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dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 03:41 PM Gawd, I feel stupid. Here's my problem:
I have 250mg of the drug Cytoxan, and I add 50mL of solution to it. The question is, How many mL will be dispensed per dose?
The answer is 12.5 mL. How the heck do you get that???
Check that...I have 1g total of Cytoxan and the prescription calls for 250mg of it once a day for 5 days.
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 04:19 PM Gawd, I feel stupid. Here's my problem:
I have 250mg of the drug Cytoxan, and I add 50mL of solution to it. The question is, How many mL will be dispensed per dose?
The answer is 12.5 mL. How the heck do you get that???
I have no idea. I got 10.5 mL. :confused:
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 04:25 PM I got 0.0022 something...I dunno, way off. :lol:
Dutabi84 07-01-2005, 04:33 PM Are you sure the perscription isn't for 4 days? Because 50 mL/4 = 12.5
Plus, 1 gram isn't enough for 5 days of 250 mg, you'd need 1.25 grams for 5 days, or 1 gram for 4 days...or something like that.
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 04:38 PM It says 5 days. Cytoxan 250mg IV qd x 5 days. Of course, that doesn't mean it's not wrong. This worksheet is kind of stupid anyway.
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 04:40 PM Are you sure the perscription isn't for 4 days? Because 50 mL/4 = 12.5
Plus, 1 gram isn't enough for 5 days of 250 mg, you'd need 1.25 grams for 5 days, or 1 gram for 4 days...or something like that.
I thought you were supposed to convert the mg to mL then add 50 mL. :confused:
1 mL=100 mg
Dutabi84 07-01-2005, 04:47 PM I thought you were supposed to convert the mg to mL then add 50 mL. :confused:
1 mL=100 mg
Hmm, well I just figured it was wondering how much solution was dispensed per dose of the drug, in mL, in which case converting isn't necessary..I could be wrong.
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 04:53 PM I thought you were supposed to convert the mg to mL then add 50 mL. :confused:
1 mL=100 mg
I looked all over the net for that conversion!
I'm thinking I'm not going to work in a hospital pharmacy. :lol:
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 04:58 PM I thought you were supposed to convert the mg to mL then add 50 mL. :confused:
1 mL=100 mg
So that would be 2.5mL=250mg, right? Then add 50mL and get 52.5mL. Then I get 10.5 like you. For four days, it's 13.something.
Stupid problem. How did I ever pass trig?
Nighthawk76 07-01-2005, 05:35 PM What little math skills I once had vanished a long time ago. :lol:
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 05:47 PM What little math skills I once had vanished a long time ago. :lol:
Apparently mine have too. :lol: My rule for math in HS was always, once the final was over, I forgot everything the minute I walked out the door.
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 05:57 PM I looked all over the net for that conversion!
I'm thinking I'm not going to work in a hospital pharmacy. :lol:
Well, I could be completely wrong too. lol Math isn't my strong point either.
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 06:01 PM Hmm, well I just figured it was wondering how much solution was dispensed per dose of the drug, in mL, in which case converting isn't necessary..I could be wrong.
That's what it's asking, but you still need to convert if the 250 mg is taken into account for the solution of the problem. If it isn't, the answer is 10 mL. There's probably some really weird way to solve the problem that we haven't figured out yet. This is going to drive me insane. :lol:
Edited: The 1 mL= 100 mg conversion is if you're measuring water. The conversion is different for every substance. :rolleyes:
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 06:21 PM That's what it's asking, but you still need to convert if the 250 mg is taken into account for the solution of the problem. If it isn't, the answer is 10 mL. There's probably some really weird way to solve the problem that we haven't figured out yet. This is going to drive me insane. :lol:
Edited: The 1 mL= 100 mg conversion is if you're measuring water. The conversion is different for every substance. :rolleyes:
Oh great...no wonder I couldn't find anything! :lol:
I know what you mean. I hate when stupid little problems like this defeat me.
Kay Scarpetta 07-01-2005, 07:13 PM Are you in pharmacy school or something?
robyrob 07-01-2005, 08:09 PM That's what it's asking, but you still need to convert if the 250 mg is taken into account for the solution of the problem. If it isn't, the answer is 10 mL. There's probably some really weird way to solve the problem that we haven't figured out yet. This is going to drive me insane. :lol:
Edited: The 1 mL= 100 mg conversion is if you're measuring water. The conversion is different for every substance. :rolleyes:
it would actually be more complicated than that because the solid is dissolved into the liquid solution - which would change the volume by an unknown amount (unless you know a lot more about chemistry than you are letting on)
the question is, AFTER you add the 250g to the 50ml of solution, how many ml do you have?
of course, either way you look at it, unless the mixture gives you 62.5ml total volume, you would appear to only have a 4 day dose; 1g divided by 250mg per day = 4 days, and 50ml divided by 4 days = 12.5ml
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 08:14 PM it would actually be more complicated than that because the solid is dissolved into the liquid solution - which would change the volume by an unknown amount (unless you know a lot more about chemistry than you are letting on)
the question is, AFTER you add the 250g to the 50ml of solution, how many ml do you have?
It's 50 mg. Don't you have to convert the 250mg to mL though?
robyrob 07-01-2005, 08:48 PM It's 50 mg. Don't you have to convert the 250mg to mL though?
no - you CAN measure the volume of the 50mg (ml is a measure of volume, whereas mg is a measure of weight) - but it is irrelevant because it is dissolved into the solution anyways
when you add the solid to the liquid it will change the total volume, but its like adding salt to water - the water will absorb a certain percentage of the salt before it starts settling at the bottom, adding to the total volume.
*** in this case the amount of solution doesnt matter - you are dispensing a certain amount of the drug, 250mg per day. If you have 1 gram total you still only have a 4 days dosage.
if you mix the drug and the solution together, you would measure the total volume, and whatever it is, you would have to divide it by 4.
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 08:57 PM no - you CAN measure the volume of the 50mg (ml is a measure of volume, whereas mg is a measure of weight) - but it is irrelevant because it is dissolved into the solution anyways
when you add the solid to the liquid it will change the total volume, but its like adding salt to water - the water will absorb a certain percentage of the salt before it starts settling at the bottom, adding to the total volume.
How do you work the problem then? :confused: Also, grams measure mass, but that's not important lol.The question asks for a 5 day dosage. What is the amount of the total liquid solution?
robyrob 07-01-2005, 09:05 PM How do you work the problem then? :confused: Also, grams measure mass, but that's not important lol.
weight and mass are pretty much the same thing (as long as gravity is constant)
you are thinking about it too hard - to calculate it the way you are trying to, you would have to know the density of the drug (how many ml of drug are there per gram) and multiply that by the weight (alright mass then) of the drug, then you would need to know the solubility of the drug in the solution (how much of it will be absorbed by the solution before it increases the total volume).
it would be far easier to just measure it.
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 09:35 PM How would you measure it though? Wouldn't you get the same solution if you did the conversion?
Penny Lane 07-01-2005, 09:36 PM Oh................ Math and I have never gotten along! When my son was learning fractions( way back when )I had completely forgotten how to do them! Well, In helping him , I relearned fractions. It was sad! You snooze, you lose! :crazy:
robyrob 07-01-2005, 09:38 PM How would you measure it though?
measuring cup, measuring spoons, graduated cylinder, laser-guided turkey baster - it don't matter
Wouldn't you get the same solution if you did the conversion? maybe - if you were VERY careful, and had a way to accurately make those conversions...but your margin of error would probably be higher than the quantities involved
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 09:41 PM measuring cup, measuring spoons, graduated cylinder, laser-guided turkey baster - it don't matter
I meant in this instance. Didn't Dawsongirl say the problem was from a worksheet?
robyrob 07-01-2005, 09:42 PM I meant in this instance. Didn't Dawsongirl say the problem was from a worksheet?
i dont think so, but in this case, they do not provide you enough information to calculate an answer mathematically.
robyrob 07-01-2005, 09:44 PM i dont think so, but in this case, they do not provide you enough information to calculate an answer mathematically.
beyond the simple
1 gram divided by 250mg = 4
and
50ml divided by 4 equals 12.5ml
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 10:23 PM Are you in pharmacy school or something?
Pharmacy Technician school. That's why I'm not too worried that this one problem seems screwed up, cuz I'm not going to be a full out pharmacist.
dawsongirl 07-01-2005, 10:26 PM lol...I'm either making this problem too hard in my head, or I'm just plain lost.
I'm declaring the question wrong and burning it.
Sara Micelli 07-01-2005, 10:55 PM lol...I'm either making this problem too hard in my head, or I'm just plain lost.
I'm declaring the question wrong and burning it.
Sounds like a good idea to me. :lol:
TheHappyBurgerMeister 07-02-2005, 02:07 AM I know what you mean about forgetting how to do simple math! These days were all so spoiled by using calculators. Just a few weeks ago my mom and I were at the bank and I had to either divide some number or do long division and I had no clue how to do that! I ALWAYS use a calculator!
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