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TVFactFan 12-15-2005, 11:53 PM He keep saying the same thing over and over again. trump asked him why should u work for me and Randall keeps saying-"Because I was undefeated as Project Manager and my academic Background"
It would be nice if Randall went into detail as to WHY he was 3-0 as Project Manager instead of just constantly saying-"I WAS UNDEFEATED"
Decision will be made in 3 min-lol I can feel rebecca winning
vashti1999 12-16-2005, 12:16 AM It was Randal, and deservedly so.
Brent88 12-16-2005, 12:37 AM party:
BUT, I really hated that Trump, 30 seconds after telling Randal he's hired, puts him on the spot and asks him whether he wants Rebecca hired too. If Trump wanted her hired, then he should have hired both with no discussion. Now he's the bad guy...
:wallbang :mad: :angryfire
HuntingtonM15 12-16-2005, 12:40 AM I can't believe Trump let him decide. That was ridiculous. I hope he ends up hiring her, anyway.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 12-16-2005, 01:22 AM Yay!! :woohoo: I agree with having Trump have him decide was a bad idea. On one side it is, like Randall said called the Apprentice- SINGLE, and it is a competive show. You dont go on to tie, you go in to win and beat everyone, thats the whole point. On the other hand it makes Randall look like a 'poor sport' and 'selfish' because he didnt want her hired. I personally am glad he said no for my first reasonings and I think its bull that his soul answer changed Trumps final decision. Plus, Randall was saying earlier that Rebecca would not be able to handle it so its not like he said she could handle it and then be a poor sport and said no- he did stick to his original word. I loved Rebecca too, but I got pretty sick of the whole broken ankle thing. Yah she had a broken ankle and it was a bitch to deal with especially in that situation but they made her out to be some sort of 'super hero' for staying in the game. I congratulate her for sticking through it, but its not the greatest ordeal to go through. I think Randall dealing with his grandmothers death at the time was a bit more difficult emotionally and mentally for the game.
:rofl: And what was with that blonde chick totally dissing Rebecca?! Daaamn.
Brent88 12-16-2005, 01:26 AM :rofl: And what was with that blonde chick totally dissing Rebecca?! Daaamn.
That was Alla... I was expecting something like that and freaking loved it. I still don't understand what the fascination is with Rebecca, but whatever.
I could NOT believe Markus was at the show but did NOT speak!!! It is truly the end... :lol: :p
Brian Damage 12-16-2005, 01:28 AM That was cold blooded by Randal. I understand this was a competition, but they both wanted to work on different projects. What would have been the big deal?
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 12-16-2005, 01:44 AM That was Alla... I was expecting something like that and freaking loved it. I still don't understand what the fascination is with Rebecca, but whatever.
I could NOT believe Markus was at the show but did NOT speak!!! It is truly the end... :lol: :p
Yah thats her name- I never liked her! Ahh I agree. I love[d] Marcus. And Adam. Whats up with none of them hardly talking? UGH. They didnt even point out the past Apprentices really lol.
vashti1999 12-16-2005, 02:15 AM Trump should have never put Randal in the position to inquire if Trump should hire them both. Trump would end up looking really really bad if he offered Rebecca a position also, but regardless, just by bringing it up when he hasn't done that in the past makes him look bad. Kwame was just as qualified as Bill was on the first Apprentice. They were both strong, why not hire Kwame too? How come Randal being as strong as he was wasn't enough that Trump wouldn't find it necessary to suggest hiring Rebecca too?? I wonder...
GoldenFamilyTies 12-16-2005, 02:45 AM A lot of Apprentice fans seem to have completely turned on Randal by reading the various Apprentice boards, and I also just read an article from MSNBC where the writer lashes out at Randal as well.
And yes, I thought his behavior was pretty self-righteous as well, because Rebecca would not have been hired as an apprentice, she just would have gotten a different job.
And Alla is completely delusional. She can't even give basic credit where credit is due. Nope, she has to be the biggest sore loser I've seen on TV in a long, long time.
vashti1999 12-16-2005, 08:59 AM A lot of Apprentice fans seem to have completely turned on Randal by reading the various Apprentice boards, and I also just read an article from MSNBC where the writer lashes out at Randal as well.
And yes, I thought his behavior was pretty self-righteous as well, because Rebecca would not have been hired as an apprentice, she just would have gotten a different job.
I just watched it again and I don't see how he was being self-righteous. All he did was state the fact that it's the Apprentice, not the Apprenti (plural). If Trump thought they were both good enough to be hired, he should have said "Rebecca and Randal you're both hired." He said "Rebecca, you're outstanding. Randal, you're hired." That should have been the end of it. There's nothing cold blooded or self righteous about anything Randal did. What was the point of the whole competition if they're fighting to be the Apprentice and then at the end say it's okay that they both get hired?
TVFactFan 12-16-2005, 10:26 AM I just watched it again and I don't see how he was being self-righteous. All he did was state the fact that it's the Apprentice, not the Apprenti (plural). If Trump thought they were both good enough to be hired, he should have said "Rebecca and Randal you're both hired." He said "Rebecca, you're outstanding. Randal, you're hired." That should have been the end of it. There's nothing cold blooded or self righteous about anything Randal did. What was the point of the whole competition if they're fighting to be the Apprentice and then at the end say it's okay that they both get hired?
My mouth was wide open when he asked randall that-lol
vashti1999 12-16-2005, 11:06 AM My mouth was wide open when he asked randall that-lol
I didn't expect him to ask Randal, but I'm not surprised Trump considered hiring Rebecca too. Just because there have already been surprises, like firing four people at once, I wasn't surprised he wanted to offer something to Rebecca too.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 12-16-2005, 11:31 AM I just watched it again and I don't see how he was being self-righteous. All he did was state the fact that it's the Apprentice, not the Apprenti (plural). If Trump thought they were both good enough to be hired, he should have said "Rebecca and Randal you're both hired." He said "Rebecca, you're outstanding. Randal, you're hired." That should have been the end of it. There's nothing cold blooded or self righteous about anything Randal did. What was the point of the whole competition if they're fighting to be the Apprentice and then at the end say it's okay that they both get hired?
Agree with you 100%. Randal is now looking like 'the bad guy' because of something Trump asked him. If Trump wanted Rebecca he shouldve just hired her as well. And agreed about Kwame too-- he was just as good! I didnt like the attitudes of Randal and Rebecca in the end- they were getting very cut throat and making eachother look bad, but thats what you gotta do to win.
Brent88 12-16-2005, 12:01 PM Trump should have never put Randal in the position to inquire if Trump should hire them both. Trump would end up looking really really bad if he offered Rebecca a position also, but regardless, just by bringing it up when he hasn't done that in the past makes him look bad. Kwame was just as qualified as Bill was on the first Apprentice. They were both strong, why not hire Kwame too? How come Randal being as strong as he was wasn't enough that Trump wouldn't find it necessary to suggest hiring Rebecca too?? I wonder...
:yeahthat
If he really wanted to hire Rebecca(and again... I don't see what has made her so special), then he should have hired them both and not had a discussion. Instead, he put Randal on the spot, making him look bad, and probably turned off more people who were watching the show(and that's the last thing he needs right now).
EmoJoe 12-16-2005, 04:40 PM That was cold blooded by Randal. I understand this was a competition, but they both wanted to work on different projects. What would have been the big deal?
Seriously, what a selfish a-hole. He's gone from being tied for my favorite this season to my least favorite winner yet. If I were Trump, I would have fired Randal after he said that.
And WTF? I honestly think Randal has changed since the final task filmed in May/June/July (whenever it was filmed...), because he certlanily wasnt the Randal I knew during the show. Did you see the way he full out bashed Rebecca?
EmoJoe 12-16-2005, 04:45 PM I didnt really like the fact that Donald acknolaged Rebecca's ankle but not Randal's grandmother though. And yeah dumb descion on Trump's part. Is he that indesisive? :lol:
But even though Randal annoyed me, to the people who are saying LOLZ REBECCA SUX. Come on. You have to admit they were easily the best two of the season (in fact, they were probably better then anyone in the past 2 seasons too, with MAYBE the exception of Kelly)
Anyway yeah. This season had some real dumb people (Markus, Alla, Jennifer M), but I still think this might be one of the best seasons yet.
And a little hard on Toral, arent we, Trump? I dont get what she did was so bad anyway.
I have a feeling he'll wind up hiring Rebecca sometime down the road anyway. Doesnt he already have some past fired contestants doing things for him?
TVFactFan 12-16-2005, 05:15 PM Seriously, what a selfish a-hole. He's gone from being tied for my favorite this season to my least favorite winner yet. If I were Trump, I would have fired Randal after he said that.
And WTF? I honestly think Randal has changed since the final task filmed in May/June/July (whenever it was filmed...), because he certlanily wasnt the Randal I knew during the show. Did you see the way he full out bashed Rebecca?
Like Randall said, It's the Apprentice, not Apprentied-LOL Rebecca has to suck it up and move on. that's life,she lost. I would have said no too
EmoJoe 12-16-2005, 06:05 PM Like Randall said, It's the Apprentice, not Apprentied-LOL Rebecca has to suck it up and move on. that's life,she lost. I would have said no too
Rebecca has to suck it up? -_- What did she ever say?
Anyway, Randal would still be The Apprentice, Rebecca would just be working for Donald too. They wouldnt even be working in the same city. Randal was just afraid that he would have to share the spotlight, but now he's being looked down on anyway.
Kazza 12-16-2005, 06:46 PM It turns out that Trump's decision backfired big time. I just learned that Rebecca was hired by Yahoo and might end up better off than Randal after all.
TVFactFan 12-16-2005, 07:10 PM Rebecca has to suck it up? -_- What did she ever say?
Anyway, Randal would still be The Apprentice, Rebecca would just be working for Donald too. They wouldnt even be working in the same city. Randal was just afraid that he would have to share the spotlight, but now he's being looked down on anyway.
It wasn't only supposed to be ONE WINNER and that was RANDALL, the end
Brian Damage 12-16-2005, 07:22 PM Where in the rules does it say there only has to be one winner? This whole season Trump has been doing some off the wall wacky stuff. Yeah, yeah I know it says Apprentice not Apprenti, but like I said before, who would it have hurt if she was hired? That was just plain ego on Randal's part. I know vashti was intimating a hint of race in this whole thing, which I don't buy at all. I was rooting for Kwame to win that season, but even I knew Bill was the clear cut choice. This season was alot closer than previous seasons and you could tell that Trump was really impressed with Rebecca.
TVFactFan 12-16-2005, 07:28 PM Where in the rules does it say there only has to be one winner? This whole season Trump has been doing some off the wall wacky stuff. Yeah, yeah I know it says Apprentice not Apprenti, but like I said before, who would it have hurt if she was hired? That was just plain ego on Randal's part. I know vashti was intimating a hint of race in this whole thing, which I don't buy at all. I was rooting for Kwame to win that season, but even I knew Bill was the clear cut choice. This season was alot closer than previous seasons and you could tell that Trump was really impressed with Rebecca.
It does seem like some kind of hidden racism was behind Trump's Statement because he never said anything like that in the previous Apprentice Finales. So why say it now?
Brian Damage 12-16-2005, 07:33 PM I just don't buy the racism, but then again, I'm not Donald Trump.
TVFactFan 12-16-2005, 07:38 PM I just don't buy the racism, but then again, I'm not Donald Trump.
I guess it looks like that because Kwame wasn't offered a job when he lost in 2003 to Bill
EmoJoe 12-17-2005, 12:31 AM Where in the rules does it say there only has to be one winner? This whole season Trump has been doing some off the wall wacky stuff. Yeah, yeah I know it says Apprentice not Apprenti, but like I said before, who would it have hurt if she was hired? That was just plain ego on Randal's part. I know vashti was intimating a hint of race in this whole thing, which I don't buy at all. I was rooting for Kwame to win that season, but even I knew Bill was the clear cut choice. This season was alot closer than previous seasons and you could tell that Trump was really impressed with Rebecca.
Exactly. Originaly only one person was supposed to fired each episode, but he fired 2. He bent the rules other times, why not now?
And seriously. THIS ISNT A FREAKIN RACE ISSUE.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 12-17-2005, 01:18 AM Seriously, what a selfish a-hole. He's gone from being tied for my favorite this season to my least favorite winner yet. If I were Trump, I would have fired Randal after he said that.
And WTF? I honestly think Randal has changed since the final task filmed in May/June/July (whenever it was filmed...), because he certlanily wasnt the Randal I knew during the show. Did you see the way he full out bashed Rebecca?
Randall bushed her because he wanted to win. They were competing, and in the end it was cut throat. Donald had already said he hadnt made a decision yet, so they were both doing anything and everything to get their point across. I dont like how Randall acted in the end too, but at times like that you do get desperate. If you want something that bad, youll stop at nothing to get it.
I thought it was crappy for Trump to do that to Randal. Especialy after Randal spoke and Trump then said that he might have been convinced to hire Rebecca. I thought about what George said to Rebecca about who was running the event her or Yahoo. I was thinking the same thing about Trump, who's show is it yours or Randall's? If you want to hire Rebecca then hire her. It's not like Trump really needed Randall's permission.
vashti1999 12-17-2005, 03:26 AM Exactly. Originaly only one person was supposed to fired each episode, but he fired 2. He bent the rules other times, why not now?
Because the show isn't about how many people are fired each week, it's about which ONE out of a group of 16 will be the last one standing and become the Apprentice, that's why not now. If it was Rebecca instead of Randal, I'd say the same thing, just like in season one. Kwame was a strong candidate but Bill won. No offer for Kwame. And I was fine with that, accepted it and moved on. Trump shouldn't have made the offer here.
And seriously. THIS ISNT A FREAKIN RACE ISSUE.
EmoJoe 12-17-2005, 03:14 PM Because the show isn't about how many people are fired each week, it's about which ONE out of a group of 16 will be the last one standing and become the Apprentice, that's why not now. If it was Rebecca instead of Randal, I'd say the same thing, just like in season one. Kwame was a strong candidate but Bill won. No offer for Kwame. And I was fine with that, accepted it and moved on. Trump shouldn't have made the offer here.
No one ever said "only one person can win". And besides, its a group of 18, isnt it? Apparently they were both very strong if Trump was gonna hire both. If Rebecca was hired, Randal would still be "The Apprentice", Rebecca would just be an employee.
Brian Damage 12-17-2005, 03:17 PM No one ever said "only one person can win". And besides, its a group of 18, isnt it? Apparently they were both very strong if Trump was gonna hire both. If Rebecca was hired, Randal would still be "The Apprentice", Rebecca would just be an employee.
Agreed
TVFactFan 12-17-2005, 03:18 PM No one ever said "only one person can win". And besides, its a group of 18, isnt it? Apparently they were both very strong if Trump was gonna hire both. If Rebecca was hired, Randal would still be "The Apprentice", Rebecca would just be an employee.
Doesn't matter, Randall made the right decision.
Brian Damage 12-17-2005, 03:20 PM Doesn't matter, Randall made the right decision.
Why?
TVFactFan 12-17-2005, 03:22 PM Why?
Because one of them had to WIN and one them had to LOSE, not TIE. You could even see some of the fired Apprentices in the background telling randall to say no to Trump about Hiring Rebecca
EmoJoe 12-17-2005, 03:28 PM Because one of them had to WIN and one them had to LOSE, not TIE. You could even see some of the fired Apprentices in the background telling randall to say no to Trump about Hiring Rebecca
Yeah, the ones who held grudges against Rebecca.
Randal would still be a winner.
Brian Damage 12-17-2005, 03:31 PM Because one of them had to WIN and one them had to LOSE, not TIE. You could even see some of the fired Apprentices in the background telling randall to say no to Trump about Hiring Rebecca
Where does it say that?
TVFactFan 12-17-2005, 03:34 PM Where does it say that?
Look as hard as Randall fought to win, why did he need to share the spotlight with rebecca?
Brian Damage 12-17-2005, 03:35 PM What difference would it have made?
vashti1999 12-17-2005, 04:54 PM No one ever said "only one person can win".
Repeating myself, the whole point of the show is ONE PERSON BECOMING THE APPRENTICE. Who will win the "dream job of a lifetime." Who will succeed, who will fail, who will become the Apprentice? There's nothing in there that suggests more than one person can win.
And besides, its a group of 18, isnt it?
16 or 18, who cares? That wasn't the point of my statement.
Apparently they were both very strong if Trump was gonna hire both. If Rebecca was hired, Randal would still be "The Apprentice", Rebecca would just be an employee.
If that's the case, let Randal have his moment in the spotlight. You want to offer Rebecca a position with your company too, do it off the air and don't ask Randal his opinion 60 seconds after you just declared him the apprentice. Point blank, it wasn't the right thing to do.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 12-17-2005, 06:17 PM No one ever said "only one person can win". And besides, its a group of 18, isnt it? Apparently they were both very strong if Trump was gonna hire both. If Rebecca was hired, Randal would still be "The Apprentice", Rebecca would just be an employee.
But then whats the point of even trying to win? "Ohh I was a pretty strong player but got fired top 3, maybe Trump will hire me anyways!" You play to win, and while the offer was nice, it was just out of place for Donald to ask Randal his opinion. Randal had just won and was ecstatic, screaming and got right up out of his chair. If Trump wanted advice on Rebecca, he shouldve asked George and Carolyn instead.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 12-17-2005, 06:21 PM Look as hard as Randall fought to win, why did he need to share the spotlight with rebecca?
Word. I liked Rebecca too and if she had won, Id feel the same way. And Im sure she would feel the same way Randal did after winning. You put in a lot of work into making it and you want to relish in the moment.
EmoJoe 12-17-2005, 08:48 PM Im not saying that Trump was right, im just saying Randal wasnt right, whether it was before or after the show, he probably wouldve said no anyways.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 12-18-2005, 12:03 AM Im not saying that Trump was right, im just saying Randal wasnt right, whether it was before or after the show, he probably wouldve said no anyways.
Oh Im sure he wouldve said no afterwards too, but he probably wouldve said it in a better manner since he wouldnt have that pressure of being on tv and just winning on his back.
felicitylen 12-21-2005, 12:26 PM I'm wondering if Rebecca would have won, and Trump asked her the samething about hiring Randall, and she said no as well, would it be a big deal as it is now? Just curious...
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