Did any of you see Dr.Phil's show last week?? It was on female abductions and white slavery and it is happening a lot more than I thought or what people think.

They focused on Natalee Holloway and then Amy Bradley. Amy Bradley is the woman who mysteriously vanished from the cruise ship in 1998. They showed a photo that is supposedley Amy Bradley 7 YEARS LATER and it was creepy as hell!! She is in a revealing pose with short shorts on and it really does look like her!! The only major difference is her hair is longer, darker, and curly. There was a incredible story of one guy who was scuba diving off the island of CUracao and when he was walking on the beach he saw a girl staring at him and he saw distictive tatoos on her but 2 guys she was with told her to stop looking at him. Then this guy saw Amy's story on America's Most Wanted and HE WAS AMAZED THAT AMY'S TATOOS EXACTLY MATCHED THIS GIRL HE SAW ON THE BEACH!!!

Also, a US Navy sailor was at a whorehouse in the Carribeean somewhere (maybe Curacao) and this girl told him he was Amy Bradley and she needs help. He told her that there was a Navy ship close by and she could get help. BUT FOR SOME VERY VERY BIZARRE REASON SHE DID NOT GO WITH HIM!!! THAT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL!! IT YOU HAD BEEN KIDNAPPED AND RAPED FOR YEARS ON END YOU WOULD TAKE THE FIRST CHANCE YOU HAVE TO GET OUT ESPECIALLY WHEN PROTECTED BY US MILITARY!! But the sailor said he was not supposed to be there so the only thing that makes sense is that the sailor lied and maybe Amy wanted to go with him but he said no since he would be in trouble because if he took Amy then his superior would find out where he had been.

I am hoping he lied otherwise that just couldn't have been Amy since no one in their right would turn down a chance to escape with the protection of a member of the U.S. military. With the evidence of the guy on the Curacao beach and the report of the U.S. sailor I think there is a very good chance AMy is still alive which would make IT ONE OF THE MOST UNBELIEVABLE STORIES OF ALL TIME!!

It was EERIE as hell to see the Amy before picture with short hair then the possible Amy picture as a whore 7 years later looking different but still definitely looked like Amy!!! If this is truly Amy then THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE TOP 2 OR 3 INCREDIBLE SOLVED MYSTERIES OF ALL TIME!!

Unfortunately, I couldn't find the picture of AMy on Dr.Phil's site. Could someone else try to find it? Dr.Phil's site is www.drphil.com.

Here you go:

http://www.drphil.com/assets/f/f3ef109822276d7a9441a63ec343f9ac.jpg

BUT FOR SOME VERY VERY BIZARRE REASON SHE DID NOT GO WITH HIM!!! THAT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL!! IT YOU HAD BEEN KIDNAPPED AND RAPED FOR YEARS ON END YOU WOULD TAKE THE FIRST CHANCE YOU HAVE TO GET OUT ESPECIALLY WHEN PROTECTED BY US MILITARY!! ...
I am hoping he lied otherwise that just couldn't have been Amy since no one in their right would turn down a chance to escape with the protection of a member of the U.S. military. With the evidence of the guy on the Curacao beach and the report of the U.S. sailor I think there is a very good chance AMy is still alive which would make IT ONE OF THE MOST UNBELIEVABLE STORIES OF ALL TIME!!



The sailor's story is plausible. She could be suffering from a well-established phenomenon called Stockholm Syndrome:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

I'm sorry I missed that episode. Let us know if they're going to rerun it.

OH MY GOSH!!!! I remember this case too!!!!!

I wish I had seen that, it seems unbelieveable tho

Here you go:

http://www.drphil.com/assets/f/f3ef109822276d7a9441a63ec343f9ac.jpg

Hey Echoes of Fear, where did you find that pic of Amy??

The sailor's story is plausible. She could be suffering from a well-established phenomenon called Stockholm Syndrome:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

I'm sorry I missed that episode. Let us know if they're going to rerun it.

Yeah, I know about Stockholm syndrome. That is what happened to that girl Elizabeth Smart from Utah who had a phone near her or people in the public to tell she had been kidnapped but never told anyone. But she was only 14 and I think an adult who has been kidnapped and raped by hundreds or possibly THOUSANDS of men (it's been 7 years!) would see her chance to escape with the protection of the U.S. military ESPECIALLY because her captors were not physically there when she met the sailor in private.

Unlike Elizabeth Smart whose captors were always near her even when she was in public. It just seems too far fetched to believe that she had a chance to escape with military protection after 7 years of torture and she didn't even bother!!! VERY BIZARRE AND INEXPLICABLE!!!

Yeah, I know about Stockholm syndrome. That is what happened to that girl Elizabeth Smart from Utah who had a phone near her or people in the public to tell she had been kidnapped but never told anyone. But she was only 14 and I think an adult who has been kidnapped and raped by hundreds or possibly THOUSANDS of men (it's been 7 years!) would see her chance to escape with the protection of the U.S. military ESPECIALLY because her captors were not physically there when she met the sailor in private.

Unlike Elizabeth Smart whose captors were always near her even when she was in public. It just seems too far fetched to believe that she had a chance to escape with military protection after 7 years of torture and she didn't even bother!!! VERY BIZARRE AND INEXPLICABLE!!!

I agree it's very very bizarre...and frustrating! I don't mean to turn this thread into a discussion on Stockholm Syndrome, but my point is, there IS an explanantion for that kind of behavior. A victim with SS does not have to be under the physical control of his/her captors/abusers in order to be totally compliant. I remember a case that was on American Justice where a woman was kidnapped and held captive for years (I'm sure Kane can remember her name). After a number of years, the kidnapper actually let the woman leave on her ownto go visit her family for a few days. The victim visited her family and then promptly returned to her kidnappers' home...only to escape and turn in her kidnappers a few years later. I'm not saying it makes sense to the rational mind, but it has happened before.

I'm sorry but that girl looks nothing like Amy Bradlee. I have really followed this case for all the years it has been on and while I don't discount that she could be kidnapped in the Caribbean I don't think this girl in the picture looks anything like her. I have seen a ton of pictures of her and this girl does not resemble her at all.

Hey Echoes of Fear, where did you find that pic of Amy??

On Dr. Phil's website.

I'm sorry but that girl looks nothing like Amy Bradlee. I have really followed this case for all the years it has been on and while I don't discount that she could be kidnapped in the Caribbean I don't think this girl in the picture looks anything like her. I have seen a ton of pictures of her and this girl does not resemble her at all.

Well, even Amy Bradley's PARENTS said they feel that could be Amy. The pic posted here is not a good pic to compare. They showed a closer side by side look of just the face of the old Amy with short hair and a face close up of this pic and there are DEFINITE facial similarities.

Even Forensice EXPERTS from the FBI examined the pic and they found a tiny mole by her eye that is seen in both pics and they said the chin is the same and the nose and eyebrows are very similar as well. They couldn't say 100% sure it's Amy but they said she definitely could be Amy. Also, all of the tatoos she had were strategically hidden just by the way she posed. So, the captors INTENTIONALLY had her pose that way just to hide her tatoos.
Seems pretty compelling to me that it's more likely that not that is Amy but the story of the guy on the beach who saw Amy and could identify her tatoos seems the BEST PROOF to show that Amy is STILL alive.

thank you very much for posting the leads in this case. that picture is fairly close to ms bradley, I have seen this case a bunch of times.

I think it's her! You can never be 100% sure, but I can see definite similarities.

It looks even more like her when you see Amy with long hair....


POSSIBLE AMY:
http://www.drphil.com/assets/f/f3ef109822276d7a9441a63ec343f9ac.jpg

AMY WITH LONG HAIR:
http://www.tggweb.com/amybradley/amylonghair.jpg

I also agree that it is probably Amy. Don't forget that 8 years have passed, and while many of us wish it weren't so, we do age. She may have filled out a bit in the face. And her face looks more hardened. But if you were made to frizz out your hair, put on garrish makeup and pose in a suggestive manner, most people probably wouldn't know you either.

I looked at her shoulders; pictures from before she disappeared and in this photo. Broad shoulders don't lie. You can't change the muscular parts without major surgery and I seriously doubt whether the "holders" would do that. Too much risk for damaged goods.

As for Amy not leaving with the sailor that night, the sailor has stated that she told him, "I'm not allowed to leave". He even mentioned that there were guards around. Not necessarily with guns, but he said they were not hard to spot. Which makes sense. "Bouncers" if you will. So she couldn't exactly just get up and walk out. She was seen on the beach with 3 or 4 other men "bouncers - handlers" and when she tried to make contact, they told her to keep going.

While some would argue that well, she was in public, all she had to do was run and scream, I disagree. As a former child of psychological and physical abuse, I can tell you, after a while you start to believe what they tell you and it is hard to believe that what is going on is wrong. They may even be telling her that they have "spies" everywhere and that there is no way she will ever leave. She probably believes it.

I don't understand why the government has not raided the establishment. They have pictures. But, as is common, authorities can also be part of the problem and not the solution.

Let's hope the family gets the answers they need.

That's a good pic to compare with you posted Opal. But what gives you the idea that Amy has broad shoulders?

Someone should post the pic of Amy with short hair and she has a sleeveless top on. There we can see those broad shoulders.

http://www.unsolved.com/1104-Bradley1.jpg http://www.drphil.com/assets/f/f3ef109822276d7a9441a63ec343f9ac.jpg

I can definately see the resemblance of the 2 pictures. Just look at her mouth... it's the same in both pics. I believe that it could definately be her!

I'd love to wager it's not her. I don't care what the story is or what the pictures look like or where the tattoos are, I'm betting bigtime no. Let's see, I've got the entire planet of similar looking woman going for me, and one girl who is most likely long dead working against me. I like those odds.

I know I'm being totally nitpicky, but why was this case presented as a "Lost Loves" segment instead of "Missing?" Was that in the original broadcast, or did Lifetime just do some jacked-up editing?

It's interesting to come read this later when I watched this case on Unsolved Mysteries today! I've seen it several times before, but now it's really fresh in my mind.

I looked at the Dr. Phil website after reading through this thread and found this comparative picture. It really does look like it could be her. I hope they find out more soon.

http://drphil.com/assets/a/a8c6fc350e2f3217d36856701961528f.jpg

I don't know... I totally see the similarities between the two pictures, and I believe that Stockholm Syndrome is real, but I'm hesitant to say that the unnamed woman in the photos is Amy Bradley. What really infuriated me about this case, though, is that Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines were so uncooperative about Amy's disappearance. If they had initiated a seach at the time the Bradleys reported Amy missing, perhaps they would have found her before the ship docked and the passengers were allowed to leave the ship. I'm pretty sure this is when the Bradleys lost Amy forever, as the kidnappers most likely pulled her off the ship at this time.

Sorry to bring such an old thread back up.. but this is the first time I've seen these actual pics. (though I remember hearing about the possible break that Dr. Phil had being talked about on MSNBC)

I honestly think this IS Amy. The similarities in looks are simply too strong.. then you add into the fact that you have all the other documented sightings as well and it all adds up.

Here's hoping we hear more about this in the near future and that it's good news.

stockholm syndrome doesn't apply here

you guys forgot to mention the important piece about the sailor in that Amy desperately tried to tell him she needed help but she was pulled away after a few seconds by two men....she said "I'm Amy Bradley I need help" the soldier said "there's a navy boat down the way you can come on board" and then two men whisked her away.

it's too bad the navy guy didn't report anything RIGHT away....it wasn't until a few years where he read about this case and the light bulb went on

she was definitely alive...no way the guy would lie about something like that....he went to the family and he felt remorseful about not saying anything....he didn't know at the time....

when they finally checked the area it was burned down....

such a sad story :(

Just look at her mouth... it's the same in both pics.
How can you tell? :confused: The new pic is so small and a little blurry.

I don't think it's her. The hair style is really out of date.

So I was surfin the net and I ran into 2 pics of a lady that I remembered as being the picture of the lady on Dr. Phil they were comparing to Amy Bradley. Not sure if this could be a lead to someone but if you know someone that could help feel free to pass it on. I have to warn that the link contains some mild adult material and if you are offended by slight nudity than I would not click on it. I am not posting this for any other reason than to share the find I am sorry if I am breaking forum rules.

Looks like the lady is an escort that goes by the name Jas.
http://www.affordable-adult-vacations.com/guest_escorts_entertainers.htm

So I was surfin the net and I ran into 2 pics of a lady that I remembered as being the picture of the lady on Dr. Phil they were comparing to Amy Smart. Not sure if this could be a lead to someone but if you know someone that could help feel free to pass it on. I have to warn that the link contains some mild adult material and if you are offended by slight nudity than I would not click on it. I am not posting this for any other reason than to share the find I am sorry if I am breaking forum rules.

Looks like the lady is an escort that goes by the name Jas.
http://www.affordable-adult-vacations.com/guest_escorts_entertainers.htm

You meant to say Amy Bradley, not Amy Smart.

The 2nd pic of "Jas" doesn't look quite as much as Amy as the first pic but you never can tell since it still could be her.

Because of that sailor's report I think there is a very good chance she is or was alive for a long time after her disappearance.

Well, from that site I would pick Renne. Otherwise fairly nasty. Not avatar material. Especially Charlie.

I never researched this case before because I thought it was a ridiculous premise. After looking at it briefly tonight it's even more ludicrous than I imagined.

The only reason those photos of "Jas" came to light was some guy checks escort-type sites to try to find women who resemble missing persons. Does anyone realize the parlay odds in that regard? You might as well start multiplying the speed of light by Serena Williams' poundage.

First of all, the woman would have to be kidnapped and held, forced into that type of activity. Combined, that is a massive longshot. Then of all the thousands of women involved throughout the globe, miraculously her photographs are not only taken, but chosen to be posted on a website, one prominent enough to be located by the amateur sleuth. Give me a break. Plus the guy who is searching will only be familiar with high profile or moderate profile missing persons.

The sailor may be sincere. And convinced. That hardly means the story is meaningful or accurate. We've seen that countless times on UM, solid citizens who make definitive claims regarding who they encountered and on what date and what was seen or heard, only for the accounts to end up completely unfounded.

Also, on a site called RumorMills, or something like that, I saw an old disclaimer from late 2005 that indicated Amy Bradley's mother does not think the woman is Amy, and discouraged further investigation into the matter. I also read another photo shows the women's navel and it apparently does not reveal a tattoo that Amy had.

Frankly, I could probably collect the escort service flyers they hand out here on the Strip and send them to that same guy who checks the internet sites, and he would find so-called matches to missing women. Ones that look plausible.

Do we know if there's been any attempt to follow up with the escort service website as to the source of the photo? Or the identity of the woman in it?
Surely couldn't be too hard to do?

(as to the comment about the unlikelihood of photos of an abducted prostitute being posted on a website, I wouldn't be surprised at all: like a lot of crims, her captors could well be idiots).


One other interesting fact to add to the mix. There's a site I found, (I can post the link if anyone's interested), which complains about the allegedly unapproved use of the 'hooker' photo on the Dr Phil episode (the allegation is, a website received the photo, sent it on to the parents, the website's owners agreed not to publish the photo further while investigations were going on, then the next thing the website's owners know, the photo appears on the Dr Phil edition).

Anyway, on the site which refers to the misuse of the photo, it refers to allegations, which the author admits he has not been able to verify, that Amy Bradley was positively identified as a prostitute, and that for one reason or another, she declined to make contact with her family.

Let me know if you want me to post the site link.

that's not true at all about Amy being found and not wanting anything to do with the family. The pictures that resemble her were found long before they were made public on the Dr Phil show or on that website you're talking about. They eventually released them because they didn't find any source and it led nowhere.

I talk to her family all the time, they're very nice folks. Amy was most definitely alive for at least some time after she was kidnapped, I dunno about now. The sailor story is accurate. Nobody other than Amy Bradley would've went up to a fellow American the way she did and told him her name. He never asked for anything from the family, when he found out about who Amy Bradley was, then he realized what was going on. There were also other credible sightings. Some Canadian tourists reported seeing Amy on the beach a few months after she disappeared. They were able to describe her tatooes perfectly.

the photos that surfaced didn't showed any part of her body where her tattooes were. which was odd, sounds like the photographer made sure to keep those outta sight. it definitely resembles her, especially if she was forced into prostitution and probably strung out. Her mother never said she didn't think the photos were of her, she doesn't know, all she said was it could be her, that it does resemble her but they also acknowledge that the Amy they're used to was 8-9 years ago. They haven't come to a conclusion either way. I see the similarities but like Awsi said of course the odds are against it. One vs everybody.

*edit*

there aren't any other photos besides those two. there isn't any that showed her navel which would clear things up rather easily because of her tattoo

As I said, I wasn't saying it was definitely true that Amy had been found and declined contact.

I was just saying, that is the allegation (and the author of the article admits he hasn't been able independently to verify the claim).

SiberianKiss, since you know the family, what was the truth about the lawsuit that was dismissed. What 'witnesses' were the Bradleys found to have withheld from the case, do you know? And what was their alleged evidence about seeing Amy?

Can't find the link to the actual judgment anywhere.

well I don't know them personally, I just talk them via email at times.

the lawsuit was thrown out because of failure to mention 100 witnesses or so that said they saw "someone looking like Amy" alive and under no duress since her disappearance.

Oh? The lawsuit was dismissed in 2000, Amy vanished in 1998. In two years nobody could locate her with all these supposed sightings of somebody who "looked" like Amy? and none of them were able to say where she was? Were none of these 100 people interested in the $250,000 reward that went with any information leading to Amy's whereabouts? I'd like to see how credible these 100 witnesses are.

They also threw out the lawsuit on the grounds that ONLY three people reported seeing "someone looking like Amy" and under duress.

This is not true. not only did somebody report seeing somebody that looked like Amy, well that's not possible because this person didn't know anything about the Amy Bradley disappearance or who she was, he couldn't have claimed anybody looked like Amy because he never heard of her. What he did know was the woman who came up to him in the brothel and said "my name is amy bradley and i need help, etc etc" much different than what the grounds of tossing the lawsuit out claimed. there were also other credible witnesses.

Here's the website I mentioned, with a posting from the executive editor on September 19, 2005:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=78783

"The Bradleys have reviewed the information which was developed here ( and which had previously been the subject of some discussion with others ), on the subject of whether or not "Jas," the escort/companion pictured on a vacation resort for adults only, was actually their daughter Amy Lynn Bradley.

We have had a frank and courteous discussion about the subject, and they are obviously the most expert in what their long-missing daughter really looked like, and how she might have aged over the seven years and six months since she disappeared.

Mrs. Bradley in particular feels very strongly that "Jas", as previously pictured here, does not bear a close enough resemblance to her missing daughter to be a valid lead for any continuing investigation."

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The conspiracy stuff includes contradiction or alternate theories, virtually by necessity to explain different aspects. One theory is the captors are stupid so it's hardly surprising they post pictures of an abducted girl on a website. The other theory is they only take pictures that don't show her tattoos. See what I mean? Which is it, dunces or strategically clever? I don't see how it can be both. If they go out of their way to conceal the tattoos, presumably to hide that it's Amy, why not change her hair color, or put on a wig, or provide a facial angle that makes it look nothing like Amy?

I'd like to know more about the sailor's story. Like Dark Dante indicated in the Brad Bishop thread, claims like this carry much less weight when the people don't know each other. The guy could be looking for publicity. Or he could be a nutcase. The girl could legitimately have been trying to escape, and used a high profile name thinking it would cause alarm and help her chances. Countless permutations. That it happened as described and truly was Amy Bradley, is one I wouldn't put much stock in.

Maybe the kidnappers know that they have Amy at a location where it would be easy to quickly move Amy and hide her somewhere if the authorities came looking or they have Amy at a location that doesn't have a good extradition treaty with the U.S. so they don't have as much to fear either way and maybe that could explain why they don't care if Amy's pic is out there. Where is the location the sailor allegedly saw Amy?

It could help clear up the veracity of the sailor's story if he could have identified the woman he saw in a picture lineup or something. I mean when that sailor talked to Amy's family they must've asked him if the girl he saw looked like Amy's pics. That must have been done, right?

If you show pics of 10 to 20 different women and he can pic out the girl he saw as Amy Bradley that would lend a lot more credibility to his story.

if Amy Bradley was kidnapped and forced into prostitution, she's probably been held by many different people and shuffled around so much, whoever took those pictures probably doesn't know her story and she's just another woman off the streets as far as they're concerned, who knows?

I found this story on my local news station, and as I was reading I noticed some of the details were just like the Amy Bradley case. I was not sure if it was Amy or not from the Dr. Phil Show photos. I hope they find her one day.
Here is the story from WFTV:

http://www.wftv.com/news/13526426/detail.html

Wow. Thanks for the link. I see the similarities in the cases, too. It really makes you wonder....

Maybe her dad or family should set up a "rendevous" with "Jas" and get some answers

This whole case is completely baffling. I must say, if she was abducted and became a so-called "white slave," her captors must have been very sneaky. It seems more plausible that she was killed by the musician who flirted with her. Still, nothing is set in stone.

1-If she was enslaved, and that's a big 'if', how were captors able to get her without being seen? How did they enter the Bradley family's room without being seen? Also, why didn't other passengers on ship see Amy leave with some shady men? The UM segment makes no mention of her been seen on the ship after her disappearance. That begs the question, did she fall to her death or did she leave the ship safely?

2-If she was at a nightclub on the ship, there's a chance that she was drinking. One thing could have led to another, Amy could have accidentally fallen off the ship while she was intoxicated.

3-It's still strange to me that Amy's brother said that the musician on the ship knew what had happened to Amy, even though only Amy's family knew of her disappearance. That alone makes him suspect.

1-If she was enslaved, and that's a big 'if', how were captors able to get her without being seen? How did they enter the Bradley family's room without being seen? Also, why didn't other passengers on ship see Amy leave with some shady men? The UM segment makes no mention of her been seen on the ship after her disappearance. That begs the question, did she fall to her death or did she leave the ship safely?


a. I believe that Amy went willingly to see her captors.
b. I don;t know how you tell "shady men" from anyone else on the boat? These guys probably looked like any other tourist on the boat.
c. If a date rape drug of some sort was used, they could have moved her off the boat upright and concious. Amy would have looked like a girl drunk or having fun with a boy.
d. If I remember, Amy was a small girl. Pretty easy to transport in a blanket or case of some sort.
e. It should not be ruled out that the kidnappers may be members of the ships crew.


2-If she was at a nightclub on the ship, there's a chance that she was drinking. One thing could have led to another, Amy could have accidentally fallen off the ship while she was intoxicated.

I'm afraid that may be the most likely scenario.:(

3-It's still strange to me that Amy's brother said that the musician on the ship knew what had happened to Amy, even though only Amy's family knew of her disappearance. That alone makes him suspect.

Perhapss.

1. It's quite possible that he may have witnessed Amy falling off by accident, and was too frightened to say anything. Perhaps he feared some immigration consequences.
2. It's possible that the musician has a criminal record of some sort. Perhaps he gave extasy to Amy or was dealing drugs.
3. If Amy was kidnapped, he may have been a "spotter". Someone who find easy targets for the kidnappers.
4. Perhaps he some sort of gigolo. Amy may have been one of his victims. Maybe he tried to rape her and she fell accidently or intentionally.

This case has always baffled me as well. As mystery lovers, sometimes I think we have a habit of wanting there to be something in a story that simply isn't there. I'm not discounting the sex-slavery idea, but it is completely possible, if not likely, that she simply fell of the balcony.

Falling off the balcony theory: It was well documented that Amy and her brother stayed out late drinking at the ship's nightclub, and the brother has stated that they drank a lot. Amy was seen sleeping on the balcony around 5am by her father (can't remember the precise time). Thirty minutes or so later, she's gone. A lot has been made that she was afraid of the side of the boat, but if you're drunk, or even sleep walking, you never know. Maybe she woke up to light a cigarette (she was a smoker), and was leaning on the balcony and simply fell. Apparently this happens frequently on cruise ships. One other thing I noticed after watching the segment again: Amy's dad said he woke up at 5:30 am and saw the lower part of Amy's body on a lounge chair (this of course doesn't necessarily mean that she was sleeping). Also, he said that when he woke up the door was shut, "because if it had been open I would have closed it." Makes sense, but in addition to memory issues, I find it notable that he randomly woke up twice in the middle of the night; this says that, perhaps, the door was NOT closed, in that there was enough noise from the outside to wake him up twice. Additionally, Amy's brother commented that she said, herself, that she wasn't feeling well when she went out on the balcony (she felt it was due to sea sickness), but it gives rise to the possibility that she had been given something drug wise, or that she was incredibly drunk. I know when I've had way too much to drink it feels like sea sickness. Just something else worth mentioning. This is not a flashy idea, but it seems probable.

Foul Play Theory:
What makes me wonder about the falling off the balcony theory (and it's not a lot) is that her dad claims that the door to the balcony was closed when he noticed Amy sleeping, and open when Amy was gone. This suggests that she opened the door to come into the room. Well, first, he could have been mistaken in his memory; second, she could have opened the door and gone back out to the balcony (perhaps her cigs were in the room and she went in to get them and then then went back out. They also point out that her cigs were missing, and theorize that this meant that she left the room with them. Could be, or she could have had the pack in her hand when she fell over.

Regardless, I think the way the cruise management handled the issue was horrendous. They didn't want to "disturb or alarm" the guests by making an announcement before the ship docked. One would think that, when a young woman can't be found by her family, the ship would go on lock down, at least to make sure she was still on the boat. By the time they made the announcement and supposedly searched hundreds of rooms, most of the people on the ship had gotten off of it. Ridiculous.

The witnesses, as many have stated, are always suspect; the army guy story is intriguing, but what baffles me is that he's basing this claim after several years had passed. I have no doubt that a woman came up to him asking for help, but for him to remember what she said her name was, several years after it happened? I just don't know. I mean, the name could have been similar sounding, and when he read about the case, [I]thought[I] that she had said Amy Bradley. You know what I mean?

I would be interested in knowing if the band member (the one people point to as the suspect) was given a lie detector test, had an alibi, etc. I would like to think that he was questioned and the police concluded he wasn't involved.

Regardless, this is a horrible case, and I feel very sorry for her family. I contacted them via email several months ago, because they apparently live only 20 mins from where I live, just to express my sympathies. Her mother responded, and said that there have been no new leads or updates for years, but that she feels that Amy is somewhere in Venezuela or Central America, being held against her will... Obviously there must be some info she has to make her feel this way.

My prayers go out to them.

Regardless, I think the way the cruise management handled the issue was horrendous. They didn't want to "disturb or alarm" the guests by making an announcement before the ship docked. One would think that, when a young woman can't be found by her family, the ship would go on lock down, at least to make sure she was still on the boat

1. Keep in mind that she is "only missing". Strange as it sounds that may not be serious enough to warrant that kind of security response.

2. Ship security and police have a tendency to be extremely inexperienced and lackluster in general. Want to commit a crime do it on a cruise boat? Do it on a crusie boat?

Matt C, A few questions I have?

1. What law enforcement has jurisdiction over this case?
2. What class of ship was the cruise ship? (I'm considering doing a google search to see what the layout of the ship was)
3. Has a "john" or prostitute ever come forward to say that they worked with or was serviced by Amy?


Amy is somewhere in Venezuela or Central America, being held against her will

More likely to be in Southeast Asia, where young Caucasian women are like gold to slave brothels. In Latin America you can find different types of women for prostitution. But in Asia, non-Asian women are scarce for prostitution. Any brothel that has an caucasian prostitute to over instead of Asian prostitutes is going to make a killing.

Mastermind: Thanks for posting a reply to my comments on Amy Bradley. I have gotten all of my info by doing research online, so I don't really have the inside scoop; I did get an email from Amy's mom, and all she said regarding new information on the case was that they suspect she is in Venezuela or Latin America, and I'm assuming they have reason to believe that.

As far as your questions:

1: The ship was owned by a Dutch company if I recall correctly, so the jurisdiction falls within the home country; however, if the crime involves a US citizen, the US FBI can get involved, and probably did.
2: I'm not sure, but I do remember that the UM segment mentioned that there were 99 rooms on the ship.
3: As far as I know, no John or prostitute has ever come forward. The eyewitness accounts have all occurred years after her disappearance, and include an army guy who says he was approached by a woman who asked for help while he was visiting a brothel in Aruba (I think), and that the woman said her name was "Amy Bradley." The witness came forward three years after she went missing. Another couple say that they saw a woman who looked like Amy being escorted by two men on the beach, and they were able to describe her tattoos accurately. Someone said they saw someone who looked like her in San Fransisco, of all places, being "handled" by two men.

Finally, as was mentioned on the UM segment, a woman on the ship claimed she saw Amy in the early morning hours (around the time she went missing) walking with the Bass player of the ship's band, up some stairs.

I think you are right that there really is virtually no evidence to prove or disprove anything. How frustrating right?

Thanks, matt.

1: The ship was owned by a Dutch company if I recall correctly, so the jurisdiction falls within the home country; however, if the crime involves a US citizen, the US FBI can get involved, and probably did.

I was afraid of that answer. A jurisdictrional snafu. Which probably didn't hep an already difficulty case. :(

1. God only knows who the Netherlands police sent over to investigate, if they even went that far. If they sent anyone, it would be one investigator that that probably just wanted to get a free vacation. They most likely sent the Aruban police with some adjunct investigator from the Dutch Embassy. I think the Netherlands still keep an army division in Aruba as well.

2. The potential abduction angle would have necessitated the appearance of the FBI. But once the kidnapping angle was exhausted, how much was there exposure in this case? There has to be a file on Amy's disappearance with the FBI, so some sqad supervisor's name is associated and responsible for the disappearance. Someone has to look at that open case on his record.

Can someone please explain where this photo came from? Did someone just send it to the family anonymously?

Also, I am intrigued by the photo even if not convinced. Look at those distinctive cheekbones.

Can someone please explain where this photo came from? Did someone just send it to the family anonymously?

Also, I am intrigued by the photo even if not convinced. Look at those distinctive cheekbones.

The photo(s) were found on an Escort site by someone whom then alerted the family.

Old thread I know, but I wanted to post a reply since no one did. It's nearly 15 years since the day she vanished. I don't follow the human trafficking theory as it takes too many people not to talk, especially with the media attention and reward money; as the saying goes 'two can keep a secret if one is dead'. She would have surfaced by now if she was still alive in the sex trade. Only one person was involved in her disappearance in my opinion.

I read somewhere that they found a jaw bone that it's speculated to be Amy's, can anyone confirm this is true or not?

(Btw, my first post and probably one of many. I never knew such a forum existed.)

Your photo is no longer here, but if yore talking about the "Jas" photo they do seem to be one and the same person. Poor Girl.

I remember this story and feeling bad for the family, but from a different perspective. My two cents?

I worked for a cruise line for three years, and I can tell you right off the bat that the chance she went overboard is a lot higher than people want to admit. Even a trained lifeguard like Amy would have found falling from a balcony unnerving-we are talking the equivalent of a several-story building even on the lowest accessible deck for a passenger. "Close to shore" for a deep-draft cruise liner is still far enough out to challenge a swimmer. Ships also attract oceanic dwellers who follow looking for food-even the "greenest" ships release organic waste. I have seen a feeding frenzy off the side more than once, and big predators were included.

As for the musician angle, I also know that the cruise line she was traveling with has one of the strictest non-fraternization policies-and enforcement of those policies-in the industry. This includes monitoring the crew areas via patrol and camera, besides the fact that there's people working 24 hours a day and getting walked in on is easy. The idea of her sneaking of with a crewmember is not impossible, but pretty tough.

Sorry, but I can't buy into the "falling overboard" theory on this one. It's just too neat for my liking. Furthermore, it's the theory which is most convenient for the cruise line company.

Two passengers saw Amy riding the elevator to the top deck at 6 am, with a man named "Yellow" who was part of the cruise ship's band. Once they realized she was missing, Amy's parents asked the staff not to lower the gang plank to let people off, but they did so anyways. Not to mention the various Amy Bradley sightings; in 1998 witnesses accurately described her tattoos, and in 1999 a witness said Amy identified herself by name and asked for help.

There's definitely more to her disappearance than the idea that she simply fell overboard.

I'm not going to throw out the falling overboard theory entirely, as it's possible, but I doubt that's what happened here. Amy was terrified of being near the railing-- to the extent that she wouldn't even put her hands on it. Yes, she'd had alcohol. We don't know exactly how much she drank, and that doesn't necessarily mean it would cause her to start going near the railing. I think it's likely she was assaulted while going out for a smoke, since she took her cigarettes with her. And it is extremely shady that she was seen with the band member around this time (by more than one person). My view is that if she's in the water, it's because someone put her there and it was no accident.

Aren't the railings on cruise ships around 4 feet? Amy Bradley is 5'7. Even a drunk person would be hard pressed to go overboard, let alone someone who's sober.

Aren't the railings on cruise ships around 4 feet? Amy Bradley is 5'7. Even a drunk person would be hard pressed to go overboard, let alone someone who's sober.
I've never been on a cruise, but from what I've seen of photos and videos, they do appear to be pretty high. And I can't imagine Amy would go fooling around near/on them, even if intoxicated. That's part of why I don't think the falling overboard theory is what actually happened.

I must be the only one who thinks the photo of the escort looks nothing like Amy Bradley.

I must be the only one who thinks the photo of the escort looks nothing like Amy Bradley.

FWIW, I can see where there are some resemblances, but I don't think it looks much like her either.

Plus her style of hair and makeup look to be from the 80s. Or at least from 5 years before Amy went missing, if the woman was just holding onto an old style. IMO, that photo was taken before Amy ever went missing.

If it were Amy, she would have had to grow her hair out that long, which would have taken a couple years, then dyed and permed it, then done her makeup in a 1980s style. It doesn't really make sense, even if it was done to camouflage Amy's true appearance.

I must be the only one who thinks the photo of the escort looks nothing like Amy Bradley.

You're not. I don't think it does, either. The nose structures are completely different. And Tracy makes a great point: Amy's hair was very short. For her to grow it to the length seen on the woman in the photograph, that'd be well over two years. Probably closer to three or four. I too think the photo was probably taken before Amy went missing based on the hairstyle.

In fairness, Amy could have been wearing a wig. In fact, even it isn't Amy, it's always kinda looked to me that the woman who posed for that photo was wearing a wig. Something about that hairdo just didn't look real to me.

For the record, I still lean towards the woman in the photo not being Amy, but think there are too many suspicious elements for me to believe she accidentally fell off the ship.

You're not. I don't think it does, either. The nose structures are completely different. And Tracy makes a great point: Amy's hair was very short. For her to grow it to the length seen on the woman in the photograph, that'd be well over two years. Probably closer to three or four. I too think the photo was probably taken before Amy went missing based on the hairstyle.

Never thought about the hairstyle, but that's an excellent point. Could have been taken well before Amy even disappeared.

IMO the only credible witness to have seen Amy was that lady in the bathroom with her. She was interviewed on the episode for Vanished with Beth Halloway.

After looking at the pic again, I can see where it could be her but I'm definitely nowhere close to being convinced that it is her. Falling overboard is always a possibility but I don't think that is what happened in this case. This case is a hard one since there are some clues but none seem to be concrete or proven without a shadow of doubt attached to them. This case is really baffling and it sucks that the ship couldn't keep the ship locked down temporarily to search before anyone got off the ship at port.

The Son of a ex coworker of my dad disappeared off a cruise ship. Like with Bradley, it became like a mystery but then a security video came up and showed that he fell off the ship and drowned. It it wasn't for the tape, the case would have been exactly like the Bradley case. So my take now is that she fell off and they just probably didn't have that many security cameras before, so the evidence was missed.

The Son of a ex coworker of my dad disappeared off a cruise ship. Like with Bradley, it became like a mystery but then a security video came up and showed that he fell off the ship and drowned. It it wasn't for the tape, the case would have been exactly like the Bradley case. So my take now is that she fell off and they just probably didn't have that many security cameras before, so the evidence was missed.

Her falling overboard is simply a theory, but there is nothing to suggest that she did. Also, she was pretty short and the railings would've come up to over 2/3 her height. Even an intoxicated person of her height would have a hard time going over. Not to mention that the ship was extremely close to shore at the time of her disappearance, and she was afraid to go near the railings.

Falling overboard is always a possibility but def not sure in this case. The more time that passes without much in the form of clues or a break in the case, the more I say maybe she did fall overboard. How easy is it to fall off a cruise ship?

Falling overboard is always a possibility but def not sure in this case. The more time that passes without much in the form of clues or a break in the case, the more I say maybe she did fall overboard. How easy is it to fall off a cruise ship?
Haven been on a few cruises myself as recent as last dec I would have said it was darn near impossible to fall overboard. But I recently watched a documentary on rescues at sea which included an intoxicated woman that fell overboard a cruise ship. Incredibly she was saved but it was about 30 mins from the time she fell over to the time the captain was notified. From there they also showcased many others that fell overboard and died. ThIs is what makes Amy's story such a mystery. There is so much that can go wrong while cruising if you aren't careful. You can get left at port. Lost or even fall overboard and late early morning there is usually very little amount of people out and about to notice.

I generally felt falling overboard was the least likely scenario but this case has many unanswered questions. It seems like if she fell overboard they would have found her since they weren't too far from shore from what it sounds like.

Tossed overboard is probably more likely. Hopefully she is still alive, but like someone else already mentioned, can't the authorities do anything?

Her falling overboard is simply a theory, but there is nothing to suggest that she did. Also, she was pretty short and the railings would've come up to over 2/3 her height. Even an intoxicated person of her height would have a hard time going over. Not to mention that the ship was extremely close to shore at the time of her disappearance, and she was afraid to go near the railings.

I don't think anything but the height of the railing is a case closed thing to the idea that she didn't fall. Especially about them being extremely close to the shore, since that is really a bad measurement for anything in that regards.

At this point in time I lean more towards foul play instead of falling overboard but this case is such a mystery. Its like she vanished with no real proof of anything. The pic comparison was hard to say one way or another. It could have been her but it may not have been her. Hard to prove either way. Hopefully they solve it one day.

I'd like to say that I dont think it is likely that she fell over the railings. Perhaps someone did throw her over as it doesnt seem possible to me that someone of her size could fall over unless she was sitting on the railings or leaning right over time, which it seems unlikely as she was afriad.

As for the prostitution angle. I did read a very intresting book years ago about a lady from Newcastle England who was offered a job in Amsterdam as a teacher and the moment she landed she was greeted by a female who took her to car were a male took her passport and told her she was now a prositute. I believe that the lady was held agaisnt her will for 7 years while police where looking for her on behalf of her family. She states that during this time she serviced corrupt police officer so she didnt trust any one to dare enough to escape. She eventually did escape and still refused to speak to police for fear of being taken back to her capters. Whats intresting also is that victom had a lesbain relationship with the lady who helped kidnap her for a few years believing she was also in fear of her life and did what she had to do to survive.

So having read that book I can believe that Amy could be held against her will by pimps and its only a matter of time till she escapes, is let go due to been too old or is sadley killed. In the book the lady mentions that once a hooker became too old, didnt make enough money or for what ever reason wasnt need she bacame part of Snuff movies.

Very sad that things like this go on in the world and that it can go unseen, uncovered and unquestions for however long it lasts. It would be intresting to know if any other ladys have went missing and suspected of been taken into prositution in the area.

As some one stated the people who work on the ship could be the sellectors of the girls and get paid for deliveries. After reading that book I believe it is possible and I just hope Amy gets out alive.

wow... that's just horrible! milking on a case... talk about being obsessive!!!

Posted my opinion about this book on another thread here: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=4909905&postcount=31

I really believe the band member is guilty of something.

Then again if you are drunk enough you lose your inhibitions.
She could have gotten too brave and fallen off the ship.

I doubt this case will ever be solved.

The pic that surfaced a while back im not very sure that's her. The jaw looks too different to me. This is a tough case to solve. The band member seems like a prime suspect.

Ah, Find Amy! I was wondering when you would grace this board with your rather dubious presence. :lol:

Hopefully they will eventually find amy.

Amy Bradley left her family's stateroom at 5:30am, a half hour before docking at Curacao, barefoot, and with only her cigarettes and lighter. No shoes, no wallet...I think she was going to visit someone in another cabin. You can't leave the ship to tour while you are barefoot and do not have your passport and wallet with you. I think she went to see "Yellow" again in his cabin, and remember he was a musician, with access to large musical instrument cases. It wouldn't be far-fetched to think she might have been drugged and taken off the ship in one of those. I believe she was targeted and the proof is ALL her shipboard photos were missing! Red Alert. Either her captor was in some of the pictures with her and that's why they were removed, or the photos were given to someone who ultimately paid for her. This is one situation I would rather be wrong than right, but it ties in.


a. I believe that Amy went willingly to see her captors.
b. I don;t know how you tell "shady men" from anyone else on the boat? These guys probably looked like any other tourist on the boat.
c. If a date rape drug of some sort was used, they could have moved her off the boat upright and concious. Amy would have looked like a girl drunk or having fun with a boy.
d. If I remember, Amy was a small girl. Pretty easy to transport in a blanket or case of some sort.
e. It should not be ruled out that the kidnappers may be members of the ships crew.



I'm afraid that may be the most likely scenario.:(



Perhapss.

1. It's quite possible that he may have witnessed Amy falling off by accident, and was too frightened to say anything. Perhaps he feared some immigration consequences.
2. It's possible that the musician has a criminal record of some sort. Perhaps he gave extasy to Amy or was dealing drugs.
3. If Amy was kidnapped, he may have been a "spotter". Someone who find easy targets for the kidnappers.
4. Perhaps he some sort of gigolo. Amy may have been one of his victims. Maybe he tried to rape her and she fell accidently or intentionally.

I don't know why they always theorize someone accidentally FELL overboard. It's darn near impossible unless you've opted to stand on something. I'm shorter than Amy, but my experience has been that the railings are wicked high. I don't think I could accidentally fall overboard on a cruise ship if I ran full speed into the railing.

I don't know why they always theorize someone accidentally FELL overboard. It's darn near impossible unless you've opted to stand on something. I'm shorter than Amy, but my experience has been that the railings are wicked high. I don't think I could accidentally fall overboard on a cruise ship if I ran full speed into the railing.

But there ARE people who have managed to fall overboard. I'm not saying that is what happened to Amy, but it has happened before. That's why it has to be considered as a possibility in these kinds of cases.

But there ARE people who have managed to fall overboard. I'm not saying that is what happened to Amy, but it has happened before. That's why it has to be considered as a possibility in these kinds of cases.

Actually, very few cruise deaths are the results of accidental falls overboard.

And most of those involve someone being drunk and careless.

http://www.cruiseshipdeaths.com

I'm still having a hard time believing Amy was taken off the ship and sold into slavery. All of these witnesses who claim to have seen her, have seen her out in public, with the exception of the guy who saw her at the brothel. The brothel sighting is somewhat unbelievable IMO, because the guy claims the woman came up to him (not around anyone else) and begged him for help. He says he told her there was a quick escape route and that it would take 5 minutes for her to reach where he was staying, but the woman quickly refused and just kept saying she was Amy Bradley and needed help. That just makes no sense. In this brothel setting, she wasn't around any captors, it was just her and this guy. She could have easily made an attempt to escape. The other sightings (in the mall bathroom and the beach) she was out in public. Sure she was probably fearful of her captors, but she could have made an attempt to escape or seek help, but didn't. And I didn't even know about this until I just read it from another forum, but when the Bradley's tried suing the cruise line company, the courts threw it out and stated, "Both lawsuits were dismissed in October 2000 when the trial judge found the plaintiffs had "perpetrated a fraud on the court" by giving false answers to the defense in depositions. Specifically, the court concluded the Bradleys had intentionally concealed the existence of over 100 witnesses who reported seeing Amy living freely and under no duress at various times after her disappearance." First time I ever heard anything like that.

I still tend to think Amy unfortunately died sometime before the cruise ship docked. Whether or not she was murdered is the real mystery, IMO.

ETA: Someone already brought up the dismissal of the lawsuit earlier in this thread. And, IMO, I think the Bradley's may be retroactively linking things that happened on the cruise ship (that probably seemed innocuous at the time), and remembering it in a far more sinister light. For example, one of the waiters wanted to take her to a nightclub when they docked, but Amy said she didn't want to go because she thought the guy was "weird". At the time it was probably nothing, but since her disappearance, and the rampant claims about sex slavery, the new thought is now that the waiter must have wanted her to go to the nightclub so he could abduct her easier there. The same goes for "Yellow", who told Amy's brother Brad how sorry he was that she went missing. Amy's family thinks this is a suspicious remark, considering Amy was just reported missing, and they don't see how he could have known that. But according to "Yellow", crew members knocked on his door shortly after 6 a.m. to see if he had seen her, and they even searched his room. This is probably how he found out about her disappearance so early.

I just don't think the woman in that photo is her. The nose structures are completely different, if you study multiple photos of Amy and then compare them to the photo of the woman some believe to be her.

This whole sex slave ring that only seeks pretty American women seems somewhat racist, and almost reminds me of the satanic panic from the 80's. It literally makes no sense as to why only American women are targeted...wouldn't these captors want women from more impoverished countries so they could manipulate with money to control them? And wouldn't an American woman be somewhat ineffective in a foreign country to a potential "john" if she doesn't even speak the language? It just doesn't make sense to me.

I still think the band member is incredibly shady. He was seen by multiple witnesses walking with her before she vanished. He knew that Amy was missing long before anyone else did. I don't recall if he approached the brother before or after the ship paged her, but a ship paging someone is just a simple call for that person to report, not an alert that they're missing and the worst should be expected. Therefore, it is extremely suspicious that the guy said, ''Hey, sorry to hear about your sister'' when he did.

This and reports of him dancing too close to her and her needing to tell him to back off make me wonder if he made advances, they fought, and somehow she got flung over the side, either in the struggle or on purpose.

She was seen walking with him and if I recall correctly, none of these witnesses said that she looked extremely intoxicated, and certainly not to the point that she would go wandering up to the railing and fall over in a stupor. Not to mention, Amy was terrified of going near the railing. I've been intoxicated before and even a bunch of alcohol getting rid of inhibitions doesn't make me go wandering over to the things I fear, so even if she was drinking, I doubt she accidentally fell overboard or was horsing around near the railing due to liquor.

This whole sex slave ring that only seeks pretty American women seems somewhat racist, and almost reminds me of the satanic panic from the 80's. It literally makes no sense as to why only American women are targeted...wouldn't these captors want women from more impoverished countries so they could manipulate with money to control them? And wouldn't an American woman be somewhat ineffective in a foreign country to a potential "john" if she doesn't even speak the language? It just doesn't make sense to me.

Not to mention that prostitution is legal in that part of the world. There is really no need to kidnap women and force them into it. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but an American woman traveling with her family who would quickly realize she was gone and probably call the authorities would not be the best target.

I still think the band member is incredibly shady. He was seen by multiple witnesses walking with her before she vanished. He knew that Amy was missing long before anyone else did. I don't recall if he approached the brother before or after the ship paged her, but a ship paging someone is just a simple call for that person to report, not an alert that they're missing and the worst should be expected. Therefore, it is extremely suspicious that the guy said, ''Hey, sorry to hear about your sister'' when he did.

This and reports of him dancing too close to her and her needing to tell him to back off make me wonder if he made advances, they fought, and somehow she got flung over the side, either in the struggle or on purpose.

"Yellow" does seem pretty suspicious. But according to him, crew members knocked on his door shortly after 6 a.m. and asked if he knew where Amy was, and he told them he didn't, and they even searched his room for her. So this could be how he knew about her disappearance before it was known throughout the ship. I would definitely think it's more likely that she was thrown overboard as opposed to taken off the ship and sold into a slavery ring.

This whole sex slave ring that only seeks pretty American women seems somewhat racist, and almost reminds me of the satanic panic from the 80's. It literally makes no sense as to why only American women are targeted...wouldn't these captors want women from more impoverished countries so they could manipulate with money to control them? And wouldn't an American woman be somewhat ineffective in a foreign country to a potential "john" if she doesn't even speak the language? It just doesn't make sense to me.


Um. How do I put this delicately? People rarely hire prostitutes for their conversational skills. If she's in a brothel, she wouldn't need to say a word, the madam would handle all of that.

That being said, I don't think she is alive. And I think the band guy is responsible for whatever happened.

Um. How do I put this delicately? People rarely hire prostitutes for their conversational skills. If she's in a brothel, she wouldn't need to say a word, the madam would handle all of that.

I understand that. But some "johns" would be likely to try to start up a conversation at some point with the girl, which would become awkward if the girl didn't speak the language. And you wouldn't necessarily get into a discussion about what "services" you would want out of a girl with the madam, that would be done with the girl herself.

I understand that. But some "johns" would be likely to try to start up a conversation at some point with the girl, which would become awkward if the girl didn't speak the language. And you wouldn't necessarily get into a discussion about what "services" you would want out of a girl with the madam, that would be done with the girl herself.

The only reason I know this is because I've seen that Cathouse: The Series show on HBO before, which features the daily operations of a brothel.

Customers do call ahead and ask about the particulars of the prostitutes and what services they are willing to perform with the madam, which fits with what Necco previously mentioned. Now, this show features a legal brothel in Nevada, where almost everyone speaks English and the prostitutes voluntarily choose their occupations. I cannot imagine how illicit, unregulated establishments (which often enslave and violate the human rights of trafficking victims that may not speak the home country's language) probably operate.

Additionally, a good number of the men patronizing illicit establishments are NOT looking for conversation. I would be willing to wager a percentage of them probably fit the profile of a rapist.

The only reason I know this is because I've seen that Cathouse: The Series show on HBO before, which features the daily operations of a brothel.

Customers do call ahead and ask about the particulars of the prostitutes and what services they are willing to perform with the madam, which fits with what Necco previously mentioned. Now, this show features a legal brothel in Nevada, where almost everyone speaks English and the prostitutes voluntarily choose their occupations. I cannot imagine how illicit, unregulated establishments (which often enslave and violate the human rights of trafficking victims that may not speak the home country's language) probably operate.

Additionally, a good number of the men patronizing illicit establishments are NOT looking for conversation. I would be willing to wager a percentage of them probably fit the profile of a rapist.

If I'm remembering correctly, the escort site that featured the profile of the woman "Jas" was a legal establishment within the country. But anyway, I don't think all of these guys are just waiting to sit down with these girls and talk about T.S. Eliot, but I think some of them would have tried to make small talk. And if there were customers who went there for the explicit purpose of seeing an American girl, this would increase the odds that at some point some of the men would have either known English, or were Americans themselves. Thereby increasing the chances of Amy possibly being discovered and rescued. Maybe I'm over analyzing it, I don't know. It's just strange to me that these people would be that stupid to advertise a missing American woman who they worked so hard to conceal all of these years. And I think I've read on here that the anonymous guy who e-mailed the Bradley's the picture of "Jas" is someone who actually browses these foreign escort sites trying to find women that look like missing women from the States. It wouldn't be that hard if you think about it, to come up with several possible matches to missing women.

ETA: http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/hyscience_dr_ph.php

There is a link to a website that the anonymous guy sent the Bradley's on this website. It actually includes the e-mail sent to the Bradley's verbatim. It seems like this company is legit, and that they cater to tourists looking for "sultry Caribbean beauties".

If I'm remembering correctly, the escort site that featured the profile of the woman "Jas" was a legal establishment within the country. But anyway, I don't think all of these guys are just waiting to sit down with these girls and talk about T.S. Eliot, but I think some of them would have tried to make small talk. And if there were customers who went there for the explicit purpose of seeing an American girl, this would increase the odds that at some point some of the men would have either known English, or were Americans themselves. Thereby increasing the chances of Amy possibly being discovered and rescued. Maybe I'm over analyzing it, I don't know. It's just strange to me that these people would be that stupid to advertise a missing American woman who they worked so hard to conceal all of these years. And I think I've read on here that the anonymous guy who e-mailed the Bradley's the picture of "Jas" is someone who actually browses these foreign escort sites trying to find women that look like missing women from the States. It wouldn't be that hard if you think about it, to come up with several possible matches to missing women.

ETA: http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/hyscience_dr_ph.php

There is a link to a website that the anonymous guy sent the Bradley's on this website. It actually includes the e-mail sent to the Bradley's verbatim. It seems like this company is legit, and that they cater to tourists looking for "sultry Caribbean beauties".

Totally agree with you that it wouldn't make much sense to publicly advertise a known missing woman who many presume to be a kidnapping victim. I think this man, however good his intentions may be, is mistaken.

Totally agree with you that it wouldn't make much sense to publicly advertise a known missing woman who many presume to be a kidnapping victim. I think this man, however good his intentions may be, is mistaken.

Meg, are you of the opinion that Amy never left the boat alive (be it by an accident or homicide)? Because that definitely seems the most likely thing to me. I've read varying accounts about how on the one hand Amy's brother said they were drinking heavily that night to where they didn't have that much. Obviously, if Amy was intoxicated, an accident would seem fairly likely. But then again you have this suspicious "Yellow" guy to account for. I think it's equally possible that Amy was murdered on the boat and thrown overboard.

Also, found is picture:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Amy%20Bradley/PosibleAmy.jpg

Posted in another forum, taken from the nightclub Carlos n Charlie's (where the waiter wanted to take Amy). This woman looks an awful lot like "Jas", IMO. Now I know it's very odd that it was taken the same place the waiter wanted to take Amy, but then again, I think it's entirely possible that "Jas" is simply a local woman who frequents the nightclub. She doesn't appear to be under any duress in that photo.

ETA: Here is the full photo, taken by some vacationers partying at Carlos n Charlie's:

http://i6.tinypic.com/1z5n0cw.jpg

I think this woman looks near identical to "Jas".

I agree that the woman VERY closely resembles "Jas".

Yes, I unfortunately don't think Amy actually disembarked. Now what happened to her exactly, I'm not sure.

"Yellow" does seem pretty suspicious. But according to him, crew members knocked on his door shortly after 6 a.m. and asked if he knew where Amy was, and he told them he didn't, and they even searched his room for her. So this could be how he knew about her disappearance before it was known throughout the ship. I would definitely think it's more likely that she was thrown overboard as opposed to taken off the ship and sold into a slavery ring.

The problem with this is that her father, Ron, last saw Amy between 5:15-5:30 A.M. in their room. When Ron woke up a little before six, he assumed Amy had gone up on deck to take pictures of the sun rising. He claimed he searched for her for about an hour before getting his wife. They both went to see the ship captain together. So how is it that Alister had crew members knocking at his door at six in the morning when Amy's father hadn't even reported her missing? He was still under the assumption his daughter was taking photographs somewhere on the upper level.

Either Alister made an innocent mistake about the time, or he is trying to establish himself an alibi because he was not in his room at six that morning but with Amy. Also, Amy's mother, Iva, claims the ship captain never even ordered a full-scale search. That did not happen until the FBI got on board a couple of days later. The captain ordered his crew to search only the common areas of the ship, not private cabins, or areas where only the crew would have had access. When the Bradley family got back on board, Iva even confronted the ship captain and accused him or lying about searching "everywhere" for Amy.

Were the crew members just more diligent than the captain and searched every private cabin, or did Alister lie? Did crew members ever search his room at all? So many questions unanswered in this story.

Regarding "Jas", the woman does bare a strong resemblance to Amy, especially the cheeks and chin, but the eye shape is off. Amy has down-turned eyes, and Jas's eyes turn up. No amount of cat-eyeliner or mascara is going to make them turn up, because make-up cannot alter the degree of one's outer canthus, just surgery.

The other thing is that Jas was listed on the "Affordable Adult Vacations" website as a "guest escort" on Margarita Island, from 2004 to January 2006. It seems she would go there for certain periods and then return. That is because in Curacao, the government requires that prostitutes register for three-month seasons and then stop working in the profession, or leave the island. That begs the question: what pimp would force his sex slave to register with false documents to the government just to disrupt her practice and be forced to leave to work on other islands? It's not like a sex slave needs documents for her pimp to force her to perform sex acts. Moreover, she would never have been put into a legal brothel in the first place.

There are only two explanations: Jas is not Amy, but just a lookalike that is legally working as a prostitute; or Amy is now "voluntarily" immersed in that culture and does not want to leave.

Amy Bradley information...


http://lookforamybradley.boards.net/board/2/board-public-view

Regarding "Jas", the woman does bare a strong resemblance to Amy, especially the cheeks and chin, but the eye shape is off. Amy has down-turned eyes, and Jas's eyes turn up. No amount of cat-eyeliner or mascara is going to make them turn up, because make-up cannot alter the degree of one's outer canthus, just surgery.

The other thing is that Jas was listed on the "Affordable Adult Vacations" website as a "guest escort" on Margarita Island, from 2004 to January 2006. It seems she would go there for certain periods and then return. That is because in Curacao, the government requires that prostitutes register for three-month seasons and then stop working in the profession, or leave the island. That begs the question: what pimp would force his sex slave to register with false documents to the government just to disrupt her practice and be forced to leave to work on other islands? It's not like a sex slave needs documents for her pimp to force her to perform sex acts. Moreover, she would never have been put into a legal brothel in the first place.

There are only two explanations: Jas is not Amy, but just a lookalike that is legally working as a prostitute; or Amy is now "voluntarily" immersed in that culture and does not want to leave.

I see a slight resemblance around the eyes and eyebrow area, but I see differences in their chin area. Their bone structure looks different to me. It's so strange.

The one thing that I can't get past with that photo is that the Jaz picture looks like it was taken in the 80s. You know how you can tell by looking at the lighting/film quality on old pics that they were from a certain era? That's the thing that puzzles me about the picture. I'm leaning toward the theory that Jaz isn't Amy. I wonder if anybody has ever managed to track Jaz down? The one thing I know for sure by looking at that picture is that it appears that Jaz has lived a rather rough life.

Seth, let it go.

At this point im not completely convinced its amy but there are some similarities that definitely make it worth investigating further. There are some resemblance between them so it makes you wonder

On what date did those Jas photos first appear online? Anyone know?

On what date did those Jas photos first appear online? Anyone know?

Amy's photograph appeared on the Venezuelan escort website between 2004 - 2005 - They took down the photos once the FBI started to investigate them.

At this point im not completely convinced its amy but there are some similarities that definitely make it worth investigating further. There are some resemblance between them so it makes you wonder

Hasn't it been examined in great detail by more than one expert?

http://i.imgur.com/LGsc0VI.jpg
Wishing Amy a Merry Christmas, wherever in the world she may be.

^^Is anyone else creeped out by this post?? ^^

^^Is anyone else creeped out by this post?? ^^
You're not the only one. I can see wishing her a Merry Christmas, but photoshopping her with Santa is very creepy.

Wow. That's pretty morbid.

You're not the only one. I can see wishing her a Merry Christmas, but photoshopping her with Santa is very creepy.

I don't think the poster photoshopped Amy in the pic with Santa. That exact image is on Amy's website. It's captioned "Amy Christmas 1997" and is on this page: http://www.amybradley.net/photos.htm

You're not the only one. I can see wishing her a Merry Christmas, but photoshopping her with Santa is very creepy.It's not photoshopped. It was Amy at Christmas time 1997. Hopefully she will be home soon. It's been long enough.

Website: forumsforamybradley.com For anyone who is interested.

Okay, I apologize. I have seen some disturbing posts on this forum lately, and jumped to conclusions.

Murkey and/or Find Amy is still desperate for people to talk about this case so that he or she can thrive on the attention they receive from it. Pay them no mind.

(And yeah; creepy post)

I also apologize.

Here's hoping she is found soon.

The forum seems to be a haven for those that believe Amy was abducted & has been held as a slave for the last 17 years & will not accept any other possibility/attack anybody who suggest any other alternative-there is even a thread on the site called 'The Trolls' dedicated to attacking anybody who puts forward a different perspective .

Here is a sample of the wild speculation & type of stuff on there-

Findingamy

I don't think Royal Caribbean would want the media to know they are associated with the escort resort that advertised a woman who was kidnapped from their cruise ship. Royal Caribbean's Vision of the Seas is very clearly promoted on the website for this escort group. I doubt Royal Caribbean wants passengers to know that Vision of the Seas is a floating whore house.

Amy could be seen almost anywhere. We don't know exactly where Amy is, but we do know of several places where she could possibly be seen. Our information comes from a variety of sources and this just provides some suggestions.

- Amy could be anywhere in the Caribbean or Venezuela. Her photographs appeared on the website for a Margarita Island resort, off the coast of Venezuela. She disappeared while her cruise ship was docking in Curacao and she was later seen on a Curacao beach. She has been seen in Barbados and other Caribbean locations. It is believed that Amy has been moved through the Caribbean on a private yacht. Customs and Immigration are not strict in many Caribbean harbors and marinas.

- Amy could be seen on the west coast of the Unites States as far north as Alaska. She was seen in San Francisco. Small airports would be likely transportation points.

- Amy could be seen on the east and west coasts of Florida and she could possibly be seen at any point in the Inland Waterway on the east coast. Yacht marinas and small airports would be potential locations where she could be seen.

- Amy could be seen in the Athens area or the Greek islands. Marinas or small airports would be possible locations.

- Amy could be seen in Spain or islands belonging to Spain. Marinas or small airports would be possible locations.

Amy may be moved through the Caribbean on a personal yacht. A personal yacht could be found almost anywhere from the Caribbean to New England, in the US. Yachts are common and could be at many private docks or small marinas.

There are reasons to believe that Amy could also be transported in private airplanes. This would explain why Amy and her handlers have never been seen in airports or going through normal Customs situations. Private airplanes in small airports provide a lot more flexibility than large airliners in commercial situations. By combining private yachts and private airplanes, Amy's captors are able to beat the system. They are able to take Amy across borders carrying smuggled contraband.

It's the same stuff they posted at their old forum, and have posted on any forum that will have them for the past five years or so. They say the same things over and over again.

They've also promised that new information will break that will make those of us who doubt the story see how wrong we were. I say bring it on. Let's see it. If you've got incredible new information that could help bring Amy home, then don't keep it to yourself.

It's the same stuff they posted at their old forum, and have posted on any forum that will have them for the past five years or so. They say the same things over and over again.

They've also promised that new information will break that will make those of us who doubt the story see how wrong we were. I say bring it on. Let's see it. If you've got incredible new information that could help bring Amy home, then don't keep it to yourself.

I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong & that she is still alive despite the horrors she will have gone through all these years & for her to reunited with her family. Last 'sighting' was March 2005-just a few months from being a decade ago. This case is as cold as it gets so if there is anything new it needs to be out there.

I've been following this case closely for many many years, and as much as I'd really love to believe she's somewhere out there, alive & simply being held captive, I don't think that's the case. I think there was foul play at the beginning of this mess, however, I don't believe that someone or even a group of people have gone to such extensive lengths to hold Amy captive for 15+ years. If you think about this case from a logical standpoint, it would seem far more troublesome to go to such extreme lengths to hold this one girl hostage for so long. Pardon the way this sounds- but, whats so special about Amy? (I mean absolutely NO disrespect by that). Why Amy? Realistically, the notion of this girl being moved by handlers, private yachts, private jets, risking customs checks, risking being found out, it all just seems very far fetched to me. Criminals generally don't like to call attention to themselves. Many of the scenarios presented would suggest attention being called to their behavior. What's more likely, is that Amy was taken off the ship maybe against her will, maybe not, held captive, maybe even used in human trafficking. The "bad guys" would get what they needed from her, and "dispose" of her. End of story. No "handlers", no sightings all over the world, no private yachts and jets.... Just my opinion.

I've been following this case closely for many many years, and as much as I'd really love to believe she's somewhere out there, alive & simply being held captive, I don't think that's the case. I think there was foul play at the beginning of this mess, however, I don't believe that someone or even a group of people have gone to such extensive lengths to hold Amy captive for 15+ years. If you think about this case from a logical standpoint, it would seem far more troublesome to go to such extreme lengths to hold this one girl hostage for so long. Pardon the way this sounds- but, whats so special about Amy? (I mean absolutely NO disrespect by that). Why Amy? Realistically, the notion of this girl being moved by handlers, private yachts, private jets, risking customs checks, risking being found out, it all just seems very far fetched to me. Criminals generally don't like to call attention to themselves. Many of the scenarios presented would suggest attention being called to their behavior. What's more likely, is that Amy was taken off the ship maybe against her will, maybe not, held captive, maybe even used in human trafficking. The "bad guys" would get what they needed from her, and "dispose" of her. End of story. No "handlers", no sightings all over the world, no private yachts and jets.... Just my opinion.

Indeed-the whole point of sex trafficking is these people make money while spending as little as possible on the victims. The idea these people fly them around the world in private jets & stow them away on yachts-which could be inspected by coastguards at any time for decades is laughable on many different levels.

I've been following this case closely for many many years, and as much as I'd really love to believe she's somewhere out there, alive & simply being held captive, I don't think that's the case. I think there was foul play at the beginning of this mess, however, I don't believe that someone or even a group of people have gone to such extensive lengths to hold Amy captive for 15+ years. If you think about this case from a logical standpoint, it would seem far more troublesome to go to such extreme lengths to hold this one girl hostage for so long. Pardon the way this sounds- but, whats so special about Amy? (I mean absolutely NO disrespect by that). Why Amy? Realistically, the notion of this girl being moved by handlers, private yachts, private jets, risking customs checks, risking being found out, it all just seems very far fetched to me. Criminals generally don't like to call attention to themselves. Many of the scenarios presented would suggest attention being called to their behavior. What's more likely, is that Amy was taken off the ship maybe against her will, maybe not, held captive, maybe even used in human trafficking. The "bad guys" would get what they needed from her, and "dispose" of her. End of story. No "handlers", no sightings all over the world, no private yachts and jets.... Just my opinion.Very hard to disagree with that IMO. When you look back at any of these "sightings" there was never anything solid. I would like to believe that Amy will surface someday but realistically it doesn't look good at all.

Very hard to disagree with that IMO. When you look back at any of these "sightings" there was never anything solid. I would like to believe that Amy will surface someday but realistically it doesn't look good at all.
Agreed. There was a woman who was interviewed on Beth Holloway's "Vanished" who says she ran into a woman named Amy who said she was from the area Amy Bradley was from and was being harassed by men in Curacao. This is exactly the kind of sighting that would of course get the Bradleys' hopes up, but is just too far-fetched. I still think that she was probably thrown overboard and that the bass player needs to be looked at more.

I don't blame the Bradley family for looking into every avenue and maintaining hope. But they've unfortunately fallen prey to scammers and liars who want the reward money. Other eyewitness sightings also seem too far-fetched and unlikely. Even if these people spotted a young woman who looked like Amy (one man mentioned a woman on the beach), it seems impossible it was her. Just like the Elizabeth Campbell case in the convenience stores-- why would a kidnapper let their victim walk on the beach in public? They more than likely wouldn't.

It amazes me a lot of people here seem to think they somehow have more information than the FBI, The US Marshals, Interpol and other international government agencies... :whistle:Apparently YOU don't have any thing better to contribute to the discussion.

Apparently YOU don't have any thing better to contribute to the discussion.

Excuse me? I'm the only one contributing any good information at this point. All you are doing is wallowing in the TINY amount you know about the case, and discussing theories that have already been debunked. The arrogance here, that people think they know better than several international law enforcement agencies is astounding.

Excuse me? I'm the only one contributing any good information at this point. All you are doing is wallowing in the TINY amount you know about the case, and discussing theories that have already been debunked. The arrogance here, that people think they know better than several international law enforcement agencies is astounding.I've read through your posts and I'm not impressed but according to you, you have all the answers. I guess the rest of us can all take it easy now since you're the only one who has good information. I guess you'll find her by Wednesday, huh?

Excuse me? I'm the only one contributing any good information at this point. All you are doing is wallowing in the TINY amount you know about the case, and discussing theories that have already been debunked. The arrogance here, that people think they know better than several international law enforcement agencies is astounding.

All of the information we have about the case has come from the authorities, the media, and your good buddy FindAmy. We are discussing that info and sharing our opinions about it, as is the purpose of a "discussion board."

I don't believe there is a vast amount of information that we don't know. But if there is, maybe you should put it out there instead of sitting there looking down on all of us like we are ignorant. We can only speculate based on the information we've been given.

All the information the public needs to know to help find Amy is the information that is provided. We have listed the parts of the world Amy could be seen in, and the individuals she could be seen with. There is also Missing Person Fliers displayed on my forum that the Bradley's urge anyone going to the places Amy could be seen at to put up.

As with ANY ongoing criminal investigation there is obviously pieces of information that has to be kept confidential for obvious reasons. This is no different with Amy's case. Amy's safety means more to the Bradley's then some forum posters curiosity. Amy's case is not a game.

It amazes me a lot of people here seem to think they somehow have more information than the FBI, The US Marshals, Interpol and other international government agencies... :whistle:

The attacks on the witnesses are pretty disgraceful as well. Calling them ''liars'' and ''scammers'' when they have stated they have no interest in the reward fund and have all been extensively questioned, interviewed and polygraphed by the FBI and investigators.

Don't think anybody here claims to have more information than those agencies-we are questioning whether somebody who claims to actually does & that person saying she could be practically anywhere in the world does little to make anybody believe them.

Polygraphs mean nothing-they have zero scientific credibility, hence why more & more places in America don't use them any longer. The Green River killer passed them & went on to kill more women, others have been convicted due to them & later DNA proved their innocence.

Some could be lying to get reward money hoping they get lucky, people who like publicity/attention, others could be mistaken-seeing a case profiled on a television show, seeing wanted posters, reading about a certain case etc & then they turn something mundane they see like a couple arguing into that case. it happens regularly in life & people make up all kinds of things for attention-pretending they were in a concentration camp or survived the Twin Towers attack etc. People always say they have zero interest in reward money-doesn't make it true.

Excuse me? I'm the only one contributing any good information at this point. All you are doing is wallowing in the TINY amount you know about the case, and discussing theories that have already been debunked. The arrogance here, that people think they know better than several international law enforcement agencies is astounding.

Most see it as wild speculation. The impression one gets is we know so much but you guys know nothing & we aren't going to tell you so there.

All the information the public needs to know to help find Amy is the information that is provided. We have listed the parts of the world Amy could be seen in, and the individuals she could be seen with. There is also Missing Person Fliers displayed on my forum that the Bradley's urge anyone going to the places Amy could be seen at to put up.

As with ANY ongoing criminal investigation there is obviously pieces of information that has to be kept confidential for obvious reasons. This is no different with Amy's case. Amy's safety means more to the Bradley's then some forum posters curiosity. Amy's case is not a game.

Well all the information out there that the public 'needs to know' is 10 years plus old & nobody has found her-so the tactic isn't working & hasn't for many years has it?

Yeah-she could be in America, South America, the Caribbean, Canada, Greece, Italy, practically anywhere on earth in fact. Amazing stuff that shows a real inside knowledge. You have still not given any logical reason as to why a bunch of sex traffickers in the Caribbean would spend 16 plus years taking their victim to public places, posting her photos on an escort website, shipping her around the world on private jets & yachts & get upset whenever anybody questions the total lack of logic/plausibility surrounding any of it.

In case you hadn't noticed your theory means she has been kidnapped, drugged, raped, used as a sex slave & now being used as some kind of mule for nearly 17 years-this is hardly conducive to her being safe & well. Who is investigating this case? The FBI page is long gone so indicates they have no credible information/leads & while still open means unless something new comes to light it is a cold case.

It amazes me a lot of people here seem to think they somehow have more information than the FBI, The US Marshals, Interpol and other international government agencies... :whistle:

The attacks on the witnesses are pretty disgraceful as well. Calling them ''liars'' and ''scammers'' when they have stated they have no interest in the reward fund and have all been extensively questioned, interviewed and polygraphed by the FBI and investigators.


I'd like to make it exceedingly clear, I did NOT call, or insinuate, that anyone was a liar, or a scammer. In fact, I didn't mention anything of the sort in my post. What really amazes me, is that there are people out here posting comments that aren't constructive. As far as I know, this message board is to explore possibilities, discuss cases, and give opinions. That's exactly what everyone here has done.

Agreed. There was a woman who was interviewed on Beth Holloway's "Vanished" who says she ran into a woman named Amy who said she was from the area Amy Bradley was from and was being harassed by men in Curacao. This is exactly the kind of sighting that would of course get the Bradleys' hopes up, but is just too far-fetched. I still think that she was probably thrown overboard and that the bass player needs to be looked at more.

I don't blame the Bradley family for looking into every avenue and maintaining hope. But they've unfortunately fallen prey to scammers and liars who want the reward money. Other eyewitness sightings also seem too far-fetched and unlikely. Even if these people spotted a young woman who looked like Amy (one man mentioned a woman on the beach), it seems impossible it was her. Just like the Elizabeth Campbell case in the convenience stores-- why would a kidnapper let their victim walk on the beach in public? They more than likely wouldn't.
I'm with you. I think she fell overboard or was thrown overboard or possibly murdered and body disposed of. I didn't think it was possible to fall off a ship but people fall overboard a lot more than you expect under intoxication and it goes under the radar. To me that's a likely scenario considering no lead has ever Been 100% substantial. How many cases of missing persons on UM alone have we seen where very credible and solid eye witness leads were completely false and look alikes were very commonly not the same person. Obviously families are going to hold out hope and keep searching and I hope I'm wrong. I really feel for her family and this is one of the saddest cases because people want it solved so badly that you hAve so much info and theory floating around out there.

Mostly theory-the actual evidence is virtually zero.

Mostly theory-the actual evidence is virtually zero.


Agreed.

Excuse me? I'm the only one contributing any good information at this point. All you are doing is wallowing in the TINY amount you know about the case, and discussing theories that have already been debunked. The arrogance here, that people think they know better than several international law enforcement agencies is astounding.

So are you privy to the unreleased information that these several international law enforcement agencies have? I don't quite understand the argument you're making, unless it's to say that LE has let you in on their case info. Otherwise you're in the same situation as the rest of us - "wallowing" in the limited amount of info available from news media, the family website and message boards.

The holidays must be very difficult for the Bradley family. Here's hoping 2015 will be the year this case is finally resolved - the best possible resolution being the safe return of their Amy.

So are you privy to the unreleased information that these several international law enforcement agencies have? I don't quite understand the argument you're making, unless it's to say that LE has let you in on their case info. Otherwise you're in the same situation as the rest of us - "wallowing" in the limited amount of info available from news media, the family website and message boards.

The holidays must be very difficult for the Bradley family. Here's hoping 2015 will be the year this case is finally resolved - the best possible resolution being the safe return of their Amy.

I believe he is just saying what FindingAmy has said-one assumes the information he/she has is direct from the Bradley family via law enforcement. I cannot see law enforcement discussing this case with random sleuths off the street & having joint investigations with them-it is cute in Murder She Wrote & all those other detective shows, but it doesn't happen in real life.

It is hard to believe the authorities would even tell the family everything in their files, or every line of inquiry that they have pursued. With the way this FindingAmy individual behaves it would likely dramatically reduce any information they shared with the family if they believe they are close to this person.

I cannot see law enforcement discussing this case with random sleuths off the street & having joint investigations with them-it is cute in Murder She Wrote & all those other detective shows, but it doesn't happen in real life.

But that's the thing - the people posting as insiders or in-the-know on this case repeatedly reference LE, while at the same time maintaining that LE has not been communicative or cooperative with the family and in fact won't even return phone calls or tell the family why Amy's poster has been removed from the FBI website, let alone what's going on with the investigation. So if LE isn't talking to the family, where is all this info coming from, given it's supposed to be impeachable knowledge that the rest of us do not "wallow" in and dare not question its veracity? As you point out it's hard to imagine LE discussing the case with internet sleuths and yet internet sleuths are the only ones giving out this info. This info isn't even on the family's official website.

Hopefully Murkywater will clarify once and for all. I am ever the optimist. :)

I truly wish 2015 will be "the" year for the Bradley family.

Hi all, some time lurker, first time poster.

I have always wondered about Amy after watching an episode of Disappeared a couple of years ago, and being completely gripped by her story. I have some questions which I wonder, if anyone knows.

1. Was 'Jas' ever traced or did she come forward?
2. Did Alistair Douglas ever have a repeat lie detector test? If not, why not?
3. Has anyone tried to contact Alistair Douglas for comment, hes still around on the internet.
4. What exactly did Alistair Douglas say to authorities about being seen with Amy on the morning of her disappearance. Did he admit it, or admit he gave her a drink?
5. Was the band member who offered condolences to the family before Amy was declared missing, ever identified and questioned about why they said that to her brother?
6.Is Rhapsody of the Seas, still in commission?
7. Was the supposed photographs of Amy, ever evaluated for a second opinion by any other professional, other than Wesley Neville?
8. If anyone has the original image of her that's not been blanked out for decency purposes,has anyone checked the image to see if it can be traced elsewhere e.g facial recognition on the internet, there are sites that do it now I believe.

Thanks :) Maz

Hi all, some time lurker, first time poster.

I have always wondered about Amy after watching an episode of Disappeared a couple of years ago, and being completely gripped by her story. I have some questions which I wonder, if anyone knows.

1. Was 'Jas' ever traced or did she come forward?
2. Did Alistair Douglas ever have a repeat lie detector test? If not, why not?
3. Has anyone tried to contact Alistair Douglas for comment, hes still around on the internet.
4. What exactly did Alistair Douglas say to authorities about being seen with Amy on the morning of her disappearance. Did he admit it, or admit he gave her a drink?
5. Was the band member who offered condolences to the family before Amy was declared missing, ever identified and questioned about why they said that to her brother?
6.Is Rhapsody of the Seas, still in commission?
7. Was the supposed photographs of Amy, ever evaluated for a second opinion by any other professional, other than Wesley Neville?
8. If anyone has the original image of her that's not been blanked out for decency purposes,has anyone checked the image to see if it can be traced elsewhere e.g facial recognition on the internet, there are sites that do it now I believe.

Thanks :) Maz

1) No
2)Not sure, but I think no. I'm guessing he didn't want to take another one.
3) I'm sure people have, but he is under no obligation to talk. He also claims to have found religion now.
4) That one I don't know. I think the story of him being seen with her early in the morning around the time she disappeared came out later. He was seen dancing with her the night before in the ship's disco.
5) The band members said that the ship's crew was asking them if they had seen Amy and that is how they knew. I mean, they were told by the crew before they saw the Bradley's.
6)- 9) I don't know.