View Full Version : Esther Rolle comments on her Return to Good Times in 1978
JeffRuss1972 10-02-2005, 07:37 PM The following is what Esther Rolle had to say about returning to Good Times in 1978 after being off the show for the 1977-78 season:
"There were a lot of things that I was dissatisfied with. Well, CBS fixed the things that were troubling me the most. They agreed to my terms. Having gotten all those concessions, how could I turn them down?" Her demands were to have the producers replaced, to give herself a voice in "script consultation," and to put J.J. into the background.
"I must admit," she said, "there was a bit of practicality behind my decision to come back. Having been off regular salary for a year, my funds were getting depleted." She went on. "They are suppose to make J.J. a more meaningful character. They say they'll take some of that junk off him and dress him a little differently. They say they'll try to make him more intelligent. Personally, I don't know how intelligent they can make him. After all, you can't get blood from a turnip. But we're sure gonna try. Basically, we hope to put the show back on the foundation it started on. Instead of using me as a stage prop, the show will revolve around me.
"I just hope," she said, "it isn't too late to make the show work."
Brian Damage 10-02-2005, 09:07 PM Wow, she really laid into JJ. If if I were Jimmie Walker, I'd be insulted.
Brieannas21 10-02-2005, 09:41 PM I find it hard to believe that she needed the money since she did two movies during the time she was off of Good Times.
Where did you find this interview? It seems like an odd interview to me.
JeffRuss1972 10-02-2005, 11:18 PM These were quotes from The Great TV Sitcom Book by Rick Mitz(1980). Not sure where the interview came from. Found it interesting, though.
mstewart 10-03-2005, 12:42 AM Wow, she really laid into JJ. If if I were Jimmie Walker, I'd be insulted.
She was not talking about Jimmie Walker it was the J.J. character. His antics were too out there and it had a 70s version of Amos and Andy. Unfortunately the damage was done when John Amos was fired and Esther leaving the following season. The season she came the show ran its course and it was too late to repair what was broken by making the show a parentless show. Esther was in her perfect right for wanting the show to have a more positive influence on African Americans.
TVFactFan 10-03-2005, 09:28 AM She was 100% right, if the J.J character was slightly ******** for 5 years, how can he chnaged into an intelligent man in the sixth year? Like she said, the damage was already done.
ThomasE 10-05-2005, 11:51 PM On one the linear notes from the Columbia House release of Good Times, It talks about how Esther Rolle said that the show would more focused on her and not a stage prop. It also said that the producers were replaced as well. I do believe that her funds probably were disappearing as well regardless of the two movies. She probably was not paid yet. Who knows?
I definitely applaude her for coming back because the show was getting tired on my opinion. I would have been a shame if the series and last episode ended without her. Uggh!
GeorgeWBushGOP 10-06-2005, 02:52 PM Sorry Esther I thought the show was supposed to be a COMEDY.
The J.J. character made that show a megahit. TV isn't supposed to be realistic. It is fictional.
Lets make JJ serious. and make him dress tame.
And after this season we will be gone for good.
TVFactFan 10-06-2005, 03:04 PM Sorry Esther I thought the show was supposed to be a COMEDY.
The J.J. character made that show a megahit. TV isn't supposed to be realistic. It is fictional.
Lets make JJ serious. and make him dress tame.
And after this season we will be gone for good.
I wouldn;t say Megahit because the show was never in the top 5 and also it was just ******** J.J who was the reason for the early success, it was the cast as a whole
GeorgeWBushGOP 10-06-2005, 03:37 PM I love how you use the word "******" so loosely!!
I don't care for Jimmy Walker that much. But when this show was in first run I was a child. and Jimmy was the person who caught my attention. so I imagine it was the same for most people which was actually obvious.
This show without JJ wouldn't have made it 13 episodes. It was a comedy. Period.
TVFactFan 10-06-2005, 07:10 PM I love how you use the word "******" so loosely!!
I don't care for Jimmy Walker that much. But when this show was in first run I was a child. and Jimmy was the person who caught my attention. so I imagine it was the same for most people which was actually obvious.
This show without JJ wouldn't have made it 13 episodes. It was a comedy. Period.
I think just appealed to KIDS. I'm sure if Good times premeired at the age you are now u would hate watching J.J
GeorgeWBushGOP 10-06-2005, 08:01 PM I think just appealed to KIDS. I'm sure if Good times premeired at the age you are now u would hate watching J.J
I think he gave adults an URKEL like amusement. When JJ got serious the show went down the tubes.
bansogirl 10-07-2005, 11:36 AM I think he gave adults an URKEL like amusement. When JJ got serious the show went down the tubes.
Speaking of that, I wonder what it would have been like if they had a show like "Family Matters" back then. I am sure that ppl would have complained about Urkel as much as they complained about JJ
TVFactFan 10-07-2005, 07:15 PM I don;t think there were any Black Nerds in the 70's
Rocknoggin 10-08-2005, 05:46 AM I love how you use the word "******" so loosely!!
And I love how you embrace political correctness when it serves your needs to belittle someone that you know meant no harm.
Brian Damage 10-08-2005, 01:20 PM The show didn't fail because of JJ's goofiness, it failed ultimately, because John Amos and Esther Rolle left the show.
JeffRuss1972 10-08-2005, 01:57 PM The show didn't fail because of JJ's goofiness, it failed ultimately, because John Amos and Esther Rolle left the show.
Agreed.
ThomasE 10-08-2005, 02:53 PM I don't blame Esther Rolle one bit for her actions. The shows should have revolved around her. JJ was great to have but he was more like the dessert. Too much dessert can be bad at times. There should be more of a balance. I think there was during season six.
JeffRuss1972 10-08-2005, 04:09 PM Yeah, from what I've seen of season 6, it was MUCH better than season 5. I missed the interaction between Amos and Rolle, though. It was very natural to me.
GeorgeWBushGOP 10-08-2005, 08:58 PM I don;t think there were any Black Nerds in the 70's
OH NO??????
Remember this??
"HEY HEY HEY"!!!!!
Ireneparalegal 10-08-2005, 09:02 PM OH NO??????
Remember this??
"HEY HEY HEY"!!!!!
Yeah...it kinda sounds like Fat Albert too, he was a nerd, even though he wasn't real, he still was a nerd.
TVFactFan 10-08-2005, 09:20 PM OH NO??????
Remember this??
"HEY HEY HEY"!!!!!
I said Nerd, Dwayne was Gay-lol
nndman1 10-08-2005, 10:32 PM I lived through the 70s and the JJ character was what drove the show. Jimmie Walker's mug was all over the place then, and he was in a couple movies plus there was even a DY-NO-MITE song that made the Top 40. The interplay between JJ and James made the show. When James left that was gone and the aging JJ character going solo just didn't work.
JeffRuss1972 10-09-2005, 03:36 PM I don't blame Esther Rolle one bit for her actions. The shows should have revolved around her. JJ was great to have but he was more like the dessert. Too much dessert can be bad at times. There should be more of a balance. I think there was during season six.
That's a good analogy. I think the character of JJ WAS like dessert, while James and Florida were the meat and vegetables. Everyone always likes dessert, especially kids, but they can't live on it. Once you take away the meat and veggies, the substance is gone and you eventually die.
ThomasE 10-09-2005, 09:35 PM That's a good analogy. I think the character of JJ WAS like dessert, while James and Florida were the meat and vegetables. Everyone always likes dessert, especially kids, but they can't live on it. Once you take away the meat and veggies, the substance is gone and you eventually die.
As did Good Times.......and badly too!
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