View Full Version : The Joe Cole Case (Henry Rollins friend)


4am
10-10-2005, 10:22 PM
Does anyone remember this case? I remember watching when it first aired( I think i taped it that day too) and thinking that was pretty damn frighting what Joe Cole and Rollins went through. Rollins having to book it towards the back door right after the shot his adrenaline had to be pumpin like crazzy..

It was kinda strange seeing Rollins on unsolved mysteries though, Since i grew up listening to his music (Black Flag,S.O.A,etc) and here he is speaking on UM of all places. :lol:. But again, its not that suprising with the type of world we live in.

Do any of you think that this was some type of "set-up" against Rollins or Joe Cole? Ionno..My personal opinion is that it was some random fool on the street looking to rob somebody and they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

There's another theory i read in another post that maybe someone in that neighborhood was looking for retaliation towards Rollins because of some Nazi WWII memorabilia that he had ( I never knew about this until now), but i dont think that was the case IMO.

I havent seen this episode in ages but does anyone recall what provoked the perpatrator to fire at Joe Cole? Was it because they had too little money or did they try to escape. Kinda makes you think what you should really do in a situation like this..

Ofcourse my common sense would tell me to just hand everything over and just pray they do nothing to harm me but its scenarios like this makes you question if that is always the smart thing to do. I think most of us would choose being cooperative over the latter, which i do agree would be the right thing to do.

I'm sure if Rollins & Cole knew the guy would fire then they would have did diffrently, but again, i know the element of suprise is NO joke..

Anyone else has thoughts about the case?

4am:cool:

Mr. Fuji
10-11-2005, 01:30 AM
I just saw this case not too long ago. If memory serves me, the two didn't have much money, so the robbers asked them to go to their homes and get more money. Rollins entered the home first, and he said he recalled hearing feet scuffling behind him as if people were struggling, and then hearing a gunshot, and then running for his life. My guess is that his friend tried to wrestle with the robbers and got shot in the process.

I honestly think this was just a random attack that happened to happen to a celebrity. Yeah, Rollins definitely thought they were going to fire at him; I remember him saying that he felt that they were going to go into the house, get robbed, and be executed by the robbers. That is why Rollins told them that his roommate was home when the robbers asked him if anyone else was home. He thought that if he said a roommate was home, the robbers would get scared off and leave them there.

A really sad case, in my opinion. The fact that they only have a composite drawing makes me feel that it may never be solved, too.

4am
10-11-2005, 02:04 AM
I just saw this case not too long ago. If memory serves me, the two didn't have much money, so the robbers asked them to go to their homes and get more money. Rollins entered the home first, and he said he recalled hearing feet scuffling behind him as if people were struggling, and then hearing a gunshot, and then running for his life. My guess is that his friend tried to wrestle with the robbers and got shot in the process.

I honestly think this was just a random attack that happened to happen to a celebrity. Yeah, Rollins definitely thought they were going to fire at him; I remember him saying that he felt that they were going to go into the house, get robbed, and be executed by the robbers. That is why Rollins told them that his roommate was home when the robbers asked him if anyone else was home. He thought that if he said a roommate was home, the robbers would get scared off and leave them there.

A really sad case, in my opinion. The fact that they only have a composite drawing makes me feel that it may never be solved, too.

Are you sure it was more than one robber? I could be wrong but i thought it was only one dude by himself.

Yeah i forgot that Rollins said he heard feet scuffling before the shot--so there had to be a struggle then. Rollins is a very fortunate man though, making it outta there alive.

Kane
10-11-2005, 09:04 AM
I actually posted a thread here not long ago about an article on the case. It was in a recent issue of Globe magazine. The article appeared in a late-August or early September 2005 issue of Globe, so you don't have to look too far for the thread. (However, since it's a tabloid magazine, you really can't believe everything you read in there.)

In the article, Joe's father, actor Dennis Cole, states his belief that Henry Rollins is withholding information that may help solve Joe's murder. Rollins denies this. The article also suggests a theory that Rollins was the intended target, and that it was a hit gone wrong. Rollins believed that the killers may have seen him on MTV, and got the impression that he was rich.

rykey
10-12-2005, 02:40 AM
i saw rollins speak about 10 years ago. he went over his version of the story.
if i remember correctly, joe and henry went out to rent a video late one night. when they returned home, two guys jumped out at the front step, guns drawn, and demanded money.
when it was apparent that the two had no money on them, the robbers told them to go inside. rollins went in first, heard a gunshot, and then took off through the back door and down some alleys.

according to henry, when the cops arrived, they thought he was the killer and put him in cuffs. it was in the back of the squad car that he learned joe had been killed.

the accusations of withholding information notwithstanding, rollins says it seemed to just be a crime of opportunity.

i hadn't heard about the UM episode about it. anybody have any links?

UnsolvedMystory
06-10-2009, 12:51 AM
this in my opinion was totally random,if your from L.A. you should know this area ...Oakwood section of Venice ,CA the ghetto by the sea ,at least thats what is used to be called most of the area has since gone through gentrification and virtualy no gangs exist due to multi million dollar homes being built ,but back then ,not a place you want to be strolling at night,it was probably some Venice Shorline Crips riding on 2 white guys minding their biz and trying to jack them and probably would of ended up slaying Rollins if he didnt make a b-line for the back door ,i just bet you ,cops should know this too.

hovaslash
06-10-2009, 02:18 PM
Music industry types such as Rick Rubin etc were friends of the two- I'm sure they all pulled up in fancy rides. That also may have served to bring more attention to the pair.

FarinaforBrkfast
02-17-2012, 09:52 AM
I remember when this happened. They lived in a bad neighborhood at the time. They were, from what Rollins said in interviews I had heard, some of the only white guys in the neighborhood. If they thought 2 tattooed punk kids in ratty clothes WALKING home (in CA) through a bad part of town in the 80s had money, then they were not the smartest thieves in the block. This fact Cole had realized and acted the hero, saving Rollins. They knew they were dead the minute they both walked through that door.......

TheCars1986
02-17-2012, 10:17 AM
I'd say the odds are fairly high that whoever killed Joe Cole has since died or is in prison for an unrelated crime. At least I hope so anyway.