I think a field trip is in order....

That area has not changed much since the time of Nyleen's disappearance, other than becoming more populated. If the picnic area is still there, I think it would be largely the same... guess I'll have to pop over and take some pictures to give everyone an idea of what I'm talking about. :)

I think a field trip is in order....

That area has not changed much since the time of Nyleen's disappearance, other than becoming more populated. If the picnic area is still there, I think it would be largely the same... guess I'll have to pop over and take some pictures to give everyone an idea of what I'm talking about. :)

Would you know where to find the place Nyleen was last seen? Where the adults were at? Where the children were at? And where they parked their cars? We could get a better idea on how someone would've been able to take Nyleen.

Would you know where to find the place Nyleen was last seen? Where the adults were at? Where the children were at? And where they parked their cars? We could get a better idea on how someone would've been able to take Nyleen.

I'm trying to figure all of that out. All I see thus far is that she disappeared from a picnic area near Clancy, MT in the Elkhorn Mountains.

A quick search shows about five of those. All in heavily wooded areas. I'll contact the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office to see if I can find out WHICH site it was...

And yes. If I can figure out which campsite/picnic area it was, I can make the trip. I'm super close to the area.

I'm trying to figure all of that out. All I see thus far is that she disappeared from a picnic area near Clancy, MT in the Elkhorn Mountains.

A quick search shows about five of those. All in heavily wooded areas. I'll contact the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office to see if I can find out WHICH site it was...

And yes. If I can figure out which campsite/picnic area it was, I can make the trip. I'm super close to the area.

The search-and-rescue lady didn't tell you? It was out in Maupin Creek. It's east to Clancy, Montana.

The search-and-rescue lady didn't tell you? It was out in Maupin Creek. It's east to Clancy, Montana.

Okay. With that added info, a cursory Google search tells me that they were most likely on the Maupin/Willard Creek Trail.

When the snow starts to melt more, I will definitely drive up and take some photos.

Regarding the Isotope test from the Racine County Jane Doe indicating she's been to Montana, I want to point out that Nyleen was NOT born in Montana. She was born in Orange County, California and may have still been living in said state in 1981 when she was 2 or 3. Both of Nyleen's biological parents were from California and her dad never left California as far as I'm concerned.

Regarding the Isotope test from the Racine County Jane Doe indicating she's been to Montana, I want to point out that Nyleen was NOT born in Montana. She was born in Orange County, California and may have still been living in said state in 1981 when she was 2 or 3. Both of Nyleen's biological parents were from California and her dad never left California as far as I'm concerned.

I'm slow and not sure of the connection of Racine County Jane Doe to Nyleen? Can you fill us in?

I'm slow and not sure of the connection of Racine County Jane Doe to Nyleen? Can you fill us in?

People, specifically ones on Reddit, have theorized that the Racine County Jane Doe could be Nyleen.

It was brought up on this forum in this thread (I will warn you that there is a disturbing image of the Jane Doe):
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=241068

Reddit threads where people think she could be Nyleen:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/4asfjg/nyleen_kay_marshall_as_a_possible_identity_for/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/328xu1/the_disappearance_of_nyleen_kay_marshall/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/5chdk0/a_missing_child_mystery_lasting_33_years_started/

Oh, I remember now. Thanks for the refresher.

Interesting coincidences, to say the least.

The pic in that thread is indeed creepy - I do commend the poster for his photoshop skills though. The big question that then raises for me is one of motive. The tone of the anonymous letter received after Nyleen disappeared was too upbeat. Whoever wrote it (the abductor?) mentioned how he was happy and she was happy and doing well.

Assuming that was actually true and this Jane Doe is Nyleen, why did she end up dead nearly 20 years after the fact? If whoever it was did intend to ultimately kill her, I would think they person or persons wouldn't allow so much time to pass before doing so (or that they would take more care in disposing of her remains)

*(I'm coming in at the tail end of this thread and haven't gone through those reddits yet)

The pic in that thread is indeed creepy - I do commend the poster for his photoshop skills though. The big question that then raises for me is one of motive. The tone of the anonymous letter received after Nyleen disappeared was too upbeat. Whoever wrote it (the abductor?) mentioned how he was happy and she was happy and doing well.

Well, he mentioned that he was happy and she was happy. But he also mentioned how he feeds her a spoon full of his semen every morning. Sorry for the graphic observation but the fact that he mentions it so nonchalantly in the letter in the same tone as all their happy vacations together is very disturbing.

In regards to the photo posted up above, it's disturbing but I'm not completely convinced. I think Nyleen might have had a common look to her, so to speak. A few years ago, someone in this thread found a random woman on Facebook who was a dead ringer for the age enhanced computer photograph of Nyleen. It was uncanny how much they looked alike.

In regards to the photo posted up above, it's disturbing but I'm not completely convinced. I think Nyleen might have had a common look to her, so to speak. A few years ago, someone in this thread found a random woman on Facebook who was a dead ringer for the age enhanced computer photograph of Nyleen. It was uncanny how much they looked alike.

Don't you mean the Myspace girl named "Kay"? The one who said something like "From your secret friend, Nyleen".

I wonder if law enforcement contacted her or if she knew through people from Websleuth contacting her.

Well, he mentioned that he was happy and she was happy. But he also mentioned how he feeds her a spoon full of his semen every morning. Sorry for the graphic observation but the fact that he mentions it so nonchalantly in the letter in the same tone as all their happy vacations together is very disturbing.

In regards to the photo posted up above, it's disturbing but I'm not completely convinced. I think Nyleen might have had a common look to her, so to speak. A few years ago, someone in this thread found a random woman on Facebook who was a dead ringer for the age enhanced computer photograph of Nyleen. It was uncanny how much they looked alike.

I'm in absolute agreement that the tone of the letter is definitely disturbing. In my mind though if the abductor was feeding her a spoon full of his semen every morning and thought nothing of it, then it's quite possible that he could've been undertaking other more disturbing acts with her - and it is that possibility that makes me question whether this Jane Doe would be her or not*

*(Only because I believe someone who would be undertaking such acts would lack the necessary self control to keep her alive for 16 years - in my opinion, the abductor would've either eventually 'snapped' or ending up committing some accident long before then)

Don't you mean the Myspace girl named "Kay"? The one who said something like "From your secret friend, Nyleen".

I wonder if law enforcement contacted her or if she knew through people from Websleuth contacting her.

That's right. It was Myspace, in the days when Myspace was starting to become extinct.

As I recall, someone did notify the center for missing and exploited children and they then contacted her. The woman sort of laughed it off that she was mistaken for a missing person. Still, the likeness to the photo was pretty amazing.


I'm in absolute agreement that the tone of the letter is definitely disturbing. In my mind though if the abductor was feeding her a spoon full of his semen every morning and thought nothing of it, then it's quite possible that he could've been undertaking other more disturbing acts with her - and it is that possibility that makes me question whether this Jane Doe would be her or not*

*(Only because I believe someone who would be undertaking such acts would lack the necessary self control to keep her alive for 16 years - in my opinion, the abductor would've either eventually 'snapped' or ending up committing some accident long before then)

I agree. It would be helpful if we could read the letter in its entirety. It was 3 pages long but UM only showed the majority of the first page and half of page three. There's a whole page in between that might have the kind of information that would be easier to get a read on this guy.

He made it a point to say he never told her what was in that spoon he was feeding her every morning, only that he gets it from the bathroom...and that he has never "molested" her in any other way. That shows some confliction on his part but just the act alone is enough to make you worry what other things could have unfolded over time or if, like you say, he might have just gotten rid of her when she became a burden.

Also, this man sent three total letters to Child Find of America over the course of six months. UM showed only the first one. It makes you wonder what info was in the other letters.

That's right. It was Myspace, in the days when Myspace was starting to become extinct.

As I recall, someone did notify the center for missing and exploited children and they then contacted her. The woman sort of laughed it off that she was mistaken for a missing person. Still, the likeness to the photo was pretty amazing.

They did? Did she bring up she was contacted by Missing & Exploited Children?

I agree. It would be helpful if we could read the letter in its entirety. It was 3 pages long but UM only showed the majority of the first page and half of page three. There's a whole page in between that might have the kind of information that would be easier to get a read on this guy.

He made it a point to say he never told her what was in that spoon he was feeding her every morning, only that he gets it from the bathroom...and that he has never "molested" her in any other way. That shows some confliction on his part but just the act alone is enough to make you worry what other things could have unfolded over time or if, like you say, he might have just gotten rid of her when she became a burden.

Also, this man sent three total letters to Child Find of America over the course of six months. UM showed only the first one. It makes you wonder what info was in the other letters.

I remember one of the family members I've talked to told me that Nathan told her the letter was really long, like a 11 pages long or something like that.

EDIT:

The article is finally out:
http://www.ktvh.com/2017/02/montanas-missing-nyleen-marshall-2

Little more detail on the t shirt Nyleen wore (it's yellow) and the former sheriff (who was on Unsolved Mysteries) was actually Nancy's next door neighbor and his daughter friendsd with Nyleen. We've only ever seen 2 photos of Nyleen and there's finally a 3rd one released (it's always been out there, but it could only be found in an outdated newspaper).

More edits:

I didn't see the interview with the searcher until now. So he found tracks of a child's barefeet and what appear to be slip marks and a child's hand and next to it were boot prints. The FBI didn't seem to buy it.

So I finally made a website for this case:
https://marshallcase.wordpress.com/

One piece of info I need to verify is that Nyleen has allergies to a bunch of stuff. The only one I know of is chocolate.

So I finally made a website for this case:
https://marshallcase.wordpress.com/

One piece of info I need to verify is that Nyleen has allergies to a bunch of stuff. The only one I know of is chocolate.

Interesting read. I'm always happy to see additional attention given to this case...

Interesting read. I'm always happy to see additional attention given to this case...

Thanks!

I rewrote the letter from watching the edited Lifetime segment where they zoom out. You can actually see just a little bit more of one of the letter pieces. I have them bolded at the bottom.

[…] I didn’t want their person to try to get information from her. All I could tell them was that she was OK. I hope that Child Find of America can get the following back to her family.

I picked “Kay” up on a road in the Elkhorn Pk. area between Helena and Boulder. She was crying and frightened and as I held her she was shaking and I decided that I would keep her and love her. I took her home with me.

I have a nice investment income and I can work at home so I care for her myself all the time. I teach her at home and she likes to go with me when I travel.

Her hair is short and curly now and she has really grown. She is about 45 inches and around 50 pounds. She has all four permanent upper and two of her lower incisors at this time. She takes a bath and brushes her teeth everyday.

She eats well. Her favorite meal is pizza and Cherry […]

I too would love to see the exact location and what everything looked like just to get a feel of the area. According to Wikipedia, the Elkhorn Mountains of the Helena National Forest are roughly 300,000 acres worth of land. Five years after Nyleen went missing in 1988, it says 47,000 acres were destroyed in a forest fire. If the area destroyed included the picnic area where the families were vacationing, it could look very different now from how it did in 1983.

http://southwestmt.com/listings/4519.htm

According to the link I posted, the area where they were picnicking may very well be the one that was burned. They were vacationing off of Warm Springs Creek Road and Nyleen and the other children were playing near Maupin Creek.

"If Nyleen’s body was in the mountains above Boulder, after 33 years, 'even the remains might have disappeared, even if there was something there, we might not have even found it,' Doolittle said discouragingly." -Nyleen's KTVH Article, February 3rd, 2017

I wonder why he never mentions that forest fire from 1988.

Looks like it's been mentioned already that Kim Marshall is Nyleen's stepfather and not her biological father. Here's a birth record for Nyleen (born Nyleen Kay Briscoe): https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&h=14103564&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Birth record for her brother Nathan: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&h=13735175&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Nancy's marriage to their father: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=CaMarrIndex&h=9290023&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Nancy's marriage to Kim Marshall: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=CaMarrIndex&h=8367289&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Looks like it's been mentioned already that Kim Marshall is Nyleen's stepfather and not her biological father. Here's a birth record for Nyleen (born Nyleen Kay Briscoe): https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&h=14103564&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Birth record for her brother Nathan: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&h=13735175&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Nancy's marriage to their father: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=CaMarrIndex&h=9290023&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Nancy's marriage to Kim Marshall: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=CaMarrIndex&h=8367289&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

You've been studying their family tree too?

You've been studying their family tree too?

Just found this stuff out of curiosity

Looks like it's been mentioned already that Kim Marshall is Nyleen's stepfather and not her biological father. Here's a birth record for Nyleen (born Nyleen Kay Briscoe): https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&h=14103564&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Birth record for her brother Nathan: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&h=13735175&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Nancy's marriage to their father: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=CaMarrIndex&h=9290023&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

Nancy's marriage to Kim Marshall: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=CaMarrIndex&h=8367289&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=60901

None of those links work for me. They all tell me to sign up for an account on ancestry.com.

I think only you can view this information.

None of those links work for me. They all tell me to sign up for an account on ancestry.com.

I think only you can view this information.

Here's one for Nyleen: http://birth-records.mooseroots.com/l/29648367/Nyleen-Kay-Briscoe

Nathan's birth certificate (now you know what NPM12 stands for): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VLT7-9FW

Nancy's marriage to William Briscoe (Kena06 was being truthful): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V6GL-483

Nancy's death certificate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:232B-H7S

Can't seem to find one on Kim.

I've updated my website; pages for Nancy's death and Vinyette (the girl who went missing the same day as Nyleen). The link is on my signature, but just in case: https://marshallcase.wordpress.com/

You'll see info that's new to you on Nancy's page. Heck, there's info that would be new to you on Nyleen's "Details About Her." Look closely and you'll find it (I know DarkDante will).

Vinyette Teague is a case that I feel goes hand to hand with Nyleen Marshall's case, almost in the same way Morgan Nick and Jacqueline Castaneda go hand to hand. I don't personally think any of these have connections, but I'd at least want to use my website to shed light on her case.

One future page I have in mind will cover common misconceptions people have of this case, plus potential leads like the Racine Jane Doe and the girl at the hospital (to clear people's concerns). I'd want to correct the notion that Kim had been questioned and was cleared of suspicion (never a suspect), but I REALLY don't want to say who is or isn't a suspect on there. I avoid making this website about pointing fingers; the most it'll do is point fingers at the guy in the jogging suit.

Speaking of fathers, William Briscoe did get questioned, but he was ruled out when his alibi establishes him as never leaving California. He did submit his DNA sample to law enforcement. I was told he remembers when they found a dead body and they needed his DNA to determine if the Jane Doe was Nyleen or not; apparently this really freaked him out. This was in the late 90's and I can't confirm if this was the Racine Jane Doe.

Excellent website Yusuke. I look forward to more information being added.

The details the caller gave about Nyleen and himself are curious. It seems surprising he would give out so many details since he presumably wants to get away with this for the rest of his life, if it really is her abductor speaking. I wonder if they're truthful or just things he threw out there to throw off authorities.

If he homeschooled her, that would help explain why Nyleen/he were never found, but then he says he took her on many trips, so they were definitely out and about. So strange.

His parents and sister dying in a car crash is one of the more distinctive clues. I wonder why UM didn't mention it.

His parents and sister dying in a car crash is one of the more distinctive clues. I wonder why UM didn't mention it.

Stack did say that the writer had mentioned this detail toward the end of the original cut of the segment. It was omitted out of subsequent runs.

Stack did say that the writer had mentioned this detail toward the end of the original cut of the segment. It was omitted out of subsequent runs.

In the Lifetime version, they did show just a little bit more of the letter, when they decided to zoom out of it and make it blurry so it'd be difficult to read.

There's an abundance of very interesting info here: https://imgur.com/a/1ODrLkT

They've actually made a composite sketch of the guy in the jogging suit, but it got concealed from the public. Why? I don't know, but you'd think that'd be useful to include in flyers in Wisconsin.

There's an abundance of very interesting info here: https://imgur.com/a/1ODrLkT

They've actually made a composite sketch of the guy in the jogging suit, but it got concealed from the public. Why? I don't know, but you'd think that'd be useful to include in flyers in Wisconsin.

That's really disappointing. You've got to wonder WHY they chose to omit that little piece of information from the public...

That's really disappointing. You've got to wonder WHY they chose to omit that little piece of information from the public...

To me, the 'why' could point to either the police being sloppy or the guy in the jogging suit being known to the police in some manner.

There's an abundance of very interesting info here: https://imgur.com/a/1ODrLkT

Thank you for those. They seem to be from about a year or two before 'Child Find of America' started receiving the letters and phone calls from the man claiming to be Nyleen's abductor.

Just watched this and sad to see no update.
I consider it highly unlikely that she alive as that would mean she didn't wander off and died in forest which I think is most likely option; that she was kidnapped and not killed but was brought up and since somehow has never been identified as Nyleen.