View Full Version : Randolph Dial captured!


themope
04-05-2005, 05:05 AM
They've finally found Dial and the warden's wife he ran away with. Here's a link to the details:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/INMATE_CAPTURED?SITE=CASTO&SECTION=US

crystaldawn
04-05-2005, 10:16 AM
Wow, that is great news!!! Thanks for the link! I don't think she went with him willingly at the time but by now is probably been brainwashed into staying with him. Well he's in jail now so maybe she'll return to her husband and daughters. Do you think Lifetime will ever update it?

mercy1825
04-05-2005, 11:01 AM
First BTK

Then Jesse James Hollywood

Now Randolph Dial.


Way to go!!!!!!!!!!!

duster340wdg
04-05-2005, 02:52 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/INMATE_CAPTURED?SITE=CASTO&SECTION=US

Says in that article that she was reunited with her husband. The AMW site says she was not.

Kane
04-05-2005, 03:42 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/INMATE_CAPTURED?SITE=CASTO&SECTION=US

Says in that article that she was reunited with her husband. The AMW site says she was not.

Obviously, one of the sources is mistaken. If AMW is mistaken about Bobbi not being reunited with her husband, it's likely that either she wasn't reunited at the time AMW got the news about Dial's capture, or they just didn't have the correct info yet.

Just a thought.

Composite Sketch
04-07-2005, 12:28 PM
I was just at the AMW site and it does say that Bobbi has been reunited with her husband.

I am so pleased with the news! After 11 years and they're finally found. I hope this instills more faith in older UM cases that are still unsolved.

gaf
04-07-2005, 02:15 PM
I just saw that Greta van Susteren will be talking about this story on her show this evening.

Also, Bobbi Parker is apparently from my state and her parents still live here. I've heard that some local news stations plan to interview her parents, but I haven't seen the stories yet.

Awsi Dooger
04-07-2005, 08:09 PM
I just saw that Greta van Susteren will be talking about this story on her show this evening.

I had no idea. Must be a network I correctly choose to ignore, in fact banished from my channel list.

DF Justin
04-08-2005, 04:04 AM
wow thats so bizarre, we were just talking about this specific case last week

mercy1825
04-08-2005, 12:02 PM
I had no idea. Must be a network I correctly choose to ignore, in fact banished from my channel list.


I loved this post!! I couldn't agree more!!!!

crystaldawn
04-08-2005, 12:19 PM
Speaking of that channel you choose to ignore, :) I saw part of a segment about her on Bill O'Reilly last night. He thinks she was partly responsible and can't believe the FBI didn't arrest her when they arrested Dial. He's going to follow this and not let it drop he said.

mercy1825
04-08-2005, 12:22 PM
Thanks for the information, but you are far too good of a person, caring, compassionate, and empathetic to tune in to that kind of programming.

justins5256
04-08-2005, 12:31 PM
to tune in to that kind of programming.

Oh boy, you really don't know her at all, do you? ;)

Justin

crystaldawn
04-08-2005, 12:38 PM
Thanks for the saying that Mercy, in my defense I was just flicking and came across it. :talk:

Thanks also Justin, I just consider the source. :p

mercy1825
04-08-2005, 12:39 PM
She emailed me a complete story list for free that I am working with. Why, do yu know her well?

Koala
04-08-2005, 03:17 PM
I believe in compassion for people and benefit of the doubt, but I gotta wonder if Bobbi Parker was not the wife of a warden would she have been reunited with her family that soon? If it is a case of Stockholm syndrome I am glad that she has been treated with compassion, however, the average Jane would probably be under the bright lights of interrogation a lot longer. Perhaps she was so traumatized that it was obvious she was not faking. Anyway I am sure there will be more scrutiny as time goes on.

justins5256
04-08-2005, 03:27 PM
She emailed me a complete story list for free that I am working with. Why, do yu know her well?

Yes, quite well actually. She is very nice.

Justin

Ninjaman
04-08-2005, 05:08 PM
Sorry for being out of the loop, but could someone tell me which case the Randolph Dial case is? I think I have an idea, but I'm not totally sure. Thanks a lot.

mercy1825
04-08-2005, 05:26 PM
Sorry for being out of the loop, but could someone tell me which case the Randolph Dial case is? I think I have an idea, but I'm not totally sure. Thanks a lot.

He escaped from a minimum security Oklahoma prison in 1994 while on a co-op duty with the warden's wife. At the time he was serving a life sentence for a 1981 murder. The warden and his wife lived next door to the prison and on the day of the escape, both Dial, and Bobbie Parker, the Warden's wife, disappeared. It was always a mystery as to whether sh was abducted, or went along willingly. This remains a mystery, although they were both found.

sdb4884
02-15-2010, 08:18 AM
I can't believe a murderer was put in that close proximitiy to children in the first place. Glad to hear that she is back with her family

Kane
02-15-2010, 03:57 PM
I can't believe a murderer was put in that close proximitiy to children in the first place. Glad to hear that she is back with her family

I am glad that not only was Bobbi Parker reunited with her family, but Randolph Dial was sent back to prison. And there is no longer the concern of him escaping again, because he is now deceased; he died in 2007, just two years after he was caught.

sdb4884
02-16-2010, 12:09 AM
I am glad that not only was Bobbi Parker reunited with her family, but Randolph Dial was sent back to prison. And there is no longer the concern of him escaping again, because he is now deceased; he died in 2007, just two years after he was caught.

Great news, thanks for the update:wave:

kadrmas15
02-16-2010, 05:02 AM
Well I would not go so far as to root for death. The fact of the matter is, let's stop and think about this one for a moment, whose fault really was it that Randolph Dial escaped? Not Randolph Dial's and here is why: He should have never been put in a minimum security prison in the first place, he was a lifer serving a life sentence for murder, gee, what a shock he would try to escape, he really had nothing to lose. So this is all on the State of Oklahoma for being irresponsible and putting a lifer into a minimum security prison. I mean to allow Dial or anyone else doing the kind of time he was doing for the type of crime he was doing is just, it is insane!

Avante
06-17-2010, 05:38 PM
The role of Bobbi Parker had in the escape not been fully determined. Her trial has been scheduled for Sept. 20, 2010.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20100603_14_0_MNUhra51824

A time line of events can be seen here: http://marriage.about.com/od/celebritymarriages/p/bobbiparker.htm

justins5256
06-17-2010, 09:38 PM
The role of Bobbi Parker had in the escape not been fully determined. Her trial has been scheduled for Sept. 20, 2010.

Wow, that's really interesting. Thanks for posting. I wondered if anything would ever come of this. Hopefully a conviction.

crystaldawn
06-18-2010, 07:05 AM
Sorry to hear they're taking this to trial. Why can't they just leave her alone. I think its going to hurt her case that Dial isn't here to testify as he has stated that she did not go willingly and that she was drugged often to keep her with him. Personally I doubt they'll get a conviction and if they happen to she won't get any jail time.

justins5256
06-18-2010, 08:55 AM
Sorry to hear they're taking this to trial. Why can't they just leave her alone. I think its going to hurt her case that Dial isn't here to testify as he has stated that she did not go willingly and that she was drugged often to keep her with him. Personally I doubt they'll get a conviction and if they happen to she won't get any jail time.

CD,

I know you have stated before that you think Bobbi Parker shouldn't be held accountable. Perhaps you have given your reasoning in other threads, and I'm not remembering it at the moment. I guess I always knew you held this position strongly but I wondered why. Do you mind elaborating again?

Thank you.

crystaldawn
06-18-2010, 09:12 AM
CD,

I know you have stated before that you think Bobbi Parker shouldn't be held accountable. Perhaps you have given your reasoning in other threads, and I'm not remembering it at the moment. I guess I always knew you held this position strongly but I wondered why. Do you mind elaborating again?

Thank you.

I'll be happy to elaborate. I've just never thought Bobbi went with him willingly. I have read the book about Dial and they don't really focus on the story with Bobbi much but did seem to indicate that Dial was infatuated with her. They also mention another female who had to interact with Dial while in prison (she wasn't an inmate) that he developed a crush on so it seemed to be a pattern with him. I can't buy that Dial in his old haggered condition would attract a young woman who by all accounts was in a happy marriage. He did admit to holding a knife to her to ensure she would go that day. The eyewitness accounts of Dial and Bobbi at the bank art show soon after (featured on the UM segment) seem to corroborate this as well that Bobbi seemed scared, not someone that was happy being with him (like Diane Brodbeck was for example). He had since said that he used drugs to control her and every time he thought she was about to try and run he would drug her again. As a mother I think I could relate on some level what was going through her mind while she was held captive. She knows Dial is a convicted killer who knows exactly who her children and husband are and where they live. She could have thought if I run then he'll run too and go kill my family. I think on some level she was much damaged by the drugs and got used to living with him. Possibly even broke her will, isn't that what people sometimes use drugs on other people for? I just can't help but think what a miserable, tormented life she led those 10 years with him (no one that I have read about said she appeared happy at all that knew her during that time) and it just seems like the nightmare continues with this trial looming over her head while she's trying to get on with her life. Like I stated above I also think its really hurts her defense that Dial isn't here to testify and confess to what he did to her. I doubt anything he stated since he was captured would even be admissible.

I will say though that I certainly don't agree with everything Bobbi did. No matter what the threat I think I would have tried everything to escape from him. At least get a call to my family so they would know I didn't leave them willingly. I don't know all the answers to why she didn't try more but like I said I think the mind altering drugs she was given over the years and fear for her family's safety played a big part.

justins5256
06-18-2010, 09:56 AM
Thanks for explaining.

A few years back, there was a special about the case (I can't recall if it was Dateline, 20/20, or 48 Hours or a similar program). In the special, there was an interview with an author who claimed he spoke with Randolph Dial via telephone and that he also spoke with Bobbi Parker. I'll admit that I can't recall how long after the escape the call was made. However, the author believed, based on his conversation with Dial and Bobbi Parker, that Bobbi was there willingly. Do you have any thoughts on this aspect?

Something else that has always troubled me - I know that Dial did make a point to say that Bobbi did not go with him willingly. However, I have a difficult time accepting his word based on his obvious reputation. In addition, I think it's reasonable to assume that Dial would have said anything to protect Bobbi at that point. Whether she was with him willingly or not, there had to have been some degree of loyalty between them since they lived together for ten years. I guess what I'm getting at is I really can't imagine Dial saying anything else then what he did, in fact, say. He didn't have a reason to throw Bobbi under the bus, that we know of.

In addition, I believe there was some eyewitness testimony about times that Bobbi was alone in which she could have summoned help, but failed to do so. These sightings were quite awhile after the escape though, so I suppose the argument could be made that she was brainwashed and "accepting" of her new life and role at that point.

You mention Diane Brodbeck, which is a good analogy that crossed my mind as well. In Brodbeck's case, there was pretty much zero doubt that she helped Jon Yount plan the escape and that she was living with him willingly. She should have gotten more prison time then she did, in my opinion.

However, in Bobbi's case, there still are some questions that need answering. It was even alluded in the UM segment that it was unknown whether Bobbi was a victim or a willing participant. I feel that these questions are reasonable. So, why not put the issue to a jury?

Corky Kneivel
06-18-2010, 11:48 AM
The role of Bobbi Parker had in the escape not been fully determined. Her trial has been scheduled for Sept. 20, 2010.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20100603_14_0_MNUhra51824

A time line of events can be seen here: http://marriage.about.com/od/celebritymarriages/p/bobbiparker.htm


I ****ING LOVE THE INTERNET!!!

The couple in that 2nd link have an About.com page featuring the "marriage profile" of Bobbi Parker and her unimpeachably loyal hubby. Great, tangential, somewhat-related-yet-totally-not-at-all-related way to bring traffic to your marriage counseling biz's website. I am not mad at them at all for getting their hustle on.

crystaldawn
06-19-2010, 08:23 AM
To address your comments Justin I understand your point about why not put it to a jury. I guess I'm just looking at things from Bobbi's point of view. Granted Randolph is not a very trustworthy guy, I got the impression from reading the book about his life that he was very full of himself. I think if Bobbi had left with him he would be bragging about it to anyone that would listen. I guess you could look at it either way depending on who you want to believe but I think part of him felt guilty for what he had done to her (of course not bad enough to let her go) so he thought he could at least clear her name and keep her from going to prison.

As far as the phone call, simply put Randolph was standing right there next to Bobbi so of course she wasn't going to tell the writer the real story of what happened. I do think there's probably a degree of Stockholm Syndome in this story as well.

I do think its pretty telling that its taken this many years to even bring her to trial. I think if they had strong evidence, her case would have went to the jury a long time ago so that bodes well for her in my opinion.

The Dutchman
06-25-2010, 04:55 PM
I definitely think this should go to a jury, and I'm not convinced Bobbi Parker suffered from Stockholm Syndrome or wasn't at fault. She was with this Randolph Dial for over a decade and never spoke out once? That, and I have always had a bad feeling about the warden husband, who just seemed a bit too "unimpeachably loyal" in that segment on UM. While it would have meant leaving her children, could she have been allured by Randolph Dial and a new life?

That and I just have an issue believing every crime or immoral act that goes to trial (or occurs) where someone did something because of Twinkies, an anti-depressant, a sexual addiction, Marilyn Manson or video games. I could see this case becoming an open door for the Stockholm Syndrome defense (which I don't question is a legitimate condition, but could become another scapegoat for someone's free will or bad choices).