http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/08/D8CG5HNG0.html

"Football Season is Over"

"No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax. This won't hurt.
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What a note to find... one of the best suicide notes ever written by my favourite author.

RIP HST

..wow.

i don't think that suicide notes can really be classified as better than others. it's horrible.

yea how do you have a favorite suicide note? how many have you seen?

hmm..

erm

Found a website on famous suicide notes.

http://www.corsinet.com/braincandy/dying3.html

Found a website on famous suicide notes.

http://www.corsinet.com/braincandy/dying3.html

how terribly depressing :(

Found a website on famous suicide notes.

http://www.corsinet.com/braincandy/dying3.html
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet

And now, in keeping with Channel 40's policy of always bringing you the latest in blood and guts, in living color, you're about to see another first - an attempted suicide.
Shot herself during broadcast.
~~ Chris Chubbuck, newscaster, d. July 15, 1974

And now, in keeping with Channel 40's policy of always bringing you the latest in blood and guts, in living color, you're about to see another first - an attempted suicide.
Shot herself during broadcast.
~~ Chris Chubbuck, newscaster, d. July 15, 1974

wa....?

Found a website on famous suicide notes.

http://www.corsinet.com/braincandy/dying3.html
yeah i've seen that site before, among other related ones. reading suicide notes really interests me. i've read about the chris chubbuck suicide, i'm pretty fascinated with things like that.

I don't understand how a person about to take their own life is mentally stable enough to write a note.

I don't understand how a person about to take their own life is mentally stable enough to write a note.
if you mean emotionally stable, then yeah it's just about getting out any last words and what you have to say about the suicide.

yeah i've seen that site before, among other related ones. reading suicide notes really interests me. i've read about the chris chubbuck suicide, i'm pretty fascinated with things like that.
I know this is awesome to me.

What a note, indeed.. :(

I don't understand how a person about to take their own life is mentally stable enough to write a note.

Someone very close to me, someone I have never talked about around here and probably never will, committed suicide when I was a little girl. Even with his emotional state, he was able to write several of them. Sarah's right, they need to get out any last words they may have.

I know this is awesome to me.
I'm not trying to read too much into your post... but i can understand it being "fasinating", like getting inside the human mind, but how can a person taking their own life and leaving a not be considered "awesome"...?

IMO, this guy had a good thing going. Wife, great career, fame, money, blah blah blah. But he decides to be selfish and leave his wife and friends just because he doesn't want to be "selfish" in taking up space or something. They praise him, yet if some nobody like me did the same thing, I'd be just what I said...selfish. There are people all over the world who have it way worse than he seemed too, and somehow they manage to not kill themselves. Trust me, I've felt that way as recently as last weekend. I feel sorry for his wife.

Gee...double standard anyone?

Go ahead...I know someone will flame me. It's the thing to do around here.

And now, in keeping with Channel 40's policy of always bringing you the latest in blood and guts, in living color, you're about to see another first - an attempted suicide.
Shot herself during broadcast.
~~ Chris Chubbuck, newscaster, d. July 15, 1974

Dang...I wonder what was going thru her head to make her do that.

To Harald, may God forgive you and forgive me too but I prefer to take my life away and our baby's before I bring him with shame or killing him, Lupe.
Suicide note.
~~ Lupe Velez, actress, d. December 13, 1944

She killed her baby too? Anyone know her story?


Why is it that most of the people on that page are artists of some sort? Writers, actors, musicians...

A lot of people in the creative arts have psychological skeletons that can become problematic for the person in question if said skeleton ever get out of the closet.

Do you hear the rain? Do you hear the rain?
Minutes before her plane crashed.
~~ Jessica Dubroff, seven-year-old pilot, d. 1996

Good Lord...someone let a seven year old fly a plane??

IMO, this guy had a good thing going. Wife, great career, fame, money, blah blah blah. But he decides to be selfish and leave his wife and friends just because he doesn't want to be "selfish" in taking up space or something. They praise him, yet if some nobody like me did the same thing, I'd be just what I said...selfish. There are people all over the world who have it way worse than he seemed too, and somehow they manage to not kill themselves. Trust me, I've felt that way as recently as last weekend. I feel sorry for his wife.

Gee...double standard anyone?

Go ahead...I know someone will flame me. It's the thing to do around here.
that's exactly how i am. i refrain from discussing my opinion of suicide because i am such a ****ing hypocrite. i think it's a sad thing and when i hear people talk about suicidal thoughts i keep thinking things like that they have a lot to live for and they would upset a lot of people if they killed themselves, i really try to discourage it. when i'm suicidal i consider my own advice but just don't give a crap, i'm pretty much unable to care about the results of killing myself. i feel like i COULD have a lot to live for but have this feeling of emptiness i can almost physically feel throughout my being and would rather just die. i'm not going to go into my story about how i became so maniacally suicidal two years ago, but my main objective back then was to make certain people guilty. i often thought about bringing a gun to school and shooting myself in right front of them to make it worse. it could be related to your wondering about chris chubbuck killing herself on the news, i would have wanted to do something like that too.

Am I dying or is this my birthday?
When she woke briefly during her last illness and found all her family around her bedside.
~~ Lady Nancy Astor, d. 1964

I am still alive!
Stabbed to death by his own guards - (as reported by Roman historian Tacitus)
~~ Gaius Caligula, Roman Emperor, d.41 AD

Damn it . . . Don't you dare ask God to help me.
To her housekeeper, who had begun to pray aloud.
~~ Joan Crawford, actress, d. May 10, 1977

Go on, get out - last words are for fools who haven't said enough.
To his housekeeper, who urged him to tell her his last words so she could write them down for posterity.
~~ Karl Marx, revolutionary, d. 1883

I knew it. I knew it. Born in a hotel room - and God damn it - died in a hotel room.
~~ Eugene O'Neill, writer, d. November 27, 1953

They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist. . . .
Killed in battle during US Civil War.
~~ General John Sedgwick, Union Commander, d. 1864

Hurrah for anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life.
Last words on the gallows.
~~ George Engel
(He was one of four executed after the 1886 Haymarket bombing in Chicago)

I'd like to thank my family for loving me and taking care of me. And the rest of the world can kiss my ass.
Executed by injection, Texas.
~~ Johnny Frank Garrett, Sr., d. February 11, 1992

Shoot straight you bastards and don't make a mess of it!
Executed by firing squad.
~~ Harry Harbord "Breaker" Morant, Australian poet & national hero, d. 1902


lolllllll

IMO, this guy had a good thing going. Wife, great career, fame, money, blah blah blah. But he decides to be selfish and leave his wife and friends just because he doesn't want to be "selfish" in taking up space or something. They praise him, yet if some nobody like me did the same thing, I'd be just what I said...selfish. There are people all over the world who have it way worse than he seemed too, and somehow they manage to not kill themselves. Trust me, I've felt that way as recently as last weekend. I feel sorry for his wife.

Dawnsongirl, I understand what you mean, but I think most of the people who commit suicide must be messed-up in their heads. Surely they must be suffering from some form of depression? At least that's what I've always thought. I've always felt sorry for people who kill themselves, as I think they must have been very disturbed, ill and miserable. I also feel sorry for their families/friends, but I feel sorry for the people who have died themselves. And I understand where you're coming from, really, but I've always thought that if someone is mentally sick, depressed, or unbalanced, they can't always be expected to look at things in a rational manner or do something more "sensible." I think when someone is ill or depressed, they can't recognise the good things; it seems more like a disease to me than selfishness. I suppose one could counter-argue that it could be called selfish to make someone stay in a world where they're unhappy.

But having said that, I do understand where you're coming from, and I would hate it if anyone I cared about killed themselves. But I don't think I'd blame them or think them selfish...I think I'd just be really upset that they were dead and that they'd had this mental illness.

Found a website on famous suicide notes.

http://www.corsinet.com/braincandy/dying3.html



Ironic, I just saw Freddy Prinze Jr. talking about his father just last night, they said he died of an accidental shooting.

Yeah it deffinately sux about Hunter S. Thompson, but the guy was nuts! That was a lot of his driving force that made him a good writer.

Ironic, I just saw Freddy Prinze Jr. talking about his father just last night, they said he died of an accidental shooting.

Yes, Freddie Sr.'s mother Maria Pruetzel went to court to have his death ruled accidental. He was high on prescription drugs and/or drunk at the time, but his death was unusual for a suicide in that his manager was present (most suicides--notwithstanding that news reporter someone mentioned earlier OMG!--are committed while the person is alone).

Freddie was overwhelmed by his whirlwind fame and depressed over a bitter impending divorce--which included his estranged wife not allowing him to see his son. "Selfishness" of a sort may be a factor in suicide, but I am not sure I would call wanting to be allowed to return to fathering his son "selfish".

This was at a time when things like bipolar disorder (which Freddie probably suffered from) and the potential for addiction to prescription medicine were poorly understood. Freddie was seeing a psychiatrist who prescribed Quaaludes--which have subsequently been banned from legitimate medical uses because of their addictive and dangerous nature. And it is documented that he liked to drink wine and to wash down his pills with it--another thing whose dangers were not fully realized in the 1970's.

Therefore, those of us who admired Freddie's talent agree he didn't really mean to die--probably only to scare his wife into letting him see Freddie Jr. again. He was unstable in some ways, yes--but I can say as a fellow "artist" (though not being nearly as talented as Freddie or any of the other celebrities mentioned here) that it seems to me a certain amount of mental and/or emotional instability is basically necessary to the artistic temperament. Vincent van Gogh, anyone?

Yes, Freddie Sr.'s mother Maria Pruetzel went to court to have his death ruled accidental. He was high on prescription drugs and/or drunk at the time, but his death was unusual for a suicide in that his manager was present (most suicides--notwithstanding that news reporter someone mentioned earlier OMG!--are committed while the person is alone).

Freddie was overwhelmed by his whirlwind fame and depressed over a bitter impending divorce--which included his estranged wife not allowing him to see his son. "Selfishness" of a sort may be a factor in suicide, but I am not sure I would call wanting to be allowed to return to fathering his son "selfish".

This was at a time when things like bipolar disorder (which Freddie probably suffered from) and the potential for addiction to prescription medicine were poorly understood. Freddie was seeing a psychiatrist who prescribed Quaaludes--which have subsequently been banned from legitimate medical uses because of their addictive and dangerous nature. And it is documented that he liked to drink wine and to wash down his pills with it--another thing whose dangers were not fully realized in the 1970's.

Therefore, those of us who admired Freddie's talent agree he didn't really mean to die--probably only to scare his wife into letting him see Freddie Jr. again. He was unstable in some ways, yes--but I can say as a fellow "artist" (though not being nearly as talented as Freddie or any of the other celebrities mentioned here) that it seems to me a certain amount of mental and/or emotional instability is basically necessary to the artistic temperament. Vincent van Gogh, anyone?




Yeah, ol' Vinnie had some problems, LOL :lol:

I'm not trying to read too much into your post... but i can understand it being "fasinating", like getting inside the human mind, but how can a person taking their own life and leaving a not be considered "awesome"...?

I didn't mean that suicide was awesome. I just thought all of this was fasinating.

I didn't mean that suicide was awesome. I just thought all of this was fasinating.
that's what I thought you meant, but I had to ask. No harm intended.

I think all of us are a bit fascinated with things that are bigger than life.... and celeb suicides rank up there. I have several books about famous people who died, some of suicide and some of other mysterious circumstances. It is always interesting to try to get into the mind of someone who wants to end it all, to try to understand their pain. No one commits suicide in a vacuum. It is easy to say they are just being selfish. People are correct in saying it is a selfish act, but there is way more to it than that. Suicide notes are the living's way of trying to understand why a person would feel that this is the only way out for them. I was suicidal as a teen, but then I think most teens go through a period of that sort of thing. I have had friends who's spouses have killed themselves and they still deal with the pain of it all many years later. With a regular death (not by one's own hand) most people can move on eventually, but with suicide, the ones left behind never seem to let go of it completely, always wondering if it was something they said or did or if they could have done something to prevent it. I guess the notes are one way of trying to get a handle on it. The one person I am pretty close to today who's husband killed himself (right before Christmas no less, but holiday suicides are quite common) many years ago never left a note that I remember and she still suffers inside.

Just my two centavos.....

that's exactly how i am. i refrain from discussing my opinion of suicide because i am such a ****ing hypocrite.

Yeah, me too. How many times have I thought no one would give a rat's ass if I was gone? But everyone else has a reason to live. Maybe that's why I find suicide interesting.

Lupe Velez, :lol: :lol: .

The first episode of Frasier ends with Roz telling Frasier the story of Lupe Velez....


Roz: What's eating you?

Frasier: Oh, I'm sorry. It's just this thing with my father and this,
this person he wants to hire. I thought I'd started my life
with a clean slate. I had picture of what it was going to
be like, and then, I don't know...

Roz: Ever heard of Lupe Velez?

Frasier: Who?

Roz: Lupe Velez - the movie star in the '30s. Well, her career
hit the skids, so she decided she'd make one final stab at
immortality. She figured if she couldn't be remembered for
her movies, she'd be remembered for the way she died. And
all Lupe wanted was to be remembered. So, she plans this
lavish suicide - flowers, candles, silk sheets, white satin
gown, full hair and makeup, the works. She takes the
overdose of pills, lays on the bed, and imagines how
beautiful she's going to look on the front page of
tomorrow's newspaper. Unfortunately, the pills don't sit
well with the enchilada combo plate she sadly chose as her
last meal. She stumbles to the bathroom, trips and goes
head-first into the toilet, and that's how they found her.

Frasier: Is there a reason you're telling me this story?

Roz: Yes. Even though things may not happen like we planned,
they can work out anyway.

Frasier: Remind me again how it worked for Lupe, last seen with her
head in the toilet?

Roz: All she wanted was to be remembered. [beat] Will you ever
forget that story?




Roz: Dr Crane, we have Claire on line four. She's having a
problem getting over a relationship.

Frasier: [presses a button] Hello, Claire. I'm listening.

Claire: [distraught] I'm a, well, I'm a mess! Eight months ago my
boyfriend and I broke up, and I just can't get over it. The
pain isn't going away. It's almost like I'm in mourning or
something.

Frasier: Claire, you are in mourning. But you're not mourning the
loss of your boyfriend. You're mourning the loss of what
you thought your life was going to be. Let it go. Things
don't always work out how you planned; that's not necessarily
bad. Things have a way of working out anyway. [pause]
Have you ever heard of Lupe Velez?

:lol: Ironically, I just read about that at imdb.

How can a person's suicide note be awesome? How can they interest you? Those people are in so much pain, they have no last resort....how can anyone who tried to or succeeded in killing themselves last thoughts or words be a source of entertainment? I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, but I find this to be somewhat morbid.

How can a person's suicide note be awesome? How can they interest you? Those people are in so much pain, they have no last resort....how can anyone who tried to or succeeded in killing themselves last thoughts or words be a source of entertainment? I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, but I find this to be somewhat morbid.

I find it interesting from a psychology point of view. What provokes people to do this is...well, interesting, because it's abnormal.

^ I see what you mean, Gizmo1, but I can sort of understand how someone would find somebody's suicide note interesting. They recognise that the suicide itself was a horrible tragedy, and they feel sorry for the people who were affected, but I think it's also an interest in the mind and psychology and stuff. For example, I'm very much interested in mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia. I've read people's stories of schizophrenia, and found them to be interesting. I feel terribly sorry for the people whose lives have been affected by that horrible illness, but I find the stories of their hallucinations/hearing voices, etc, interesting, although it's a completely horrible disease and, as I said, I have the utmost sympathy for them. Anyway, I suppose it's a good thing there are some people interested in mental illnesses, or else there wouldn't be any psychiatrists to help...

I understand your point, but I don't think that people necessarily view suicide as good, or even as the best entertainment. I suppose it's like at the scene of an accident, when bystanders watch - they find they can't take their eyes away from it, even though it's horrible. I suppose it's kind of like that.

Yes, I can see now where some may think it is interesting on a psychological basis. I also find diseases and mental illnesses interesting...I guess...like you said...some my find it interesting on that level like we find such disorders interesting to study.

Yes, I can see now where some may think it is interesting on a psychological basis. I also find diseases and mental illnesses interesting...I guess...like you said...some my find it interesting on that level like we find such disorders interesting to study.
yeah that's what i meant, i find it interesting psychologically and because i can relate. i'm not amused by it.