She is a very pretty girl and seems to not care at all that she is getting big. Why is she not doing anything about it? I saw her on Regis two weeks ago and if she doesn;t watch it she will be 300 pounds by the age of 25. She is EXTREMELY CHUNKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!-LOL

She is a very pretty girl and seems to not care at all that she is getting big. Why is she not doing anything about it? I saw her on Regis two weeks ago and if she doesn;t watch it she will be 300 pounds by the age of 25. She is EXTREMELY CHUNKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!-LOL
since she's overweight, what't the point of her even living? she should be on death row-LOL

since she's overweight, what't the point of her even living? she should be on death row-LOL


Because it's unhealthy and unattractive to be overweight

LOL another great topic by SOLOMON. I can't wait for all the That's So Raven teenies to attack. Better watchout man!

She does need to watch her weight.

:lol: Here we go. . . . .

why are people so cruel about women's weight? Raven is actually a healthy normal girl, but because she's not gagging after she eats like Mary-Kate Olsen or someone along those lines, she's "fat". Why should women have to be anorexic? It happens with men too, but not to the same extent, I am 180 lbs and guess what, I'm not gonna deprive myself of food just so I can go down 2 or 3 jean sizes. If you want a sickly anorexic or bulimic entertainer, there's plenty of them.

Comments like this are what killed Karen Carpenter.

why are people so cruel about women's weight? Raven is actually a healthy normal girl, but because she's not gagging after she eats like Mary-Kate Olsen or someone along those lines, she's "fat". Why should women have to be anorexic? It happens with men too, but not to the same extent, I am 180 lbs and guess what, I'm not gonna deprive myself of food just so I can go down 2 or 3 jean sizes. If you want a sickly anorexic or bulimic entertainer, there's plenty of them.

Comments like this are what killed Karen Carpenter.


She is too bottom heavy. I couldn;t believe how big she was when i saw her on Regis. You don;t have to be super thin but still be still in shape. Looks like she needs to LOCK THE FRIDGE-lol

She is too bottom heavy. I couldn;t believe how big she was when i saw her on Regis. You don;t have to be super thin but still be still in shape. Looks like she needs to LOCK THE FRIDGE-lol
Wow, did she look that heavy? She is lucky that she is young..and all she needs to do is to walk around the block for an entire month and she will be in shape.

She is okay looking. I think the reason why she looks big to us is because all of her counterparts (Hilary Duff, Lindsay Lohan, Mischa Barton, Olsens, etc.) are practically toothpicks.

She does need to get to get a nose job though.

I don't think that anyone, celebrity or otherwise, should go crazy trying to be pencil thin. I do, however, think that if a celebrity is on a show and being billed as hot or whatever, then they should stay hot. I didn't make society's rules, but fat isn't considered hot. If Julia Roberts packs on 30 pounds, you can bet she won't get her 20 million a movie like she does now.

I don't know how Raven looks, and I haven't seen her show, but if she's really blowing up, she should trim down for her health and for her career. It's show business, and most viewers tune in to see stars in shape.

She's a beautiful girl but she does need to watch her weight.

for those who haven't seen Raven lately, here is a picture from Gettyimages taken three days ago (March 1). Raven is not a skinny girl, but I think she is a healthy normal weight, and I think she is a hell of a lot prettier than the bulemic Olsen waifs. I am sorry, but to hell with anorexia and bulimia, women shouldn't have to starve themselves for shallow people.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/52260683.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE3CD9B8550AEAEDDC8E968782481B9BD8621B2AC3A62513D3

for those who haven't seen Raven lately, here is a picture from Gettyimages taken three days ago (March 1). Raven is not a skinny girl, but I think she is a healthy normal weight, and I think she is a hell of a lot prettier than the bulemic Olsen waifs. I am sorry, but to hell with anorexia and bulimia, women shouldn't have to starve themselves for shallow people.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/52260683.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE3CD9B8550AEAEDDC8E968782481B9BD8621B2AC3A62513D3



You can see in her face that she is overweight

Because it's unhealthy and unattractive to be overweight

People like you are the reason there are so many girls with their heads over a towel bowl,and their fingers down their throat.Its also unnattractive and unhealthy to look like this:

http://www2.bc.edu/~zebo/fwsfall2002/pharos/Figure/disturbing%20anorexoa%20II.jpg

And of course,thats a catwalk she's on,i cant imagine that look being normal and acceptable anywhere else.Its absolutely disgusting.Give me Raven's figure any day over that.

I am sorry, but to hell with anorexia and bulimia, women shouldn't have to starve themselves for shallow people.

Of course they shouldn't, but there's a middle ground. I don't think anyone is advocating an eating disorder to stay in shape. It was painful to even look at Calista Flockhart during her Ally McBeal days.

If a celeb is the star of a show, they can maintain their weight by healthy eating and exercise. It's show business. Unless they're hired fat, celebs should stay the size of their character, unless the show runs for 20 years. Most stars manage to keep their weight down during their show's run.

You can see in her face that she is overweight

I bet you also think Kim Coles actually belongs on Celebrity Fit Camp, when I know a lot of people who agree that she doesn't belong alongside the likes of Ralphie May, Biz Markie and the Snapple lady.

Attitudes like yours are why there's stories like Karen Carpenter, who dwindled down to 78 lbs because of criticism that she was "chubby". If it wasn't for that criticism, she might still be with us. I am sorry, but do you honestly think Mary Kate Olsen looks better than Raven?

Of course they shouldn't, but there's a middle ground. I don't think anyone is advocating an eating disorder to stay in shape. It was painful to even look at Calista Flockhart during her Ally McBeal days.

If a celeb is the star of a show, they can maintain their weight by healthy eating and exercise. It's show business. Unless they're hired fat, celebs should stay the size of their character, unless the show runs for 20 years. Most stars manage to keep their weight down during their show's run.

I agree with that, but I don't see anything wrong with a woman fluctuating around 20 lbs. There's been a few cases like Linda Ronstadt or Kathleen Turner where they got so big you don't even recognize them anymore, but I think some women can handle going up (or down) maybe 10-20 lbs and it isn't that drastic. Lisa Whelchel on Facts Of Life was a great example of this, she had about two seasons where she probably weight 30 lbs more than she did the rest of the series, but she was still pretty and still looked decent (and by the end of the show, she was as skinny as ever). People are acting like Raven is going the Kirstie Alley route, and I don't agree. Kirstie actually got fat, Raven just is not waifish.

I think the ratio of male actors who've lost themselves through eating is higher. It almost stuns me to realize I once thought Alec Baldwin was attractive considering what he looks like these days, or definately Chris Penn, he was a cute teenager in Footloose, and not look at him.

I just think Hollywood tends to accept "too skinny" over "too big" and I don't really think it's fair, they told Matt LeBlanc to lose weight on the last season of Friends, but you never saw them telling Courteney Cox to treat herself to an ocasional cheeseburger.

I am sorry, but do you honestly think Mary Kate Olsen looks better than Raven?
Again, you're talking opposite extremes here. Same for the person who just posted the picture of the toothpick. I haven't seen Raven, but if she's tipping the scales at 200 plus, she should get control of her weight.

Nobody wants anyone to look like Karen Carpenter or the Olsen twins, but viewers enjoy watching actors looking their best (not anorexic or bulimic), but not fat either. Hollywood is an escape of sorts. Nobody cares if I gain 50 pounds, but viewers enjoy seeing someone like Patricia Heaton of Everyone Loves Raymond looking great. It's just the way it is. Not saying it's nice, but it's a fact. When you're in the public eye, there are standards regarding weight. Same goes for athletes.

I agree with that, but I don't see anything wrong with a woman fluctuating around 20 lbs. There's been a few cases like Linda Ronstadt or Kathleen Turner where they got so big you don't even recognize them anymore, but I think some women can handle going up (or down) maybe 10-20 lbs and it isn't that drastic. Lisa Whelchel on Facts Of Life was a great example of this, she had about two seasons where she probably weight 30 lbs more than she did the rest of the series, but she was still pretty and still looked decent (and by the end of the show, she was as skinny as ever). People are acting like Raven is going the Kirstie Alley route, and I don't agree. Kirstie actually got fat, Raven just is not waifish.

I think the ratio of male actors who've lost themselves through eating is higher. It almost stuns me to realize I once thought Alec Baldwin was attractive considering what he looks like these days, or definately Chris Penn, he was a cute teenager in Footloose, and not look at him.

I just think Hollywood tends to accept "too skinny" over "too big" and I don't really think it's fair, they told Matt LeBlanc to lose weight on the last season of Friends, but you never saw them telling Courteney Cox to treat herself to an ocasional cheeseburger.
I agree there is a double standard for men and women actors. Although Alec Baldwin's leading man days are over, he manages to get roles of mobsters, politicians, coaches, etc. I did watch a profile on Steven Segal that attributed his career hitting the skids on his battle with weight, but he was an action hero.

Also, I recall a lot of controversy when Lisa Whelchel gained weight...Delta Burke too. The public wants what it wants.

I think that things like bone structure really have a lot to do with weight. My best friend is 5'11 and weights 210, and while he is certainly not thin, the weight he is at looks healthy for him, because it fits his body type. While there are other people who could weigh 210 and be at the same height and look "fat". I think it's all proportionate to your body structure. Raven for example seems to have the bone structure that fits her a lot better when she is "voluptuous" looking, as opposed to 115-120 lbs would. Kinda like how Oprah looks great these days where she's at a comfortable "average", but when she was ultra-thin in the late 80's (who doesn't remember her carrying the wagon with all the meat on it), her head looked too big for her body. I think different people look good at different sizes. Some people aren't meant to be thin (not saying fat, but I mean bigger)

i like girls who are both skinny and who have a little junk in the trunk lolololzeesaz

She's at healthy weight. However, since it's an industry judged a lot on looks, she might want to loose about 5-10 pounds or something, to just make sure that it doesn't get too overboard, but she looks great to me.

I saw her too not too long ago, I noticed she got a little chubby. She's a pretty girl, but she better back up off the table a little bit before she won't get the roles she wants.

I saw her too not too long ago, I noticed she got a little chubby. She's a pretty girl, but she better back up off the table a little bit before she won't get the roles she wants.


oh yeah she'll be gettin all the rolls she wants :lol:

oh yeah she'll be gettin all the rolls she wants :lol:
Like the saying goes...Rolls give you rolls.

And I don't understand why you don't worry about your own business.

Those dinner rolls will get you no roles.

but if the roles require rolls than shell need those rolls

I'm not a fan of Raven at all, but I APPLAUD her because obviously she doesn't CARE about being STICK thin!!

Hollywood is obsessed with being really skinny and I just want to "Go Raven"! for not being a stick! Heck, maybe she LIKES the way she looks. Maybe she's actually comfortable in her own skin. I don't think she's OBESE, but she's not skinny either. Believe it or not some woman actually LIKE being big and are comfortable with.

:lol: @ this topic.


That fatass needs to get her **** together.

People like you are the reason there are so many girls with their heads over a towel bowl,and their fingers down their throat.Its also unnattractive and unhealthy to look like this:

http://www2.bc.edu/~zebo/fwsfall2002/pharos/Figure/disturbing%20anorexoa%20II.jpg

And of course,thats a catwalk she's on,i cant imagine that look being normal and acceptable anywhere else.Its absolutely disgusting.Give me Raven's figure any day over that.

I TOTALLY agree with you! That skinny look is so unattractive, it's sick.

People like you are the reason there are so many girls with their heads over a towel bowl,and their fingers down their throat.Its also unnattractive and unhealthy to look like this:

http://www2.bc.edu/~zebo/fwsfall2002/pharos/Figure/disturbing%20anorexoa%20II.jpg

And of course,thats a catwalk she's on,i cant imagine that look being normal and acceptable anywhere else.Its absolutely disgusting.Give me Raven's figure any day over that.
That's a bit of a dramatization...

People like you are the reason there are so many girls with their heads over a towel bowl,and their fingers down their throat.Its also unnattractive and unhealthy to look like this:

http://www2.bc.edu/~zebo/fwsfall2002/pharos/Figure/disturbing%20anorexoa%20II.jpg

And of course,thats a catwalk she's on,i cant imagine that look being normal and acceptable anywhere else.Its absolutely disgusting.Give me Raven's figure any day over that.

THAT PICTURE IS SO PHOTOSHOPPED

why are people so cruel about women's weight? Raven is actually a healthy normal girl, but because she's not gagging after she eats like Mary-Kate Olsen or someone along those lines, she's "fat". Why should women have to be anorexic? It happens with men too, but not to the same extent, I am 180 lbs and guess what, I'm not gonna deprive myself of food just so I can go down 2 or 3 jean sizes. If you want a sickly anorexic or bulimic entertainer, there's plenty of them.

Comments like this are what killed Karen Carpenter.

Yeah. Where are the comments on all the fat boys, huh?

I think she looks fine the way she is. She obviously doesn't give a crap, so why should we? And Mary-Kate...UGH. She's fugly man. OOGLAY.

I am sorry, but to hell with anorexia and bulimia, women shouldn't have to starve themselves for shallow people.



:cheer:

I'm not a fan of Raven at all, but I APPLAUD her because obviously she doesn't CARE about being STICK thin!!

Hollywood is obsessed with being really skinny and I just want to "Go Raven"! for not being a stick! Heck, maybe she LIKES the way she looks. Maybe she's actually comfortable in her own skin. I don't think she's OBESE, but she's not skinny either. Believe it or not some woman actually LIKE being big and are comfortable with.

Yeah, like Queen Latifah. She's cool with herself. :thumbsup:

I'm not a fan of Raven at all, but I APPLAUD her because obviously she doesn't CARE about being STICK thin!!

Hollywood is obsessed with being really skinny and I just want to "Go Raven"! for not being a stick! Heck, maybe she LIKES the way she looks. Maybe she's actually comfortable in her own skin. I don't think she's OBESE, but she's not skinny either. Believe it or not some woman actually LIKE being big and are comfortable with.

:yourock: took the words straight out of my mouth

Well you know something? Fat guys really disgust me as well.:D

Well you know something? Fat guys really disgust me as well.:D
Actually I think women can still be considered beautiful regardless if they are a little on the heavy side..but men who are fat with their big beer gut is the ugliest thing known to man kind..Yuck puke:

Yep.Whats worse is fat men who expect to pick up slim women.:lol:

Yeah, like Queen Latifah. She's cool with herself. :thumbsup:


i don't think i would like queen latifah as much if she were skinny, she is so pretty the way she is.

define "fat" for a guy.

I personally am partial to (and am myself) to a guy with a little meat on his bones, but not really fat. Someone such as Greg Grunberg, Chad Gilbert, or Mike O'Malley back in his GUTS days (he IS fat now) to me is very cuddly and hot. I like "cubs" and that's what I'd catagorize the guy I like right now as. There's a difference between a cub type of guy, and someone who is like John Goodman or Michael Moore. I am repelled by those types too (tho Goodman wasn't bad when he was on Roseanne when younger and 50 lbs.

I think the same thing is with women, why can't Raven be the size she is, instead of having to either be at the Mama Cass extreme or the Kate Moss extreme. If she WASN'T a celebrity, I don't think anyone would tell her she'd have to lose weight, why not? because she's actually normal instead of "too skinny" like we're accustomed to seeing our stars.

define "fat" for a guy.

I personally am partial to (and am myself) to a guy with a little meat on his bones, but not really fat. Someone such as Greg Grunberg, Chad Gilbert, or Mike O'Malley back in his GUTS days (he IS fat now) to me is very cuddly and hot. I like "cubs" and that's what I'd catagorize the guy I like right now as. There's a difference between a cub type of guy, and someone who is like John Goodman or Michael Moore. I am repelled by those types too (tho Goodman wasn't bad when he was on Roseanne when younger and 50 lbs.

I think the same thing is with women, why can't Raven be the size she is, instead of having to either be at the Mama Cass extreme or the Kate Moss extreme. If she WASN'T a celebrity, I don't think anyone would tell her she'd have to lose weight, why not? because she's actually normal instead of "too skinny" like we're accustomed to seeing our stars.
*dies* :lmao

*dies* :lmao

what did I say that was so damn funny?

why can't Raven be the size she is, instead of having to either be at the Mama Cass extreme or the Kate Moss extreme. If she WASN'T a celebrity, I don't think anyone would tell her she'd have to lose weight, why not? because she's actually normal instead of "too skinny" like we're accustomed to seeing our stars.
But she is a celebrity. When an actor signs on to star in a show, they are selling a product so to speak, and that product is themself. Asthetics matter in the entertainment industry. That's why good looking people get the roles. Someone posted that it's her business if she gains weight. That's not true. She represents a show. She's getting paid well to honor her end of the deal, and she has an obligation to maintain the weight at which she was hired. I'm willing to bet that the producers of her show have talked with her about it. I saw an interview with Kirstie Alley recently. On Cheers, her weight went from 115 to 130, and she was hauled into the office. That's extreme, but networks want what they hired. They don't like to hire a size 6 or 8 and end up with size 14.

People keep bringing up that she or other stars shouldn't have to be too skinny, anorexic, bulimic, etc. Of course they shouldn't. Nobody has said anything of the sort. From the pictures I've seen, Raven is past the stage of normal weight for television. She's on the road to fatsville, and for her own good, she should shed the weight. Let her continue to gain weight. She'll eat herself out of the role if she gets fat. If she finds herself unemployed, then she can eat her way to the size of a Goodyear Blimp, and nobody will care. She should pull in the reigns while she can.

Raven was born this way. You can tell she has huge boobs, and has tried to hide them for years. She could lose 5-10 lbs, but the rest is not going to come off. Unless she starves.
I can't believe this thread.
I'd love to see pictures of you!!!!
It does explain why so many teenage girls are aneorexic :(

I just read the age thread. Explains alot..... ;) :)

I just read the age thread. Explains alot..... ;) :)
What are you talking about?

If so many people have these "weight restrictions" in their contracts, then that's not fair at all. People sue all the time over discrimination in the work place, be it age, gender, race, weight, etc. So why is it any less fair for celebs to not be discriminated against? They're at a job at a work place, just like Joe Blow and Jane Doe. I don't care if they do see it and still sign. That's terrible. If they want to buckle under pressure from fans or producers, then that's their future misfortune. I hope they enjoy being a puppet.

And if America (and the world) can't stand to watch fat actors and actresses, then all those people need to pull their heads out of their asses and get a clue. That's the most shallow thing I have ever heard in my life and it sickens me to realize that we live in such a shallow society. A person's acting ability should be the top factor on why they are hired on a show and that is it. If it was all about looks, we'd be watching a bunch of talentless Barbie and Ken dolls.

As far as Raven is concerned, she's pretty and she's talented. I don't think she's lost tons and tons of fans just because she's "fat." And if she did lose any, then good riddance. Those kind of people aren't real fans at all. I don't care if she is a celebrity, she has no one to answer to but herself. If she's happy with herself, then good for her. All of us should just back off and let the girl live her life.

I saw an interview with Kirstie Alley recently. On Cheers, her weight went from 115 to 130, and she was hauled into the office. That's extreme, but networks want what they hired. They don't like to hire a size 6 or 8 and end up with size 14.


but please, answer to me why it's okay for a celebrity to get skinnier, but not okay for them to gain anything?

Two classic examples of actresses slimming down (tho they were never big in the first place) are Jennifer Aniston and Sarah Michelle Gellar. Compare the pilot episodes for Friends and Buffy The Vampire Slayer, and then the series finales of the same shows, and both of the actresses went from a reasonably healthy weight down to a size 0. And ironically enough, I don't remember as many people thinking Aniston or Gellar were "hot" in 2003 as sticks yet they did several years before when they actually were at a healthy weight image. Why is it okay for those to go down to nothing in weight, but had Aniston and Gellar gained as much weight as they lost, they would be crucified for it?

I remember their was a lot of flack over Delta Burkes weight gain during her last few years of Designing Women and it erupted into a feud with the producers and she was eventually fired.

in addition to her losing weight for her television role, she should also lose some for her own good. it's harder to lose weight than to gain it so she might as well start now while she can.

but please, answer to me why it's okay for a celebrity to get skinnier, but not okay for them to gain anything?
I don't have an answer to that. There was a time when stick thin was in, but I see that trend fading in television. You are right, being too thin is accepted, while gaining weight is not. It's just the way it is, not saying it's fair because it's not. Aniston and Gellar did look great at their healthy weights, and I thought they got too thin, but they weren't under pressure to lose weight. I do recall a lot of negative buzz about Courtney Cox and Calista Flockhart looking skeletal.

This is the just the way it is in Hollywood and has been since the advent of talkies. Movie stars have always had great figures. Most people buy movie tickets to escape into a world of fantasy and perfection. Look no further than the cast of the Oceans Eleven movies. It's like a beauty pageant, and people love it. I watch more movies than anyone I know, and I love lots of movies where it doesn't matter what the stars look like, but if I'm watching a show or movie where the person is cast as beautiful, that's what I want to see. I don't want to suspend disbelief and pretend that the star didn't just pack on 30 pounds.

Shows on television showcase great looking people, more so with women. The wife on The Honeymooners, Donna Reed...these shows were almost 50 years ago. It's always been this way. If Elizabeth Montgomery, Barbara Eden, the women on Gilligan's Island, Ellie May from The Beverly Hillbillies or other beauties had gone up 2 or more dress sizes, they would have heard about it. Elizabeth Montgomery had three children during the run of Bewitched. She had her kids and whipped herself into shape. That shows dedication to her viewers as she knew that they wanted to see a shapely Samantha Stevens. Most stars keep themselves in shape. The handful that don't usually end up wishing they did.

This isn't new. It's always been this way.

The reason I was concerned about Raven's Weight is because She has a very pretty face and it's no point in becoming so overweight that it takes the attention away from her pretty face. Now in Kristie Alley's case, it doesn't matter how big she gets because she is ugly and over 50-LOL

It's her life, if she doesn't want to conform to the way that "celebrities" are supposed to look then why should she? I quite honestly wish a bomb would hit Hollywood and kill the concept of celebrities. I can't even convey how shallow I think the typical American is to gravitate only towards things that are labeled as "cool" or what the people on the TV are doing. People need to start thinking into things a bit more instead of being obsessed with the way someone looks. This thread is the perfect example.

Sorry, this kind of topic drives me crazy. *shimmy*

It's her life, if she doesn't want to conform to the way that "celebrities" are supposed to look then why should she? I quite honestly wish a bomb would hit Hollywood and kill the concept of celebrities. I can't even convey how shallow I think the typical American is to gravitate only towards things that are labeled as "cool" or what the people on the TV are doing. People need to start thinking into things a bit more instead of being obsessed with the way someone looks. This thread is the perfect example.

Sorry, this kind of topic drives me crazy. *shimmy*
This is a civil discussion. Nobody's obsessed with anything. Who are you calling shallow? If it's me you're referring to, then you may want to re-read what I wrote. I don't gravitate only towards cool things. I loved Roseanne's show and other shows where thin wasn't in.

My point is that if someone is cast on a show based on their good looks i.e. weight, they have an obligation to maintain that weight. If they don't want to conform, they don't have to, but they'll wish they did. Celebrities have an obligation to the ones who sign their huge checks.

What if an actor decides to color their hair pink or blue or get obvious tattoos or body piercings. Sorry, there's a lot of money involved in these shows. Stars have to stay with the program or pay the consequences. Most stars know this. I can count on less than two hands actors who let themselves go.

My saying this doesn't make me shallow or obsessed. It makes me a realist.

People should learn to debate calmly without the name calling towards those who don't agree with them.

This is a civil discussion. Nobody's obsessed with anything. Who are you calling shallow? If it's me you're referring to, then you may want to re-read what I wrote. I don't gravitate only towards cool things. I loved Roseanne's show and other shows where thin wasn't in.

My point is that if someone is cast on a show based on their good looks i.e. weight, they have an obligation to maintain that weight. If they don't want to conform, they don't have to, but they'll wish they did. Celebrities have an obligation to the ones who sign their huge checks.

What if an actor decides to color their hair pink or blue or get obvious tattoos or body piercings. Sorry, there's a lot of money involved in these shows. Stars have to stay with the program or pay the consequences. Most stars know this. I can count on less than two hands actors who let themselves go.

My saying this doesn't make me shallow or obsessed. It makes me a realist.

People should learn to debate calmly without the name calling towards those who don't agree with them.

My post wasn't directed towards you or anyone in this thread. I was talking more along the ligns of people (especially today's youth) being obsessed with the images they see on TV. That's just an obversation I've made by being surrounded by my peers.

I'm sorry I didn't clarify my post well...?

My post wasn't directed towards you or anyone in this thread. I was talking more along the ligns of people (especially today's youth) being obsessed with the images they see on TV. That's just an obversation I've made by being surrounded by my peers.

I'm sorry I didn't clarify my post well...?
Please don't be sorry. It's just my hope that members can have good healthy debates. What's your favorite ice cream, dog, cat, car..what's in your medicine cabinet....gets pretty boring. :lol:

I also agree with you in large part. I stated as much early on in this thread. It's a sad state of affairs that we live in such a vain society, but it's always been that way, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Asthetics matter in the entertainment industry. That's why good looking people get the roles.
I'm glad you appreciate us pretty people, Janice.

I'm glad you appreciate us pretty people, Janice.
Are you on a tv show or in a movie? Please tell.

Are you on a tv show or in a movie? Please tell.
Not yet, but have I auditioned for either? No. I am currently in 'Evita' though, thanks. :)

Not yet, but have I auditioned for either? No. I am currently in 'Evita' though, thanks. :)
That's great. Which role?

That's great. Which role?
I didn't audition for this role either really. I just moved home for this semester, and checked online for local community theater's and all the shows for this season had been cast except for one that said MALES NEEDED FOR ENSEMBLE- PLEASE CALL...soo i called and gave a brief bio and such and he's like okay great, you're in. So yeah i'm ensemble..which sucks, but it's experience.

What exactly is it about the character that Raven plays that requires her to be skinny or a certain size? If you ask me I think that it is great she is not a size 0 because basically her show is watched by young girls going through puberty and are self concious about their bodies. If they see this Disney star as a normal size as other regular teenagers that would make them feel better about themselves, and realize that they don't have to be a toothpick to be beautiful. And the stupid part is she is not even fat. I know facts are facts but I'm sticking to my opinion that celebrities are just people just like everyone else and their bodies do normal things like everyone else like gain weight, or age or lose hair etc.