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MetalHybrid 06-12-2005, 08:24 PM UM has done several fugitives segments, but what are some of those who have made you want to puke, the ones you get a really big loathing for :mad: . My list...
Adam Emory-How could you kill a person in self-defence when they did not crash their car into yours, and how could you miss the fact that their car had no damage that would reselt from such a collision? If he wanted to "take charge" of the situation he should have called the cops, but if he had a knife in the car than maybe he was just waiting for an opportunity to kill someone. His wife stuck by his side knowing he was a murderer, and since her bones were later found shortly after the initial braodcast, my guess is that she paid the ultimate price for her not-so wise decision.
Ira Einhorn-What was so great about this man? To correct an error in the braodcast, he actually had nothing to do with the founding of earthday, he just said he did to get attention, something he could not get anough of. He was just insecure without all that media attention, and took it out on his girlfriends, one of whom piad the price. Happily this hunk of filth has been put where he belongs, amongst others who will be spiteful, not seduced, by his image.
Nelson DeCloud-Just like Einhorn, what was so spectacular about this man? He browbeated and intimidated his own followers, and they all knew it, yet only one wanted to escape. Good thing that the address on the repair man's business card was not his own, and they did not find the escaped girl. Guess this loser also felt worthless without a whole crowd of followers to bow down to his words. He too has now been put where he belongs and no longer will attract a crowd of those who will see him as anything positive.
Daniel Pineda-I'd would have loved to see what John Walsh would say about this punk. Trying to get romantic with a girl six years younger than himself and than getting enraged when she calls it off. And since his friends and family(poeple like that really are sickning with a capital S) stalked that poor girl to keep her from pressing charges, they are equally dispicable and derserve no less punishment than he does. At least he got what was coming to him. Hopefully his F and F got something too since they did commit crimes of their own.
Rufino Castaneda-And all those out there like him. Nice to see this "man" has made John Walsh's personal worst of the worst by being on AMW's dirty dozen. Sexual assualts are often not given the demonization that they should, and that is why people like this get away with it more than once.
Well I can't think of more at the moment, but I have said enough
U.M. Fanatic 06-12-2005, 08:46 PM UM has done several figitives segemnets, but what are some of those who have made you want to puke, the ones you get a really big loathing for :mad: . My list...
Adam Emory-How could you kill a person in self-defence when they did not crash their car into yours, and how could you miss the fact that their car had no damage that would reselt from such a collision? If he wanted to "take charge" of the situation he should have called the cops, but if he had a knife in the car than maybe he was just waiting for an opportunity to kill someone. His wife stuck by his side knowing he was a murderer, and since her bones were later found shortly after the initial braodcast, my guess is that she paid the ultimate price for her not-so wise decision.
Adam Emory, what a scumbag. :mad:
I was swearing at him throughout this episode.
DarkDante 06-12-2005, 09:30 PM was a beacon for media attention based on his unqiue look, speaking skills and charisma. That is about all there is to Einhorn, he opposed "Tricky Dicky" and rallied around a lot of the causes of the day without being able to lay claim to any of them. The press in turn rallied behind Einhorn because of the reason stated above he was a very "attractive" poster child for the "counter culture". In fact if he did not kill Holly Maddox he would probably still be a "media darling" to this day and nobody would be the wiser.
Truth be told though Einhorn really was everything that UM portrayed him out to be including a jealous and insecure man who had tendencies to fly into violent rages far from the peace loving hippie image he projected to the greater world through his various media appearances and work with various "causes". The funny thing is a lot of these "causes" such as the Earth Day thing initally welcomed Einhorn's support but after spending about twenty minutes with the guy, he came off like such an arrogant jerk who was in love with himself that nobody wanted anything to do with him anymore. The Earth Day thing is a perfect example of this as according to founders of the event "Einhorn was asked to leave several meetings of the organizing committee which he attempted to disrupt. He was not welcome there, nor did he contribute in any material way to the committee’s activities. Einhorn, given a small role on the stage at Earth Day, grabbed the microphone and refused to give up the podium for thirty minutes, thinking he would get some free television publicity." - That is the gist of Ira's participation in "Earth Day" and likely a good example about his feelings about most of the noteworthy causes he championed.
To add a few more people to this list anyone who abducts a child in my opinion really deserves a special place in hell. Also the government officials who are obscuring the truth in cases like "Danny Casolaro", "Charlie Morgan", "Tommy Burkett", "Ives/Henry" and possibly even "Norman Ladner" I seriously wouldn't want to be them having that on my conscience.
Later.
themaninblack 06-12-2005, 11:25 PM what about the people responsible for the burning of the dog kennels? how somebody could kill almost 100 animals...talk about heartless!
and the rizzo case! whoever did that is one sick person, most likely her husband.
and the Social Security Murder case where the man and woman killed the mans deaf, mute, and blind sister and the elderly man....
these people are humanity at its worst!
MetalHybrid 06-16-2005, 01:21 AM Adam Emory, what a scumbag. :mad:
I was swearing at him throughout this episode.
Did you find his wife to be equally dispicable?
compulsive dvd 06-16-2005, 02:23 AM Just saw one today about a con artist that did a pigeon drop on an elderly Lithuanian woman. I felt terrible for her. Thank goodness they caught the con artist.
There was also a man who was abusing his wife's son. They showed the pictures with the kid's eyes blacked out to protect his identity. The woman actually caught him doing it I think.
Nelson DeCloud is a good one. It's amazing the people who will follow a man committing adultery with underage girls.
jeeps 06-16-2005, 09:50 AM It's amazing the people who will follow a man committing adultery with underage girls.
Almost as shocking as people following a 46 year-old man who has boys sleeping in his bed.
jeeps
U.M. Fanatic 06-16-2005, 01:14 PM Did you find his wife to be equally dispicable?
Yes. The whole episode was anger inducing. :mad:
MetalHybrid 06-16-2005, 06:28 PM I guess the whole thing with people following DeCloud around was probably something to do with compensation. They believed in him so much simply becuase they didn't believe in themselves. Think of the Reggie DePalma case. His girlfriend knew he was molesting girls but belived in him so much that she could not bring herself to turn him in.
I think I could add the preppie rapist Alex Kelly to the list of filth. If he was so innocent of the rape charges why did he take off to Europe for eigth years? He was guilty. And arrogant to match.
Trent Stephen Fouts. He was the lowlife who tortured and killed a toddler named Joshua Massengill. The victim was murdered in January of 1997, and Fouts went out on the run. :mad:
Fortunately, he was soon featured in a "special bulletin" segment of UM, and he was quickly captured. Although more than 200 UM cases had been solved before 1997, Fouts' arrest marked the 150th capture for the show. He was later convicted of Massengill's murder, and was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.
The killing was so horrific, that I strongly feel that this scumbag should have received the death penalty. :mad:
Composite Sketch 06-18-2005, 02:38 AM Just saw one today about a con artist that did a pigeon drop on an elderly Lithuanian woman. I felt terrible for her. Thank goodness they caught the con artist.
Did they catch him???? I remember WAAAAY back to when that segment originally aired. I think it was around Christmastime 1991 or 1992. The victim's face was scrambled to hide her identity, and because of the weirdness of it (to me) I couldn't sleep that night. Can you provide some details about the capture? Date? Guy's name?
Some nominations. My mentality has me more disgusted with those that are still at large or were unresolved in my view:
-The Boston shopping-mall rapist. The guy was never caught and he seems to be forgotten. It's despicable.
-The Bike Path killer. He's still out there.
-The Mexican lady who was hired as a nanny to a blind judge and then cleaned him out. I was disgusted at the update because she was caught but the judge died soon after and the prosecution thought that without him they wouldn't have a strong enough case, so the charges were dropped.
-Robert Fisher, the Arizona man who murdered his family and then blew up his house. He personifies evil.
U.M. Fanatic 06-18-2005, 03:14 PM Another one that disgusts me is James Burnside, who murdered his wife Annette. When he looked into his young daughter's eyes, when she asked him if he would ever kill her, and told her yes I would, you just wanted to beat the heck out of him. :mad:
To tell your young daughter that, is despicable; what James put his wife through was also gut wrenching. It's also sad to know that this kind of thing goes on all the time in this country.
dynoguy88 06-18-2005, 03:34 PM Another one that disgusts me is James Burnside, who murdered his wife Annette. When he looked into his young daughter's eyes, when she asked him if he would ever kill her, and told her yes I would, you just wanted to beat the heck out of him. :mad:
Augh!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Yes, that guy was pure evil. What made this case even more sad was the fact that Annette had absolutely no chance to have a normal life. For most of the marriage, she only stayed with him because she knew he would either kill her or kill her family. Then when she finally had the guts to leave him, there was nothing the police could do to protect her until the psycho actually did something. A case that makes you sad AND angry at the same time.
MetalHybrid 06-18-2005, 07:14 PM Augh!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Yes, that guy was pure evil. What made this case even more sad was the fact that Annette had absolutely no chance to have a normal life. For most of the marriage, she only stayed with him because she knew he would either kill her or kill her family. Then when she finally had the guts to leave him, there was nothing the police could do to protect her until the psycho actually did something. A case that makes you sad AND angry at the same time.
Yeah, James Burnside. He could easily gain a slot in the hall of hell. Just like every other wife abuser type. Paul Stamper, Michael McGuffey, The guy named Russel who shot at his 19-year old ex from his car, None of these people deserev anything other than hell. It is near Impossible to see an AMW broadcast that does not profile at least one of these kinds of individuals.
compulsive dvd 06-19-2005, 02:52 AM [QUOTE=Composite Sketch]Did they catch him???? I remember WAAAAY back to when that segment originally aired. I think it was around Christmastime 1991 or 1992. The victim's face was scrambled to hide her identity, and because of the weirdness of it (to me) I couldn't sleep that night. Can you provide some details about the capture? Date? Guy's name?
Yeah, it was the same one to which you're referring. The lady's face was disguised using the mosaic effect, but if you blur your eyes or stand far away, you can really tell what the person looks like.
It was a woman who did the con. They told who she was and when she was caught. I don't remember the specifics. She was probably wanted in several areas for the cons.
Composite Sketch 06-19-2005, 04:09 PM Yeah, after I posted that I thought about it some more and recalled that the con artist was a woman. I recall the re-enactment actress being a woman with long light brown hair and who was VERY convincing in her story. I'll never forget how the victim went to the parking lot and the woman, her car, and the money were all gone.
rerungirl 06-19-2005, 04:15 PM This case has been profiled on both UM and America's Most Wanted. The guy I'm thinking of married a much younger woman (that he had originally passed off as his daughter). While she was married to him, she had a son but dna tests revealed her husband was not the boy's father. The woman later died in a mysterious hit and run accident and the little boy went to live with a foster family. Then, a year or so later, the boy was abducted and has never been found.
This case is very disturbing to me on so many levels. I'm sorry I can't remember the creeps name. Maybe somebody knows more about this case and knows if there have been any updates.
dynoguy88 06-20-2005, 03:00 PM JESSE JAMES HOLLYWOOD - It wasn't good enough for him that he was blessed to grow up with a family and a happy childhood, plenty of money and endless opportunities - yet he still just HAD to become a "street wise" wannabe drug dealer living it up off his drug deal earnings. At the mature age of 20, he organizes the killing of a 15 year old boy after he learns that (duh!) kidnapping can bring you serious jail time. :mad: idiot. I just saw this segment for the first time 5 months ago and I felt sick to my stomach after I saw it. Thank GOD he is in jail now where he belongs. (If only they could arrest his father as well.)
SANDRA AND MARVIN MAPLE - Wow. Where do I even begin with the Maples? Was it really worth it in the end? To tell a judge a whole bunch of lies about your own daughter (YOUR OWN DAUGHTER!) so you can gain control of your grandchildren, tell them to lie to police investigators, and leave everyone and everything behind so you can spend the rest of your life on the run with your kidnapped grandkids. What the H*LL were they thinking?!? :mad: How can you do that to your family much less your own daughter? ***sigh*** :( But what makes me sad as well as mad is that they have been successfully able to hide from police and the FBI for 15 years now. That's 15 years that Mark and Debbie Baskin have missed out on seeing 2 of their 3 kids grow up. It's just so heartless. I can only imagine the number of horrible lies that the Maples have filled Kristi and Bobby's heads with for so many years. Their grandparents have manipulated them so much that they probably have no intention of ever WANTING to see their parents again not knowing the actual truth.
Those 2 cases I feel the most passionate about. Although I completely agree with everyone's comments about that psycho Nelson DeCloud. Thank GOD he got what was coming to him. If only the same thing could happen to the Maples. :( I guess you can always hope.
mercy1825 06-20-2005, 07:35 PM I would have to say the two teenage "thrill-killers" in the mid-west or south. Their senseless crimes were filled with such wanton brutality......
And think, they are probably both free men now, on to commit more murders and we will never know their names.
crystaldawn 06-20-2005, 08:47 PM Well actually they were caught and sentenced to life. So hopefully they will never see the light of day. Talk about ideal candidates for the death penalty.
I would have to say the two teenage "thrill-killers" in the mid-west or south. Their senseless crimes were filled with such wanton brutality......
And think, they are probably both free men now, on to commit more murders and we will never know their names.
Actually, they were sentenced to life in prison, but it said in the UM update that they would be eligible for parole in the year 2020, when they will have served 30 years (they were sentenced in 1990). Hopefully, the parole board will have the good sense to deny them parole, and that their only way out of prison is in a casket.
Besides, Texas (where some of their crimes took place) is known to be a conservative state, and if they had been sentenced to death, there's a good chance that they would have already been executed.
MetalHybrid 06-21-2005, 04:53 PM Another appaling case is that of how Frederick Russel, in spite of all the evidence to show that he drove drunk and caused three deaths in that car crash, was able to be let out becuase his father Greg, who had connections to the local justices, was able to smooth-talk the local judges into letting him go.
Has this case been talked about on this board anywhere before?
crystaldawn 06-21-2005, 05:05 PM Yes, I posted a link to this article a while back. As far as I know he hasn't been caught.
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/8272138.htm
Another person to add to this thread would be the person(s) responsible for the deaths of Jay Cook and Tonya Van Cuylonborg. Remember they are the young couple who took a ferry only to be brutally murdered shortly after. The killer sent morbid greeting cards to the families on the holidays after detailing their murders. I wonder if they have ever been caught.
U.M. Fanatic 06-21-2005, 07:07 PM Yes, I posted a link to this article a while back. As far as I know he hasn't been caught.
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/8272138.htm
Another person to add to this thread would be the person(s) responsible for the deaths of Jay Cook and Tonya Van Cuylonborg. Remember they are the young couple who took a ferry only to be brutally murdered shortly after. The killer sent morbid greeting cards to the families on the holidays after detailing their murders. I wonder if they have ever been caught.
Totally agree with you on this one. Their deaths were morbid enough, then to send the families greeting cards is :mad:
Awsi Dooger 06-21-2005, 07:36 PM Another person to add to this thread would be the person(s) responsible for the deaths of Jay Cook and Tonya Van Cuylonborg. Remember they are the young couple who took a ferry only to be brutally murdered shortly after. The killer sent morbid greeting cards to the families on the holidays after detailing their murders. I wonder if they have ever been caught.
Yes, another sad and tragic case. I thought about that case three weeks ago when I was in Victoria, B.C. during my last stop on an Alaskan cruise aboard the Norwegian Star. The young couple was from a little town outside of Victoria and began their illfated journey on a ferry leaving from Victoria.
That case has never been officially solved, to the best of my knowledge. The reported suspects were two different serial killers, Robert Yates and Charles Sinclair. When I researched them briefly a couple of years ago, Yates didn't seem to fit. He preferred to kill prostitutes, and if you look at his picture the rough appearance didn't seem to fit the profile of someone a young couple would trust, if we are to accept the version on Unsolved Mysteries of how Tonya and Jay met their murderer.
Sinclair seemed much more plausible. He was the infamous coin shop killer who killed primarily for money, pretending to be interested in coin purchases and convincing the coin dealers to open early or remain open later than normal so he could confront and kill them while they were alone. Remember, Tonya and Jay were on a shopping chore for his father and carrying more than $500, info they might have let innocently slip.
Sinclair was known to have killed one elderly couple in the Seattle area, where Tonya and Jay were murdered, plus he is suspected of killing another couple in Montana, if I remember correctly. A guy who was smooth enough to talk to coin dealers would probably be able to put a young couple at ease. Plus, the elderly couple who Sinclair is known to have killed (via using their credit card later) in '86, also bought a ferry ticket before disappearing, so Sinclair might have merely pulled the same practiced method on Tonya and Jay a year later.
Still, if Sinclair was the murderer it should have been verified by now. Tonya was raped. Sinclair died in jail in Alaska in 1990. You would assume they saved his DNA sample since he was suspected in many murders.
Also, as you point out crystaldawn, the murderer of Tonya and Jay sent taunting letters and cards to the families. They came from several states which could fit Sinclair since he traveled extensively, mostly in the west and southwest along with Alaska. I wonder if the postmarks fit areas Sinclair was known to travel? Also the handwriting could be evaluated. Since Sinclair died only 3 years after the murders of Tonya and Jay, he would be eliminated as a suspect if the verified letters from their murderer(s) continued beyond that point.
Extremely frustrating that basic info like that is not available to us.
Another appaling case is that of how Frederick Russel, in spite of all the evidence to show that he drove drunk and caused three deaths in that car crash, was able to be let out becuase his father Greg, who had connections to the local justices, was able to smooth-talk the local judges into letting him go.
Has this case been talked about on this board anywhere before?
Yes. In fact, last year, I posted a message after finding a link about a woman named Bernadette Olson. In 2004, Olson, a criminal justice professor, was accused of helping Frederick Russell flee to Canada. She was found guilty, and sentenced to six months in federal prison, plus three years of supervised community service.
Frederick Russell has also been featured on America's Most Wanted. Once there is news about his potential capture, the AMW site will know it. (If you go to their site, you will notice that when a profiled fugitive is caught, they put the word "Captured" on the photo.)
I'm angry that Frederick Russell's father helped him get out. He should be arrested for helping him flee. :mad:
U.M. Fanatic 07-14-2005, 07:42 PM SANDRA AND MARVIN MAPLE - Wow. Where do I even begin with the Maples? Was it really worth it in the end? To tell a judge a whole bunch of lies about your own daughter (YOUR OWN DAUGHTER!) so you can gain control of your grandchildren, tell them to lie to police investigators, and leave everyone and everything behind so you can spend the rest of your life on the run with your kidnapped grandkids. What the H*LL were they thinking?!? :mad: How can you do that to your family much less your own daughter? ***sigh*** :( But what makes me sad as well as mad is that they have been successfully able to hide from police and the FBI for 15 years now. That's 15 years that Mark and Debbie Baskin have missed out on seeing 2 of their 3 kids grow up. It's just so heartless. I can only imagine the number of horrible lies that the Maples have filled Kristi and Bobby's heads with for so many years. Their grandparents have manipulated them so much that they probably have no intention of ever WANTING to see their parents again not knowing the actual truth.
:yeahthat
Just watched this one today. What utter scumbags the Maples are. :mad:
I agree dynoguy, parents who would do this to their own daughter have no place in our society. I dont even want to think about the lies the Maples have filled the childrens heads with. I can only hope and pray that the Baskins find their children soon.
DarkDante 07-14-2005, 08:15 PM was married to Bill Day and they had a son Christophe. Betty kidnapped him after they divorced and moved with him to France. Bill Day spent the better part of ten years searching for his son and was never able to locate him. In 1999 Bill Day finally located his ex wife and learned Christophe had developed cancer and died a year earlier
Betty wins the "scum" award twice here
1) for the inital kidnapping and keeping Christophe away from his father
2) for when she learned her son was terminal and was going to die not even then did she make an attempt, she didn't have to turn herself in (although realistically that would have be a biproduct of it) she could have called Bill and informed him his son was dying so he could have at least had a chance to say goodbye to his own child. I understand why she didn't but that is a cold cold woman right there. I feel badly for Bill Day in the loss of his son and any torment Christophe suffered due to his disease - but for Betty in a strange and twisted sense of irony the loss of Christophe to cancer is in my mind a bit of poetic justice for her. The son she wanted to keep so badly from his father - she is no longer herself able to enjoy.
Later.
Composite Sketch 07-14-2005, 08:19 PM Besides, Texas (where some of their crimes took place) is known to be a conservative state, and if they had been sentenced to death, there's a good chance that they would have already been executed.
While the UM segment didn't mention this, I would guess that the two confessed their crimes in order to avoid the death penalty, and 'only' got life sentences without the possibility of parole for 30 years. It seems to be common practice.
I'm angry that Frederick Russell's father helped him get out. He should be arrested for helping him flee.
Remember when he tried to claim that the victims had drugs in their systems?
Remember when he tried to claim that the victims had drugs in their systems?
Unfortunately, I do.
Blame the victims, huh? Does Frederick Russell's father really think we're that stupid?! The father should be in jail for helping his son flee. I wish both the father and son ill. :mad:
MetalHybrid 07-16-2005, 12:53 AM Many of you have said that Stuart Heaton's prosecutor was a lowlife as well , even if you thoght little of Heaton. If Heaton is such filth than why is the his prosecutor, who put him behind bars, not among your favorites?
Yeah what Greg Russel did is gur-wrenching. That ever-so-righteous "my family member could NEVER be a criminal. The supposed victims must be the ones who are to blame so lets blame them instead" mentality is appalling, if there is any word that could describe such an atrocity. I can't understand how the families of people like rapists and killers go out of their way to defend such people. That is why Daniel Pineda's family sickened me so much. I hope they get what they deserve, just like he did. That whole family deserves to suffer for perpetuating that poor girl's nightmare. The sooner some of these people admit that a faimly member has commited a heinous crime and deserves the penalties, the better.
drtom1966 07-22-2005, 11:17 PM I had thankfully forgotten about this miscreant until watching my new "Bizarre Murders" DVD set the other day. For those of you who don't remember him, he's the untermensch who exposed himself to a bunch of boys playing one day in a Texas town. When ex-Marine Larry Dickens attempted to apprehend him, Bell shot Dickens several times, then finally killed Dickens with a shotgun blast, even as Dickens' mother and sister watched helplessly. Amazingly, after Bell was captured in Panama and extradited to Texas to stand trial, he only received a 70-year sentence! So much for "Texas Justice" in this case...
On the same disc was the segment about the "Colorado Cop Killers," the three extremists who stole a water truck and then waged war with automatic weapons on law enforcement officers who tried to stop them.
I had thankfully forgotten about this miscreant until watching my new "Bizarre Murders" DVD set the other day. For those of you who don't remember him, he's the untermensch who exposed himself to a bunch of boys playing one day in a Texas town. When ex-Marine Larry Dickens attempted to apprehend him, Bell shot Dickens several times, then finally killed Dickens with a shotgun blast, even as Dickens' mother and sister watched helplessly. Amazingly, after Bell was captured in Panama and extradited to Texas to stand trial, he only received a 70-year sentence! So much for "Texas Justice" in this case...
Well, if you take Bell's age into account, you will see that with a 70-year prison sentence, he's practically doing a life sentence. I recall that he was 53 years old at the time UM profiled in December of 1992, and when he was quickly caught. He would be past the age of 120 at the end of his prison sentence, even though it's extremely probable that he won't live that long. So chances are very high that he will let out of jail posthumously.
Admittedly, even the Texas justice system is not devoid of flaws. Look no further than Kenneth McDuff. The notoriety of that killer brought about some necessary changes to the judicial system in the Lone Star state.
drtom1966 07-25-2005, 07:32 PM Fair enough. Good observations all, Kane. However, I would hope that someone guilty of the kind of heinous crime that Bell committed would be executed -- especially if he committed it in Texas! He murdered Larry Dickens in cold blood.
As then-Governor George W. Bush famously once said in response to a question regarding the Karla Faye Tucker case, "If you're going to kill somebody, don't do it in Texas -- unless you're willing to be put to death" (or something to that effect).
OriginalNightstalker 07-28-2005, 10:11 PM The stalker/murderer in the Cindy James case. No way that was suicide.
The thug in the Whaecker? case.
SP4CE INV4DERZ 07-30-2005, 11:09 AM What about that poor guy in prison in a Final Appeal case who swears it was his twin brother. I can't remember his name or what he is in prison for but I do remember thinking this poor guy is in prison for something that his twin did. He was a black guy from memory... :(
MetalHybrid 07-30-2005, 03:37 PM What about that poor guy in prison in a Final Appeal case who swears it was his twin brother. I can't remember his name or what he is in prison for but I do remember thinking this poor guy is in prison for something that his twin did. He was a black guy from memory... :(
His name is Fredrick Young, and he claims that his brother Cedrick Young is the real culprit.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 06-13-2008, 01:03 AM Did you find his wife to be equally dispicable?
In some ways that bit¢h was worse. Her egging him on drove him to it. They were both fricking crazy! So sorry they don't know what happened to him.
Cori aka ChrisSCrush 06-13-2008, 01:16 AM Another person to add to this thread would be the person(s) responsible for the deaths of Jay Cook and Tonya Van Cuylonborg. Remember they are the young couple who took a ferry only to be brutally murdered shortly after. The killer sent morbid greeting cards to the families on the holidays after detailing their murders. I wonder if they have ever been caught.
Yes, anyone who kills innocent people, especially strangers, but this one really stands out from torturing the families for years. There was also that guy who tortured Amy Billig's mother for 22 years with phone calls falsely claiming knowledge of Amy. Also, the guy thought to be responsible for at least two kidnappings featured on Unsolved Mysteries, who went to the little girl's house afterwards and offered to help her mother find her.
Chad Noe and his family still win the prize for real pieces of work, though. So brazen they didn't even care that they seemed unconcerned for their victims or unconvincing in their lies.
VikingsGal 02-13-2009, 01:22 PM Adam Emory, what a scumbag. :mad:
I was swearing at him throughout this episode.
This episode was just on and both Adam and his wife were both annoying. Hunting down people and being vigilantes is just wrong, plus it was the wrong guy they shot! Not that shooting the "right" guy would be any better.
Elena Emory was just as much to blame of she was encouraging Adam to "go after them!!" It is like, what is whith this Alpha male behavior? "They disrespected me!" Whatever - just get each other's insurance money and call it a day. But no.
cuba_libre 02-13-2009, 03:39 PM Any and all those criminals who victimize children! Those are the most gut-wrenching!
kadrmas15 02-13-2009, 08:29 PM To be honest, I think Adam Emory is probably dead. However I do find it unusual that his wife's body was found but his was not. So i guess it could be possible he skipped out and went out on the run. If he did that than not only is he a killer of an innocent young man but he is also a man that allowed his wife to jump to her death under the impression there was a 'suicide pact' and then he used this assuming everyone would believe him dead so he could start a new life. I am not sure if this is even still allowed in Rhode Island but at the time of Emory's going missing, he was actually a man who had just been convicted of 2nd degree murder and was facing a 20 years to life prison sentence. However because it was a non first degree murder case the judge allowed him to remain free pending sentencing as I believe at that time in RI you could still post appeal bond for any case that was not a first degree murder case.
While it is true that Edward Harold Bell was sentenced to 70 years in prison, in fact he was convicted of 'murder' which under Texas law appears to be the equal to 2nd degree murder in other states. It has a very open ended sentencing statute where you can get sentenced from anywhere from probation to up to 99 years in prison. Also juries not judges decide the sentence, the judge is just the one that formally orders it but in cases like this the judge has virtually no power in deciding a sentence. According to Texas law in effect in 1978 when the crime was committed, Bell will not serve anywhere near 70 years.
In fact, up until the mid 90's, Texas had 'mandatory supervision' laws which actually required the release of any inmate serving a non life sentence after they had served a certain percentage of their sentence. To that end, Bell will be eligible for parole in 2013 after having served 20 years and his mandatory release date is set for 2023 when he will be in his early 80's. My guess is that Larry Dickens was not the only person that Bell has killed and in fact I believe Bell is a suspect in numerous murders that took place in Texas in the mid to late 70's, including a serious suspect in 5 or 6 cases although he has never been charged in any of them.
atomicfizz 02-14-2009, 01:31 AM This case has been profiled on both UM and America's Most Wanted. The guy I'm thinking of married a much younger woman (that he had originally passed off as his daughter). While she was married to him, she had a son but dna tests revealed her husband was not the boy's father. The woman later died in a mysterious hit and run accident and the little boy went to live with a foster family. Then, a year or so later, the boy was abducted and has never been found.
This case is very disturbing to me on so many levels. I'm sorry I can't remember the creeps name. Maybe somebody knows more about this case and knows if there have been any updates.
Franklin Delano Floyd. There have been no updates but that little boy is 20 now! Wow!
alfiechat 02-14-2009, 08:26 AM I am not familiar with this case. Can someone point me to particulars?
crystaldawn 02-14-2009, 08:45 AM I am not familiar with this case. Can someone point me to particulars?
He's the man who raped his ex-girlfriend Nanette Brana. I believe she was a teenager and had been dating him but broke up with him and told him maybe they could get back together when she was older. After she dumped him he started stalking her if I recall correctly and one day as she was walking home forced her into the woods and raped her. He denied it and went on the run from the police and his family had the nerve to harass Nanette and her family claiming she was lying. He was found eventually, I'm thinking it may have been in Puerto Rico but I'm not positive. Not sure if he got a prison term or not.
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