I got this in an email, but wow.... this is an appalling article. :eek:

*psst...whatever* Glad I didn't grow up or am an adult during that era. :rolleyes:

....those were the days.

Yep....wow.. it's amazing how much our society has changed!

"A good wife always knows her place."

You'd never see an article like that for men or hear the words "A good husband always knows his place." :rolleyes: :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol: I am so glad times have changed.

Haha.. yeah, I agree! The article just sounds so wishy-washy and so fairytale-like that it's scary. :lol:

Haha.. yeah, I agree! The article just sounds so wishy-washy and so fairytale-like that it's scary. :lol:

It really does! :lol:

Make the evening his. Oh, so he gets the day and the night too?? When do you get, a minute in the morning before he wakes his lazy ass up??

Make yourself pretty because he's been with a lot of work weery people all day. And what, cleaning isn't work??

So, when was the woman supposed to complain?? It's a wonder more women didn't explode. :lol: That'd never work in our house. I come home from work and complain. My mom comes home from work and complains. My dad just sits and eats his dinner.

Sadly though, that's the environment my mom grew up in. Grandma made what grandpa wanted for dinner...no exceptions. Which is why my mom always tried to hide her green beans and steaks. :lol:

Did June Cleaver write that article? :p

Is it wrong of me to want a wife like that?

Did June Cleaver write that article? :p
LOL! I think so...haha...

I would seriously not get married if I had to do all that ****.

THAT ARTICLE IS HAUNTING ME.

first my econ teacher read it to us. then my sociology teacher read it to us. and now it's on here.

...i know MY place.

remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours...

k.

Note how the divorce rate was much lower back then.

Note how the divorce rate was much lower back then.
because women were too afraid to get out of their marriages because they were told they were inferior and couldn't do those things.

THAT ARTICLE IS HAUNTING ME.

first my econ teacher read it to us. then my sociology teacher read it to us. and now it's on here.
*Twilight Zone music playing in the background*

That IS odd.... :eek:

A little Stepford, that article!!! :eek:

because women were too afraid to get out of their marriages because they were told they were inferior and couldn't do those things.
Also because they didn't divorce at the slightest argument or disagreement. Today, many married couples "give up" their marriage too soon instead of trying to work things out. Ann Landers knows this!

I wouldn't mind doing those things outlined in the article... easier than the work load I was doing during the busy parts of last year (12-hour days [6:00 AM to 6:30 PM], 8- or 10-hours on Saturday, and standing up most of the time).

I sure wouldn't mind being an adult (or teenager) then... real music, real cars, no weirdos like Michael Jackson, people had morals, things that are long gone now were still around (like drive-ins and, out where I live, a lot of wide-open spaces).

Be a little gay...
Men! :nonono:


;)

Be a little gay...
Men! :nonono:


;)

lol, who knew that even in the June Cleaver/Donna Reed era, that they wanted women to be bisexual to turn their husbands on with the thought of them and a hot woman :lol:

Thank God we now live in a time period where as women we are able to express ourselves as equal human beings instead of living in a repressed era, where we were excepted in life to only marry and bore children...Yes, WE have come a loooonnnnggg way BABY!

I sure wouldn't mind being an adult (or teenager) then... real music, real cars, no weirdos like Michael Jackson, people had morals, things that are long gone now were still around (like drive-ins and, out where I live, a lot of wide-open spaces).There was Little Richard. ;) :D

AND the Killer, Jerry Lee Lewis. And we know all about him.

There was Little Richard. ;) :D

AND the Killer, Jerry Lee Lewis. And we know all about him.
Compared to Michael, Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis were church choir boys!

Compared to Michael, Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis were church choir boys!That's true, they had their own personal conflicts regarding the music they were doing and felt that they were "sinning". Little Richard left to go to Bible college, and Jerry Lee Lewis' cousin is Jimmy Swaggart.

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and Jerry Lee Lewis' cousin is Jimmy Swaggart.
I didn't know that!

Too funny.

Now let's get cracking ladies, this place isn't going to clean itself up...

;)

Yeah, my aunt sent that to me in a chain e-mail. Quite horrifying.

Make the evening his. Oh, so he gets the day and the night too?? When do you get, a minute in the morning before he wakes his lazy ass up??

Make yourself pretty because he's been with a lot of work weery people all day. And what, cleaning isn't work??

remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours...

k.
They're just tips for being generous and making him feel better. it doesn't mean you're a bad wife if you don't do them.

That's just like how clerks are told that "the customer is always right". it just means act like his topics of conversation are more important than yours (unless it's an emergency) just to be polite and let him talk first.

I don't see ANYTHING wrong with the article, at all.

I grew up in that era but my Mom was never like that! :lol: She was too busy raising 7 kids to go to that extreme! :lol:

But I have to say that she never talked back to my dad unless he really provoked her. Then she would let him have it!
I do remember that just before he got home from work she would "pretty" herself up. But I see nothing wrong with that! ;)

Is it wrong of me to want a wife like that?


Not entirely! I'm sort of the same way (then I have moments of sanity)! :lol:

Actually, my mother was a lot like that. She'd get us off to school and my dad off to work (in his Ward Cleaver suit and fedora), she'd do her housework, maybe bake a cake from scratch, then bathe and dress up a bit for my dad coming home from work. We weren't allowed to bother him with school stuff (at least right away). She'd pour him a drink and he'd sit and talk with her as she got dinner ready.
Obviously when she went back to work it was different (he helped get dinner ready then and helped with the dishes afterwards).
Right now that I'm not working, I do the same thing - handle everything here at home and make sure his dinner's on the table when he gets home. I don't mind taking care of my family - its not nearly as strict as that though, but yes, that is the way it was in the 30s - 50s and some of the 60s.

I love inserting that clipping (I rec'd it in email years ago) into bridal shower cards - serves as a great laugh! ;)

They're just tips for being generous and making him feel better. it doesn't mean you're a bad wife if you don't do them.

That's just like how clerks are told that "the customer is always right". it just means act like his topics of conversation are more important than yours (unless it's an emergency) just to be polite and let him talk first.

I don't see ANYTHING wrong with the article, at all.



I totally agree.

I'm surprised and shocked that you girls aren't taking offense to this. I'm a guy and I find it offensive.

I'm surprised and shocked that you girls aren't taking offense to this. I'm a guy and I find it offensive.


You'd be surprised at the number of women who want things more the way they used to be before. I think it's just more natural - females are "nesters" and males the "hunters" for the mostpart. I think women found that out the hard way after the liberation movement. We got (sort of) what we wanted - the job opportunities (although we're not making the same wages as men yet which is infuriating), but we also got all the other fun things that come with it - high stress levels, heart disease, etc.. I know of so many women that went on maternity leave and hated the thought of going back to work. Some didn't and some had to.
I don't think we mean we believe that his topics are more important, just that a lot of us enjoy nurturing our families. I know I do. I get much more fulfillment out of that than I ever did doing a job.
I think some women are too intimidated by other women today to admit this. They feel they'll be looked down on. I sure don't - its not an easy job either, and certainly isn't glamourous! :lol:
I remember in my mid-twenties mentioning how I'd just like to get married, maybe have a couple of kids, the white picket fence thing and all, and my (male) boss said that I'd have no problem finding a guy then - that most guys still (secretly) want it to go back the way it was with them as the breadwinner and the wife looking after the homestead.
I just know I feel like more of a "team" when I'm home and can do some errands and things for my guy. ;)

I'm surprised and shocked that you girls aren't taking offense to this. I'm a guy and I find it offensive.
Like i said, they're just tips for being generous. it doesn't actually mean that his topics of conversation are necessarily more important than yours. it doesn't mean that you're a bad wife if you don't do those things. they're just suggestions for sparing yourself to make him feel better, only if you'd like to.

You all are taking it entirely the wrong way.

You'd be surprised at the number of women who want things more the way they used to be before. I think it's just more natural - females are "nesters" and males the "hunters" for the mostpart. I think women found that out the hard way after the liberation movement. We got (sort of) what we wanted - the job opportunities (although we're not making the same wages as men yet which is infuriating), but we also got all the other fun things that come with it - high stress levels, heart disease, etc.. I know of so many women that went on maternity leave and hated the thought of going back to work. Some didn't and some had to.
I don't think we mean we believe that his topics are more important, just that a lot of us enjoy nurturing our families. I know I do. I get much more fulfillment out of that than I ever did doing a job.
I think some women are too intimidated by other women today to admit this. They feel they'll be looked down on. I sure don't - its not an easy job either, and certainly isn't glamourous! :lol:
I remember in my mid-twenties mentioning how I'd just like to get married, maybe have a couple of kids, the white picket fence thing and all, and my (male) boss said that I'd have no problem finding a guy then - that most guys still (secretly) want it to go back the way it was with them as the breadwinner and the wife looking after the homestead.
I just know I feel like more of a "team" when I'm home and can do some errands and things for my guy. ;)
If I were female, I sure would mind being a housewife/homemaker. I'd let my husband be the one who would have to get up at 6:00 AM, fight the traffic, put up with (maybe) an unpleasant boss or co-workers, overtime, deadlines, etc. As you mentioned with all that comes high blood pressure, stress and other disorders.

The woman who began the whole "equal rights," women's lib thing, (I forgot her name) admitted a few years ago that she was wrong!
I say let's go back to the 1950s!

The only thing that bothers me about that is to "pretty" yourself up for your husband There are so many things wrong with that.

I think the one fact that does sound disturbing is the fact that it's about "looking your best" for the husband. As though, if a woman isn't looking her best, she's nothing and won't appreciated. It's like putting on a show.

Same thing goes for men... the whole "the man should do the asking out" in hetero romance relationships.

It's just TOO much stress for both sexes in both scenarios. It's just too much like playing "perfect" and perfectionism cripples a person - as I was once told. It's like acting like a puppet to please others. I just don't get that. Well, that's my perception. I can't speak for everyone else. I can only speak for myself.

we've progressed for the better.

If I were female, I sure would mind being a housewife/homemaker. I'd let my husband be the one who would have to get up at 6:00 AM, fight the traffic, put up with (maybe) an unpleasant boss or co-workers, overtime, deadlines, etc. As you mentioned with all that comes high blood pressure, stress and other disorders.


Been there, done that - almost lost my life in a couple of car accidents - no thanks! Damn stress nearly drove me around the bend. I hated the person I was becoming - it wasn't what you see here! I was so impatient and short-tempered - I'm just not normally like that. I drove 5 highways just to get into work - its not worth losing your life over. I am planning on getting back to work, but it's taking so long because I'm being very particular, and want something that's going to fit into my husband's schedule - he works two full time jobs so we get very little time together - every minute counts.
Now I just worry about his health! :rolleyes:

If I were female, I sure would mind being a housewife/homemaker. I'd let my husband be the one who would have to get up at 6:00 AM, fight the traffic, put up with (maybe) an unpleasant boss or co-workers, overtime, deadlines, etc.


agreed, if I could get away with being a homemaker, i'd definitely consider it, and i dont find this article offensive in the least.

but because of the equal rights movement and everything that followed, it's nearly impossible to raise a family on a single income, and women are practically looked down on if they dont have their own careers.

The only thing that bothers me about that is to "pretty" yourself up for your husband
That sounds good to me! :grineyes:

but because of the equal rights movement and everything that followed, it's nearly impossible to raise a family on a single income, and women are practically looked down on if they dont have their own careers.
I was going to mention that. If I were the wife, and more income was necessary, then I would choose to work. Anything but that, though... forget it!

I drove 5 highways just to get into work - its not worth losing your life over.
Wow... 5 highways! That sounds like a very long drive. I can see why you would get stressed doing that 5 days a week.

When I'm Married...My Wife better Have my slippers and pipe ready EVERYDAY when I Get home, Or She'll get a good scolding.

I'm glad that I grew up through the 90's and up to today's age. Sure, people can be terrible, but I love the new technology they're coming up with these days, like for example, to build taller and more beautiful skyscrapers in environments where they thought it was impossible years ago.

And just because music today isn't the same as it was back then, doesn't mean it's not "real." Different people like different things and I don't like people who say my generation is missing out because we don't have "real" music. As long as it has a good beat to it, it's music in every single sense of the word.

Wow... 5 highways! That sounds like a very long drive. I can see why you would get stressed doing that 5 days a week.

It WAS brutal - got to be an hour's drive on a good day, and the final large highway (3 hwys - 6 lanes or more) was the worst because of the development north of the city, but the lack of good roads built yet to accommodate it. I wrote off my first car with only 24,000 km on it - barely broken it and was rear-ended (double-whiplash - I was the meat in a pickup truck sandwich) with my 2nd and current car. I had so many close calls with tractor-trailers it wasn't funny. Sometimes I was shaking before I even got in to work in the morning. The "funny" thing is that I would try to take the left (fast) lane most of the way home, all the time cursing out the older executive looking guy in the Mercedes ahead of me, just barely doing the speed limit, thinking his dinner will be on the table for him when he gets home, but I'M the one who's still got to get home and get something half decent for dinner ready still. We tried "convience" type foods for a while, but you really gain weight and have a lousy diet with those - especially when all your other meals are on the run.
I dread going back, but do miss the extra cashflow now. I've been off long enough - 3 summers so I can't complain at all. Besides, we're hoping I just need to work for a couple more years and then we will be in a position to retire early.

And just because music today isn't the same as it was back then, doesn't mean it's not "real." Different people like different things and I don't like people who say my generation is missing out because we don't have "real" music. As long as it has a good beat to it, it's music in every single sense of the word.
THANK YOU. Bloody fu-ck. every time i see someone on this board get laughed at because they compared ashlee simpson to aretha franklin, or said that hilary duff's music is better than that of elton john's, or said that the beatles suck, or that people will be listening to jessica simpson 30 years from now, or that *nsync rocks and black sabbath sucks, i want to slam my head through my monitor. you cannot prove that oldies are better than today's music. get over it. shut up and allow people to disagree with you.

sorry, i'm very much in the mood today to correct and pwn people.

I'm glad that I grew up through the 90's and up to today's age. Sure, people can be terrible, but I love the new technology they're coming up with these days, like for example, to build taller and more beautiful skyscrapers in environments where they thought it was impossible years ago.

And just because music today isn't the same as it was back then, doesn't mean it's not "real." Different people like different things and I don't like people who say my generation is missing out because we don't have "real" music. As long as it has a good beat to it, it's music in every single sense of the word.
I remember when there was nice, open land where many skyscrapers are today!

I don't see how modern music can be considered "music." There's no melody- it's just talking (or screaming) and the horrible pounding of drums. I won't even get into "guitars." ;)

wow, that article really is appalling! I'm so glad I didn't live as a wife back then!

the only thing appalling about it is how badly you all are taking it the wrong way. there's nothing wrong with the article, geez.

the only thing appalling about it is how badly you all are taking it the wrong way. there's nothing wrong with the article, geez.
Don't count me in there - I'm fine with them.

And funny, I'm in the same "mood" today. :grr:

But seriously it's your ****ing life partner for god's sake. They should love you every nano second of every day. That's what love is loving EVERY MOMENT. I mean HELLO? Didn't they vow in their marriage in sickness and in health. God forbid the wife ever caught a cold :rolleyes: My mom comes home every day tired and sweaty because she works out at Curves after work and in a t shirt and sweatpants and sometimes a little grumpy. I mean this isn't a date we are talking about this is every day life. That part about looking pretty just for his arrival just makes me want to throw up. Talk about putting men on a pedastal. :rolleyes:



^^ Sorry if I sound a little whiny soapbox feminist esque. I'm just sensitive to certain subjects.

But seriously it's your ****ing life partner for god's sake. They should love you every nano second of every day. That's what love is loving EVERY MOMENT. I mean HELLO? Didn't they vow in their marriage in sickness and in health. God forbid the wife ever caught a cold :rolleyes: My mom comes home every day tired and sweaty because she works out at Curves after work and in a t shirt and sweatpants and sometimes a little grumpy. I mean this isn't a date we are talking about this is every day life. That part about looking pretty just for his arrival just makes me want to throw up. Talk about putting men on a pedastal. :rolleyes:



^^ Sorry if I sound a little whiny soapbox feminist esque. I'm just sensitive to certain subjects.
they're just tips, it doesn't mean you're a bad wife if you don't do them.

But seriously it's your ****ing life partner for god's sake. They should love you every nano second of every day. That's what love is loving EVERY MOMENT. I mean HELLO? Didn't they vow in their marriage in sickness and in health. God forbid the wife ever caught a cold :rolleyes: My mom comes home every day tired and sweaty because she works out at Curves after work and in a t shirt and sweatpants and sometimes a little grumpy. I mean this isn't a date we are talking about this is every day life. That part about looking pretty just for his arrival just makes me want to throw up. Talk about putting men on a pedastal. :rolleyes:



^^ Sorry if I sound a little whiny soapbox feminist esque. I'm just sensitive to certain subjects.


Ahh - but that's different - your mom works - we're just talking about the homemaker that doesn't work outside of the home. When that happens, then I fully agree that the household chores should be shared between the couple - without a doubt!
But trust me, out of first hand experience, and with an Italian guy who's mother played the total homemaker role, he's much happier this way, so in the long run, I'm happier too. He tends to want to make me happier more and we do end up looking out for each other's needs.
You don't have to take that quite so literally - it's not like you are totally shutting up and all - men don't want servants, its just if you are at home, its nice to have everything done so you can spend time together.

Ahh - but that's different - your mom works - we're just talking about the homemaker that doesn't work outside of the home.
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With the way our house is all the time, Anyone would look like hell after cleaning it and trying to keep it organized. :lol:

It's debatable and a matter of opinion but I consider taking care of the house and family a job. I didn't find the other parts that ridiculous but if a husband can come home expressing how he felt about his day and his stress than why can't the wife? She has a full time job also, and she shouldn't have to put on a happy face and look all pretty if she doesn't want to. That's what love is being completely honest with eachother.

she shouldn't have to put on a happy face if she doesn't want to.
that's exactly my point. they're only ideas. it doesn't say you're a bad wife if you don't want to. i'm sure if there were an emergency the article wouldn't recommend not telling him right away.

With the way our house is all the time, Anyone would look like hell after cleaning it and trying to keep it organized. :lol:

It's debatable and considered a matter of opinion but I consider taking care of the house and family a job. I didn't find the other parts that ridiculous but if a husband can come home expressing how he felt about his day and his stress than why can't the wife? She has a full time job also, and she shouldn't have to put on a happy face if she doesn't want to.


Oh for sure! If you're both working - whole different ballgame baby!!
You've got as much right to rant as he does - if that's what you do! :lol:
I think my husband would take about 10 minutes and me 15 to blow off the day's troubles and then try to forget it. (Trouble is, he can't cook - at all so the household duties were still all left to me anyways - him with two jobs especially).

But the average family today does need two incomes and its unreasonable to still be able to follow those beliefs without somebody getting killed! :lol: ;)

that's exactly my point. they're only ideas..


I sincerely hope so. I mean once in a while putting yourself after him if he had an extremely ****ty day would be okay but not ALL the time.

I sincerely hope so. I mean once in a while putting yourself after him if he had an extremely ****ty day would be okay but not ALL the time.

Well, that's what I'm taking the article as- woman back then did it ALL the time. If they only acted like that sometimes, that's fine, but all the time is just sickening.

There's nothing wrong with occasionally treating your husband nicely when he get home from work, but this article makes it sound like you have to practically worship the ground he walks on!

That article is insane and sounds like some guys from the Taliban wrote it. Take off his shoes, he's the Master of the house, he's more important than you, and my personal favorite....don't say anything if he stays out all night. I'd have the locks changed if my husband did that. Then I'd clobber him.

With that said, I do believe that a husband and a wife should please each other. I don't work and my husband does. I do all the housework, shopping and cooking. He does the outside stuff with the deck, trash, grill...car upkeep, etc. I don't remember the last time I put gas in or washed my car. I do the lion's share of the chores though, and that's only fair. He works. I even buy his clothes, unless it's a suit or something. He likes my taste in clothes.

I also make sure that I look nice for him and the house is always clean. I don't get dressed up, but if I'm wearing a tee shirt or a sweatshirt and shorts, they're nice clothes, and I always wear a little makeup. I'm in my pajamas by 7pm, but I've got the best PJs going. My husband makes sure he looks good too. Even if he's relaxing on a weekend afternoon watching a game, he's showered and in decent clothes. I make him nice snack platters on weekends for the games..pepperoni/cheese/olives/crackers, humas, chicken wings or whatever. I buy all his favorite foods. On Saturday nights, we have a nice dessert.

When I'm at the video store, I get all the action or sci-fi movies for him, even though I don't watch them. I buy his favorite magazines, his favorite everything. I print off articles that I know he'd like off the internet. I anticipate his needs. I think it's fun. In our 20 years of marriage, I don't think he's ever reached for anything and it wasn't there, whether it's milk or a clean pair of underwear. I make the doctor's appointments, all the appointments for that matter. I plan all our social engagements. I keep the schedule for our lives. His birthday was last month, and I had three days of festivities lined up with different people -- his family, my family, and our friends. I handle our finances. He doesn't even have a checking account. I'm an organized and thoughtful person. I'm a lot like my mother. She ran her home like a General.

If I've got something on my mind that I want to discuss with him, I wait until it's the right time, after he's had dinner and has unwinded. Nobody wants to be hit with issues when they walk through the door.

I do have a drink for him at the end of his day. I'm not the supercook that I used to be, but I still cook about four nights a week. We eat out twice a week, and it's takeout another night. If a woman's not working or even if she is, I think that she should create a nice home environment. This morning, he woke up to bacon, eggs, juice, coffee and the newspaper. I do that every Saturday. Other days, I have the coffee ready to go the night before in case he's up before me in the morning. It's usually cereal, waffles, french toast or something, but he gets breaksfast every morning.

If there are kids involved, it's nice to have them ready when he comes through the door at 6 or so. Working full-time is a bitch, and a wife should want to make things nice when her husband comes home. What hard-working guy wants to come home to a screaming mess of a wife and kids, a sh*thouse and no dinner.

When I worked full-time, it was different, but I still kept those home fires burning. That's the nuturing part of me. I love him, and I want to make him happy. He does a lot of running around for me. We put each other first, ahead of others.

My husband does his part and I do mine. We're a team and it works. :love:

That article is insane and sounds like some guys from the Taliban wrote it. Take off his shoes, he's the Master of the house, he's more important than you, and my personal favorite....don't say anything if he stays out all night. I'd have the locks changed if my husband did that. Then I'd clobber him.

With that said, I do believe that a husband and a wife should please each other. I don't work and my husband does. I do all the housework, shopping and cooking. He does the outside stuff with the deck, trash, grill...car upkeep, etc. I don't remember the last time I put gas in or washed my car. I do the lion's share of the chores though, and that's only fair. He works. I even buy his clothes, unless it's a suit or something. He likes my taste in clothes.

I also make sure that I look nice for him and the house is always clean. I don't get dressed up, but if I'm wearing a tee shirt or a sweatshirt and shorts, they're nice clothes, and I always wear a little makeup. I'm in my pajamas by 7pm, but I've got the best PJs going. My husband makes sure he looks good too. Even if he's relaxing on a weekend afternoon watching a game, he's showered and in decent clothes. I make him nice snack platters on weekends for the games..pepperoni/cheese/olives/crackers, humas, chicken wings or whatever. I buy all his favorite foods. On Saturday nights, we have a nice dessert.

When I'm at the video store, I get all the action or sci-fi movies for him, even though I don't watch them. I buy his favorite magazines, his favorite everything. I print off articles that I know he'd like off the internet. I anticipate his needs. I think it's fun. In our 20 years of marriage, I don't think he's ever reached for anything and it wasn't there, whether it's milk or a clean pair of underwear. I make the doctor's appointments, all the appointments for that matter. I plan all our social engagements. I keep the schedule for our lives. His birthday was last month, and I had three days of festivities lined up with different people -- his family, my family, and our friends. I handle our finances. He doesn't even have a checking account. I'm an organized and thoughtful person. I'm a lot like my mother. She ran her home like a General.

If I've got something on my mind that I want to discuss with him, I wait until it's the right time, after he's had dinner and has unwinded. Nobody wants to be hit with issues when they walk through the door.

I do have a drink for him at the end of his day. I'm not the supercook that I used to be, but I still cook about four nights a week. We eat out twice a week, and it's takeout another night. If a woman's not working or even if she is, I think that she should create a nice home environment. This morning, he woke up to bacon, eggs, juice, coffee and the newspaper. I do that every Saturday. Other days, I have the coffee ready to go the night before in case he's up before me in the morning. It's usually cereal, waffles, french toast or something, but he gets breaksfast every morning.

If there are kids involved, it's nice to have them ready when he comes through the door at 6 or so. Working full-time is a bitch, and a wife should want to make things nice when her husband comes home. What hard-working guy wants to come home to a screaming mess of a wife and kids, a sh*thouse and no dinner.

When I worked full-time, it was different, but I still kept those home fires burning. That's the nuturing part of me. I love him, and I want to make him happy. He does a lot of running around for me. We put each other first, ahead of others.

My husband does his part and I do mine. We're a team and it works. :love:


Bravo Janice! :clap: I feel the same way! But my husband makes his own breakfast! :lol:

Bravo Janice! :clap: I feel the same way! But my husband makes his own breakfast! :lol:
You lucky devil. I want me one of those. :lol:

My husband doesn't know where the pans are in our house. In all fairness, he has cooked before, and he's a good cook, but it's simply not worth it. He makes such a mess that I can't enjoy my meal knowing what awaits me in the kitchen sink. He also has no idea where the SOS pads are or anything else.

I suspect he cooks like Mr. Magoo on purpose. Dumb as a fox, that hubby of mine. :lol:

What you just described, Janice, is pretty much a 1950s married couple! :)

Most married couples didn't really act like they were supposed to in that article.
It's kind of similar to the "rules" for a schoolchild... no chewing gum, no running in the halls, no shouting, etc. They are the rules a kid is supposed to follow, but most don't!

THANK YOU. Bloody fu-ck. every time i see someone on this board get laughed at because they compared ashlee simpson to aretha franklin, or said that hilary duff's music is better than that of elton john's, or said that the beatles suck, or that people will be listening to jessica simpson 30 years from now, or that *nsync rocks and black sabbath sucks, i want to slam my head through my monitor. you cannot prove that oldies are better than today's music. get over it. shut up and allow people to disagree with you.

well, look at the examples you're using. You're naming off the teenybopper acts, if you were listing bands that have the least bit of critical respect you'd have more of a point. If you were saying The White Stripes, Coldplay, Norah Jones, etc.... it'd be a little more true than naming off people like Ashlee and Hilary and then comparing them to The Beatles and Aretha.

well, it is good and a husband and wife love each other, and they should. But like it or not, women are NOT inferior to men. One reason I don't like I Love Lucy as much as I should is because I don't like the way that Ricky treats Lucy like she's beneath him because she's a woman and won't let her get her way. Any successful relationship is 50-50. A perfect relationship doesn't have a breadwinner and a homemaker, it has both. Both ends do their share of work, one cooks one day, the other cooks the next day, both take turns around the house, etc.....

You can't say this doesn't happen because my mom and dad had a marriage like this for years, where they both equally contributed 50/50, and both took turns cooking and cleaning, because both had careers of their own, and I think I came out a better person being raised in a household where I watched both parents cleaning and cooking and raising the kids.

A perfect relationship doesn't have a breadwinner and a homemaker
It works for me and my husband. Whatever works for any couple is what makes it a successful relationship. There are no rules. If the couple is happy with their arrangement, then it's working.

It works for me and my husband. Whatever works for any couple is what makes it a successful relationship. There are no rules. If the couple is happy with their arrangement, then it's working.

well, as long as you and your husband are equals, then it's all good.

When I think of the 50's couples ala Lucy/Ricky, it's as if Lucy does all the work and Ricky just comes home and is "superior" to her. When I think every relationship, regardless of the work situation, has to be equal in terms of the people.

well, as long as you and your husband are equals, then it's all good.

When I think of the 50's couples ala Lucy/Ricky, it's as if Lucy does all the work and Ricky just comes home and is "superior" to her. When I think every relationship, regardless of the work situation, has to be equal in terms of the people.
I agree with you there. If my husband ever talked to me like Ricky did to Lucy, he'd have some splainin' to do, lol.

My husband does his part and I do mine. We're a team and it works. :love:


And that's exactly how it should be. :) That's what a married couple is A TEAM. And I don't care if I may be taking that article the wrong way, because that article does not describe a team or two people who love eachother with equality.

oh, i give up. i tried. it sincerely amazes me how you all seem to have the idea that the article says you're not worthy of a wife if you don't do all those things. they are ideas for favors to do for him if you want to. i guess there's nothing wrong with interpretating it that way, but i think it's unbelievable how everyone is reacting.

When I think of the 50's couples ala Lucy/Ricky, it's as if Lucy does all the work and Ricky just comes home and is "superior" to her. When I think every relationship, regardless of the work situation, has to be equal in terms of the people.
Remember, they were *acting*. I don't think that's the way it was in their real life.

You lucky devil. I want me one of those. :lol:

My husband doesn't know where the pans are in our house. In all fairness, he has cooked before, and he's a good cook, but it's simply not worth it. He makes such a mess that I can't enjoy my meal knowing what awaits me in the kitchen sink. He also has no idea where the SOS pads are or anything else.

I suspect he cooks like Mr. Magoo on purpose. Dumb as a fox, that hubby of mine. :lol:


:lol: I think a lot of them can be like that! I'm sure mine is - once and only once I came home and he was already cooking himself up some hamburger - but he did have his mom on the phone! :rolleyes: Hey - at least he was trying! If he only had one job, I would expect a bit more out of him if I were working, but right now, this is fine. It works well for us either way - but we do seem both to be happier with the current setup. And I find doing the big bacon and egg breakfast thing fun and a labour of love - like Christmas dinner - again - the nuturing side! ;)

I agree with you there. If my husband ever talked to me like Ricky did to Lucy, he'd have some splainin' to do, lol.


I was thinking the same thing! :lol: I'd give him a good, swift kick in the a$$, but I guess they did it on the show to help with "conflict" which every good story needs. ;)

I'm sure she didn't put up with that crap behind the scenes - one of the reasons they didn't work - she wouldn't put up with the womanizing. I'll bet June Cleaver wouldn't either! She'd burn Ward's toast that morning for sure! ;) :lol:

:lol: I think a lot of them can be like that! I'm sure mine is - once and only once I came home and he was already cooking himself up some hamburger - but he did have his mom on the phone! :rolleyes: Hey - at least he was trying! If he only had one job, I would expect a bit more out of him if I were working, but right now, this is fine. It works well for us either way - but we do seem both to be happier with the current setup. And I find doing the big bacon and egg breakfast thing fun and a labour of love - like Christmas dinner - again - the nuturing side! ;)
I know how to cook, and as soon as I find Joyce, I'll show her how well I can cook. :happyface

I know how to cook, and as soon as I find Joyce, I'll show her how well I can cook. :happyface

And even if you couldn't cook right now, I'm sure that would be enough incentive to get you to the Cordon Bleu School of Culinary Arts fast! ;)

And even if you couldn't cook right now, I'm sure that would be enough incentive to get you to the Cordon Bleu School of Culinary Arts fast! ;)
Yes, for sure! (But only if Jack Tripper is the teacher.) :D

Yes, for sure! (But only if Jack Tripper is the teacher.) :D


Sure a better bet than Larry or Hurley would be! haha!

I wouldnt mind being a homemaker, but Im just lazy :lol:. Some of those tips are a bit extreme, but thats how life was back then, and Ive always wanted to grow up in the 50s. When I get married, I may not have a hot meal on the table every night or have myself all "gussied" up, but Ill be there for him to listen and talk to him.

I worked with a woman before whose husband was a Mr. Mom. They had two kids and decided that they didn't want them in daycare, ever. She was an executive and didn't want to miss any rings on the corporate ladder by taking five or more years off. Her husband was a furniture maker, so that wasn't a concern for him. His profession wasn't nearly as competitive as his wife's. He used to do freelance work in their garage on weekends.

Her husband cooked, shopped, cleaned, carpooled for pre-school, everything. He had dinner ready when she got home from work. Eventually, he returned to work when both kids were in school. It worked for them. I thought it was great.

can you all tell me how that is any different from something like this?


1. Give mom a vacation

Don't think Hawaii. Think of a day away from the kitchen. Or the home. Give her a vacation from the home where for her, most of the seemingly endless housework is done daily. Or, if she doesn't want that, start doing your share around the house. Maybe you could start giving her one day of the week off, when she does no cooking or household chores. Remember, fathers and husbands work hard at the office, but they get a two-day weekend in most cases. Moms usually don't even get a full day off. And if they are also working outside, it's like two full time jobs.

2. Let's hear her life story: a mom's circle

She may have read you bedtime stories when you were small, but now it's time for her to tell you a different story-about herself. Make a mom's circle at home in which you ask her to tell her life story. Mom's circle may actually turn into a project: one family member could write this up into a report, another could make a story book out of it and a third could video/audio record it. A mom's circle may become an ongoing family tradition.

3. Try beating mom's cooking

While most moms ask their kids what they want to eat, turn the tables around and do the same for her. Is there special food your mom likes? Buy or prepare that food for her (if you are not the best of cooks, maybe it's safer to just buy it).

4. Is your mom in a nursing home

If your mom is in a nursing home, why not plan to bring her home for a weekend visit to stay with you. Even better, why not make this a weekly, or twice a month set up, so you can spend more time with her and she can be around those who really love her more often? Of course the ultimate gift will be if you can liberate her from that nursing home so she can stay in her room in your own home.

5. Arrange a mammogram for her

Every three minutes, a woman in America is diagnosed with breast cancer. That woman could be your mom.

A woman's chances of developing breast cancer increases with age. The National Cancer Institute recommends women age 40 and over be screened with mammography every one to two years. It also advises that women at higher risk of breast cancer get medical advice before they are 40 about when to begin screening and about the frequency of their screening. Do this for your mom, so you can see her spend the rest of her life in good health, Insha Allah (if God wills).

6. Is your mom a bookworm?

If so, buy a small cabinet and buy all of the books you can afford. Then take it to her home and set it up for her.

8. If your relationship has not been the best with your Mom

If your relationship with your mom has not been the best, sit down in front of a year-long calendar or planner and mark down dates and things which you can plan to improve this relationship. Start off by making a formal first appointment. Then pick dates on which you can keep contact with her and build your relationship on a regular basis.

(it's from some islamic web site and i left out three tips that were too revolved around religion.)

:rofl: I find that hilariously stupid.