View Full Version : Harry wrote a lot more eps than I thought...


McFly121
12-03-2005, 02:22 AM
Always did a great job, like tonight's he he kind of did an essay on the unknown. Death and mental illness and when our time comes. Harry seems like a pretty spiritual guy.

He co-wrote some other good ones like when Christine's boss harrassed her and I want to say Mac Snacks, because he always knew how to write great Dan sub-plots where he'd be chasing after some girl.

nitcrt1
12-03-2005, 03:20 PM
Harry Anderson is a very intelligent and very talented individual. He did a lot of directing too. From interviews I've seen with some cast members, they had a lot of respect for him. Extras on the show also had great things to say about him. I agree that he's a great writer and he had a very keen sense of the show. One of the things cast members loved about working on "Night Court" was the freedom to provide creative input. They could question a scene or a line and they were allowed to play around with it. They could also write episodes, direct, etc.

Getting back to Harry though. I think that he was never given the credit he really deserved. I think many people, especially critics, took his presence for granted. I don't think that the show could have been done without him. He truly was the quarterback of that team. He was "absent" from a whole episode in season nine and to me his absence was very obvious. You knew something was lacking in the episode and it was his presence. I think he was quietly on the sidelines while John's character stole the spotlight. This was something that never bothered Harry because Harry had a great deal of respect for John and had said that he learned the art of acting from him. Also, from what I understand, Harry and John are close friends to this day. I absolutely think John is very talented, but I also think Harry is very talented in many ways too.

McFly121
12-04-2005, 07:49 PM
Yeah I'd say Harry was one of the more underrated actors who used to be a comic/magician. He seemed genuine when trying to help a character on the show.

True, Dan couldn't have carried the show. Most of his great stories were throwaway sub-plots that would've lacked seriousness. Harry and the others were given the emotional stuff while Dan and his lifestyle were comic relief.

nitcrt1
12-04-2005, 09:19 PM
I always thought he was underrated. Maybe it was because no one really saw him as an actor. They just saw him as magician/comedian. In reality, I thought that Harry was a natural when it came to acting. I mean, he must have been doing something right to be nominated three times for best actor in a comedy series. He had tough competition those years. I at least would have liked to have seen him win once. He also did some of the craziest things on that show...like being propelled through the cafeteria by a fire extinguisher strapped to his back and roller skates on his feet. I still don't know how he pulled that off. I always wondered how the cast reacted when they saw him do that stunt for the first time. The audience sure ate it up.

I love Dan Feilding too. That character is an absolute classic, but I don't think that character could have carried the show either. One of the great things about Harry's character is that he always brought Dan back to reality. Also, both characeters were funny together. Harry though was like the voice of reason for everyone. He was also given the duty of problem solver. Let's think about this for a second. Could you see Dan giving Christine advice on her problems with Tony or comforting Bull over his "Bully The Dragon Story?" You could probably see it but not without some smart aleck comment.

judgestone
12-12-2005, 08:58 PM
Yes Harry is very good writer and directors of what I have seen the show.I hope that I can see him soon on tv. I miss him on tv very much.

nitcrt1
12-13-2005, 01:46 PM
Yes Harry is very good writer and directors of what I have seen the show.I hope that I can see him soon on tv. I miss him on tv very much.


Harry Anderson really is talented in many areas. However, his first love is magic and entertaining audiences with it. Therefore, don't count on him returning to TV. From what I understand, the California life was not for him. He's quite content now having his shop and his night club in New Orleans in spite of the recent events concerning Hurricane Katrina. I have to say that I miss him on TV too. He actually left television at the height of his career. Because of his personality both on and off screen, critics praised him. He was a great television actor and very natural. He also had a likability factor with audiences, but He was tired of TV. Even though it's highly unlikely, I'd still like to see him play Judge Harry T. Stone one last time in a reunion movie to clean up the loose ends left by the series finale.

ekkostar
12-13-2005, 08:44 PM
He co-wrote some other good ones like when Christine's boss harrassed her and I want to say Mac Snacks, because he always knew how to write great Dan sub-plots where he'd be chasing after some girl.

I thought that 'Attack of the Mac Snacks' was excruciating to get through. For some reason all the characters were a more over-the-top than usual.

I was really surprised by last night's episode 'Alone Again, Naturally'. Dan actually saying that he was horny and then saying he was gay after, not to mention that he actually said "condom". It shows that in the 1990s, you could get away with a lot more on network TV than you could in the 1980s. I actually thought Dan being direct about his sexual needs kind of took away from what made his character so great: double entendres. In an earlier season, Dan would allude to something deliciously kinky and my reaction wouldn't be so much as a laugh as it was a squeal. Now watching the later episodes, I get little chuckles out of the jokes, but the humor isn't as strong, it's too modern. I'll roll my eyes if I hear Dan, Harry, Bull or any of the other characters say a word like "sucks" in one of these last episodes.

Now that I've seen all the seasons, I have to say the strongest are all of the 1980s seasons up until the 1989-1990 season. I think this show kind of suffered from whatever Roseanne suffered from in later seasons.

Many will disagree with me and many around here seem to love the last three seasons.

nitcrt1
12-13-2005, 09:27 PM
I thought the concept for "Attack of the Mac Snacks" was good. I thought the addition of Christine's Uncle Floyd was cruddy though. He was a dull character. Harry has written better episodes though.

As for your observations on Dan, Dan had used the terms "horny" and "gay" in episodes prior to the nineties. However, I'd have to think about "condom". I want to say that I don't think I heard him say it before this episode. The others have been used though. I do agree that Dan's double entendres did enhance his character. That's one of the great things about "Night Court." As far as sexual exploits are concerned, it was more humorous hearing about them rather than seeing them like you do on today's shows. Unfortunately, after Reinhold Weege left, the show did lose its charm and did become more modern and grown-up. This was a complete detraction from what the show had been. As far as the last three seasons were concerned, here's how I honestly felt. Season seven had its moments mostly due to the input given by Reinhold Weege before he left. ( He just served as a consultant for this season. Then, he left for the last two.) Season eight had its moments but I wasn't crazy about the addition of Margaret Turner. Dan turning into a "humanitarian" was a stupid idea and Harry "growing up" and tossing his Mel Torme picture in a drawer for Margaret's was so not his character. And Christine having a one night stand with a 24-year old artist...what the hell was up with that?!!! I didn't hate it though. The last season was by far the worst season ever in the history of the show! The characters were totally not what they used to be, storylines did not follow circumstances that happened during the show's nine year run and this put a wound into the continuity of the show, Harry becoming a professor to a bunch of reject students was stupid, the humor in the show departed and the series finale was a mess!!! Instead of going out with a bang, the show went out like a balloon losing air quickly and falling flat. So, I was not a great fan of the last three seasons...especially season nine.

You're right the seasons in the eighties were the best. Of course, they were good because Reinhold Weege was in the driver's seat.

judgestone
12-15-2005, 10:29 PM
I read one of Harry's interview journals saying that the all cast member was sooo mad at Richard Moll on 8th or 9th season for some reason It didnt say anything or no explaintion on why cast member was soo mad at Richard Moll on Harry's interview journal does anyone know why cast member was mad at Richard Moll during 8th or 9th season?

I guess that spoiled 9th season becasue of Richard. Also during 9th season Harry lost a lot of weight at that time that was fast. Well it doesnt matter what Harry look like today but I still like him the way he is just to be himself.

The only reason why NBC want to renewal 9th season is becasue of Seinfield and Night Court same day Wednesday during 8th season & the rating went up for a short time what else. Nbc ask the cast if they would to renewal for 9th season they agree to renewal then bang something happen with Richard Moll.

MikeLutton
12-20-2005, 04:48 AM
I read one of Harry's interview journals saying that the all cast member was sooo mad at Richard Moll on 8th or 9th season for some reason It didnt say anything or no explaintion on why cast member was soo mad at Richard Moll on Harry's interview journal does anyone know why cast member was mad at Richard Moll during 8th or 9th season?

I guess that spoiled 9th season becasue of Richard. Also during 9th season Harry lost a lot of weight at that time that was fast. Well it doesnt matter what Harry look like today but I still like him the way he is just to be himself.

The only reason why NBC want to renewal 9th season is becasue of Seinfield and Night Court same day Wednesday during 8th season & the rating went up for a short time what else. Nbc ask the cast if they would to renewal for 9th season they agree to renewal then bang something happen with Richard Moll.


one think always botherd me about Mr Moll how they always gave him stupid lines to and storylines worse i saw he had choice pick 123 from a game show like plan house or a car he picks a damm wig like how stupid is that omg i couldnt even watch that episode anymore he schould left the show r something i dont blame them for being mad at him.

hazlenut
12-26-2005, 07:53 PM
Somewhere along the way I missed this, why was the cast mad at Richard Moll? From what was said above, it sounds as if they were mad about Bull's lines being stupid? Is this right? Could someone please clarify this for me. Thanks!

rjb182
12-27-2005, 01:37 AM
Harry Anderson's one of my heroes... his character, especially from the early days of this show, is just one of the coolest ever. I think you can tell from his portrayal just how well he understood this show... a very underrated performer.

MikeLutton
12-27-2005, 03:05 AM
yeah Harry Anderson one of my heroes 2 very great actor i wonder where i could get copy of his Interview Journel someone metioned he got sounds real intresting to read. And i would really like to see a Night court renioun to kind give us real final or see what everyone up2 today.or him in another comedy be good2.really wish he would got a emmy for his work on Night court he really deserved one.while JOhn got 4 which is also great.

do u think they could done without Richard Moll Bull.

nitcrt1
12-27-2005, 10:09 PM
Let me respond to what I've been reading on this post. I don't know anything about an interview journal regarding Harry Anderson. I'd like to know myself where that came from. From what I understand or have heard about the Richard Moll story all I can say is that it had nothing to do with stupid lines being written for his character. Let's just say character personas aren't always what the person is like in real life. Could they have done without Richard Moll? In the begining maybe if problems had developed right from the start, which they did not. From what I gather, problems did not develop until later in the shows years. Therfore, it would have made it virtually impossible to get rid of him because he was a prominent character.

judgestone
12-28-2005, 07:57 PM
Please check into Harry Anderson fan sites from Ellen Kotzin click "archives"
there is an article "Harry's interview with Lynn Wilson fan's question".

That is where I found the article about it.I hope that helped.

judgestone
12-28-2005, 08:02 PM
Harry'w website is www.harryanderson.net and you will be able to find the article that talking about. Ellen is making new Harry's website in sometime in Januaray 2006.:crazy:

McFly121
12-28-2005, 10:33 PM
I was all for the character's stretches. Seeing the same thing for 7 or 8 years gets stale. "Nice" Dan was interesting for a while. I bought into Christine's sort of mid-life pain of giving into a one-night stand. Harry being so blind-sided by love that he'd chuck his Torme picture in the drawer. We all do things out of the ordinary under diress.

But that final year...surprised the show wasn't shipped off to Saturday nights. The writing was up to what UPN does now. And that they thought of a 10th season in syndication! Talk about a former shell if those eps had been made.

nitcrt1
12-28-2005, 11:11 PM
I agree that the writing for years seven and eight was okay. It was good to change things up a bit. Year nine, however, was the black hole. I blame the writers and the producers Chris Cluess and Stewart Kreisman for wrecking the show. It's a good thing Reinhold Weege refused to watch those last three years. As he replied in an e-mail I sent him some years ago he, "refused to watch what others had done to my show." I don't blame him. I wouldn't either. I think I even read somewhere that in the early years, Chris Cluess and Stewart Kreisman were working on the show with Reinhold Weege. However, all three of the men were in conflict with each other, so Cluess and Kreisman left the show. Gee, I wonder why. Could it be that Reinhold Weege was far more creative than those two idiots?! I still hold Cluess and Kreisman responsible for sinking the show like the "Titanic." I could have written and produced better episodes than these guys. Change is a good thing, but you've got to make it fit with the atmosphere of the show. I think there were a lot of missed opportunities in season nine. They say that when they got renewed towards the end of season eight they got screwed creatively because they were working towards a fitting finish. You know what I say...BULL!!! They were just too lazy to keep going with the story lines because they didn't know how to do it at that point. They were also afraid to take a risk. They just wanted to please the network suits. That's why I loved Reinhold Weege. He didn't give a crap what the suits said. He ran his show the way he wanted to. He took risks and it always paid off. He was smarter than the network and Warner Brothers in my opinion. That's why I really would love to know how Reinhold Weege would have put an end to his show. All he said in his e-mail to me was that,

"If it had been my decision I would have ended the show when I left, and certainly I would have worked hard on a proper and fitting finale."

That was in 2000. To this day, I still often wonder what his "proper and fitting finale" would have been.

McFly121
12-30-2005, 02:34 AM
Months ago I posted an old article I found when the show was going off the air where Cluess and Kreisman said something like "Warners just threw so much money at us...", so it does seem they were punching a clock for a network paycheck rather than for artistic creativity.

Nitcrt1, I also read what you did, about how they began with the show but left very quickly, only to return after Weege left. Lame of NBC to bring in two guys who hadn't set foot near the show for years. Why not give Tim Steele or Tom Straw the reigns? Ah well, over and done with.

nitcrt1
12-30-2005, 10:50 AM
Exactly! Why would you want two guys who had no clue how the show worked be hired back? I think it should have been Reinhold Weege's decision who he wanted to take his place. At least then there would have been someone on board who also knew the ins and outs of the show. I think Tim Steele or even Linwood Boomer could have been good choices. Anyone would have been better than Cluess and Kreisman. I think they deliberately took the show in their direction, using their vision, not Reinhold's.:mad: