What the hell is wrong these officers? There were two incidents, one in Florida and Tennessee. I can't blame these parents for FLIPPING OUT

What was the other? I remember the one where the 5 year old had a tantrum

What was the other? I remember the one where the 5 year old had a tantrum


7 year old boy in Tennessee. Plus it was another incident like this in Philadelphia when cops put on 8 year old girl.

What the hell is wrong these officers? There were two incidents, one in Florida and Tennessee. I can't blame these parents for FLIPPING OUTI agree with you Solomon. It's not right for the police to handcuff children and they're time be spent better catching criminals. the police have no business trying to discipline children, that is the parents job.

What the hell is wrong these officers? There were two incidents, one in Florida and Tennessee. I can't blame these parents for FLIPPING OUT
I agree with you. I saw one of the incidents on the Today show yesterday morning. A 5 year-old no matter how bad she is shouldn't be hand cuffed. The world is too soft nowadays. How the hell did the Police get involve? What did the girl do? The Florida incident had the 5-year old black girl. Do you think if she was white they would have hand cuffed her?

7 year old boy in Tennessee. Plus it was another incident like this in Philadelphia when cops put on 8 year old girl.
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I agree with you. I saw one of the incidents on the Today show yesterday morning. A 5 year-old no matter how bad she is shouldn't be hand cuffed. The world is too soft nowadays. How the hell did the Police get involve? What did the girl do? The Florida incident had the 5-year old black girl. Do you think if she was white they would have hand cuffed her?I don't like to pull the race card, but I don't think she would have been cuffed if she was white. I've seen kids carry on worse than that and the teacher can handle. they had called the girl's mother, but she couldn't get away from work right away, so they called the cops.

unless the child is life-threatening and needs restraining, handcuffing a child as a punishment for typical misbehavior is beyond the point of ridiculous. EVERY CHILD THROWS TANTRUMS. they aren't mature enough to handle their anger.. well, maturely. it just indicates that the teachers don't know how to properly discipline children and resort to the police (over the parents) to do it for them.

I watched a piece on this story last night on Keith Olberman's show. Evidently, the child's mother had a written directive for the school to never lay a hand on her child, under any circumstances. She had a bad history with the school as her child pulled frequent tantrums. The school was not allowed to restrain her.

They showed a longer version of the video of the child going ballistic. One of the guests on this show was a Superintendent of Schools (forget where), and he pointed out that parents are quick to sue these days. You can see that the teacher is reluctant to touch the girl, even when the girl is taking swings at her. At one point, she's atop a table with both sneakers untied and going wild.

If she had fallen off the table, there's a lawsuit for sure. This was more than your child's average tantrum. This kid was completely out of control. With orders not to touch the child, what were they supposed to do? They called the mother and she couldn't get to the school. So they called the police. She was a danger to herself.

What were the police supposed to do? Break her arms trying to restrain her? There's a lot of power in a person who's in a rage, even a five year old.

Like the Superintendent said on the show, "You can't win".

This had nothing to do with race. That's BS if I ever heard it.

That 5 year-old was totally out of control, although I think it should have been the PARENTS' job to punish her, not the police. Too many parents these days let their kids away with everything and don't teach them right from wrong. Then, they wonder why their "precious little darlings" are getting into trouble. :rolleyes:

They should taser all these little brats. What kind of 5 year old kid tries to hit their teacher?

Maybe we should be looking at the parents of these kids.

:rolleyes: yeah your right we should just let kids roam freely and do what they want. It's wrong to teach kids lessons because they may be traumatized.

I watched a piece on this story last night on Keith Olberman's show. Evidently, the child's mother had a written directive for the school to never lay a hand on her child, under any circumstances. She had a bad history with the school as her child pulled frequent tantrums. The school was not allowed to restrain her.

They showed a longer version of the video of the child going ballistic. One of the guests on this show was a Superintendent of Schools (forget where), and he pointed out that parents are quick to sue these days. You can see that the teacher is reluctant to touch the girl, even when the girl is taking swings at her. At one point, she's atop a table with both sneakers untied and going wild.

If she had fallen off the table, there's a lawsuit for sure. This was more than your child's average tantrum. This kid was completely out of control. With orders not to touch the child, what were they supposed to do? They called the mother and she couldn't get to the school. So they called the police. She was a danger to herself.

What were the police supposed to do? Break her arms trying to restrain her? There's a lot of power in a person who's in a rage, even a five year old.

Like the Superintendent said on the show, "You can't win".

This had nothing to do with race. That's BS if I ever heard it.

I saw the longer clip too and felt they HAD to do something or she would have hurt herself - or a teacher or the vice-principal, but more herself and as you say, there would have been a HUGE lawsuit. I feel it does seem extreme that cops had to be called in for restraint, but they weren't allowed to lay hands on her and they had tried everything else to calm her down. The only alternative would be to have permanent security guards posted at ALL schools - now how costly would that be? It had nothing to do with her race in this case.
And as Dr. Phillips says, the discipline IS the parents' responsibility - but there lies the problem - they obviously aren't parenting properly, and these days, all it takes is to watch a few episodes of Nanny 911 or Super Nanny, maybe a bit of Dr. Phil and good old fashioned COMMON SENSE to learn some good parenting. The problems start at home.

They should taser all these little brats. What kind of 5 year old kid tries to hit their teacher?
They're not brats. it's very typical behavior of children that age when they can't have their way. they're just not mature enough yet to acknowledge and appreciate the good things they have or deal with anger in a more civilized manner.

And probably while these police officers are handcuffing 5 year old kids there adults criminals out roaming free who SHOULD be handcuffed!

I watched a piece on this story last night on Keith Olberman's show. Evidently, the child's mother had a written directive for the school to never lay a hand on her child, under any circumstances. She had a bad history with the school as her child pulled frequent tantrums. The school was not allowed to restrain her.

They showed a longer version of the video of the child going ballistic. One of the guests on this show was a Superintendent of Schools (forget where), and he pointed out that parents are quick to sue these days. You can see that the teacher is reluctant to touch the girl, even when the girl is taking swings at her. At one point, she's atop a table with both sneakers untied and going wild.

If she had fallen off the table, there's a lawsuit for sure. This was more than your child's average tantrum. This kid was completely out of control. With orders not to touch the child, what were they supposed to do? They called the mother and she couldn't get to the school. So they called the police. She was a danger to herself.

What were the police supposed to do? Break her arms trying to restrain her? There's a lot of power in a person who's in a rage, even a five year old.

Like the Superintendent said on the show, "You can't win".

This had nothing to do with race. That's BS if I ever heard it.


I saw the long version as well. The kid was really a danger to herself and everybody else. Also my sister pointed out something to me I didn't catch the first time I saw it. When the police arrived (I take it from their next statement that they had been called out on this little girl before) one of the cops asked the little girl what they had said they would next time they had to come out until the mother could get there to control the kid. Yup, handcuff her. So if the mother didn't want the cops getting involved (as it seems they had been before) she should have left to go take care of her kid.

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I saw the long version as well. The kid was really a danger to herself and everybody else. Also my sister pointed out something to me I didn't catch the first time I saw it. When the police arrived (I take it from their next statement that they had been called out on this little girl before) one of the cops asked the little girl what they had said they would next time they had to come out until the mother could get there to control the kid. Yup, handcuff her. So if the mother didn't want the cops getting involved (as it seems they had been before) she should have left to go take care of her kid.

D Kids throw tantrums all the time and there's no need to call the police. the mother was trying to get there, but she couldn't get away from work. it was stupid for the school to call the cops to a 5 year old. Florida has thousands of sexual offenders running around and their wasting their time on situations they shouldn't be in.

Kids throw tantrums all the time and there's no need to call the police. the mother was trying to get there, but she couldn't get away from work. it was stupid for the school to call the cops to a 5 year old. Florida has thousands of sexual offenders running around and their wasting their time on situations they shouldn't be in.
The police have to respond to every call. They have to.

The police have to respond to every call. They have to.Yes they have to respond to every call, but they didn't have to handcuff her.

Yes they have to respond to every call, but they didn't have to handcuff her.
Says you. I was referring to your comment that the cops are wasting time. My point is that they had to be there. They were summoned.

Says you. I was referring to your comment that the cops are wasting time. My point is that they had to be there. They were summoned.Even if they were summoned it was still a waste of time to respond to a tantrum.

Even if they were summoned it was still a waste of time to respond to a tantrum.


And if they hadn't and something had happened, then the police would be liable too. By LAW, they have to respond when summoned.

Have you seen the full version of the tape? You'll see what we mean. You have to see it to discuss it really because I wondered at first too but they had tried everything legally possible to get that kid under control. If the mother couldn't get away from work right away, then they have to take appropriate action - the kid didn't give any of them another option. If she were properly disiplined in the first place this never would have happened.

And if they hadn't and something had happened, then the police would be liable too. By LAW, they have to respond when summoned.

Have you seen the full version of the tape? You'll see what we mean. You have to see it to discuss it really because I wondered at first too but they had tried everything legally possible to get that kid under control. If the mother couldn't get away from work right away, then they have to take appropriate action - the kid didn't give any of them another option. If she were properly disiplined in the first place this never would have happened.I've viewed the whole tape and the police should not have been involved and they were wrong for handcuffing her. It's just my opinion, but I think this whole situation is outrageous.

Well I'm sick of all these dumbass kids turning into criminals and needing the cuffs.

I've viewed the whole tape and the police should not have been involved and they were wrong for handcuffing her. It's just my opinion, but I think this whole situation is outrageous.


You do have every right to your opinion and I do respect that.

But if anyone can offer any alternative answers to getting her under control without imprisoning her somehow, or spanking, that the school administrators could do without phoning the police, I'm sure they would be welcome.

Even if they were summoned it was still a waste of time to respond to a tantrum.
if the kid were uncontrollably running around throwing knives at everyone, would you still think it would be unnecessary for the police to try to stop her?

if the kid were uncontrollably running around throwing knives at everyone, would you still think it would be unnecessary for the police to try to stop her? That's a completely different situation. if that was the case this discussion wouldn't be happening.

Here's a photo of another child in handcuffs. His crime? Trying to bring a cup of water to Terri Schiavo who was literally dying of thirst.

Waits for outrage. :bored: :whistle:

Here's a photo of another child in handcuffs. His crime? Trying to bring a cup of water to Terri Schiavo who was literally dying of thirst.

Waits for outrage. :bored: :whistle:
What a martyr.

What a martyr.
What a kid with a heart.

Here's a photo of another child in handcuffs. His crime? Trying to bring a cup of water to Terri Schiavo who was literally dying of thirst.

Waits for outrage. :bored: :whistle: that is a different situation. one that kid was older and two this kid was with adults on private property and refused to move. my point about the school case is it is not the usual procedure to call the cops every time a kid throws a tantrum.

that is a different situation. one that kid was older and two this kid was with adults on private property and refused to move. my point about the school case is it is not the usual procedure to call the cops every time a kid throws a tantrum.
The school was issued a written directive by the mother to never touch the child for any reason. This isn't the first flipout by the little angel.
You can see how the teacher tries to avoid touching her. Nobody at the school was allowed to restrain her...the mother didn't come when called, so they called the cops.

that is a different situation. one that kid was older and two this kid was with adults on private property and refused to move. my point about the school case is it is not the usual procedure to call the cops every time a kid throws a tantrum.


But most kids settle down from tantrums long before this child did. As well, not every child endangers themselves by getting up on tables. This is a rare incident (thankfully) - its not like this is going on every day in most schools across America.

And I hardly think simple trespassing or loitering is call for the cuffs either.

Janice:
Here's a photo of another child in handcuffs. His crime? Trying to bring a cup of water to Terri Schiavo who was literally dying of thirst.


I think that was going too far. They could have held him for his parents to pick him up. His
parents expressed that they were truly proud of their son.

Oh, and I am sorry I called you a jerk over that other "Terri Schiavo" matter. I hope you can
forgive me.

You know what? I don't really see a problem.

From my understanding, they werent even allowed to lay a hand on the girl. So what else were they supposed to do? Did the cuffs actually HURT the girl or something? She was obviously having a raging fit and trying to control her by force could be dangerous to the girl. You know if anything had happened to her the parents would sue the crap out whoever was responsible. Maybe it was a bit harsh, but they just put her in some handcuffs to get her under control. It was a lose-lose situation, and it's not like the cops had any choice but to do their duty and respond to the call, whether or not their assistance was needed is debatible.

There will always be sex offenders out there. This incident and handcuffing children have nothing to do with that, Doctor Phillips, if that is your real name. It has to do with it in my opinion. they are taking more action against a five year old than sex offenders.


Have you not been listening to a thing Janice said? THE POLICE HAD TO RESPOND. But of
course, I don't expect a bleeding-heart liberal like you to understand that. What does being liberal had to do with anything. I said that they had to respond but it was a waste of time.

All of you who are bashing the police officers in this case need to stop it now and get a grip!. The officers were wrong and I'm not going to deny that. watch the tape the child had sat down and wasn't doing anything by the time they arrived. they had no right to lay a hand on her and them handcuffing her was unfair because she had calmed down.

isnt this thread becoming a little too politically-charged for the main chit-chat board?

Sarah, I think you need to take a really good look at yourself.
normally i'd bitch you out over this, but since you stated it politely, i'll negotiate. i wasn't criticizing anyone so why do you think i need to take a look at myself?

Here's a photo of another child in handcuffs. His crime? Trying to bring a cup of water to Terri Schiavo who was literally dying of thirst.

Waits for outrage. :bored: :whistle:
Thats awful, did they really need to handcuff him? ohno: I mean couldnt they have called his parents or something?

All of you who are bashing the police officers in this case need to stop it now and get a grip!
Its just their opinion

Yeah it sounds stupid but what else could they have done? Sedate her?

they should of just locked the kid in a closet and let her throw her tantrum

MsOrange:
They should of just locked the kid in a closet and let her throw her tantrum.


That is stupid, MsOrange.

Thats awful, did they really need to handcuff him? ohno: I mean couldnt they have called his parents or something?

He broke the law. That's what they do to law breakers. Like handcuffs really hurt anyone.

Dawsongirl:
He broke the law. That's what they do to law breakers. Like handcuffs really hurt anyone.


The police officers in that case needed to show him some compassion. Malloy and Reed would
have handled it better. This is one case where I have to disagree with you, dawsongirl.

Malloy and Reed wouldn't have had to deal with something that strange either I don't think.

MsOrange:
They should of just locked the kid in a closet and let her throw her tantrum.


That is stupid, MsOrange.
May thy Mighty Lord aboveth listen with his ears and hearth your cruel and uncalled for namecalling and smite you in the name of Himself! AMEN!

I am insulted as a Christian

Dawsongirl:
He broke the law. That's what they do to law breakers. Like handcuffs really hurt anyone.


The police officers in that case needed to show him some compassion. Malloy and Reed would
have handled it better. This is one case where I have to disagree with you, dawsongirl.


This is REAL life - not TVLand!!! Come on! These aren't characters in a friggin' show!! Do you see Malloy or Reed on COPS each week?? That's actually laughable.

Handcuffs only hurt when you resist them so if the little girl (it wasn't a boy) was screaming it was only because she CONTINUED to have the tantrum, and possibly the cuffs got uncomfortable then - solution - stop the stupid tantrum kid!!! At five years old if I had even seen a policeman's uniform coming at me I'd freeze! What happened to teaching children to respect - if not their parents, then at least their teachers, and if not that, then at least the law. I don't care how old she was - she was old enough to know better. And frankly, you are too that real life isn't a half hour show that ends in all smiles.

All of you who are bashing the police officers in this case need to stop it now and get a grip!




Police officers suck. :p

Police officers suck. :p
Oh, you're going to get it for that. :lol:

MsOrange:
They should of just locked the kid in a closet and let her throw her tantrum.


That is stupid, MsOrange.

normally i'd bitch you out over this, but since you stated it politely, i'll negotiate. i wasn't criticizing anyone so why do you think i need to take a look at myself?

would you please kindly answer me?

Police officers suck. :p

TV Cops are HOT.

What is sickening is how that mindnumbing show, "A Current Affair," is milking this story.

Webwarrior, I am no moderator, but you are out of line with your political remarks, and insulting people on this thread. This thread is about police handcuffing a girl. It seems to me you are pro-police and supports them no matter what they do! Where the fu-ck you get off by calling someone liberal bcause they don't like what the cops did! You want to be so religious, but people on here don't always agree with your beliefs. Sarah is a good girl, because if you would have told me to look at myself in the mirror, I would have cursed you out!!!

unless the child is life-threatening and needs restraining, handcuffing a child as a punishment for typical misbehavior is beyond the point of ridiculous. EVERY CHILD THROWS TANTRUMS. they aren't mature enough to handle their anger.. well, maturely. it just indicates that the teachers don't know how to properly discipline children and resort to the police (over the parents) to do it for them.

:yeahthat:

Safety pin:
They're not brats. it's very typical behavior of children that age when they can't have their way. they're just not mature enough yet to acknowledge and appreciate the good things they have or deal with anger in a more civilized manner.


Sarah, I think you need to take a really good look at yourself.


What the heck is your problem?