I will post here what I found abt Ted McGinley. Seems he is a bad luck charm for most shows.

Our favorite TV programs are never the same after characters marry, turn soft or grow up
By TOM FERAN THE PLAIN DEALER

It’s a good thing "The West Wing" is on tonight, even if it’s a repeat. Fans had better catch it while they can. Sure, it has the Emmy as TV’s outstanding drama, plus nine other Emmys, a Peabody Award for excellence, a slew of other honors and good ratings.

The problem is that Ted McGinley was a guest star a few episodes ago. To Jon Hein and fans of his "Jump the Shark" Web site, McGinley is the Grim Reaper of television, whose mere appearance says a show has entered its final season or, at the very least, has jumped the shark.

Obviously, some explanation is in order. "Jumping the shark," Hein explained, "is that defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak - that instant you know, from now on, it’s all downhill. From that moment on, the program will simply never be the same."

McGinley is the "patron saint" of jump the shark.

"He’s a nice guy, and I don’t think he’s a bad actor," Hein said. "But you can’t argue with his record." Hein noted that McGinley’s appearance coincided with the demise of "Happy Days," "The Love Boat," "Dynasty," "Married ... With Children," "Sports Night," and last season’s "Work With Me."

The "Happy Days" appearance has particular significance. More than a decade ago, Hein and his roommates at the University of Michigan were talking about the points when TV shows took a turn for the worse. One of them mentioned "Happy Days" and "the time Fonzie jumped the shark - in his leather jacket, on water skis, he jumped over a shark."

"Everybody remembered it," Hein said in a call from Long Island, where he runs a computer training firm. In fact, he and his friends soon found that "jumping the shark" did not merely apply to other TV shows. It was a useful concept in areas ranging from girlfriends and restaurants to sports and politics.

"Gore jumped the shark when he showed his love for Tipper with that big smooch," Hein said. "Bush jumped when Cheney had that heart attack and he didn’t realize it for, like, days. But we may be talking about the chief executive - I should temper my comments."

Convinced that shark-jumping could enter the lexicon, Hein first thought about a book. He started the site http://www.jumptheshark.com three years ago, "an eternity on the Web," as a way of keeping in touch with friends and "as a good way to share it across the country." Married and the father of two, he spends four to six hours a night updating the site, "trying to keep it as current as possible. "We really try to put up witty, clever comments from readers for the most part," he said. "I’m amazed at the insights, the memory and the passion."

"Jump the Shark" lists several hundred shows and the voting tallies about when or whether they jumped. Among the categories for jumping - besides an appearance by McGinley - are the substitution of one actor for another (such as Dick Sargent replacing Dick York as Darren on "Bewitched"); characters singing on episodes; previously thwarted couples hooking up romantically; "very special" episodes and "very special" guests; characters hitting puberty, characters leaving and characters being added.

"Happy Days" is a favorite because "every possible kind of shark-jumping happened there," Hein noted. Richie left, Fonzie turned soft and became a self-parody, Al took over the diner from Arnold, the theme changed, numerous characters were added, and on and on. But it also demonstrates the highly debatable, all-in-fun nature of shark-jumping. One fan writes on the Web site: "Are you guys brain dead? Happy Days’ was and still is one of the best shows on TV." Others think it was never good enough to go bad.

I think the only show he was not a bad luck charm for was Married w/Children.

ive had JTS on my favorites for 3years :p

I love JTS. Man those boards can be soooo brutal don't you think? One of the most brutal ones I think is the "Everybody Loves Raymond" board.

GOD :notworthy DIEUX :notworthy BHUDDA :notworthy YAWEI :notworthy
KAMI :notworthy DEUS :notworthy JEHOVAH :notworthy KING :notworthy

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Good One Mikado!!!!!

:D

considering he was on MWC for seven seasons, did he really kill the show? It's hardly Happy Days where he joined when the show was going down the tubes. MWC continued to score well with him in the cast, it didn't decline until it frankly just started getting old

GOD :notworthy DIEUX :notworthy BHUDDA :notworthy YAWEI :notworthy
KAMI :notworthy DEUS :notworthy JEHOVAH :notworthy KING :notworthy

he doesn't look right these days, he was a good looking guy on Happy Days and Married With Children.

I think the only show he was not a bad luck charm for was Married w/Children.
Buffy :wave:

considering he was on MWC for seven seasons, did he really kill the show? It's hardly Happy Days where he joined when the show was going down the tubes. MWC continued to score well with him in the cast, it didn't decline until it frankly just started getting old


I agree with all of that, plus Hope and Faith is still doing well and he's on that show. I think he's just had the bad luck of joining shows when they're already on their last legs :)

Buffy :wave:

lol, sorry I didn't see that when I typed it.

Ted looks really strange now. I don't think HE killed Happy Days so much, the first season he was in actually came in a little better in the season ratings than Ron's last season. I don't think Happy Days really declined until around the time Crystal Bernard (who was able to reverse the stigma as a shark-jumper with Wings and It's A Living), Billy Warlock (who looks MUCH better than Ted these days and has reversed the stigma as a shark-jumper with Baywatch and soaps), Linda Purl and the late Heather O'Rourke came in that the ratings really began to go down the toilet, even though that 10th season wasn't that terrible IMO.

I think he is the male version of Heather Locklear. They bring her in to revive shows. He is brought in for the same thing.

Heather has better legs

but he has a better ass.

I will post here what I found abt Ted McGinley. Seems he is a bad luck charm for most shows.

Our favorite TV programs are never the same after characters marry, turn soft or grow up
By TOM FERAN THE PLAIN DEALER

It’s a good thing "The West Wing" is on tonight, even if it’s a repeat. Fans had better catch it while they can. Sure, it has the Emmy as TV’s outstanding drama, plus nine other Emmys, a Peabody Award for excellence, a slew of other honors and good ratings.

The problem is that Ted McGinley was a guest star a few episodes ago. To Jon Hein and fans of his "Jump the Shark" Web site, McGinley is the Grim Reaper of television, whose mere appearance says a show has entered its final season or, at the very least, has jumped the shark.

Obviously, some explanation is in order. "Jumping the shark," Hein explained, "is that defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak - that instant you know, from now on, it’s all downhill. From that moment on, the program will simply never be the same."

McGinley is the "patron saint" of jump the shark.

"He’s a nice guy, and I don’t think he’s a bad actor," Hein said. "But you can’t argue with his record." Hein noted that McGinley’s appearance coincided with the demise of "Happy Days," "The Love Boat," "Dynasty," "Married ... With Children," "Sports Night," and last season’s "Work With Me."

The "Happy Days" appearance has particular significance. More than a decade ago, Hein and his roommates at the University of Michigan were talking about the points when TV shows took a turn for the worse. One of them mentioned "Happy Days" and "the time Fonzie jumped the shark - in his leather jacket, on water skis, he jumped over a shark."

"Everybody remembered it," Hein said in a call from Long Island, where he runs a computer training firm. In fact, he and his friends soon found that "jumping the shark" did not merely apply to other TV shows. It was a useful concept in areas ranging from girlfriends and restaurants to sports and politics.

"Gore jumped the shark when he showed his love for Tipper with that big smooch," Hein said. "Bush jumped when Cheney had that heart attack and he didn’t realize it for, like, days. But we may be talking about the chief executive - I should temper my comments."

Convinced that shark-jumping could enter the lexicon, Hein first thought about a book. He started the site http://www.jumptheshark.com three years ago, "an eternity on the Web," as a way of keeping in touch with friends and "as a good way to share it across the country." Married and the father of two, he spends four to six hours a night updating the site, "trying to keep it as current as possible. "We really try to put up witty, clever comments from readers for the most part," he said. "I’m amazed at the insights, the memory and the passion."

"Jump the Shark" lists several hundred shows and the voting tallies about when or whether they jumped. Among the categories for jumping - besides an appearance by McGinley - are the substitution of one actor for another (such as Dick Sargent replacing Dick York as Darren on "Bewitched"); characters singing on episodes; previously thwarted couples hooking up romantically; "very special" episodes and "very special" guests; characters hitting puberty, characters leaving and characters being added.

"Happy Days" is a favorite because "every possible kind of shark-jumping happened there," Hein noted. Richie left, Fonzie turned soft and became a self-parody, Al took over the diner from Arnold, the theme changed, numerous characters were added, and on and on. But it also demonstrates the highly debatable, all-in-fun nature of shark-jumping. One fan writes on the Web site: "Are you guys brain dead? Happy Days’ was and still is one of the best shows on TV." Others think it was never good enough to go bad.





I have to say I didn't like Married With Children the way I did before he was added to the show. But not to take anything away from the actor, he just replaced the wrong guy on the show. If he was an addition, maybe he would have been accepted a lot better

but he has a better ass.
not to ME :eek:

Nothing could've saved Happy Days once the Ritchie and Ralph characters left and I enjoyed Married With Children throughout its entire run and so you'll forgive me if I don't join The Ted McGinley Church.

he doesn't look right these days, he was a good looking guy on Happy Days and Married With Children.What's wrong with him?

Nothing could've saved Happy Days once the Ritchie and Ralph characters left and I enjoyed Married With Children throughout its entire run and so you'll forgive me if I don't join The Ted McGinley Church.

What's wrong with him?



On Married With Children, His character wasn't the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Al like Steve Rhodes was and that's why MWC wasn't as enjoyable for me once Ted was added

What's wrong with him?

his face doesn't look right, he looks like he's been botoxed to hell and back. He looks barely recognizable (you could tell the same guy was on HD and MWC, this doesn't look at all like him) and his hair looks off.

his face doesn't look right, he looks like he's been botoxed to hell and back. He looks barely recognizable (you could tell the same guy was on HD and MWC, this doesn't look at all like him) and his hair looks off.
Dont forget, hes also a lot older :rolleyes:

Dont forget, hes also a lot older :rolleyes:

pardon me!!! Billy Warlock was Ted's brother on Happy Days and is only about 3 years younger than Ted is and still looks like he's about 30. Ted isn't THAT old, he's hardly 60. and Married With Children didn't go off the air all that many years ago. It's not like he's some 50's star.

pardon me!!! Billy Warlock was Ted's brother on Happy Days and is only about 3 years younger than Ted is and still looks like he's about 30. Ted isn't THAT old, he's hardly 60. and Married With Children didn't go off the air all that many years ago. It's not like he's some 50's star.

hell, still keeping it in the Happy Days family. Anson Williams and Donny Most are both several years older than Ted and while you can tell they are certainly older, it doesn't take much eye-squinting to be able to tell that they're still Potsie and Ralph. Ted doesn't look ANYTHING like Roger or Jeff, and NOT in a good way (as opposed to if he was fat or unattractive on those shows and looks great now).

No need to freak, all im saying is, people change , they age ...not to mention, on TV the lines and such are hidden by tons of makeup, you wouldnt recognize a lot of celebs as "themselves"

On Married With Children, His character wasn't the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Al like Steve Rhodes was and that's why MWC wasn't as enjoyable for me once Ted was added
Well, if the actor hadn't left to try another new sitcom (IT BOMBED!!) Married w/Children wouldn't have had to hire Ted. But that's life. And yes by the way Mikado, he does have a good ass. You didn't ask me if Heather has good legs. You just spouted that info there, which is why I put what I put!!
You make me laugh Mikado!!! :D

thats cool :)

but he has a better ass.
I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. :)

On to the real topic at hand, I don't think he causes shows to JTS (he's not a bad actor - compare him to Gary Cole in TNT's Wanted), he just seems to get hired when the producers of a show try to milk one more season of profits from their show after the original stars leave. And after the good writers have left, too. He was fine in Married With Children and has done OK in other shows since.

The difference between Heather Locklear and him (other than the obvious :) ) is that she really can help a show with her presence; he can't carry a show to greater heights the way she can.

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. :)

On to the real topic at hand, I don't think he causes shows to JTS (he's not a bad actor - compare him to Gary Cole in TNT's Wanted), he just seems to get hired when the producers of a show try to milk one more season of profits from their show after the original stars leave. And after the good writers have left, too. He was fine in Married With Children and has done OK in other shows since.

The difference between Heather Locklear and him (other than the obvious :) ) is that she really can help a show with her presence; he can't carry a show to greater heights the way she can.
Yeah, if you see my original posts, I do say that Married w/Children is one exception to the "jinx". I just happened to come across this article and decided to post it for others to see. I made the comparison to Heather Locklear solely due to the fact that they have a tendency to bring these two actors later, after a show has been on for a while.