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Nipsey Russell
08-29-2005, 04:19 PM
I was reading on another thread that Albert was killed off with leukemia. (Tragedy on LHOTP??? Imagine that!) Anyway, I never realized that he died on the series. Another poster, however, stated that maybe Albert didn't really die. What's the story?

Ireneparalegal
08-29-2005, 11:50 PM
I was reading on another thread that Albert was killed off with leukemia. (Tragedy on LHOTP??? Imagine that!) Anyway, I never realized that he died on the series. Another poster, however, stated that maybe Albert didn't really die. What's the story?
It was revealed that Albert had leukemia, but they never actually showed the character dying or dead. It is assumed that he would eventually die. They just showed him when he was told abt the illness and how he overcame the shock of it.

Nipsey Russell
08-30-2005, 04:44 PM
Did this occur on the last episode? If not, was Albert ever mentioned again?

Ireneparalegal
08-30-2005, 06:40 PM
It was one of the episodes under the new titled show, "Little House-A New Beginning". Charles and Albert came to Walnut Grove to visit and Albert had been feeling sick and having alot of nosebleeds. It was Doc Baker who diagnosed him. But it wasn't the final episode of the show.

Coffeecup
09-04-2005, 12:54 PM
I do remember an episode where Albert (I think it was Albert) who came back from somewhere with a drug addiction. Charles helped him through it and but I don't recall him going to die. There were scenes of Albert stealing from Doc Baker's office. It may have been a 2 parter. I am sadddened to hear the character die. I see those shows now and I end crying . They seem a bit morbid.

Ireneparalegal
09-06-2005, 01:08 AM
I do remember an episode where Albert (I think it was Albert) who came back from somewhere with a drug addiction. Charles helped him through it and but I don't recall him going to die. There were scenes of Albert stealing from Doc Baker's office. It may have been a 2 parter. I am sadddened to hear the character die. I see those shows now and I end crying . They seem a bit morbid.
Yeah, that episode was real sad. I recall when that episode first aired, they had a disclaimer right before the show started advising parental guidance. I remember the commercial for the up-coming episode where they said THE MOST SHOCKING LITTLE HOUSE EVER! It sure was considering the show was a family show. It wouldn't be shocking now. But yes, Albert had leukemia. They never showed him actually dying, the episode ended where I believe Albert was running up a hill or mountain and made it to the top and cried.

dandelion wine
09-07-2005, 02:07 PM
Wouldn't be shocking now, but it sure was at the time. Watching Albert going through such pain and torment, acting as a completely different person I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I just wanted him to be ok again. :(

kjsa
01-06-2006, 01:13 PM
Ok, you guys have two episodes mixed together, Albert and Charles visit Laura in a "New Beginning" where he is addited to the white stuff and yes he steals from Doc. Baker. Charles helps him overcome his addition by making him quite cold turkey and he goes through major withdrawls. It is a very powerful episode. But at the end of the show Albert never does drugs again and they go back home. It is later in the year when the two make another appearence on the show where Albert is having a lot of nosebleeds and is tired all the time. Charles and Isaiah take him to the doc. in Mankato and it is determined that he has a blood diease. At this point Albert had cleaned up his life and is working on becoming a doctor. Charles ask the doctor if there is maybe some mistake and that he was addited to drugs a while back and maybe this is a result of that, grasping at straws. They go back to Laura's where he wants to be, at the end of the episode he and Laura and her class are making their way up the big hill, something that is done every year by the class, Albert although tired and falls, gets nosebleeds makes it to the top. It never said if he died or what. In another episode where Laura is doing the voice over part, she says that Albert had become the town doctor of Walnut Grove. There were a few things out of wack of course. In real life for Laura, there was no Albert and Mary didn't go blind, Willie did and Nellie was actually a combination of three girls Laura knew as a child. So you have to draw your own conclusions, did Albert die young or become the doctor after Doc. Baker left.???

dave insinga
03-17-2006, 05:04 PM
its bugging me because i remember the episode and i would like to see it again.

gidgetgrape
03-17-2006, 07:37 PM
Albert being sick always makes me cry! It's almost too much to watch. Especially the part when Charles talks to Laura about it. :(

Albert discovered he was dying in the Little House TV Movie, "Look Back to Yesterday." It was the first of the three TV movies that wrapped up the series. The other two TV movies are "The Last Farewell" (the one where the town is blown up) and "Bless All the Dear Children" (the one where Laura's daughter is kidnapped). Albert isn't in either of those movies so I guess we can assume he did die even though he didn't die in "Look Back In Yesterday". I read on tvshowsondvd.com that all the movies will be released in the future. I taped them earlier this year when The Hallmark Channel had a Little House Movie Marathon.

About Look Back To Yesterday:
When Charles found out about Albert's leukemia he told the doctor about Albert's drug use, but the doctor assured him that the drugs didn't have anything to do with it. When Albert found out he was dying he wanted to stay in Walnut Grove (he and Charles were visiting as an earlier post stated) and do the things he did when he was a kid. Charles wanted him to go back and be with Caroline and his sisters. Laura gets upset when he starts to date a former classmate and helps with the latest town project. She wanted him to stay home and rest. Eventually, she decided to support him in whatever he wanted to do. Laura and Albert are last seen holding hands at the top of a mountain they climbed. It was a tradition for each class to climb the mountain and leave behind something for a future generation. Albert decided he wanted to climb the mountain one more time.:(

Ireneparalegal
03-17-2006, 07:57 PM
Ok, you guys have two episodes mixed together, Albert and Charles visit Laura in a "New Beginning" where he is addited to the white stuff and yes he steals from Doc. Baker. Charles helps him overcome his addition by making him quite cold turkey and he goes through major withdrawls. It is a very powerful episode. But at the end of the show Albert never does drugs again and they go back home. It is later in the year when the two make another appearence on the show where Albert is having a lot of nosebleeds and is tired all the time. Charles and Isaiah take him to the doc. in Mankato and it is determined that he has a blood diease. At this point Albert had cleaned up his life and is working on becoming a doctor. Charles ask the doctor if there is maybe some mistake and that he was addited to drugs a while back and maybe this is a result of that, grasping at straws. They go back to Laura's where he wants to be, at the end of the episode he and Laura and her class are making their way up the big hill, something that is done every year by the class, Albert although tired and falls, gets nosebleeds makes it to the top. It never said if he died or what. In another episode where Laura is doing the voice over part, she says that Albert had become the town doctor of Walnut Grove. There were a few things out of wack of course. In real life for Laura, there was no Albert and Mary didn't go blind, Willie did and Nellie was actually a combination of three girls Laura knew as a child. So you have to draw your own conclusions, did Albert die young or become the doctor after Doc. Baker left.???
We don't have two episodes mixed up. The poster was asking abt Albert having a drug addiction, in addition to the episode where Albert was dying. We were posting our info on BOTH EPISODES.

gidgetgrape
03-17-2006, 08:01 PM
Here are some (bad) screencaps from "Look Back." The first one is of Albert putting his offering into the treasure box.

Sterling Holobyte
03-17-2006, 10:21 PM
Since Albert didn't exist in real life, therefore he couldn't have died.
There!!;) :D

dave insinga
03-18-2006, 01:09 PM
i knew it was something like that .i m hoping for all those end movies on dvd.

Cashodeen
03-25-2006, 02:02 AM
Ok, you guys have two episodes mixed together, Albert and Charles visit Laura in a "New Beginning" where he is addited to the white stuff and yes he steals from Doc. Baker. Charles helps him overcome his addition by making him quite cold turkey and he goes through major withdrawls. It is a very powerful episode. But at the end of the show Albert never does drugs again and they go back home. It is later in the year when the two make another appearence on the show where Albert is having a lot of nosebleeds and is tired all the time. Charles and Isaiah take him to the doc. in Mankato and it is determined that he has a blood diease. At this point Albert had cleaned up his life and is working on becoming a doctor. Charles ask the doctor if there is maybe some mistake and that he was addited to drugs a while back and maybe this is a result of that, grasping at straws. They go back to Laura's where he wants to be, at the end of the episode he and Laura and her class are making their way up the big hill, something that is done every year by the class, Albert although tired and falls, gets nosebleeds makes it to the top. It never said if he died or what. In another episode where Laura is doing the voice over part, she says that Albert had become the town doctor of Walnut Grove. There were a few things out of wack of course. In real life for Laura, there was no Albert and Mary didn't go blind, Willie did and Nellie was actually a combination of three girls Laura knew as a child. So you have to draw your own conclusions, did Albert die young or become the doctor after Doc. Baker left.???

Mary Ingalls did go blind in real life. It just did not happen the same way it happened on the show.

Cashodeen
03-25-2006, 02:06 AM
ALBERT DID NOT, I REPEAT

DID

NOT

HAVE

LEUKEMIA in Look Back To Yesterday.

Ireneparalegal
03-25-2006, 03:12 AM
ALBERT DID NOT, I REPEAT

DID

NOT

HAVE

LEUKEMIA in Look Back To Yesterday.
Ok, it may not have been leukemia, it was never said in the show. However, they mentioned blood disease and since there was no cure for leukemia then, it is assumed that's what it was.
Remember the Ingalls biological son died weeks after he was born? He also had a blood disease. The symptoms sound so similar to Albert's. It is also assumed the baby died of leukemia.
The friend of Laura's who wanted to see the ocean...didn't he have leukemia?

In episode 178 Laura is narrating the end of the story talking abt Albert's fight with morphine...she states that 20 years later he is DR. ALBERT INGALLS. Can we assume then he didn't die of his "blood disorder"? Then again, Walnut Grove was blown up, there was no more town, so how could Albert return to a town as a doctor if the town was no longer there?

Cashodeen
03-25-2006, 04:38 AM
Ok, it may not have been leukemia, it was never said in the show. However, they mentioned blood disease and since there was no cure for leukemia then, it is assumed that's what it was.
Remember the Ingalls biological son died weeks after he was born? He also had a blood disease. The symptoms sound so similar to Albert's. It is also assumed the baby died of leukemia.
The friend of Laura's who wanted to see the ocean...didn't he have leukemia?

In episode 178 Laura is narrating the end of the story talking abt Albert's fight with morphine...she states that 20 years later he is DR. ALBERT INGALLS. Can we assume then he didn't die of his "blood disorder"? Then again, Walnut Grove was blown up, there was no more town, so how could Albert return to a town as a doctor if the town was no longer there?

I get a little carried away about blood diseases, lol. I've discussed this a few times before--on this board and another LH board. Since Dillon, Albert and Laura's friend, who they take to see the ocean was diagnosed with leukemia, I've been pretty certain Albert and Charles II were not diagnosed with it. Dr. Baker was able to give Dillion's mother the name "leukemia" yet Albert and Charles II were not given names for their diseases. It is true leukemia was diagnosable back then, so I've felt the writers meant for other diseases to affect Albert and Charles II. Personally, I think Albert was meant to have Aplastic Anemia, and Charles II perhaps thalassemia.

That's a good point about the town behind blown up and Walnut Grove ceasing to exist. If one wants to assume Albert did survive his disease so the "Home Again" narration by Laura was accruate, there is still a question about him coming back and being a doctor there later on. I've always figured the town was eventually rebuilt. Afterall, there is a real Walnut Grove currently in MN. So it would stand to reason, for the show's purposes, that the town was, in fact, rebuilt in time for Albert to have a practice there.

Cashodeen
03-25-2006, 04:48 AM
And about Albert not dying of his blood disorder: Certainly, I'd like to believe he survived, and Laura's narration was accurate. That's why I like the aplastic anemia diagnosis. From what I remember, aplastic anemia wasn't given that name until 1890--after Albert was diagnosed. Yet this disease was recognizable in blood tests years before that. Most importantly, someone can have what appears to be aplastic anemia, but they're actually having a temporary blood problem that can clear up on it's own. That's what I'd like to think happened to Albert. Doctors thought it looked like aplastic anemia, but it was only temporary. He recovers after "Look Back," survives, and goes on to be a doc himself.

dave insinga
03-26-2006, 09:57 AM
not every thing has to be accurate ,i believe albert died before the end of the series he was ill fated in A LOOK BACK AT YESTERDAY .the show was hoping to go on longer than it did thats why in HOME AGAIN laura may have said what they said about him coming back to be dr. albert lngles just so the HOME AGAIN episode ended on a positive note it was a message not to do drugs from landon to the many younger viewers of the show.

Ireneparalegal
03-26-2006, 06:55 PM
not every thing has to be accurate ,i believe albert died before the end of the series he was ill fated in A LOOK BACK AT YESTERDAY .the show was hoping to go on longer than it did thats why in HOME AGAIN laura may have said what they said about him coming back to be dr. albert lngles just so the HOME AGAIN episode ended on a positive note it was a message not to do drugs from landon to the many younger viewers of the show.
I don't know abt the rest of you, but I get tired of seeing people post "it's just a tv show"...

we are here on this forum to talk, discuss, analyze, find humor, talk seriously, etc. abt shows...it would get boring if we just had the usual talk abt shows such as "What's your fave episode?" "What's your fave character?" that gets dead after a while. We know it's a tv show...leave us be...we have been analyzing shows, having discussions abt them, so it would be nice to not be "told" it's "just a tv show"...

Mr. Television
03-26-2006, 07:00 PM
Perhaps we should just have an It's Just A TV Show Board so these people can discuss those things and leave the rest of us alone.

Ireneparalegal
03-26-2006, 07:03 PM
Perhaps we should just have an It's Just A TV Show Board so these people can discuss those things and leave the rest of us alone.
Exactly. I made a thread abt this damn subject.

Cashodeen
03-27-2006, 12:05 AM
I don't know abt the rest of you, but I get tired of seeing people post "it's just a tv show"...

we are here on this forum to talk, discuss, analyze, find humor, talk seriously, etc. abt shows...it would get boring if we just had the usual talk abt shows such as "What's your fave episode?" "What's your fave character?" that gets dead after a while. We know it's a tv show...leave us be...we have been analyzing shows, having discussions abt them, so it would be nice to not be "told" it's "just a tv show"...

I totally agree!

dave insinga, obviously the truth is that the writer's made a mistake in contradicting Albert's situation. True fans of series prefer realism though and try to make sense of something because we get caught up in the characters and storylines.

I'm really tired of coming to tv show boards and having to explain it to people that don't get it. This is part of what message boards are for. To make sense out of a show even when it doesn't make sense.

dave insinga
03-27-2006, 04:18 PM
i was doing just that analizing the reasons the things happened the way they did i wasn't trying to be little anyone by saying its just a tv show.both of these episodes were very well written i was just saying that to try and make sense of what happened is not worth driving ourselves crazy about the whole thing.thats it .the show needed some good closing storylines to end a very good show.i just bought the 9th season on dvd.ive always liked final seasons
for this reason.so please call off the bounty hunters

Ireneparalegal
03-27-2006, 06:47 PM
i was doing just that analizing the reasons the things happened the way they did i wasn't trying to be little anyone by saying its just a tv show.both of these episodes were very well written i was just saying that to try and make sense of what happened is not worth driving ourselves crazy about the whole thing.thats it .the show needed some good closing storylines to end a very good show.i just bought the 9th season on dvd.ive always liked final seasons
for this reason.so please call off the bounty hunters
I can understand that. no one will bite your head off. I just feel as alot of other people feel that the writers, producers should remain consistent. I mean, it's irritating as hell to be told that a character ended up being a doctor 20 years later and then another episode we are told he is dying. The original thread was "what happened to Albert?" we all had the same idea that he had a blood disease; we all differ on whether it was leukemia or something else; we all differ on whether he actually died or not; the topic took a turn and it ends up with us trying to figure out certain things.

Cashodeen
03-29-2006, 07:06 AM
i was doing just that analizing the reasons the things happened the way they did i wasn't trying to be little anyone by saying its just a tv show.both of these episodes were very well written i was just saying that to try and make sense of what happened is not worth driving ourselves crazy about the whole thing.thats it .the show needed some good closing storylines to end a very good show.i just bought the 9th season on dvd.ive always liked final seasons
for this reason.so please call off the bounty hunters

Okay, I see what you're saying. I've just come across other people in the past with attitudes that a show doesn't have to be accurate because writer's make mistakes and they want to chastise anyone for discussing scenerios for the show to "make sense." By the way, I don't ever drive myself crazy over this sort of thing... I think these discussions are fun. :)

Cashodeen
03-29-2006, 07:12 AM
I can understand that. no one will bite your head off. I just feel as alot of other people feel that the writers, producers should remain consistent. I mean, it's irritating as hell to be told that a character ended up being a doctor 20 years later and then another episode we are told he is dying. The original thread was "what happened to Albert?" we all had the same idea that he had a blood disease; we all differ on whether it was leukemia or something else; we all differ on whether he actually died or not; the topic took a turn and it ends up with us trying to figure out certain things.

Hehe, do you personally still think it was leukemia? Not everyone has to agree with my conclusion--it actually took me a long time to come up with it. I thought it fit best with leukemia for a long time until I thought of how everyone knew leukemia back then--even country doctor, Dr. Baker recognized it. Albert's city doctor would have called it by it's name too, if he in fact had it.

Or maybe the writer's missed the mark again, lol.

Ireneparalegal
03-29-2006, 02:15 PM
Hehe, do you personally still think it was leukemia? Not everyone has to agree with my conclusion--it actually took me a long time to come up with it. I thought it fit best with leukemia for a long time until I thought of how everyone knew leukemia back then--even country doctor, Dr. Baker recognized it. Albert's city doctor would have called it by it's name too, if he in fact had it.

Or maybe the writer's missed the mark again, lol.
I noticed growing up alot of shows where the disease seemed "obvious" the name of the disease would not be mentioned. I don't know if it's because the writers didn't want to insert a name and have people "like us" telling them that such and such a disease was curable, incurable, the symptoms didn't match the disease, etc. I mean, I notice where there were movies when a disease is described to a tee you will eventually see a real doctor being credited at the end during the credits.
Maybe it was easier for Michael Landon to have the writers insert "blood disease" and leave it at that rather than say Leukemia, and try to be precise. Or maybe to not offend anyone who may have the disease. I don't know. Just a thought. Here is a link that describes the four major types of leukemia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leukemia
Yes, I assume it was leukemia that Albert had...LOL

dave insinga
03-29-2006, 03:48 PM
these last few tv movies were pretty good i was just wondering if anyone knew if and when they were planning to release these concluding 2 hour movies i haven't seen any of them in a very long time.i know halmark ran them awhile back but we don't have that channel on our cable network

Ireneparalegal
03-29-2006, 06:40 PM
these last few tv movies were pretty good i was just wondering if anyone knew if and when they were planning to release these concluding 2 hour movies i haven't seen any of them in a very long time.i know halmark ran them awhile back but we don't have that channel on our cable network
i notice that Hallmark shows parts edited out of LHOTP that TVLand or some of the other stations don't show. I like Hallmark. I am sorry u don't get it. I would like to know also abt the movies and possible DVD's on them. Have u ever tried to get them from a trader?

gidgetgrape
03-29-2006, 10:03 PM
According to tvshowsondvd.com, the movies will be released in the fall.

News link:
http://tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5201

dave insinga
03-29-2006, 10:08 PM
if i hear anying new ill be sure to post it .but the fall works for me.

gidgetgrape
03-29-2006, 11:05 PM
A few months ago, I was in Sam's Club and there was a lady loading LHOTP DVDs in her shopping cart like crazy. I looked because if they were on sale I wanted to get a set too! Turns out they weren't and the lady's husband walked over to her shouting, "These cost $35 a pop and we don't even own a DVD player!" :lol:

Ireneparalegal
03-30-2006, 02:11 AM
A few months ago, I was in Sam's Club and there was a lady loading LHOTP DVDs in her shopping cart like crazy. I looked because if they were on sale I wanted to get a set too! Turns out they weren't and the lady's husband walked over to her shouting, "These cost $35 a pop and we don't even own a DVD player!" :lol:
:lol: :crazy:

Cashodeen
04-02-2006, 06:30 AM
I noticed growing up alot of shows where the disease seemed "obvious" the name of the disease would not be mentioned. I don't know if it's because the writers didn't want to insert a name and have people "like us" telling them that such and such a disease was curable, incurable, the symptoms didn't match the disease, etc. I mean, I notice where there were movies when a disease is described to a tee you will eventually see a real doctor being credited at the end during the credits.
Maybe it was easier for Michael Landon to have the writers insert "blood disease" and leave it at that rather than say Leukemia, and try to be precise. Or maybe to not offend anyone who may have the disease. I don't know. Just a thought. Here is a link that describes the four major types of leukemia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leukemia
Yes, I assume it was leukemia that Albert had...LOL

Hehe, I didn't need the wikipedia.org link on leukemia. I am one of the wikipedia contributors to the article you gave me and on one of the 4 types of leukemia. I've written a 10 page report on acute myelogenous leukemia and want to specialize in acute leukemia research. I know virtually all symptoms of leukemia, and Albert definitely had them. He also had the symptoms of aplastic anemia. The disease is very similiar to leukemia.

It is interesting that shows will leave out the specific name of a disease. Little House did it multiple times and it wasn't just because the disease lacked a name in the 19th century. For example, they left out the disease's name of the biological mother of the Edward's children, yet Dr. Baker knew what it was specificially. The writers very well may have meant for Albert to have leukemia. It's a little strange they would give the diagnosis for Dillion though and not Albert. Maybe I'm giving the writers' too much credit, but aplastic anemia fits better. The only thing the doctor on Look Back said that didn't make much sense is when he said Albert had had the disease for "a long time." That isn't definitive of aplastic anemia. Usually not definitive of leukemia either. But then, it is the 1800s.

...And it is only tv, lol.

Tweety
07-30-2006, 09:41 PM
Mary Ingalls did go blind in real life. It just did not happen the same way it happened on the show.

True...also, the real Mary Ingalls never married, although she apparently was a pretty woman... I think she lived out her later years with Carrie, and Carrie's kind of took care of her until she died.

Ireneparalegal
07-30-2006, 10:33 PM
Not trying to be mean, but here is a link to a thread I made, there is a pic of the real Mary Ingalls at the bottom...she is not at all pretty, IMO:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=170907

Wawwie
07-31-2006, 12:33 AM
Since Albert didn't exist in real life, therefore he couldn't have died.
There!!;) :D
Yep, there was NO Albert, Mary never got married and she never had a baby. She really did go blind though.
A lot of stuff in Little House was made up. I'm reading the books by Laura Ingalls Wilder. I always did love that show.

Ireneparalegal
08-03-2006, 01:35 PM
I had seen the episode abt two weeks ago and the information provided for the tv guide stated that "Albert is dying of a virulent blood disease". Now, that can mean a few things, anyone want to guess?