Does anyone remember the case of the nerdy glasses gut tormenting his X-girlfriend who was in college?? He forced her to get in his car and also ran her off the road?? That nerd couldn't have eluded the cops too long, but I have never seen an update.

I remember the case... Google search yields nothing... so I presume it's still unsolved.

I'm sure they're gonna find him at some fantasy/ gamers convention working as a Dungeon master for a virtual Dungeons and Dragons game! Is that the correct spelling of his last name?

He's still wanted:
<http://www.missourinet.com/wanted/fugitives/utterback_randall.htm>

I can't believe that guy is still on the run. How did he manage to flee the country after escaping from a police transit van? Stupid cops couldn't even guard one man properly. His parents must have helped him. He may be a dork but he is smart since he has never been captured and never will be.

I can't believe that guy is still on the run. How did he manage to flee the country after escaping from a police transit van? Stupid cops couldn't even guard one man properly. His parents must have helped him. He may be a dork but he is smart since he has never been captured and never will be.

:eek: I can't believe he's still out there either! :eek:

I can't believe that guy is still on the run. How did he manage to flee the country after escaping from a police transit van? Stupid cops couldn't even guard one man properly. His parents must have helped him. He may be a dork but he is smart since he has never been captured and never will be.

It's amazing how many fugitives are never caught. Yesterday there was another nerdy guy, a doctor or something, who committed date rape after using a drug on the women. It was a very old case and I was surprised at the lack of a "he's captured" update. Sorry I don't remember the name today. Yesterday I looked him up on the internet and one picture and summary popped up, indicating he was still at large.

It's amazing how many fugitives are never caught. Yesterday there was another nerdy guy, a doctor or something, who committed date rape after using a drug on the women. It was a very old case and I was surprised at the lack of a "he's captured" update. Sorry I don't remember the name today. Yesterday I looked him up on the internet and one picture and summary popped up, indicating he was still at large.


That's such a shame! :(

[QUOTE=Awsi Dooger]It's amazing how many fugitives are never caught. /QUOTE]

One factor is that it's not uncommon for a fugitive to change his/her appearance (by dying their hair, gaining weight, losing weight, growing a beard, etc.) Also, no matter how many viewers are tuned into the show, it just takes the right person to be watching before a fugitive is finally brought down. The general fact that a show like UM and America's Most Wanted repeat a segment again and again proves that persistence pays.

For example, consider the case of Malaika Griffin, who was wanted for the 1999 murder of her neighbor. Both UM and AMW profiled her. The latter profiled her eight times, and right after the eighth time she was featured on AMW, an alert viewer called in a tip which resulted in Griffin's capture.

If UM or AMW hadn't profiled the same fugitives over and over again, I am convinced that many of them would still be on the run today. Plus, they don't seem to care about their chances of catching certain criminals. Had they given up these profiles, the fleeing scumbags would have won.

The date rape guy is Kenneth Frank. He's real scum. I wish he was captured. According to the Bakersfield's most wanted website, he's still on the run. The stupid judge allowed him to remain free pending sentencing. Naturally he didn't show up on the sentencing day.

The date rape guy is Kenneth Frank. He's real scum. I wish he was captured. According to the Bakersfield's most wanted website, he's still on the run. The stupid judge allowed him to remain free pending sentencing. Naturally he didn't show up on the sentencing day.

I wonder if that judge is (or was) a member of the American Civil Liberties Union. You know how much the ACLU obviously loves sex offenders!

Kane,

I would appreciate it if you could keep your right-wing agenda away from our beloved board. Surely you can see that members can become upset or offended and thus start to dislike posters who push certain agendas on a website like this one. I appreciate your contributions to this board very much, that is why I do not want to see members become upset with you due to your agenda pushing. I just do not think this board is the appropriate channel for such comments. Hopefully you will be objective and agree with me. No disrespect intended at all sir.

Thank You

Kane,

I would appreciate it if you could keep your right-wing agenda away from our beloved board. Surely you can see that members can become upset or offended and thus start to dislike posters who push certain agendas on a website like this one. I appreciate your contributions to this board very much, that is why I do not want to see members become upset with you due to your agenda pushing. I just do not think this board is the appropriate channel for such comments. Hopefully you will be objective and agree with me. No disrespect intended at all sir.

Thank You

I wasn't trying to push any agenda. I just probably should have put a
laughing face on my previous message.

But I certainly don't joke about any anger that I have about a sex offender (or any violent offender) being released on bail.

Perhaps more research needs to address why sex offenders have the compulsions that motivate their evil behavior. More treatments for such people need to exist. If a person has sick and twisted compulsions, they should be able to tell a doctor about it and receive treatment without being thrown in jail or a psyche ward. I am not excusing their actions by any means, but society needs to do more for the mentally ill among us. I do not know what it is like to have evil impulses, I have been fortunate in that regard, but I do not think the answer is to lock up everyone who succumbs to such impulses. I do agree that until more treatment options have been developed, we must incarcerate these individuals to protect society. Hate and rage towards offenders will not solve the problem.

I wonder if that judge is (or was) a member of the American Civil Liberties Union. You know how much the ACLU obviously loves sex offenders!

The ACLU does phenomenal work. One instance I'm familiar with is here in Las Vegas. Many gamblers were literally jailed simply via which slot machines they chose to play. That is not an exaggeration. They were selectively playing bonus slot machines, so-called Vision machines, in which you can turn the house edge slightly in your favor with smart play.The Las Vegas Review Journal did a story indicating the police department and even judges were caving in to casino pressure and arresting and convicting these gamblers simply because the casinos considered them undesirable. Not until one of the individuals had the clarity to summon the ACLU did the practice begin to end after the casinos were successfully sued.

The more I watch these true crime shows, the more I side with defense. The prosecutors love to wave that cliche saying about "better to let 1000 guilty persons go free than convict an innocent man." Ha! The way they operate could not be more at odds with that theory. Just isolate someone and convict to cross it off our charts. No need for the truth. Make up whatever you have to and conceal the exculpatory stuff.

Lets' see, last I heard the Innocence Project of Barry Scheck and Peter Neufeld had freed 160 innocent people who had been wrongly convicted. That works out to 160,000 mistakes using that 1000-1 ratio. And just think how many more are wrongly locked up but the case doesn't have DNA evidence that could be tested to prove it.

I don't mind right wing fluff. No substance, just fear. So simple to flick away via any valid argument.

Kane,

I would appreciate it if you could keep your right-wing agenda away from our beloved board. Surely you can see that members can become upset or offended and thus start to dislike posters who push certain agendas on a website like this one. I appreciate your contributions to this board very much, that is why I do not want to see members become upset with you due to your agenda pushing. I just do not think this board is the appropriate channel for such comments. Hopefully you will be objective and agree with me. No disrespect intended at all sir.

Thank You

Any plans on voicing objections to what you consider left-wing agenda? :rolleyes: I'm against ALL extreme positions!

Perhaps more research needs to address why sex offenders have the compulsions that motivate their evil behavior. More treatments for such people need to exist. If a person has sick and twisted compulsions, they should be able to tell a doctor about it and receive treatment without being thrown in jail or a psyche ward. I am not excusing their actions by any means, but society needs to do more for the mentally ill among us. I do not know what it is like to have evil impulses, I have been fortunate in that regard, but I do not think the answer is to lock up everyone who succumbs to such impulses. I do agree that until more treatment options have been developed, we must incarcerate these individuals to protect society. Hate and rage towards offenders will not solve the problem.

You're right. Hate and rage won't solve the problem. But chances are, neither will any form rehabilitation. The longer they are removed from society, the better. A sex offender will always be a sex offender. They're a danger to society, and are not too different from other violent offenders. They are the way they are, and no matter what treatments you give them, they will not change or become less likely to re-offend.

What if, God fordid, some loved one of yours got attacked by a sex offender?Would you want them just treated, and be given no jail time? Sex offenders need to be removed from society so that they can't harm anyone else. More often than not, a sex offender is a leopard that doesn't change its spots.

This is all I could find, like mentioned before he is still on the run..

http://members.socket.net/~audrainsheriff/audrain/utterback.html

This is all I could find, like mentioned before he is still on the run..

http://members.socket.net/~audrainsheriff/audrain/utterback.html

I noticed that it reads "05.23.05" at the bottom of the page. That would mean May 23, 2005, so the page is clearly updated as of that date. Clearly, that page is far from outdated.

It's amazing how many fugitives are never caught. Yesterday there was another nerdy guy, a doctor or something, who committed date rape after using a drug on the women. It was a very old case and I was surprised at the lack of a "he's captured" update. Sorry I don't remember the name today. Yesterday I looked him up on the internet and one picture and summary popped up, indicating he was still at large.

Thankfully, they found this creep. He was hiding out in Israel! Maybe those women will find some justice now.

I'm amazed but pleased that the country gave him up.

the unsolved mysteries wiki says he is still wanted. .Guess is his family is hiding him that's why he hasn't been found. They defended him on the show in letter read on the show. everyone knows Randal seems to think he was set up because Denise 's father in police officer. Denise's side believes her. Randall probably has all kinds of people hiding him.

Wouldn't the statute of limitations have run out on this case a long time ago?

Rewatched this segment.

Who wants to bet this guy was killed and buried on some remote corner of farmland?

In reply to the last two posts, if the answer to James' post is "yes", then the odds of the answer being "yes" to sewan's question rise drastically. He would have shown up by now. I'm guessing that not many people would be missing this creep.

There is always a chance (even if a remote one) that when Randall Utterback fled, he took up residence in another country.

Frederick Russell, Ira Einhorn and Alex Kelly (and I am sure others) did just that. In fact, Russell, Einhorn (and again, likely others) were even captured in another country.

Wouldn't the statute of limitations have run out on this case a long time ago?

He is a wanted fugitive so I don’t know that it would apply to him. I think it might change if he was never arrested and charged in the first place. I’m not 100% sure, but I think that was talked about before either on UM or on the other thread.

According to reports online it says that he was imprisoned without bond before he escaped. he never went to trial. I think that was a big factor for me for those that defended him in the other thread. If he is innocent why did he escape and never return? Why did he not present his side of the story in a trial? interesting that a judge did not allow him to be out on bond. He would have been out of jail by now if he had been convicted and sentenced.

Oh, I just watched that episode. He was a dentist named Dr. Steven (maybe Stephen) Frank. OMG that guy is such a CREEP!

Wouldn't the statute of limitations have run out on this case a long time ago?

I doubt it. According to Denise, he ran her off the road, fired some gunshots in her direction and then dragged her into his car and drove away while her legs were dangling on the ground. The re-enactment alone means the guy was extremely dangerous. I can't see how the statue of limitations is gone for potential attempted murder.

I think what might have happened is that he probably spends less than 10 years in jail for this if he just takes the stand and defends himself. There could have been things that came out that paint a bit more favorable light on Randall, who knows, we never heard him try. But if he just takes off like a coward and never returns and probably has the help of his family then we may never see him and to me that just shows he is guilty. For me the charge would be attempted murder wouldn't it? How does that expire?

Wouldn't the statute of limitations have run out on this case a long time ago?

Probably not. Although none of the crimes he was likely charged with would not have a statute of limitations this long, if charges were filed while he was in jail (very likely, otherwise I can't see him being held for 6 months) then that would satisfy the statute of limitations requirement that the state bring charges.

The fact that he never turned up is interesting. I would think hiding him for that long would become impractical, although possible. Given his obsession with Denise I find it doubtful that he kept away from her of his own volition for this long. I also don't buy his supposed innocence, the pattern here and fact that he fled the law speaks volumes.

Given his behavior though, I think its quite possible he fled to some other place and tried this same garbage on a girl who's father was not to be so easily trifled with, and met a violent end that way.

I think what might have happened is that he probably spends less than 10 years in jail for this if he just takes the stand and defends himself. There could have been things that came out that paint a bit more favorable light on Randall, who knows, we never heard him try.

Like what?

Nothing excuses what he did!

I think the fact that he ran away and escaped from prison just reinforces that even Randall knows what he did was wrong and knew that he would be behind bars for a long time. He also might have been hiding other crimes that would have come to light. sometimes actions speak louder than words. there was nothing that would have made him look better in court. My guess is Randall would have attacked Denise's character because that's what desperate people do in court.

I think the fact that he ran away and escaped from prison just reinforces that even Randall knows what he did was wrong and knew that he would be behind bars for a long time. He also might have been hiding other crimes that would have come to light. sometimes actions speak louder than words. there was nothing that would have made him look better in court. My guess is Randall would have attacked Denise's character because that's what desperate people do in court.

I am not convinced he did in fact escape from prison. After rewatching the segment and reading both this forum and others over again I'm now thinking that Randall was himself a victim of foul play.

UM makes a single brief statement on his alleged escape. It's significant that the last known whereabouts of him are in the hands of the authorities. Normally that would be a cause for suspicion, but in this case it is mostly ignored. Not only that, but there is zero detail given how he escaped from them. Just that he was being transported and escaped. There have been other cases where a suspect was last seen in the hands of LE and following their disappearance all focus was on the LE officer and their account of what happened.

When rewatching the episode, I noticed something else. When describing the final encounter between the two Stack's narration states "In the struggle, Randall allegedly bit her hand and dropped his gun." Now I am sure standards and practices probably forced the wording here given that he was not convicted of any crime at the time of the broadcast, but it's still interesting how this is presented. There is no interview or statement from LE saying what they found for this claim either. However, this should have been forensic evidence.

So after this event, Randall is arrested, charged with several crimes, and then imprisoned without bond. Starting with the denial of bail, Randall was not charged with a capital crime, homicide, or any of the more serious crimes that are generally grounds for denying bail for flight risk or danger to the community. He was charged with felonious restraint, which is a lesser crime than kidnapping, and several counts of armed criminal action and stalking.

So we have someone who was imprisoned for six months without bail on what might be termed "lesser felony" charges. This would appear to be a much more severe treatment than many other criminals have gotten over the years on UM. I would even wager that it was on the edge of what the law even allows and if Randall had the use of a very good lawyer he likely would not have been in that long.

But there is something else significant here, namely the six month timing of his alleged escape. In Missouri, speedy trial laws require that a trial start within 180 days of when the defendant says they are ready. I cannot find anything about Randall or his representative communicating that they were ready to go to trail, but given the charges I could certainly see a possibility that they communicated readiness almost immediately after his imprisonment.

So at the point where Randall may well have been able to either force a trial or a dismissal on speedy trial grounds he disappears in the custody of LE. It's an interesting coincidence. Which brings us back to the incident as describe by Stack's narration. What if the evidence did not line up with the prosecution's case? I have to wonder a bit about the firearm that was allegedly involved, what if it wasn't Randall's? An issue like that could well have meant the trial would be a failure for the prosecution.

All of which is to say I'm really not sure what happened here, but I have doubts he is alive.

I am not convinced he did in fact escape from prison. After rewatching the segment and reading both this forum and others over again I'm now thinking that Randall was himself a victim of foul play.

UM makes a single brief statement on his alleged escape. It's significant that the last known whereabouts of him are in the hands of the authorities. Normally that would be a cause for suspicion, but in this case it is mostly ignored. Not only that, but there is zero detail given how he escaped from them. Just that he was being transported and escaped. There have been other cases where a suspect was last seen in the hands of LE and following their disappearance all focus was on the LE officer and their account of what happened.

When rewatching the episode, I noticed something else. When describing the final encounter between the two Stack's narration states "In the struggle, Randall allegedly bit her hand and dropped his gun." Now I am sure standards and practices probably forced the wording here given that he was not convicted of any crime at the time of the broadcast, but it's still interesting how this is presented. There is no interview or statement from LE saying what they found for this claim either. However, this should have been forensic evidence.

So after this event, Randall is arrested, charged with several crimes, and then imprisoned without bond. Starting with the denial of bail, Randall was not charged with a capital crime, homicide, or any of the more serious crimes that are generally grounds for denying bail for flight risk or danger to the community. He was charged with felonious restraint, which is a lesser crime than kidnapping, and several counts of armed criminal action and stalking.

So we have someone who was imprisoned for six months without bail on what might be termed "lesser felony" charges. This would appear to be a much more severe treatment than many other criminals have gotten over the years on UM. I would even wager that it was on the edge of what the law even allows and if Randall had the use of a very good lawyer he likely would not have been in that long.

But there is something else significant here, namely the six month timing of his alleged escape. In Missouri, speedy trial laws require that a trial start within 180 days of when the defendant says they are ready. I cannot find anything about Randall or his representative communicating that they were ready to go to trail, but given the charges I could certainly see a possibility that they communicated readiness almost immediately after his imprisonment.

So at the point where Randall may well have been able to either force a trial or a dismissal on speedy trial grounds he disappears in the custody of LE. It's an interesting coincidence. Which brings us back to the incident as describe by Stack's narration. What if the evidence did not line up with the prosecution's case? I have to wonder a bit about the firearm that was allegedly involved, what if it wasn't Randall's? An issue like that could well have meant the trial would be a failure for the prosecution.

All of which is to say I'm really not sure what happened here, but I have doubts he is alive.

This is all very interesting, but for me, nothing excuses the fact that Randall took advantage of a young woman, controlled, stalked, abused her, and then tried to abduct her. PERIOD. Nothing excuses what he did.

This is all very interesting, but for me, nothing excuses the fact that Randall took advantage of a young woman, controlled, stalked, abused her, and then tried to abduct her. PERIOD. Nothing excuses what he did.

My theory really has nothing to do with excusing him or not. He could have been a victim of foul play and also been guilty, the two are not mutually exclusive. Although its worth noting that he was only accused of these things, not convicted of them.

My theory really has nothing to do with excusing him or not. He could have been a victim of foul play and also been guilty, the two are not mutually exclusive. Although it's worth noting that he was only accused of these things, not convicted of them.

You are right that he could have been killed. I just get very passionate about cases of abuse and stalking. They make me so angry.

that's an interesting theory and it would explain why he was never found. I just read that this was also featured on AMW. did the authorities cooperate with UM and AMW segments? I will try to go back and watch.

Hasn't the statute of limitations run out on this case? Randall Utterback was charged with stalking, felonious restraint, and armed criminal action. It has been over 30 years, surely the statute of limitations has run out on those charges.

Other than the "Unsolved Mysteries Wiki page", I cannot find any news articles that state he was charged with Attempted Murder, which has no statute of limitations,

Does anyone have any insight into this?

Hasn't the statute of limitations run out on this case? Randall Utterback was charged with stalking, felonious restraint, and armed criminal action. It has been over 30 years, surely the statute of limitations has run out on those charges.

Other than the "Unsolved Mysteries Wiki page", I cannot find any news articles that state he was charged with Attempted Murder, which has no statute of limitations,

Does anyone have any insight into this?

You raise a valid point, and it may well be that the statute of limitations ran out. Which begs the question, if the statue of limitations ran out, likely decades ago, why is he still missing?

You raise a valid point, and it may well be that the statute of limitations ran out. Which begs the question, if the statue of limitations ran out, likely decades ago, why is he still missing?

1. Dead
2. Has lived under an assumed name so long without telling anyone close to him of his true identity and therefore feels it's simpler to go on existing in that capacity. Perhaps he will have an Alex Cooper-type of situation once he wishes to apply for Social Security, provided he's not in Canada.
3. We are not 100% clear on the statutes of limitations on all of the charges, and/or have never been fully made party to everything involved. Perhaps there are charges that have not expired.

1. Dead
2. Has lived under an assumed name so long without telling anyone close to him of his true identity and therefore feels it's simpler to go on existing in that capacity. Perhaps he will have an Alex Cooper-type of situation once he wishes to apply for Social Security, provided he's not in Canada.
3. We are not 100% clear on the statutes of limitations on all of the charges, and/or have never been fully made party to everything involved. Perhaps there are charges that have not expired.

2 & 3 are good points. It is possible that even though the statute of limitations have run out, he is so settled in his new life, why change things? In addition maybe he is afraid that the cops will spring new charges on him, that don't have a statute of limitation, like attempted murder.

1. Dead
2. Has lived under an assumed name so long without telling anyone close to him of his true identity and therefore feels it's simpler to go on existing in that capacity. Perhaps he will have an Alex Cooper-type of situation once he wishes to apply for Social Security, provided he's not in Canada.
3. We are not 100% clear on the statutes of limitations on all of the charges, and/or have never been fully made party to everything involved. Perhaps there are charges that have not expired.

My money is overwhelmingly on 1. The circumstances of his disappearance are quite suspicious.

1. Dead
2. Has lived under an assumed name so long without telling anyone close to him of his true identity and therefore feels it's simpler to go on existing in that capacity. Perhaps he will have an Alex Cooper-type of situation once he wishes to apply for Social Security, provided he's not in Canada.
3. We are not 100% clear on the statutes of limitations on all of the charges, and/or have never been fully made party to everything involved. Perhaps there are charges that have not expired.

I think he is probably dead. The circumstances of his alleged escape are questionable. There was a Missouri LEO suspected in the death of a young man and some disappearances. He found LE employment in another state. No proven connection. My brother-in-law was approached by a guy who thought he was a missing Utterback. We were eating lunch in NW Missouri's Burnt District (James gang country). I remember he pronounced it ooderbok. This guy was disappointed and mentioned his friend was probably dead.

If he is still alive there is no reason for him to come out of hiding. He has nothing to gain. Even if the statute of limitations have expired it's not like he will get a hero's welcome.

I think he is probably dead. The circumstances of his alleged escape are questionable. There was a Missouri LEO suspected in the death of a young man and some disappearances. He found LE employment in another state. No proven connection. My brother-in-law was approached by a guy who thought he was a missing Utterback. We were eating lunch in NW Missouri's Burnt District (James gang country). I remember he pronounced it ooderbok. This guy was disappointed and mentioned his friend was probably dead.

If he is still alive there is no reason for him to come out of hiding. He has nothing to gain. Even if the statute of limitations have expired it's not like he will get a hero's welcome.

If I were in his shoes, I'd lay low too.