people but that's reality. When I seen an obese person my first thought is he/she doesn't think enough of himself to take basic care of the only body he'll ever have. Sometimes, of course, there may be sideline issues like medication or illness that influences the weight. Not often.

I've watched many TV programs where obese men and women are comforted and told how great they are. Those shows are admirable but they are also potentially limiting, if they try to camouflage or deny the fundamentals, that obesity restricts what you can do and often changes who is eager to do it alongside you.

Of course, it also impacts lifespan. A major study a few years ago found that young, obese white men live 13 fewer years than expected and very obese white women lose 8 years. The news was even worse for young, obese black men whose life spans are shortened by 20 years.

Well, that won't be popular.

She deseved love and respect just as much as these anorexic chicks who think the world revolves around them.

Some don't get what they deserve and others don't deserve what they get. And I've seen obese women who think the world revolves around them so you're not making too much sense.

Some don't get what they deserve and others don't deserve what they get. And I've seen obese women who think the world revolves around them so you're not making too much sense.

Good points. And I don't know how the weight got to be a topic. This thread has ballooned to 10 pages so maybe someone made an unfortunate wisecrack about Charlotte's weight early in the thread, but it certainly wasn't recent or a theme.

The primary mention of her weight has been in regard to a smallish, ass-kick vulnerable guy like Paul Pollis being able to transport her.

Good points. And I don't know how the weight got to be a topic. This thread has ballooned to 10 pages so maybe someone made an unfortunate wisecrack about Charlotte's weight early in the thread, but it certainly wasn't recent or a theme.

The primary mention of her weight has been in regard to a smallish, ass-kick vulnerable guy like Paul Pollis being able to transport her.

Yeh I'm not too sure myself how weight got into it, I think that's why a few of us thought ?WTF?

Huh. I don't think anyone meant any disrespect in the comments about Charlotte's weight. It was simply the statement of a fact; a fact that was brought up in the UM segment itself: the simple fact that Charlotte was over 300 pounds and that her husband weighed considerably less than that, adding to the theory that if he DID kill Charlotte, he had help with the removal of her body.

I think I know where the joke about her weight being a motive for the murder came from, and I would bet my legs that the person who said it WASN'T serious. (Short gals don't bet their legs, so I'm pretty serious when I say this.)

Paul Pollis being "ass-kick" vulnerable? Yeah. I'm a 5'2" gal who loves to kickbox. I'd kick that ass. Happily.

Huh. I don't think anyone meant any disrespect in the comments about Charlotte's weight. It was simply the statement of a fact; a fact that was brought up in the UM segment itself: the simple fact that Charlotte was over 300 pounds and that her husband weighed considerably less than that, adding to the theory that if he DID kill Charlotte, he had help with the removal of her body.



I agree. I think they meant that if he had done it (using if very loosely here..), he obviously didn't do it alone and had accomplices help him transport the body.

Paul Pollis being "ass-kick" vulnerable? Yeah. I'm a 5'2" gal who loves to kickbox. I'd kick that ass. Happily.


http://artwerker.tripod.com/flag_steel.jpg

Look at this website. Apparently started by Paul Pollis and Deborah Toda, before she pled guilty to grand theft, forgery, money laundering and other charges committed while she was bookkeeper to a kidney dialysis clinic.

It's a site with a legit sounding name that someone could easily stumble upon via web search. Not out of place to guess it was a scam. The contact link doesn't lead to the clinic, but to the Yahoo email address of todapollis@yahoo.com.

http://www.kidneyorgandonor.com/

Uh-oh.... I'm curious to see what Dislimb is going to do with THAT information.

And as for the website... that's kinda messed up. Just sayin'.

Uh-oh.... I'm curious to see what Dislimb is going to do with THAT information.

Well, I tried the phone number but it went straight to voicemail. I suppose they don't let you answer your cell phones when you're in jail! :lol:

Wow it is so weird reading about Charlotte on these boards. I went to high school with Charlotte and her brothers and sister. Charlotte was two years older than me. We went to a small school so even though I was never in any of their classes, everyone knew everyone. The only thing that I can personally add is that the Nagi family was and I am sure still is a good family. From what I remember they are a very close family who made friends easily and were well liked. I pray that one day they get the answers they need.

Is this topic still alive? I knew the Nagi family.

Look at this website. Apparently started by Paul Pollis and Deborah Toda, before she pled guilty to grand theft, forgery, money laundering and other charges committed while she was bookkeeper to a kidney dialysis clinic.

It's a site with a legit sounding name that someone could easily stumble upon via web search. Not out of place to guess it was a scam. The contact link doesn't lead to the clinic, but to the Yahoo email address of todapollis@yahoo.com.

http://www.kidneyorgandonor.com/
How much time is she serving?

*cocking eyebrow* I don't really think of "Hicksville" when I think of Ohio, Dislimb.

But then again, what do I know? I'm just a gal from Montana.... YEE-HAW! *mischevious grin*


Hey wait a ****ing minute here!!! I spent two long threads above this reply explaining about how the word **** gets asteriked out...and then you go and **** your eyebrow?!?

Was that a deliberate shot at the old Corkmeister?

MARCH 21, 2007:
Paul Pollis skips his day in court

http://www4.vindy.com/content/local_regional/351697762851336.php

The arrest warrant is the latest in Paul Pollis' legal problems.

WARREN — An arrest warrant was issued today for Paul Pollis of Warren for failing to appear for sentencing on a charge of failing to obey a city police officer.

Judge Andrew Logan of Trumbull County Common Pleas Court issued the warrant, and withdrew Pollis' $10,000 bond, when neither Pollis nor his attorneys, Thomas and Dan Letson of Warren, appeared for the hearing.

Pollis, 40, of Hoffman Circle, pleaded guilty to the third-degree felony Feb. 5 in a plea agreement, and could have received probation of between one and five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Contacted Tuesday, Atty. Dan Letson said he was not aware of the hearing.

The failure-to-obey offense stemmed from an episode Feb. 23, 2006, when police chased Pollis in a vehicle on Market Street near Forum Health Trumbull Memorial Hospital. A Warren police officer identified Pollis as the driver and tried to apprehend him, but the vehicle got away.

It is the latest in Pollis' legal problems.

On probation

Pollis was sentenced to 30 days in Trumbull County jail and placed on five years of intensive supervision probation in March 2006 for showing up at the Howland police chief's house in May 2005 with a handgun between the driver's seat and the console of his car.

Pollis gave the chief a false name, and asked whether Monroe knew where Pollis' first wife was. Pollis had reported Charlotte Nagi-Pollis missing in March 1994. At the time, the couple lived in Girard. Nagi-Pollis has not been found.

More recently, Pollis' wife, Deborah L. Toda, was sentenced to 25 years in prison last week for stealing $1.6 million from the Boardman office of a dialysis clinic. Charges against Pollis were dropped in that case in exchange for his testimony in the case.

Warren man goes to prison for disobeying cop's order

Published:Tuesday, March 27, 2007

WARREN — Paul Pollis will spend a year in prison for failing to obey the order or signal of a Warren police officer.

Pollis, 40, of Hoffman Circle, Warren, received his sentence today in Trumbull County Common Pleas Court. The sentencing was delayed by one week by his failure to appear last week.

Judge Andrew Logan said Pollis turned himself in to the jail last week after Judge Logan issued a warrant for his arrest for missing court. Judge Logan said the delay did not affect Pollis’ sentence.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2007/mar/27/warren-man-goes-to-prison-for-disobeying-cops-orde/

" In Howland, Pollis showed up at Chief Paul Monroe’s house May 30, 2005, gave the chief a false name and asked whether Monroe knew where Pollis’ wife was. Pollis had reported Charlotte Nagi-Pollis missing in March 1994. At the time the couple lived in Girard. Nagi-Pollis has not been found.

Monroe asked Pollis to get out of his vehicle, and Pollis refused, quickly backing out of the driveway. Monroe called Howland officers, who arrested Pollis and found a handgun between the driver’s seat and the console. "


Sounds like a perfectly innocent , sweet and loving human being that cares about his kids and would never do anything to harm anyone intentionally, huh?

Little ****er.

WOW!! If only it were for more than a year!!! :mad:

Hopefully he will get his "salad tossed."

Is this topic still alive? I knew the Nagi family.

Anything about them you'd like to share? I know that Charlotte's mother is on the run with her granddaughter, but is Charlotte's dad still in the area?

Does anyone have Paul's mugshot? I'd love to use it as an avatar.

Charlotte's Mom AND Dad were with Layla. They ALL were in protective custody until just recently. Layla is old enough to say where she wanted to live and has chosen to live with Charlotte's parents.

Her parents made a MAJOR sacrifice by protecting their granddaughter. They missed graduations, other grandchildren growing up, births of grandchildren, marriages and more.

Charlotte's Dad is very ill now and has finally been able to rejoin the rest of his children & grandchildren for his final days on earth.

Mr & Mrs Nagi are 2 wonderful people that have suffered so much more than anyone should ever have to. They love their family dearly and have suffered a great deal of heartache to get to where they are in life today.

As for Charlotte, it's not very likely that she will ever be found which means that Paul has gotten away with murder. The Girard Ohio police department has managed to "lose" some key evidence :mad: they had before the FBI & BCII (Bureau of Criminal Investigation and Identification) were called in to take over the case. However, it appears as though Paul's conscience is getting the best of him and he just keeps getting in more and more trouble with the law. HOPEFULLY he will one day snap and spill the beans. I just pray it's before Charlotte's Dad or Mom pass away.

The Nagi's are an amazing family. I wish you all could know them.

:(

This one rolled around on Ci yesterday and a few things I hadn't noticed before; Charlotte's mother is also named Charlotte.... never heard of naming your daughter the same as her mother before, just thought it was weird.

Charlotte was named after her Mother because her Mother suffered complications during delivery and Mr. Nagi wanted his Charlotte to live on if his wife passed away.

Well normally I would say the grandmother wouldn't have any grounds to kidnap the granddaughter. But given that Paul Pollis has become a "local character" in that certain town in Ohio makes me believe that the grandmother didn't commit the most heinous crime in the history of UM. The girl is in better hands with the grandmother than with Paul. I know it's been talked about before, but I'm still baffled why she didn't take the boy as well. Perhaps she wasn't able to.

Layla was spending the night with Charlotte's Mom & Dad. Her son was with Paul's parents.

Someone bumped my favorite thread. Yay! :crazy:

I wonder if Paul Pollis is out of the slammer yet and if he will finally accept my challenge to a fist fight on hot coals. How manly is that!? ticked:

I'm here when you need a defense attorney, dude. :)

Thanks for posting BlueAngelsRock. I am curious though as in the missing person websites they listed Layla and said that her grandmother kidnapped her. Are you saying they were in protective custody all these years and the police knew about it? Just curious. Also I'm wondering whatever happened to Charlotte and Paul's son? Would Charlotte's parents liked to have had him too and just weren't able to?

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This one rolled around on Ci yesterday and a few things I hadn't noticed before; Charlotte's mother is also named Charlotte.... never heard of naming your daughter the same as her mother before, just thought it was weird.

Charlotte was named after her Mother because her Mother suffered complications during delivery and Mr. Nagi wanted his Charlotte to live on if his wife passed away.

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It's actually quite common in certain ethnic groups for daughters to be named after their mothers. In Irish families, the third daughter in a family is traditionally named after the mother.

Although i believe Paul Pollis is guilty as sin of Charlotte's death.

I am open to the possibility that her death was a covered up accident.

That Paul may have struck her in a rage and she died. I just can;'t imagine that Paul's Parents would help him cover up a premeditated murder (of course unless he lied to them about it)

I also would not rule out that she died of natural causes and that there was some motive for Paul and his family to make sure she was a missing person rather than a dead person.

Would there be a financial or personal advantage to Paul to have Charlotte be listed as a missing person rather than as a deceased individual? :confused:

Thanks for posting BlueAngelsRock. I am curious though as in the missing person websites they listed Layla and said that her grandmother kidnapped her. Are you saying they were in protective custody all these years and the police knew about it? Just curious.

I AM saying that they were in protective custody all these years I am NOT saying that the local idiots in the Girard Police Department or any other local police department were aware that they were in protective custody. We all know the federal government can hide someone out when they want/need to. :) Unfortunately for the Nagi's, they had to have NO contact with ANYONE in their families that includes children, other grandchildren, sisters or brothers of Mr & Mrs Nagi.

There is A LOT to try to wrap your mind around in this situation and all I can say is that ANYTIME I hear of a missing person, my heart goes out to their family and friends and I find myself right back at Charlotte and her family. I'm only a friend of the family with Charlotte being one of my friends in high school and my oldest daughter's first name came from a suggestion from Mrs. Nagi. But as a mere friend, the heartache for the Nagi's, and the anger, hatred & rage towards Paul is sometimes more than I can bear. I can only imagine how truly awful it is for her brothers, sister, parents and other relatives. I've never walked so much as an inch in their shoes and I pray I never do. I'm pretty sure it would be more than I could bear.

There is more to this investigation that I'd rather not go into just in case some of Charlotte's brothers or her sister ever do read these posts. I know that anything ever done regarding this case was brought to the oldest brother, Ali, before it hit the news so they know everything there is to know but I knew a diver for the sheriff's office who gave me info that was never published. So just know that the many divisions of law enforcement from the local idiots to the federal government and those in between, have done a good job searching for her or her body with what evidence the Girard Police Department DIDN'T lose.

If any of Charlotte's family is reading this post, know that you are forever in my heart even though we are now MANY miles apart. Miles cannot break a bond that was built on love and respect.

Layla was spending the night with Charlotte's Mom & Dad. Her son was with Paul's parents.
I'm happy to hear that Layla is with the Nagi's. I only knew Charlotte through
a mutual friend and met the family only once or twice, but they were very kind people and based on what my friend told me at the time, they were most certainly protecting Layla. That little girl suffered greatly at the time and
I can only hope Layla and the family have gained a measure of peace in their
lives. Thanks for the update - I've thought about Charlotte from time to time
over the years and kept hoping I would hear of a break in the case or of Paul's arrest.

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A lot of cases that ended up on UM were just botched by local authorities.

regarding the brief interviews with paul pollis contained in the charlotte pollis UM segment-


Interview scene 1: Paul Pollis nods his head forward, as he asserts "I know I did nothing wrong, and I can't change what other people think." The nodding of the head implies he honestly agrees with what he is saying. He very firmly nods his head as he is saying this. He really believes he did nothing wrong, and he also really believes he genuinely can't change what other people think.
In his famous note he wrote that he would never “intentionally” hurt her. What he did may have been unintentional, which is why he can so honestly say that he believes he did nothing wrong.

Interview scene 2: Paul Pollis nods his head forward when he says that he, “took the kids out for the afternoon, to run errands.”This does indicate that at some point he really did take the kids out of the house. As soon as he goes on to explain what he told his wife, he begins to shake his head. This is consistent with him disagreeing with what he is saying.
“One of the easiest ways to uncover a dis¬guised objection when dealing with others is to watch if the person uses the headshake gesture while verbalizing his agreement with you. Take, for example, the person who verbalizes, ‘Yes, I can see your point of view’, or, ‘I really enjoy working here’, or, ‘We’ll definitely do business after Christmas’, whilst shaking his head from side to side. Even though this may sound convincing, the head shake gesture signals that a negative attitude exists and you would be well advised to reject what the person has said and to question him further.” –Body Language, Alan Pease
He says, “I’ll bring the medication that you need back, just stay in bed and take it easy”. His body language implies that he may have told her he would bring her medication back at some point in time, but that he never told her to stay in bed and take it easy. The whole interview scene 2 is full of constant head shaking, which indicates he is not being truthful.

Interview scene 3: Through the entire scene I’ve noticed a few things. First, his right eyebrow remains higher than the left. This leads me to believe he is trying hard to control his body language. The eyebrow raise is a micro gesture that indicates he is doing something conflicting. When he first says, “my children were with me all afternoon,” he shakes his head very slightly several times. I almost didn’t notice the mini-head shakes. Also, his nostrils seem to flare when talking about his children. It seems that people have offended him when discussing how he raises or takes care of his children. He also looks to his right often, this is peculiar. He puts his head down when he says he would never leave them unattended. This lowering of the head indicates shame. He looks like a guilty child being scolded. He starts to raise his head up again when he compliments his own parenting skills.

Interview scene 4: he constantly shakes his head through everything he says, with the majority of the shaking while he is talking. His eyebrow raises when he says he watched tv (along with some serious head shakes). If I am not mistaken, he also appears to have a sad look come over his face when he mentions cleaning the house.

Interview scene 5: He looks the angriest in this scene. He seems to be snarling like a dog. He seems to be the angriest when he says, “it’s a shed.” He shakes his head constantly, once again. This is a complete lie. His voice pitch changes and he raises his head unusually when he explains that a key lock was on the shed.

Interview scene 6: “I like to live in a clean house (shakes head)” --My personal favorite quote

Interview scene 7: He appears to be holding back or hiding something. More tiny head shakes occur, and his eyebrow is raised.

Interview scene 8: He is acting like he is proud of himself and didn’t really want a pat on the back anyways. He is trying to look like he didn’t care that nobody comforted him, even though he is upset that people just came by to look.

Interview scene 9: He seems to have a frown, or fear, come over his face when he says, “I didn’t kill my wife.” He indicates through his head shakes that he does know where she is. I think the most suspicious thing he does what follows when he firmly says that his family didn’t have anything to do with it. He is trying to look very serious when he says his family had nothing to do with it. So, why then, does he follow that line with, “as far as I know.” That completely contradicts the whole thing. It’s like saying I am 100% sure, I think.




Over all the footage is very poor quality. Does anyone know where I could obtain a higher quality clip of this? It is hard to see all his facial expressions and I’d like to analyze it further.

klavkhalash,

Wouldn't you love to have footage of Paul Pollis' entire body, head to toe, during this interview? I bet he really gives off tons of body language clues that would would be way more incriminating than the polygraph he refused to take.

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It's been 15 years since 28 year old Charlotte Nagi-Pollis disappeared from her Girard home. No one has seen or heard from her since her 1994 disappearance. The case remains in the hands of police, still unsolved. Her family and friends remain committed to finding out exactly what happened to her.

Ali Nagy, Charlotte's brother says, "I think about her everyday." Walking through his sister's old house on Girard's Ward Avenue, Ali has formed his own opinions on what happened to Charlotte on the day she disappeared. He believes Charlotte's husband Paul murdered her after an argument inside that very house.

Pointing to specific locations in the home, Ali recalls the disturbing discoveries he made as he searched for answers to his sister's whereabouts. "Over here was a couch where I found two pillows with blood stains, that Girard police still have. And inside this cedar chest, when I opened this up, right back there in the corner is where I found a blanket with blood spatters and stuff on it."

There was no history of violence in the marriage, but Ali remembers several days before she disappeared, Charlotte wasn't acting quite like herself. "And what triggered the alarms for me is, she was asking if I'd be willing to take care of her kids if anything happened. And saying there were certain items she wanted set aside if anything happened. And I say, what's going on? Is he hitting you? Because if he is, I'll go upstairs right now and get it taken care of. She said no, I'm just saying in general." Ali says it was only a few days later he got a disturbing message from Paul on his answering machine asking if anyone had seen Charlotte, claiming he was worried because he hadn't seen her all day. "Right when the message came out, I said, he did something to my sister," Ali recalls.

Ali says he didn't buy Paul's story for a second, and as a Trumbull County Reserve Deputy, immediately began digging for answers. A missing person report was filed the next morning. Girard Police Captain John Norman remembers being one of the first officers on the case. " It was apparent she had left without a winter jacket and in some sort of pajama or night clothes."

Suspicions quickly began turning to Paul, especially after a small blood stain was found in the trunk of his car. It was too small to test for a positive ID, but to Charlotte's family, it was proof.

The community quickly began organizing searches for Charlotte's body, with many in the public changing their opinion of Paul. He was no longer being seen as a grieving husband, but as a suspect with something to hide. Paul, however, maintained his innocence, saying, "I hurt just like anybody else. I don't know what happened. I don't know why it happened. But I'm getting pummeled by all this and I don't know what happened to my wife. Please leave me alone!"

Within days, Paul himself disappeared, claiming the public scrutiny was too much. He'd been scheduled to take a lie detector test, but stayed in hiding for nearly three months, only returning when Girard Police filed charges against him for obstructing their investigation. He never did take the polygraph.

Charlotte's family never gave up, continuing their search for answers each and every day.


http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:BFGzO...n&ct=clnk&gl=us

Very interesting article. My husband's family is from that area, so this case always interest me. Here is part 2 of that report (http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/No-Body-No-Crime-Part-2/6vM5a2gW20Ozr0IH2vyDQA.cspx)-

When Charlotte Nagi Pollis vanished on March 12, 1994, she was literally gone without a trace. No body. No evidence. No proof of a crime.

Still, it hasn't stopped Charlotte's brother Ali, who admits he still spends hours pouring over police reports, public records, and anything he can get his hands on that might eventually help him find closure.

"Every day I try to do something to help her case," says Girard Captain John Normand.

Ali remains convinced his sister's husband Paul Pollis is responsible. We went to Paul's home in Howland to see what he has to say more than a decade later. He didn't want our cameras inside, but did say the last 15 years have been difficult. "People don't understand that at all, and they all pointed the finger at me over the years. And I've just resigned myself that's how the public's going to see me, and it's unfortunate, and after years of my in-laws not giving... come on in," says Ali Nagi, Charlotte's brother.

Only the reporter was allowed in after that. When asked if he had anything to do with his wife's disappearance, Pollis never said no. He simply said that he's answered that question in the past. "I don't know what happened to my wife," says Pollis.

Police say they've also had little contact with Pollis since Charlotte vanished.

"I understand Ali checks in with you often, just to see if there are any new developments?" the reporter asked.

"Oh yes, he does," says Normand.

"Does Paul?"

"No."

What Paul has had is run-ins with the law. Over the last decade, he's been arrested by numerous area departments for charges ranging from domestic violence to money laundering to firearms violations.

"I think his conscience is eating at him. And I think he feels, for 15 years, he's not gotten caught for what he did, so I think he feels invincible against the law. He thinks he's above the law," says Ali.

Girard police continue to follow tips and clues regarding the case today, and combined with Ali Nagi's determination, they are confident the questions surrounding Charlotte's disappearance will one day be answered.

"If it takes me from heaven and earth, I don't care what it takes, I will help solve my sister's case," says Ali.

Like a lot of people have said, Paul seems guilty as hell. He has an attitude of indifference towards his wife's disappearance. Worst of all, his daughter seems traumatized by seeing her mother's body being put into a bag. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. "I like a clean house" did it. He should enjoy the confines of a dirty jail cell.

No doubt the daughter was coached by Charlottes mother but Paul did do it for sure, just his demeanor and body language during the interview smacked of "I did it but you can't prove it"

Well....if Pollis ever gets bored when in a cell, he could always clean it.

Was Paul the one who said something like "I don't need to prove anything, God knows the truth."

I agree that Paul seems like the only person involved in her disappearance, with perhaps the help of his parents. It did surprise me, however, to read that there was no history of violence between he and Charlotte (at least reported) and that she had mentioned to her brother the idea of taking care of her children. However slim, it does leave one wondering if she could have been planning something and wanted to make sure her children would be okay. I know that is very slim, but something to think about.

The most damning evidence against paul (I don't consider behavior very relevant, since we all react differently, and his hostile behavior could be due to being accused of a crime) is him fleeing the area right before having to take a polygraph, and still not taking one.

The thing that I remember most about this case was Charlotte's mom saying that they usually talk something like 10 times a day, or something to that effect... very very odd.

However slim, it does leave one wondering if she could have been planning something and wanted to make sure her children would be okay. I know that is very slim, but something to think about.

Keep in mind that Charlotte was a very heavy woman and had some health problems around that time. Not saying she couldn't run away but it seems unlikely.

The thing that I remember most about this case was Charlotte's mom saying that they usually talk something like 10 times a day, or something to that effect... very very odd.

That wasn't the only odd thing she did. From what I understand she tried to kidnapped one of her grandkids.

Keep in mind that Charlotte was a very heavy woman and had some health problems around that time. Not saying she couldn't run away but it seems unlikely.



That wasn't the only odd thing she did. From what I understand she tried to kidnapped one of her grandkids.
Actually, I think the grandmother did kidnap one of the grandkids, the daughter, if I am not mistaken. I believe they were in hiding for years but don't know details. Anyone out there help with this one?

Keep in mind that Charlotte was a very heavy woman and had some health problems around that time. Not saying she couldn't run away but it seems unlikely.



That wasn't the only odd thing she did. From what I understand she tried to kidnapped one of her grandkids.

I remember reading that too mastermind. I can't blame the poor mom (although I must say, she really did come off as the mother in law that no man wants to have) :crazy: ... anyway, if I thought my son-in-law killed my daughter, and then I had to watch him raise my grandchild, I'd probably be off my chain as well.

Howland man gets more prison time for violation of probation

Published: Tue, June 23, 2009 @ 12:00 a.m.

The original gun charge behind the probation violations involved a visit to the Howland police chief’s home.

STAFF REPORT

WARREN — Paul Pollis, the 42-year-old city man sent to prison for a year in 2007 for violating his probation, has been sentenced to 18 more months in prison for violating probation again.

Pollis, of Hoffman Circle Northeast, has made news numerous times in recent years.

He was arrested May 17 and has been in Trumbull County Jail since then for testing positive for marijuana and failing to appear for appointments with his probation officer for about six months, said Chris Becker, assistant Trumbull County prosecutor.

Pollis will receive credit for the time he spent in the county lockup since May.

In May 2005, he showed up unannounced at Howland Police Chief Paul Monroe’s house, gave the chief a false name and asked whether Monroe knew where Pollis’ first wife was.

Pollis had reported Charlotte Nagi-Pollis missing in March 1994. At the time, the couple lived in Girard. Nagi-Pollis has not been found.

When Pollis drove off from Monroe’s house, the chief called Howland officers, who arrested Pollis and found a handgun between the driver’s seat and the console.

In 2007, Pollis was implicated but later had charges dismissed against him in a case involving another wife, Deborah Toda, who was convicted of stealing $1.6 million from the North Central Pennsylvania Dialysis Clinic on Market Street in Boardman, where she worked as an accountant.

Toda is serving a 25-year prison term for the crimes.

Pollis was sentenced to five years’ probation in March 2006 for the incident at Monroe’s house.

The first time Pollis violated his probation was Feb. 24, 2006, when he fled from Warren police on Market Street near Forum Health Trumbull Memorial Hospital.

Events in the life of Paul Pollis:

March 1994: Pollis’ first wife, Charlotte Nagi-Pollis, comes up missing. She has not been found.

March 2006: Pollis was sentenced to five years’ probation in for showing up unannounced at Howland Police Chief Paul Monroe’s house, and being found with a gun in the console of his car a short time later.

March 17, 2007: Paul Pollis’ second wife, Deborah Toda, is sentenced to 25 years in prison for stealing $1.6 million from a Boardman dialysis clinic where she worked as an accountant.

March 27, 2007: Pollis is sentenced to a year in prison for violating his probation by failing to stop for police and other offenses on Market Street near Forum Health Trumbull Memorial Hospital in February 2006.

May 17, 2009: Pollis is arrested on probation violation for failing a drug test and failing to report for meetings with his probation officer.

Source: Vindicator files

http://www.vindy.com/news/2009/jun/23/howland-man-gets-more-prison-time-for-violation-of/?newswatch

first let me say, i HIGHLY doubt that the little daughter of Paul and Charlotte's was afraid of a dark trash bag and that is coaching 101 to me, BUT i feel Paul did do it. in the UM segment, he acted guilty and what i heard he did sounded guilty, first the shed was locked, couldn't go in there and he complained about Charlotte's families attitude toward the shed, Second if you are innocent, why disappear when you were scheduled for a polygraph?? and Thrid, what was up with the cleaning and why did he say that STUPID statement, "i clean, i live there, i like to live in a clean house" that makes you sound more guilty than anything. I believe he did this crime, plus the neighbor who saw him helps out Charlotte's family, but Charlotte's mom has no business taking her granddaughter and has no business coaching the kid either.

Paul Pollis is as guilty as sin. It is in every ounce of his body language and his actions. Who takes off for a month or two when his wife is missing. Seems to me he had some business to take care of and some loose ends to tie up.

I don't think either family was particularily normal. And even though Paul cleaned the house top to bottom I never really felt that his mother was involved in any way. Just a hunch, nothing else. She was old, she was petitte, I have a hard time seeing her help Paul lift what seemed to be a very heavy Charlotte anywhere. She just seemed a little naive, that's all. Blinded if you want to go that far. Kind of like a Stepford wife who would think nothing of cleaning a house.

Now Paul on the other hand had a good reason to clean and we all know why. To me this is nothing more than shoddy police work. He should be in jail by now

I don't think either family was particularily normal.
i agree, i think personally that Paul had a friend help him or his dad, i think, if anything all his mom did was watch the children.

Now Paul on the other hand had a good reason to clean and we all know why.
yeah, but his cleaning didn't make me suspect him, it was his answers and the way he answered them, like his famous, i clean, i live there, i like to live in a clean house, why get so defensive?

Paul never came off as endearing in his UM segment, did he? I don't think Charlotte staged her disappearence and I do believe he had something to do with it.

I had to do a double take when I looked up Charlotte's case online because I had forgotten she was about 300 pounds when she disappeared. The sister may or may not be lying, but Paul didn't look like the type of person who could handle 300 pounds of dead weight (no pun intended) on his own, and I don't recall anyone mentioning drag marks outside. That would be the only way to get someone in a shed by yourself.

I felt for her family in the segment, but the mother went about it all wrong when she took her granddaughter. Though I can say I understand where she is coming from. I'm baffeled also by her not taking the son, but I'm getting the impression it may have been a spur of the moment type thing and the daughter was the only person she could access.

Just my 2 cents on the case. I could be way off.

Paul never came off as endearing in his UM segment, did he? I don't think Charlotte staged her disappearence and I do believe he had something to do with it.

I had to do a double take when I looked up Charlotte's case online because I had forgotten she was about 300 pounds when she disappeared. The sister may or may not be lying, but Paul didn't look like the type of person who could handle 300 pounds of dead weight (no pun intended) on his own, and I don't recall anyone mentioning drag marks outside. That would be the only way to get someone in a shed by yourself.

I felt for her family in the segment, but the mother went about it all wrong when she took her granddaughter. Though I can say I understand where she is coming from. I'm baffeled also by her not taking the son, but I'm getting the impression it may have been a spur of the moment type thing and the daughter was the only person she could access.

Just my 2 cents on the case. I could be way off.

Paul Pollis has a slight build by the looks of it. His wife was a big woman. No doubt about it he has help, and I don't know a person on here that has ever defended him thinking he is innocent

Paul Pollis has a slight build by the looks of it. His wife was a big woman. No doubt about it he has help, and I don't know a person on here that has ever defended him thinking he is innocent

He just rubbed me the wrong way in the segment, he was one of those people that sometimes you have a feeling about when it comes to guilt. I can't say he is or isn't, BUT it's something about him that screamed guilty.

He just rubbed me the wrong way in the segment, he was one of those people that sometimes you have a feeling about when it comes to guilt. I can't say he is or isn't, BUT it's something about him that screamed guilty.

Like cleaning the house when his wife is missing. The house was so clean that I believe detectives never have seen a house that clean in their life. Or the tool shed thing by not opening it. Or the lack of alibi. The neighbour eyewitness. Yeah the circumstantial evidence screams on this one.

Like cleaning the house when his wife is missing. The house was so clean that I believe detectives never have seen a house that clean in their life. Or the tool shed thing by not opening it. Or the lack of alibi. The neighbour eyewitness.
to me, what makes me suspect Paul is not only the cleaning and all the other stuff, it's how defensive he is, like with the cleaning, he claimed, he liked to live in a clean house, which is a good answer, but the way he answered it made me suspect him more.

I'm glad everyone is on the same page with this.

He was very guilty.

Plus, let's face it: Does Paul Pollis really strike you as the type of husband who does house cleaning??? I picture him sitting on the sofa with a beer in his hand watching the game while his wife runs around doing everything.

I thought it was totally disingenuous when he said "I like to live in a clean house." Please.

Oh goodness, and his mother:

"Oh that is just RIDICULOUS" in a Scarlett O'Hara voice.

I believe she said, "absolutely ludicrous". When someone uses the word ludicrous, it makes it nearly impossible for me to believe them.

Me too, especially when they are putting on a Southern accent.

Paul Pollis was SO guilty. Although Charlotte's mom struck me as off when she said that she called Charlotte twenty times a day or something like that! I mean, really.....

Paul Pollis was SO guilty.
agree, he comes off as VERY defensive and he looks guilty with his answers, unlike some who have been accused, he actually makes me suspect him more when he answers
Although Charlotte's mom struck me as off when she said that she called Charlotte twenty times a day or something like that!
While Paul is (in my book) guilty, Charlotte's mom doesnt make me happy either. I do NOT believe that Charlotte and Paul's daughter is afraid of dark trash bags and i for one, think she was coached. Wherever Charlotte's mother and granddaughter are, i hope they are found.

Oh I agree about Charlotte's mom being annoying as well as Paul Pollis and yes I think she was being coached about the black trash bags as well

Oh goodness, and his mother:

"Oh that is just RIDICULOUS" in a Scarlett O'Hara voice.

She probably didn't have anything to do with it. She seemed like a mother who would believe anything her son has to say. At best I always thought her biggest crime was being naive. Who knows, she might be a woman who is controlled by her husband and son. She might be a woman who does what she is told without having the audacity to ask questions. I highly doubt Paul would let his naive mother witness a murder and help clean it up.

It could have gone like this:

"Mom, I don't know where Charlotte is, I think she left me"

"Oh dear, no!"

"Look I'm a little stressed out, do you want to help me clean the house up before we have the police come by, I'd hate to have them see it as a mess."

"Oh sure Paul"


Sound like a good possibility? That way mother dearest is off the hook and murderer Paul leaves mommy out of it and goes about his own business

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Oh goodness, and his mother:

"Oh that is just RIDICULOUS" in a Scarlett O'Hara voice.

She probably didn't have anything to do with it. She seemed like a mother who would believe anything her son has to say. At best I always thought her biggest crime was being naive. Who knows, she might be a woman who is controlled by her husband and son. She might be a woman who does what she is told without having the audacity to ask questions. I highly doubt Paul would let his naive mother witness a murder and help clean it up.

It could have gone like this:

"Mom, I don't know where Charlotte is, I think she left me"

"Oh dear, no!"

"Look I'm a little stressed out, do you want to help me clean the house up before we have the police come by, I'd hate to have them see it as a mess."

"Oh sure Paul"


Sound like a good possibility? That way mother dearest is off the hook and murderer Paul leaves mommy out of it and goes about his own business

That's probably what he said to his mother.

But i think his mother was more up to speed than you suggest.
I think she could read between the lines and figure out what her son did to Charlotte.

Like any mother, she was willing to protect her baby boy, even if it meant being an accessory.

It's old news but news to me, Paul Pollis's new wife was jailed for 25 years for money laundering. Paul was only given a light sentence for his co-opertation in the case. The 1.6 million was embezzled from a dialysis clinic by the both of them. He certainly is a shady, lying good for nothing deadbeat.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pollis_charlotte.html

It's old news but news to me, Paul Pollis's new wife was jailed for 25 years for money laundering. Paul was only given a light sentence for his co-opertation in the case. The 1.6 million was embezzled from a dialysis clinic by the both of them. He certainly is a shady, lying good for nothing deadbeat.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pollis_charlotte.html

While there is no physical evidence linking Paul to ANY crime, his actions since Charlotte's disappearance lead me to believe he was definitely involved. It's not like he's been living a quiet, law abiding life all these years. 1.6 million dollars in money laundering is a VERY serious crime. This guy is a loser for sure.

Just watched this segment.


Damn. I must say, Paul Pollis is only second to Donnie Hansen in the "List of the Most Guiltiest Bastards Ever Profiled on UM." Like, wow. Its crazy to know that Charlotte's sister was only a foot away from her mutilated body in the shed.

Oh goodness, and his mother:

"Oh that is just RIDICULOUS" in a Scarlett O'Hara voice.

Has anybody seen the movie "In a Child's Name" with Valerie Bertenelli? This is the movie with the famous "luminol" scene, about the murder of Teresa Taylor by her husband Dr. Taylor?

Anyways, Dr. Taylor's mother is played by "Nurse Ratchet" and acts exactly like Paul Polis' mother - "why, my son would never!" It's really intriguing to watch. I can't help but think that Mrs. Polis is an actress by the way she's speaking.

Just a quick post about the giant cheeseburger. Everybody talks as if it is real. It is obviously plastic. It looks like a cheeseburger-shaped bucket that a kid's meal (Happpy Meal) would come in. One thing about the segment that was odd... he talks about going to a playground when it is snowing (unless it is an indoor playground ala McDonald's).

I posed this in another thread, and here's my take on the case:

I finally got around to rewatching this segment, and decided to watch it more intently than I have before. Here's my take on Paul Pollis:

THE EVIDENCE:
-As far as I can tell, there is only one piece of evidence, which is circumstantial, that could tie him to his wife's disappearance. And that is the small amount of blood found in his trunk. But the amount was so small, it couldn't be tested. The UM segment suggested that there was speculation that Paul put Charlotte's body in the trunk of the car which resulted in the blood. But if the amount was miniscule, just how did Paul kill her? Not to mention that Charlotte was twice his size, and this would have been close to impossible for Paul to transport Charlotte's body out from his house without being seen by anyone.

-There was also the testimony of Paul's neighbor, who said she saw Paul standing near his car, which was full of boxes and bags. I'm assuming the implication is that Paul was either hauling Charlotte's body, or getting rid of evidence tying him to the crime. But his neighbor says there was "no sign of the children". So where were they? And just how did Paul get Charlotte's body into a car full of "bags and boxes"? Couldn't it be that Paul was getting the car ready for errands, before he put the kids in it, when the neighbor drove by? And isn't ten after 11 a bad time to haul a dead body out of a house and put it into a car?

CHARLOTTE'S FAMILY:
-I never noticed, until I read through this thread, that Charlotte's mother does not play with a full deck. When she said she talked to her daughter 10-14 times a day, I thought ok they're just really close to one another. Then her mother goes on to say that she called her at 1:30 a.m. in the morning after her trip to the hospital, presumabely to let her know that everything was fine. Nothing wrong with that, just seemed like a mother worried for her daughter. Her mother then calls the next day at 9 o'clock to see how she's doing. Maybe Charlotte was an early bird, or didn't like sleeping in, so I didn't find it that odd that her mother called her at 9, since she was probably concerned about Charlotte (since she went to the hospital). Paul answered the call at 9 and told Charlotte's mother that she was still in bed resting, just as the doctors told her. Then her mother called an hour later and continued to call every ten minutes because no one answered the phone! This is when the craziness really began to shine through. Your daughter is supposed to be resting, why was she so alarmed at the fact that no one was answering the phone? Granted, had she been calling all day, I can see that warranting being worried, but an hour after talking to Paul? Come on. What exactly was there to be worried about? Paul had already made it known that she was supposed to be resting, so why automatically assume the worst because no one answered an hour after your son-in-law told you that your daughter was asleep? Not to mention that Charlotte did not go to sleep until close to two in the morning! Who in their right mind would think their daughter would be up and ready to talk on the phone will little sleep and an ear infection? In the UM segment her mother said, "I think Paul got angry and he struck her and he couldn't stop himself. I think Paul killed my daughter." Yet there was never any indication that Paul was violent or abusive, and by all accounts the couple was happy.

-Charlotte's brother, mother, and sister all said on the UM segment that Paul and his parents cleaned the house from top to bottom in the days after Charlotte's disappearance. Even the investigator interviewed said that the house was spotless, which was very unusual to him. My question here is, how in the hell would Charlotte's immediate family know what was going on in Paul's house? Just how did they know that they were there cleaning from top to bottom all day? Where they watching them the entire day? I don't think so. Or was it more likely that Charlotte's family stopped by Paul's house to check out what was going on, saw Paul's mother cleaning the floor (since one of the children spilled something) which set off this whole conspiracy about Paul and his parents attempting to cover something devious up? And what about the luminol testing? There was countless cases in which luminol testing was done on an area that was thoroughly cleaned, which still revealed blood stains. Yet there was none found in the Pollis residence. So either Paul Pollis could put Billy Mays to shame in a cleaning contest, or there was never any blood in the house to begin with.

-Charlotte's sister then goes into detail about the two sets of footprints that led back to the shed in the Pollis's backyard. The sister says, "The doors were bulging pretty much out of the shed. They just had like a regular padlock on it and it kind of bothered me the way the shed was because the doors weren't flush against it. So I'd gone into the house and I had asked Paul for the keys." But then it's Charlotte's mother, not her sister that says Paul became angered about the request. For one thing, the sister honestly has no business poking around in the shed. She doesn't work in law enforcement, isn't a trained investigator, and she really has no right to demand that Paul open it. And this was the same day Charlotte was reported missing, why was she so insistent of checking out the shed, let alone the backyard? Why would Charlotte's family even suspect Paul in anyway at that point? Shouldn't they have been going around town looking for her or possibly her vehicle? The Charley Project website then states "Charlotte's brother returned to their home the following day and saw that the shed doors were closed normally. He looked inside and noticed that all of the items had been shoved to one side." So how did the brother gain access to the shed, if Paul had the only key? I know in their minds they are speculating that Paul had Charlotte's body in the shed, which is why it was "bulging", but then moved her body after the sister left. But isn't it just as likely that Paul, angered at the insistance that Charlotte's sister let her go poking around the shed refused her request, but perhaps the brother came over the next day more calm and level headed and Paul had no problem with it? If the brother "looked inside" the shed, then Paul obviously let him in or gave him the key. The sister goes on to add, "I looked at Paul's shoe prints and they were the same footprints that were in the snow. And the other footprints were fairly large with a shoe boot who I can suspect would've been his father's but they you know, I can't be definite on that." No **** sherlock! Charlotte's sister was not a detective, nor an investigator, nor in any way shape or form a forensic expert. So how in the hell did she determine that they were Paul's foot prints? And if they were, who cares? It was his house! And she gets downright close to libel in stating that the other foot prints could be Paul's father's. By this point in the segment I realized the entire family wasn't playing with a full deck, not just the mother.

I got the impression (based solely off of the UM segment) that Charlotte's family were very tactless and thought nothing of who or what their implications and gossip mongering could have hurt. This just seems like a scorned family, who holds Paul responsible their loved one's disappearance, spreading gossip, rumors, and half-truths.

PAUL'S ACTIONS:

-A lot has been made on the fact that Paul came off horrible in his interview on UM. Some people said he was very arrogant, and sometimes smug in his responses. Let's assume for a second that he is 100% innocent. His wife had been missing for two years at the time of the taping of the UM segment, which was a whole two years of Charlotte's family and the people in the surrounding areas suspecting and publically naming Paul as a murderer. He had every right to be bitter and smug in his interview.

-I have stated previously that an innocent man does not flee, nor does he leave a note saying he would never hurt his wife intentionally, but after re-watching the segment Paul actually does offer a decent enough explanation. No one really knows what they would do in a situation like that, but if the people in the town really were driving by gawking at him, not to mention the murmurs around town that he killed his wife, then I could see how someone would want to get away from it all.

-All accounts indicate that the Pollis's marriage was a happy one, and Paul was not abusive in any way towards Charlotte. He took her to the hospital late at night over a routine ear infection, which does not seem like the actions of someone planning on killing their wife and hiding their body. Seems like the actions of a man who truely does care for and loves his wife.

-Paul called their friends the same day Charlotte disappeared. The phone message played on UM sounds legit IMO, and either Paul is a wonderful actor or he was honestly worried about where his wife's whereabouts. This was an age before cell phones, and I could see how Paul would initially suspect Charlotte went off with a family member or friend before he got back. And Paul himself is the one that brings up her purse, saying she wouldn't go anywhere without it. Why would he feel the need to even bright this up if he's guilty, which would implicate him more than help clear him? Why not dispose of the purse as well, so it would appear as though Charlotte simply took off to start a new life?

SO WHAT HAPPENED?

-IMHO, the only way Charlotte Pollis could have been taken out of her house, without causing a stir, would have to have been at gunpoint. I don't think there was any firearm ever tied to Paul Pollis, or it would have been mentioned on UM or the Charley Project website. So I do think it's possible (as in the Ayleen Conway case) that maybe Charlotte did disrupt a burglary attempt. Maybe there was a burglar/s who watched Paul and his children leave, and then they decided to break in figuring no one was home. But they discovered Charlotte was in fact still home, which is why they aborted their original plan and took her out of the house and killed her at an unknown location. And it's also possible that the burglar/s may have known either Charlotte and/or Paul, so they killed her out of fear of being identified. I honestly do think that scenario is just as likely as Paul Pollis being responsible in Charlotte's disappearance.

CONCLUSION:

-Is Paul innocent or guilty? I'm honestly still on the fence on this one. I used to think he was guilty, but these points I have presented in my post make me question that. However, Paul is still contradicted by several people who in fact did say they saw him but not his kids. Yet Paul said he had his kids with him the entire afternoon. For Paul to have pulled all of this off he would have had to accomplish some insurmountable feats. For one, he would have had to have moved a body twice his size without being noticed. Although it's entirely possible that Paul had help in the crime, who exactly would have helped? The Pollis's were happily married, which would seem to indicate to me that Paul's parents loved Charlotte. Would they really stand by and let their son get away with murder, or even worse, actually help their son cover it up? Really? Both parents? Paul would have had to have killed his wife shortly after she got off the phone with her mother at 1:25 a.m. He then would have had to have moved her body, possibly to the shed, possibly with help (which would take more time for an accomplice to arrive to help move Charlotte's body). Then he would have had to have started cleaning up the crime scene. This would mean that Paul would have had little to no sleep that night since he was up all night concocting the perfect crime. Yet there was no indication given by anyone that saw him that Saturday that he was fatigued or exhausted. And he would have had to have pulled all of this off within earshot (and possibly eyesight) of his children, all the while keeping up the facade that nothing was wrong (feeding them breakfast, running erands, etc.). And if the neighbor who claims to have seen Paul and his car backed up towards his porch shortly after 11 in the morning is correct, where were the kids? It's possible that Paul could have called his parents to come pick them up, or watch them, yet we have no eyewitness testimony that placed the parents at Paul's house until Sunday. I honestly do not think Paul Pollis could have been able to commit the perfect crime. Even LE had to concede that there was "no evidence that a crime was even committed". You really have to sit back and ask yourself, is Paul Pollis really that intelligent and cunning that he could have pulled this off? And if so, why? Until there is new evidence brought to light, the case of Charlotte Pollis is still an unsolved missing persons case.

I am on the fence on this case, too....I think Paul was involved but the scientific evidence is thin.

Not to make light of Charlotte either missing or dead, but someone once suggested seh ran away from her controlling mother!!


Charlotte's mother does not play with a full deck
I have known close mother/daughter duos before but they take the cake! Or the giant cheeseburger!!

There was also once a suggestion that Charlotte faked her death to get away from Paul, maybe it was from Paul and her mother both?

I read a loooong time ago that Charolotte's mom kidnapped the daughter but not the son and both kids are now grown. Sorry I can't be more descriptive.

I, personally, would not buy into the "faking her death" scenario as a loving and caring mom, as Charlotte seemed to be, would just pick up her kids and leave.

I am a mom and the LAST thing I would ever want my kids to think is that I left them....pretended to be dead rather than be with them.

Charlotte's mom may have been a little over the top but I am sure she would have supported Charlotte leaving Paul and living with her. Not my cup of cocoa....but hey maybe Charlotte would have loved it!

If her husband isn't guilty, he is really really stupid, because the actions he took after her disappearance make him look VERY suspicious. This is not how a worried husband would act. Maybe they got into a heated argument that turned physical. Charlotte died from her injuries and Paul with a friend or family member hid the body. However, Charlotte's mom did not seem squeaky clean either. Why would she runaway with her own granddaughter? Several people have asked why she took the daughter but not the son. It could have been a matter of convience, maybe she never got the opportunity to take both children. Maybe she felt closer to her granddaughter and thought her grandson was too much like her soninlaw? So many suspicious people in this case.

If her husband isn't guilty, he is really really stupid, because the actions he took after her disappearance make him look VERY suspicious. This is not how a worried husband would act. Maybe they got into a heated argument that turned physical. Charlotte died from her injuries and Paul with a friend or family member hid the body. However, Charlotte's mom did not seem squeaky clean either. Why would she runaway with her own granddaughter? Several people have asked why she took the daughter but not the son. It could have been a matter of convience, maybe she never got the opportunity to take both children. Maybe she felt closer to her granddaughter and thought her grandson was too much like her soninlaw? So many suspicious people in this case.

As I recall Charlotte's daughter was listed as a "missing person" with Charlotte's mother listed as the "kidnapper." However it appears they are both now alive and living in the same general area as Paul. There was reference to a possible Witness Protection Program scenario or something similar but I don't remember the whole story.

How old would her daughter be now? Has anyone heard from her since her disappearance?

I found an article (unable to copy and paste) where Paul Pollis remarried and moved away. He and wife number 2 were arrested for money laundering and embezzling a million and a half from a dialysis center.

He must have divorced Charlotte while she was missing - and this does not prove anything. If my husband went missing and we had two tiny children it would be appropriate legal advice to divorce him.....if something happened to ME then then custody would be less of a hassle. Not saying it is right or wrong, just saying it does happen and does not mean Paul is guilty.

Having said that....Paul is certainly a man of questionable character.

I doubt this one will ever be solved.

Just watched the episode on youtube and based on what was shown there is not a lot of direct evidence to convict Paul. His mom cleaned the floor afterwards. Charlotte's family said a lot of stuff that could no be verified through a third party. Paul is even more unlikeable years later and there is still no evidence of Charlotte.


The big thing to me was: Paul came home from his errands and Charlotte as gone. His wife has been to the hospital the night before and now she is gone? How about a note? How a call to her mom to see if she is there?

I highly doubt the runaway theory. I can't see that of any loving mother. Now there is a possibility that she considered running and taking the kids and Paul found out...

Yes I just never bought the "runaway mom" theory and again, as a mom, that would be SO hurtful. "Your mom ran away from YOU!"

I am on the fence. I am inclined to believe that Paul killed her but there is not enough evidence (as shown on UM) to support this and I am not sure how Paul could have gotten rid of Charlotte's body alone.

In addition to Charlotte not wanting to abandon her children, the other main reason I do not buy into the running away theory at all is because she had just returned from the hospital and was still suffering from an acute ear infection. This strikes me as the absolute worst time for someone to suddenly decide to run off and start a new life.

In addition to Charlotte not wanting to abandon her children, the other main reason I do not buy into the running away theory at all is because she had just returned from the hospital and was still suffering from an acute ear infection. This strikes me as the absolute worst time for someone to suddenly decide to run off and start a new life.

Exactly - and that is one of the few things that is verifiable in this case. She WAS at the hospital - there are records to prove this. Paul's actions are not so verifiable in this case.

I saw that giant cheeseburger in this episode and when you look close you can see the handle on the bucket. But it is funny when you first see it....you think that is one HUGE hamburger!

And Charlotte's sister seeing footprints in the snow? Give me a break. Maybe, maybe not...but footprints in the snow leading to the shed are hardly evidence. "They were the size of Paul's feet. And I think the other pair were the size of his dad's shoes." Give me a break.

I sound like I am defending Paul......I am not. He is creepy and annoying and I wouldn't trust him to baby sit my dog, but there is not enough evidence to convict him, at least not from what we haev seen here. This one may go unsolved.

I sound like I am defending Paul......I am not. He is creepy and annoying and I wouldn't trust him to baby sit my dog, but there is not enough evidence to convict him, at least not from what we haev seen here. This one may go unsolved.

Yes, while I still believe Paul is guilty, I'm not as 100 % sure as I used to be. There have been a lot of valid points brought up on this board (especially in the post by TheCars1986) that create a lot of reasonable doubt about whether Paul could have committed this crime and I'm sure any competent attorney would use these points to get him acquitted if he was charged.

While there are plenty of holes in the scenario that Paul could have killed Charlotte and disposed of her body during that limited time frame, I still think it's the most plausible theory out there and far more likely than some random stranger abducting an ill 300-pound woman from her house. Until evidence surfaces suggesting otherwise, I will still continue to believe that Paul was responsible.

The trip to the hospital is one reason why I lean towards doubting Paul's guilt. He was the one who took her to the hospital late that night, and by all accounts nothing was amiss when they returned. If Charlotte got off the phone with her mother that night and presumeably went to bed, what possibly could have transpired between the time she got off the phone with her mother and went to bed in which Paul would have killed her? If he's guilty, this obviously wasn't a planned murder since he took her to the hospital. But I don't see how an event that would have happened in a time span that seems no later than 5 minutes (Charlotte had the ear infection so I'm assuming that after getting off the phone at 1 in the morning the first thing she'd want to do was get some rest) would have triggered Paul into murdering his wife.

What sets this apart from the other missing wife/suspicious husband cases on UM is that the wife's family is so peculiar that you wouldn't be overly surprised if it turned out they were responsible for the disappearance. I don't think they would have intentionally murdered Charlotte, but I could see a very heated argument causing her to have a fatal accident that they needed to cover up.

I know the Nagi family have never been considered suspects in this case, but I do wonder if their whereabouts on the day Charlotte disappeared have been accounted for. I mean if Mrs. Nagi kept calling the house every ten minutes that morning like she claimed and was so frantic that no one was answering, why did she never go over to the house to check on Charlotte personally? And how come she wouldn't make any attempts to call the house between when Paul supposedly returned home at 4:00 and when he finally called them that night to report her missing? It just seems strange that a woman as obsessive as her would be able to wait that long before she finally went over there.

This episode was just on and my son looks at Paul Pollis and says, "Wow...he looks creepy!"

Yes, ideed!

Another thing I don't get is the shed obsession. If Paul allegedly stuffed his wife into the trunk of his car via garbage bags at around 11am when his neighbour passed by, then what's the relevancy of the shed that evening when all of his wife's family are there?

I'll side with a growing number here and say while I ultimately think he's guilty, I don't think it's as open-and-shut as I once did. While any of the pieces of circumstantial evidence would probably not be very damning on their own, I think all of them combined are too much to deny.

let me first say, i DO think he did this, but the problem is the evidence in this case. i mean, there's not much to go on. my best guess is he killed her and had help from his mom and dad to hide the body, now with that said, i do think there are some mis-conseptions and possibly even lies in this case, but one lie that cant be disputed is the cleaning of the house which even the police found odd and his excuse just came off as totally arrogant, now with that said, i do think Charlotte's mom isnt helping and coaching the grand-daughter isnt good either and yes, i think she was coached.

Didn't Charlotte's mother take the daughter and disappear for a few years?

Didn't Charlotte's mother take the daughter and disappear for a few years?

I think Charlotte's mother did in fact kidnap her granddaughter and went into hiding for years before resurfacing. No word on what happened to Paul and Charlotte's son however. Unfortunately, until Charlotte's body is located this is still considered a "missing persons" case.

I didn't read every single post post, so not sure if it's been said: the 2 kids have a Facebook. Layla talks about moving a lot and being scared. Wasn't their grandma named Jane? They have her listed as Grandmother....unless it's some odd joke. The girl, Layla, has her mother maiden name Nagi and "Pollis" written like (Pollis)

let me first say, i DO think he did this, but the problem is the evidence in this case. i mean, there's not much to go on. my best guess is he killed her and had help from his mom and dad to hide the body, now with that said, i do think there are some mis-conseptions and possibly even lies in this case, but one lie that cant be disputed is the cleaning of the house which even the police found odd and his excuse just came off as totally arrogant, now with that said, i do think Charlotte's mom isnt helping and coaching the grand-daughter isnt good either and yes, i think she was coached.

My take exactly.

I think Charlotte's mother did in fact kidnap her granddaughter and went into hiding for years before resurfacing. No word on what happened to Paul and Charlotte's son however. Unfortunately, until Charlotte's body is located this is still considered a "missing persons" case.
yep and the reason is there's no evidence of her even being hurt. just suspicious behavior from Paul and family. I still stand on what I wrote above as what might've happened.

oh ye ole little intelligence,no the comments made the other day came from someone just speaking their mind.Not me.To so agressively respond and in such a venomous manner just reinforces my feelings of how very few people had ever been adult enough to come and speak with me with any objectivity at all.I give no other feelings towards that person who defended me other than to say he or she just spoke their mind.And you,being the haters,terribly criticize this person for thier point of view. None of you will truly ever know who or what I am,nor do you deserve to.To respond with the comment just shows your lack of education ,compassion, and fairness to the laws and rights established to the people of this country and it makes almost feel sorry for you,all of you.Walk amile in my shoes ,for that matter 13 years now.the shame is that those who know not ,know not they know not.And will continue to bash my name,lie and do to me thats your choice but so biased. Your ignorance makes me sad and sorry for your one sided pt. of view.I'll not apologize for something i didnt do.EVER!!!From my standpoint all of you are terribly hurt and I thank you for the [however misguided ] concern,but maybe keep some of your feelings to yourselves. Paul PollisWow, I never saw the posts from this user before. This board continues to surprise me.

It's old news but news to me, Paul Pollis's new wife was jailed for 25 years for money laundering. Paul was only given a light sentence for his co-opertation in the case. The 1.6 million was embezzled from a dialysis clinic by the both of them. He certainly is a shady, lying good for nothing deadbeat.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pollis_charlotte.html

Well that is nice to know he co-operated in at least one case lol

Paul is guilty.

He had the means, motive, and opportunity. He is the last person known to be with Charlotte. He has zero alibi for the time she went missing and his story of what he did that day were contradicted by neighbors. Also, not one person could verify seeing him on his errands with his children.
There has only been a handful of UM cases where it was absolutely obvious who did it and this was one of them.

Also, in his interview Paul does not give clear and concise answers to questions. His answer to his account of his day being contradicted by others as "I would never abandon my children, not for a minute." Even though, nobody ever said he abandons his children. If you've ever seen expects analyze interviews with suspects who are later proven to be guilty, they do a lot of that.
Also, heated arguments can happen within minutes. So, the fact that everything seemed fine when she got home from the hospital and when she called her mother isn't surprising at all. In fact, some of the most intense arguments i personally have ever had started over something pretty mundane.
I don't think it was planned. He lost control and either hurt her bad enough that he knew he would be in serious trouble and panicked so he killed her. It also just takes a few correct blows to the head to cause death so either way, I believe he lost his temper.
It's pretty obvious based on witness statements he spent the next day cleaning up and disposing of the evidence. I think certain members of his family helped him after the fact in regards to disposing of the body, cleaning and watching the children.
Over the years, Paul has since threatened a sheriff by showing up to his house with a gun. He and his next wife were involved in embezzlement (yes I know he cooperated to reduce his own charges). Tigers don't change their strips. His anti-social personality is clearly shown by utterly lacking any respect for laws or authority, consistently engaging in criminal activity over the years, impulsive, manipulative and lacking any remorse or empathy for the people he affects. (including his own children)
Yes, Charlotte's family may be a little eccentric (like the mother calling 15 times a day) Although I'm 27 and my mom still texts me a few times daily. This was obviously before texting but I've known people who were that attached to their parents even as adults. We all have eccentric people or behaviors in our families but her family was never considered suspect.

It has been 20 years last month. I think its safe to say she didn't just decide on the morning of March 12th, 1994 ,recovering from an ear infection, to just up and leave without anything she owned. So, that leaves Paul or a stranger who broke in while Paul was out running all these "errands." This stranger somehow managed to assault and carry out a 300 pound woman who would've been putting up a fight. Yet, not a trace of a struggle was found and according the police, the house was abnormally clean and neat. Even according to Paul when he got home nothing seemed out of place. That scenario is so ridiculous and not probable. Its easier to believe she was abducted by aliens.

Between all that, the blood in the trunk (how many people have noticeable blood stains in their trunk that's human?) Yes, I know someone could've cut their hand blah blah blah but but how many times have you ran across that? Paul's game playing with the authorities (first agreeing to a polygraph than disappearing for a few weeks.)

Honestly, I think the note he left when he dropped from site for a few weeks speaks volumes. He said "I would never hurt my wife intentionally." I think the fact that he added intentionally is telling.

I have no doubt that if Charlotte's body was found, Paul would be arrested. I understand why its obviously better to have a body but after all these years, it's pretty obvious shes deceased and given all the circumstantial evidence, I think at some point he needs to be charged.

wfmj
more trouble for husband of missing howland woman

Posted: Aug 05, 2014 2:39 PM EDT
Updated: Aug 11, 2014 5:24 PM EDT

Paul Pollis
WARREN, Ohio -
A Howland man, who's wife went missing 20 years ago and has had a series of run-ins with the law, is in trouble again.

Paul Pollis was arrested Friday and charged with felony drug possession. The 48-year-old was pulled over for an expired license plate tag and was found in possession of suspected crack cocaine.

He remains free on $3,500 bond.

In 2009, Pollis was sentenced to jail for 18 months after testing positive for cocaine and failing to report to his probation officer.

In 2005, Pollis was placed on probation for carrying a concealed weapon. His wife, Charlotte Nagy Pollis has been missing from her Girard home since 1994.

Thanks for the news, Lily59. I found the original link to that story, which features a current mug shot of Paul. To say he has not aged well would be an understatement. The guy now looks like a hardened criminal:
http://www.wfmj.com/story/26203070/more-trouble-for-husband-of-missing-howland-woman

I'd really be interested know if Paul ever had any run-ins with the law before Charlotte's disappearance. Guilty or not, he seems to have been on a non-stop spiral of self-destruction ever since.

Thanks for the news, Lily59. I found the original link to that story, which features a current mug shot of Paul. To say he has not aged well would be an understatement. The guy now looks like a hardened criminal:
http://www.wfmj.com/story/26203070/more-trouble-for-husband-of-missing-howland-woman

I'd really be interested know if Paul ever had any run-ins with the law before Charlotte's disappearance. Guilty or not, he seems to have been on a non-stop spiral of self-destruction ever since.

Wow that looks nothing like him!

By all accounts, I don't think Pollis had any run-ins with the law beforehand, since everyone was in agreement that their marriage was happy and featured no violence, or any hints of dissolution. So I could take his downward spiral since Charlotte's disappearance two ways: either the guilt is eating him alive, and this is the only way to deal with it, or he turned to drugs because everyone in the town had him branded as a wife killer.

By all accounts, I don't think Pollis had any run-ins with the law beforehand, since everyone was in agreement that their marriage was happy and featured no violence, or any hints of dissolution. So I could take his downward spiral since Charlotte's disappearance two ways: either the guilt is eating him alive, and this is the only way to deal with it, or he turned to drugs because everyone in the town had him branded as a wife killer.

I completely agree. I never had much sympathy for the guy, but if he truly is innocent, then Paul's story is a pretty damn tragic one. After his wife disappears and he gets branded as a murderer, he then has to experience his daughter going missing for a few years after she is abducted by her grandparents. In the face of something like this, it's perfectly plausible that an otherwise law-abiding person would turn to a life of drugs and crime.

But of course, if he is guilty, then karma really got him good.

This must be a first in the history of the world: A crack addict who likes to live in a clean house. :D

This must be a first in the history of the world: A crack addict who likes to live in a clean house. :D

Hahaha.... :lol:

I'm guessing when they got married, Paul didn't carry Charlotte over the threshold.

Completely tasteless.

This must be a first in the history of the world: A crack addict who likes to live in a clean house. :D

I work pretty closely with Child Protective Services. Surprisingly... some crack addicts DO have clean houses. I was surprised at that myself.

Yes it was, I apologize. I guess I'm having a bad day.

No problem, we all have bad days.

With regards to Charlotte, I just can't see how Paul could have done this without an accomplice. I know it was theorized that his father had helped him somehow, but there was no evidence of this implied in the segment. Plus I've always been a little skeptical of the fact that a father would have no issue helping his son hide his dead wife's body when by all accounts the families got along and that the Pollis marriage was a happy one.

No problem, we all have bad days.

With regards to Charlotte, I just can't see how Paul could have done this without an accomplice. I know it was theorized that his father had helped him somehow, but there was no evidence of this implied in the segment. Plus I've always been a little skeptical of the fact that a father would have no issue helping his son hide his dead wife's body when by all accounts the families got along and that the Pollis marriage was a happy one.


I know of no one who has suggested his father helped. Its clear his mom helped, that should be crystal to anyone who has seen the segment.

Paul committed the crime and told his mom, she helped out.

Not sure the confusion here