We need to start a pettion to get him back http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/member.php?u=9410

I hope its just a flaw in the system and not for real

What the hell? Has to be a glitch or a joke.

i want details!

i want details!
:lol: Me too!

Better be IN ERROR...the posters that need to be banned are still here!!:crazy:

the posters that need to be banned are still here!!:crazy:
i second that

I see his name under "Currently Active Users"

Somebody email Solomon.

This better be a joke!

Solomon, you should feel :heart: now....

i second that
I third that!

I third that!
i fourth that!
:lol:

WTH? Why would he be banned? :eek:

WTF!?!?! :eek2:

this thread is growing so fast!!!

i fourth that!



Dibs on fifth that.

Come back Retro!

Sixth that, I think somebody around here is on a power trip!

Seventh that.

This is like a bad joke from that Maude spinoff, Good Times.

Solomon banned, I never ever thought I'd see that happen :eek:

I eighthed that.


Come back Solomon.

I ninth that, I'm curious to know what the heck is going on!

Um....
http://www.dialmformax.com/images/inspector_gadget.jpg
"Wowsers!"

I Ninth that.

I can't imagine SO without Solomon.

OMGAW wha?

I tenth that. SO isn't the same without Solomon :(

I Ninth that.

I can't imagine SO without Solomon.
Me neither. Everyone thinks the sitcom boards are dead now but they will be even worst if Solomon doesn't come back.

I see that he swore at another member on another board. He also apologized, which is more than I can say for other members who call each other names.

A stern warning was definitely in order; then a suspension if it happened again.

Banned? That's means he's gone for good. :confused:

who banned him?

Yeah I could see a suspension for that, but banning

:eek: he musta taken TJ's sister out on a date...

Who?

:eek: he musta taken TJ's sister out on a date...
:lol:

:eek: he musta taken TJ's sister out on a date...


:lol:

i want some answers!

like all of you here i cant immagne this place without solomon i hope this is a joke

:eek: he musta taken TJ's sister out on a date...
:rofl:

i want some answers!
Me too.

Well, I'm pretty new here, and I don't know everybody as well as a lot of you know eachother, but...

Somehow, I have a feeling he's probably cursing up a storm over this right now and grumbling, Fred Flinstone style.

A few years ago, before I even knew anything about SitcomsOnline, I got into a fight with some guy on Yahoo, I think he was just going by solomon@webtv.net. We were both in a Good Times Yahoo group and we got into something about how old Bernadette Stanis was. He was being an ass about it and I was like, "who is this *******?"

Later on, I joined SO and started hanging around the Good Times board and eventually got into it over something with some character here. It didn't hit me at first that the same guy who I'm arguing with here was the same guy I argued with in the Yahoo group.

Long story short, even though I got into it with him in the past, he has a side of him where you can't stay mad at him. I would've never imagined this at first, but he's become one of my favorite members. He's always talking about how much he loves this site, so if this is real, I hope it's a temporary thing.

yea, he's one of those members that you love to hate... :lol:

I lurked around here long before I ever joined and the one person who's posts I always read was Solomon's. He has a certain way of posting that even if you disagree with him, you have to laugh. After I joined he was one of the first members I ever talked to and he sure makes SO a fun place to be at. The sitcom boards and the sports boards just won't be the same without him.

Yeah I always enjoy reading Solomon's posts. Sometimes he makes me shake my head in amazement at the things he posts :lol:

are you sure that he was banned, or if he was pulling a "SBTB Geek" and putting banned in his profile even though you know he's not

are you sure that he was banned, or if he was pulling a "SBTB Geek" and putting banned in his profile even though you know he's not
No his banned is in red.

I lurked around here long before I ever joined and the one person who's posts I always read was Solomon's. He has a certain way of posting that even if you disagree with him, you have to laugh. After I joined he was one of the first members I ever talked to and he sure makes SO a fun place to be at. The sitcom boards and the sports boards just won't be the same without him.
When I finally made my way over to Chit Chat in early 2003, I would just lurk and read the threads. I never really did anything but read. I remember seeing threads started by a guy named SOLOMON (the exact typing of the name Solomon aka Retro was going by at the time). I remember thinking, "Okay...That guy is stubborn and off his rocker...Hmmm, I think I'll keep reading his posts..." and when I finally did start posting at CC, I replied to a lot of his threads. Eventually he grew on to me and I stopped thinking he was off his rocker. He's definitely a character. You can't help but like him. He can be inappropriate at times...but we all do the same thing...But you always forgive him in the end. :lol:

I asked Solomon about it in an email


I have no idea Matt. I'm as shocked as you are. It says banned under my
username?

I blame Microsoft and WebTV.

so ironically, it IS Solomon's fault for not dumping WebTV sooner - he shoulda just held off on buying that new air conditioner for awhile.

I hope all of this gets straightened out and that Solomon is allowed to return... soon...

Banned? Wouldnt it be more fair if he was at least suspended first? o_O I didnt really know him, but I didnt have anything against him.

This reminds of the time AKA was suspended and the whole board was in an uproar :lol:

Soloman annoys the hell out of me, especially in the sports boards when someone disagrees with him. He always replies with "you don't know anything about football". I still wouldn't want him banned, he at least makes things interesting, even if annoying.

Oh man, I'm mad late on this but we need an explanation. I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION.

are you sure that he was banned, or if he was pulling a "SBTB Geek" and putting banned in his profile even though you know he's not

Thanks for the plug. ;)

I hopefully this is just a temporary suspension. He was a great addition to the Sitcoms Online family.

I can't believe this would happen to him. He has been here for a very long time!!

:rofl::roper

:rofl::roper
:racist:

:rofl::roper

-LOL

are you sure that he was banned, or if he was pulling a "SBTB Geek" and putting banned in his profile even though you know he's not
That's not the case because I Just put banned under my name and it censors it out like it's a bad word lolzl. I wonder what he did. Turn on the air conditioner too high, broke someones feet for being too ugly. Man, what a badass.

hahahahahaha! oh man, this is so great. he was funny sometimes, and when he was i posted "lol" smileys to avoid conflict with him, but i got unbelievably fed up with his ridiculing my depression and saying that i'm clinically insane and "only exist to be laughed at". he made me f-cking sick. and so does any petition trying to get him back.

it's funny. the day before my friend died last may, i made a list of everything i had to do the next day (which i still have just for bad memories) because i had a hectic schedule i couldn't keep track of in my mind, and one of them says "4:15 - go home and fight with solomon" because we were consistently fighting at the time.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

I liked reading Solomon's posts too (although I don't really know him that well) and hope he can comes back. Does anyone know who banned him? If we find out, maybe someone can send them a PM or email and ask them for some details regarding the ban, and ask if it could be lifted.

I don't think there's one person who Solomon hasn't rubbed the wrong way at one point or another, but like Vashti said, he is someone that is so likable it's hard to stay mad at

First off, if anyone has issues with this particular issue, especially a moderator, I enocurage them to discuss it with me personally.
My email again is Savageamusement@comcast.net

It isn't the boards choice when and whom gets banned, and it isn't automatically anyones business. But for the record.

RetroTvCollector was banned for the duration of one week, because he, is required to comply with the SitcomsOnline rules just as any other user is.

We as moderators would be hipocrits if we allowed Vetran Traders to say and do as they wished with no consequences.

The banning was not immediate, a set of emails was sent out, it was requested certain behaviours cease-
Upon agreening to that, and it continued he was banned for one week.

It isn't for life, it wasn't a sentence. He isn't banished. It is merely facts.

There are rules on SitcomsOnline. We have all walks of life, religious faiths, younger users.
And certain rules are made for certain reasons. He can contact me, or another moderator at any time.
He can contact the board owner at any time.
However I do not think the expecation of a user being polite, and respectful to other users is out of the question, nor something I or any other moderator needs to apologize for.

Sitcoms is supposed to be fun. It is supposed to be an enjoyable atmosphere- and we expect the same of all users. He was not singled out, he was not to be made an example out of.
The consequence of being banned, is the same I would have used with any other user for the same situation.
I considered it a cooling off period.

This is not for the board to discuss, and although I welcome any discussion, this is more a discussion that should be held in private, then airing who and why someone was banned.

Some of the reasons list below here, are not accurate, and as assumptions grow so do rumors.

Please forward any complaints or questions you have to me, on this matter- and should you feel you need to question my choice, you can contact any other moderator. I stand by my decision. And my expectations of conduct.

so a week without him, this will certainly be a boring week here.

so a week without him, this will certainly be a boring week here.

Wouldnt that be a suspension?

I thought banned was forever.

Yeah isn't suspension usually temporary, and banning forever? Banning is supposed to be permanent.

When did moderators get the power to ban people?

When did moderators get the power to ban people?

I donno, I know I don't have it, and I don't want it. I have never even heard of that moderator.

When did moderators get the power to ban people?I think it depends on what board they have jurisdiction over. Seeing as the banning was handed down from the moderator of the trading board, with the problems that have happened over there I think the moderator powers are higher.

Yeah isn't suspension usually temporary, and banning forever? Banning is supposed to be permanent.

That's what I always thought.

BRING BACK SOLOMON!!!!
He is far the funniest, more endearing member of this board. I always look forward to his comments..(Solomon is hilarious)

I never even knew mods could ban people, I thought only Seth and TJ could do that. That's a power I don't feel mods should have.

I donno, I know I don't have it, and I don't want it. I have never even heard of that moderator.
me neither.

I think it depends on what board they have jurisdiction over. Seeing as the banning was handed down from the moderator of the trading board, with the problems that have happened over there I think the moderator powers are higher.


He's a moderator of the Tape Trading board. If he is only gone a week, it should've said suspended, not BANNED.

Shouldn't a more popular moderator, like Janice or someone, be able to overrule this? :lol:

I never even knew mods could ban people, I thought only Seth and TJ could do that. That's a power I don't feel mods should have.

Still he should have been suspended if it were only for a week, not banned. Plus I thought the rules were a 3 day suspension first.

so a week without him, this will certainly be a boring week here.

Well aren't you guys all being a little, um...extreme?

I've seen quite a few entertaining people during my short time here, and I have a feeling somehow everybody will find a way to occupy eachother for at least a week.

Maybe since I'm new, it's easier for me to see things as plainly as they are; if somebody violates the rules, then they should be disciplined, no matter who it is.

That Moderator said they had warned him quite a few times, and to me, it doesn't look like anything unfair was done here.

This guy has no clue.

I never even knew mods could ban people, I thought only Seth and TJ could do that. That's a power I don't feel mods should have.

I don't either.

He's a moderator of the Tape Trading board. If he is only gone a week, it should've said suspended, not BANNED.
I hardly ever go to that board. No wonderr I never heard of him

This guy has no clue.

You know what? Just because I'm not part of "the gang" here or whatever doesn't mean I'm incapable of understanding how things work.

He's your friend and you're upset. That's understandable.

But rules are for everybody and this is a perfect example of showing no that nobody's invulnerable.

Friend or not, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Well aren't you guys all being a little, um...extreme?

I've seen quite a few entertaining people during my short time here, and I have a feeling somehow everybody will find a way to occupy eachother for at least a week.

Maybe since I'm new, it's easier for me to see things as plainly as they are; if somebody violates the rules, then they should be disciplined, no matter who it is.

That Moderator said they had warned him quite a few times, and to me, it doesn't look like anything unfair was done here.
I have seen many fights on these boards and many people could have been banned. None were. Usually a warning or a 3 day suspension happens first and I thought only the Administrators and Janice had the right to ban people.

Still he should have been suspended if it were only for a week, not banned. Plus I thought the rules were a 3 day suspension first.


Yeah I thought that was the rule. Shouldn't this have to be approved by TJ first too?

But rules are for everybody
Then the same rules should apply to everybody. Let everyone be put on notice -- if they curse at another member, they will receive an automatic BANNING for one week. No questions asked.

Yeah I thought that was the rule. Shouldn't this have to be approved by TJ first too?

I would imagine it was, or TJ has the confidence in this guy to take care of problems.

You know what? Just because I'm not part of "the gang" here or whatever doesn't mean I'm incapable of understanding how things work.

He's your friend and you're upset. That's understandable.

But rules are for everybody and this is a perfect example of showing no that nobody's invulnerable.

Friend or not, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Huh? Who are you? I'm not incapable of understanding the rules either. He was "banned" when he should've been suspended. It should not say Banned under his user name. It's that simple. Besides, nobody should have the right to ban anybody but TJ himself in all honesty. And why is it in every single post you say you are new? That sounds to me that you really aren't.

Huh? Who are you? I'm not incapable of understanding the rules either. He was "banned" when he should've been suspended. It should not say Banned under his user name. It's that simple. Besides, nobody should have the right to ban anybody but TJ himself in all honesty. And why is it in every single post you say you are new? That sounds to me that you really aren't.

Yeah I think Brian was saying the Mod who banned him had no clue, not you. (or maybe both, i donno)

Then the same rules should apply to everybody. Let everyone be put on notice -- if they curse at another member, they will receive an automatic banning for one week. No questions asked.

I'm not condoning Solomon breaking the rules, but IMO it sure looks like someone is trying to make an example of him

I'm not condoning Solomon breaking the rules, but IMO it sure looks like someone is trying to make an example of himYou could be right about that

Well firstly, I've been here a little bit more than a month. To me, that's new, considering there are people who have been here like four years longer than I have.

And secondly--yes Janice. I agree. When I said that I think the same rules should apply to everybody, I meant it. I'm not just trying to be rude or contrary.

Everyone lives up to the same standards, and I just believe that's how it should go.

And I'd just like to add that I have no problems with anybody here, Solomon and the rest of you included. I've had nothing but a fun time here so far. Just stating my opinion is all.

Then the same rules should apply to everybody. Let everyone be put on notice -- if they curse at another member, they will receive an automatic BANNING for one week. No questions asked.

Also, technically, nobody was banned for a week with no questions asked. That Moderator said a series of e-mails was sent to Solomon and Solomon agreed to the terms. After violating the terms he agreed to, THEN he was banned. It doesn't sound so unreasonable to me.

I never even knew mods could ban people, I thought only Seth and TJ could do that. That's a power I don't feel mods should have.
Tape Trading and Chit Chat (as well as the CC sub-boards) are the largest boards here at SO... So the people who mod the trading and CC boards have higher power than regular mods. A person who merely mods a sitcoms board like, say, Sasette at the Who's the Boss? board, has basic modding duties. But because Janice mods an extremely high-traffic board, she has more powers. I know she has the ability to suspend and ban people, but only in extreme circumstances (Miss Golden, anyone?). The same goes for the tape trading board. It is another high-traffic board so that mod gets more powers than a regular mod.

I'm not condoning Solomon breaking the rules, but IMO it sure looks like someone is trying to make an example of him
Thats what it looks like. I've seen members curse at other members before and nothing happens. Everyone should be treated equal.

For the record
I would just like it stated for the record- that due to decision I mad to ban Retor I have recieved numerous complaints.

And I would like ot point out, the reason the banning took place was due to numerous complaints.

This is the exact situation that a moderator hates.
Being darned if you do and darned if you don't.


Had I ignored this particular situation, I would have had unjustice cries from those stating Vetran users need to set an example and shoudn't be above the rules of conduct.
Had I ignored it, I would have been questioned that I was allowing a Vetran user to say and do as he wishes, no consequences for actions that any other user has to uphold to.

By banning him for a week, I receive complaints that I am beeing to ridgid and my expecations are too high.

No matter what decision I made, there woudl have been a complaint from somewhere.

So my decision was not based on what others thought, or what others wanted done.
My decision was based on rules that are already set in motion, the fact he was contacted and my request to curtain the behaviour denied.
My decision was based on the expecation that all uses have the right to use the site freely and be respected, and that all users be show courteous replies, and allow to share this hobby with a younger section without being exposed to certain language.
My decision was based on the fact that everyone here has the right to be talked to as an adult, maturely and respectfully and not be intimidated.

I stand by my decision.

Anyone who has any complaints on this choice, has every right to go above me, beyodn me and talk to any other modeartors as well as the owner.
If you think you can do a better job, and have more wisdom and insight, I welcome that.


I didn't choose this job for popularity. I chose it for my basic opinion, on upholing basic rights.
I do what I can, as well as I can.
Any complaints on how I do things, can be made to combisthebest in example, or even the owner of the board.
I never claim to be perfect.

My rule of thumb is, I don't want to be treated differently becuase I moderate, and I don't want you as a community to be treated different becuase you don't.
I am sorry so many have a complaint on how things were done this time around, Ironically I have 17 emails thanking me for my choice as well.
You can't please everyone, which is why I didn't choose to do this based on that intention.
Rules are rules, period.
And in my defense, I emailed this user FIRST 3 times to discuss the matter. The behaviour continued. Complaints continued, and ironically, I TRIED to email this user 4 times after that, and received a message that my emails are refused as are my personal messages to him.
So before someone throws me under the coals, try knowing all the facts.
Assumptions only build rumors.





Savage~

I still say thats a SUSPENSION not a BAN.

I still say thats a SUSPENSION not a BAN.
me too.

I still say thats a SUSPENSION not a BAN.

What difference does it make what the word under his name says?

He'll be gone a week, not any longer.

You say tomato, they say tomato...except, that different sounding way of saying tomato.

It could say "Sudaflaveegenleevin" under his name, for that matter. He'll still only be gone a week.

What difference does it make what the word under his name says?

He'll be gone a week, not any longer.

You say tomato, they say tomato...except, that different sounding way of saying tomato.

It could say "Sudaflaveegenleevin" under his name, for that matter. He'll still only be gone a week.

well we saw Banned and we jumped at it. If we saw suspended we would not its not forever.

What difference does it make what the word under his name says?

He'll be gone a week, not any longer.

You say tomato, they say tomato...except, that different sounding way of saying tomato.

It could say "Sudaflaveegenleevin" under his name, for that matter. He'll still only be gone a week.

Believe it or not there is a difference between a BAN and a suspension.
If you knew the differece, you'd understand.

well we saw Banned and we jumped at it. If we saw suspended we would not its not forever.

I know that. But now everybody knows what the case is, and I just wanted to say what I thought might make people feel better again and that way, people could look at it and think maybe things aren't so bad afterall. ^_^

And okay, if I don't understand, then I don't understand. Educate me and tell me what the difference is between "This member has been suspended for one week" and "This member has been banned for one week."

If there's a difference that I'm unaware of, then I'd like to know.

Looks to me like his banning has been lifted. :D

He must be back now, because his title is now Forum Veteran

EDIT- Janice posted first. :)

Looks to me like his banning has been lifted. :D

Did you have anything to do with that? ;)

He's back? Cool :D

Good, i'm glad he's back :)

What difference does it make what the word under his name says?

He'll be gone a week, not any longer.

You say tomato, they say tomato...except, that different sounding way of saying tomato.

It could say "Sudaflaveegenleevin" under his name, for that matter. He'll still only be gone a week.


You are completely missing the point. It said Banned and naturally people reacted to it. Besides, there have been SEVERAL instances where other members have done far worse and received NO punishment what so ever.

Did you have anything to do with that? ;)
Maybe indirectly. I'm honestly not sure. I know I made some noise.

TJ rules!

Good, i'm glad he's back :)
me too. :)

Great to have him back. :D

Savage has a lot of responsibility at the tape board. Don't ignore Savage over this everybody.

Its great to have Solomon back. :woohoo:

Great to have him back. :D

Savage has a lot of responsibility at the tape board. Don't ignore Savage over this everybody.

I don't doubt they did what they thought was right, but if TJ reinstated him, was he right?

Also, technically, nobody was banned for a week with no questions asked. That Moderator said a series of e-mails was sent to Solomon and Solomon agreed to the terms. After violating the terms he agreed to, THEN he was banned. It doesn't sound so unreasonable to me.
I read back a couple of weeks on that forum and Solomon was fine with that one exception.

You're new. You don't know Solomon like the long-time members do. He brings a LOT to this site. He's the only member who I can honestly say, that if he left, SO wouldn't be the same. He screwed up, like many members do. If I banned/suspended members every time they swore at another member, I'd ban at least 10 members a week.

The chance you take with suspending members is that they may not return. I've seen it happen before.

:eek: he musta taken TJ's sister out on a date...


THIS WAS THE FUNNIEST STATEMENT I ever read in my 3 years on This Site. Rob you are WILD-lol I'm still laughing-lol

Looks like we should change the name of this thread now ;)

Wow, I check my e-mail and see all this happened.

Solomon did have a few outbursts on the Tape Trading board. He did apologize and the thread was closed. Apparently, he was sent a few warnings via e-mail which I never saw. I don't know if they were sent before or after the fact. My complaint is that the only way I knew about this was about the reported posts on his lanaguage. I was forwarded none of these other e-mails until just now. The moderators thought they were only suspending him for a week when moderators are only able to outright ban people for a set period of time. I was very hesitant to give any mods the power to ban people. Things seemed to have been ok before this when I was the only one suspending/banning people. Of course things are a bit more active on there than they were back then.

I guess the banning policies were never outlined by me, and we've just played things by ear. I definitely feel like I should have been consulted first and shown any e-mails that were sent out.

I've e-mailed Solomon a few times before and tried to reign him in. There have times where I have given serious consideration of suspending him just to cool him down.

Love him or hate him, he is a valuable member of this community and I'd hate to see him leave. A lot of times he jokes, and people don't understand that he is joking. I think people take some of the things he says too seriously.

He still may be suspended for this. I am still reviewing all the facts to see what exactly has transpired.

WOO HE'S BACK, PARRRRTAAAAAAAAY! I'll bring the froot punch! :cheers:

i want some answers!


Here is what he wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector
First of all you are a A$$HOLE, I'm talking about backup for the shows that are my Favorites. And why would anyone need audio backup for a CD when they can just purchase a new f*uckin CD. You are a JACKA$$
AND

Originally Posted by RetroTVCollector
Isn't obvious I can't make DVD copies at the moment? Which is why I said VHS backup for shows I want to watch again. Read the F*uckin post next time.

Solomon did have a few outbursts on the Tape Trading board. He did apologize and the thread was closed. Apparently, he was sent a few warnings via e-mail which I never saw.

He never apologized for cussing at me for no reason. His apology was for something he meant to say before he ever cussed and insulted me. I do NOT want any apologies from him but lets get the facts straight, any apology in that thread was never directed towards me.

Here is what he wrote:

Quote:

AND



Scott I have aplogized for these statements 4 times. So let me make this the 5th time. I apologize

I never even knew mods could ban people, I thought only Seth and TJ could do that. That's a power I don't feel mods should have.
Yeah seriously -_-

First off, if anyone has issues with this particular issue, especially a moderator, I enocurage them to discuss it with me personally.
My email again is Savageamusement@comcast.net

It isn't the boards choice when and whom gets banned, and it isn't automatically anyones business. But for the record.

RetroTvCollector was banned for the duration of one week, because he, is required to comply with the SitcomsOnline rules just as any other user is.

We as moderators would be hipocrits if we allowed Vetran Traders to say and do as they wished with no consequences.

The banning was not immediate, a set of emails was sent out, it was requested certain behaviours cease-
Upon agreening to that, and it continued he was banned for one week.

It isn't for life, it wasn't a sentence. He isn't banished. It is merely facts.

There are rules on SitcomsOnline. We have all walks of life, religious faiths, younger users.
And certain rules are made for certain reasons. He can contact me, or another moderator at any time.
He can contact the board owner at any time.
However I do not think the expecation of a user being polite, and respectful to other users is out of the question, nor something I or any other moderator needs to apologize for.

Sitcoms is supposed to be fun. It is supposed to be an enjoyable atmosphere- and we expect the same of all users. He was not singled out, he was not to be made an example out of.
The consequence of being banned, is the same I would have used with any other user for the same situation.
I considered it a cooling off period.

This is not for the board to discuss, and although I welcome any discussion, this is more a discussion that should be held in private, then airing who and why someone was banned.

Some of the reasons list below here, are not accurate, and as assumptions grow so do rumors.

Please forward any complaints or questions you have to me, on this matter- and should you feel you need to question my choice, you can contact any other moderator. I stand by my decision. And my expectations of conduct.
that sounds like a bunch of bull ****....














... do i get banned now? :(

What the heck? SOLOMON banned? That would be arguably the worst event in Sitcoms Online History. The man is not only a legend, but a vital contributer to our awesome community. :cuss:

Glad everything was cleared up. :)

I am going to say this once again-
No one including me ever said I was perfect - Nor claimed to be.
But not every aspect of this was made public.

If someone feels mods shoudn't be able to suspend or ban users, they can contact TJ.

If someone feels that they need to poke at me, you can do so priavelty or publically, I take no offense to being challanged.
But understand saying you disagree with me, is a lot easier, than BEING me.

As a moderator you hear the complaints that others make.
The parents that try to share trading with their kids, and take offense to certain things.
The people who feel attacked or insulted, the ones who leave- the ones who disagree with the rules
The ones who complain about others avatars
The ones that complain about trades.
The ones that need mediation.

As a moderator you check for bad traders, and you get pulled into 3-4 situations a DAY.

There are the retail sales checks, and editing forums.
There are people who post sale ads, and ebay ads, and ads to doenate blood.
There are ridiclous posts on sales and spam-
Then there are previouslly burned traders, who blame the mods for the bad trader even being ON the site.

I do my best, I am not perfect and it is a LARGE LARGE board
I don't get paid, I don't get a lot of sleep some nights and I don't get thanks very often.
But I do make a difference. I do block bad users, I do help mediate nad work things out.
And that doesn't get much recognition.

In this case, I full admit- that TJ should have been consulted. WE have talked about it, and I admit I am learning too.

But making rude comments, or attacking a decision bad or good isnt' going to solve anything. Experience is the only way things change- and this particular situation hadn't happened before.

The RULES do state certain aspects, and I was following, and trying to havea member follow rules.
Anyone can contact Retro and ask, he was emailed he was PMed and there was confusion on HIS end- that resulted in no pm or no email getting through to him, sufficient proof was sent to him on that as well.
Therefore the breakdown in communication certainly did not help matters.

If someone feels they can do a better job, emial TJ and take my position.

I try to do a good job, but the overall result I want is the board to be happy and run smoother.
If I am failing at that, let my pride not hold the board back.

What else can I say.

I have heard nothing but complaints.
Complaints originally as to what was being said, and actions not being taken.
Complaints actiosn taken.
Complaints I shouldn't be allowed to make decisions, complaints that it should haev been a different decision.


If someone knows the secret to pleaseing all the peopel all the time, by all means fill me in.

I'm exhausted form being judged on this situation.

Savage~

I am going to say this once again-
No one including me ever said I was perfect - Nor claimed to be.
But not every aspect of this was made public.

If someone feels mods shoudn't be able to suspend or ban users, they can contact TJ.

If someone feels that they need to poke at me, you can do so priavelty or publically, I take no offense to being challanged.
But understand saying you disagree with me, is a lot easier, than BEING me.

As a moderator you hear the complaints that others make.
The parents that try to share trading with their kids, and take offense to certain things.
The people who feel attacked or insulted, the ones who leave- the ones who disagree with the rules
The ones who complain about others avatars
The ones that complain about trades.
The ones that need mediation.

As a moderator you check for bad traders, and you get pulled into 3-4 situations a DAY.

There are the retail sales checks, and editing forums.
There are people who post sale ads, and ebay ads, and ads to doenate blood.
There are ridiclous posts on sales and spam-
Then there are previouslly burned traders, who blame the mods for the bad trader even being ON the site.

I do my best, I am not perfect and it is a LARGE LARGE board
I don't get paid, I don't get a lot of sleep some nights and I don't get thanks very often.
But I do make a difference. I do block bad users, I do help mediate nad work things out.
And that doesn't get much recognition.

In this case, I full admit- that TJ should have been consulted. WE have talked about it, and I admit I am learning too.

But making rude comments, or attacking a decision bad or good isnt' going to solve anything. Experience is the only way things change- and this particular situation hadn't happened before.

The RULES do state certain aspects, and I was following, and trying to havea member follow rules.
Anyone can contact Retro and ask, he was emailed he was PMed and there was confusion on HIS end- that resulted in no pm or no email getting through to him, sufficient proof was sent to him on that as well.
Therefore the breakdown in communication certainly did not help matters.

If someone feels they can do a better job, emial TJ and take my position.

I try to do a good job, but the overall result I want is the board to be happy and run smoother.
If I am failing at that, let my pride not hold the board back.

What else can I say.

I have heard nothing but complaints.
Complaints originally as to what was being said, and actions not being taken.
Complaints actiosn taken.
Complaints I shouldn't be allowed to make decisions, complaints that it should haev been a different decision.


If someone knows the secret to pleaseing all the peopel all the time, by all means fill me in.

I'm exhausted form being judged on this situation.

Savage~



Not a problem, you were just doing what you felt was best as a MOD. But like I said when some of the members saw BANNED, they thought I was gone for good because that's usually what BANNED means. BUt it's over now and I know the rules and will treat everyone with respect. But don't get to stressed out

What the heck did I miss? :lol: :eek:

What the heck did I miss? :lol: :eek:


It's Been a Wild Day Brent-lol I guess you can start from Page 1-lol

What the heck did I miss? :lol: :eek:

:yeahthat :lol:

It's Been a Wild Day Brent-lol I guess you can start from Page 1-lol

Yeah... I read through all of it.

:eek: :confused:

Yeah... I read through all of it.

:eek: :confused:


I didn't even know I was banned until a member of this site emailed me. I was like HUH?-lol Banned? For what?

I think what Savage is saying makes sense. As Solomon said, Savage was doing what he/she thought was right. But it's nice to see Retro Solomon back.

And it was nice to "meet" you, Savage. :) I've never been to the board you moderate, so I'd never seen any of your posts until this thread. But you seem like a nice person, so I throw out friendly sentiments.

Who wants to come carol-singing with me?

Thank you for the warm sentiment..

I have the solution

DUH I don't know why I didn't think of this before.

Tj can let Retro Ban me- and THEN I can go caroling :)
I can use the vacation.....

Let me go find my music book



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There was a lot of tension on this situation, a lot of lessons learned by a lot of people.
For those who have asked, no Retro and I are not at odds- we are still pming each other- He is intelligent enough to know my idea and choice was not personal.
And I am rational and calm enough to know a lot of people reacted due to not knowing the full story, and probably (probably) don't mean the mean things that were said about me.
Well, that is what I choose to believe :)

So on to another day of trading...right?

Cept for me, me, I got caroling with Sharop. I am an alto by the way scoot over..