This has nothing to do with Scientology. This has to do with his ignorance.



Cruise Slams Shields' Drug Use
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/51/45/38s.jpg Tom Cruise (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/) has criticized Hollywood pal Brooke Shields (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000222/)' "misguided" use of the anti-depressant Paxil, while declaring the actress' career as over. In an interview with Billy Bush (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1129362/) on TV show Access Hollywood (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167515/), to be screened on Thursday, Cruise speaks of his disappointment to learn Shields used Paxil to fight post-natal depression following the birth of her daughter Rowan. Shields is currently weaning herself off her medication so she and husband Chris Henchy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0376260/) can have another child. Cruise, who claims to have helped people fight drug addictions through his controversial Scientology religion, says the Suddenly Susan (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115376/) actress should have used vitamins to help her feelings of despair. Cruise says, "Here is a woman, and I care about Brooke Shields (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000222/) because I think she is an incredibly talented woman. You look at, where has her career gone?" Despite the Minority Report (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/) actor's declaration her career is over, Shields is currently receiving rave reviews playing murderess Roxie Hart in the London theatre production of Chicago. Cruise maintains, "These drugs are dangerous. I have actually helped people come off. When you talk about postpartum, you can take people today, women, and what you do is you use vitamins. There is a hormonal thing that is going on, scientifically, you can prove that. But when you talk about emotional, chemical imbalances in people, there is no science behind that. You can use vitamins to help a woman through those things."




First of all...who cares where her career is going?? Just because he's so humg up on work doesn't mean everyone has to be. Maybe she likes doing stage work, or GOD FORBID, staying home with her child. Does Tom even care where his kids are?

Second...WTFH does he know about Paxil???? Huh? Sure, it can be dangerous if you stop it cold turkey or give it to kids, but is she doing either??? NO. And this genius statement: But when you talk about emotional, chemical imbalances in people, there is no science behind that. You can use vitamins to help a woman through those things. A chemical imbalance isn't scientific. Hmm. Did this man go to High School? THERE IS PLENTY OF SCIENCE BEHIND THAT, YOU IGNORANT FOOL. No, some kid discovered Paxil in his backyard while playing with pop rocks. :rolleyes: Paxil is 100% better than vitamins; I know, I'm on it. And it has helped me out imensely. No vitamin, which actually hasn't been proven 100%, without a doubt to work fully against moderate to severe mental/emotional disorders, is gonna help. Can a vitamin make the cells in your brain stop taking the seretonin it sends back in?? That's the SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN reason behind many cases of depression and anxiety.

What a worthless *******.

That pisses me off. He has no idea what she went through. If anything she was responsible to have medication for her mental condition. Stop trying to sound like a smartass Cruise. :rolleyes:

Scientology is a bunch of BS. It was created by a Science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. I can't believe a majority of Hollywood follows that crap.

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Has he ever had chronic depression - or post natal depression? I always loved you, but shut up Tom. :mad:

:rolleyes: does he think he's some kind of psychiatrist? he doesn't know the FIRST thing about depression, chemical imbalances or prescription drugs. he's never been a depressed woman trying out vitamins and drugs to see which worked best. if vitamins were all it took to treat it, antidepressants wouldn't exist. my god, he is stupid.

Hey, he might be an idiot, but when you're an idiot with an ass like that, you can be as big an idiot as you want to be!

He needs to read a story called "The Yellow Wallpaper."

And a biology book.

He needs to read a story called "The Yellow Wallpaper."

And a biology book.


Exactly!! It's people like him that still treat mental illness as if something invades your body and its just mind over matter or vitamins to get rid of it. Get real Tom!! If it weren't for Prozac ten years ago I probably wouldn't be here right now you f&%#ing idiot!! :mad:

Second...WTFH does he know about Paxil???? Huh? Sure, it can be dangerous if you stop it cold turkey or give it to kids, but is she doing either??? NO. And this genius statement: But when you talk about emotional, chemical imbalances in people, there is no science behind that. You can use vitamins to help a woman through those things. A chemical imbalance isn't scientific. Hmm. Did this man go to High School? THERE IS PLENTY OF SCIENCE BEHIND THAT, YOU IGNORANT FOOL. No, some kid discovered Paxil in his backyard while playing with pop rocks. :rolleyes: Paxil is 100% better than vitamins; I know, I'm on it. And it has helped me out imensely. No vitamin, which actually hasn't been proven 100%, without a doubt to work fully against moderate to severe mental/emotional disorders, is gonna help. Can a vitamin make the cells in your brain stop taking the seretonin it sends back in?? That's the SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN reason behind many cases of depression and anxiety.
yeah, i used to be addicted to paxil and had to wean off it because it was so dangerous. i tried to quit cold turkey once and the whole day i was crying and wanting to kill myself. a study also confirmed that patients under 18 taking paxil have an increased risk of suicide (i was 13). i'm on lexapro now but i'm going to wean off it soon becaise i might not need antidepressants anymore. i don't even know whether they helped me because i've been taking them too long to notice a difference. regardless, vitamins are for nutrition and DO NOT affect chemical imbalances in the brain. :rolleyes:

Exactly!! It's people like him that still treat mental illness as if something invades your body and its just mind over matter or vitamins to get rid of it. Get real Tom!! If it weren't for Prozac ten years ago I probably wouldn't be here right now you f&%#ing idiot!! :mad:

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I hope if his daughter ever gets depressed, she talks to her mother about it instead of her father.

He needs to read a story called "The Yellow Wallpaper."

And a biology book.

I should have said an anatomy book instead of biology, but it looks like he could benefit from both. And read some literature on some of our fine drugs, like Paxil, Prozac, Lexapro, etc.

I should have said an anatomy book instead of biology, but it looks like he could benefit from both. And read some literature on some of our fine drugs, like Paxil, Prozac, Lexapro, etc.


You're right on both - since many illnesses are caused by chemical imbalances, that would fall under biology I think. I guess he also thinks that Epilepsy is the devil entering a person's body. And I thought this guy was intelligent Geez! :rolleyes:

Ya know...it's ignorant and asanine statements like that that make people with depression feel worse about themselves. I mean to say it's not a chemical imbalance, that vitamins will work...WTF...he sounds like my grandmother.

I've had many...um..."discussions" with her telling her that vitamins wouldn't have done for **** for me and if it wasn't for the meds I'd be dead right now (she never knew I was suicidal) Talk about a shocker for her.

I really hope somebody sets him straight and tells him to keep his mouth shut for stuff he has no idea about...no matter how cute his ass is.

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I can't stand people who make stupid statement about something their too stupid to understand. Tom Cruise is a Major League *******!

Hey, he may be an idiot, but it sounds like he really cares about her and sincerely believes that Paxil is not the thing for her.

Also, try as I may, I can't see how his sentence indicates he's saying anything negative about her career. Maybe it's because I haven't heard him say it, so it loses something in the text translation.

Either way, I'm not sure he deserves to go to hell for being an idiot conserned about a friend.

What a worthless *******.

Why don't you send The Nuns to have a little talk with him. I want to see them in action! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I have to take Paxil myself. :(

What bugs me about the Tomster is that he has to go on Oprah to not to promote his latest movie, but to promote- his new girlfriend! Yeah Tom, we know you've scored with a young chick; we're really proud of you. We've seen all the magazine covers and heard all the sound bites on Access Hollywood.

Nothing like a little advanced publicity before your big summer movie comes out.
;)

He needs to read a story called "The Yellow Wallpaper."

And a biology book.

"The Yellow Wallpaper" was a great story. Tom Cruise really does suck. I prefer to think of him during his Top Gun days, when I'm pretty sure he wasn't into this cult crap.

What bugs me about the Tomster is that he has to go on Oprah to not to promote his latest movie, but to promote- his new girlfriend! Yeah Tom, we know you've scored with a young chick; we're really proud of you. We've seen all the magazine covers and heard all the sound bites on Access Hollywood.

Nothing like a little advanced publicity before your big summer movie comes out.
;)

I saw that on Oprah. Way to go Cruise, for letting us all in on your mid life crisis. :rolleyes:

What bugs me about the Tomster is that he has to go on Oprah to not to promote his latest movie, but to promote- his new girlfriend! Yeah Tom, we know you've scored with a young chick; we're really proud of you. We've seen all the magazine covers and heard all the sound bites on Access Hollywood.

Nothing like a little advanced publicity before your big summer movie comes out.
;)

SHe is just his latest 'beard'.

ohno: ohno:

I think he meant that people should try to talk things out and analyze the problem more instead of jumping on the "anti-depressant" bandwagon. Yes, some people need it to cope but some people use it as a crutch. You can take all the medicine you want but without proper therapy it really doesn't do any good.

In my experience, too many people think that a pill can solve all their problems. Therapy and medication go hand and hand and are more effective together than alone. If she's struggling in therapy then the success rate will be minimal.

Cruise is a nice guy and I doubt he was being an "ass" on purpose. If he thinks it's not helping her then he's probably right. Obviously, the vitamin theory doesn't hold weight but it seems like his heart was in the right place.

remember that Tom Cruise is a person who sues anybody who even alludes that he might be gay for $100 million. He is hardly issue-free enough to go on the attack for Shields like he did.

Anyways, I don't think Tom is THAT great of an actor, he's been more hype than actual product IMO. I've liked a few of his movies but I hardly see the insanity people go through over his presence.

I hope Katie Holmes dumps that dingleberry

SHe is just his latest 'beard'.

Yeah, maybe all the publicity when he gets a new girlfriend (remember when he was dating Penelope Cruz?) is overcompensation because of all the rumors about his sexuality.

What bugs me about the Tomster is that he has to go on Oprah to not to promote his latest movie, but to promote- his new girlfriend! Yeah Tom, we know you've scored with a young chick; we're really proud of you. We've seen all the magazine covers and heard all the sound bites on Access Hollywood.

Nothing like a little advanced publicity before your big summer movie comes out.
;)

LMAO I know I was like WTH???? Yet Teri Hatcher gets flack for dating a younger guy? :rolleyes:


I do think Tom is truly concerned about Brooke, and just stuck his foot in his mouth, which alot of us do at times ;)

Why don't you send The Nuns to have a little talk with him. I want to see them in action! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

They're on their way. :D

I saw that on Oprah. Way to go Cruise, for letting us all in on your mid life crisis. :rolleyes:

HA!

I guess I wouldn't be so pissed off about it if he sounded like he'd actually read up on the subject. But apparently Scientology doesn't believe in psychiatry or counceling, etc, so it's not like he was gonna tell her to see a shrink. He just sounded like he was blowing hot air toward someone who didn't deserve it.

They're on their way. :D

Yeah, finally!:woohoo:

He should hide his ignorance and simply promote his crappy movies like a good little monkey.

Tom Cruise has declared a public war on psychiatrists because he fears the "pseudo-science" has led to a drug-fuelled crisis for today's children. The movie hunk was diagnosed as dyslexic when he was just seven, and doctors suggested he should take drugs to control his learning problems. Memories of that part of his childhood fuelled Cruise to seek alternative ways of overcoming his dyslexia - a problem that led him to the Church of Scientology's educational programs. Becoming a scientologist in 1984 made the actor look closely at the controversial religion's anti-psychiatry stance, and he has since become a firm believer that the science and the medicating of children is wrong. Speaking exclusively to US news show Access Hollywood as part of a week-long special about his scientology beliefs, the movie hunk declares, "I'm going right after psychiatry and these false labels and this pseudo-science. I was diagnosed as dyslexic; I had a lot of energy as a child. They wanted to put me on drugs... Never did; my mother said no, absolutely not, no way and I'm thankful. Had I been put on those drugs, I never would be here today... I never would have had the career that I'm having. Am I making people aware of it by discussing it openly and saying what a fraud psychiatry is? You bet I am. I feel a responsibility because I care..." The actor also maintains that poor results in education in America can be blamed on mind-altering drugs that are given to children. He adds, "SAT (exam) scores have gone right down the toilet. The parents are blaming the teachers, the teachers are blaming the parents and the psychs are putting everyone on drugs."
:rolleyes: Tom just shut up and promote your dumbass movies.

I think he meant that people should try to talk things out and analyze the problem more instead of jumping on the "anti-depressant" bandwagon. Yes, some people need it to cope but some people use it as a crutch. You can take all the medicine you want but without proper therapy it really doesn't do any good.

In my experience, too many people think that a pill can solve all their problems. Therapy and medication go hand and hand and are more effective together than alone. If she's struggling in therapy then the success rate will be minimal.

Cruise is a nice guy and I doubt he was being an "ass" on purpose. If he thinks it's not helping her then he's probably right. Obviously, the vitamin theory doesn't hold weight but it seems like his heart was in the right place.

I do agree that if you are to be put on antidepressants it should be combined with therapy. When I was put on Prozac, I had to go for two sessions a week and then it was reduced to one per week after about 9 months and I was out of the "critical" stage. I then continued the meds and therapy for about another 8 months and then was weaned off both.
I don't think it would have helped the same if I hadn't been getting therapy as well, or therapy on its own (as I had tried previously). It allowed the "chatter" in my head to calm down so that I could think more clearly and reasonably and process the therapy that was given to me.
It didn't change my personality as many people think it does. These drugs are not the tranquilizers that were given out in the 60s & 70s and I think a lot of people mistake them for the same kind of drug.
My husband was like Tom and was against them when I started the treatment, but afterwards he did concede that weren't the same and did help.

I don't think they should just be given out by family doctors however. They really should be used in combo with therapy. I've been off the drugs for 9 years now but still use the "coping" skills I learned in therapy daily.

And yeah, I don't think Tom meant anything bad by what he said in that interview - but he should listen to the other side as well. We should email him a link to this thread! ;)

Tom Cruise has declared a public war on psychiatrists because he fears the "pseudo-science" has led to a drug-fuelled crisis for today's children. The movie hunk was diagnosed as dyslexic when he was just seven, and doctors suggested he should take drugs to control his learning problems. Memories of that part of his childhood fuelled Cruise to seek alternative ways of overcoming his dyslexia - a problem that led him to the Church of Scientology's educational programs. Becoming a scientologist in 1984 made the actor look closely at the controversial religion's anti-psychiatry stance, and he has since become a firm believer that the science and the medicating of children is wrong. Speaking exclusively to US news show Access Hollywood as part of a week-long special about his scientology beliefs, the movie hunk declares, "I'm going right after psychiatry and these false labels and this pseudo-science. I was diagnosed as dyslexic; I had a lot of energy as a child. They wanted to put me on drugs... Never did; my mother said no, absolutely not, no way and I'm thankful. Had I been put on those drugs, I never would be here today... I never would have had the career that I'm having. Am I making people aware of it by discussing it openly and saying what a fraud psychiatry is? You bet I am. I feel a responsibility because I care..." The actor also maintains that poor results in education in America can be blamed on mind-altering drugs that are given to children. He adds, "SAT (exam) scores have gone right down the toilet. The parents are blaming the teachers, the teachers are blaming the parents and the psychs are putting everyone on drugs."
:rolleyes: Tom just shut up and promote your dumbass movies.

What?? Drugs would have stopped him from becoming a movie star?? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Lack of talent and ambition sounds more applicable. Nice that he (I guess) overcame dyslexia without drugs, but I doubt any drug would have like, made his brain blow up or something. :rolleyes:

Too bad Freud is dead...I'd like Cruise to tell Sigmund to his face what a "pseudo-science" Psychiatry is.

Am I making people aware of it by discussing it openly and saying what a fraud psychiatry is? You bet I am. I feel a responsibility because I care..."

Care about what?? Publicity? The fact that as a star, he has the power to make certain people do whatever he tells them just because he's a star?!


The actor also maintains that poor results in education in America can be blamed on mind-altering drugs that are given to children. He adds, "SAT (exam) scores have gone right down the toilet. The parents are blaming the teachers, the teachers are blaming the parents and the psychs are putting everyone on drugs."


Yo, brainiac...where's your proof??

He may be "concerned" about Brooke but if he makes judgements about an issue he knows nothing about, he sounds like a moron.

Thought I'd share...cuz it's funny and scary and sad all at the same time. QuickTime required to see the video.

http://www.tvgasm.com/archives/miscellaneous_tv/000829.php

I'm sorry for bumping this thread but I've been out of town again and just catching up here.

I read an article about Brooke's depression in Good Housekeeping and she didn't even want to go on anti-depressants because of her family's history of addiction. At least Brooke is aware that you can get hooked on these and she's taking steps to slowly stop taking them. So, Tom thought she should take vitamans for her depression??!! That's ridiculous!! I wonder he would still have this same attitude if she were to slam her car into a wall, like she had thought about doing before she went on the Paxil.

What an idiot. I saw Brooke Shields on Larry King Live a few weeks ago, and her story was positively heartbreaking. The medication was the only thing that got her out of the black abyss which imprisoned her. Cruise claims there's no science behind emotional and chemical imbalances in people...he has no idea what he's talking about.

I know people who have chemical imbalances which cause depression, manic-depression and other psychological disorders, and medication has saved their lives.

If Andrea Yates, the woman who drowned her five sons due to her post-partum depression, had taken her meds, those five brothers would be alive today.

I always liked Cruise, but I think he's way out of bounds getting on Shields. If he's worried about Brooke, he should have picked up the phone and expressed his concerns.

Where did he make these comments anyway?

When a person, such as an actor, starts promoting religion over the necessity of medicine, that gets dangerous. No wonder they call Scientology a cult. Tom Cruise should remember, if he lives in glass house, he'd better not throw breadcrumbs, because people can say the exact same thing about his questionable religion. If his religion works fine for him and his disabilities (didn't he have severe dyslexia? I've heard), then great, but he can't rag on anyone else like Brooke Shields for the choices she makes.

It was kind os uncomfortable watching him on Oprah alone, but the Billy Bush interview....man, I don't even think Billy Bush was comfortable either, in fact seemed a little irritated with him. The man has gone plain loopy!

well I for one believe that Mr Cruise has EARNED the right to jump up and down on Oprah's couch like a deranged monkey :)

Tom Cruise is ok as an actor, but I never liked him as a person or his Seintology beliefs. After reading thread I really believe he is a nut and a jerk. :rolleyes:

Where did he make these comments anyway?

In an interview he did on Access Hollywood.

What an idiot. I saw Brooke Shields on Larry King Live a few weeks ago, and her story was positively heartbreaking. The medication was the only thing that got her out of the black abyss which imprisoned her. Cruise claims there's no science behind emotional and chemical imbalances in people...he has no idea what he's talking about.

I know people who have chemical imbalances which cause depression, manic-depression and other psychological disorders, and medication has saved their lives.

If Andrea Yates, the woman who drowned her five sons due to her post-partum depression, had taken her meds, those five brothers would be alive today.

I always liked Cruise, but I think he's way out of bounds getting on Shields. If he's worried about Brooke, he should have picked up the phone and expressed his concerns.

Where did he make these comments anyway?


That's what I thought - if he's such a good friend - why is he saying this crap to the press instead of her in private? If anything, he's probably embarrassed her.

And you don't get addicted to anti-depressants - they don't change your mood like tranqs do - they're totally different.

I've always like Tom too, but I'd like to give him a smack upside the head for this one. I wouldn't be here right now probably if it weren't for Prozac - and I had tried other methods - nothing worked until I was on Prozac and getting therapy.

Tom Cruise is ok as an actor, but I never liked him as a person or his Seintology beliefs.

Ahh yes -- with the gospels of Kramer, George, Jerry, and Elaine.