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suzannec4444

07-11-2005, 05:32 PM

Hi

I believe this story goes with the latest lead.I knew when the right lead came in.I would know what happened.

Whatever Happened to Tami-Lynn Leppert?

7 years ago, model says goodbye, hasn't been heard from since

I like this place, I've lived here all my life, and I'd like to stay here. ever since I was a little girl, I've always
dreamed of having a house in cocoa beach and living happily ever after.

-Tami-lynn leppert, march 1983

It was the last interview she gave before the fairy tale disintegrated, And she was good at it: Poised engaging, An easy
smile that could melt glacial skepticism. Naturally she was good. She was a pro. Four hundred-ten talent and beauty
contests since age 4. Two hundred-eighty trophies.
She just turned 18. And she was at a crossroad. Her latest flirtation with hollywood-a cinemetic turkey called
"Spring Break"-had just been released.But she harbored no illusions about it. Her non-speaking role as a bikinied nymphet
carried no more weight than her erlier camoes in "Little Darlings" and "Scarface."
What "Spring Break" represented was the latest stop in a carefully nurtured ascent to movie stardom. If visibility
management meant getting tami's curvaceous hips splashed across a movie poster (Four college dudes erecting a
"Spring Break" flag atop them, Reminiscent of the allied triumph at Iwo Jima), That was good enough for now.
And if Tami-Lynn leppert felt compelled to feign embarrasment over this no-talent coup by crossing her eyes and making a
goofy face, These were times for celebration.
Or so it seemed.
At least three producers were talking major roles in upcoming projects. One critic, Steve Walz, Was projecting her to be
"One of the stars of the 80's" involving her name in the same breath with Brooke Shields and insisting, "She's not just
another dumb blonde"
Model, Dancer, Beauty Queen, Covergirl at age 13. Five-feet five, Hazel eyes, 105 pounds. A can't miss resume. A magnetic
aura that turned the heads of men and boys alike, Pulling strangers and their promises into her orbit.
But somewhere inside those invisible walls, Beyond the curiosity of judges and talent scouts, A bomb was ticking. Those
familiar with the sound never understood until it was much too late:
The weight of expectations.
A web of paranoia.
Broken glass.
On July 6, 1983, Tami-lynn Leppert went for a ride and vanished so cleanly it was as if she'd never existed.
Nearly seven years later, Beneath the cobwebs of distance. There isn't even a shrine to commemorate what was. Only a
question: Was Tami the architect and star of the perfect getaway or the victim of a perfect crime?

TAMI'S MOTHER/AGENT
Linda Curtis moved from Brevard County three years ago,
Primarily to shake the emptiness she felt every time
she saw something that reminded her of Tami.
Which was always.
curtis lives in orlando, Where she conducts her modeling business from a home she only half-jokingly refers to as
"The Cave." An artist with eccentric notions stucco edifice himself-Its few windows are primarily ventilation caliber.
Having been spotlighted nationally by life magazine and ABC's "20/20" for her talents as one of America's most succesful
child modeling agents. Curtis might well be expected to enjoy a lifestyle commensurate with her abilities.
But nothing ever come easy for Linda Curtis.
After a series of heart attacks, Chronic diabetes and a ruptured tendon in her foot, her mobility is relegated to a walker
and a wheelchair. She doesn't want her picture taken. And there is the heavy emotional baggage to contend with, Which includes
two husbands, Five children and rip-offs by business assotiates
By 1983 only daughter Tami remained a part of her household. Today, Even Tami is a memory-which Curtis is still attempting
to manage, Via book and a screen-play.
Predictably, The story will accent all those magic moments only a mother can recite so well:
The time her nine-year-old daughter surrendered a beauty pageant to the broken hearted runner-up after an official mistakenly
announced the other girl the winner, The time Tami " sold more Girl Scout cookies than anyone else in Brevard County".
Tami as a philanthropist who made special visits to Brevard County Detention Center inmates on Christmas Eve: A popular
little girl who "Was always sticking up for the underdog."
But Curtis plans to unsheathe a more pointed edge in the book. Contrary to what some people think, she insists that her
daughter was no runaway. Tami, she charges, was yanked into the shadows by a conspiracy involving prominent Brevardians
whose names, would make trial lawyers eyes light up with dollar signs.
" I want people over there to know I'm writing a book," She says referring to a project (no actual names used) she's been
tolling over for months. "I want to shake them up. I want the criminal to know they can't absorb my child-or anyone's child-
wothout ulimately paying the penalty for it."

TAMI-LYNN LEPPERT
now resides in the computer memory bank of Florida Crime Information center. A comunity of 5,944, roughly the size of Indian
Harbour Beach. She can be found there alongside another cocoa beach entry Keith D. Fleming. who vanished in 1977 at age 13.
Cocoa Beach Police Capt. Bob Wicker is mildly indignant over curtis' allegation that his department blew the investigation
of Tami's disappearance. He says he coudn't find a hint of foul play.
"I can't say there was anything unusual about the case. Other than some faintly problems I understand she was having at
home" Wicker says. "The agent in charge was a real go-getter. He he was the type the sees communists behind every tree,
if you know what I mean."
The case fell into the departments lap when Tami, a Rockledge resident, was last reported seen in Cocoa Beach. Among other
things, Curtis says the young man who picked up her daughter up on the morning of July 6, 1983, was never thoroughly
interrogated. She says that Tami once told her that she feared the same man-A businessman-wanted to kill her.
Wicker dismisses.
"Nothing in the report has him down as a suspect" He says. "We have no reason to believe he did anything wrong, at this
time."
Wicker says he has no current Address on the man Tami was last seen with. Because the case is still pending, he says,
records on the investigation remain closed.

"FAMILY PROBLEMS"
Tami-Lynn Leppert lived in fear shortly before she vanished. Strangers prowled around the eyes of those she knew best.
She woudn't drink from open containers; She only ate food from someone else's plate, Not hers; She stayed in her room and
refused to answer the door. Linda Curtis concedes these things. She says she got her first glimpse of deterioration the
year before, When Tami broke down on the set of Brian DePalma's cocaine-war thriller, "Scarface." A blood-and-guts scene
during the filming sent her into hysterics.
But Curtis insists that Tami's authentic tears were rooted in a confession that would consume her. Tami told her mother that
how in an effort to score points, a friend bragged to her on a large-scale, drug-money laundering operation in Brevard. Cops,
Bankers, Leading citizens-the people in on the take were powerful, powerful enough to make Tami fear she knew too much.
Curtis says she told Tami to make a report with the Brevard County Sheriff's Department.
Officer Mike Wong, now with the department's drug task force , says he vaguely remembers his meeting with Tami. "It was so
long ago," Wong says "and the best I can recollect , the the conversation didn't have anything to do with anyone trying to
kill her. I think she came in to talk about some stolen propety she wanted back."
Wong expresses bewilderment over the drug scenario. "the last I heard, they thought that racecar driver was involved."
That referance is to serial killer Christopher Wilder.
Before he was shot to death in a tussle with a state trooper on the canadian border in spring 1984, Wilder's murder spree
lanced Brevard. The FBI linked Wilder-A Grand Prix aficianado who posed as a fashion phographer-with the abduction and
murder aspiring Satelite Beach model Terry Ferguson , last seen at Merritt square mall.
Curtis filled a $1 million wrongul death sult against wilders astate that year. She says Wilder met her daughter daughter
on the set of "Spring Break" in fort lauderdale and traveled to Brevard in a fruitless effort to convince Curtis to let
him photograph Tami.
Curtis said she never considered Wilder a strong suspect. She says she only sued the Wilder estate luring the manhunt to
force him to answer questions about Tami. She dropped the lawsuit after wilder's death.

RICK ADAMS
WAS one of the few people Tami-Lynn Leppert trusted to the end. "It's hard to say why, really" Adams says. "Maybe it's
because I never really wanted anything from her. "now 27, Adams sifts through his pictures. Pointing out the times he
escorted her to both his junior and senior proms at Cocoa High School. It was one of those hard-to-catagorize teen-age
relationships-not exactly a hot romance, but not exactly little sister/big brother either. He knows only one thing for sure
"She could've dated anybody she wanted to. "They drifted apart after he graduated. Perhaps that was inevitable."Tami had alot
of pressure about her apearance in public, "Adam recalls. "Because of who she was, she felt like she had this image she had
to live up to. Everything she did was, like, fine-tooth combed. Her make up had to be just right, every hair had to be in
place, what she wore had to be perfect. It drove me crazy, to tell the truth. I got burned out on the whole thing, with with
so many people hanging around, so many people coming up to her. It was almost like having to compete for attention, and I
wasn't into that." but shortly before she disappeared, Adams says Tami began confiding in him, telling him that someone was
trying to kill her. He says the fear was real. "I knew it wasn't drugs. I can say for sure that Tami wasn't into drugs. She
didn't even drink. "Finally, on Tuesday evening July 5, 1983. Tami told Adam she had "seen something she shouldn't have
seen" She didn't get aspecific. They went to pray at Rockville Evangel Temple. "Tami cried as hard as I've seen anyone cry
before" Adams says.He dropped her off in front of her house around 11 that night . They made pland to go back to church
wednsday afternoon."And then." Adams says "She looked at me and said. I just want you to know that I may have to go away for
a while. But I also want you to know that I love you."
Then they hugged each other, and held the embrace for as long as it took.
Rick Adams never got a chance to ask her what she meant. He called late the next morning to reconfirm their date.
She was already gone.

CURTIS CONCEDES TAMI
had been restless, that her career hadn't advances as quickly as she wanted. She says Tami was preparing to pursue some
acting leads waiting for her in California.
But paranioa engulfed her first. It was the last of June, first of July 1983.
"Tami went outside for some reason-which seemed strange, considering how she afraid to go outside-when the door slammed
and locked behind her. I think a gust of wind caught it." Curtis says. "Anyway, she went berserk. She bashed the window with
a baseball bat she picked up in the front yard, and she reached her and inside to unlock the door. "She came running in,
Yelling and screaming, but before she could do anything I pinned her against the wall and kept saying. " I love you, Tami I
love you Tami, over and over again, And then she went limp."
The next day Curtis checked Tami into the Brevard mental health center for 72 hour observation. " Then they released her and
said she was normal as far as they could tell." Curtis says. "So we were all set to check her with another psycho therapist.
But We were too late."
Curtis was sitting in the house that wednsday morning when she heard a car horn beep out front. Tami peered out the window
and went out the door. she was wearing a light blue blouse, a denim shirt and was barefoot. She stuck her head back in and
said "bye mommy, I'll see you in a little bit, OK?"
"For some reason, I was preoccupied that day and I didn't pay much attention to it, and I'll never forgive myself for that."
Curtis says. On the other hand since her daughter did not have her purse. curtis didn't think she was going far.
Ten minutes later, Curtis heard the car engine crank up. She rose to see what was going on. Tami was riding away in the
car of the young man she suppossedly feared.
It was 11 a.m. Linda Curtis never saw her daughter again.

THE LAST REPORTED
contact Tami attempted came in a flurry of calls she made that wednesday afternoon.
Three times she left urgent messages for her aunt, Ginger Kolsch, at Kolsch's Cocoa Beach costume shop, Balloonatics. Kolsch
was out of town, Tami said she was calling from a nearby location.
"Tami was definately afraid of somebody," Kolsch says. "It was real, I'm convinced of that."
Kolsch says the runaway scenario doesn't wash.

"DID YOU EVER
see her play Peter Pan?" asks Rick Adams. "Linda's got it on video."
The performance in an enduring image in Adams' memory, a special place for the little girl he thought was destined to be a star.
This is the one where Tami-Lynn Leppert, dressed as the famous boy-who-wouldn't-grow-up, is confronted with a dying Tinkerbell
poisoned by the notorious Captain Hook. And the only way to save Tinkerbell's life is to rally the support of the audience.
"Oh, please, please, everyone who believes in fairies, clap your hands!" Tami urges.
Grief and fear come trickling down Tami's cheeks so easily it flows like blood from a fresh wound.
"Please!"she continues with greater conviction, "Louder! Oh please, louder!"
The audience responds with lusty, award-winning applause and Tami's tears of sorrow smear with tears of relief.
Tinkerbell lives.
"She could make you cry, man," Adams says, "That was Tami at her best. She had the gift."
A fountain of sorrow, forever young.

Florida Today March 18, 1990
By Billy cox

If you know anything about my sister Tammy Lynn Leppert.please email me at suzannec4444@yahoo.com

DarkDante

07-11-2005, 06:56 PM

Welcome suzanne,

I have a quick question if Tammy was not schizophrenic, why did the UM segment portray her basically as one. I have a degree in psychology and from the way the UM portrayed the case it made it seem like all of these paranoiac episodes were creations in her head. Furthermore I would like to state for the record that there are millions of people (my own father included) who due to mental illness have stated that people are out to kill them often refusing to identify the people when pressed. I know this first hand because during my teen years my mother and I went through a living hell with my father as he battled what we now know as paranoid schizophrenia when throughtout this ordeal which latest several years he would consistently insist that someone had a contract out on him but would never say who or why? This horrid mental ailment eventually lead to him taking his own life in 1979.

I'm not trying to question you or cast doubt on what you say but my question still remains why the UM segment isn't very sympathetic in my view to Tammy's insistance that these threats were real.

Later.

suzannec4444

07-11-2005, 07:19 PM

Hi
I really do not know why tammy was portrayed that way.Just no one really knew what was going on or what happened.Because tammy was acting paranoid and scared and she did not tell anyone who she was afraid of because she was scared.(she apparantly didn't name names)Her fear was real.She was not schizophrenic.This newest lead tells me she really was afraid of someone and this person threatened to kill her.I would be afraid too.It also shows me the person she was going to tell on was involved with something this person should not have been.I don't know what yet.
ttyl
suzanne

suzannec4444

07-13-2005, 02:05 PM

Hi
Here is Tammy Lynn Lepperts web site.May I please ask everyone if they can to Please put this where ever you can ok?and please help and please use the contact person as her sister suzanne at suzannec4444@yahoo.com. You can make a difference.you really can. ((Hugs))

http://www.geocities.com/findtammy/

http://p208.ezboard.com/bicaremissingpersonscoldcases

Thankyou and God bless you

Suzanne

suzannec4444

07-17-2005, 11:25 AM

Hi
I know I have been looking for Unidentified Jane Does for Tammy.But if you know of any sightings of Tammy Lynn Leppert or have ever called in a sighting of Tammy and also if you ever called in a tip to unsolved mysteries.Please email me too ok?Please email me at suzannec4444@yahoo.com
Thankyou and God bless you.
Suzanne

suzannec4444

08-04-2005, 03:57 PM

Hi
If any one has ever called in a lead to the unsolved mysteries or to the police.May I please ask you to do it again.But this time to me at suzannec4444@yahoo.com will look into it.Please help me.all I ask is if there is any leads called into please email me too ok?
Thankyou and God bless you.

Suzanne

suzannec4444

09-07-2005, 08:07 AM

Hi
Thankyou and I am waiting for her show to come on again to get her story out there.
thankyou
suzanne

Tap Dancer

02-05-2006, 06:52 PM

* http://www.childsearch.org/tammy_leppert.html

* http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/211dffl.html

* http://www.find-missing-children.org/Posters/poster362.htm

Today is/was Tammy's birthday. :(

suzannec4444

02-07-2006, 01:02 PM

Hi
I dedicated a poem to her on the other thread for her birthday.All these boards got thier information from me and the board I care missing persons cold cases.The board I made and dedicated to her.Please use her board.

I am asking to please contact only the family member contact with any leads.

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

http://p208.ezboard.com/ficaremissingpersonscoldcasesfrm7.showMessageRange?topicID=1.topic&start=1&stop=20

Thankyou and God bless you

Suzanne

treeman

02-09-2007, 12:44 AM

This was a very interesting case. Tammy may have been worried for her life but i doubt everything that happened like the car accross the road and stuff was all to do with the people that wanted her murdered. She probably imagined a lot of it but she still may of been wanted killed.

-Ben

Fletch

02-10-2007, 06:02 AM

I was not around when Tammy came up missing.
suzanne

Hi Suzanne. Forgive my ignorance, but by "not around" do you mean you were not born yet, or were you just not living with Tammy at the time?

Also, I just wanted to let you know that I saw your sister's case when it first aired on UM and I hope you are able to get closure on this one day. It hurts us just seeing the UM segment and reading the articles....I can't even imagine what it must be like for you. :(

mistagee

02-11-2007, 02:04 PM

is it possible Tammy may have been the victim of an abortion gone wrong?

Huskerz85

02-11-2007, 04:14 PM

wiseguy182

04-11-2007, 06:44 AM

here's something I just thought of. Tammy was from Cocoa Beach, Florida. Wasn't Amy Billig also from Cocoa Beach? Think there's any chance the Outlaws nabbed her?

That leads me to this realization: the ending of this segment is rather abrupt (as with at least a few others) , which is kind of odd because all along I kept thinking what a wonderfully produced segment this was, and they had been focusing on details. We're lead to believe that somebody from this party nabbed her, although who knows. They don't go into great detail about the party. I'm left wondering "What kind of party was it?" "Who was there?" and questions like that.

I always thought it was a bit convenient for the supposed kidnappers to happen upon Tammy, as they would have had absolutely no idea that she would have been dropped off in town as she had basically been a shut-in for several months up to that point. Plus, the party I believe was an out-of-town party, so the alleged kidnappers would have had to travel a significant distance, then magically find Tammy downtown on the one day she's out. This seems unlikely.

Another realization that I had is a detail that might be easy to overlook, in fact I originally overlooked it. Tammy's mother said regarding the day of her disappearance, that Tammy was in an unusually (for the time period) good and normal mood. Interestingly, a large number of people that are about to commit suicide or run away are in a good mood shortly before doing so. The reason for this is that they know that they will no longer have to put up with certain burdens they face in their current environment. the segment very briefly touches up on the Tammy wanting to get away from her mother angle, and I wonder if there's merit to it. Tammy did compete in 300+ pageants, and it could have taken a toll on her.

I don't know if I disbelieve the friend that dropped Tammy off or not, but it seems unlikely that someone so terrified of something/someone would allow themselves to be dropped off, by themselves. Plus she had no shoes or purse at the time.

Unfortunately, I don't think the odds of Tammy being found alive are very good. Most would say she's uncommonly beautiful and she would no doubt stand out in a crowd. I don't think there's been any sightings in 24 years. But, we can always have hope she will be found alive and is in good health.

Chris Billings

04-11-2007, 08:09 AM

DarkDante's theory number #5 makes sense to me too.

Christopher

Awsi Dooger

04-11-2007, 03:24 PM

here's something I just thought of. Tammy was from Cocoa Beach, Florida. Wasn't Amy Billig also from Cocoa Beach? Think there's any chance the Outlaws nabbed her?

You're about 200 miles off. Amy Billig was from Coconut Grove, which is a section of Miami. Tammy Leppert was from Cocoa Beach, which is on the Space Coast near Cape Canaveral.

Jediknight1823

04-11-2007, 08:22 PM

I always thought it was a bit convenient for the supposed kidnappers to happen upon Tammy, as they would have had absolutely no idea that she would have been dropped off in town as she had basically been a shut-in for several months up to that point. Plus, the party I believe was an out-of-town party, so the alleged kidnappers would have had to travel a significant distance, then magically find Tammy downtown on the one day she's out. This seems unlikely.

If Tammy did witness something having to do with drug dealing and money laundering, it's a complete possibility that they wouldn't have had to travel that far. She could have seen something that a lot of banks and high profile people in Florida knew about. The people who wanted her to keep quiet could have been keeping an eye on her, she noticed them after getting out of the car, and they decided to make sure she wouldn't talk.

wiseguy182

04-12-2007, 06:36 AM

I searched the net for info on Tammy. There are a lot of conflicting reports out there. Some state that Tammy didn't carry a purse, others report that she had a grey purse with her. Some are saying she was barefoot, while others say this is incorrect. One site says that the UM segment got several things wrong.

DP1

04-15-2007, 11:04 PM

Amy Billig's disappearance was almost ten years before Tammy Leppert's if I recall as well.

mozartpc27

04-18-2007, 01:04 PM

I hope I am not being disrespectful to Suzanne, but I still think the extreme paranoia exhibited by Tammy is indicative of some kind of mental distrubance. Her fear would have appeared very real, I'm sure, because to Tammy it would have been real. If doctors examined her and ruled out schizophrenia, then I would be interested in examining other causes. Extreme bipolar disorder can cause similar delusions, and there are other conditions capable of producing these types of symptoms as well. I just highly doubt that a girl that young could be an imminent target of supposedly dangerous people for so long without turning up murdered. She was exhibiting the paranoia for some time, as I recall, between when she came back from shooting the film and when she finally disappeared. If she really had seen something she "wasn't supposed to," she would have been taken care of pretty quickly --- it makes no sense to wait and wait and wait, giving her ample opportunity to squeal to whomever before abducting her.

One question I would have for Suzanne, if she ever posts here again, would be this: what exactly do you mean that Tammy was going to "tell on" whoever owed her money? Tell whom? And what would "telling" have accomplished? It's not as if we're talking about little kids here --- if she was really owed a substantial amount of money by someone who could not or would not pay, she would have to a) have proof of the debt and b) be ready to consult a lawyer about how she could go about getting remittance. She wouldn't have been someone with the power to refer the person to a collection agency, I assume, so the only reason to fear her, from the debtor's perspective, would be if she were really preparing to file a law suit, and even then the burden of proof would have been on her. Surely there would have been evidence she was preparing a law suit, and that whoever she was planning on naming as the defendant would have been the number one suspect? And how much money could we possibly be talking about here? She was too young to have been in a position to have lent out more than, at most, a couple thousand dollars, right? She would have had a hard time getting any lawyer to be interested in a sum as small as that, which means we're talking about small claims court. I just can't see this as a motive for a homicide.

I think it is likely that she was suffering from some mental problems which caused her to make some poor choices. Specifically, I think it most likely she was sadly raped and murdered by someone who recognized her for the vulnerable, perhaps gullible person she was. The really nasty people in this world are always looking for people who are easy to take advantage of, and I'm afraid Tammy, from every description I've read of her, fit that description to a T, because she was not rational the way the average person is. This doesn't make the crime one iota less horrible, mind you, but I do think that her probable mental impairment led to her death, mostly because it allowed her to trust someone who a more rational person would not have trusted and/or do something that a more rational person would not have done.

wiseguy182

04-19-2007, 12:05 AM

Corky Kneivel

04-19-2007, 02:21 PM

Cases like these are indicative, now that I am 15 years older and a bit more "worldlier" than the original time I viewed them, of the segments on Unsolved Mysteries that I feel are less mysterious than they are portrayed. Not saying that a sudden, and apparently 100% complete, disappearance of a gorgeous 18 year old aspiring actress isn't mysterious. Quite the contrary. I would contend that such an occurrence, along with the bizarre behavior exhibited by the person in question, are , indeed, very mysterious. I would also contend that I believe several cases profiled on UM contain "Maguffins"(© Alfred Hitchcock), showing re-creations of events, often mis-characterized and blown out of proportion, that more than likely had nothing to do with the actual mystery. This is one of those cases, in my opinion.

Let me put out the disclaimers:

THIS IS IN NO WAY MEANING TO DISRESPECT THE MEMORY OF TAMMY-LYNN, NOR HER GRIEVING FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ROCK SOLID PROOF FOR MY ASSUMPTIONS AND ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYONE ELSE'S CONCLUSIONS ON HER ACTUAL FATE HAVE AS MUCH CREDIBILITY, PERHAPS IN SOME CASES MORE, THAN MY OWN.

Okay, that being said, I think the questions surrounding the party, the events Tammy-Lynn had witnessed, the drug transactions and the money laundering, etc. are the "Maguffins" of this unsolved mystery. What happened or what didn't happen is very hard to determine because of the documented mental condition of Tammy-Lynn. I believe she had a very vivid, very intense, and ultimately very IMAGINED fear of people out to get her. Not eating from your own plate and becoming a recluse at age 18 are symptoms of some very strong paranoia. I don't think this was due to any real threat because a rational mind isn't afraid of drug dealers poisoning just their plate of food in their own household. If Tammy-Lynn's mind wasn't operating rationally, then how can we take her word for what occurred when no one can corroborate her assertions of wrongdoings? That Wingnut guy contends that she accused him, I took it as being very often, of doing things to harass her. So there is a precedent of her inventing nefarious scenarios where none existed. For me all of the documentable evidence and all of the testimony from people involved who have no history in any mental institutions are more credible than Tammy-Lynn's accounts of terror and criminal activity.

My contention that her fear wasn't real and stemmed from imagined events, or events that were devoid of any malice but in her paranoid mind became something nightmarish, does nothing to answer the question of what actually became of her. That, for some people, is unsatisfactory and those people need all things to wrap up neatly, involving every bit of evidence brought out by UM. Unfortunately that is the stuff of movies, not of real life. She may have met with wrong doing, either from her previous experiences with drug dealing money launderers or perhaps a random act of violence. Perhaps she wandered afraid and alone, but oddly disassociated from reality, and met with some predator who took advantage of that situation for some unmentionable fate. Maybe she lived as a Jane Doe in a hospital or assisted care facility somewhere, maybe she lives there now. I have no answers. I know that isn't sexy or catchy and I fear that is the reason people want to involve the more sexy and catchy aspects of her story into her disappearance. I just feel their assertions are wrong.

mozartpc27

04-19-2007, 03:52 PM

Good analysis, Corky Kneivel, and I like the use of the Maguffin. I think it is a very apt description of the kind of thing UM does quite often, as much as I love the show. Indeed, now I love it as much for seeing how they artificially construct a narrative, especially when it's a story where the actual facts of the case can be obtained and compared against the UM version, as for the stories themselves. Very meta.

suzannec4444

05-19-2007, 11:40 AM

Hi
Tammy did not have mental disorders and they released her from the mental home.there was a lead about a year ago someone threatened to kill.I think this person did.I am still trying to find out why she threatened to tell on this person and for what?I do know this person threatened to kill her.I will not name names.I do not have any money but If there are any psychics or free detectives to look into tammy that feel they might know what happened to tammy or anyone thinks they might know what happened to her please email me at
findtammylynnleppert@yahoo.com
suzannec4444@yahoo.com
I have a sister who came up missing on July 6th 1983 from Cocoa Beach Florida.her name is Tammy Lynn Leppert.here is her pictures if it will help ok?I have been looking for a long time for her.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../TLeppert1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...4/TLeppert.jpg

http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases.yuku.com/

I am also checking for her as an unidentified Jane Doe or skeletal remains found over the years.Please contact me if you know something.Please work with me.Please help me find her.I care very much of what became of her.I have been looking for her myself for a long time.I just want to know something.Is she alive or dead.I just want to know.

suzannec4444

05-31-2007, 10:04 AM

Hi
Please keep tammy in your prayers.

suzanne

kadrmas15

06-01-2007, 04:44 AM

Well Suzanne, Tammy and you and your family are in my prayers and everyone's here. We all hope she is found and hopefully alive but if not so your family can at least give her the proper burial. It is just so sad what happened. I was actually down in Cocoa Beach in January, I had forgot that Tammy was from there until I checked this, I hadnt watched the Um segment on her for several weeks before I went down there. I will have to look things up again to see where exactly in Cocoa Beach she disappeared from. IT really could have been anyone that is responsible for what happened as tons of people go through Cocoa Beach. I also do not think that Tammy had a mental disorder, at least not from what I have seen. No doubt she was afraid, but I think too many people assume that it was just paranoid dilusions or bi polar and I honestly think she was stressed out of her mind because she had a legimate fear because someone was threatening her, who that was is unclear. Clearly she was scared.

suzannec4444

07-06-2007, 10:52 AM

Hi
thankyou.Today is July 6th.She came up missing July 6th 1983.Please keep tammy in your prayers to find out what happened to her.It's been a long time.If someone knows something please let me know.Please.If you ever called in a lead to anywhere please email me again with it.I will look into it. Please help me find her.Please.

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

suzanne

kamy

07-06-2007, 11:07 AM

Suzanne, you are always in our prayers. Tammy's story is one of my favs that UM has profiled, it's always touched me.

God Bless You!

Xytras

07-08-2007, 04:04 PM

Good luck to you Suzanne!

suzannec4444

07-20-2007, 10:26 AM

Hi
Please keep Tammy in your prayers to find her.Thankyou that was sweet to say.I do wonder sometimes if I will ever find her and I do lose hope sometimes.It's been a long time.It's been too long.But I do hear of these cases that are solved 20,30 years later.

suzanne

CanadianUMFan

08-03-2007, 05:09 PM

I don't want to offend Tammy's sister or any other relatives who might see this and I am only going by what I saw on the UM segment. From what I saw on that segment, I believe that Tammy did have some kind of mental disorder. It appeared to me to be schizophrenia or some other kind of delusional disorder. A mentally healthy person will not ask someone that they consider to be their sibling (that Wing guy) to taste their food for them to make sure that it isn't poisoned. Also, it was mentioned that Tammy, who had been presumably very concerned with her appearance from an early age, was starting to worry less about her appearance which could also be a sign of some serious psychiatric disorder. She was only in the hospital for three days from what I can recall in the segment so they probably did not have enough information at that point to make a clear diagnosis but I would be shocked if she didn't have some kind of mental disorder going by what we saw on the UM segment.

Having said this, we still don't know what happened to Tammy and whether she was the victim of foul play or not. However, I am of the mind that if she was the victim of foul play that it was someone who took advantage of her deteriorating mental condition rather than someone involved in the mob or a money-laundering scheme or whatever other wild theories that are out there.

suzannec4444

08-15-2007, 12:19 PM

Hi
It was found out in the mental home she did not have a deteriorating mental condition.There was a lead about 2 years ago someone threatened to kill her before she came up missing.no matter what happened I am looking for as a unidentified Jane Doe found somewhere or skeletal remains found through out the years.I think this person may have killled her.If any one knows something please email me at

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases.yuku.com/

suzanne

suzannec4444

09-03-2007, 10:43 AM

Hi
Please keep tammy in your prayers for me to find her.Please don't forget about her.Please contact me if you know anything ok?

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

suzanne

FilmmakerEBW

09-15-2007, 01:31 PM

One article I read on Suzanne's board stated the following:

"...Tami attempted came in a flurry of calls she made that wednesday afternoon. Three times she left urgent messages for her aunt, Ginger Kolsch, at Kolsch's Cocoa Beach costume shop, Balloonatics. Kolsch was out of town, Tami said she was calling from a nearby location. "Tami was definately afraid of somebody," Kolsch says. "It was real, I'm convinced of that." Kolsch says the runaway scenario doesn't wash."

Read the entire article here: [/URL][url]http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases.yuku.com/topic/408?f=1 (http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases.yuku.com/topic/408?f=1)

I found this strange because it was the only place I've read this information before or since. Does anyone have any more information? Was it ever identified where she made these frantic phone calls from?

suzannec4444

09-27-2007, 08:28 AM

Hi
I personally feel she was calling from the cocoa Beach Exxon near the glass bank.Balloonatics was about two blocks from there.Please email me if any one knows anything.I am curious of who the mechanic at the cocoa Beach Exxon was in 1983.If someone finds out please email me ok?Also a nancy Kay Brown came up missing in June (she was staying at I believe the satelitte Motel in Cocoa Beach florida)in the same area Tammy was last seen in(one month before Tammy disappeared.Nancy Kay Brown was found murdered a few months later in Brevard county Florida.It is still an unsolved murder.I feel there may be a connection with them.If any one knows more on this please email me also.Please.

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

suzanne

mikem7715

09-27-2007, 04:24 PM

This has always been a fascinating case to me too. I dont want to sound offensive to her family,but what was up with all the paranoia and secrecy? Why not just confide in your family and go to the police. I am always surprised to see these case(there has been a bunch on UM) where the people are acting scared,or paranoid.Like the guy who was killed in Ca. in his trailer with his wife and his daughter and her friend went missing.He told his brother sometime before that "if anything happens to me,look at the police dept" or the lady that was constantly tormented and stalked,and eventually found dead,hogtied(ruled a suicide,if I remember correctly)She was always being secretive,and her friends and family always thought she knew more about her alleged stalker. MAYBE IT'S JUST ME BUT,if I was in trouble I would confide in someone,my close family or friends.I would want advice and support,and I would definately go to the police. In all the movies and tv shows the tormentors say "if you go to the police, we'll kill your family" or something like that.If those people go to the police and report it,then guess what,it brings attention to thos people and puts a spotlight on them making it more difficult to do something to you,and if something did happen to you,they would be the prime suspect. And if I had to leave and go away to protect my family,I would do it,but I would make sure they knew I was going away for that reason,and that I would contact them when its safe. I dont want to make it sound like Tammy brought this on herself,but I think if she had talked to her family,there may have been clues,and maybe there would be answers-I think it's a lesson to not keep everything hidden and secret in these times of need,but instead to trust in your family to help you through it.

suzannec4444

09-30-2007, 11:40 AM

kamy

10-01-2007, 01:26 PM

Hi

UNSOLVED MURDER OF NANCY KAY BROWN

May I please ask if any one knows more on her(Nancy Kay Brown).She came up missing in June 1983 one month before my sister came up missing and she was found murdered in 1984 in Canaveral Groves Florida in Brevard county.They both came up missing from the same area.from near the satelitte motel in Cocoa Beach Florida.She is on this website.

http://www.brevardsheriff.com/ciu/cold_cases.htm

suzanne

I don't recall her being on UM, but I could be mistaken. I've never known of a Satellite Motel in Cocoa Beach though; I've stayed in one several times that further north in Treasure Island though ????

suzannec4444

10-19-2007, 08:11 AM

Hi
Nancy Kay Brown was not unsolved mysteries.Please email me if anyone knows anything on this or tammy.

suzanne

Tap Dancer

10-19-2007, 01:55 PM

Suzanne, have you ever posted about your sister on the Crime Library message boards? They have a couple of forums there dedicated to missing adults here: Unsolved Missing/Abduction (http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=421) and When Someone You Love Goes Missing (http://boards.crimelibrary.com/forumdisplay.php?f=345)

suzannec4444

10-30-2007, 10:07 AM

Hi
Thankyou so much.I just did.Maybe it will help.

suzanne

Jediknight1823

11-06-2007, 04:48 PM

This has always been a fascinating case to me too. I dont want to sound offensive to her family,but what was up with all the paranoia and secrecy? Why not just confide in your family and go to the police.

Because what she saw could have had ties to the police and several important Florida citizens. Keep in mind that during Tammy's breakdown she mentioned money laundering. So that would probably be involved with drug trafficking, and for high amounts of money being laundered someone powerful had to know. She may not have been able to go to the police, because she didn't know who she could trust. If that is what she did see, she saw it being done by someone whom was powerful in all likelihood.

kamy

11-16-2007, 03:04 PM

I can't help but think that Tammy has some emotional/mental problems. One thing that I thought was odd was how she thought someone was trying to poison her; thinking her food is potentially fatal, she makes the Wing guy (who is like a brother) try it first. If she honestly thought this, and was in her right mind, would she make someone she loved try it and potentially die?
I can't help but think this........any thoughts?:confused:

Nick_at_nite

11-17-2007, 04:46 PM

An abortion gone wrong could explain her disappearance..........but her behavior seemed too incredibly bizzare to lay on that alone.

The more I think about it, the more I think this case has some eerie parallels to that of Rhonda Hinson.

It was mentioned that Tammy went to an out of town gathering with other actors/actresses/movie industry people, then came back changed......

I think she was either raped/sexually assaulted at that gathering, which could possibly explain some of her mood swings.......and then was kidnapped to prevent her from blowing the whistle. She could've also been threatened first...then kidnapped later.

....or

She discovered/witnessed/became aware of something shady, shady enough to put her life in danger. Subsequently she could've been threatened, either once or repeatedly......the threats causing psychological damage which would account for her changed mood. Later on, the person or persons behind this could've changed their mind and had her kidnapped.....or she could've simply dove off the deep end.

Sorry for the thread necromancy, but I'm new here.

Husker, I was looking for someone to say that. My gut instinct is that she was raped (probably by more than one person) at the party and they threatened her during it. It may not be a common reaction, but depending on the victim and the circumstances of the assault, some girls become so messed up afterwards.
A loved one was raped by a group of men as a teenager who used weapons and threats to subdue her. She was never the same after that. She became paranoid and afraid and never would tell anybody why. But used vague statements about it like Tammy did. She also got really weird about food, having to use the exact same plate and utensils over and over, as if she didn't trust her own family members.

If she was indeed pregnant and if it could've been from a rape, this would only make it worse.

It just seems like something happened personally to her rather than just knowing something about somebody.

Brutal sexual assaults, especially on a young person, can make them irrational and crazy.

As for what happened to her, she may have just gone off the deep end. She definitely wasn't in her right mind for whatever the reason was. She may have ended up wondering the streets forgetting who she was and/or wound up killed as a pretty young girl wandering the streets, obviously vulnerable and disoriented, would've made the perfect target.

suzannec4444

12-02-2007, 11:37 AM

Hi
the mental home found nothing wrong with you.It was found out many years later someone threatened to kill her before she came up missing.May I ask can you Please help me.I contacted the medical examiner in Brevard county Florida.I believe he said said the remains found with kimberely walker (she was found in January?1985 in Brevard County Florida)were not human.I believe he said it was a dog.I think there is a mistake.The BCSO has on thier website a unidentified female was found with her.Is there anyway you please tell me and find out more on these remains found with kimberely walker in 1985 and the other Jane Doe found in 1985 in palm Bay?(A headless victim)were any clothes,skull,jewlery found ect...on them?.I would very much like these unidentified Jane Does checked with my sister.there are no dental on my sister.I don't think they have DNA on these Jane Does.They told me they could not afford it.I told them about the place in Texas that is doing this for free.I have not heard anything back on any of this.I also saw a show last night on body of evidence with Dale Hinman that John Brennen Crutchly was a suspect in the case of the headless victim found in 1985 to in palm bay.I'm not sure if kimberely walkers skull was found.I think it was partial dental some how.I am not convinced there victims were John Brennen Crutchly's victims.If these cases are closed they need to be reopened.I know some one loves these unidentified Jane Does and want to find out what became of thier loved ones.Can you please tell me more on these unidentified victims or the circumstances around this.?Thankyou for reading this.If you know anything at all or can find out for me.Please email me at suzannec4444@yahoo.com

suzanne

RyDawg84

12-22-2007, 04:43 AM

Drakken

12-22-2007, 05:12 AM

This case smacks of paranoid schizophrenia. The poor girl was obviously in the download spiral and losing her grip with reality, and I am very surprised that her psychiatric visit shortly before her disappearance ended without a diagnostic, temporary internment or antipsychotic treatment. Perhaps she needed further appointments to have a more solid diagnostic and that wasn't included in the segment. Thus, I wouldn't trust her wild accusations without proof, just like I wouldn't believe her if she had said that the CIA was listening in her dreams.

Perhaps that, although genuinely scared, she couldn't see the difference anymore between the Scarface movieset, which included violence, murder, money-laundering and lecherous guys and women in its script and on the set, with the real thing. And thus, the anxiety traumatized her enough that it remained in her mind and influenced her future delusions. I am not blaming her, I believe she was very ill and she needed mental help and hospitalization.

However, call me skeptical, but I do not trust her "friend"'s account one bit. He quarreled with that obviously vulnerable hottie, in his car, and just let that babe go out of his car with nothing, not even shoes, and disappear into thin air? That's ludicrous, and the place where he says that she told him "I love you" feels a little creepy. :crazy:

There would have to be an incredible coincidence that this woman, in plain middle of a delusional behavior, would end up meeting her killer at the immediate spot or within minutes she got out of that car, with no witnesses around, in plain daylight and disappear like that without a trace. Her striking looks and her lack of shoes and more proper clothes would have drawn easily the attention from witnesses and made it easier for them to remember her. If she killed herself, even accidently, they would have found her body by now. While the chance of such an encounter is theorically possible (we cannot exclude random occurences, after all it did happen to Angela Hammond), it seems improbable, even in a place such as Miami, if only because it was in broad daylight and Cocoa Beach isn't exactly empty.

My take is that the friend guy is hiding something and the police knows it, but cannot prove anything. They cannot even prove there has even been a crime. However, the guy is an obvious suspect. The friend had a motive (obviously to score with that available babe, or maybe he genuinely had feelings for her, which is a possibility especially if he is a "nice guy", if you get what I mean), the control of the scene (she was in his car), the opportunity (the woman was obviously in a vulnerable state), and the proximity (he had control over the victim and the crime scene).

My take is that they indeed quarreled somewhere, perhaps after he tried his move on her to exploit her vulnerability. She most probably said no, and he couldn't take to be refused by a crazed b****, however hot-looking, vulnerable and delusional she may have been, and attacks her in a fit of rage, killing her accidentally or not. He then gets rid of the victim in the sea, cleans out the evidence, and invents that dubious story of letting her go away and evaporate without clothes or shoes in a delusional fit, and voilà! Since the body was never found and no witness has come forward, at least publicly, no crime scene was identified and used for forensics.

wiseguy182

12-22-2007, 06:29 AM

However, call me skeptical, but I do not trust her "friend"'s account one bit. He quarreled with that obviously vulnerable hottie, in his car, and just let that babe go out of his car with nothing, not even shoes, and disappear into thin air? That's ludicrous, and the place where he says that she told him "I love you" feels a little creepy. :crazy:

She was acting pretty irrational at this point, which is probably why he let her out of the car. He probably feared she was going to attack him, or try to steer the car from the passenger side, or something of that nature. She almost beat up Wing as she thought he locked her outside the house.

But on the other hand, you have a very valid point. When someone is as vulernable as Tammi was, ditching her probably wasn't the best option, regardless of whether she wanted out of the car or not. Plus, it does seem extremely odd that she disappeared in a busy town in the middle of the day. Perhaps he knew about Tammi's condition and figured the authorities would look elsewhere in their search.

suzannec4444

12-22-2007, 06:34 PM

Hi
Merry christmas Tammy.Another year with out you.Where are you?Please keep Tammy in your prayers to find her.If you know anything at all about what happened to her please email me at suzannec4444@yahoo.com
suzanne

suzannec4444

12-31-2007, 05:20 PM

Hi

The reading on Tammy by Brians Predictions is here.I waited 9 months to get this reading.I am very surprised.Where would a place like this be?He is the only psychic that has ever told me she was alive.What do you all think?

I am asking if any one finds a person or knows someone like this to please email me at

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

no one is telling me anything.I would like to know.

http://www.briansdreams.com/MISSING/publicr/585.htm

suzanne

kamy

01-01-2008, 02:13 PM

While I have read so much on Brian now to not believe in his abilities anymore, I've waited and waited to see what he would say about Tammy and I'm disappointed that is all he got! We've waited since February or March! C'mon now! If you do want to see if you can track down anything he says, I would start by looking for slot machine manufacturers/factories in Las Vegas and perhaps contacting them and maybe sending a missing poster or something. Tammy could have had a nervous breakdown and honestly may have no memory of her previous life. It may freak her out to see herself on a poster (if indeed this were true)----do we have any members in the Vegas area that could offer to help?
I'm in Dallas, TX but I'll do some internet searches.

I'm still praying Suzanne, and I hope that by some bizarre chance he speaks the truth and that somehow Tammy can be found.

Gob Bless

Hi

The reading on Tammy by Brians Predictions is here.I waited 9 months to get this reading.I am very surprised.Where would a place like this be?He is the only psychic that has ever told me she was alive.What do you all think?

I am asking if any one finds a person or knows someone like this to please email me at

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

no one is telling me anything.I would like to know.

http://www.briansdreams.com/MISSING/publicr/585.htm

suzanne

GaryJ06

01-02-2008, 01:35 PM

Hey all,
I'm not from LV, but ever since I joined this forum, I cannot seem to get this case off my mind. Let me begin this however with a disclaimer:

I AM NOT INTENDING TO PROVIDE FALSE HOPE NOR AM I SAYING THAT I AM RIGHT
-Now, as there aren't really too many things to go on with this case, I feel that it is important to explore all possible avenues. There are the ones that have been previously discussed (i.e. death, jane doe, runaway etc.) I personally don't think that she did run away, and if she is in fact still alive somewhere, she for sure left FL unwillingly.
I read Suzanne's board once over and was intrigued by her theory on whether she may have entered the witness protection program. This may have happened though it is unlikely. The reasons for this are as follows:

1. The paranoia could very well have been a real fear of some very dangerous people. If Suzanne says that the mental hospital records state that there was no condition, then she may have just been buckling under the constant pressure of looking over her shoulder, and the burden of carrying a terrible secret of some kind. She may not have even felt safe at home, knowing perhaps that the family may not have been able to help her, or that by telling them they could very well possibly be in danger as well. I want to know what happened at this mysterious party, because I am convinced that was the time where everything started snowballing. I don't know what she saw, but there could have been some influential people (on both sides of the law) at the party as she was now beginning to associate with those in the film industry, of whom many have power and influence.

2. Enter the paranoia upon returning. Now, I'm not saying that she didn't have anything wrong mentally, but Suzanne says that she didn't. To the outside oberserver, (like me) it does at first look like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia. However, those who are in constant fear for thier lives can also exude irrational behavior, not in common with how they would normally act. It's almost like their brain would be so consumed with survival that other activities would go by the wayside.

3. Lets now go back to the disappearance and the events leading up to it. After she saw whatever it was that she saw, we know from the reinactment that she essentially became an 18 y/o recluse. Then, one day after she was feeling much better after the hospital stay, she told her mother she was going out. This is where my (albeit far reaching) WPP thory comes in. Let's say that instead of telling a family member (b/c they would then be in danger themselves) she went to an authority figure (police, feds etc). (I would actually lean more towards her eventually being into contact w/feds b/c they would be the ones able to hide her in another state.) She does this after receiving the phone calls. She then is told to lay low until she is contacted again, which could explain being a hermit.

4. The day she disappeared, according tho the segment, her mother was on the phone, and she left, finally saying "Love you." Now, who would say this in such a manner (it could also have been UM's spin on this) unless they knew that they wouldn't return. And another thing is her "friend." Maybe he was a suspect at first b/c he WAS lying. Maybe lying about dropping her off, maybe he took her to her contact or whatever instead.

5. The only reason that I'm bringing any of this up is because of the psychic Brian guy, it could have happened, but it all depends on what she was a witness to. It could explain the being in Vegas thing, the new name, and the fact that she may not want to be found. Now after a little searching, I did find that there was some slot machine manufacturers in LV (Aruze Gaming, Bally Tech., and WMS Gaming) 4713 could be some sort of address , but I dont know.

6. I did this to just explore some new avenue that hadn't really been followed up on. I just wish we had some sort of new info that wasn't an internet posting by a "psychic" who may not be credible. Just supposing for a moment that he is, this could all fit.....Just a thought

suzannec4444

01-03-2008, 03:52 PM

Hi
Thankyou and thankyou Kamy.Yes if anyone can help that knows of a factory that sells slot machines in Las Vegas Nevada?with a shop 9 please please email me at

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

suzanne

GaryJ06

01-03-2008, 03:59 PM

Yes if anyone can help that knows of a factory that sells slot machines in Las Vegas Nevadasuzanne

See reply above (called those three, nobody would gimme any info, thought i was a nut or something)..sorry Suzanne...i'll keep trying

kamy

01-03-2008, 04:00 PM

I googled the three as well, and didn't find an addresss with 4713 in it, but that doesn't mean anything. I'll keep looking...........

Gary, not sure what you said when you called, but maybe inquiring about whether they have any factories in Las Vegas, and get their phone #/address? We can always mail a flyer or something to them if we can get addresses. The addresses I found seemed to be for the corporate aspect of things, certainly not the factory angle.

GaryJ06

01-03-2008, 04:10 PM

ahhh...duh, I'll try again :crazy:

kamy

01-03-2008, 04:14 PM

Haha, no biggie. I'm assuming he means a factory, but I guess she could be in some sort of administrative or clerical position. I can't help but want to see if his clues pan out, even though you can goggle him and read all about his "scams" and how he goes back and doctors past readings to make them coincide with what the media and police reports say.

I can't help but hope he is legit for this very reason: Tammy's case has always been one of my favs and I really wanna know what happened to her!!!!

I'll keep looking too, Gary!

kamy

01-03-2008, 04:56 PM

I read the article posted near the beginning of this thread and noticed something I hadn't before. Here is a snippet of the article:

Tami cried as hard as I've seen anyone cry
before" Adams says.He dropped her off in front of her house around 11 that night . They made pland to go back to church
wednsday afternoon."And then." Adams says "She looked at me and said. I just want you to know that I may have to go away for
a while. But I also want you to know that I love you."Then they hugged each other, and held the embrace for as long as it took.
Rick Adams never got a chance to ask her what she meant. He called late the next morning to reconfirm their date.
She was already gone.

What the heck does that mean? Could she have orchestrated her own disappearance to escape who ever was scaring her?
I never really examined this angle before, until I read that line.

Any thoughts?

Also, I'm going to try and call the Exxon near the Cocoa Beach Bank and find out who the mechanic was in 1983. Surely they would be able to look back right? Or is that a privacy thing? Suzanne mentions wanting to know who he was in an earlier post.

GaryJ06

01-04-2008, 08:22 AM

oooh...good idea kamy...the only roadblocks i could see with the exxon is that they may not want to tell you due to privacy, or that there could have been some sort of change in ownership, and they might not have the records anymore. I dont know if all exxon franchises are privately owned or not.

kamy

01-04-2008, 02:43 PM

Suzanne, do you know the location of the Exxon and the bank? I haven't had much luck finding the "Glass Bank". Also, what is your interest in the mechanic? I'll see what I can find out.

If you see in the post I posted above, I caught the hint in the newspaper article that Tammy may have run away--this could work with what the psychic said (Darn it though, I don't want to give him credence!).

suzannec4444

01-08-2008, 02:39 PM

Hi
Thankyou.There was a possible lead she may have went of with the mechanic at the Cocoa Beach Exxon.If anyone knows about tammy dead or alive please email me at suzannec4444@yahoo.com Please.

suzanne

GaryJ06

01-08-2008, 03:43 PM

1st off...thanks Kamy for the tip to this post :) OK now onto business...a lot of us are trying to find out as much as we can Suzanne, so did you know of a witness to this man leaving with her, or the two being sighted together???

panini

01-22-2008, 01:32 PM

After reading into all the info given. I feel that Tammy disappeared of her own free will.

I think the person she was afraid of was not any of her friends or aquaintences, but someone noone would think of. Her own mother.

I think Mr. Roberts helped her by giving her money to leave. I think there was too much pressure and then if she was in fact pregnant, that could ruin her chances for the California deal.

I can see someone in her position up and leaving. She had friends that said she could stay with them outside of Florida.

This of course is just my opinion on what has been provided.

Todd Mueller

01-22-2008, 02:09 PM

Hi, panini!

Welcome to the UM forum. It's great to have you here!

:)

kamy

01-23-2008, 12:45 PM

suzannec4444

01-24-2008, 04:42 PM

Tap Dancer

01-24-2008, 07:05 PM

I googled the three as well, and didn't find an addresss with 4713 in it, but that doesn't mean anything. I'll keep looking...........

Maybe 4713 is part of a phone number? :confused:

suzannec4444

01-24-2008, 07:14 PM

Hi
I just wanted to say I found out this Jane Doe found in 1987 in Ohio is not Tammy through DNA comparison.This Unidentified Jane Doe died of a cocaine over dose and was set on fire.I was really kind of surprised a little bit this wasn't Tammy.I feel she was one of my closest possible matches.It took me almost a year to find out.I pray they find out who she is.I know some one loved her and wants to know what happened to her.If something bad happened to Tammy she did not deserve to die this way and I will always continue to try and find her.I just don't know where to look any more.I am getting no where very slowly.Tammy if you are out there or someone knows what happened to her please tell the police or me you are ok or what happened so you are not listed as a missing person any more and other people and I do not have to look for you like this any more.Please.I do care or I would not be looking for you like this.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/335ufoh.html

suzannec4444@yahoo.com

suzanne

unsolvedmysteriesfan

02-03-2008, 05:45 PM

Probably not helpful, but I searched. Remmeber, if she can go by Tara, she can change other names and information. If she was a beauty star, she could be ten years younger. I'm doubtful she is alive based on your mother's lawsuit , but...you never know.

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TARA LYNN LEPPERT 32
LAS VEGAS, NV

Don't think so. She has a Myspace page and she's way too young .

RELATIVES:
ANTHONY JAMES LEPPERT

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TARA LESLIE LEPPERT 42
LAUDERHILL, FL

LAS VEGAS, NV
FORT WAYNE, IN
BLOOMINGTON, IN
GREENFIELD, IN
SAINT PETERSBURG, FL
LAUDER HILL, FL
FT WAYNE, IN

RELATIVES:
STEPHEN W LEPPERT
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TARA LEPPERT 53

BLOOMINGTON, IN
BEDFORD, IN

RELATIVES:
STEPHEN LEPPERT

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TARA LEPPERT 43
CROSSROADS, FL

RELATIVES:
JOSEPH LEPPERT

unsolvedmysteriesfan

02-03-2008, 06:03 PM

Info

unsolvedmysteriesfan

02-03-2008, 06:08 PM

Suzanne,

Doubt you have the money, but you should go, or send a PI to go, to this Lot 9 store. For all you know she works there, or someone knows her there, and that's why it says Stop by. Maybe the extra 9 in there, at the end, is when you should stop by. You could ask about her there. "Have you seen Tara" and hold up an age progressed or old photo of her. "Look familiar?"

I read up on it and it says Lot 9 is a clothing store. "There are women's and men's clothes with both large brands like Theory and small indie brands from LA, I really liked the mix." - http://www.yelp.com/biz/lot-9-las-vegas

Either that, or ask Brian to do another dream about this Tara Leppert in Las Vegas again, maybe he will do it again. You need some more info. I'm not saying he's right or anything, but, you might as well try .

unsolvedmysteriesfan

02-03-2008, 06:16 PM

Someone also posted this on the WebSleuths board:

J P Slot Emporium
3720 W Tropicana Ave # 8
Las Vegas, NV 89103

(702) 736-4747

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Lot 9
4480 Paradise Road
Las Vegas, NV

You really should go there and see if she really is working there. If she is magically alive and working there like Brian's dream says, she has a lot of apologies to you for 'not wanting to be found'. - "I think that Tammy may not want to be found," says Brian.

unsolvedmysteriesfan

02-03-2008, 06:22 PM

There is a 99 Nine Cents & Smoke Shop, in Las Vegas, NV, but I think that's really stretching Brian's dream.

Does he go back and do dreams again, to maybe glean some more info?

suzannec4444

02-03-2008, 09:38 PM

Hi
Thankyou.You are very nice.I think he just said Tara.I don't know if he meant her last name would be Leppert or not.I tried to email him to please do another reading.I am very poor.I have not heard back from him.

suzanne

unsolvedmysteriesfan

02-03-2008, 09:42 PM

Did he charge money for that reading?

suzannec4444

02-03-2008, 10:08 PM

Hi
No,He did not charge me.It took him 9 months to do it.But I am Thankful he did.I really wish I knew if this Tara was Tammy or what she looks like or her date of birth ect...to see if I think it is Tammy.

suzanne

suzannec4444

02-05-2008, 09:53 AM

Somebody cares if you're happy today,
If your heart is cheerful and light.
Somebody cares if you're feeling good
And everything's going just right.
And somebody hopes that this
message will show,
In a warm little heart-to-heart way..
You're thought of, remembered,
and happily wished
An especially wonderful day!
And That Person Is Me!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TAMMY

suzanne

kamy

02-05-2008, 12:02 PM

Mystery Lover

02-06-2008, 04:15 PM

WoW! Great investigating! I wonder though why Tammy would keep her middle and last name if this is indeed her. But it is definetely worth checking into. It seems that it is very possible that she is alive. I don't give Brian much creedance, but it's some good clues. And yes, he normally will go over the info again and see if he can get anything else, but more than likely, it'll be another wait.

Ok so I just looked this Tara Lynn Lepert up on MySpace and I really don't think its Tammy.

My assumption is that Leppert is Tara's married last name. And that this whole thing with her having the same middle name as Tammy is just a coincidince. I've looked at this lady's pics and I don't think it resmebles her at all.

CanadianUMFan

03-10-2008, 03:27 AM

While I have read so much on Brian now to not believe in his abilities anymore, I've waited and waited to see what he would say about Tammy and I'm disappointed that is all he got! We've waited since February or March! C'mon now! If you do want to see if you can track down anything he says, I would start by looking for slot machine manufacturers/factories in Las Vegas and perhaps contacting them and maybe sending a missing poster or something. Tammy could have had a nervous breakdown and honestly may have no memory of her previous life. It may freak her out to see herself on a poster (if indeed this were true)----do we have any members in the Vegas area that could offer to help?
I'm in Dallas, TX but I'll do some internet searches.

I'm still praying Suzanne, and I hope that by some bizarre chance he speaks the truth and that somehow Tammy can be found.

Gob Bless

I hate how psychics try to take advantage of people in a vulnerable state. :(

kamy

03-10-2008, 09:43 AM

I'm leaning towards the fact that Tammy may indeed be alive. Not because of what Brian Ladd said, but also because I read some articles where Tammy was telling her friend that she won't be seeing him for a long time and that she loved them. This to me, sounds like someone going into hiding for whatever reason. I hope that someday she is found safe.

suzannec4444

03-14-2008, 09:39 AM

Hi
Thankyou.Please keep her in your prayers to find her dead or alive.If anyone knows of anything I have posted here or please keep me posted on any new bones or skeletal remains found that could be tammy please email me at

suzannec4444@yahoo.com
or
findtammylynnleppert@yahoo.com

panini

03-18-2008, 09:30 AM

Welcome! :wave:

Who is Mr. Roberts? You seem to know very much about this case--why do you feel so strongly that Tammy feared her own mother? And left on her own accord?

I only know the information that I have read in many articles.

Maybe Tami didn't want to be in the business anymore, and was only doing it for her mother and what she wanted. The pressure of the business can be stressful. It is not known if Tami was pregnant, only speculation from what I can gather, but if she was, I feel it would have been a disappointment to her mother and Tami wouldn't have wanted to do that. Tami, in her statements to certain people gave indication that she was going away.

In one article I read that Tami went to talk to the cops and I feel that is why they aren't "actively" searching for her. She mostlikely confided in the officer to tell him of her plans.

What does concern me is that Tami's father isn't or hasn't been looking for her. Was he not a part of her life?

panini

03-18-2008, 09:32 AM

Hi, panini!

Welcome to the UM forum. It's great to have you here!

:)

Thank you, Sorry for the late reply.

panini

03-18-2008, 09:53 AM

Hi
Where did you hear she had friends that could stay with her outside of Florida.where?I personally checked she never made it to these locations or apparantly ever talked to them again.why wouldn't she had talked to them or any one again?Mr Roberts is the one she fought with and he let her off near the glass bank in Cocoa Beach Florida.Mr Roberts did give her money.I do not think she was afraid of him.But he did have an argument with her too.Has he been known for violence before or after?Anything could have happened.She didn't fear her own mother.They fought sometimes but not bad enough to leave.She would not have left EVERYONE.She may have left.But not for this long.She would have contacted some one by now.I'm just saying if she did leave some where along the line she may have been killed or killed hitchhiking the day she came up missing.There were no drugs in her system at the mental home and they did not say she has a mental disorder.If I may please say again.There was a lead a few years ago someone threatened to kill tammy right before she came up missing and I feel this person may have killed her and she was very afraid of this person(persons).The fear was real.If she is alive she needs to tell the police she is ok and not be listed as a missing person any more so caring people are not looking for her as a unidentified homicide victim any more.

If anyone knows anything please email me at suzannec4444@yahoo.com

suzanne

I read about the friend's offers to stay with them in articles. Maybe she did go there and they did not reveal that she did at her request.

In my opinion, it is very possible that Tami's fear was an act leading up to her disappearance that she staged to escape the life she didn't want anymore. Remember she was an actress also. She could have displayed this behavior as a way of convincing everyone around her that something was wrong, she showed the "real fear" that is possibly what she wanted people to believe.

Her trip to the mental hospital can attest to that. They observed her for three days and found nothing wrong with her mentally or physically, no drugs in her system, either.

Yes, Suzanne it is possible that the day she disappeared she could have become a victim of accident or foul play. I do agree with that, anything is possible.

Did her mother ever submit DNA for comparison , if she is to be found deceased? Has any other siblings submitted any DNA ?

What about Tammy's dental records? I would think that her records would have been turned over to the investigating agency as another form of comparison.

Suzanne, I am sorry about this whole situation. I can't imagine having a missing relative. I commend you for your courage and strength in this.

Are you alone in this search or are there other siblings helping you to find Tami?

suzannec4444

03-18-2008, 05:36 PM

Hi

Tammy was afraid of someone who threatened to kill her belore she came up missing.The fear was real.There is confusion over her dental I am trying to clear up now.there are no dental charts or xrays on tammy's teeth.My DNA is suppose to be in CODIS to check with possible matches.I am making sure now that they are actually checking.I really pray they are.

suzanne

friend

05-05-2008, 01:48 PM

Suzanne has any of your other family members given there DNA yet. I know Tammy has another sister and brother even thought they are 1/2 there DNA will still help. As i was told the more the better the match. I went to school with Tammy but I do not remember you. Did you not live with them?

Friend

LiveByTheSea

05-06-2008, 01:55 AM

So I guess Tammy hasn't been found yet? I doubt she's still alive today. hmm, maybe she is but with a new identity.

friend

05-06-2008, 06:52 AM

ididn'tdoit

05-06-2008, 09:14 AM

I think she has changed her name and moved on. I think she just wanted a break for acting and modeling and just does not know how to come back. Maybe thinking she would get in trouble or something.
Friend

Well, her mom seemed very concerned and seemed to love her and miss her very much so I don't think that was the reason. If she wanted to disappear she would have at least called her mother and told her she was alright. The only reason that I see why she would change her identity is if she's in the Witness Protection Program, because of the things she saw "that she wasn't supposed to see". But sadly I think foul play was involved here :(

friend

05-06-2008, 09:41 AM

suzannec4444

05-06-2008, 11:35 AM

Hi
I was not brought up the whole time with tammy.People know that and so does the family.I just met the other sister.I talked to her daughter.I had met people in the family many years ago.I told the police there is other DNA from them and I did suggest it to them.Because I have heard the more DNA on file is better too.I agree.I heard she was pregnant.the police might have that in thier file.I agree She might be in hiding.Why do you think she was hiding.But I have always thought and looked for her not alive.

suzanne

friend

05-06-2008, 11:55 AM

Have you ever met Tammy personally? I sware I never heard her mention you the whole time I knew her. I have only meet the one sister Debbie and Brother Ricky.I know Tammy was under allot of stress and may of have been asked to do things she did not want to do. I know her sister ran away from home when she was young too. Maybe there was allot going on that you would never know and will never be able to find out.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-06-2008, 12:22 PM

Hi
No.We were seperated as babies everyone already knows this and so does the family.I have found out alot already in 13 years from the family members.I just met debbie and I met little brother rick 13 years ago.The whole family knows us.

suzanne

friend

05-06-2008, 12:48 PM

I seen on her where you say Tammy had no dental records. I went to the same dentist on Merritt Island as Tammy. Did they ever get those records?
Friend

Mystery Lover

05-06-2008, 01:43 PM

I know that Tammy called her older sister 3 mon before she disappeared and asked if she could move in with her but not to let her mom know. She also called her sister 2 weeks after she disappeared and talked to her sisters husband. Tammys older sister says that she was not preg. when she disappeared and she was under allot of stress. She believes that she has been hiding.

Friend

So Suzanne did you know that Tammy had contacted a few people after she disappeared?

So if that is true, then I would think that Tammy would be alive today. She obviously just ran away then and is out there somewhere. Unless for some unfortunate reasons, she died some other way.

suzannec4444

05-06-2008, 03:16 PM

Hi
The police have said there is no dental on tammy.The dentist in merritt Island was when she was little and he said he had no records.Do you know the dentist name?white?or someone else?Do you know what her dental were.No.I did not know she contacted some one a few weeks after she came up missing.But still apparantly no one has heard from her after that.I do think she would have contacted some one.but maybe you are right she is in hiding.I don't think any one at all would be mad at her if she came back.

suzanne

friend

05-06-2008, 03:49 PM

I do not remember the doc name but it was beside the movie theater down the main road that goes though Merritt Island. I remenber her going as a teen. With dental records they go by the roots of the teeth even as you get older the roots basicly stay the same.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-06-2008, 03:55 PM

Hi
Curious,Did that dental office burn down or have a fire?Maybe you should call the police about this.Maybe it's dental they do not know about yet.

suzanne

friend

05-06-2008, 04:07 PM

yes i have aleady talked to them a few weeks back about it.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-06-2008, 04:14 PM

Hi
Ok,What did they say?What were her dental?Did she ever have cosmetic work done on her?No one seems to know what her dental were.

suzanne

friend

05-06-2008, 04:17 PM

They said that they would check into it.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-06-2008, 04:18 PM

Hi
That's good maybe there is really dental on her.

suzanne

Mystery Lover

05-07-2008, 08:15 AM

She also called her sister 2 weeks after she disappeared and talked to her sisters husband.

Which sister was this?

And Suzanne do you talk to Tammys other sisters? Have you asked her about this new revelation that you found out?

I wonder if her or her husband can confirm that Tammy contacted them after she disappeared.

And if so... why is this the first time we've heard of it? Shouldn't the police have known this? Shouldn't the brother in law have contacted the police or Tammys Mom to let someone know that he talked to her?

friend

05-07-2008, 08:21 AM

The older sisiter was debra. When Tammy called for Debra her and her husband were going through a seperation and she though he was lying to her. He asked him why did he not give him her phone number. The police do know about this now and there was another person that seen her after she went missing. Also I believe someone called the police and told them Tammy was alive and well and would contact her family when the time was right
Friend

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 08:23 AM

hi
Yes,We have talked.Yes I have asked about it.I just told the police about this also.It should be looked into.This would show me she did not get killed the day she came up missing.But she was not heard from again after that or not long after that.I do not know if the police knew about it or not.I did not.Maybe it should have been called in to the police.I really hope it's true she would be contacted and she is not dead out there some where.Our mother was contacted in 1984,1985 and told the same thing that tammy would contact her when the time was right.The call never came.I do pray this call comes.

suzanne

Mystery Lover

05-07-2008, 09:09 AM

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 09:14 AM

Hi
It's in a newpaper article she states she had gotten a call since tammy dissappeared saying that.

suzanne

Mystery Lover

05-07-2008, 09:22 AM

Hi
It's in a newpaper article she states she had gotten a call since tammy dissappered saying that.

suzanne

I've been following this case for a while since it aired on Unsolved. But I can't remember a few details...

Is Tammy's Mom still alive?

Is there a webiste dedicated to Tammy?

Did anything come out of BriansDreams dream about Tammy? Any new leads or anything since his reading came out?

Learning the new details about her contacting someone makes it more real that she could be alive.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 09:40 AM

Hi
Thankyou,no she is not alive.There is a board dedicated to her.

http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases.yuku.com/

I am sorry if it's sounds crazy to any one but I told the police I really thought this Tara in Brians predictions should be checked.No one has told me they have looked.They probably just thought it was crazy to look at a psychic.But he is the only psychic that has ever told me she was alive.I am trying to get an age progression.More like a picture done now.

suzanne

friend

05-07-2008, 09:52 AM

Didn't Debra go onto the Jenny Jones show. I remember her going on the show around 2001. A pscyic told her Tammy was still alive and living far North of Florida and that she did not want to be found. Brians Dreams said same thing that she did not want to be found either.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 09:56 AM

Hi
I am sorry I do not want to offend any one.But that's wrong.she at least needs to tell the police she is ok and not want to be found so she is not listed as a missing persons any more and people are not looking for her as a unidentified Jane Doe and a homicide victim somewhere any more.I do not think any one at all would be mad at her if she came back.People cared for her.

suzanne

Mystery Lover

05-07-2008, 10:27 AM

I think some may just have so much guilt about leaving and not contacting anyone that they find it hard to do.

I wouldn't know but that's what I've heard.

I was watching Missing Persons a few weeks ago and there was an episode where a college age girl and her Mom got into a fight over something and the girl stormed out of her Moms house and disappeared.

I think it was like 7 or 9 years later, the girl was found living many states away. Happy and alive and not hurt.

She told the police that she ran away because of the fight and that over time she just felt like she couldn't return. That too much time had past.

The police said that she was able to not be found because she never opened up any credit cards, she paid cash for everything and never put her personal info out there and that's how she was able to stay hidden for so long.

Not sure what happened after she was found. But it showed that some missing people are out there and just don't want to be found.

Personally I think its rude and mean to have family and friends worried and thinking the worst scenario when the person is alive.

Hopefully if Tammy is alive and finds herself on the internet, she'll realize how many people care about her and that she should at least contact one person to say that she's ok. Making people wonder forever is heartbreaking for those people.

This may not help much... but have you ever searched MySpace for her? Looking at people around her age group in the area that BriansDreams said that she would be?

friend

05-07-2008, 10:28 AM

Have you ever talked to Rick Adams about Tammys disapearance? I use to hang around him and Tammy. Also have you seen some of the writing about tammy on the net that Tim Rue has written from what I understand he claims th have seen her after she disappeared and know more about tammys case then he will say. I never personally met Tim Rue do you know exacly how he fits into this pic.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 10:42 AM

hi

We did talk to rick Adams about tammy.He was very helpful.We emailed Tim R a long time ago.It didn't sound stable to me.I am still wondering what he had to do with tammy or any thing at all really.Honestly it was really all kind of strange.Where and when did he say he saw her.do you have a link to this?I know he use to.I don't have it now.

suzanne

friend

05-07-2008, 10:48 AM

go to yahoo under archives look for tim rue 3 seas. So who is he to the family exactly?
Friend

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 10:51 AM

Hi
He said he was a friend of tammy's.I have no idea where he fit into the picture.

suzanne

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 10:59 AM

Hi
I'm sorry I could not find it.Did he talk about tammy?

suzanne

friend

05-07-2008, 11:00 AM

Let me tell you a personal story about my hubby.
My husband has a sister that has bipolar. When he was 19 he was renting a room from his dad. It was a boarding house. His dad moved his siter into the house and his sister moved in her boyfriend, They stayed up all night parting like a bunch of animals. My hubby got into a fight with his parents about his sister and told his parents either they get her out or he was gone. Well they would not put her out. My hubby left and went 10 years without ever talking to his parents. No one knew where he was and how to find him. One day he was depressed when he read a newspaper and saw that his grandfather had passed away. He then called his parents . They are now very close but he still get upset and could do the same thing again because his parents favor his sister on everything, always doing for her. This is just food for thought.

Friend

friend

05-07-2008, 11:05 AM

Hi
I'm sorry I could not find it.Did he talk about tammy?

suzanne
A missing person case, the police (legal system) caught between a rock andhard place, and a girl I cared a great deal about. On a scale of 1 to 10of those I cared about, there were a few hitting 7, but this girl, she wasoff the scale. Perhaps it was due the difficulty of the real conditions inwhich she was growing up, but being in the spotlight of acting andmodeling where so much is hidden from the public. Her mother and agentwas years later spotlighted by Life magazine and ABC's "20/20" as one ofAmerica's most successful child-modeling agents, but I know, didn't livethe expected lifestyle one would think.This idea of fame and fortune that is preceived by the general publicregarding celebrity status, expecially of those in the entertainmentindustry, can often be an illusion.There was a celebrity I grew up with, one many of us grew up with as apart of the family. The kind of celebrity even the legends can bereluctant to work with, due the ease of being upstaged by this type ofcelebrity. Only here this celebrity was a real part of the family, notimmediate family but not distant either. I was isolated from all theillusions of fame and fortune, but instead heard a bit of real lifedifficulties here and there over all the years.The missing person case, well there is alot more to it than I'll mentionhere but there is something needing to be said. A year or so before theexplosion of her disappearance, a trip was planned to go out toCaliforina, Hollywood. This talent agent, her daughter, and a group ofkids and young adults went to try and make some headway in the business.This talent agent was concerned about various things, one of which was astrike had begun in the industry and in this moment I gave her the phonenumber of my relative working in that industry.While they where gone, I had been given a key to the office and what wasalso something of a temporary home for this agent and her daughter. Whilethey where gone, I took it on myself to orgainize what seemd to be animpossible mountain of paperwork. Sorting and placing files and otherthings in a workable order. During the previous difficulties and moves,much had become quite a mess and I really wanted to see things get betterfor both of them.When they had returned from Califorina, I heard enough to know it wasdifficult out there. I'd asked this Agent if she'd used the number I'dgiven her but she responded that she had forgotten about it. Today Iwonder, because I been receiving mysterious phone calls from the day thisgirl vanished, near fifteen years ago. I understood she was spending theFourth of July under 72-hour psychological observation. Two days later shevanished.Perhaps if I'd only known sooner what I was suffering from, but when Iwas hit by PTSD the first time, it was never recognized and therefornever properly addressed.I cannot help but see that maybe there is that part of the Amigacommunity and the industry in general suffering from an explosion thathappened 22 years ago. There was another man who died from a heart attackin his official help efforts to get to the 1996 Olympic Park explosion.How many more before the problem is corrected? And where does correctionstart? The concepts are there, on my web pages, that can help assist thiscorrection to quickly evolve.That empty chair, marked reserve at the AAi meeting, as far as I'mconcerned is for the spectrum of what should have been and can stillevolve.There is a brick marked "3 S.E.A.S" in the Olympic Park that I see as thecounterpoint to the explosion that happened 22 years ago in the computerindustry. It stands for what everyone knows, regardless of any proof orlack of.Originally "3 S.E.A.S" stood for "Success Education Arts'" and the logodesign was such that the artwork made up a big "Q" where the last "s" wasthe toung of the "Q" and this stood for "Quality of Life". I'd createdthis sometime in the mid to late seventies and always thought I might useit some day.Lamar Morgan (president of AAi) has been trying with his persistance toget a permanent home for AAi. A place where things can be left, ratherthan pack up, moved to and from the Libarary where general AAi meetingsare held. For those who know Lamar, he is one to cause alot of "first" tohappen. I've seen him in action and what he does is to find things thathave seemingly no relationship and find a commonality amoung them, to bringthem together in accomplishing something good. And Lamar has good ideas,in which the big picture here is to obtain the building space and contentswhich will be a multi-media learning center, financed thru the sponsorshipsof corporate donations. Of course the platform of choice is the Amiga, asystem that really has a needed for having a place where people can learnabout the Amiga and how to productively use it. Funny, but in Petro andI, our unplanned detour to the AAi meeting, we drove by the building Lamarhas an eye on.Over the years I've consider how "3 S.E.A.S" could stand for many thingsusing such a combination of words as: Success, Science, Software,Survival, Education, Entertainment, Electronic(s), Engineering, Arts, Act,Architecture, Attitude(s), etc..Not long after I'd moved to Atlanta, part of the filming of "Back to theFuture" was taking place in Georgia. You know the shopping mall parkinglot scene where alot of things came together causing the trun of events.It looked as though I might get a chance to visit a relative I either hadnever met or was to young to remember meeting. But Rudd Weatherwax, theowner and trainer of Lassie, passed away. Robert, the animal trainer onthe set, Rudds son and my half uncle in-law, of course, went back toCaliforina. We have never made a connection.I've been told this mother and talent agent I knew, Linda Curtis, passedaway some time ago from evolving complication of chronic diabetes. ThoughI made several efforts to see her during her last year, driving thousandsof miles for no other reason, she refused to see me. But I really don't ifshe has passed on. We never made this last connection.The missing person case, well it's still an open case and though I've beentold that unless something happens, it'll stay away from public access fora period of fifty years after the last remaining involved party has passedon. But I still receive a mysterious call ever now and then. And I knowthere is 4 to 5 inches of my written efforts, of over a decade, to resolvethis situation. Information I believe could be used to help improve thethe level of research and understanding about PTSD. I don't know if thecase will ever be closed in my lifetime, or even if it is, whether or notit'll make any difference for me. I don't even know if I still care aboutthis girl.Though I had given Linda a phone number and said to her what I did, I nevermade the call to my half aunt. I never made a connection that might havemade a difference.Perhaps the Amiga community as well as the rest of the industry can startmaking the connection, for correction needed in the industry, with thetransportation I've provided here.Maybe "3 S.E.A.S" should stand for the sea of honesty, the sea ofdishonesty, and most important the sea of honesty about dishonesty andit's counter point, misunderstanding. A man made stone placed in a seas ofbricks for many to walk accross, stand upon and read.Rrrriiinng.... Hello.... hello... is anybody there? Is anybody listening?-------------* It is 12:57 a.m. the 11th of June, as I finish this posting set. Thisfourth part may be revised as I integrate more. This work is copyrighted1997 by myself - Timothy Rue. But only so that no alteration be done. Youmay copy it but only in it's complete context or with notice that it isonly a part of larger work. ***-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy Rue Email: timrue@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue/--...--------------

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friend

05-07-2008, 11:11 AM

Are you one of the twins of Linda Curtis that was put up for adoption. I heard something about this somewhere but I do not rember where i read it. I asked some people that were friends of the family about it and they told me the twins names.If you are one of the twins which one were you Sherly or Carol Blanchard.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 11:26 AM

hi
Yes those are the names we were given by our birth mother linda.We were placed before that in the adoption agency and named other names(apparantly we were not apopted by these people) and then adopted by who my parents are now.They were good parents.God did take care of us.my twin sister kids around we were probably very confused little girls.she wasn't being mean.Three names before the age of three.It really kind of made me sad.But I guess it all happened for a reason.

suzane

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 11:34 AM

hi
I'm really kind of confused which one I was the adoption papers say I was carol.but when we talked to the family around 13 years ago some one said carol was the big baby.I was not the big baby.I am a little bigger than my sister now.LOL.just about a size.)I was the sick little baby that needed medical attention.

suzanne

friend

05-07-2008, 11:47 AM

That would be hard for a three year old to digest. What 3 names were you given ? They should of have just called ya hay you until they figured out what name they were going to use huh? So was your sister adopted with you too? Is she still alive. Has she wanted to help find Tammy too?

Friend

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 11:52 AM

hi
Yes sandy was adopted with me.No she has not really looked for tammy.I guess she just really lets me do it.She does care.She I guess just has her own life and is busy and that's ok?I understand that.

suzanne

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 11:57 AM

Hi
I don't usually put too much on all this because it is very confusing and it does nothing at all to find tammy.I am very curious.when they called?to say tammy would call when she wa ready Who called Tammy?was it from the Police?

suzanne

friend

05-07-2008, 11:57 AM

So your names were Carol sherly suzanne and susan. what were your other two names?
Friend

friend

05-07-2008, 11:59 AM

from what i understand it was a woman that called the coca police not long after she went missing.

Friend

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 12:07 PM

hi
Carol and cheryl and then two other names in the file somewhere.and the suzanne and sandra.this call wasn't recently to them?Wouldn't tammy have called by now.It's been 25 years.That's why I thought something happened to tammy.I really do think she would have contacted some one by now.Even if she was mad at our mother linda.Linda is dead.she still would have contacted some one else.she wasn't mad at every body.I do pray she is out there and not an unidentified Jane doe out there somewhere.Maybe she is just afraid to come back for some reason.

suzanne

Mystery Lover

05-07-2008, 03:10 PM

Hi Suzanne...

Have the police checked her ss# lately to see if its been used at all? She'd most likely need it sooner or later to get a drivers licence or social security when she gets older.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 03:16 PM

Hi
They say it wasn't used awhile back.I'm assuming the police are doing that now.I hope so.

suzanne

Mystery Lover

05-07-2008, 03:36 PM

You should see if they can run it again. You never know when something will pop up.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 03:40 PM

Hi
I'll ask them if they will.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 06:05 PM

Hi Suzanne...

Have the police checked her ss# lately to see if its been used at all? She'd most likely need it sooner or later to get a drivers licence or social security when she gets older.
The question is did she in fact have a social security number? Anyone know?

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 06:23 PM

I found the link you could not find on the Tim Rue text..Very interesting I think, Suzanne you know Tim Rue? After reading that I have some questions as well. I assume since it is posted on the internet it is not offensive and would like to talk about that. I think I know Tim Rue, the one I know is or was in Georgia. I think he may be in his mid 40s.

If anyone comes back online let me know if you want the link or if you want I will post it for you..

That text has a lot of information in it. Lots and lots of things to be followed up on especially in a missing person case. MAny times people are missing by choice, it is still fairly easy to assume new identities or to avoid having to assume one and remain hidden maybe forever unless someone decides to look.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 06:36 PM

Hi
We emailed him awhile ago.Apparantly the police already I believe followed up on all this.Who knows.I have no idea what he is talking about.I told him to call the police about it.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 06:44 PM

He made some very strong statements to you there. What did he say about seeing her?

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 06:47 PM

I am curious how you ran across this guy and what he said, if he is the Tim Rue that I know he is somewhat irrational and abrasive.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 06:57 PM

Well you could not find the link and I went to it. This is it here. I sure would like to know why he thinks it is a dumb police trick. Or other trick. Suzanne I know this guy, I just happened up here on a Google search and thought I would what he was up to. If you care to talk about him let me know. I have a few tricks up my sleeves.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/70250e440f9dc210/8738bf3361103f29?lnk=st&q=suzannec4444#8738bf3361103f29

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 07:13 PM

Hi
Well if the police know where she is then it is time to take her off as a missing person case.I could never understand this guy.It just never made any sense to me.It says he wrote that other one 1997?That's interesting.That is when we were talking to the FDLE and they just got called in in 1997.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 07:17 PM

Without saying too much about me, I know about these things. Are you sure that the police know? I know some people in Florida LE and know how to get it going but I don't want to step on any toes. He is saying a lot..I wondered after reading the message if he fabricated the whole message

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 07:20 PM

Hi
Did he say I was a legal dumb blond trick?

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 07:31 PM

Well I guess I am not that interesting. I do not know anything about this girl Tammy but I do know some other things. But, I will go and just assume the information is not wanted or needed.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 07:32 PM

Well you are here sorry

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 07:32 PM

My interpretation is that he feels that you contacted him for a purpose against his wishes

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 07:38 PM

I remember the dumb blond to be the police officer

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 07:39 PM

Hi
well we did not want to talk to him again after that.It made no sense to me or any one else.Maybe we should call the police to look into him again.Maybe even the FDLE?

suzanne

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 07:42 PM

Hi
I think he said something about a police officer that pinned him to the ground or something.she apparantly was I think protecting tammy or something.I did always want to know what and when that happened?

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 07:47 PM

Who altered the email? Do you see that it is the same as when you wrote it?

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 07:48 PM

I do not that part of it...Sounds like it...

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 07:58 PM

Hi
Sorry.Email altered?where?Is this on a board somewhere?I saved all this.Let me find it.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:02 PM

He is accusing you of being someone else or a police officer. Not knowing any more than I do about the girl, it seems to me he was feeling jilted and he thinks it is you and tricking him and I cannot see why. He has a psychological problem he attributes to the girl leaving. Seems he has harbored terrible feelings about her and he has problems dealing with. I have found a image online for him. He is the one I know. He looks like a man with the problems I knew he had . He is bad eyed and has images of young girls in photo's behind him.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:03 PM

Yes it is all there in 4 posts.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:10 PM

He is saying that you are the girl that is missing Tamara, and that you have decieved him and he is not happy about that. he says your hands are dirty..I have to ask again, did you actually talk to him in this email or did he fabricate it?

And i wonder about his motives for posting it on the internet, assuming it was him that did.

This becomes more an incredible story the more times that I read it,i dont know enough about thefacts of the missing but from a psychological autopsy standpoint this man has real issues with the girl that he seems to believe jilted him. I have a problem with some things, in some ways i see that he is actually the person who saw her last. That he is the missing link in the chain of information.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:13 PM

Reading further he directly accuses you of destroying people, he does not allude to a third party. He has it made up in his mind that you are the girl who hurt him. You did not send him any photographs of yourself did you?

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:17 PM

In his last sentence he is saying that he believes you are the one who jilted him and he is opening the door for you to recontact him..mam this fellow thinks you are who you are not. If you did not follow up with him back when I think you made a mistake, he was ripe for taking, he was in the mood..The waters should be tested again as he knows something. He may require some assurance of you but even though I assume he hasnt contacted you he is still waiting for you to do so, this PTSD forces him to forever react.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 08:20 PM

Hi
He thought I could be tammy or a cop.He seemed kind or paranoid.He put this on a board in 2002?That's when we asked him questions.you might be on to something here.would you like to call the CBPD about this.Can you find out more on this email under it?what was this about?did it have anything to do with my email or tammy.

2816p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I

i found a neclace 2 months ago that led me here

it is identical to the vic
i knew it was special
i have some background in the kabbala and such life truths
love

john

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:22 PM

"A stranger comes along and starts to poke around at what must be not
completely healed wounds.... but wounds that have been poked out every so
many year of the past twenty years.. "

The time may well be now, the time has passed, contacting him now with a plan would shock his senses and his loss, he is older, he maintains the same feelings he says that he had though now they are enhanced by this disorder PTSD. The PTSD is a greater advantage to you, it make him very suspicious but it makes him vulnerable as all emotions are exploding all the time, your new entrance would be a greater explosion and knowing his own age and wants of this girl he will divulge things he might not to the best of his interests.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:25 PM

I know this man. I will go to the post and see. There is no doubt that I am onto something quite by accident.

I missed I suppose the part about the necklace. I do know people who can trace emails with sufficient information , I cannot help but notice some of the headers on these emails and the email addresses appear to be altered..Possibly to keep his anonymity intact..maybe yours as well, if he is thinking what we are deciding he is thinking then he wants you well.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:32 PM

I would like for you to answer all that I have asked. I am not sure of the second email you mentioned. Was there question of a necklace? In what aspect?

If you answer I will go further with what you asked but I want to know you will as some of this may not be easy and I did not intend to do anything but find this man here. If you think you will go farther with this then I will absolutely go further with you.

But I apologize for any implied rudeness, I cannot wait 15 minutes between posts. Other than that and what I have yes, I will go further.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 08:36 PM

Hi
Yes,we did email him.I did say something like that.He emailed me about a year and a half to two years ago.He said something like nothing changes.I emailed the police to look into him.I don't know if the police ever got my email.But the emails stopped?do you have the link to the pictures of him with the women.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:37 PM

Actually that post you mention sounds like what a hilljack would say, "crap". Looks to be what the man said harassment..

Regardless , was there a question of a necklace.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:38 PM

Good , then he is as I said, ripe..I am assuming he emailed you this last time is that right? Or no?
I believe he emailed you from what you say, that means you had contact in 2002, then 2 years ago would be 2006. He is cycling. His emotions are cycling back and he is wanting that contact. If not now then shortly he will be ready, he said nothing changes. I take this to mean he still feels that you are someone else and the need is still there. I cannot but help by knowing this man and what I see in the writing that he knows something or has done something.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:48 PM

it is identical to the vic
i knew it was special
i have some background in the kabbala and such life truths
love

john

A psychic posted this some time back I believe. I do not recall any more. I see this post as portuguese gigging him about his overblown emotions for this girl.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 08:50 PM

Hi
I'm sorry I have kids to look after too now.I can't be quick.i'm sorry.this was on the post after it.Did that have something to do with something.

2816p4TteRSuKXBIgGr8gRiNDIkkZAlLD3I

i found a neclace 2 months ago that led me here

it is identical to the vic
i knew it was special
i have some background in the kabbala and such life truths
love

john

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 08:53 PM

Yes I remember the quote now. I have a thing against psychics and watch there spoutings for daily laughs. I thought I recognized this and it just came to me.

I am glad my small kids days are gone but now they cost more. Cell phones should ruin many families this year.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 08:55 PM

Hi
What did he mean identical to the vic mean?the psychic said there was a necklace?do you have a link so I can see what this necklace would have looked like?curious.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 09:00 PM

I have to go, I will look back here tommorow night at 7:00 p.m. to see if you want me to do anything or read more of the undertonings of his words. You should not hesitate to develop a plan on this. He believes you are his lost one, he is thinking it as we write.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 09:02 PM

Identical to the victim, I am not sure if they were talking about this girl , or you as Mr. Rue would have it. Or someone else. The other is just guru chanting about exotic places and false intelligence.

No I do not have a link, I remember it.

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 09:05 PM

If in the meantime feel free to post any message to me, I might look in sometime during the morrow.

Kabbalah literally means "receiving", is the mystical aspect of Judaism. It is meant to define the inner meaning traditional Rabbinic literature, as well as to explain the significance of Jewish religious observances. Therein is the truth the psychic mentions.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 09:07 PM

Hi
Ok,Thankyou.In one of his writtings somewhere he says.I saw tammy before she left.I touched?her necklace and said I liked it.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-07-2008, 09:53 PM

You need a plan. Can't you see the obsession? Are there no facts? Yes there must be. Analyze that post. This could be the thing you have been missing. Other than the matter you just wrote, and the psychic, is there anything else about a necklace. There must be, there has to be. I do not know the time parameters of the leaving of the girl, but they should be committed to paper, in a line to see each known date, time and event.Years from now even as these years have now past, something will come up, as this has. You need to insert that comment he made into the known facts, try to develop that very time, the clothing, the people present, the vehicles, the location he means. There is something being said there. All these need to be found out as best they can. And about him as I know him. I cannot tell you what I know but I can take what I know and apply it to what I read here and tell you.

suzannec4444

05-07-2008, 10:21 PM

Hi
I have a folder on him.I will read every thing again.

suzanne

porchlight

05-07-2008, 11:49 PM

I have often wondered if Tammy might be in the witness protection program or went into hiding on her own to protect herself. That would have meant, though, giving up her career and aspirations. This could cause some distress. I don't know. I want to believe, like Peter Pan, I want to believe...

Mystery Lover

05-08-2008, 09:50 AM

Who knows, get to know the family.....you might just meet Tammy along the
way....I don't know, but it's probably the better probability. And if not
that, then maybe you might figure out why she would have left.

That is a quote from one of the emails I just read.

What I'm getting out of that quote is that quite possibly Tammy is in hiding WITH the help of her relatives.

Never really thought of it that way.

She could be even living with one of them. And maybe that's why they're all being rude to you Suzanne. That maybe they know where she is and that she's living with them or close to them and Tammy wants them to keep quiet.

She could possibly have a husband and children now and they could know nothing about her past life as a missing person. And that as long as she keeps quiet and doesn't come forward about where she is, then her now family won't get involved in all of it. I'm sure if she is hiding the truth from a husband and kids, if the truth came/comes out then it'll be very hurtful and hard on everyone involved. And maybe that is what Tammy is trying to stop from happening.

Even still... it would be nice for her to come out and just tell people that she is alive.

suzannec4444

05-08-2008, 10:11 AM

Hi
She needs to tell the police she is not a missing person any more and she wants to be left alone.They need to take her off as a missing person.I have talked to all the family members.They have not heard from her.The family was not being rude to me at all.They were very sweet.I could not get straight answers from other people and alot of people.The family was very nice to me and my sister.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-08-2008, 04:37 PM

I agree Mystery, and , it could be a huge financial boon to her as well, would be quite a story featured on Oprah, rights to publishing and others. From what I have been reading there was a good reason for leaving, no one would fault her. But we shall see. If she is alive and well I hope she see's the light as we are speaking and does turn things around for herself, she would be the star again.

suzannec4444

05-08-2008, 06:20 PM

Hi
Untill I know otherwise I will still look for her an unidentified Jane Doe somewhere.I really pray she is ok out there somewhere.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-08-2008, 06:47 PM

And that you should. Have you given any more thought in looking into Tim Rue? Did you study your folder last night?

NEWYORKEX

05-08-2008, 07:07 PM

Well we are back to 15-20 minutes between posts, I have seen that others are viewing this thread. No comments? If not there is not much sense in remaining.

NEWYORKEX

05-08-2008, 07:09 PM

Thank you good folks but I see no interest here. I know the man and have studied the information as I thought I was aked to do.

suzannec4444

05-08-2008, 07:10 PM

Hi
Sorry My inlaws are here.Please call the police and tell them about him ok?

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-08-2008, 08:46 PM

Well ok, but I do not know there names.

I am sorry to have wasted your time..

Not about your in laws but I just spoke with the police. I believed I was assisting you. Now I see I was wrong, I will pursue the matter on my own.

It is strange, the fever you said you had in finding your sister, it left you suddenly, or did it?

suzannec4444

05-08-2008, 09:11 PM

Hi
You never waisted my time.Please do not feel that way.I am sorry.Thankyou very much for helping.The fever I have for finding Tammy has not left me and never will.But I have learned in a long time of looking for Tammy.Some things really are better for the police to handle.

suzanne

friend

05-08-2008, 10:26 PM

If you think it is best for the police than maybe you should call them yourself instead of asking everyone else? It seem as if you have a habbit of doing that. I always see you ask people to call this person or that person. Why is that? You are family and they should be working with you so get to know the detectives on a name basic and give them the file you have on Tim Rue. Me myself having had know Tammy and her family I do not look for her as a jane doe. If you read between Rue lines. He had seen her after she disappeared and a few others heard from her after she went missing. I think it is best if maybe you get your sister in the search with you because to be honest I do not think Tammy would seek you out only because she never even knew you or never met you. Does not Debbie want to help find her?

Friend

suzannec4444

05-09-2008, 07:18 AM

Hi
I usually say if there is a lead someone thinks they know in tammy's case to call the police.That's what I am suppose to do and that is what they want me to do.I have always called in all leads to the police.My sister does not care to get involved with all this and I respect that.I have already called Tim R in to the police to check a long time ago.I do not say call the family members or friends because that is rude.If you have a lead please go to the police.I look for her as a unidentified Jane Doe because all leads need to be checked.It might not be the way people want to find her.But it is not fair to leave her out there some where as an unidentified Jane Doe some where or some bones in some anthropologist office.There is a new police officer on her case.His name is Detective Cooper.I am working with him with right now.I have worked with all the police on her case.They are not allowed to tell me or any one much because they say it's still an ongoing investigation.How long did you really know tammy.May I please ask who you are?

suzanne

Mystery Lover

05-09-2008, 07:41 AM

Suzanne... Have you told the police about this website? Or any of the websites that have info on Tim Rue and the emails that went on between you and him?

They may or may not want to come here and look. But it would be good to let them know the links to all these sites that have info on Tammy.

suzannec4444

05-09-2008, 07:49 AM

Hi
He has not showed any interest in message boards.I did contact the police when he emailed me before.

suzanne

NEWYORKEX

05-09-2008, 09:10 AM

and other personal info removed. (3/12/98)

Resume 8/91

Timothy Vincent Rue

Current Occupation:

Yon's Custom Cabinets

Main Duty is Cutout though Tim does buildup, lamination, and
various other duties.

Cabinetry Background:

Eleven years experience working with table saws, radialarm saws,
ban saws, routers, shapers, staple and nail guns, and a number of hand
held power tools. Tim has worked alot with both laminate plastics and
real wood cabinetry. Has done everything from cut stock to install and
is well rounded in cabinetry experience.

Exhibit, Display, and Scenery Background:

4/81 - 3/82 - He worked in set construction and painting for the
following productions;
Performing Arts Center's - (Brevard County, Fla.): "King and I",
"Carosell", "Sleuth", "Godspell", and "South Pacific".
Erika Rappa Ballet's: "Sleeping Beauty".
Childrens Community Theater's: "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs"
and "Pied Piper".
On Stage Dinner Theather's: "The Owl and the Pussycat" and "The
Button".

Jack Link & Associates: (Set Construction and Painting)
-1983 Daytona Beach Spring Break. Job included sets for
"Frangelico", "Mountain Dew", "Grolsch Beer", and a number
of smaller jobs.
-1984 Daytona Beach Spring Break. Shop Forman. Job included
sets for "As The World Turns", "Honda", "Slim Jims", "Hawaiian
Perfumes", and a number of smaller jobs.
-1984 Memorex Convention, Orlando Fla.
-1984 American Honda Convention, East Coast.
Jack Link & Assoc. with Performing Arts Association:
-"Man of LaMancha", Worked set construction, painting, tech.,
and acting. Show toured to Vero Beach after Cocoa Fla.

(Tim also worked most of the ins, outs, backstage, and loft (Fly
systems) in the above productions and conventions.)

Sugar Creek Studios, Inc. 9/85 - 9/86 Full-time.
Tasks included: Build-up (fabrication), lamination, electrical
(wiring light fixtures), sculpting (foam), installation, etc...
He worked with variuos materials, depending on what the jobs
called for, and was given freedom to determine how he would
accomplish the tasks given him. For the most part Tim was
assigned to the more diffucult jobs and tasks, helping to find
solutions to fabrication problems that arose.

Freeman Decorating Company 1/91 - 6/91 Temorary.
Hired to build booths but other duities varied from working the
show floor (supervising booth installation (AORN), rigging hanging
signs (Comdex), stage I & D (Southern Babtist Convention and
Presidential Address of), to remodeling of FDC's breakroom and
restrooms.

Technical Background:

From early 70's into 1981, helped many local bands (Brevard County,
Fla.) as stagehand, soundman, and lightman.
8/81 - 1/82 - He obtained over eighty hours cameraman experience,
using CC011 equipment, taping mostly bands.
1984 - Cameraman for five - three day Beauty Pagents. Tasks
included 1/4-split-screen-close-up-follow, done very well.
Camera JVC KY2000.
1984 - Cameraman for Alburndale Grand Prix Kart Races, a three day
event. Tim covered 2/3 of track. Camera RCA TK76C.

Education Background:

Major course of study through school - Arts
Covered such areas as drawing, painting, various crafts,
Photography, film production, and theater.
Secondary course of study through school - Electronics.
Studied in high school and through Capitol Radio Engineering
Institute. Has designed, built, and studied electronics on
his own. Interest has faded, but can understand most tech.
information. Will do minor repair work, good at soldering.
Minor field of study - Business.
Through College but mostly on his own.

Additional Information:

*Passport

NEWYORKEX

05-09-2008, 09:12 AM

TIMOTHY VINCENT RUE

OBJECTIVE:

* Seeking to enter the field of Animation/Multi-Media. Making such
a career move is the next logical step given my background, both
work, education and personal investment.

EXPERIENCE:

COMPUTER WISE - 14 years.

* Competent with AmigaDOS, PC\MS-DOS, Windows, Macintosh and UNIX
at user level.
* Animation - I know my way around Lightwave 3.5 well and have
produced a few short animations (limited to RAM). I make
use of my background in art, CAD, lighting, stage and
movement (camera as well as stage). With Modeling I pull
from my experience of building and high skill level of
mental form perception.
* CAD - From cabinetry and exhibits I have explored CAD systems of
MicroStation, Design CAD 2D/3D, Casmate, Turbo CAD. From
personal equipment, Lightwave 3D v3.1, Accutrans, Pixel
Pro.
* Image Processing - Corel Draw, Toaster Paint, Photo Paint,
PhotoShop LE, ImageMaster R/t, Art Department Pro,
Image FX and a few other paint/image processing programs.
* Have done some programming in C (Turbo C and SAS C) and BASIC.
* Introduced to programming languages AREXX, AWK and ICON. As well
as HELM, a multi-media authoring system.
* Shell and batch programing use. 4DOS, Csh, and other shells.
* Personal equipment includes an AMIGA A4000, Video Toaster 4000/
Warp Engine 28Mhz/Emplant Mac Sys 7.5 and IBM 586
emulation/22 Meg RAM/2.75 Gig HD. CD-ROM 3x, Polaroid
CI-3000 film recorder. An A1000/2.5 Meg RAM/80 Meg HD.
IBM XT compatable. Two dot matrix printers and 14,400
fax/modem.

CONCEPT PRODUCTIONS present.
Being a small Trade Show/Exhibit House, I do most everything.
From fabrication, warehouse, I&D, Graphics, etc.. My home base
position is that of heading the Graphics/Design-Render/Detail
department. In addition to this, I'm upgrading the company
computer systems in both hardware and software with the objective
of bringing in better CAD, rendering and graphics production
abilities. With the additional goal of doing fly through
animations and perhaps multi-media work. Currently my rendering
work is done with LightWave on my personal equipment though plans
are to get it up on Company PC's.

IDEAS Inc. 11/92 - 6/94
Hired to assist in graphics production (vinyl, cut-letters,
silkscreen.) In addition to my hired position, I would repair and
upgrade the computer systems in the graphics department in both
software and hardware. On my own I worked to promote evolving
the company into doing inhouse image generation/processing,
animation, multi-media, with an eventual goal of virtual reality.
And to do so with low cost and low risk while solving problems by
integrating data from various departments. Made a personal
investment in a Video Toaster 4000 system and additional software
and hardware in order to communicate by doing/showing.

VARIOUS COMPANIES. 1979 - present
Over fifteen years experience in Cabinetry, Exhibit, Display,
and Scenery fabrication. From cabinetry to theater to tradeshow,
have done most all there is to do from the production end. From
co-design of theatrical sets to set fabrication. From layout/cutout
in cabinetry and exhibits to installation (I&D), decorating and
rigging. Materials varied and often I'm given the more difficult
tasks to complete and freedom to determine how I'll accomplish it.

Early 70's - mid 80's
Helped many local bands as stagehand, soundman and lightman as
well as cameraman, using both consumer and professional level
equipment. Camerman experience includes numerious beauty pagents
and the 1984 Alburndale Grand Prix Kart Races.

FORMAL EDUCATION:

* Programming - Dekalb Tech (winter through summer quarter - 1990).
BASIC and C programming languages, earning a 4.0 GPA.
Placed on Dean's List while working full time.

* Electronics - Capitol Radio Engineering Institute.
"Minicomputers and Microprocessor Technology"
Working knowledge of intergrated circuit operation.

* Arts - From Elementry to College, Brevard, Florida
Major - drawing, painting, photography, film production,
theater, and various crafts. Placed on Dean's List.

* GPA 3.55 with 55 college credited hours.

WORK BACKGROUND:

* 11/84 - 10/91 Yon's Custom Cabinets, Decatur, Georiga

* 10/79 - 11/84 Creative Cabinets, Melbourne, Florida

* Additional work references on request.

* Sample renderings available on request.

HOBBIES:

* Computing, research, writting and communication via internet