hi i have a question to ask, i no that good times was done in the 70's and the cosby show was done in the 80's which show do you think is better the cosby's or good times, i think the cosby is because the family stayed together and there was never non of the boofen that jj portrayed, i wonder how come cosby did not like that show, and why was his show done in new york instead of la later

what are u talking about the cosby show family "stayed together" and good times didnt??? look good times is a much better show.....both had good concepts but good times was sooo much funnier

the cosby show u can say was more of a "positive" black sitcom but good time's was also positive...it shows the REALITY of living in the ghetto...whether u feel they glorified it or not....they were a proud family and they were trying to get out of the ghetto....cosby show was different and it was good but how many black familes u know in that era that related to the cosby show?.....thats not to say that its unrealistc for a black family to be professionals but i feel that the majority of black families related more to shows like good times and sanford & son...im talking about the jokes and situations not so much as majority living in the ghetto and has an uncle that is a junkyard salesmen....im latino by the way but good times > cosby show lol

They were both great shows, but personally, I always felt that the timing was beneficial to both especially the Cosby Show, because it wouldn't have gone over totally in the 70's.

I like both series for what they were. Good Times fell off in its 5th season though. Cosby Show is entertaining and had less of a shark jump. The only thing I don't like about it is that in the later episodes they didn't feature the original players together very often and I'm not a fan of Raven Symone in this show.

I agree with the above comment that they both benefitted from the eras in which they ran. Both shows are extremely reflective of their eras. Cosby Show would have been considered too bourgie for the 70s and Good Times would've been too out of step with the upward mobility push of the Reagan era.

In 2006 we're more likely to see something like Cosby than Good Times. Good Times would be considered too depressing by people at the networks. Even if it was well written and acted they would be afraid to broadcast it for fear of a bad reaction from watchdog groups. I think the 70s was the only era when very gritty sitcoms like the Norman Lear shows could really thrive. If you look at his series: Sanford and Son, Good Times, All in the Family, One Day At A Time and series like Chico and the Man, Kotter and Barney Miller and some others the shows for the most part weren't showcasing sexy characters, they wore simple attire and most of these shows were about working class or poor people. Since the early 80s tv sitcoms have regressed to escapism. Even in Cosby Show they intentionally cast Phylicia Rashad because they wanted to break stereotypes by showing a sexy professional African American wife.

I like both series for what they were. Good Times fell off in its 5th season though. Cosby Show is entertaining and had less of a shark jump. The only thing I don't like about it is that in the later episodes they didn't feature the original players together very often and I'm not a fan of Raven Symone in this show.

I agree with the above comment that they both benefitted from the eras in which they ran. Both shows are extremely reflective of their eras. Cosby Show would have been considered too bourgie for the 70s and Good Times would've been too out of step with the upward mobility push of the Reagan era.

In 2006 we're more likely to see something like Cosby than Good Times. Good Times would be considered too depressing by people at the networks. Even if it was well written and acted they would be afraid to broadcast it for fear of a bad reaction from watchdog groups. I think the 70s was the only era when very gritty sitcoms like the Norman Lear shows could really thrive. If you look at his series: Sanford and Son, Good Times, All in the Family, One Day At A Time and series like Chico and the Man, Kotter and Barney Miller and some others the shows for the most part weren't showcasing sexy characters, they wore simple attire and most of these shows were about working class or poor people. Since the early 80s tv sitcoms have regressed to escapism. Even in Cosby Show they intentionally cast Phylicia Rashad because they wanted to break stereotypes by showing a sexy professional African American wife.


Denise Nichols on "Baby I'm Back" in 1978 was a sexy African American women but wasn't a professional and was not with the husband. So I guess Phylicia was the first black sexy professional wife

Denise Nichols on "Baby I'm Back" in 1978 was a sexy African American women but wasn't a professional and was not with the husband. So I guess Phylicia was the first black sexy professional wife

I remember Denise from Room 222 more than from Baby I'm Back, although I used to watch it in 1978. Baby I'm Back got a lot of negative critiques because it was about a deadbeat father.

I remember Denise from Room 222 more than from Baby I'm Back, although I used to watch it in 1978. Baby I'm Back got a lot of negative critiques because it was about a deadbeat father.


I still think all the eps of Baby I'm Back is better that any episode from the last season of the Cosby Show and Good times-lol

the cosby show

good times

Good Times

I like both series for what they were. Good Times fell off in its 5th season though. Cosby Show is entertaining and had less of a shark jump. The only thing I don't like about it is that in the later episodes they didn't feature the original players together very often and I'm not a fan of Raven Symone in this show.

I agree with the above comment that they both benefitted from the eras in which they ran. Both shows are extremely reflective of their eras. Cosby Show would have been considered too bourgie for the 70s and Good Times would've been too out of step with the upward mobility push of the Reagan era.

In 2006 we're more likely to see something like Cosby than Good Times. Good Times would be considered too depressing by people at the networks. Even if it was well written and acted they would be afraid to broadcast it for fear of a bad reaction from watchdog groups. I think the 70s was the only era when very gritty sitcoms like the Norman Lear shows could really thrive. If you look at his series: Sanford and Son, Good Times, All in the Family, One Day At A Time and series like Chico and the Man, Kotter and Barney Miller and some others the shows for the most part weren't showcasing sexy characters, they wore simple attire and most of these shows were about working class or poor people. Since the early 80s tv sitcoms have regressed to escapism. Even in Cosby Show they intentionally cast Phylicia Rashad because they wanted to break stereotypes by showing a sexy professional African American wife.
Why do people say Claire was sexy? She had no body and her face was average at best. Rudy on the other hand...:eyes:

hi i have a question to ask, i no that good times was done in the 70's and the cosby show was done in the 80's which show do you think is better the cosby's or good times, i think the cosby is because the family stayed together and there was never non of the boofen that jj portrayed, i wonder how come cosby did not like that show, and why was his show done in new york instead of la later
I like the cosby show better because I like that it broke grounds by showing American that not all Black people are poor and uneducated. It showed that Black people can be shown in a positive light and still be funny and not have to resort to the Stepin Fetchit antics of JJ to get a laugh. The main reason the mother and father left Good Times is because they were fed up with the way JJ's character was reduced to the same bafoon role that plagued alot of black actors in the early Hollywood. Back then, white audiences were much more interested in a lazy, illiterate, silly black man than an educated responsible one, and judging from the way JJ became the star and main attraction, that typecasting was kept alive. It took the Cosby show to say, "hold on, we're doctors, lawyers, judges, teachers, and leaders, just like you."

Not trying to start anything but why must people ALWAYS start this Cosby Show vs. Good Times mess? Why don't everyone take the time to respect BOTH shows without dissing the other?

Both shows had WTF? moments (Ex: GT:James death, Flordia leaving, J.J the 70's urkel. CS: Hillman, Raven-Symone and later on the 'hood' kids) but come on, we don't need to put these shows against each other.

I have never heard anyone putting Martin against The Jeffersons or 227 against The Hughley's or something like that. Yes my life was more Cosby than Good Times but that's another story.

Not trying to start anything but why must people ALWAYS start this Cosby Show vs. Good Times mess? Why don't everyone take the time to respect BOTH shows without dissing the other?

Both shows had WTF? moments (Ex: GT:James death, Flordia leaving, J.J the 70's urkel. CS: Hillman, Raven-Symone and later on the 'hood' kids) but come on, we don't need to put these shows against each other.

I have never heard anyone putting Martin against The Jeffersons or 227 against The Hughley's or something like that. Yes my life was more Cosby than Good Times but that's another story.


I like cmparing Good Times to the Jeffersons, Cosby Show has more in common with Family Matters

I like cmparing Good Times to the Jeffersons, Cosby Show has more in common with Family Matters


Ugh Family Matters:eek: ! I meant Huxtables vs. Evans. Almost EVERY message board and or outside discussion is always a Huxtables vs. Evans. I'll admit I do like CS more than GT but both shows had good and bad in them.

Oh god The Huxtables vs. The corny Winslows? Ham mercy!

Ugh Family Matters:eek: ! I meant Huxtables vs. Evans. Almost EVERY message board and or outside discussion is always a Huxtables vs. Evans. I'll admit I do like CS more than GT but both shows had good and bad in them.

Oh god The Huxtables vs. The corny Winslows? Ham mercy!


You probably see GT compared to the Cosby show a lot on this site because a year ago someone started a rumor that Bill Cosby HATED Good Times

You probably see GT compared to the Cosby show a lot on this site because a year ago someone started a rumor that Bill Cosby HATED Good Times

You know, I've heard that rumor before and coming from Cosby, it's probably true. He thought he was God when his show kicked everybody else's ass in the ratings.

Even some T.V specials compare the two, even Malcolm Jamal Warner has said some not so nice things about Good Times.

You know, I've heard that rumor before and coming from Cosby, it's probably true. He thought he was God when his show kicked everybody else's ass in the ratings.

Even some T.V specials compare the two, even Malcolm Jamal Warner has said some not so nice things about Good Times.


I would love to confirm if he said it one day

I would love to confirm if he said it one day

It was on one of those stupid specials where they flash back every two weeks on some eighties star. I want to say it was on E! but I could be wrong, it was three years ago. All I remember was damn, he's so full of himself.

I would definitely say that Good Times was better than The Cosby Show. Good Times was much more realistic and funnier.

It was on one of those stupid specials where they flash back every two weeks on some eighties star. I want to say it was on E! but I could be wrong, it was three years ago. All I remember was damn, he's so full of himself.


My mom has said that Bill Cosby didn'e let his kids watch Good Times, The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. But she couldn't confirm where she heard it

My mom has said that Bill Cosby didn'e let his kids watch Good Times, The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. But she couldn't confirm where she heard it
I believe it. Bill Cosby sometimes puts down black people. He's very hypocritical about a lot of stuff, too.

I believe it. Bill Cosby sometimes puts down black people. He's very hypocritical about a lot of stuff, too.


I guess it was nothing wrong with his GHETTO cartoon-"FAT ALBERT"-lol

I guess it was nothing wrong with his GHETTO cartoon-"FAT ALBERT"-lol
Yeah, you're right! LOL! :lol:

I believe it. Bill Cosby sometimes puts down black people. He's very hypocritical about a lot of stuff, too.

I believe it too. I sometimes agree with the stuff he says but there are other times where i'm like 'negro please.' I guess Uptown Saturday Night wasn't a coon fest or his million and one mistresses didn't count as ruining the black family unit.

I believe it too. I sometimes agree with the stuff he says but there are other times where i'm like 'negro please.' I guess Uptown Saturday Night wasn't a coon fest or his million and one mistresses didn't count as ruining the black family unit.
I too agree with SOME of the stuff he says, but the thing is that he's a giant hypocrite. He doesn't practice what he preaches. And I could just kill him for buying all the episodes of Little Rascals so nobody could ever see them again. He thinks Buckwheat was treated unfairly because he's black. As you would say..."Negro, please!"

I too agree with SOME of the stuff he says, but the thing is that he's a giant hypocrite. He doesn't practice what he preaches. And I could just kill him for buying all the episodes of Little Rascals so nobody could ever see them again. He thinks Buckwheat was treated unfairly because he's black. As you would say..."Negro, please!"

He did WHAT????!!!! Are you serious? What in the hell? :confused: So I guess Amos and Andy were treated like royality huh?

He did WHAT????!!!! Are you serious? What in the hell? :confused: So I guess Amos and Andy were treated like royality huh?
Yep, he's owned Little Rascals for YEARS now and he WILL NOT allow for them to ever be aired again. Moron!

Bill Cosby defintely looked like he was playing a TUG role in Uptown Saturday Night

Bill Cosby defintely looked like he was playing a TUG role in Uptown Saturday Night
LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bill Cosby does come off as being very condescending and judgemental, and it's only gotten worse. In other news, I'm surprised that so many people didn't like Raven's Olivia character. Until I came to this site, I thought that most people liked her. I didn't watch the last season or two because Cosby was going up against The Simpsons on Thursday nights, and I'd watch the latter.

Bill Cosby does come off as being very condescending and judgemental, and it's only gotten worse. In other news, I'm surprised that so many people didn't like Raven's Olivia character. Until I came to this site, I thought that most people liked her. I didn't watch the last season or two because Cosby was going up against The Simpsons on Thursday nights, and I'd watch the latter.


Probably because she was acting too mch like an adult and not like a LITTLE GIRL. Like Rudy did

Bill Cosby does come off as being very condescending and judgemental, and it's only gotten worse. In other news, I'm surprised that so many people didn't like Raven's Olivia character. Until I came to this site, I thought that most people liked her. I didn't watch the last season or two because Cosby was going up against The Simpsons on Thursday nights, and I'd watch the latter.

Why the surprise? ALMOST EVERYONE I know hated that annoyance of a character! That child irked me to no end, her and her smart mouthed friend Marlon who was a poor man's version of Kenny.

Why the surprise? ALMOST EVERYONE I know hated that annoyance of a character! That child irked me to no end, her and her smart mouthed friend Marlon who was a poor man's version of Kenny.

I'm not the type to generalize and say that "almost everyone" this and that because I don't go around polling people on whether or not they liked a character on a show.

I'm not the type to generalize and say that "almost everyone" this and that because I don't go around polling people on whether or not they liked a character on a show.

Um...... neither am I. I just said that almost everyone I KNOW hated the character. I didn't say almost everyone in America.......

I wasn't trying to be smart with you, i'm just kidding! A lot of people via word of mouth and message boards such as Jump the Shark and this one has expressed how much Olivia annoyed them. Like I said, smart ass kids are NEVER funny.

I like cmparing Good Times to the Jeffersons, Cosby Show has more in common with Family Matters

Pre-Urkel

I like both series for what they were. Good Times fell off in its 5th season though. Cosby Show is entertaining and had less of a shark jump. The only thing I don't like about it is that in the later episodes they didn't feature the original players together very often and I'm not a fan of Raven Symone in this show.

I agree with the above comment that they both benefited from the eras in which they ran. Both shows are extremely reflective of their eras. Cosby Show would have been considered too bourgeoisie for the 70s and Good Times would've been too out of step with the upward mobility push of the Reagan era.

In 2006 we're more likely to see something like Cosby than Good Times. Good Times would be considered too depressing by people at the networks. Even if it was well written and acted they would be afraid to broadcast it for fear of a bad reaction from watchdog groups. I think the 70s was the only era when very gritty sitcoms like the Norman Lear shows could really thrive. If you look at his series: Sanford and Son, Good Times, All in the Family, One Day At A Time and series like Chico and the Man, Kotter and Barney Miller and some others the shows for the most part weren't showcasing sexy characters, they wore simple attire and most of these shows were about working class or poor people. Since the early 80s TV sitcoms have regressed to escapism. Even in Cosby Show they intentionally cast Phylicia Rashad because they wanted to break stereotypes by showing a sexy professional African American wife.

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