View Full Version : UM's most heartbreaking SOLVED cases....
Fletch 08-05-2005, 07:57 PM I'm not sure if this kind of thread has been done before….so I'll go ahead and start one!
What solved case (or cases) in your opinion have the saddest endings? For me, number one is a no-brainer:
1. Kerri Lynn Nixon - it's tough to watch the NKOTB update, because her mother and the police were convinced and hopeful that the girl in the video was her. We all know what happened next and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks about that case when they're walking down a dark street alone at night.
2. The woman who was hired to be the caretaker for an old man (a retired Judge) and ended up selling his family heirlooms and depleting his bank account. The re-creation showing the old man sitting at the kitchen table surrounded by trash and dirty dishes was tough to watch. They caught her, but the judge had passed away, so the charges were dropped. I still wish they could have charged her for something. What an evil, heartless person :angryfire .
3. The story of the man who's estranged Wife disappeared with their son. The boy had a disease and needed hospital care. The Wife was found, but as we found out in the update, the child had died. I'm not sure if she was ever charged with anything, but that's just a really sad story, IMO. The guy's son is kidnapped, only to find out the boy died because she didn't give him the care he needed.
Thoughts…….?
mistagee 08-05-2005, 08:15 PM The keri lyn nixon has to be up there with one of the saddest moments. Im sure though her parents must be touched by how many people cared about her and offered support.
Another moment that was sad was when there was this abused wife and the mother was being interviewed and she said her daughter had told her that the lord doesnt give you more than you can handle," and the mother felt helpless. The daughter was murdered and then on an update they caught the dirtbag i think even UM was there to film him being captured or recreated...who the hell remembers anymore, as usual it scared the crap out of me.
The amber swartz garcia case is also a heartbreaker. The father had been killed in the line of duty only a few yrs before.
The only good thing bout the recreations is that they do them with better looking people. Once you see the criminals mug shots you want to hide in your closet.
DarkDante 08-05-2005, 11:41 PM The thing is with the Nixon case is as tragic as it is that this teenage girl was abducted and later murdered while she was in walking distance of her home (and yes that shot of Nixon walking home lit by the streetlight is one of the most memorable and most well done UM camera shots) I truly believe it is better that Keri's parents learned the truth about what happened to their daughter rather than living with years of false hope wondering whether their daughter was abducted or simply ran away. I think that Kathy Nixon from listening to the interviews was heavily leaning towards the runaway theory up to the very end while the police saw it as a kidnapping.
A few more points: If you watch the NKOTB video closely you'll notice "doppleganger Keri" (the girl in the video) shares several features with the real Keri Lynn Nixon but the two also have several differences such as the face structure and jaw line. Keri Nixon had an angular jaw and a more narrow face while the girl in the video had a rounded off chin and less pronounced features. Now granted the quality of the concert video leaves much to be desired but there are those differences that are obvious if you pause the shot and look closely.
In addition (and I'm not trying to be insulting) did you notice how much Kathy Nixon aged between the original segment and the NKOTB update? - The strain of the mystery of her daughter obviously had a strain on her. This is actually and understandably the case of a lot of the people features on UM - You'll see them on the original broadcast and a few years later if there is an update and they re-interview them - the whole process seems to age them
Later.
2. The woman who was hired to be the caretaker for an old man (a retired Judge) and ended up selling his family heirlooms and depleting his bank account. The re-creation showing the old man sitting at the kitchen table surrounded by trash and dirty dishes was tough to watch. They caught her, but the judge had passed away, so the charges were dropped. I still wish they could have charged her for something. What an evil, heartless person :angryfire .
3. The story of the man who's estranged Wife disappeared with their son. The boy had a disease and needed hospital care. The Wife was found, but as we found out in the update, the child had died. I'm not sure if she was ever charged with anything, but that's just a really sad story, IMO. The guy's son is kidnapped, only to find out the boy died because she didn't give him the care he needed.
I too get angry when I see the first case on tv. Unfortunately in the eyes of the law, knowing something and proving it are two different things. With the judge dead, there was no proof. Sucks.
The last one you typed up is of a boy named Christophe(sp) I believe. His mother took off with him to France and when they finally located her, he had been dead for about a year. He died at age 18 of leukemia. I believe that since her husband had never filed a missing persons report (or something like that) she was only wanted on passport fraud. Don't quote me on it though.
Fletch 08-06-2005, 09:45 PM Another sad case was the one with the WWII soldier who was on a submarine when it was attacked, and believed dead. Then a photo surfaced and his family believed it to be him. But, on an update it was reported that a man sitting next to the man in question in the photo confirmed it was not the family member they were looking for. So, that basically confirmed that he had indeed perished.
False hope can be a terrible thing. :(
Todd Mueller 08-07-2005, 01:51 PM The one that bugged me was about the guy missing in Vietnam. His family thought they saw his picture and that he might still be a POW. Some jackass in a bar overheard the conversation, and then said he thinks he met the guy.
Long story short, he describes the guy, the family thinks it is their missing son, so they show the guy in the bar a picture. He says, "Yeah, that was him."
On a later update, it was proven it wasn't him in the picture. They also said the guy in the bar (or at least the name he gave) never served in the military and his story was totally false.
Of all the low-down dirty tricks to play on a family. I can't imagine the hell of having a loved one missing, let alone having to have false hope given to you by some jerk in a bar.
DarkDante 08-07-2005, 02:52 PM You know what Todd, I always wondered though how that guy knew to refer to Mark Dennis (The Vietnam vet you are describing) as "preacher". Did he see a cross or some type of holy ornament on Mark's brother's person or something to make him think that the Dennis family was religious?
Cause that was the lynch pin the fact the lying phony said that in the POW they referred to Dennis as "preacher" - Dennis according to his family was well known for his deep religious convictions.
In addition I feel Mark Dennis' brother really needed to "let go" of the entire situation. Although I usually don't side with the military or federal government when it comes to telling the truth they more than adequately proved to the general public that Mark Dennis did indeed perish in Vietnam the way they said he did.
Later.
Todd Mueller 08-07-2005, 06:50 PM Thanks, Dark. I couldn't remember his name for the life of me.
I agree with you that the family was having difficulty letting go. I boughtt in to the story, but the evidence just doesn't pan out and it caused the family more grief to keep fighting reality. That's why I felt bad about the guy in the bar.
I admit I was shocked when I saw the update. I remember the original story with the guy in the bar, so when the update came on and said none of his info checked out, I was stunned.
I also often wondered about the "preacher" reference. But it could be a shot in the dark like John Edwards' entire career. I just feel bad that it gave false hope to a family that needed to let go a long time ago.
P.S. Who is the lady in your avatar? I don't recognize her but she is HOT! :happyface
Fletch 08-07-2005, 09:56 PM P.S. Who is the lady in your avatar? I don't recognize her but she is HOT! :happyface
That would be Alicia Silverstone (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000224/). I believe that's a still from the movie "Clueless."
Fletch 08-07-2005, 10:06 PM The thing is with the Nixon case is as tragic as it is that this teenage girl was abducted and later murdered while she was in walking distance of her home (and yes that shot of Nixon walking home lit by the streetlight is one of the most memorable and most well done UM camera shots) I truly believe it is better that Keri's parents learned the truth about what happened to their daughter rather than living with years of false hope wondering whether their daughter was abducted or simply ran away.
I totally agree. But the sense of hope by Kathy Nixon in the NKOTB update is devastating when you know what happens in the end. That's why it made my list at number one.
DarkDante 08-07-2005, 10:21 PM Nope not Alicia Silverstone - It's actually Poppy Montgomery from "Without A Trace" and "Murder In The Hamptons".
Later.
OriginalNightstalker 08-07-2005, 10:27 PM The James Burnside case
Fletch 08-07-2005, 11:10 PM Nope not Alicia Silverstone - It's actually Poppy Montgomery from "Without A Trace" and "Murder In The Hamptons".
Later.
Really??? Holy crap, she looks just like Alicia Silverstone in Clueless!
george ramos 08-08-2005, 06:13 PM That's what I was thinking also. I was just about to ask her who was that. She looks exactly like Alicia Silverstone in that picture. . As Dark Dante just said she just did a movie about the real life murder of Ted Ammon. It's called Murder in the hamptons. It's a shame Generosa got away with murder by dying of cancer.. At least Danny Pelosi was sentenced to 25 years to life. Anyway yes, she is VERY HOT. :D If she has a boyfriend, he is lucky. Her real name is so long though.
george ramos 08-08-2005, 06:17 PM Also that case in which the father found out his son was dead was heartbreaking. It's a shame the estranged wife never went to jail. France doesn't extradite people on passport fraud as far as I know.
KyooMac 08-08-2005, 06:24 PM Poppy Montgomery's name is soo long I thought she was mexican ;)
The Lil Miss Kimmel case is the worst. For me because so many people allegedley saw her after she was dead.
mistagee 08-08-2005, 07:28 PM i dont think they saw her, they confused the dates. It amazing how unrelialbe witnesses can be. Imagine that NO one really saw Cary Nixon, yet almost 2000 leads came in?
KyooMac 08-09-2005, 06:19 AM Oh, I know. I just watched an Investigative Reports on AETV and one detective they spoke to was saying how eyewtness reports are notoriously bad. There's even a movement to keep them out of court proceedings.
george ramos 08-09-2005, 08:40 AM Yes, many convictions have been overturned because the eyewitnesses would later recant or the eyewitnesses were just plain unreliable.
Big3sCompanyFan 08-10-2005, 01:09 AM Could someone please explain the Teri Lynn Nixon case? I remember the name but not the case.
Thanks
DarkDante 08-10-2005, 01:22 AM Could someone please explain the Teri Lynn Nixon case? I remember the name but not the case.
Thanks
Her case is one of abduction/possibly runaway. Keri was from AuSable Forts, New York and in the summer of 1987 went to a late night food store to pick up some groceries for her dad and simply vanished on the walk home (which UM brillantly demostrated with a really creepy camera shot) - Keri had expressed some interest in moving away from the cold climate of upstate New York to a more warm climate (Hawaii, Florida or California) so initially some people believed Nixon just ran away. The police however, always suspected Keri was the victim of an abduction.
Letters began turning up saying that Keri Lynn Nixon was in the South Carolina area. Keri's family began posting flyers down there and a few weeks later a woman came forward saying she had be introduced to a girl who said she was "Keri Lynn Nixon" at a picnic a few weeks before. The woman was 100% positive the girl was Keri. You will find that most UM on this board find this report to be a bit dubious because either (A) the woman was lying or (B) this was just a cruel prank played by "doppleganger Keri" and her friend who ironically developed a memory laspe about the whole incident (probably didn't want to get into trouble for starting a story like that)
Then years later another girl resembling Keri turned up in a music video for "New Kids On The Block". Keri's family and the police was convinced this was her and the preening popsters even made an appeal on UM for Keri to get in contact with her family/police
In the end it was all for naught as in 1994 it was discovered Keri was abducted an murdered the night she vanished in 1987 by a convicted bank robber who in an effort to clear his conscience confessed to her murder in 1994
There is a few more topics on the forum that go into some detail on this case - Take care.
Later.
Fletch 08-10-2005, 02:28 AM In the end it was all for naught as in 1994 it was discovered Keri was abducted an murdered the night she vanished in 1987 by a convicted bank robber who in an effort to clear his conscience confessed to her murder in 1994.
Not to hijak your post, Dante but I'd also like to add that the man also led police to her body, which was located not far from where she disappeared.
Case closed.
Steffromquebec73 08-11-2005, 04:18 AM Oh, now I do remember this case!
Creepy!
SitcomsAreTheWay 08-15-2005, 08:37 PM The most heartbreaking case for me is the case where a woman had been pushed off of a cliff by two snake-headed men. Her daugther wants justice and never really had the chance to get to know her mother because she was an infant at the time of her death.
mphs95 07-01-2008, 07:02 PM The Matthew Chase case. This is another case of where I watch it with a heavy heart because we know the outcome of the case and seeing the hope is pretty sad.
lilmissd 07-01-2008, 08:16 PM The Gilbert Ortiz case really got to me. He was the one who's wife poisoned his sports drink with pesticide and made him deathly ill, and then kidnapped their son and took off! I am so glad the little boy Jonathan was eventually reunited with his father. Gilbert went through hell, over a sensless and stupid thing. He has severe nerve damage that is permenant, but at least his ex is in jail where she belongs, and his son his back with him where he belongs!
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 07-02-2008, 01:49 AM The young man from Oregon murdered at an ATM in California. (Was this Matthew Chase?) His family and friends were sure he'd been seen wandering the streets with amnesia.
The man who actually had amnesia whose wife found him. She discovered a "shell" of the man she had married and they got divorced.
The lady looking for her son abducted in 1974. He is believed to have been found and wants nothing to do with her.
The baby girl given away after her mother perished in a tornado around 1915 down south--Alabama, I think. The family thought her name was Verneice but it was Pernisa. She was found to have died in an accident over 50 years before. Luckily she had children who did want to meet the family.
There are so many cases involving family rifts it's hard to pick one, but the U-Haul family stands out. Not only did the man lose his wife in a heartbreaking senseless murder, but he had bad feeling enough to accuse his brother on national TV of engineering the crime just to get to him.
Definitely the poor man named Larry who was shot trying to stop a child molester. I can never get his mother out of my mind: "Here they were bringing this murderer back, and they could never bring my son back."
meglruss 07-02-2008, 08:12 PM I think the Nicholas Markowitz murder story (also known as The last ride of Jesse James Hollywood) is really sad. Mainly because of how stupid everyone involved in it is. All it takes is one person saying "Ya know what? This is really stupid and it's going to end very badly, I'm going to a cop or parent." Most of the people involved are my age (Jesse James Hollywood is only 3 months older than I am) which makes it that much harder for me to imagine something like this. Yes, we all know how stupid we were at 19 or 20 but come on! I still knew better than to go along with a kidnapping no matter how much fun the kid seemed to be having!
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 07-03-2008, 02:59 AM It's so sad the boy, who seemed to be given the freedom of a house guest, didn't get ahold of a phone and call his parents, just to let them know where he was. One of them would have no doubt either immediately picked him up or sent the police to do so. (I think I'd have done both--have the cops meet me there.)
charmedsignora 07-10-2008, 12:56 PM The Dan Tondevold case was extremely heartbreaking to me. I know it hasn't exactly been solved, they're still looking for him, but I can't believe these people that prey on the elderly and don't seem to have a conscience. It's so sad.:(
SageSlowdive 01-29-2011, 11:56 AM The Matthew Chase case. This is another case of where I watch it with a heavy heart because we know the outcome of the case and seeing the hope is pretty sad.
Yeah, the Matthew Chase case always makes me tear up with sadness, and fear...
Apostapler 01-29-2011, 05:24 PM I think the Gilbert Ortiz case is even more heartbreaking now, since his 20 year old son has been charged with beating him up. Poor guy.
DarkDante 01-29-2011, 09:04 PM For me it's simple
Missing Persons: Christophe Fields
Lost Loves: Mac McDonald
Two of the most heartbreaking cases the show has ever aired.
Gelatinous Goo 01-30-2011, 01:18 AM Would somebody remind me of the Mac MacDonald case? I don't remember seeing this one online.
alfiechat 01-30-2011, 09:14 PM Would somebody remind me of the Mac MacDonald case? I don't remember seeing this one online.
I believe that's the one where he was with a lady named Mary Helen,and she ended up getting pregnant. He had to leave town because of the fact that her family was going to charge him with something, and i think that had to do with the fact that Mary was not entirely of age. Could be wrong on that though. Help out someone?
SageSlowdive 01-31-2011, 02:15 AM I think the Gilbert Ortiz case is even more heartbreaking now, since his 20 year old son has been charged with beating him up. Poor guy.
He should have screamed out "I'M TAKING YOU JONATHAN!!!" when he was fighting him :p (I couldn't resist)
XCalibur 01-31-2011, 06:55 AM I think the Gilbert Ortiz case is even more heartbreaking now, since his 20 year old son has been charged with beating him up. Poor guy.
Wow. Wonder why?
I guess living with his shrew of an ex wife for awhile probably didn't help the kid that much.
Steve W. 01-31-2011, 11:15 AM I concur with the OP.
The Kari Lynn Nixon case really was a bummer when I watched it the first time and there was the update at the end about the POS Robert Jones (why is he being paroled at all/this year!!!???) and even more so when I turned on the TV to the Spike UM several months ago and her school picture was the first thing that popped up when I turned it on. It just struck me then how pretty I thought she was, quite lovely. So, that was probably one of the sadder Updates for me, because when I first watched it, the "eyewitnesses" gave me a glimmer of hope despite all things pointing to an abduction the night she went missing.
There's photos of her parents and siblings in this newspaper article from a few years ago. Kari's sister, who played her in the UM segment, is pictured as well:
http://pressrepublican.com/0100_news/x155084238/Family-still-healing-from-Kari-Lynn-Nixons-violent-kidnapping-death?start:int=0
MegtheEgg86 01-31-2011, 11:41 AM There are posters who disagree for various reasons and they're of course entitled to their opinions, but for me the saddest solved case is without a doubt Gail Delano. She was terribly, terribly ill, and that illness robbed her of her ability to think clearly or rationally. It's so unfortunate she was never able to cope with her deep depression.
Tied for first I think would be Jasper Watkins. What that woman did to him is nearly unspeakable. Elder abuse makes me sick to my stomach. :mad:
Kari Lynn Nixon is so difficult to watch now because there were so many hopeful instances, with the "eyewitness sightings" and the NKOTB video. You really thought there might have been a possibility she was still alive, even if a slight one.
dynoguy88 01-31-2011, 02:53 PM The Kari Lynn Nixon case was a mixture of sadness and creepiness for me.
The timing issue always got to me as well. She was sooooooo close to home when she was kidnapped. What was it...a block and half? It wasn't that late. She literally passed one of her neighbors and said, "hello," to him a mere minute of so before she was taken.
A difference of about 30 seconds and she might have made it home safe.
Thiussat 01-31-2011, 04:11 PM Regarding the Nixon case, has it been confirmed that the man who claimed he said hello to Nixon when she was on her way home was mistaken? Also, didn't some boys say they saw her only a few hundred feet from her house? Both of them had to be mistaken in some way.
Also that woman who claimed to have met Nixon was lying through her teeth. It's sick that some people do this kind of thing for attention.
Steve W. 01-31-2011, 05:17 PM The neighbor guy and her said hello at approx. 10:05 PM and then two neighbors boys said they went outside at approx. 10:10 PM and didn't see anyone out along that street (I guess they looked around?). I guess the POS timed his drive-up on her pretty well, probably right at 10:06 or 10:07.
What I don't get though is that Au-Sable Forks is a small town and there's not going to be a lot of people driving around at night: how did the neighbor guy (assuming he was still outside a few minutes after 10:05) NOT see the scumbag drive by him in his vehicle and/or remember that (on the police report) someone drove by him right around the time she was last seen that night? I guess it probably still wouldn't have saved Kari Lynn, but it could have allowed the case to be solved much sooner than it was.
DCFan1911 01-31-2011, 08:24 PM What I don't get though is that Au-Sable Forks is a small town and there's not going to be a lot of people driving around at night: how did the neighbor guy (assuming he was still outside a few minutes after 10:05) NOT see the scumbag drive by him in his vehicle and/or remember that (on the police report) someone drove by him right around the time she was last seen that night? I guess it probably still wouldn't have saved Kari Lynn, but it could have allowed the case to be solved much sooner than it was.
Even in a small town I don't think a random car driving around is going to raise your eyebrows as long as the person wasn't doing anything suspicious. Heck, who knows, he may have even been parked somewhere with his lights off, waiting for just the right moment to attack his victim. However long this guy got in prison is not enough, but at least we know what happened now.
I remember the NKOTB update, with Robert Stack saying "Perhaps youcan help find Kerry Lynn Nixon..." and assuming it must not have panned out when it was not included in a Lifetime rebroadcast of the story.
It was an extreme rarity for them to find a missing person alive on UM, with the exception of family abductions. The only ones I can think of are Alex Cooper (Canadian man who fled to avoid his family finding out about his past, returned when the show aired), and Craig, who had amnesia and saw himself on the show and called his wife. It's really sad how few of these cases are solved at all...there are still tons of them profiled by UM that have no resolution to this day :(
RobinW 01-31-2011, 11:27 PM It was an extreme rarity for them to find a missing person alive on UM, with the exception of family abductions. The only ones I can think of are Alex Cooper (Canadian man who fled to avoid his family finding out about his past, returned when the show aired), and Craig, who had amnesia and saw himself on the show and called his wife. It's really sad how few of these cases are solved at all...there are still tons of them profiled by UM that have no resolution to this day :(
The most miraculous case of a UM missing person being found alive was definitely Patricia Carlton, who was discovered after being missing for 35 years! At the request of her family and out of respect for her privacy, however, the full story of where she'd been all that time has never been openly revealed. Still, it does provide a glimmer of hope that those who disappear because of possible mental issues, such as Patricia Meehan and Kristi Krebs, could still be out there alive somewhere.
Apostapler 02-02-2011, 05:28 AM Wow. Wonder why?
I guess living with his shrew of an ex wife for awhile probably didn't help the kid that much.
According to the Washington Post, Jonathan apparently doesn't understand why his mother went to prison and is blaming his father:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/24/AR2011012404414.html
Steve W. 02-02-2011, 09:24 AM "In the end it was all for naught as in 1994 it was discovered Keri was abducted an murdered the night she vanished in 1987 by a convicted bank robber who in an effort to clear his conscience confessed to her murder in 1994"
He didn't confess to clear his conscience, he confessed to cut a deal for a lesser sentence after already being in jail (or prison) for bank robberies he committed. Yes, he confessed and proved where she was buried when a lot of murderers get away with their crimes and never confess, but he still did it for selfish reasons. That still doesn't make my opinion of him anymore favorable whatsoever.
dynoguy88 02-02-2011, 11:27 AM I concur with the OP.
The Kari Lynn Nixon case really was a bummer when I watched it the first time and there was the update at the end about the POS Robert Jones (why is he being paroled at all/this year!!!???) and even more so when I turned on the TV to the Spike UM several months ago and her school picture was the first thing that popped up when I turned it on. It just struck me then how pretty I thought she was, quite lovely. So, that was probably one of the sadder Updates for me, because when I first watched it, the "eyewitnesses" gave me a glimmer of hope despite all things pointing to an abduction the night she went missing.
There's photos of her parents and siblings in this newspaper article from a few years ago. Kari's sister, who played her in the UM segment, is pictured as well:
http://pressrepublican.com/0100_news/x155084238/Family-still-healing-from-Kari-Lynn-Nixons-violent-kidnapping-death?start:int=0
What a depressing article. And I can't believe how nonchalant the whole thing went down. Here you have a married man and father of two who takes his family on a week long vacation to the town he grew up. During this vacation, he goes to the store and sees a 16 year old girl who he decides to kidnap, rape and murder. He buries the body and then carries on with his vacation and life as if nothing happened. It makes no sense.
Steve W. 02-02-2011, 10:06 PM They didn't say that he was married or had kids at the time he murdered her in 1987, just that he was married and had kids by the time he got caught for bank robberies in 1992/confessed in 1994. I guess it doesn't really matter, though.
egswanso 02-03-2011, 11:51 AM With all the depressing stories here, I think the better question is are there any happy endings? I mean, really, except for some lost loves (and even there, I suspect many are less happy then initially shown), most of these stories end badly.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 02-07-2011, 06:21 AM I think the Gilbert Ortiz case is even more heartbreaking now, since his 20 year old son has been charged with beating him up. Poor guy.
OMG the thug took after his mother despite his father's best efforts!
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 02-07-2011, 06:29 AM The most miraculous case of a UM missing person being found alive was definitely Patricia Carlton, who was discovered after being missing for 35 years! At the request of her family and out of respect for her privacy, however, the full story of where she'd been all that time has never been openly revealed. Still, it does provide a glimmer of hope that those who disappear because of possible mental issues, such as Patricia Meehan and Kristi Krebs, could still be out there alive somewhere.
Which cases were these? Were any of them the lady with the fake engagement ring?
How about the young man they wanted to find as he'd inherited a fortune? Tim somebody? Wasn't it proved he died?
Oooga Chucka 02-07-2011, 08:20 AM Which cases were these? Were any of them the lady with the fake engagement ring?
How about the young man they wanted to find as he'd inherited a fortune? Tim somebody? Wasn't it proved he died?
Patricia Carlton did have the fake engagement ring, and it was Tim Molnar who inherited some money. Sadly, as you mentioned, Molnar turned up dead.
VikingsGal 03-21-2011, 05:10 PM The case that just aired...Mac the Runaway Father who fled his weeks old baby? The mom was Mary Ann Carr - I think that was her last name. Someone please correct me if I have that last name wrong.
That episode still makes me sad because of a few things: I really don't think the daughter appreciated AT ALL being found all these later. She even said it was a traumatic experience. I feel bad that Mac ran out on the girl and their baby (although it was his choice and I do understand that he thought he might be going to jail for up to 30 years) and I am sure he regret that.
I think Mac feels major guilt over all this and wants to leave her his estate to mend fences.
I feel bad for the the stepfather who raised her - he must feel left out in the cold.
An update would be nice but I have feeling the honeymoon is over.
Thoughts?
James1990 03-22-2011, 06:37 AM For me it would be the Kerri Lynn Nixon case. I remember watching it and I drew a conclusion that she was probably abducted. However I did have somewhat of an open mind because of the interview and the letters etc.
When I read the update on the case, the circumstances surrounding her death just shocked me. Even though it was in my mind she was probably abducted, it didn't really prepare me for reading about it. The circumstances really 'got' to me (for lack of a better word), for example: being buried within 10 [I think] miles of her house. I'm not sure how to word it, it just really got to me and has stuck with me for a while.
browneyes106 03-25-2011, 04:03 PM A lot of the cases mentioned in this thread were heartbreaking. I also found some of the lost love cases to be a bit heartbreaking. I remember one case in which a women tried to find her older half-sister and later on she found out that the sister was deceased.
Matt C 07-27-2012, 03:16 AM For me it would be the Kerri Lynn Nixon case. I remember watching it and I drew a conclusion that she was probably abducted. However I did have somewhat of an open mind because of the interview and the letters etc.
When I read the update on the case, the circumstances surrounding her death just shocked me. Even though it was in my mind she was probably abducted, it didn't really prepare me for reading about it. The circumstances really 'got' to me (for lack of a better word), for example: being buried within 10 [I think] miles of her house. I'm not sure how to word it, it just really got to me and has stuck with me for a while.
Not to mention, Robert Anthony Jones attempted to suffocate Kari and then when that didn't work he shot her in the chest. He then left her body there, walked away in guilt, and came back later that day to bury her. Imagine how terrifying that whole ordeal would have been. From being kidnapped off the street late at night at gunpoint to being taken to a desolate cabin to being raped and tortured for six hours most likely knowing full well you were going to die. I hope Jones stays in jail for a long time. He may not be as bad as Oba Chandler in my opinion, but he is up there.
amandab1234 07-27-2012, 01:11 PM For me, it’s the Christoph Day case. Seriously, his mother is getting a first class ticket to hell. Bill seemed like such a great father which sadly is sometimes hard to find these days. I hope he is at peace with everything that has happened.
88keys 07-27-2012, 05:31 PM The missing persons case about the man who sold fish (? like fish for fish farms), and he went on a business trip and never returned. His wife was on the UM segment. They had married later in life and just seemed like a neat couple. The guy was found alive but suffering from amnesia after he had been robbed and assaulted in a hotel parking lot. Even though they were reunited, he couldn't remember his wife, and they eventually divorced. :(
amandab1234 07-27-2012, 06:03 PM The missing persons case about the man who sold fish (? like fish for fish farms), and he went on a business trip and never returned. His wife was on the UM segment. They had married later in life and just seemed like a neat couple. The guy was found alive but suffering from amnesia after he had been robbed and assaulted in a hotel parking lot. Even though they were reunited, he couldn't remember his wife, and they eventually divorced. :(
There was a thread about Craig Williamson.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=195923&page=3
I always thought this was kinda weird. It seemed like it was staged and like a few other ppl mentioned on that thread, he did it due to the $ situation. Someone posted an article that mentioned the El Paso PD was involved in this case. I'm from El Paso and I currently live here. I will do some research, see if I can find any newspaper articles. I really feel terrible for his wife who bent over backwards to find him and in the end she got screwed over (sorry to put it that way!)
88keys 07-28-2012, 03:06 PM I never got the feeling that Craig Williamson was staged. He didn't really gain anything by leaving, and he called UM himself, didn't he? If he wanted to stay hidden, he could have stayed hidden.
XCalibur 07-28-2012, 07:09 PM According to the Washington Post, Jonathan apparently doesn't understand why his mother went to prison and is blaming his father:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/24/AR2011012404414.html
Whats to understand? She tried to kill him. What does he think that his Dad framed her?
I'm not completely surprised though, people often turn a complete blind eye and refuse to see the truth about those close to them. The kid lived with his mom for a long time and no doubt she had plenty of time poison his mind. It brings the case of the Baskin children to mind, they no doubt had their minds poisoned against their parents as well, and to this day want nothing to do with them despite the numerous evidence presented to them that their grandparents the Maples were lying sacks of **** who painted a terrible picture of their parents. Its sad and infuriating, but it happens.
UMFaninMD 07-29-2012, 11:08 AM Julius Patterson and Paulette Hite - they killed Julius' disabled sister Jessie and Luther Hall Gordon, an elderly man they were caring for to collect their Social Security money.
Beverly McGowan & Gretchen Bruford (sp)
Dennis Depue
Larry George
MegtheEgg86 07-29-2012, 01:25 PM Jasper Watkins
tvscript124 03-16-2026, 05:19 PM The Dan Tondevold case was extremely heartbreaking to me. I know it hasn't exactly been solved, they're still looking for him, but I can't believe these people that prey on the elderly and don't seem to have a conscience. It's so sad.:(
Bumping this up. Elder fraud/abuse is so bad. Especially in cases of dementia and Alzheimer's.
tvscript124 03-16-2026, 05:21 PM OMG the thug took after his mother despite his father's best efforts!
Not all women are nurturers. I'm saying this as a woman.
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