and if the GFDL is right, a very severe one. The official forecast is for a Cat 1, but it appears to be rapidly intensifying tonight. Pay very close attention.

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 6
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT WED AUG 24 2005

...KATRINA HEADING WESTWARD FOR SOUTH FLORIDA...HURRICANE WARNINGS
IN EFFECT...

AT 11 PM EDT...0300Z...A HURRICANE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE
SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST FROM VERO BEACH SOUTHWARD TO FLORIDA
CITY...INCLUDING LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT
HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN
THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY
SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTHWEST
BAHAMAS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EAST-CENTRAL
FLORIDA COAST FROM NORTH OF VERO BEACH NORTHWARD TO TITUSVILLE
...INCLUDING ALL OF MERRITT ISLAND AND FOR THE MIDDLE AND UPPER
FLORIDA KEYS FROM WEST OF THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE NORTHWARD TO SOUTH
OF FLORIDA CITY. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36
HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 11 PM EDT...0300Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM KATRINA WAS
ESTIMATED BY THE MIAMI RADAR NEAR LATITUDE 26.0 NORTH...LONGITUDE
78.0 WEST OR ABOUT 60 MILES... 95 KM...SOUTHEAST OF FREEPORT GRAND
BAHAMA ISLAND AND ABOUT 135 MILES... 220 KM...EAST OF THE SOUTHEAST
COAST OF FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS NOW MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 8 MPH ...13 KM/HR...AND
THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS
MOTION WOULD BRING THE CENTER OF KATRINA INTO THE FLORIDA STRAITS
ON THURSDAY NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH...85 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A HURRICANE ON THURSDAY BEFORE
REACHING THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA EAST COAST. ANOTHER RECONNAISSANCE
PLANE IS EXPECTED TO REACH KATRINA IN A FEW HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 70 MILES...110 KM
FROM THE CENTER. SETTLEMENT POINT ON GRAN BAHAMA ISLAND JUST
REPORTED A WIND GUST OF 43 MPH...69 KM/HR.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1001 MB...29.56 INCHES.

DUE TO ITS SLOW FORWARD SPEED...KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE A
SIGNIFICANT HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT OVER THE NORTHWEST BAHAMAS...AND
SOUTH FLORIDA... WITH TOTAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO 12
INCHES AND ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 TO 20 INCHES POSSIBLE.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 3 TO 5 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES... CAN BE EXPECTED
NEAR THE CENTER IN AREAS OF ONSHORE WINDS IN THE BAHAMAS.

REPEATING THE 11 PM EDT POSITION...26.0 N... 78.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 50 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1001 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 2 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 AM
EDT.

FORECASTER AVILA

TROPICAL STORM KATRINA DISCUSSION NUMBER 6
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT WED AUG 24 2005

THE 2300Z RECONNAISSANCE FIX AND RADAR DATA FROM MIAMI AND THE
BAHAMAS INDICATE THAT KATRINA HAS TURNED TOWARD THE WEST DURING THE
LAST COUPLE OF HOURS. IT APPEARS THAT THE CYCLONE IS ALREADY SOUTH
OF THE RIDGE AND EMBEDDED WITHIN WEAK STEERING CURRENTS. THIS
PATTERN WOULD FORCE KATRINA TO MOVE VERY SLOWLY ON A GENERAL
WESTWARD TRACK FOR THE NEXT 24 TO 48 HOURS. THIS MEANS THAT THE
CYCLONE WILL LIKELY BE CROSSING THE SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA
THURSDAY NIGHT AND ALL DAY FRIDAY. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
RELIABLE DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE WHICH FOR THE FIRST TWO DAYS...BRINGS
THE CYCLONE SLOWLY WESTWARD. BEYOND THREE DAYS...WHEN KATRINA IS
FORECAST TO BE IN THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO...THE MODELS DIVERGE
SIGNIFICANTLY...SUGGESTING TRACKS WHICH COVER THE COAST FROM
MISSISSIPPI EASTWARD. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TURNS KATRINA NORTHWARD
OVER THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO AHEAD OF A STRONG APPROACHING
TROUGH...ON A TRACK WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO THE GLOBAL MODEL
CONSENSUS. THIS FORECAST IS RATHER DIFFICULT SINCE ONE OF THE MORE
RELIABLE MODELS...THE GFS...SHOWS THAT THE CYCLONE BARELY TOUCHES
THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA BEFORE MOVING NORTHWARD....WHILE THE
OUTSTANDING GFDL MOVES KATRINA SOUTH OF DUE WEST ACROSS EXTREME
SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE KEYS AS A VERY INTENSE HURRICANE. THE GFDL
SCENARIO WOULD BE VERY DANGEROUS FOR SOUTH FLORIDA. THIS APPEARS TO
BE UNREALISTIC AT THIS TIME BUT BECAUSE OF THE GOOD PAST
PERFORMANCE OF THIS MODEL...WE MUST PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO FUTURE
MODEL RUNS.
THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 45 KNOTS BASED ON DVORAK
ESTIMATES FROM ALL AGENCIES AND A BETTER RADAR PRESENTATION. LATEST
RECONNAISSANCE DATA AT 2300 UTC DID NOT SHOW INTENSIFICATION AND
THE PRESSURE WAS NOT DROPPING. HOWEVER...THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY
FORECAST CALLS FOR A GRADUAL STRENGTHENING...AND MAKES KATRINA A
CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE BEFORE LANDFALL...SINCE THERE IS LOW SHEAR
AND HIGH SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES ALONG KATRINA'S PATH. THE
INTENSITY FORECAST FOLLOWS THE SHIPS MODEL BUT KATRINA COULD
INTENSIFY A LITTLE MORE THAN ANTICIPATED.

BECAUSE IT IS FORECAST THAT KATRINA BECOMES A HURRICANE BEFORE
LANDFALL...A HURRICANE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR A PORTION OF THE
EAST FLORIDA COAST.

FORECASTER AVILA


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 25/0300Z 26.0N 78.0W 45 KT
12HR VT 25/1200Z 26.0N 78.8W 55 KT
24HR VT 26/0000Z 26.0N 79.5W 65 KT
36HR VT 26/1200Z 26.0N 80.5W 50 KT...INLAND
48HR VT 27/0000Z 26.3N 81.5W 40 KT...INLAND
72HR VT 28/0000Z 27.0N 83.0W 50 KT...OVER WATER
96HR VT 29/0000Z 29.0N 85.0W 70 KT
120HR VT 30/0000Z 32.0N 84.0W 30 KT...INLAND

Projected path:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT12/refresh/AL1205W5+gif/024947W_sm.gif

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 9
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT THU AUG 25 2005

...STRENGTHENING HURRICANE KATRINA BEARING DOWN ON THE SOUTHEAST
COAST OF FLORIDA...
...NEW WARNINGS AND WATCHES ISSUED FOR FLORIDA...

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...THE HURRICANE WARNING HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED
ALONG THE FLORIDA EAST COAST NORTH OF JUPITER INLET. A HURRICANE
WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST FROM
JUPITER INLET SOUTHWARD TO FLORIDA CITY...INCLUDING LAKE
OKEECHOBEE. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE
BEEN COMPLETED.

AT 5 PM EDT...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR ALL OF
THE FLORIDA KEYS AND FLORIDA BAY FROM KEY WEST NORTHWARD. A
TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS ALSO BEEN ISSUED ALONG THE GULF COAST OF
FLORIDA FROM LONGBOAT KEY SOUTH AND EASTWARD TO SOUTH OF FLORIDA
CITY. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT ALONG THE FLORIDA
EAST COAST FROM NORTH OF JUPITER INLET TO VERO BEACH.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND
...BIMINI...AND THE BERRY ISLANDS IN THE NORTHWEST BAHAMAS. THIS
WARNING MAY BE DISCONTINUED LATER TONIGHT.

AT 5 PM EDT...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR PORTIONS
THE FLORIDA WEST COAST FROM NORTH OF LONGBOAT KEY TO ANCLOTE KEY. A
TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EAST-CENTRAL FLORIDA
COAST FROM NORTH OF VERO BEACH TO TITUSVILLE... INCLUDING ALL OF
MERRITT ISLAND. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA... GENERALLY WITHIN
36 HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.1 NORTH... LONGITUDE 79.9 WEST OR ABOUT 15 MILES
EAST-NORTHEAST OF FORT LAUDERDALE FLORIDA AND ABOUT 25 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF BOCA RATON FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 6 MPH... 9 KM/HR...AND THIS
GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
ON THIS TRACK... THE CENTER SHOULD MOVE INLAND ALONG SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA COAST LATER THIS EVENING.

REPORTS FROM A NOAA RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT AND THE MIAMI NOAA
DOPPLER RADAR INDICATE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO
75 MPH... WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS NOW A CATEGORY ONE
HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME SLIGHT STRENGTHENING
IS POSSIBLE BEFORE LANDFALL OCCURS...WITH WEAKENING EXPECTED
AFTERWARDS AS KATRINA MOVES INLAND ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE
EVERGLADES TONIGHT AND FRIDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES... 30 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 80 MILES...130 KM. DURING THE PAST HOUR...A GUST TO 64 MPH WAS
REPORTED AT BOCA RATON. DATA FROM A NOAA RECONNAISSANCE DATA AND
NOAA DOPPLER RADARS INDICATE SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM-FORCE WINDS
ARE MOVING ONSHORE THE COASTAL AREAS OF PALM BEACH...BROWARD...AND
MIAMI-DADE COUNTIES IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY A NOAA
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 985 MB...29.09 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED
NEAR AND TO THE NORTH OF WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL IN FLORIDA.
STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE ALSO
EXPECTED IN AREAS OF ONSHORE WINDS IN THE BAHAMAS. STORM SURGE
VALUES WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE IN THE BAHAMAS LATER TODAY.

DUE TO ITS SLOW FORWARD SPEED...KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE A
SIGNIFICANT HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT OVER SOUTH FLORIDA...AND THE
CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST BAHAMAS. TOTAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO
10 INCHES WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE OVER SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND
THE FLORIDA KEYS.

REPEATING THE 5 PM EDT POSITION...26.1 N... 79.9 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 75 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 985 MB.

INTERMEDIATE ADVISORIES WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 7 PM EDT AND 9 PM EDT FOLLOWED
BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 11 PM EDT.

FORECASTER STEWART

Strengthening since it made landfall? WOW...

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 9B
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
9 PM EDT THU AUG 25 2005

...KATRINA RELENTLESSLY POUNDING SOUTH FLORIDA...CALM OF THE LARGE
EYE EXPERIENCED AT THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA
COAST FROM JUPITER INLET SOUTHWARD TO FLORIDA CITY...INCLUDING LAKE
OKEECHOBEE. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE
BEEN COMPLETED.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR ALL OF THE FLORIDA KEYS
AND FLORIDA BAY FROM KEY WEST NORTHWARD. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING
IS ALSO IN EFFECT ALONG THE GULF COAST OF FLORIDA FROM LONGBOAT KEY
SOUTH AND EASTWARD TO SOUTH OF FLORIDA CITY. A TROPICAL STORM
WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT ALONG THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM NORTH
OF JUPITER INLET TO VERO BEACH.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS THE FLORIDA WEST
COAST FROM NORTH OF LONGBOAT KEY TO ANCLOTE KEY AND FOR THE
EAST-CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST FROM NORTH OF VERO BEACH TO TITUSVILLE
...INCLUDING ALL OF MERRITT ISLAND. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS
THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 9 PM EDT...0100Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 25.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 80.4 WEST. THIS POSITION IS
JUST TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE MIAMI NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.

KATRINA IS MOVING SOUTH OF DUE WEST NEAR 6 MPH AND THIS GENERAL
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ON THIS
TRACK...THE KATRINA SHOULD MOVE FARTHER INLAND ALONG SOUTH FLORIDA
TONIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE 80 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS A
CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. STRONGER
WINDS...ESPECIALLY IN GUSTS...ARE LIKELY ON HIGH RISING BUILDINGS.
A GRADUAL WEAKENING IS EXPECTED AS KATRINA CONTINUES TO MOVE INLAND
ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE EVERGLADES TONIGHT AND EARLY FRIDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 15 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 80 MILES.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 984 MB... 29.06 INCHES. THE
MIAMI NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE JUST MEASURED A
PRESSURE OF 985 MB...29.09 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED
NEAR AND TO THE NORTH OF THE LANDFALL POINT.

DUE TO ITS SLOW FORWARD SPEED...KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE A
SIGNIFICANT HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT OVER SOUTH FLORIDA...AND THE
CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST BAHAMAS. TOTAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO
10 INCHES WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE OVER SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND
THE FLORIDA KEYS.

REPEATING THE 9 PM EDT POSITION...25.8 N... 80.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 6 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 80 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 984 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
11 PM EDT.

FORECASTER AVILA

I just heard that two people have died already by falling trees. :(

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
918 PM EDT THU AUG 25 2005

FLZ071>074-260215-
BROWARD METROPOLITAN-MIAMI-DADE METROPOLITAN-WESTERN BROWARD-
WESTERN MIAMI DADE-
918 PM EDT THU AUG 25 2005

...HURRICANE FORCE WINDS CONTINUE ACROSS MIAMI-DADE AND BROWARD
COUNTIES...
...86 MPH WIND GUST RECORDED AT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE...

AT 910 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED THE
CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED NEAR TAMIAMI TRAIL JUST
WEST OF THE MIAMI METRO AREA. WIND GUSTS TO HURRICANE FORCE CONTINUE
TO BATTER MOST OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY...WITH TROPICAL STORM FORCE
GUSTS CONTINUING OVER BROWARD COUNTY.

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE IN WEST MIAMI RECORDED
A WIND GUST TO 86 MPH AT 917 PM EDT. EXPECT THESE WINDS TO CONTINUE
FOR THE NEXT COUPLE HOURS...ESPECIALLY OVER WESTERN AND SOUTHERN
MIAMI-DADE.

CONDITIONS ARE EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS ACROSS THE AREA...AND VENTURING
OUTDOORS IS STRONGLY DISCOURAGED. TWO FATALITIES HAVE ALREADY
OCCURRED IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA THIS EVENING...DON'T MAKE YOURSELF
ANOTHER STATISTIC.

STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO AND OTHER LOCAL MEDIA FOR FURTHER
DETAILS OR UPDATES.

Four Dead As Katrina Slams South Florida
Hurricane Makes Landfall In Hallandale Beach

POSTED: 5:09 pm EDT August 23, 2005
UPDATED: 12:54 am EDT August 26, 2005

MIAMI -- Hurricane Katrina toppled trees, peeled off roofs and left more than 1.3 million customers without power as it slammed into Florida's densely populated southeastern coast Thursday with driving rains and sustained winds of 80 mph. Four people were killed, three by falling trees.

Now a tropical storm... but likely to be a hurricane once again sometime later today. It's re-emerging right now.

I guess the VMA's might be canceled.

they should canceled it.

She's not done yet... she's now stronger than when she hit Miami and she's got 3 days of nothing but steamy water ahead.

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 13
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT FRI AUG 26 2005

...KATRINA RAPIDLY STRENGTHENING AS IT MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD AWAY
FROM SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE FLORIDA KEYS...

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE SOUTHEAST
FLORIDA COAST FROM FLORIDA CITY NORTHWARD HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF THE FLORIDA
KEYS AND FLORIDA BAY FROM DRY TORTUGAS NORTHWARD... AND ALONG THE
FLORIDA GULF COAST FROM SOUTH OF FLORIDA CITY WESTWARD AND NORTHWARD
TO LONGBOAT KEY. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL
STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA
WEST COAST FROM NORTH OF LONGBOAT KEY TO ANCLOTE KEY. A TROPICAL
STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE
WITHIN THE WATCH AREA... GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 1130 AM EDT...1530Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 25.1 NORTH... LONGITUDE 82.2 WEST OR ABOUT 45 MILES
NORTHWEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA AND ABOUT 75 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF
NAPLES FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 7 MPH...AND THIS MOTION IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

RECENT REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT HURRICANE HUNTER
AIRCRAFT NOW INDICATE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 100 MPH...
WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS NOW A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS...AND KATRINA COULD BECOME A CATEGORY THREE OR MAJOR
HURRICANE ON SATURDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 25 MILES... 35 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 85 MILES. ANOTHER RECENT REPORT FROM A NOAA SHIP ANCHORED IN KEY
WEST HARBOR INDICATED WIND GUSTS TO 86 MPH WERE STILL OCCURRING IN
HEAVY RAIN SQUALLS.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT IS 971 MB...28.67 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 3 TO 5 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA IN AREAS OF ONSHORE
FLOW SOUTH OF VENICE... AND IN FLORIDA BAY. STORM SURGE SHOULD
CONTINUE TO DECREASE THIS MORNING ALONG THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL OF 5 TO 8 INCHES
OVER THE FLORIDA KEYS AND 3 TO 5 INCHES OVER NORTHWESTERN CUBA.
ISOLATED STORM TOTAL AMOUNTS OF 15 TO 20 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE OVER
THE FLORIDA KEYS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE TODAY OVER EXTREME SOUTHERN FLORIDA
AND THE FLORIDA KEYS.

REPEATING THE 1130 AM EDT POSITION...25.1 N... 82.2 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 971 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 200 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 500 PM EDT.

FORECASTER STEWART

I guess the VMA's might be canceled.
I hope they just postpone them.

Anyway, to everyone whos getting hit with this storm, stay safe :(

Projected path:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT12/refresh/AL1205W5+gif/024947W_sm.gif
according to that, it's going to directly hit me

I hope they just postpone them.

Anyway, to everyone whos getting hit with this storm, stay safe :(

They will still take place, but some of the events today and tomorrow were cancelled.

according to that, it's going to directly hit me

Where do you live???

Current satellite:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/FLOAT/IR4/20.jpg

:eek:

As usual, we'll probably just get the remaining thunderstorms of it.

New NHC track is VERY close to New Orleans... that would be a catastrophe and a half. Looks like a Category 4 is likely... possibly a 5. :eek:

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 14
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT FRI AUG 26 2005

...KATRINA CONTINUING TO MOVE WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD AWAY FROM THE
FLORIDA KEYS...
...WATCHES AND WARNINGS DISCONTINUED FOR MAINLAND FLORIDA...

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...ALL WARNINGS AND WATCHES FOR PENINSULAR
FLORIDA HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS
AND FLORIDA BAY FROM KEY LARGO SOUTH AND WESTWARD TO KEY WEST AND
THE DRY TORTUGAS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 24.8 NORTH... LONGITUDE 82.9 WEST OR ABOUT 70
MILES... WEST-NORTHWEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. THIS MOTION
IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE THIS EVENING...WITH A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD
THE WEST EXPECTED ON SATURDAY.

RECENT REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT HURRICANE HUNTER
AIRCRAFT INDICATE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 100 MPH...
WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS...AND KATRINA IS FORECAST TO BECOME A CATEGORY THREE
...MAJOR... HURRICANE TODAY AND ON SATURDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 25 MILES... FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85
MILES. DURING THE PAST HOUR...A SUSTAINED WIND OF 81 MPH WITH A
GUST TO 105 MPH WAS REPORTED AT DRY TORTUGAS C-MAN STATION LOCATED
IN THE SOUTHERN EYEWALL. SUSTAINED WINDS OF TROPICAL STORM-FORCE
ARE STILL OCCURRING ACROSS THE LOWER FLORIDA KEYS...WHILE WIND
GUSTS TO TROPICAL STORM-FORCE ARE OCCURRING ACROSS THE MIDDLE TO
UPPER FLORIDA KEYS.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT WAS 965 MB...28.50 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE SOUTHWEST COAST OF FLORIDA IN AREAS OF
ONSHORE FLOW EAST OF CAPE SABLE... AND IN FLORIDA BAY. STORM SURGE
WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE TONIGHT.

KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL OF 5 TO 8 INCHES
OVER THE LOWER FLORIDA KEYS...WITH ISOLATED STORM TOTAL AMOUNTS OF
15 TO 20 INCHES. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE EXPECTED
OVER NORTHWESTERN CUBA...AND 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL IS EXPECTED
OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA OF MEXICO.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT OVER THE
FLORIDA KEYS.

REPEATING THE 5 PM EDT POSITION...24.8 N... 82.9 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 965 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 8 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 11 PM
EDT.

FORECASTER STEWART

***MODEL CONSENSUS ON NEW ORLEANS NOW***

***GFDL PREDICTING A 152 MPH... STRONG CATEGORY FOUR... JUST SOUTH OF NEW ORLEANS MONDAY AFTERNOON... THEN DIRECTLY OVER NEW ORLEANS***

***ALL OTHERS ARE CLUSTERED WITHIN 40-50 MILES WEST AND EAST OF THE CITY***

NOT GOOD...

The entire city is below sea level and would be destroyed if that happens...

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I know there is a hurricane in Florida. I hope my uncle is safe right now in Margate, Florida. I will go see my uncle in two weeks. Here is an article from WNBC.com:

Katrina Strengthens; 6 Dead, Family Found

Storm Grows To Category 2



UPDATED: 8:39 pm EDT August 26, 2005


The strong winds of Hurricane Katrina are being blamed for six deaths in Florida as utility crews work to restore power to more than 1 million customers.

Authorities said the storm-related deaths include three people who were killed by falling trees and two boaters who tried to ride out the storm aboard their boats in Miami. One died from injuries suffered while the storm buffeted his boat while the other died when his boat capsized.

The count had been put at seven, but authorities revised it downward to six after saying one death wasn't storm-related.

Katrina is on a path to make landfall anywhere from the Florida Panhandle to Louisiana, and could strike as a Category 4 storm as early as Monday.

There is some good news concerning a family of five that had been missing at sea. The Coast Guard said the couple and their three children have been rescued near Everglades City.

Katrina churned ashore in south Florida with 80 mph winds Thursday night before dumping 15 inches of rain or more as it crossed the peninsula. Dozens of families in Miami-Dade County have been flooded out of their homes. The National Hurricane Center describes it as a "significant heavy rainfall event." More than 1 million customers lost power.

All warnings and watches for peninsular Florida were discontinued Friday afternoon. A tropical storm warning remains in effect for the Florida Keys and Florida Bay, from Key Largo south and westward to Key West and the Dry Tortugas.

At 8 p.m. EDT, the center of Hurricane Katrina was located near latitude 24.7 north, longitude 83.3 west or about 100 miles west of Key West, Fla. Katrina is moving toward the west-southwest near 8 mph. This motion is forecast to continue this evening, with a gradual turn toward the west expected on Saturday.

Maximum sustained winds remain near 100 mph, with higher gusts, making Katrina a Category 2 hurricane. Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours, and Katrina is forecast to become a major Category 3 hurricane as soon as Friday night.

Storm surge flooding of 2 to 4 feet above normal tide levels can be expected along the southwest coast of Florida in areas of onshore flow east of Cape Sable, and in Florida Bay. Storm surge will gradually subside tonight.

Katrina is expected to produce additional rainfall of 5 to 8 inches over the lower Florida Keys, with isolated storm total amounts of 15 to 20 inches. Rainfall totals of 5 to 10 inches are expected over northwestern Cuba, and 1 to 3 inches of rainfall is expected over the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico.

Isolated tornadoes are possible this afternoon and Friday night over the Keys.

Katrina took an unexpected dive south after making landfall between Hallandale Beach and North Miami Beach as a Category 1 hurricane Thursday night, but the storm didn't weaken much.

"Normally, when a hurricane is on shore for five or six hours, the wind speed is cut in half. However, that has not happened with Katrina," the meteorologist said.

South Florida



In South Florida, rain fell in horizontal sheets, seas were estimated at 15 feet and wind gusted to 92 mph, toppling trees and street signs.

An overpass under construction in Miami-Dade County collapsed onto a highway, authorities said. No injuries were immediately reported.

The usually bustling streets of Miami Beach, a tourist haven, were largely deserted as the storm pounded the area.

"It's like a ghost town out here," said Mark Darress, concierge at The Astor Hotel in Miami Beach. "I see the random, not-so-smart people riding scooters every now and then."

Tourists and others hoping to get out of town before the storm were stranded as airlines canceled flights at Miami and Fort Lauderdale airports, which both closed Thursday night.

Three mobile home parks in Davie sustained considerable damage, according to the Broward Emergency Management Agency. "A lot of roofs are off," said Dennis Myers, a spokesman for the agency.

When the eye of the hurricane passed over the National Hurricane Center in west Miami-Dade County, forecasters ran outside to experience the calm at the center of the storm.

In an oceanfront condominium in Hallandale, Carolyne and Carter McHyman said heavy downpours once again pelted their windows after the eye passed.

"It's been horrible," Carolyne McHyman said. "Basically all our windows are leaking. We just keep mopping up and taping the windows, mopping up and taping again."

Before the hurricane struck, Floridians wary of Katrina prepared by putting up shutters, stacking sandbags in doorways and stocking up on supplies.

At a supermarket in Hollywood, Cassandra Butler hefted two five-gallon bottles of water as well as a 24-pack of smaller bottles into her shopping cart Thursday.

"It's not that I'm worried. I've been in south Florida all my life," Butler said. "But this is a feature of life down here, and you are smart to deal with it."

At a Home Depot in Miami, Jose Guerrera, 68, loaded 4-by-8 sheets of plywood onto a metal cart. He and his family huddled in their Coral Gables home as Hurricane Andrew screamed by in 1993 and he has been boarding up the house during hurricanes ever since. "I have to protect the doors and windows," Guerrera said. His wife, meanwhile, was shopping for water and food. "That's her problem. She's gotta take care of the food. I take care of the work."

Water management officials lowered canal levels to avoid possible flooding, and pumps were activated in several low-lying areas of Miami-Dade.

Dozens of surfers and spectators lined beaches from Palm Beach to Miami-Dade counties to take advantage of the massive waves on the normally placid seas, and long lines didn't seem to be a problem at most area gas stations, supermarkets and hardware stores.

"This is the best of both worlds because it'll bring great waves, but it is not at all dangerous," said surfer Kurt Johnston, 22, of Davie.

Katrina was the second hurricane to hit the state this year -- Dennis hit the Panhandle last month -- and the sixth since Aug. 13, 2004. Katrina formed Wednesday over the Bahamas and was expected to cross Florida before heading into the Gulf of Mexico.

After crossing the peninsula, the storm could turn to the north over the Gulf of Mexico and threaten the Panhandle early next week, forecasters said. Gov. Jeb Bush encouraged residents of Florida's Panhandle and Big Bend areas to monitor the storm.

Katrina is the 11th named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, which began June 1. That's seven more than have typically formed by now in the Atlantic, Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico, the hurricane center said. The season ends Nov. 30.

Hurricane's Impact



A look at the impact of Hurricane Katrina on southeast Florida:

Four people died in Broward County, officials said. Three were killed by falling trees and the fourth died when his car struck a tree.
As of 5 a.m., about 1.26 million customers were still without power, officials said. That included 705,000 customers in Miami-Dade County, 489,000 in Broward County and 23,000 in Palm Beach County. Florida Power and Light has said it will restore power as soon as possible, and some 1,900 workers were ready to address downed power lines and other damage.
An overpass under construction in Miami-Dade County collapsed onto State Road 8-36. No one was injured, but the freeway was closed from 87th street to 107th street.
Severe flooding was reported in Key Biscayne and Homestead in Miami-Dade County. Some flooding was also reported in Broward County, and flood watches were in effect for Charlotte, Desoto, Hardee, Highlands, Lee, Manatee, Martin and Sarasota counties.
Radars indicated up to 15 inches of rain fell in Key Biscayne, Sweetwater and the Coral Gables-Kendall area of Miami-Dade County. Rainfall in Miami-Dade was significantly higher than in Broward County, according to the National Weather Service.
Three mobile home parks in Davie sustained considerable damage and one person was trapped inside a mobile home, but officials didn't know whether the person was injured, according to the Broward Emergency Management Agency.
All divisions of the U.S. Court for the Southern District of Florida are closed today. That includes court offices in Key West, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach and Fort Pierce.
Martin County called for the evacuation of Hutchinson Island, Jupiter Island and Sewall's Point and all mobile and manufactured housing and residences within one-half mile of the county's waterways.
Port Everglades and the Port of Miami were closed to vessel traffic. Dozens of flights were canceled. Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport and Miami International Airport both closed last evening.
Public schools in Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, Collier, Hendry and Highlands counties were closed Friday.
The Broward County Athletic Association postponed its high school football season openers on Thursday and Friday. Most have been rescheduled for Monday. Miami-Dade County schools canceled their Thursday night games.
Tolls were suspended on Florida's Turnpike from central Miami-Dade County to southern Palm Beach County; the Sawgrass Expressway; and westbound Interstate 75.
Classes at the University of Miami, Nova Southeastern University's South Florida campuses, Florida International University, Broward Community College and Palm Beach Community College were canceled Friday.
St. Lucie County schools were closed Friday.
Florida School for the Deaf and the Blind in St. Augustine sent hundreds of students home to South Florida Wednesday so parents could decide whether to evacuate. The students normally return home each weekend.
The Broward Sheriff's Office and U.S. Coast Guard activated an emergency flotilla to move large pleasure boats upriver. Miami-Dade and Broward drawbridges were locked down for evacuating cars and for emergency vehicles.
The Florida Keys provided refuge for commercial and private aircraft escaping the hurricane warning area.

Wow, this is gonna be bad...

This hurricane will produce a lot of surf. . . .

KATRINA AND THE WAVES!

If it hits New Orleans it'll most likely be the worst natural disaster in US History. Hopefully if it DOES continue on that track, everyone gets out of there and doesnt underestimate it. If New Orleans took a direct hit, the future for anyone still in the city looks quite grim.

Latest track is horrible... western eyewall would hit New Orleans. Looks very very Camille-like.

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT FRI AUG 26 2005

...STUBBORN KATRINA CONTINUES TOWARD THE WEST-SOUTHWEST...EXPECTED
TO BECOME AN INTENSE HURRICANE IN THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO...

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR FLORIDA BAY AND FOR
THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM KEY LARGO SOUTHWARD AND WESTWARD TO KEY WEST
INCLUDING THE DRY TORTUGAS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 11 PM EDT...0300Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED BY
RADAR NEAR LATITUDE 24.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 83.6 WEST OR ABOUT 460
MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ABOUT 115
MILES WEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. A GRADUAL
TURN TO THE WEST AND WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED ON SATURDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 105 MPH WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. KATRINA IS A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON
SCALE. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE DURING THE
NEXT DAY OR TWO.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 25 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85
MILES.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 965 MB...28.50 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE SOUTHWEST COAST OF FLORIDA IN AREAS OF
ONSHORE FLOW EAST OF CAPE SABLE... AND IN FLORIDA BAY. STORM SURGE
WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE TONIGHT AND SATURDAY.

KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES
OVER NORTHWESTERN CUBA AND 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL IS EXPECTED
OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA. RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY DIMINISH
ACROSS THE LOWER FLORIDA KEYS...THOUGH ADDITIONAL 1 TO 2 INCHES OF
RAIN IS POSSIBLE IN SOME OF THE HEAVIER RAIN BANDS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE TONIGHT OVER THE FLORIDA KEYS.

REPEATING THE 11 PM EDT POSITION...24.6 N... 83.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 965 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 2 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 AM
EDT.

FORECASTER AVILA

If it hits New Orleans it'll most likely be the worst natural disaster in US History. Hopefully if it DOES continue on that track, everyone gets out of there and doesnt underestimate it. If New Orleans took a direct hit, the future for anyone still in the city looks quite grim.

That's part of the problem... everyone won't leave.

Complacency after Dennis and Ivan(and a handful of others) looked to be headed there... only to turn at the last minute.

BTW: A direct hit were virtually stop the oil flow down there... it would be an economic disaster. Ya'll think $2.60 a gallon for gas is high...

Hurricane Katrina becomes a major category 3...

000
WTNT32 KNHC 270847
TCPAT2
BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 16
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT SAT AUG 27 2005

...KATRINA BECOMES A MAJOR HURRICANE WITH 115 MPH WINDS...

AT 5 AM EDT... 0900Z... THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS BEEN
DISCONTINUED FROM THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE TO KEY LARGO FLORIDA AND
FOR FLORIDA BAY. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM
WEST OF THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE WESTWARD TO KEY WEST INCLUDING THE
DRY TORTUGAS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 5 AM EDT...0900Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED BY
RADAR AND RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT NEAR LATITUDE 24.4 NORTH...
LONGITUDE 84.4 WEST OR ABOUT 435 MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF
THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ABOUT 165 MILES WEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 7 MPH... 11 KM/HR. A
GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT
24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 115 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE.
SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT DATA AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT
KATRINA HAS BECOME A LARGER HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 40 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 150 MILES. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
ARE OCCURRING JUST OFFSHORE OF THE NORTHERN COAST OF WESTERN CUBA.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 945 MB...27.91 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE SOUTHWEST COAST OF FLORIDA IN AREAS OF
ONSHORE FLOW EAST OF CAPE SABLE... AND IN FLORIDA BAY. STORM SURGE
WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE TODAY.

KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES
OVER WESTERN CUBA... AND 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL IS EXPECTED
OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA. RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY DIMINISH
ACROSS THE LOWER FLORIDA KEYS TODAY... ALTHOUGH AN ADDITIONAL 1 TO 2
INCHES OF RAIN IS POSSIBLE IN SOME OF THE HEAVIER RAIN BANDS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE THIS MORNING OVER THE LOWER FLORIDA
KEYS.

REPEATING THE 5 AM EDT POSITION...24.4 N... 84.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...115 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 945 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 8 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 11 AM
EDT.

FORECASTER KNABB


$$

Not looking good for the New Orleans area...

Current sattelite image...It's rapidly intensifying. Pressure dropped from 965mb at 11pm to 945mb at 5am...

Still deepening, I'd say 115 mph is quite modest for that 940mb pressure...

000
WTNT32 KNHC 271146
TCPAT2
BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 16A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM EDT SAT AUG 27 2005

...KATRINA MOVING WESTWARD THROUGH THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO
WITH 115 MPH WINDS...

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM WEST OF THE SEVEN
MILE BRIDGE WESTWARD TO KEY WEST INCLUDING THE DRY TORTUGAS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 8 AM EDT...1200Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED BY
RADAR AND RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT NEAR LATITUDE 24.4 NORTH...
LONGITUDE 84.6 WEST OR ABOUT 430 MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF
THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ABOUT 180 MILES WEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 7 MPH... 11 KM/HR. A
GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT
24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 115 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE.
SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT DATA AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT
KATRINA HAS BECOME A LARGER HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 40 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 150 MILES. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
ARE OCCURRING JUST OFFSHORE OF THE NORTHERN COAST OF WESTERN CUBA.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 940 MB...27.91 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE SOUTHWEST COAST OF FLORIDA IN AREAS OF
ONSHORE FLOW EAST OF CAPE SABLE... AND IN FLORIDA BAY. STORM SURGE
WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE TODAY.

KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES
OVER WESTERN CUBA... AND 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL IS EXPECTED
OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA. RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY DIMINISH
ACROSS THE LOWER FLORIDA KEYS TODAY... ALTHOUGH AN ADDITIONAL 1 TO 2
INCHES OF RAIN IS POSSIBLE IN SOME OF THE HEAVIER RAIN BANDS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE THIS MORNING OVER THE LOWER FLORIDA
KEYS.

REPEATING THE 8 AM EDT POSITION...24.4 N... 84.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...115 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 940 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 11 AM EDT.

FORECASTER BEVEN


$$

Head for the hills! :eek:

Definetly going to be an interesting storm to watch...People in the New Orleans area need to prepare to get out quickly. It's definetly going to be a very intense storm at landfall.

KATRINA SHOULD STRENGTHEN SLOWLY FOR THE FIRST 12 HR OR SO AS THE
CONCENTRIC EYEWALL COMPLETES AND SOME RESIDUAL NORTHERLY SHEAR
AFFECTS THE STORM. AFTER THAT...IT SHOULD STRENGTHEN IN A LIGHT
SHEAR ENVIRONMENT OVER VERY WARM WATER. THE INTENSITY FORECAST
CALLS FOR THE HURRICANE TO REACH 125 KT IN 48 HR AS A COMPROMISE
BETWEEN THE 120 KT GFDL...THE 126 KT GFDN...THE 127 KT SHIPS...AND
THE 132 KT FSU SUPERENSEMBLE MODELS. HOWEVER...IT IS NOT OUT OF
THE QUESTION THAT KATRINA COULD REACH CATEGORY 5 STATUS AT SOME
POINT BEFORE LANDFALL.

This hurricane will produce a lot of surf. . . .

KATRINA AND THE WAVES!

The TV station in Cleveland made a joke about people in Florida not walking on Sunshine when this hits. (that was before the storm hit land)

I see we probably will be getting some rain here in Ohio next week, great.

If the National Hurricane Center verifies... it will be the worst hurricane in U.S. History.

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 18
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 PM CDT SAT AUG 27 2005

...KATRINA RE-ORGANIZING OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO...

AT 4 PM CDT...2100Z...THE HURRICANE WATCH IS EXTENDED WESTWARD TO
INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA AND EASTWARD TO THE FLORIDA-ALABAMA
BORDER. A HURRICANE WATCH IS NOW IN EFFECT ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF
COAST FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY TO THE ALABAMA-FLORIDA BORDER.

A HURRICANE WARNING WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
NORTHERN GULF COAST LATER TONIGHT OR SUNDAY. INTERESTS IN THIS AREA
SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF KATRINA.

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS DISCONTINUED FOR
THE FLORIDA KEYS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 4 PM CDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 24.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 85.6 WEST OR ABOUT 380 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ABOUT 240
MILES WEST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 7 MPH. A GRADUAL TURN
TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

REPORTS FROM NOAA AND AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
INDICATE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 115 MPH...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. KATRINA IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON
SCALE. STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...AND
KATRINA COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE LATER TONIGHT OR
SUNDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES... 75 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 160 MILES...260 KM. NOAA BUOY 42003 LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE
CENTER RECENTLY REPORTED SUSTAINED WINDS OF 46 MPH WITH A GUST TO
58 MPH.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY THE NOAA AIRCRAFT IS
945 MB...27.91 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF FLORIDA SHOULD
SUBSIDE TODAY.

KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 3 TO
5 INCHES OVER WESTERN CUBA...AND 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL IS
EXPECTED OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA. HEAVY RAINS FROM KATRINA
SHOULD BEGIN TO AFFECT THE CENTRAL GULF COAST SUNDAY EVENING.
RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS
OF 15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF COAST.

REPEATING THE 4 PM CDT POSITION...24.6 N... 85.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...115 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 945 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 7 PM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 10 PM CDT.

FORECASTER BEVEN

It's amazing to see how big it's grown over the afternoon. It's definetly begining to reorginize.

The models are bringing it to 150 mph just prior to landfall. We very well may have a borderline Cat. 4/Cat. 5 hurricane on our hands at landfall.

Some of the last visible sattelite images of the day...

000
WTNT32 KNHC 272350
TCPAT2
BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 18A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
7 PM CDT SAT AUG 27 2005

...DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA BEGINS TO MOVE TOWARD THE
WEST-NORTHWEST...

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF COAST FROM
INTRACOASTAL CITY TO THE ALABAMA-FLORIDA BORDER.

A HURRICANE WARNING WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
NORTHERN GULF COAST LATER TONIGHT. INTERESTS IN THIS AREA SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF KATRINA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 7 PM CDT...0000Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 24.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 85.9 WEST OR ABOUT 360 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA HAS BEGUN TO MOVE TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH.
THIS GENERAL MOTION SHOULD CONTINUE TONIGHT AND SUNDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 115 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON
SCALE. STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...AND
KATRINA COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE LATER TONIGHT OR
SUNDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 160
MILES. NOAA BUOY 42003 LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE CENTER RECENTLY
REPORTED SUSTAINED WINDS OF 54 MPH WITH A GUST TO 64 MPH AND
25-FOOT WAVES.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS 944 MB...27.88 INCHES.

DATA FROM BUOYS INDICATE THAT 12-FOOT WAVES ARE ALREADY APPROACHING
PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST. STORM SURGE FLOODING ALONG THE
SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF FLORIDA SHOULD SUBSIDE TONIGHT.

KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 3 TO
5 INCHES OVER EXTREME WESTERN CUBA...AND 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL
IS EXPECTED OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA. HEAVY RAINS FROM KATRINA
SHOULD BEGIN TO AFFECT THE CENTRAL GULF COAST SUNDAY EVENING.
RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS
OF 15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF COAST.

REPEATING THE 7 PM CDT POSITION...24.8 N... 85.9 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 944 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
10 PM CDT.

FORECASTER AVILA

...STORM SURGE AND STORM TIDE IMPACTS...
KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL ALONG NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO
COAST AS A MAJOR HURRICANE. WHILE EXACT LOCATION LANDFALL IS
UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME...SIGNIFICANT AND LIFE THREATENING STORM SURGE
UP TO 18 FEET ABOVE NORMAL IS POSSIBLE NEAR AND TO THE RIGHT OF THE
LANDFALL AREA.

Yeah... I got some blank DVD's today to record this... this is going to be historic.

If it hits as a Cat 4 or 5... it will be the strongest hurricane to landfall along the Northern Gulf Coast since Camille in 1969...

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 19
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 PM CDT SAT AUG 27 2005

...DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA THREATENS THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF
COAST...A HURRICANE WARNING ISSUED...

AT 10 PM CDT...0300Z...A HURRICANE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE
NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE
ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE
PONTCHARTRAIN. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS
ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

ALSO AT 10 PM CDT...0300Z...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE
WATCH HAVE BEEN ISSUED FROM THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER EASTWARD TO
DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24
HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 10 PM CDT...0300Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
BY AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE NEAR LATITUDE 25.0
NORTH...LONGITUDE 86.2 WEST OR ABOUT 335 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF
THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. A GRADUAL
TURN TO THE NORTHWEST SHOULD BEGIN ON SUNDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 115 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE.
STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...AND KATRINA
COULD BECOME A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON SUNDAY.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 160 MILES.

LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE PLANE WAS
939 MB...27.73 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 15 TO 20 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 25 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL.

HEAVY RAINS FROM KATRINA SHOULD BEGIN TO AFFECT THE CENTRAL GULF
COAST SUNDAY EVENING. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH
OF KATRINA. THE HURRICANE IS STILL EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL
RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES OVER EXTREME WESTERN CUBA...AND 1
TO 3 INCHES OF RAINFALL IS EXPECTED OVER THE YUCATAN PENINSULA.

REPEATING THE 10 PM CDT POSITION...25.0 N... 86.2 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 939 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 1 AM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 4 AM
CDT.

FORECASTER AVILA

WOW... I can't believe what I just heard.

The New Orleans mayor just pleaded with everyone to leave and says he and his family are evacuating!!!

omg:

Looks like Katrina is about to develop a really big eye from the Satellite pictures I've been looking at. It's getting really well developed.

Head for the hills! :eek:
Hills in New Orleans?
I think the top of my driveway is higher in elevation than anywhere in Louisiana. ;)

Anyway, this does look like a serious hurricane. :(

Now a category four, 145mph winds. This could very very easily become a category five...


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WTNT62 KNHC 280541
TCUAT2
HURRICANE KATRINA TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1240 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005


...SHORTLY AFTER 1215 AM CDT... 0515Z... AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT REPORTED THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS IN HURRICANE KATRINA
HAD INCREASED TO NEAR 145 MPH... CATEGORY FOUR ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. DETAILS WILL FOLLOW SHORTLY IN A
SPECIAL ADVISORY TO BE ISSUED AT APPROXIMATELY 1 AM CDT...0600Z.
THE SPECIAL PUBLIC ADVISORY WILL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE INTERMEDIATE
PUBLIC ADVISORY PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THAT TIME.

FORECASTER KNABB

$$

Folks... if your anywhere near the path... LEAVE NOW.

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 22
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
7 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...KATRINA...NOW A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE
HURRICANE...HEADED FOR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA. A TROPICAL
STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH
MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 7 AM CDT...1200Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 25.7 NORTH... LONGITUDE 87.7 WEST OR ABOUT 250 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH...AND A
GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED
OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 160 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON
THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 185 MILES.

DATA FROM AN AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE INDICATE THAT THE
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS FALLEN TO NEAR 908 MB...26.81 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 15 TO 20 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 25 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING SUNDAY EVENING OVER
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND
OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 7 AM CDT POSITION...25.7 N... 87.7 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...160 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 908 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
10 AM CDT.

FORECASTER KNABB/PASCH

:eek2:

I have never seen anything like this...

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 23
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA...EVEN
STRONGER...HEADED FOR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA. A TROPICAL
STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH
MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 10 AM CDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.0 NORTH... LONGITUDE 88.1 WEST OR ABOUT 225 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH...AND A TURN
TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT
24 HOURS.

REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT
THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 175 MPH...WITH
HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE
HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN
STRENGTH ARE LIKELY DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 205 MILES.

THE AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE RECENTLY MEASURED A MINIMUM
CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 907 MB...26.78 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING THIS EVENING OVER
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND
OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 10 AM CDT POSITION...26.0 N... 88.1 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...
175 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 907 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 1 PM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 4 PM
CDT.

FORECASTER PASCH

Here's my advice for the citizens of the New Orleans

Calmly pack as many belongings as you can into your car, make sure you have enough gas, and drive like a bat out of hell up I-55 to Chicago!!

If you take the City Of New Orleans out of town, hope you're gone five hundred miles when the day is done!

Wow, this is certaily turning into something major. I hope everyone gets the hell outta there as fast and safely as possible.

This is horrible. My jaw dropped this morning when I woke up and realized how strong it became. Now it's up to 175 mph winds. I feel absolutely horrible for the people in New Orleans/Louisiana and the surrounding areas. Even if it decreases a little bit in strength, it's probably going to still be a five or a VERY strong four. I know what it's like to go through hurricanes (living in South East Florida) and even though I was alive for Andrew, I didn't go through it. I can't even imagine the damage Katrina will cause.

I had a weird feeling after a lot of people in Florida who suffered through Frances and Jeanne and Ivan last year said Katrina was a wimp. She was compared to the roaring bit** she's become. She's proving everyone wrong. I'm sitting here just floored. I can't even begin to imagine the feeling of the people in New Orleans.

Wow.

I wish best of luck to people who are in the New Orleans area on these boards such as agmfox8 and JT. agmfox8 (Aaron) has already left the town to a secure place. I hope JT has as well.

If this happens... it will eclipse any previous U.S. hurricane... even Andrew. This is unreal.

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 23A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA MENACING THE NORTHERN
GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA. A TROPICAL
STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH
MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 1 PM CDT...1800Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.5 NORTH... LONGITUDE 88.6 WEST OR ABOUT 180 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH...AND A TURN
TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 175 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON
THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 205 MILES.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 906 MB...26.75 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING THIS EVENING OVER
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND
OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 1 PM CDT POSITION...26.5 N... 88.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...
175 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 906 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
4 PM CDT.

FORECASTER PASCH

Oh wow, good luck to you all in New Orleans :( God bless!

Wow, this is certaily turning into something major. I hope everyone gets the hell outta there as fast and safely as possible.
:yeahthat Stay safe, everyone in the New Orleans area :(

I just saw the air pressure at the center of the hurricane (which tell us how powerful the storm is). Compare with some past hurricanes:


Labor Day Hurricane (1935).... 892 mbs
Katrina (2005)..... 906 mbs
Camille (1969)..... 909 mbs
Andrew (1992).... 922 mbs

This is one strong hurricane. Let's hope is weakens before it hits the coast, and maybe landfall will be outside of New Orleans in a less populated area.

906MB!!!

I never in my wildest dreams expected to see THIS when I woke up today. Simply incredible. This is going to be an absolute disaster for the New Orleans area. It's going to take years and years to recover from this.

The only hope is if it does not head directly toward New Orleans.
Even if it weakens, it will still be a category 3 or 4.

906MB!!!

I never in my wildest dreams expected to see THIS when I woke up today.
Me, too. Last night (early morning Eastern time), the winds were "only" 115 mph. I knew they would get stronger, maybe 125 or 130 mph, but I never would have guessed 175 mph. :eek:

TWC is reporting 184 MPH and 902 MB now.

TWC is reporting 184 MPH and 902 MB now.
This is amazing. It's like the perfect hurricane. New Orleans is going to be in ruins. :(

TWC is reporting 184 MPH and 902 MB now.

4th strongest hurricane in the Atlantic in history... and it appears to be strengthening.

Jim Cantore of TWC was reporting gridlock conditions on I-10; people had not taken the warnings seriously and have waited until the last minute to leave. There's people still driving down the road and by the coastline just goofing off :rolleyes:

The only hope is if it does not head directly toward New Orleans.
Even if it weakens, it will still be a category 3 or 4.

Probably a Strong 4 is the best case right now... it's so large significant weakening is not likely. I fully expect a Cat 5 plowing into the coast very near New Orleans in the morning. It will be devastating... I am deeply concerned about the people who haven't evacuated...

Here's another Sattelite image of the hurricane from about 1pm...

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 24
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA HEADED FOR THE
NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE COMPLETED THIS
EVENING.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 4 PM CDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.9 NORTH... LONGITUDE 89.0 WEST OR ABOUT 150 MILES
SOUTH OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH...AND A GRADUAL
TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ON THIS
TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE NEAR THE NORTHERN GULF
COAST EARLY MONDAY. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO
DETERIORATE ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF
COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 165 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON
THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
UNTIL LANDFALL. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT CATEGORY
FOUR OR FIVE INTENSITY. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF
HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR
GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA IS A LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD
UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE OCCURRING OVER THE SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA COAST. SOUTHWEST
PASS...NEAR THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER...RECENTLY REPORTED
SUSTAINED WINDS OF 48 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 53 MPH.

A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE REPORTED A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF
902 MB...26.64 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING THIS EVENING OVER
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND
OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 4 PM CDT POSITION...26.9 N... 89.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 902 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 7 PM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 10 PM
CDT.

FORECASTER PASCH

Looking at the latest forecast...It's taking the nightmare track. Just a little further west than expected earlier. New Orleans would be under water.

I just saw the traffic in Mississipi and it's bottlenecked! So sad if those people are caught in that jam during this storm. :(

There's really no doubt in my mind that this is going to be the costliest Hurricane ever to hit the country. The wind field is massive...Hurricane force winds over a stretch of 200 miles, then extending inland 150 miles. Then, at landfall Category 4/5 winds will effect an area along the coast a good 30-50 miles across. It's going to cause catastrophic damage to the New Orleans area. The skyscrapers in Downtown New Orleans would be devistated. And this isnt even putting into consideration that a large portion of New Orleans may be completely submerged in water, with most of it basically being under water.

New Orleans is using the Super Dome as a shelter and it's not a pretty sight! It's already started to rain and there's an enormous amount of people still waiting to go in.

Live streaming video from WWL TV (CBS, New Orleans)
http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_wwltv&props=livenoad

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 24A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
7 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA NOW MOVING
NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD TOWARD THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE COMPLETED THIS
EVENING.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 7 PM CDT...0000Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 27.2 NORTH... LONGITUDE 89.1 WEST OR ABOUT 130 MILES
SOUTH OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 11 MPH...AND A
TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ON THIS TRACK
THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE NEAR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST
EARLY MONDAY. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO
DETERIORATE ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF
COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 160 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON
THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
PRIOR TO LANDFALL...AND KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT
CATEGORY FOUR OR FIVE INTENSITY. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS
OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE
NEAR GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA IS A LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD
UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE ALREADY OCCURRING OVER THE SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA COAST.

A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE REPORTED A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF
904 MB...26.69 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE THIS EVENING OVER SOUTHERN
PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND OVER THE
FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 7 PM CDT POSITION...27.2 N... 89.1 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 11 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...160
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 904 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 10 PM CDT.

FORECASTER FRANKLIN

Is there such a thing as a Category 6 hurricane? Because this one might qualify! :eek2:

Wow! I surely hope that our friends in this area will be safe! I am so grateful to be living in Michigan where severe storms are not that prominent. Take care all of you hurricane people! :eek:

There is the possibilty of 20 ft. storm surge. The Indonesian tsunami was 21 ft. so that gives some idea of the danger.

There is the possibilty of 20 ft. storm surge. The Indonesian tsunami was 21 ft. so that gives some idea of the danger.

At least Louisianians have advance warning. No one saw that tsunami coming! :eek:

At least Louisianians have advance warning. No one saw that tsunami coming! :eek:They have the warning, but a lot of people can't get out.

Is there such a thing as a Category 6 hurricane? Because this one might qualify! :eek2:
No... but I agree with you... it seems to have weakened VERY slightly this evening... but it's still a Catastrophic hurricane... Andrew was 160 mph when it made landfall and we saw what it did... and this is much larger and going into a VERY prone to surge area...

The only real hurricane this compares to is Camille... as of this writing, it's a little lower than Camille was when it made landfall, but understand, the difference is small. Even if this weakens to a strong Category Four... which it may well do, it will still be devastating. New Orleans has never been hit directly by a 4 or 5... and Charley was a strong four last year and we saw what it did and it was also a VERY small hurricane compared to this one.

Bottom line... it's going to be bad... landfall should be around sunrise if it hits Southeast Louisiana... if it jogs to the east and misses, it would hit the MS coast around Noon.

Last visible images of the day...

They have the warning, but a lot of people can't get out.


Thank goodness for the Super Dome!

Thank goodness for the Super Dome!

I'm VERY concerned about that... I'm afraid it's going to be heavily damaged and cause injury/death to people inside.

The people who are FAR away from the area are in the best shape right now...

I'm VERY concerned about that... I'm afraid it's going to be heavily damaged and cause injury/death to people inside.

The people who are FAR away from the area are in the best shape right now...
Yeah, me too. The mayor (I think) of New Orleans said it can withstand winds of 200 mph...It's definetly going to be put to the test.

I'm VERY concerned about that... I'm afraid it's going to be heavily damaged and cause injury/death to people inside.

The people who are FAR away from the area are in the best shape right now...


I just it's better built than the old Silverdome in Pontiac, Michigan, whose roof collapsed twice because the nimrods who built it couldn't design a large roof strong enough to support an Upper Midwestern snowstorm. :mad:

I just it's better built than the old Silverdome in Pontiac, Michigan, whose roof collapsed twice because the nimrods who built it couldn't design a large roof strong enough to support an Upper Midwestern snowstorm. :mad:
Yeah...Hopefully so. :grr:

This storm is so impressive on satellite...It's amazing to look at.

Good thing it's not over Florida - it would swallow the state whole! :eek:

This storm is so impressive on satellite...It's amazing to look at.

Imagine being able to watch it from directly above. I'd be so awe-stricken, that I wouldn't be able to breathe.

Imagine being able to watch it from directly above. I'd be so awe-stricken, that I wouldn't be able to breathe.

I'd love to be on a recon plane flying into it... :D

Back during Emily, they got a spectacular view of the eye during the night... stadium effect, from what they wrote, it was amazing.

I'd love to be on a recon plane flying into it... :D

Back during Emily, they got a spectacular view of the eye during the night... stadium effect, from what they wrote, it was amazing.
Yeah. I remember reading about that. I really want to fly into a Hurricane one day in one of those hurricane hunter aircraft.

Landfall at Grand Isle at 7am with 155 mph winds... official NHC prediction... that's a borderline 4/5, then just a few miles east of New Orleans around 11am...

BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 25
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH
THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 10 PM CDT...0300Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 27.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.4 WEST OR ABOUT 105 MILES
SOUTH OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ABOUT 170 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH...AND A
TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. ON THE
FORECAST TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE
NORTHERN GULF COAST MONDAY MORNING. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE
ALREADY DETERIORATING ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND
NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE
NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 160 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA
IS A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME
FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY PRIOR TO LANDFALL...AND KATRINA
IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT EITHER CATEGORY FOUR OR FIVE
INTENSITY. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS
WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA REMAINS A VERY LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. A WIND GUST TO 90 MPH WAS
RECENTLY REPORTED FROM SOUTHWEST PASS LOUISIANA.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 904 MB...26.70 INCHES. AN
AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WILL BE REACHING THE
CENTER OF KATRINA VERY SHORTLY.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE THIS EVENING OVER SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA...SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHERN ALABAMA...AND OVER THE
FLORIDA PANHANDLE TONIGHT.

REPEATING THE 10 PM CDT POSITION...27.6 N... 89.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...160 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 904 MB.

INTERMEDIATE ADVISORIES WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT MIDNIGHT CDT AND 2 AM CDT FOLLOWED
BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 4 AM CDT.

FORECASTER FRANKLIN

I just can't believe how well defined the eye is. It's huge! Any ideas how big the eye is?

D

I just can't believe how well defined the eye is. It's huge! Any ideas how big the eye is?

D

30-35 miles...

Well, folks, it made landfall around 7AM just east of Grand Isle, LA. It's yet to hit New Orleans. The winds were about 145, which was a HUGE break for them. Not much, but any break is nonetheless a break. And some even better news (as better as it can get) is that New Orleans might be spared the eastern part of the eye-wall (the worst). It's still a major hurricane (hit as a cat 4, and it still is) and it will still have a HUGE impact. I'm not trying to downplay the damage it will cause, but at least New Orleans is being spared an even WORSE disaster. Thank god for any small development like that.

And Hurricane Force winds extend out a LONG way. Just to give an example, MS, Alabama and even Pensacola, FLA could experience gusts up to HUrricane force! It's a huge storm.

I'de say it's pretty big, they're saying we're going to get some pretty big backlash up here in ohio! :eek:

It's hitting new orleans right now, the winds are tearing off the roof of the superdome which is housing 9,000 residents! lets hope the rest of it holds.

Well... despite weakening to a Category 4 before landfall, the reports are TERRIBLE. New Orleans is flooding as I type... it looks like the major nightmare was averted however.

The MS coast appears to be in shambles... casinos reportedly gone... almost all the trees and powerlines around Bay St. Louis/Pass Christian/Diamondhead down. Homes destroyed... Jim Cantore of TWC reports a THIRTY-SEVEN foot surge... that eclipses Camille by THIRTEEN FEET. Also.... there have been numerous building collapses in New Orleans... it's bad. We may not know for days just how many were killed, but the number is probably high. Hurricane Force winds reported into the Florida Panhandle.

The current projections pretty much conclusively have the Weak-Tropical Storm-strength remnants slamming Bowling Green pretty much head on. They're saying another 4-5 inches locally in BG, making total rainfall since yesterday in the 6-7 inch range.

Good thing most of my classes - and my dorm, are farther UP "the hill" - I'm gonna need a boat to get to my Tuesday class on the bottom of the campus (Western Kentucky University is built on one BIG hill).

Thoughts and best wishes remain with everyone having already - and yet to have - been hit with this thing.

12,000 people possibly trapped in their homes in St. Bernard Parish... :eek: :(

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/082905/new_stbern001.shtml

12,000 people possibly trapped in their homes in St. Bernard Parish... :eek: :(

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/082905/new_stbern001.shtml
:(

My thoughts are with board members amgfox and JT during this time....and everyone else in Louisiana and surrounding areas :(

12,000 people possibly trapped in their homes in St. Bernard Parish... :eek: :(

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/082905/new_stbern001.shtmlThat parish is one of the worst to be in, because it's so low lying and has water everywhere. Orleans, Plaquemines, Jefferson, Terrebonne are other parishes that are hard hit.

http://www.gnocdc.org/IMAGES/st_bernard_nav.gif

WOW... this is going to exceed Andrew.

http://mb11.scout.com/fmississippistatefrm2.showMessage?topicID=101502.topic

Just found out my home has been covered by the storm surge, which is on the back bay. Our house recieved NO water during Camille, so this says alot. The last contact I had with my family members is that my father (former 1970-74 MSU kicker), my brother, and gradfather were waiting on a police boat to rescue them. I assume my house is gone. Please keep them in your prayers. I know they will be okay, they are fighters!

Some other info I have recieved:

Mary Mahoney's had waves crashing in on thier second floor, forcing my friends into the third level.

Bombay Bicycle Club is nothing more than a slab.

Hard Rock has lost much of it's structure.

Many homes on the beach are slabs.

Water levels rose over 25 feet in many areas.

Treasure Bay has broken from it's moorings, nothing else is known about it.

Many boats have washed on shore, destroying anything in their path.

This storm is WORSE than Camille as far as destruction. There is much more on the coast now to destroy than in 1969. Prayers are needed very much!

- end of quote -

This is an amazing post- here is a house that stood during the time of Camille yet was not touched. And Camille came ashore at Pass Christian, MS, rather than Louisiana. There are obviously dynamics invovled with storm surge that have nothing to do with wind speed at landfall- Camille had much stronger winds at landfall.

WOW... this is going to exceed Andrew.

http://mb11.scout.com/fmississippistatefrm2.showMessage?topicID=101502.topic

Just found out my home has been covered by the storm surge, which is on the back bay. Our house recieved NO water during Camille, so this says alot. The last contact I had with my family members is that my father (former 1970-74 MSU kicker), my brother, and gradfather were waiting on a police boat to rescue them. I assume my house is gone. Please keep them in your prayers. I know they will be okay, they are fighters!

Some other info I have recieved:

Mary Mahoney's had waves crashing in on thier second floor, forcing my friends into the third level.

Bombay Bicycle Club is nothing more than a slab.

Hard Rock has lost much of it's structure.

Many homes on the beach are slabs.

Water levels rose over 25 feet in many areas.

Treasure Bay has broken from it's moorings, nothing else is known about it.

Many boats have washed on shore, destroying anything in their path.

This storm is WORSE than Camille as far as destruction. There is much more on the coast now to destroy than in 1969. Prayers are needed very much!

- end of quote -

This is an amazing post- here is a house that stood during the time of Camille yet was not touched. And Camille came ashore at Pass Christian, MS, rather than Louisiana. There are obviously dynamics invovled with storm surge that have nothing to do with wind speed at landfall- Camille had much stronger winds at landfall.
That's horrible :(

Rough CNN transcript of Jeanne Meserve in a flooded part of New Orleans:

"I cannot tell you what we have seen. An entire ward of this city appears to be up to it's rooftop in waters. There have been bodies seen here. It is JUST unbelievable. I told you earlier today I didn't think this turned out to be armageddon. Wolf, this is amazing and horrifying. This is not a downtown area. This is west of the area. It appears to be one of the less wealthy parts of the city."

"Lord only knows how many people are here."

"This part of I-10 under water."

Rough CNN transcript of Jeanne Meserve in a flooded part of New Orleans:

"I cannot tell you what we have seen. An entire ward of this city appears to be up to it's rooftop in waters. There have been bodies seen here. It is JUST unbelievable. I told you earlier today I didn't think this turned out to be armageddon. Wolf, this is amazing and horrifying. This is not a downtown area. This is west of the area. It appears to be one of the less wealthy parts of the city."

"Lord only knows how many people are here."

"This part of I-10 under water."I believe that's the 9th ward, alot of people didn't have cars to leave there.

Has anyone heard anything recent about Biloxi? I have relatives there. :(

Rough CNN transcript of Jeanne Meserve in a flooded part of New Orleans:

"I cannot tell you what we have seen. An entire ward of this city appears to be up to it's rooftop in waters. There have been bodies seen here. It is JUST unbelievable. I told you earlier today I didn't think this turned out to be armageddon. Wolf, this is amazing and horrifying. This is not a downtown area. This is west of the area. It appears to be one of the less wealthy parts of the city."

"Lord only knows how many people are here."

"This part of I-10 under water."

OMG, I was watching when she said it was like Armageddon. I didn't get to see much today becaise I was at work, but that was one of the first reports I saw when I got home. :(

How's it going for you Brent? They are saying we will be getting some rain and wind here tomorrow night into Wednesday, though certainly not whats going on down there.

Has anyone heard anything recent about Biloxi? I have relatives there. :(

To be honest... I'm not sure much is left. There is NOTHING. NADA. The Biloxi reporters are well inland and north of the bay... if the surge really reached north of I-10, then I wouldn't expect much.

How's it going for you Brent? They are saying we will be getting some rain and wind here tomorrow night into Wednesday, though certainly not whats going on down there.

Lots of squalls... we're on just the fringes since I'm on the AL/GA border... have already had numerous tornado warnings the last 2 hours with several tornadoes reported...

To be honest... I'm not sure much is left. There is NOTHING. NADA. The Biloxi reporters are well inland and north of the bay... if the surge really reached north of I-10, then I wouldn't expect much.
:( Thanks. :( I hope that's wrong, though. But... I'm seeing nothing in the news since the info from this morning.

Has anyone heard anything recent about Biloxi? I have relatives there. :(

CNN is about to show Biloxi right now.

:( Thanks. :( I hope that's wrong, though. But... I'm seeing nothing in the news since the info from this morning.

I hope I'm wrong too... this is just based on VERY VERY sketchy reports.

What REALLY concerns me is there is NO communication in the Slidell, LA/Bay St. Louis/Pass Christian area... Biloxi faired a little better than they did and it was still catastrophic. I think officials may find hundreds if not more dead when they finally get there. The aerial shots are going to be horrific.

FOX News just showed the flooding in New Orleans about a 1/2 hour ago and it's HORRIBLE. I didn't see a dry spot anywhere in the picture...

See if you recognize any of these places Mysty Eyes... it's the best I can do:

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/12508173.htm (http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/12508173.htm)

Familiar landmarks destroyed

These reports were sent by City Editor Kate Magandy:

At DeBuys Road at U.S. 90., the Olive Garden and Red Lobster restaurants were obliterated.

In Biloxi at Edgewater Village, most of that shopping strip mall was devastated. The McDonald's is gone, the Village Sports Pub is gone.

The Hard Rock Casino on Casino Row in Biloxi, which was scheduled to open next week, will have to be rebuilt. The superstructure was severely damaged.

There have been reports that there are several casino barges that were pulled out of water and onto land.

Elvis Gates, a State Farm insurance agent in Long Beach, went to downtown to survey damage. He found nothing left. ``Everything south of Second Street is gone. The harbor is gone.''

St. Thomas the Apostlic Catholic Church, which sits on U.S. 90, celebrated its 100th anniversary in August. It is now gone.

When Camille hit in 1969, Long Beach residents were able to hold Mass in St. Thomas School gym. There is nothing left of that but the superstructure.

First Baptist Chruch in Long Beach has been leveled. Other reports indicate that everything south of the tracks received catastrophic damage. Part of U.S. 90 collapsed in front of Edgewater Village.

"I have heard from family with homes in Quail Ridge and Eden Isles. All homes are completely lost. 9 feet of water in slidell memorial hospital"

http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2414&start=45 (http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2414&start=45)

The NWS Slidell(AKA New Orleans, LIX) may be gone... they haven't transmitted anything since early this morning.

Folks... be prepared, I don't think anyone who stayed survived.

WWL-TV forums... UNCONFIRMED, near her 1st landfall at the Mouth of the MS River:



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okay. I just talked to a friend whose dad works for the sheriff's dept. He just talked to someone and said the following....

They have rescued 4 people from the roof of the St. Patrick's Church. The water is so high there the only thing visible is the bell tower.

There were three breaks in the levee. Not sure of the locations.

Someone with airboats (they said Jody so he's assuming Jody Danos) is going around helping to rescue people. He's picked up eight dead bodies and supposedly they've called into the emergency management people for 600 more.

again, all heresay, not confirmed, but I thought you would want to know.

God help everyone there.

Associated Press:

At least 55 dead in Harrison County, MS, which includes the Gulfport/Biloxi area...

NOT THE HARDEST HIT AREA!!!

This is bad, but at least it's a tropical storm now

This is bad, but at least it's a tropical storm now

Inland Flooding and tornadoes is a BIG threat... water kills more than wind anyway. I would guess that 95% of the people killed in this storm will be killed by the surge/flooding.

Jeanne Meserve was on CNN a little while ago and started literally crying on air... she says the water is still rising in New Orleans and that people are trapped and running out of air and yelling for help(she can hear them), but there's no way to get to them... hundreds may be dead/die in this alone... and then there's the coastline that is no more likely from Grand Isle to the Mouth of the Mississippi and then into Hancock County, MS. Out of the 55 dead in Harrison County, 40 are reportedly in Biloxi alone... I would not be surprised to see a toll approaching 1,000.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWL082905trapped.6dc737a.html

Mayor Ray Nagin said that 200 people were stranded on rooftops in the Lower Ninth Ward and several “bodies are floating in the water” in the Bywater neighborhood and in Eastover.

Nagin made the announcement in his first press briefing after Hurricane Katrina slammed just east of the city, but did plenty of devastation to New Orleans.

Nagin said that the 200 stranded people included 20 police officers who were riding out the storm at their homes in preparation to take over shifts from other officers. He said that boats would be dispatched on rescue missions later in the afternoon.

Mayor Nagin issued a "boil water" recommendation for water in the city - except for Algiers and the CBD due to a water main line break that may have compromised the water.

Nagin said at least 20 buildings in the city had collapsed and that it might be 48 hours before residents would be allowed back to their homes to assess the damage.

This is terrible. You can only imagine what wouldve happened if it had been a 175mph Cat. 5 at landfall.

Kenner, LA was hit very hard in Louisiana. They will not have power for over a month I heard. Unfortunately, a member from the boards lives there--agmfox8. I hope he is OK and when he comes back to his house, it isn't destroyed.

Kenner, LA was hit very hard in Louisiana. They will not have power for over a month I heard. Unfortunately, a member from the boards lives there--agmfox8. I hope he is OK and when he comes back to his house, it isn't destroyed.
I hope so too. :(

Wow, CNN is reporting that there was just a major failure in one of the Levees protecting New Orleans from Lake Pontchartrain. I heard it was as wide as two blocks long. Atleast one Hospital is considering evacuating.

I was just watching CBS Up to the Minute and there was a black man who lost his wife trying to hold on to her. That was so sad even the reporter broke out crying while talking to him.

They said 80% of new orleans is under water on cnn.com 20 feet deep in some areas :(

I'm sure most of you were watching the news, did anyone happen to see a lady interview a man and said his wife was gone and started crying? That REALLY depressed me ... I don't think I can go around today smilling at people like I usually am. :(

I'm sure most of you were watching the news, did anyone happen to see a lady interview a man and said his wife was gone and started crying? That REALLY depressed me ... I don't think I can go around today smilling at people like I usually am. :(


I just saw that myself, that was heart wrenching, I pray someone can help him and his family. :crying:

Reports of 88 dead now... including 30 in a Biloxi apartment complex and this STILL doesn't include the hardest hit areas!!!

The situation in New Orleans is going from bad to worse... a levee broke overnight and has flooded downtown including the French Quarter.

New Orleans mayor: 'Significant' number of deaths
'It's almost like a nightmare, that I hope we wake up from'

Tuesday, August 30, 2005; Posted: 9:24 a.m. EDT (13:24 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin warned of a "significant" death toll as the exact scope of Hurricane Katrina's wrath remained unknown in the Crescent City.

"The city of New Orleans is in a state of devastation," Nagin told WWL TV on Monday night. "We probably have 80 percent of our city underwater, with some sections of our city, the water is as deep as 20 feet." (Watch emotional account of devastation)

Katrina came ashore early Monday as a Category 4 hurricane, strafing New Orleans with 120 mph winds.

New Orleans, a city of nearly half a million with a metropolitan area population of 1.3 million, was under a mandatory evacuation order over the weekend. However, many people defied that order and remained in homes and shelters. Thousands were shielded from the storm in the city's Louisiana Superdome.

The city's French Quarter weathered the storm in its unique style.

"My heart is heavy tonight," Nagin said. "I don't have any good news to share."

"We're going to have a significant amount of loss of life in the city," he said, citing reports coming in from fire, police and National Guard sources.

Louisiana officials have released no death toll, but Nagin predicted eastern New Orleans and the city's 9th Ward would be the hardest hit, noting the National Guard would be setting up temporary morgues.

Nagin said bodies have been seen floating in flood waters.

"It's not a pretty picture."

Nagin said both both New Orleans airports are underwater and there would be no electricity in the city for four to six weeks. Natural gas leaks have been reported throughout town, he said.

"Now is not the time to return to the city," Nagin said to those who had evacuated ahead of Katrina, saying they would have to wait weeks, if not months.

"It's almost like a nightmare, that I hope we wake up from," Nagin said.

Nagin confirmed reports that a two-block-long part of a levee has given way to Lake Pontchartrain at the city's 17th Street Canal -- near the city's center. (See video on how the levee broke)

"There's a serious leak and it's causing the water to continue to rise," he said.

The New Orleans Fire Department said the break was about 200-feet long.

Bryan Vernon, who lives in the neighborhood, told The Associated Press he had been on his roof for three hours calling for someone to help him and his fiancee from the rising water. (Watch dramatic rooftop rescue)

"I've never encountered anything like it in my life," Vernon told AP. "It just kept rising and rising and rising."

Along a street that had turned into a river filled with garbage cans and refuse, a woman leaned from the second-story window of a brick home and begged to be rescued, AP reported.

"There are three kids in here," the woman told AP. "Can you help us?"

In New Orleans' central business district, Karen Troyer Caraway, vice president of Tulane University Hospital, said water at the facility was initially rising at the rate of a foot an hour and had already reached the top of the first floor.

"It's dumping all the lake water in Orleans Parish," Caraway said. "It's essentially running down Canal Street. We have whitecaps on Canal Street."

"We now are completely surrounded by 6 feet of water, and are about to get on the phone with FEMA to start talking about evacuation plans," Caraway said. "The water is rising so fast, I can't even begin to describe how fast it is rising."

Caraway said she didn't know whether any pumps had been turned on to pump the water, but said, "they're not going to be able to compete with Lake Pontchartrain."

Tulane hospital has moved its emergency room to the second floor, Caraway said. It has been on emergency generator power for the last 24 hours, but if water continued rising rapidly, that power will be lost, swamping the power source.

Other hurricane damage Nagin reported included flooding in the city north of Interstate 10, the destruction by fire of the Southern Yacht Club and a leaking oil tanker that has run aground.

We're getting the rain up here in ohio with some flood watches, Just a grim reminder to whats going on down there, I just hope the other storm systems in the Atlantic right now don't form into another one, hurricane season doesn't even start till next month :(

Has anyone heard anything recent about Biloxi? I have relatives there. :(
I saw Biloxi on TWC today. They only showed a little bit of it but from what I saw, everything either had small damage or was destroyed.

We're getting the rain up here in ohio with some flood watches, Just a grim reminder to whats going on down there, I just hope the other storm systems in the Atlantic right now don't form into another one, hurricane season doesn't even start till next month :(
We've got like servere weather watches I think.

Bay St. Louis has been obliterated... every structure is severely damaged or just a slab of concrete... there's probably dead everywhere.

In Biloxi, the surge was the problem... I can confirm, based on reporters on scene, that the damage was bad... people did survive, but most structures are uninhatiable now... As I said earlier, 30 of the dead were in an apartment complex on the beach in Biloxi.

We've got like servere weather watches I think.


We have flood watches till morning last i saw

They are evacuating New Orleans, the water is slowly rising

We have flood watches till morning last i saw


We do too, for most counties of New York from 7pm tonight til Thursday morning.

I just got a report over email that Lower Plaquemines Parish(the Mouth of the MS River) is gone... there were reportedly a few thousand people who rode out the storm... no word, but if it's gone, they are probably dead. This is horrible. :(

I just saw an aerial shot of Kenner, Louisiana, where agmfox(board member) is from :eek: OMG, it's completely underwater....I hope he's ok! :(

I have no idea just where in the Biloxi area my cousin and family live. I do know that it is "inland" vs the beach area, but even those areas were hit hard. My aunt is being very positive, saying "I'm going to call him and find out about the house," but... that was last night... she still has not said anything other than that one positive statement. Hopefully, they got to safe ground and that it's just the phones being down that is the problem. :(

Reuters just reported hundreds(plural) dead in Biloxi alone... says most people in the city who stayed were killed...

Reuters just reported hundreds(plural) dead in Biloxi alone... says most people in the city who stayed were killed...


WOW! that's horrible! :(

I am in the Baton Rouge area. We have power, but a lot of people here don’t. We just have a yard full of tree limbs and garbage, and we lost power for 9 hours. There are lots of people in this area that still do not have power, and may not have it for 2 weeks.

I feel so bad for those in the New Orleans area, and those hit the hardest. They are telling those people who have evacuated “stay out it’s not safe” and they’re showing pictures of total destruction, and yet some people are still trying to get back into New Orleans, and they’re getting stranded too. I hope that the board members from that area have a safe shelter, and that they can stay there. It is just so sad. Actually, sad doesn’t really describe it very well, but it’s all I can think of right now. So many people have just lost everything. :(

its hard for me to find words to really express how i feel i will keep everyone in my thoughts and prayers

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL
156 PM CDT TUE AUG 30 2005

...HELPFUL PHONE NUMBERS FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY HURRICANE KATRINA...

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NEEDS IN LOUISIANA, MISSISSIPPI, OR ALABAMA CAN CALL 225-925-
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ROAD CLOSURE INFORMATION IN SOUTH ALABAMA. THE ACCESS NUMBER IS 1-
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ALL ROADS INTO COASTAL LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI ARE IMPASSABLE.
INTERSTATES 10 AND 12 ARE CLOSED IN COASTAL LOUISIANA AND
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I saw that guy being interviewed who said he lost his wife right out of his arms. That was the saddest thing I have seen in a long time.

I saw that guy being interviewed who said he lost his wife right out of his arms. That was the saddest thing I have seen in a long time.

I saw that too, I wanted to cry.

In science class today, everyone was quite while we were watching TV .. my teacher said the death toal over here is up to 900? I was so heartbroken .... and she also said that it's going to take 120 days, about 6 months for them to build new pumps in New Orleans ... how sad is that? People there can't even go home for Christmas ... :( She also said not a hotel in Louisiana was avalable when people were evacuating ... Oh, I'm in the Lafayette area ... we got nothing but wind and rain ... =(

Tulane University Hospital lost a generator, they have 200 patients they need to evacuate.

In science class today, everyone was quite while we were watching TV .. my teacher said the death toal over here is up to 900? I was so heartbroken .... and she also said that it's going to take 120 days, about 6 months for them to build new pumps in New Orleans ... how sad is that? People there can't even go home for Christmas ... :( She also said not a hotel in Louisiana was avalable when people were evacuating ... Oh, I'm in the Lafayette area ... we got nothing but wind and rain ... =(

As of now... it's 80 presumed dead but there's hundreds and hundreds(and perhaps more) feared dead/missing... there's so many areas they haven't gotten into yet. I expect a 9/11 type deal where it's months before the final toll is known... a lot of people probably don't have any family to report them missing which means they won't be counted.

URGENT... ASSOCIATED PRESS BULLETIN

GULFPORT, Miss. (AP)- An emergency management official has
confirmed more than 100 dead from Hurricane Katrina in the
Biloxi-Gulfport area of Mississippi.

News special tomorrow and Nightline tonight:

ABC News will schedule “In the Path of Katrina” tomorrow night, Wednesday, August 31, 2005 from 10:00-11:00 PM ET/PT.

“IN THE PATH OF KATRINA” -- ABC NEWS SPECIAL EXPLORES
THE HURRICANE’S DEVASTATING TOLL, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 31 ON ABC

ABC News will explore the devastating human and economic toll of Hurricane Katrina in an hour-long special airing Wednesday night at 10:00 p.m., ET. Anchored by Elizabeth Vargas, “In the Path of Katrina” will feature reports from ABC News correspondents positioned throughout the battered Gulf Coast region. Other reports will focus on issues such as health concerns in the hurricane’s aftermath; the financial impact of the storm on the national economy, including U.S. exports and the oil industry; the daring rescues that saved hundreds, if not thousands, of stranded people – and even their pets and animals; why disasters of this nature seem to bring out both the very best and worst in people; and the long-term damage inflicted by Katrina, both physical and psychological. “In the Path of Katrina” airs WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 31 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.



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ABC News will schedule (tonight) Tuesday, August 30, 2005 a one hour ABC News Nightline “Katrina” from 11:35 PM-12:36:30 AM-ET/PT. This expanded one hour ABC News Nightline will be anchored by Ted Koppel.

Tonight, "Nightline" will bring you the latest information, voices and pictures from Hurricane Katrina's disaster zone in an extended broadcast. ABC News correspondents are situated throughout the region -- with some just now arriving to get a first look at the hardest hit areas. The show will examine the human toll, as seen through the eyes of survivors and rescue workers.

"Jimmy Kimmel Live" will be scheduled from 12:36:30-1:36:30 AM-NYT/PT.

Oh this is just terrible! Those poor people! I surely hope that we have enough National Guards left in our country to help them out! Be sure that nobody else in the world will. :(

The 17th Street canal pump is failing and 10 feet of flooding is expected overnight on the east bank of Jefferson and Orleans Parish.

I saw that too, I wanted to cry.


I saw that too. So so sad....................... :(

I saw that too, I wanted to cry.
Me too

We have flood watches till morning last i saw
We've also got tornado watches I think...ugh

I just saw an aerial shot of Kenner, Louisiana, where agmfox(board member) is from :eek: OMG, it's completely underwater....I hope he's ok! :(
Yeah, hopefully he was smart and left earlier.

I saw that guy being interviewed who said he lost his wife right out of his arms. That was the saddest thing I have seen in a long time.


oh gosh that was soo sad. :( today my grandma told my mom that she doesnt understand why they keep talking about the storm and shes sick of hearing about it and she asked "why is it soo important?" im so disgusted with her right now

The 17th Street canal pump is failing and 10 feet of flooding is expected overnight on the east bank of Jefferson and Orleans Parish.
Hard to believe this is likely going to get worse there before it gets better.

today my grandma told my mom that she doesnt understand why they keep talking about the storm and shes sick of hearing about it and she asked "why is it soo important?"

Why it's important - the ABRIDGED (shortened) version:
Well for starters because a major United States metro area, home to over a milion individuals has, thanks to some breaks in levees, become flooded to the point that it could take 6 to 9 months to pump out all the water (Due to the bowl-shaped terrain and silt foundation on which most of New Orleans is built upon - let alone that it's below sea level - water from floods has to be *pumped* out).

Let's see: Several oil platforms in the Guf of Mexico have been heavily damaged, destroyed, or otherwise been sent adrift by the storm. The offshore platforms in the Gulf that have been damaged are responsible for approximately 1/3 of all oil produced in the United States. In addition, the New Orleans/Southern Louisiana area is a major import site for international oil. This loss of oil causes there to be a significantly lower amount of oil available for refinement into...gasoline. This drives gas prices noticeably higher (gasoline went up here on three seperate occasions TODAY).

The property damage looks like it will surpass anything seen in modern times. This *will* create record profits for the construction and related industries, but will hurt cashflow elsewhere as monies spent elsewhere go to rebuilt people's homes...the people that have sufficient insurance money or other money saved away, at least.

And the people's a whole 'nother dimension itself. They're about to attempt an evacuation of the Superdome in New Orleans. There are currently FIFTEEN THOUSAND people in that building (and that's a conservative estimate, so I've been informed). Last time I checked, 15,000 is not a small number, particularly when talking about human lives. Then you've got to remember ALL the people trapped in upper floors/roofs of high-rise buildings, hotels, homes, etc. There's still several hundred thousand people in New Orleans alone - the statistics become mindboggling when you factor in Mississippi, Alabama, and the states that the remnants of Katrina have hit.

That's the short version.

Did anyone else here Gov. Kathleen Blanco had to declare martial law for parishes around New Orleans because of looting?

Whew! Finally heard something.

My aunt kind of misled us: my cousin and his wife were farther north than Biloxi. Yay!

They had a lot of wind and rain and have lost power, but are otherwise fine. :)

Now... if only that were true for other people. :(

Katrina has irrevocably changed Mississippi Coast

By SCOTT DODD

Knight Ridder Newspapers

BILOXI, Miss. - The Mississippi Coast changed forever Monday.

Gone are the signature landmarks, moneymaking casinos, pricey beach houses, ramshackle apartments and the bridges that link South Mississippi together. Katrina stole or smashed them all.

In their place, a mess of sand and debris coated everything - left by the hurricane's surging seawater that sometimes topped 30 feet.

So much simply disappeared, leaving nothing but concrete slabs. And with the coastline reshaped by Katrina's winds and waves, so much may never be recovered.

"It took 15 years to build," said Hayes Bolton, looking over the concrete slab that was once his well-known Aaron's Lighthouse Pawn shop on Beach Boulevard in Biloxi, "and now it's down the toilet."

Damage assessment teams came back with the same message over and over: It would be easier to list what still stood, rather than everything that had been damaged or destroyed.

Still, a catalog - even a partial one, as any list of so much damage must be - starts to give a picture of how much the Coast suffered, and the overwhelming task that faces the people of South Mississippi as they struggle to clean up and rebuild.

First, though, an important survivor: the 600-year-old Friendship Oak, symbol of Long Beach, made it through.

It lost only one branch and a bunch of leaves, and now stands as a symbol of the community's determination to recover from Katrina, as well.

Also standing: The Biloxi Lighthouse, and the signature guitar of the Hard Rock Cafe Casino, said to be the world's largest. The new casino itself, scheduled to open in September, was half gutted.

Now, some of what's gone:

# The Biloxi-Ocean Springs Bridge and Bay St. Louis Bridge, two of the community's main connectors. Along much of the spans, only pylons remain.

# The historic Grass Lawn building in Gulfport, a reception hall that dates back to the 1830s. Only its foundation survived.

# Much of downtown Moss Point. Twenty feet of water flooded most of the city. Police and power crews still couldn't get in late Tuesday to assess the full damage.

# The Coliseum Pier across from the Mississippi Coast Coliseum. Pelicans lined its remains.

# The Mississippi State Port at Gulfport. It lost its lifting facilities and cranes, and the waves deposited cargo containers as far as a block north of U.S. 90.

# The Isle of Capri casino barge. There was no sign of it.

# Beauvoir, the Jefferson Davis home in Biloxi. The bottom floor of the library and the home itself were gutted. A Confederate flag, though, still draped over the arm of Davis' statue in the library.

# Fun Time USA in Gulfport. The bumper boats, pool and go-cart track were the only things left.

# The President Casino barge in Biloxi, now sitting on a nearby hotel.

# Pass Christian Harbor and the community's entire beachfront.

# Grand Casino Pier, also in Biloxi. Its two barges broken in half. One plowed across the yacht club north of U.S. 90. The other landed in the middle of the highway.

# The Treasure Bay Pirate Ship casino barge in Biloxi. It was grounded on the beach, with the bottom half blown out.

# The old Harrison County Courthouse building, which now houses other county offices. The roof was sitting on nearby railroad tracks.

# The Palace Casino barge in Biloxi, sunk in place.

# The Armed Forces Retirement Home water tower. It collapsed as waves surged beneath it.

# Several blocks of stores and restaurants along U.S. 90 in Biloxi between Rodenberg Avenue and Treasure Bay casino.

# Sharkshead Souvenir City, a Biloxi landmark. The pink shell that topped it sat in the yard of a home more than half a mile away.

# U.S. 90 through Long Beach. Chunks remained, like the aftermath of an earthquake.

# The stately homes and apartment complexes that lined the shore of Long Beach. The University of Southern Mississippi Gulf Coast campus was pretty much the only structure still standing.

# The Edgewater Village strip shopping center in Biloxi. Buildings were gutted.

# The popular El Maguey Mexican restaurant in Gulfport, managed by Mercedes Carranza, a local landmark himself.

# Six blocks of Market Street through Pascagoula.

# The Diamondhead yacht club, and the roof of the Diamondhead Country Club, as well as the community's business district, including the supermarket. More than half of the community's huge pine trees also snapped in two.

# Alberti's Italian Restaurant on the Biloxi strip.

# The steeple of historic Hansboro Presbyterian Church.

# Luckie's Furniture and Appliance store on Pass Road. It was washed out, the walls gone, but the roof was still standing.

# Waters Edge III apartments in Biloxi.

# The restaurants

# The old neon McDonald's sign on Pass Road.

(Dodd reports for the Charlotte Observer.)

This is just really upsetting because it could have been prevented. The forecasts were great... the warnings were excellent... but they don't do you any good if people don't LISTEN. ohno:

Let this be a lesson: Next time your told to evacuate, EVACUATE!

"Not enough refrigerated trucks to recover all the bodies" and that is NOT in Biloxi... this adds to that.

Governor: Worse than Camille
Thousands of homes destroyed; Katrina's death toll to rise

Tuesday, August 30, 2005; Posted: 11:24 p.m. EDT (03:24 GMT)

BILOXI, Mississippi (CNN) -- Hurricane Katrina has inflicted more damage to Mississippi's beach towns than Hurricane Camille did, and its death toll is likely to be higher, the state's governor said Tuesday.

Camille killed 143 people when it struck the state's coastal counties in 1969 and a total of 256 after it swept inland.

"There are structures after structures that survived Camille with minor damage that are not there any more," said Gov. Haley Barbour, after touring the affected areas of his state by helicopter.

In the small town of Bay St. Louis, search and rescue crews marked with red paint homes known to contain bodies, because there weren't enough refrigerated trucks to remove the corpses, according to CNN correspondent Gary Tuchman.

Jason Green, of the Harrison County Coroner's Office, said funeral homes in Gulfport had received 26 bodies since the storm passed. Residents who have returned to their homes were calling to report bodies or were bringing them to funeral homes, he said.

And in Biloxi, emergency crews fear 30 people died in an apartment complex on the beach when the building collapsed in the storm. (See scenes of the devastation in Biloxi -- 1:34)

Katrina drove a 25-foot wall of water over the beaches of southern Mississippi and into the towns along U.S. Highway 90 Monday, after it came ashore at Buras, Louisiana as a Category 4 hurricane.

Katrina destroyed "every one" of the casinos that raked in a half-million dollars per day to state coffers, Barbour said. And he said there was "enormous damage" to Belvoir, the Biloxi home of Confederate President Jefferson Davis, which survived Camille with little damage.

"There were 10- and 20-block areas where there was nothing -- not one home standing," he said.

Many of the state's waterfront casinos are located along U.S. Highway 90, which was underwater Tuesday.

Eastbound lanes of Interstate 10 between Gulfport and Biloxi were also impassable because of debris dumped on the road by the storm.

President Bush declared a major disaster across the state on Monday, making federal money available for recovery efforts.

Gulfport, known as a major terminal for banana imports, was strewn with Dole and Chiquiuta trucks. A nearby Coast Guard station was destroyed, a firefighter said.

Part of the city's sea wall was washed away, and nearly every downtown building had extensive damage to its first level.

Meanwhile, looting was reported to be a problem there and in Biloxi, officials said.

In Long Beach, west of Gulfport, Alderman Richard Notter said it could take the town years to rebuild.

"I've been from one end of the city to the other and looked down towards the beach, and it is absolutely devastated," Notter said. "There is no building standing within the first three blocks. I haven't seen one structure that's livable."

In Pascagoula, defense contractor Northrop Grumman's shipyard -- the state's largest employer with 12,000 workers -- reported serious flooding. A smaller shipyard in Gulfport is believed to have suffered even more extensive damage, company spokesman Brian Cullin said.

Sen. Lott's home destroyed
Among the thousands of homes destroyed was Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott's 154-year-old oceanfront residence in Pascagoula, according to a spokeswoman from his office. A friend had boarded it up ahead of the hurricane's arrival Monday, said spokeswoman Susan Irby.

"He's been told there's nothing left," she said. "They plan to go out to see if they can recover any valuables."

The senator's wife, Tricia, told him the news Monday night. She rode out the storm in their house in Jackson.

Lott thanked Bush for his disaster declaration for Mississippi, saying, "I urge you to come to Mississippi. Your visit would be very good for the morale of Mississippians who are hurting right now."

Survivors
As of Monday, at least 12,200 people were in shelters across the southern portion of the state, said MEMA public information officer Mick Bullock. He noted that number was expected to rise as more people are rescued from their flooded homes.

He said officials were advising residents to boil water, due to damage to water lines and treatment plants.

Biloxi resident Harriet Leckich told CNN "nothing was recognizable" when she returned to her home. (Watch the video of Leckich discovering 'everything is gone' -- 1:37)

Another Biloxi resident, Harvey Jackson, sobbed that he had "nothing" after watching his wife slip away from him. He told CNN affiliate WKRG-TV that they had clung together at the top of their home, when it split in half. He could not find her body. (Watch the video report of a husband who lost all he had -- 1:07)

Power facilities flooded
State emergency management officials said 80 percent of the state's residents had no power.

Mississippi Power, part of the Southern Company, reported 196,000 customers without power, and Entergy and the Electric Power Association said 659,000 households have no power, Bullock said

Entergy Vice President Curt Hebert Jr. told CNN's "American Morning" that not only were power lines down, but the utility's facilities were flooded.

Some 4,000 Entergy crews were preparing to head to the devastated areas, Hebert said, but he asked that utilities in other states send reinforcements.

He advised residents to be patient, because it would be some time before everything was up and running again.

The Air Force has been asked to move five search-and-rescue helicopters and their teams to Mississippi, military officials announced.

National Guard troops in Mississippi have been activated and hundreds are headed to the southern part of the state, Bullock said.

Alabama Gov. Bob Riley said he would send 800 National Guard troops to Mississippi to help with debris removal and traffic control there.

Search and rescue teams from Virginia, Maryland, as well as California and Louisiana were also on the way to Mississippi to look for victims. Many crew members have traveled overseas to aid in earthquake disasters and to Florida for previous hurricanes.

I hate to say this, but, where is the international community in all this? I've heard nothing of any other country extending condolences or help! i've done nothing but watch news, news, news! But i've heard nothing. That kind of irritates me considerung we have always been there, has anyone else heard anything? I hate to think we are handling this all alone.

Slideshow on Hurricane Katrina...

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/ts/080304tropicalweathe

I saw that guy being interviewed who said he lost his wife right out of his arms. That was the saddest thing I have seen in a long time.

There was a reporter on one of the channels who vowed to find that man, he says he wants to take care of him and send his kids or grandkids to college. He says the man has been through enough, he need to be taken care of now :clap
I was prayin for them all, but i extra hard for him. But of course I hope all of them recover enough to have a better life, They deserve it more than anyone right now!

I can't get over how extreme the destruction is in the areas that were hit the hardest by Katrina. It's total devistation. 5 story buildings completely gone.

My heart really goes out to the people effected by this storm.

Whew! Finally heard something.

My aunt kind of misled us: my cousin and his wife were farther north than Biloxi. Yay!

They had a lot of wind and rain and have lost power, but are otherwise fine. :)

Now... if only that were true for other people. :(im so happy to hear the the members of your family are ok

This is the most shocking thing I have witnessed in a long time. It reminds me alot of the tsunami that hit Asia late last year. I just thank God people had some kind of warning about this. I can't even imagine how much worse this would have been, had the people not been warned. I think the best thing anyone can do right now, is pray really hard for all the people who have been affected by this thing. If there was ever a time for prayer, it's now!!

I was worried about a dear friend who lives not far from Mobile Alabama, but I heard from her earlier tonight and she's safe and the worst that happened to her was that the electricity went out for awhile.

We're still missing a friend from the merrero area of new orleans, his brother is a mess, I've been trying to circulate a bulletin on myspace hoping maybe by some fluke someone knows him. I don't know what else I can do for him. It's such a strange and awful situation :(

I was worried about a dear friend who lives not far from Mobile Alabama, but I heard from her earlier tonight and she's safe and the worst that happened to her was that the electricity went out for awhile.


I'm glad she came out of it so well :)

I hate to say this, but, where is the international community in all this? I've heard nothing of any other country extending condolences or help! i've done nothing but watch news, news, news! But i've heard nothing. That kind of irritates me considerung we have always been there, has anyone else heard anything? I hate to think we are handling this all alone.

Actually so far the only place I heard offering anything was Venezuela of all places. I posted the article about it here: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=150039

But like Dark Lord said in that thread, its just a good PR move.

Actually so far the only place I heard offering anything was Venezuela of all places. I posted the article about it here: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=150039

But like Dark Lord said in that thread, its just a good PR move.


I know, but I'm really surprised that that was all! I figured at least Tony Blair or someone would have done something to help or at least send condolences.

:(

Katrina's Wake

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/05.08.30.KatrinasWake-X.gif

Man, I saw the coverage last night and everything was just gone. For miles and miles all you saw was rubbel. I hope their able to re-build New Orleans...

OMG...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473894/posts

:(

THAT'S JUST MISSISSIPPI!!!

Special Report coming on TV at 1:30pm ET:

ABC News will air a special report at aprx. 1:30 PM ET/10:30 AM PT anchored by Charlie Gibson to cover a press conference held by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on the federal response to Hurricane Katrina. Duration of this special report is TBD.

OMG...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473894/posts

:(

THAT'S JUST MISSISSIPPI!!!
Dear Lord. I'm very familiar with the person who made that thread. Still, I pray it's not true.

If it is true, I wonder why we're not being told?

Dear Lord. I'm very familiar with the person who made that thread. Still, I pray it's not true.

If it is true, I wonder why we're not being told?

Because right now officials are busy trying to rescue those that have survived... I suspect it may be weeks before we really know the toll. It may be like 9/11 where thousands are missing but never found... I hope it's not true either, but it won't surprise me if it is based on the destruction, plus the numbers from Louisiana. It's the most awful thing I've seen in this country...

Special Report coming on TV at 1:30pm ET:

ABC News will air a special report at aprx. 1:30 PM ET/10:30 AM PT anchored by Charlie Gibson to cover a press conference held by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on the federal response to Hurricane Katrina. Duration of this special report is TBD.

Thanks for the headups... I can't keep up with everything.

Because right now officials are busy trying to rescue those that have survived... I suspect it may be weeks before we really know the toll. It may be like 9/11 where thousands are missing but never found... I hope it's not true either, but it won't surprise me if it is based on the destruction, plus the numbers from Louisiana. It's the most awful thing I've seen in this country...
I know, but if a paramedic knows for certain that there are thousands dead, I'm curious as to why the public isn't being told. I'm just praying that it's misinformation.

New Orleans mayor just said hundreds... if not thousands dead in the city alone.

So, regardless of whether that one report is true, this is going into the thousands IMO, for now, I'll keep it at hundreds in the title until we get some numbers.

OMG!! they are saying hundreds maybe thousands dead in new orleans! I would not have thought that. That is awful :(

In addition to ABC's special at 10pm, CBS has scheduled a special at 8pm and NBC at 9pm. So three consecutive hours of Katrina on 3 networks.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/31/D8CB0K8G0.html


Mayor: Katrina May Have Killed Thousands


Aug 31 3:51 PM US/Eastern

NEW ORLEANS

Hurricane Katrina probably killed thousands of people in New Orleans, the mayor said Wednesday _ an estimate that, if accurate, would make the storm the nation's deadliest natural disaster since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

"We know there is a significant number of dead bodies in the water," and other people dead in attics, Mayor Ray Nagin said. Asked how many, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands."

The frightening estimate came as Army engineers struggled to plug New Orleans' breached levees with giant sandbags and concrete barriers, while authorities drew up plans to clear out the tens of thousands of people left in the Big Easy and all but abandon the flooded-out city.

There will be a "total evacuation of the city. We have to. The city will not be functional for two or three months," Nagin said.

Most of those storm refugees _ 15,000 to 20,000 people _ were in the Superdome, which had become hot and stuffy, with broken toilets and nowhere for anyone to bathe. "It can no longer operate as a shelter of last resort," the mayor said.

Nagin estimated 50,000 to 100,000 people remained in New Orleans, a city of nearly half a million people. He said 14,000 to 15,000 a day could be evacuated.

The Pentagon, meanwhile, began mounting one of the largest search-and- rescue operations in U.S. history, sending four Navy ships to the Gulf Coast with drinking water and other emergency supplies, along with the hospital ship USNS Comfort, search helicopters and elite SEAL water- rescue teams. American Red Cross workers from across the country converged on the devastated region in the agency's biggest-ever relief operation.

Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast on Monday just east of New Orleans with howling, 145-mile wind. The death toll has reached at least 110 in Mississippi alone. But the full magnitude of the disaster had been unclear for days; Louisiana has been putting aside the counting of the dead to concentrate on rescuing the living, many of whom were still trapped on rooftops and in attics.

If the mayor's estimate holds true, it would make Katrina the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people. The death toll in the San Francisco earthquake and the resulting fire has been put at anywhere from about 500 to 6,000.

A full day after the Big Easy thought it had escaped Katrina's full fury, two levees broke and spilled water into the streets Tuesday, swamping an estimated 80 percent of the bowl-shaped, below-sea-level city, inundating miles and miles of homes and rendering much of New Orleans uninhabitable for weeks or months.

"We are looking at 12 to 16 weeks before people can come in," Nagin said on ABC's "Good Morning America, "and the other issue that's concerning me is we have dead bodies in the water. At some point in time the dead bodies are going to start to create a serious disease issue."

With the streets awash and looters brazenly cleaning out stores, authorities planned to move at least 25,000 of the New Orleans' storm refugees to the Houston Astrodome, 350 miles away, in a vast, two-day convoy of some 475 buses.

Gov. Kathleen Blanco said the situation was desperate and there was no choice but to clear out.

"The logistical problems are impossible and we have to evacuate people in shelters," the governor said. "It's becoming untenable. There's no power. It's getting more difficult to get food and water supplies in, just basic essentials."

Around midday, officials with the state and the Army Corps of Engineers said the water levels between the city and Lake Pontchartrain had equalized, and water had stopped rising in New Orleans, and even appeared to be falling, at least in some places. But the danger was far from over.

The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 20,000-pound sandbags Wednesday into the 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall. But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.

Officials said they were also looking at a more audacious plan: finding a barge to plug the 500-foot hole.

"The challenge is an engineering nightmare," the governor said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

As the sense of desperation deepened in New Orleans, hundreds of people wandered up and down Interstate 10, pushing shopping carts, laundry racks, anything they could find to carry their belongings. Dozens of fishermen from up to 200 miles away floated in on caravans of boats to pull residents out of flooded neighborhoods.

On some of the few roads that were still passable, people waved at passing cars with empty water jugs, begging for relief. Hundreds of people appeared to have spent the night on a crippled highway.

In one east New Orleans neighborhood, refugees were loaded onto the backs of moving vans like cattle, and in one case emergency workers with a sledgehammer and an ax broke open the back of a mail truck and used it to ferry sick and elderly residents.

Police officers were asking residents to give up any guns they had before they boarded buses and trucks because police desperately needed the firepower: Some officers who had been stranded on the roof of a motel said they were being shot at overnight.

The sweltering city of 480,000 people _ an estimated 80 percent of whom obeyed orders to evacuate as Katrina closed in over the weekend _ had no drinkable water, the electricity could be out for weeks, and looters were ransacking stores around town.

Sections of Interstate 10, the only major freeway leading into New Orleans from the east, lay shattered, dozens of huge slabs of concrete floating in the floodwaters. I-10 is the only route for commercial trucking across southern Louisiana.

In addition to the Houston Astrodome solution, the Federal Emergency Management Agency was considering putting people on cruise ships, in tent cities, mobile home parks, and so-called floating dormitories _ boats the agency uses to house its own employees.

A helicopter view of the devastation over Louisiana and Mississippi revealed people standing on black rooftops, baking in the sunshine while waiting for rescue boats.

"I can only imagine that this is what Hiroshima looked like 60 years ago," said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour after touring the destruction by air Tuesday.

All day long, rescuers in boats and helicopters plucked bedraggled flood refugees from rooftops and attics. Louisiana Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu said 3,000 people have been rescued by boat and air, some placed shivering and wet into helicopter baskets. They were brought by the truckload into shelters, some in wheelchairs and some carrying babies, with stories of survival and of those who didn't make it.

"Oh my God, it was hell," said Kioka Williams, who had to hack through the ceiling of the beauty shop where she worked as floodwaters rose in New Orleans' low-lying Ninth Ward. "We were screaming, hollering, flashing lights. It was complete chaos."

Looting broke out in some New Orleans neighborhoods, prompting authorities to send more than 70 additional officers and an armed personnel carrier into the city. One police officer was shot in the head by a looter but was expected to recover, authorities said.

A giant new Wal-Mart in New Orleans was looted, and the entire gun collection was taken, The Times-Picayune newspaper reported. "There are gangs of armed men in the city moving around the city," said Ebbert, the city's homeland security chief.

The governor acknowledged that looting was a severe problem but said that officials had to focus on survivors. "We don't like looters one bit, but first and foremost is search and rescue," she said. In Washington, the Bush administration decided to release crude oil from federal petroleum reserves to help refiners whose supply was disrupted by Katrina. The announcement helped push oil prices lower.

700,000 without power in Louisiana
1 million without power in Missippssippi (that equals 75% of the population)

Food and water is running out at the Superdome and it's a humid 90 degrees.

Rep. Bill Jefferson of New Orleans just announced BET will do a Telethon for the victims of the Hurricane on Sept. 9th

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html

700,000 without power in Louisiana
1 million without power in Missippssippi (that equals 75% of the population)

Food and water is running out at the Superdome and it's a humid 90 degrees.


They are going to be bussing the peopple from the Super Dome to the Astro Dome here in Texas. The Astro Dome can hold a bunch of people, so at least they will be out of harms way.

D

Oh this is just terrible! Those poor people! I surely hope that we have enough National Guards left in our country to help them out! Be sure that nobody else in the world will. :(
Don't worry... we have plenty National Guards in the country.

Oh this is just terrible! Those poor people! I surely hope that we have enough National Guards left in our country to help them out! Be sure that nobody else in the world will. :(


Yes - we're organizing what we can. This is just too horrible to imagine. God help all of them. Our thoughts and prayers are with you all.


In Canada, Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan, the federal cabinet minister, has told Michael Chertoff, the U.S. secretary of homeland security, that Canada is ready to provide assistance if needed. She said Canadian health authorities have offered to send emergency medical supplies from the country's emergency stockpile.

The Ontario government is also looking into whether its medical and search-rescue personnel can help.

More info (I couldn't copy it for some reason)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050831.waid0831/BNStory/Front


Ontario gov't should help hurricane victims
Tory calls on Dalton McGuinty to offer assistance in relief effort for
hurricane victims

TORONTO, Aug. 31 /CNW/ - Opposition Leader John Tory today called on the
Ontario government to offer our expertise and assistance in the relief effort
for those affected by Hurricane Katrina in southern United States.
"This is one of the most devastating hurricanes to ever hit the United
States and we have a duty as neighbours and friends to offer our assistance
and support," said Tory. "My deepest sympathy goes out to those affected by
this terrible disaster and I call on our government to work very closely with
our colleagues in the United States to see what we can do to help."
Tory said that Dalton McGuinty should immediately request our emergency
management officials to identify what expertise and assistance we can offer to
the relief effort. This should include providing emergency supplies and
equipment and looking into how our hydro, water, search and rescue, and
disaster management expertise can be of assistance.
Tory also called on Ontarians to offer their financial assistance to the
relief effort by making donations to the Canadian Red Cross (www.redcross.ca)
or one of the other charitable organizations providing emergency aid.
"Ontarians have showed their strength and generosity in times of crisis
and it is time for us to help our neighbours and friends in their time of
need," said Tory. "It is important that we all work together during this
terrible disaster and provide whatever assistance we can in the relief effort.
We should have planes in the air or trucks on the ground by tomorrow at the
latest."

(I followed up and McGuinty has started the process).

does anybody here talk to JT outside of here? I know he's in New Orleans, hope he's okay. As well as everyone else who lives in the area

does anybody here talk to JT outside of here? I know he's in New Orleans, hope he's okay. As well as everyone else who lives in the area
:yeahthat

My roommate just found out that his Sister's home in New Orleans was completely wiped away when the Northern levee broke. Thankfully, she and her family evacutated a few days ago, but there is nothing for them to go back to.

The footage on TV is so heartbreaking :( :crying:

The footage on TV is so heartbreaking :( :crying:
It sure is. I knew the storm would cause a lot of damage but I never expected to see 80% of New Orleans under water.

According to the map in the Los Angeles Times, the eye of the hurricane passed within 6-8 miles of New Orleans.

I didn't write this... but it's a very sobering, likely correct, account.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474387/posts?page=106#106 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474387/posts?page=106#106)

Ok, the President has spoken, and I believe it is now time for all of us to being speaking bluntly. It has been my policy for the last few days to look for and point up the brightest news I could find, because I knew what we might be facing long before Katrina ever made landfall.

In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.

By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them.

New Orleans, population 1.2 million, Slidell, pop. 26,000, Bay St. Louis/Waveland pop. 12,000, Long Beach, pop. 17,000, Gulfport, pop. 71,000, Biloxi, pop. 50,000, Ocean Springs, pop. 17,000, Psacagoula/Moss Point/Gautier, pop. 42,000, and Mobile, pop. 198,000.

I have figures in my possession that indicate a total maximum death toll of 410,000 Americans and a minimum death toll of 41,000 Americans.

I derived these figures as follows.

During the Hurricane Ivan mandatory evacuation, 600,000 people answered the call for mandatory evacuation, out of a total population of 1.2 million in the metro area. 600,000 remained behind. If half of those remaining behind did not survive the storm, or will not survive from this point onward, then the death toll in New Orleans alone will rise to 300,000 people. This is clearly a pessimistic approach, but I would remind the doubters that total rescue efforts yesterday saved, by the most optimistic estimates, 3,000 people. 3,000 out of potentially 300,000.

On the brighter side, if the pre-storm estimates prove to be true, then only 300,000 people did not evacuate in the greater New Orleans metro area, 100,000 of those within the city limits as claimed by the Mayor of that city. If only one in ten of the people trapped in attics and on their roofs died, or will die before they are rescued, the death toll in New Orleans alone will rise to 30,000 souls lost.

One in ten stay, one in ten of those die, 30,000, total. Just in New Orleans.

These numbers are speculative, and, having demonstrated the method used in deriving them, you may judge for yourselves their validity. Before you dismiss them out of hand, you should be aware that pre-storm death-toll estimates from the Red Cross ranged from 25,000 to 100,000 for New Orleans alone. Engineers tasked by the City with estimating worst case scenarios estimated a death toll of 40,000. FEMA estimates were 50,000 deaths for New Orleans alone.

It is my personal view that any final death toll under 41,000 will be considered a victory. The more the final count falls short of this, the luckier we will have been.

Though these numbers are speculative, other data is not.

All of the above listed cities have been reported as having lost a minimum of half of their buildings and structures. With a total population for the region, just from the cities, rural areas excluded, this means that currently, 820,000 people have no homes and are refugees. It is probable that this figure is actually over one million.

Many of these, perhaps half, perhaps half a million people, are walking wounded or even in critical need of medical attention. Seen any hospitals that will hold half a million people lately?

My purpose in being deliberately blunt today is twofold.

One, I do not believe that officials are being blunt with us or the media, for several reasons. They do not wish to start a panic, they do not wish to admit that they do not have a viable plan for dealing with between 40 and 410 thousand corpses, and they do not know how to house, feed and clothe one million people for even one week, let alone several months. Finally, I believe that their experts are telling them the exact same figures I am telling you, and, just like you, the officials do not want to believe something this bad could ever happen.

Two, I am being blunt because the scope of this disaster, the biggest disaster in the history of the United States, not one of the worst, the worst, has yet to be reported. Many, no even the majority, are pointing the finger of blame in various directions, without even barely comprehending the true scope of this event, while people who we know will die haven't died yet.

For those individuals I respectfully ask that you recalculate your priorities.

First busload of people just arrived in Houston. 10,000 in need of medical attention will have to be transported to Houston.

I can't imagine the death toll being over 41,000...

But looking at the destruction and hearing the reports, it doesnt seem unlikely at all. Bay St. Louis and a few other of those towns around there are COMPLETELY gone. Wiped right off the map. I've never seen anything like this before.

The people down there are in my prayers...As well as the people who have family down there.

I just saws a woman from the Marrero area a.k.a. west new orleans ( where a friends brother resides ) She said they got her out, said she had to leave and everyone was gone! Ray said he thinks he stayed put. God, I hope he's wrong. I haven't told him what I've just seen yet, I don't know how to. I've been manning the news and internet for him endlessly with little sleep, since he doesn't have the internet or cable. My best friend (his girlfriend) is trying to dig up the correct address on Daniel (his brother)and call the red cross ourselves, hoping we can find out good news before Ray can find out any bad news. This is so bad, Daniel lived there with his wife and newborn baby girl. I am praying so hard they are O.K. We really need prayers for them :crying:

I just saws a woman from the Marrero area a.k.a. west new orleans ( where a friends brother resides ) She said they got her out, said she had to leave and everyone was gone! Ray said he thinks he stayed put. God, I hope he's wrong. I haven't told him what I've just seen yet, I don't know how to. I've been manning the news and internet for him endlessly with little sleep, since he doesn't have the internet or cable. My best friend (his girlfriend) is trying to dig up the correct address on Daniel (his brother)and call the red cross ourselves, hoping we can find out good news before Ray can find out any bad news. This is so bad, Daniel lived there with his wife and newborn baby girl. I am praying so hard they are O.K. We really need prayers for them :crying:
I'll keep you guys in my prayers. :(

Evac of the superdome suspended after shots were fired at military chopper, possible gang war inside? why would they want to complicate getting out? unless they want to claim the town as their own , i dunno :confused:

I'm not sure whether anyone already posted this information or not, but it doesn't hurt to share it again. If anyone wants to donate money to the people going through this tragedy, you can do so by calling the red cross at: 1-800-help-now, or through the salvation army at: 1-800-sal-army. If you don't have a credit card, you can send checks to the salvation army at this address: P.O. BOX 4857 Jackson, MS 39296-4857. Be sure to write disaster relief on your checks, if you want it to get to the people dealing with hurricane Katrina.

AN HOUR-LONG “PRIMETIME” REPORT ON THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE KATRINA, FROM THE CONTINUING RESCUE AND EVACUATION EFFORTS TO THE STRUGGLE TO PROVIDE RELIEF AND RESTORE LAW AND ORDER, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1 ON ABC

Tonight an hour-long edition of “Primetime” will focus on the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina’s devastation of the Gulf Coast region, including the continuing rescue and evacuation efforts, the struggle to restore law and order, the latest relief efforts and a look at New Orleans’ breached levee system -- which has critics questioning why it was designed to withstand only up to a level three hurricane. “Primetime” airs tonight, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, from10:00-11:00 p.m., ET on the ABC Television Network.

DIANE SAWYER, CHRIS CUOMO, CYNTHIA McFADDEN and JOHN QUIÑONES are the anchors of "Primetime.” DAVID SLOAN is the executive producer.

The Mayor of New Orleans said that all supplies at the Superdome are exausted and that people are marching down the expressway trying to find relief.

SURVIVING THE FURY OF HURRICANE KATRINA -- “20/20” REPORTS ON THE DEVASTATING HUMAN TOLL, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, ON ABC

Surviving the fury of Katrina – “20/20” reports personal stories of courage, fear, loss and somehow hope in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina’s devastation. Anchor Elizabeth Vargas reports from the battered Gulf Coast region with inspiring human stories, and ABC News correspondents update the latest information regarding the rescue, evacuation and relief efforts, on “20/20,” FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

ABCNEWS.com, the 24-hour news service of ABC News and part of the ABC Internet Group, will provide companion programming to Friday’s broadcast.

“20/20” is anchored by Elizabeth Vargas and John Stossel. The executive producer is David Sloan. (CLOSED CAPTIONED)

SURVIVING THE FURY OF HURRICANE KATRINA -- “20/20” REPORTS ON THE DEVASTATING HUMAN TOLL, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, ON ABC

Surviving the fury of Katrina – “20/20” reports personal stories of courage, fear, loss and somehow hope in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina’s devastation. Anchor Elizabeth Vargas reports from the battered Gulf Coast region with inspiring human stories, and ABC News correspondents update the latest information regarding the rescue, evacuation and relief efforts, on “20/20,” FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

ABCNEWS.com, the 24-hour news service of ABC News and part of the ABC Internet Group, will provide companion programming to Friday’s broadcast.

“20/20” is anchored by Elizabeth Vargas and John Stossel. The executive producer is David Sloan. (CLOSED CAPTIONED)

Do you watch anything else besides ABC??? You must getting some kind of royalty check from them the way you pimp that station.

Hey Pav... someone just asked me on another board the status of "Invasion". Is it still supposed to air? They seem to think it won't... but with less than 3 weeks til the premiere I don't think they can cancel it now.

Do you watch anything else besides ABC??? You must getting some kind of royalty check from them the way you pimp that station.


Seriously, I don't want to get into an argument, but it is ABC this and ABC that. Who cares? This is a national tragedy, not the Nielsens. It would be nice if you kept that off here, or at the very least show some impartiality and announce some stuff from other networks.

My mom is wathching some coverage and oh my god, there are surivivors dying in the streets of starvation. Its just so sad. He said he saw two people die of starvation and two babies die of dehydration (sp?)

The food drops have started at the convention center, so hopefully that will improve the situation.

My mom is wathching some coverage and oh my god, there are surivivors dying in the streets of starvation. Its just so sad. He said he saw two people die of starvation and two babies die of dehydration (sp?)

There's a lot of stuff we aren't seeing... the rescue operations have ceased because it's too dangerous and you can only go 3 days without food and water and we're at that point now.

More may die in the aftermath than died in the initial impact. It's terrible.

Actually you can go 3 weeks without food, 3 days without water, and 3 minutes without air.

Actually you can go 3 weeks without food, 3 days without water, and 3 minutes without air.
They've gone 3 days without water. (Hurricane hit Monday, its Thursday)

I am just thankful to the forces that geared the storm to the east of where I live. I'm barely 75 miles SW away from New Orleans, and our biggest problem has been power outages and downed phone lines since Monday, and even that is close to being fixed.

Our civic center and gyms and auditoriums and other large buildings are just full of people and a local station is interviewing several of the people. It's just extremely saddening to watch.

One woman was going into labor in her house after the storm, so she jumped out of the window to find help. She swam through the dangerous flood waters and found her 5-year-old son who was suffering from an asthma attack. He disappeared, but she ended up in a hospital.

One situation had thirteen children and four adults in one canoe. Another had people using air mattresses as rafts to float to safety. It really is depressing.

If the storm came to my city, things would be 10000x worst. It's bad enough that all of the sugarcane and trees are pointing to the same direction!

damn... just damn. this is unbelievable.

CNN is reporting the AstroDome in Houston is full and buses are having to be turned away

CNN is reporting the AstroDome in Houston is full and buses are having to be turned away

:wallbang

They couldn't see this coming??? :rolleyes:

UGH!!!!! I keep thinking I'm going to wake up and we live in Baghdad now...

:wallbang

They couldn't see this coming??? :rolleyes:

UGH!!!!! I keep thinking I'm going to wake up and we live in Baghdad now...We've never actually dealt with refugees in America, so this is a situation that's hard to handle. It's hard to believe this sort of thing is happening here.

CNN is reporting the AstroDome in Houston is full and buses are having to be turned away
Holy crap...This is really weird. Nothing like this has ever happened before.

Where are all these people going to go after this? New Orleans is in ruins.

This is just so sad and I feel so bad for the survivors that are left and in need. I saw some on the TV just begging for help. :( I'm going to donate some money to the Red Cross. Also, I have a ton of old clothes I have been getting together recently to give away (before the hurricane happened). I still have them now and thinking if there is a way to give some of those clothes (or all of them) to the survivors of the huricane. It's obvious that these people's homes were completely wrecked and they will need clothes. I just don't know how to do it, since for now most places are just excepting monetary (is that the word?) donations.

Isn't this interesting:

http://home.comcast.net/~coderre/nola.jpg

Isn't this interesting:

http://home.comcast.net/~coderre/nola.jpg
Oh come on.

Some good news:

Dallas will take 25,000 refugees at Reunion Arena
San Antonio will take 25,000 at a city-owned warehouse
Low income housing will be found for those who qualify and 7000 empty units have been found according to Gov. Rick Perry

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8CBTDN87.html

There's a lot of stuff we aren't seeing... the rescue operations have ceased because it's too dangerous and you can only go 3 days without food and water and we're at that point now.

More may die in the aftermath than died in the initial impact. It's terrible.


It's sad that now they have to add murder to the cause of death list

It's sad that now they have to add murder to the cause of death list
It's unbelievable to hear stories about people SHOOTING at Abulances and rescue Helicopters.

Some good news:

Dallas will take 25,000 refugees at Reunion Arena
San Antonio will take 25,000 at a city-owned warehouse
Low income housing will be found for those who qualify and 7000 empty units have been found according to Gov. Rick Perry

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8CBTDN87.html


I know Utah has joind that list as well, they said they will accept people for up to 4 months

Some good news:

Dallas will take 25,000 refugees at Reunion Arena
San Antonio will take 25,000 at a city-owned warehouse
Low income housing will be found for those who qualify and 7000 empty units have been found according to Gov. Rick Perry

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8CBTDN87.html
That's great news.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
here is a link to a journal of someone who is there now

god, this is so sad..

anyone not able to go to their college can come to mine for free. or so our president said yesterday.

It's unbelievable to hear stories about people SHOOTING at Abulances and rescue Helicopters.
I know ohno:

It's unbelievable to hear stories about people SHOOTING at Abulances and rescue Helicopters.
Whoa, I didn't know about that part. That's horrible.

I for one was watching some of the stuff the other day on ABC and I started crying. It's so sad to see all those people who don't know where their friends/family members are. And to see all the destruction too.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050902/pl_afp/usweatherdeaths (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050902/pl_afp/usweatherdeaths)


Death toll in Louisiana could be above 10,000: US Senator

BATON ROUGE, United States (AFP) - US Senator David Vitter said that the death toll from Hurricane Katrina could top 10,000 in Louisiana alone.

"My guess is that it will start at 10,000, but that is only a guess," Vitter said, adding that he was not basing his remarks on any official death toll or body count.
Vitter, a Louisiana Republican, also called for the immediate deployment of regular US combat troops in New Orleans, saying the build-up of National Guard troops was too slow to quickly restore order.

Such a step would require Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco to formally request the dispatch of federal army soldiers, a highly unusual step.

Blanco said on Thursday that she had asked for 40,000 troops, the majority of which are National Guard units from Louisiana and elsewhere.

Five-thousand National Guard troops are expected to be on the ground in violence-wracked New Orleans by late Friday, military leaders said.

But Vitter said that timeline could be too slow, amid reports that bands of armed men are roaming the streets in the city, which is 80 percent submerged in floods brought in by a storm tide after the hurricane hit on Monday.

Vitter, speaking to reporters at the emergency response center in Baton Rouge, also said he gave the federal government a grade 'F' for its response to the disaster so far.

anyone not able to go to their college can come to mine for free. or so our president said yesterday.

Case Western Reserve also said they can go there, I dont think it was for free, but it was discounted. They have to sign up within the next week though I think.

Man, it seems like it keeps getting worse there. They were talking about armed gangs sniping off the top of buildings at firefighters and keeping people from even leaving buildings. Apparently they killed a police officer as well.

Man, it seems like it keeps getting worse there. They were talking about armed gangs sniping off the top of buildings at firefighters and keeping people from even leaving buildings. Apparently they killed a police officer as well.

Its basically total anarchy... It's sad.

Fox News is reporting that a Bus carrying evacuees has crashed, atleast one of the passengers were killed. :(

Fox News is reporting that a Bus carrying evacuees has crashed, atleast one of the passengers were killed. :(


Just heard now too that many others on the bus are critically injured. Could you imagine - you've just be rescued and that happens. It seems to never end.

Yeah - just heard that too (I've got it on Fox). Also, that Bell South building that's being held by snipers. Heard a firefighter or police officer was shot and killed. WTF People??? O.k. - I can even see people going nuts and having guns to loot, but why would anyone shoot at people who are trying to rescue you? Absolutely craziness. At least the National Guard are pouring in now - hopefully some asses will be kicked if need be.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9178253/

Just heard now too that many others on the bus are critically injured. Could you imagine - you've just be rescued and that happens. It seems to never end.

Yeah - just heard that too (I've got it on Fox). Also, that Bell South building that's being held by snipers. Heard a firefighter or police officer was shot and killed. WTF People??? O.k. - I can even see people going nuts and having guns to loot, but why would anyone shoot at people who are trying to rescue you? Absolutely craziness. At least the National Guard are pouring in now - hopefully some asses will be kicked if need be.
New Orleans is literally slipping into anarchy. It's hell on earth.

New Orleans is literally slipping into anarchy. It's hell on earth.
It does - sounds like something right out of the movies about the end of the world.

Hopefully order will be restored very soon. I just wonder how many people have perished because of these creeps. I hope they get what's coming to them - if not on this earth, then when their judgement day comes. :mad:

It does - sounds like something right out of the movies about the end of the world.

Hopefully order will be restored very soon. I just wonder how many people have perished because of these creeps. I hope they get what's coming to them - if not on this earth, then when their judgement day comes. :mad:
Me too.

It's really hard to fathom that now after all this, people might be dying because a bunch of weirdos are holding back rescue efforts. Not to mention those who have been murdered by these gangs that are roaming the streets right now. I hear 100 firefighters and their families are being held hostage in I THINK it was the Bell South Building. That's absolute craziness.

Me too.

It's really hard to fathom that now after all this, people might be dying because a bunch of weirdos are holding back rescue efforts. Not to mention those who have been murdered by these gangs that are roaming the streets right now. I hear 100 firefighters and their families are being held hostage in I THINK it was the Bell South Building. That's absolute craziness.
Not to mention there have been reports of RAPES going on.

Me too.

It's really hard to fathom that now after all this, people might be dying because a bunch of weirdos are holding back rescue efforts. Not to mention those who have been murdered by these gangs that are roaming the streets right now. I hear 100 firefighters and their families are being held hostage in I THINK it was the Bell South Building. That's absolute craziness.


Yes - you're right - they are being held - snipers are shooting at anyone who tries to leave and I heard one cop or firefighter (not sure which) has already been killed by them. What I don't get, is that the report said they're wanting to loot the building. If that's the case, then you'd think they'd be happy to have the building cleared instead of holding people in there.
And yeah, heard about the rapes also. I wish we had an appropriate smiley for someone shaking their head in disbelief.

Yes - you're right - they are being held - snipers are shooting at anyone who tries to leave and I heard one cop or firefighter (not sure which) has already been killed by them. What I don't get, is that the report said they're wanting to loot the building. If that's the case, then you'd think they'd be happy to have the building cleared instead of holding people in there.
And yeah, heard about the rapes also. I wish we had an appropriate smiley for someone shaking their head in disbelief.
Yeah, that's all what I heard. I heard it was a police officer who was killed, though. Definetly that it was a police officer.

I wish we had an appropriate smiley for someone shaking their head in disbelief.

ohno:

ohno:


Nope - need one even more disgusted than that little fella. ;)

But - I'll take it for now!

How about this?

How about this?


Now you're talking! Could speed up the motion a bit, but yeah, that one's pretty good Bri!

They just said $100b for cleanup and rebuilding. Wow, thats 10 times more than I heard the other day!

They just said $100b for cleanup and rebuilding. Wow, thats 10 times more than I heard the other day!


Yeah - that's what I heard too - I knew that $26 B I heard was going to under estimated. That's why its just too much to expect the U.S. to take on that kind of burden - and quickly. Time is everything. The one bright spot might be that it will create a huge amount of employment, but you will need the donations to finance it all. The city will never been the same though. I heard a lot of the buildings are like 300 years old and were loving restored and maintained.