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Great8
03-06-2005, 10:27 PM
This article from the San Jose Mercury News says that NBC has told Jonathan Prince not to strike the sets and to begin negotiating a lease agreement for next season for the studio space. He also says then can cancel in a nanosecond, but at least it's a little hopeful!

`American Dreams' could become only a memory
SIGNS INDICATE NBC SHOW MAY FACE SAME FATE AS EARLIER WELL-MADE FAMILY DRAMAS: CANCELLATION
By Charlie McCollum
Mercury News

Network executives, advocacy groups and ordinary viewers all say often -- and loudly -- that they want more family shows on television.

But here's the funny thing: When good family-focused dramas and comedies actually do surface, they more often than not vanish within months. The closer the show gets to real life, and the more willing it is to deal with substantial issues, the more likely it is to evaporate quickly.

TV's recent history is littered with good shows about the American family (``Once and Again,'' ``Freaks and Geeks'') that died of neglect, either from those who put them on the air and then backed off or from viewers at home who refused to watch. This season, the series considered in danger of cancellation in the spring includes a fistful of family dramas: CBS's ``Joan of Arcadia,'' the WB's ``Jack & Bobby,'' UPN's ``Veronica Mars'' -- and NBC's ``American Dreams.''

Set in the Philadelphia of the 1960s, this good (sometimes very good) show centers around the middle-class Pryor family: father Jack, wife Helen and their four children: Meg, JJ, Will and Patty. Much of the action takes place on ``American Bandstand'' where Meg and her closest friend, Roxanne Bojarski, are among the regular dancers. And the Pryors' lives overlap with those of the Walkers, a black, working class family striving to break out of the tenements.

Over its three years on the air, ``Dreams'' has used its setting in the turbulent decade to explore themes that still resonate today: race, abortion, the conflicts between parents and children, women's roles in society, the culture clashes that America goes through periodically.

While the show occasionally lapses into banality and predictability, it more often has been engaging, thoughtful entertainment with a great sense of its time and place. Its cast -- notably Brittany Snow as Meg, Tom Verica and Gail O'Grady as her parents and Vanessa Lengies as Roxanne -- certainly has evolved into one of the better ensembles on TV.

But this season, ``Dreams'' has been cut down to 18 episodes (most network dramas do 22) with its season ending early, on March 30.

Moreover, it has been yanked out of its 8 p.m. Sunday spot -- where it was getting hammered by CBS's ``Cold Case'' and, in particular, ABC's ``Extreme Makeover: Home Edition.'' The final four episodes will air Wednesdays at 8 p.m., starting this week.

The competition on Wednesdays? ``Lost,'' the ABC juggernaut, and the Fox Wednesday lineup that includes ``The Simple Life'' and something called ``American Idol.'' And the WB's ``Smallville'' draws young women who form an important part of the ``Dreams'' audience.

Ouch.

Jonathan Prince, the series' co-creator, executive producer and full-time salesman, has known for some time that ``Dreams'' has been standing on shaky Nielsen ground with an audience that has slid below 8 million.

``Sunday nights, we came up against this beast called `Extreme Makeover: Home Edition,' '' Prince says. ``It took away tons of viewers from our show when we had been doing pretty well, even against `Cold Case.' This just destroyed us.''

As a result, he says, the show is ``on some sort of strange bubble'' in terms of renewal for a fourth season. ``Our future will be decided by, first, how do we do in March in terms of viewership? And secondly, how is NBC doing in developing new shows for next season?''

In Prince's mind, NBC certainly could do a lot worse than to keep ``American Dreams'' around. He points out, correctly, that the show still draws one of the most affluent, educated audiences in television. And it's a rare show that draws an even mixture of older and younger viewers.

``There simply aren't very many shows you can watch with your kids,'' Prince notes.

And right now, none of the new shows NBC is considering for next season could be considered a family drama, which suggests to Prince that ``they may live or die with us.''

Which may explain why, so far, NBC is hedging its bets.

The network is playing up the Wednesday move as an attempt to put together two top American dramas -- ``Dreams'' and ``The West Wing.'' In addition, says Prince, NBC executives have told him not to strike the sets and to begin lease negotiations for another year at the studio where the show is filmed.

``Every bit of behavior indicates they want us to continue production,'' says Prince. ``Might they still pull the plug? In a heartbeat.''

That, folks, would be too bad.

So, to the executives at NBC: Give ``American Dreams'' the benefit of the doubt. You've got plenty of other holes on your tattered schedule to worry about. Come the fall, you can relaunch ``Dreams'' at 8 p.m. on Fridays where it might flourish in the spot once held by family dramas such as ``Providence.''

And viewers: Give ``Dreams'' a chance this month and tune in. Wednesday's episode, which includes Meg Pryor's graduation from high school in 1966, is particularly good, and ``Lost'' is airing a repeat, as it will for much of March. The only way to really help this show is to prove it still has an audience.

``If you like `American Dreams,' '' says Prince, ``this is the time to say so. This is the time when it would help.''

`American Dreams'

***

Airing: 8 p.m. Wednesday, Chs. 8, 11

Creator: Jonathan Prince

Cast: Tom Verica, Gail O'Grady, Brittany Snow, Vanessa Lengies, Will Estes, Arlen Escarpeta, Rachel Boston, Sarah Ramos, Jonathan Adams, Ethan Dampf
Contact Charlie McCollum at cmccollum@mercurynews.com or (408) 920-5245.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/columnists/11065451.htm

PrettyinPink55
03-06-2005, 11:29 PM
Thanks for posting that, Great8! It did give me a glimmer of hope that the show can and my possibly be saved!!!

Thanks for that! :)

Storywriter
03-07-2005, 01:16 AM
I like the comment about American Idol.Something called American Idol.I hope its a insult to American Idol cause I laughed and hard.Please! god let it be an insult to Idol please please!.Mel :cool: ;)

PrettyinPink55
03-07-2005, 06:20 PM
I have been looking through the "projects in development" for the 2005-2006 season on thefutoncritic.com, and the article is right. NBC has no new incoming family dramas. And I don't think they have any other family dramas besides AD, unless you count The West Wing. So, that could very well be an up point for us! (Yes, I said us! :D )

To look through the possible new NBC dramas in development:

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/gofuton.cgi?select=&network=nbc&genre=3&commitment=2&submit=submit&action=charts

If you read that, would you call "Book of Daniel" a family drama? :confused: The description is kind of iffy to me.

LuV2DreeM
03-07-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't wish to "poop" on anyone's parade......but I don't know that a network necessarily HAS to have a family oriented show on the air.
Maybe I'm wrong.

I would think if "they" thought they could get higher ratings for a "reality" show, per se, they would air THAT instead of a family show.
It's all about advertising dollars.
And it's also all about putting on the air what will draw viewers WHILE AT THE SAME TIME get passed by the critics/censors.

Like I said.......I could be wrong.

Peace.

Great8
03-08-2005, 12:40 AM
You're of course right, Luv2Dream, but in this era which supposedely embraces "family values", it would be a poor PR move to not have any "family" shows on the schedule. NBC, the home of trash like "Fear Factor", might see AD as a loss leader, something they can use to show people that they do value quality.

PrettyinPink55
03-08-2005, 12:59 AM
You're of course right, Luv2Dream, but in this era which supposedely embraces "family values", it would be a poor PR move to not have any "family" shows on the schedule. NBC, the home of trash like "Fear Factor", might see AD as a loss leader, something they can use to show people that they do value quality.


Exactly my point, Great8! I couldn't have said it better myself! In light of all that's been going on within the past year or so, a lot of people are concerned about what's on television these days, so it would be wise for networks to target the family audience.

ADfan
03-08-2005, 02:13 AM
Just to put my two cents in, I think it's ridiculous that a show that contains not only family values of the past, which if you are raising a family of your own should be valued more, but also a history lesson thats entertaining. You would think that only would increase its importance factor to NBC, but like you both said its the doller that counts now a days.

Storywriter
03-08-2005, 02:16 AM
Just to put my two cents in, I think it's ridiculous that a show that contains not only family values of the past, which if you are raising a family of your own should be valued more, but also a history lesson thats entertaining. You would think that only would increase its importance factor to NBC, but like you both said its the doller that counts now a days.Networks only care about the money they make promoting fake reality crap not any of the dramas and sitcoms themself.They are money hungry gavonnes.Mel :cool:

ADfan
03-08-2005, 02:31 AM
Networks only care about the money they make promoting fake reality crap not any of the dramas and sitcoms themself.They are money hungry gavonnes.Mel :cool:

I couldn't agree more, I'm definatly not a reality TV fan, espically when one of them can or may cause my favorite shows to get bumped.

PrettyinPink55
03-08-2005, 02:56 AM
I don't see how crap like Fear Factor makes it on the air and quality shows like American Dreams have to struggle to stay alive.... What does this say about American society?

ADfan
03-08-2005, 03:00 AM
I don't see how crap like Fear Factor makes it on the air and quality shows like American Dreams have to struggle to stay alive.... What does this say about American society?

Apparently that watching a human being eating animal rectums, bugs and jumping through hoops for 50,000 (or however much they win) is more intersting then a quality family show. Very sad!!!!!!!!!!!!

LuV2DreeM
03-08-2005, 09:48 AM
In defense of "tv".......there does exist PBS type channels that try to air educational programming.

In defense of NBC, they are in business and have to make money. The actors/actresses of major network shows pull in BIG DOLLARS. My friend was on a show for 3 years and I said "Wow, you must have pulled some big dollars".....and his reply was "I was on cable.....it's not the same".

So we are NBC at AD.......not the WB.
Our actors/actresses make a lot more money than the WB people.
Our network HAS to pull in a lot more viewers than the WB.
Our network HAS to compete for the viewers the other major networks are trying to pull in..........with reality tv.

It's kind of a catch 22. We like our actors/actresses (actually, the parts they play......we don't really know them as people), but since they are on a major network, the "going thing" these days for the major networks seems to be "reality" shows.
Fortunately for me, all my friends DO NOT raise their children on tv. They instill the family values as parents themselves.
I hope America does the same. Nothing teaches like the parents being an example.

Peace.

newsie007
03-17-2005, 07:54 PM
Other website chat-rooms and threads about trying to save "American Dreams" have suggested postcards are the best way to contact NBC executives Jeff Zucker and Kevin Reilly... and they may indeed be right.
but most folks may only think they can e-mail NBC's "general" e-mail address... and another thread has suggested those e-mails won't get forwarded to Mr. Zucker and Reilly. That's probably true... HOWEVER...

I used to work for NBC... and their e-mail system works as follows. The person's first name... a period... last name, then @NBC.com.

So it's worth sending your e-mails DIRECT to Mr. Zucker and Mr. Reilly's offices at the following e-mail address.

JEFF ZUCKER e-mail is: Jeff.Zucker@nbc.com
KEVIN REILLY is: Kevin.Reilly@nbc.com

If you want to save American dreams... start sending those e-mails AND letters. i've sent e-mails to these addresses... and they HAVE NOT come back as "undeliverable"... so they are going to an office connected to these NBC executives.
START WRITING NOW!

Storywriter
03-17-2005, 08:24 PM
Well the one I sent to Kevin was sent back as undelivered but not the one to Jeff.Jeff got hisI'd say.Mel

Brent88
03-17-2005, 08:33 PM
Other website chat-rooms and threads about trying to save "American Dreams" have suggested postcards are the best way to contact NBC executives Jeff Zucker and Kevin O'Reilly... and they may indeed be right.
but most folks may only think they can e-mail NBC's "general" e-mail address... and another thread has suggested those e-mails won't get forwarded to Mr. Zucker and O'Reilly. That's probably true... HOWEVER...

I used to work for NBC... and their e-mail system works as follows. The person's first name... a period... last name, the @NBC.com.

So it's worth sending your e-mails DIRECT to Mr. Zucker and Mr. O'Reilly's offices at the following e-mail address.

JEFF ZUCKER e-mail is: Jeff.Zucker@nbc.com
KEVIN O'REILLY is: Kevin.Reilly@nbc.com

If you want to save American dreams... start sending those e-mails AND letters. i've sent e-mails to these addresses... and they HAVE NOT come back as "undeliverable"... so they are going to an office connected to these NBC executives.
START WRITING NOW!

Writing letters carry more weight, because someone actually took the time to sit down and write. Typing an email is a lot faster, so try to send in the letters as well. Keep the emails coming too, it's the only hope this show has got.

Storywriter
03-18-2005, 01:24 AM
First of all one email is enough give them time to read them don't annoy them by packing their inbox with emails.Plus sorry but I'm not writing letters or sending post cards.

I'm busy trying to make a future with my life.I sent them email,I voted for them in some E poll and I signed a petetion which is alot I did for being busy trying to work on my future..They will get my email when they get a chance

Also I took my time writing my email I didn't just rush threw it .You can take as much time to send an email as you can writing a letter but you should never keep emailing.Because after awhile they will delete it because they will get annoyed possibly if you email them everyday......Mel

newsie007
03-18-2005, 03:45 AM
Dear Storywriter... and anyone else.
TRY AGAIN to send your e-mail to KEVIN REILLY.
I accidentally typed in a wrong address previously... BUT I've edited and CORRECTED that mistake on the previous posting.
Again... the CORRECT addresses for NBC executives:

KEVIN REILLY (at NBC Burbank) is: Kevin.Reilly@nbc.com
JEFF ZUCKER is: Jeff.Zucker@nbc.com

newsie007
03-18-2005, 04:14 AM
To Mel... try again.
The e-mail addresses for these exceutives are:
JEFF ZUCKER (NBC New York) is: Jeff.Zucker@nbc.com
KEVIN REILLY (NBC Burbank) is: Kevin.Reilly@nbc.com

At this last stage of the game... e-mails are probably the fastest most effective way to let these execs know people are interested.

With ratings being tabulated each week... a show of support via e-mail is immediate and something that would be noticed.
Ignore any cynics who might say NBC will just delete any e-mails. The mere fact that e-mails from various people across the country to their offices are just as effective an effort as any... other than ratings... to show them people are taking time to voice their opinions.

I KNOW this because I work in the TV business as a profession and career... and have worked for the NBC network in the past.

ANY effort certainly wouldn't hurt... if you REALLY would like to see "American Dreams" renewed.

Even if it IS cancelled... you can feel you participated in TRYING to save the show.

JEFF ZUCKER (NBC New York) Jeff.Zucker@nbc.com
KEVIN REILLY (NBC Burbank) Kevin.Reilly@nbc.com

Storywriter
03-18-2005, 01:36 PM
I sent them one email each.I took time out of my busy schedule to do my job so nobody give me any feedback on how if I really want to save AD I will do what I have to do.I have done what I needed to do.So now let them do their job now if you will all please excuse me I got to go.Mel.

Great8
03-18-2005, 02:43 PM
Mel, we're all busy! You think any of us have hours on end to spend trying to save a TV show? I took 10 minutes a night for a few days to write out a couple postcards. It wasn't a huge time crunch!

Relax. Any effort is appreciated. No need to get defensive! It's a TV show -- one that I love-- but it's not life and death. We know that. If you feel you've done your part, then that's all we can ask.

newsie007
03-18-2005, 09:05 PM
Just a thought....
I'm new to this site... and I'm NOT about questioning any individual posters motivations. everyone's entitled to their opinions.

I APOLOGIZE in advance, if this posting of mine is "off base" or misunderstood.

but, I've noticed the poster named "Mel" write at least two postings apparently defending his efforts to write to save American Dreams..... and also insinuating he has better things to do than keep sending repeated postcards and e-mails to save this show.... also saying he's - to paraphrase - working on his "own" future.

I can't argue with that at all. Its CERTAINLY your prerogative.
I'm just CORDIALLY puzzled that someone would say several times that they don't have time to "send multiple postcards and e-mails" regarding American Dreams...
... but yet, this same AD fan does seem to have the time to apparently check this website often and post numerous statements about how his time is better spent doing other things.... furthering "his own future".

Um, if that's true... I'm wondering.. couldn't you better utilize all this precious time by not posting on this site so often???
.... ONLY because you make it seem like it's a chore for you to do so.

It seems to me folks write on this site to SHARE an interest in saving American dreams...

......NOT to dampen the enthusiasm and hopes of other fans hopeful of AD's renewal.

THIS ISN'T PERSONAL... I'm just a fellow AD fan that's a bit puzzled by your stance on time "wasted' discussing American Dreams.

You don't have to post here if you don't want to... but I assume everyone, including me WELCOMES you.
If I've misunderstood you.... I apologize.

Now... on to hoping America Dreams is hopefully renewed.
Peace.

Storywriter
03-19-2005, 01:00 AM
All I will say is I'm a 26 year old girl not guy plus I have been on this site now a year and two months I did what I could to save this show now let them do what they have to do..

We do talk about the episodes here after we see them.Well a few of us do...But I am not sure how much longer I will be visiting here.

Mel is short for Melissa.

Peace and goodnight .. .Mel... :o