Last night at a movie premier in Hollywood, I spoke at length with a cast member who shall remain nameless. When I asked him about NBC picking AD up for next season, he looked at me a sadly stated, "We got cancelled".

NBC should hold their heads in shame for this travesty. They provided "zero" on-air promo or "tune in" spots for AD, and at LEAST could wait and see how the show would perform in it's new wednesday time slot, before dropping the axe, on one of the best shows to ever grace the TV screen.

If you are equally as disheartened by this situation, please voice your concern to the following:

Kevin Reilly
President, NBC Entertainment
3000 West Alameda Ave.
Burbank, CA. 91523

...It's a rainy day in mudville. The next 4 episodes will always have the true AD fans bittersweetly thinking "What if...."

WHAT!!???????????? But they are still going to finish the season right!?

If its true, it was the worst move in television history.

Maybe I'll join another message board in 40 years when another good tv show comes around. C'ya then.

That makes me wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy mad!!! This is such an awesome show. But aren't they going to wait until the season finale??? Is there the possibility that a cable network could pick it up??? I really hope so! :( :(

Is this a forsure thing, has anyone else heard anything about NBC announcing that AD has been cancelled already?

No i haven't heard.So I don't think they will cancel AD without giving it a chance on its new night.Mel :cool:

I hope not. I feel like it might do better then we expect on Wed. Fingers crossed!

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I really hope this isn't true!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please tell me it's an early April Fool's joke!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

This isn't an April Fools joke either. I'm not going to say which cast member it was that told me this, but they were extremely disappointed.

My wife and I told them that we LOVE the show and watched it religiously and they said that NBC had definitley pulled the plug on one of the best shows to ever hit television.

They at LEAST needed to try it out in the new time slot. This is a travesty and letters definitely need to be written to NBC.

So you're saying its not even going to finish the season? Because that can't be true since they have to name who won the Campbells contest thing.

Just wondering, why can't you say which cast member it was??

Member just joined yesterday I think its a Hoax.I find it odd they won't tell us which castmember told them and they won't say what movie Premiere that went to last night and found this castmember .So if you want to go along with this little game you all can but like I say they won't just cancel a show without given its new night a chance.So if you want to go along with this member you all can like I said.I won't stop ya..Mel :wave:

I will not believe it until NBC actually announces it. It would be stupid to cancel it without even knowing how well it could do on Wed. I seriously doubt that they would do that especially sice Jeff Zucker likes the show.

Wow, then that cast member must know a lot more than all the the American Dreams production staff, including Jonathan Prince, because they have heard no such thing. I certainly don't believe it.

Yeah......I agree with "storywriter" on this one. This person just joined. Why didn't they join before if they loved the show that much.
I don't believe it. I don't.

Peace.

Anything to say "Dreamin' since day 1" ?

As a entertainment professional, I share the love of this show with all who visit this site. I have would have nothing to gain by lying to you, and I am equally disheartened by this recent revelation.

In response to those who've questioned the fact that I am a "new" member to this site, well that fact is true. I've never had anything substantial to share and therefore have not participated in any previous postings. Prior to joining this site I would visit to check for "spoilers" or any new information pertaining to the storyline development of AD.

And finally, the reason that I will not disclose the source of my information because as I stated earlier, I am a "Professional", and to do so would be the antithesis of who I am.

Now, if you'd like to conduct your own investigative work to possibly deduce who my direct source is, I WILL provide you with the following clue....The movie premier that I attended and spoke at length with an AD cast member regarding the shows cancellation, will open in theaters this coming friday so be sure to log that in your "Diary".

So if this is true, then when will NBC formally announce it? I'm not saying that I don't believe you, but I want some confirmation in this before I give up hope. :(

I think that guy/gal was just trying to make us send postcards (which we should still all do!). He/She must have thought that if we thought it was cancelled, we'd send postcards.

I think that guy/gal was just trying to make us send postcards (which we should still all do!). He/She must have thought that if we thought it was cancelled, we'd send postcards.

Well I'm going to do that anyway!
I just really hope that this isn't true!!! If it is, I will be heartbroken! :( :(

AD's ratings, currently, are on par with the Saturday reruns of Law & Order series and with cancelled shows like Clubhouse and LAX. In fact, currently there's only a 300,000 viewer difference between it and Hawaii, which wasn't around two months

When will we get a true solid answer as to whether or not it has been renewed?

When will we get a true solid answer as to whether or not it has been renewed?

May is when the NBC Fall schedule will be out, so there will be a definite answer then.

People in the AD production office say that we will hear earlier than May about the fate of the show, but there is no DEFINITIVE answer as to when it will be.

So don't procrastinate re: writing the presidents and sponsors, do it now! :)

I hate waiting! This is awful!!!! :( :( :( :(

so is the show already cancelled or no?

so is the show already cancelled or no?

We don't know yet. :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Its not cancelled I think it retuns March 9th and its a Wednesday at 8pm and that will be its new night.Mel :cool: so is the show already cancelled or no?

March 9?
Shoot, I had hoped it would be next week, since someone said "March" and next Wed is March.
Are you sure?

Peace.

March 9?
Shoot, I had hoped it would be next week, since someone said "March" and next Wed is March.
Are you sure?

Peace.
I had read it at Tv Tome American Dreams but i'm not sure if the information at Tome is 100% accurate because sometimes its not so I just look in my Tv Guide when it comes each week in the mail.Mel :cool:

Yes... it's always been March 9th.

Next Wednesday is still in Sweeps(the last night) and NBC is running Dateline.

Its not cancelled I think it retuns March 9th and its a Wednesday at 8pm and that will be its new night.Mel :cool:

what I meant was if NBC has already decided if this is the last season
but thanks anyway ;) !

what I meant was if NBC has already decided if this is the last season
but thanks anyway ;) !


We don't know that yet...we just have to wait and hope and send letters!

Wait...I'm confused,so the person tha started this topic was lying?

Wait...I'm confused,so the person tha started this topic was lying?Well I'm sorry to say I don't believe them.Because I find odd they won't name what castmember they saw and talked too and with Security and Bodyguards at the movie premiere probably wouldn't let them go up to the stars.But if everyone else wants to believe them go right ahead.Mel
:cool:

Wait...I'm confused,so the person tha started this topic was lying?


I think our best bet is to wait until we hear official news from NBC.

What we can't figure out:
If what the poster said was true, or not.

It's hard to imagine someone could get their "jollies" by just posting rubbish. But anything is possible, especially on the internet.

Supposedly we got a "clue" from the poster:
"I went to a premiere of a movie opening up on the following Friday (which was the most recent Friday".

Now, how is THAT a clue, unless that movie had someone in it or someone had something to do with it that ALSO has something to do with AD?

The obvious assumption is that the "actor/actress" the poster talked to is IN the movie just released.........or has SOMETHING to do with a just released movie.

Brittany Snow has one coming out.........but not until March 4 or so.

Anyone got any clue of any AD cast member that has something to do with a movie just released this past Friday?

Peace.

What we can't figure out:
If what the poster said was true, or not.

It's hard to imagine someone could get their "jollies" by just posting rubbish. But anything is possible, especially on the internet.

Supposedly we got a "clue" from the poster:
"I went to a premiere of a movie opening up on the following Friday (which was the most recent Friday".

Now, how is THAT a clue, unless that movie had someone in it or someone had something to do with it that ALSO has something to do with AD?

The obvious assumption is that the "actor/actress" the poster talked to is IN the movie just released.........or has SOMETHING to do with a just released movie.

Brittany Snow has one coming out.........but not until March 4 or so.

Anyone got any clue of any AD cast member that has something to do with a movie just released this past Friday?

Peace.

All I know is Brittany Snow being in 'The Pacifier' and I'm not sure when that premeir was.

If you really want to get into deciphering the 'clues', (which I hate by the way, Blind Riddles, etc... it's so elementary school... "I know something you don't know! Nah nah nah nah nah nah." But I digress...)

He posted on Feb. 23rd and said that he went to the movie premiere the night before... so that would be Feb. 22nd. Then he said later "log that in your Diary."

The movie "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" had their premiere in Hollywood on Feb 22nd, but there are no pictures I can find of any AD cast member attending.

Yeah Brittany Snows movie comes out this friday March 4th and Vanessa has one called The Perfect Man I read out August 12 2005 and I read Hilary will be in that one with Vanessa but that's not out until August no cast member has any connection with "Diary Of A Mad Black Woman" what so ever and even if a cast member was there I don't think Security or cops would even let a so called strangers walk up to a castmember because you don't know what to suspect with that stranger.Mel :cool:

So I guess we should just wait till NBC says something...

Could it be Milo Ventimilglia??? Isn't he in cursed and that came to theaters on Friday. Well here anyway. :confused:

Yeah, but he's not really a regular cast member. And I think he was done with the show anyway.

I never heard of Milo Ventimiglia........no disrespect to him.
I haven't see all the AD shows though.

But think of the odds of an actor/actress having some connection with AD......AND being in a movie with the word DIARY in it........AND having it have a premiere the night the "poster" posted his/her story about the show being canelled.

I don't know about you guys, but it seems to me this is where the poster got his/her news.

I did some reseach at IMDB.com and found he has been in 11 out of the last 12 episodes ending in late January. I don't know if he will be on in March.
Sounds like he was pretty much "there" when things happened.

Is there a way we can get in touch with Milo and find out?

Does he have a web site?

Peace.

I never heard of Milo Ventimiglia........no disrespect to him.
I haven't see all the AD shows though.

But think of the odds of an actor/actress having some connection with AD......AND being in a movie with the word DIARY in it........AND having it have a premiere the night the "poster" posted his/her story about the show being canelled.

I don't know about you guys, but it seems to me this is where the poster got his/her news.

I did some reseach at IMDB.com and found he has been in 11 out of the last 12 episodes ending in late January. I don't know if he will be on in March.
Sounds like he was pretty much "there" when things happened.

Is there a way we can get in touch with Milo and find out?

Does he have a web site?

Peace.

I am a HUGE Milo Ventimiglia fan! He rocked our world as Jess Mariano on Gilmore Girls!! And, he was great as Chris too! So it very well could be him! I feel so stupid for not thinking of it. But I do think 'Chris' is pretty much done with the show.

As for getting in touch with him...good luck, he's pretty big, well amongst the WB audience he is. (He's signed for a new WB show.)

I think your best bet is to do a Yahoo search on Milo sites. I used to have a few bookmarked, but that was on my old computer. :(

ok, this sucks sooo bad. I have been avoiding this forum, because i knew we would get bad news like this soon. I really dont want to believe it, but i can't help it. Also, why why why are they moving it to wednesdays at 8!! that is a horrible spot being put up against Lost!! well, i guess we can only wait until the official news........damnit :(

ok, this sucks sooo bad. I have been avoiding this forum, because i knew we would get bad news like this soon. I really dont want to believe it, but i can't help it. Also, why why why are they moving it to wednesdays at 8!! that is a horrible spot being put up against Lost!! well, i guess we can only wait until the official news........damnit :(

All we can do is sit and wait californiadreamin....sit and wait and hope that NBC will show us a shred of humanity and save American Dreams! I mean, if garbage shows like Fear Factor (in my opinion anyway) and whatnot can get renewed, why not a quality family drama that both entertains and educates? Let's keep hope alive!!

AD Fan Club hit the nail on the head. An AD castmember did attend the Premier for "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" and that is who provided the info. This person shall still remain namless though.

And "Storywriter", If you've ever attended a movie premier in your life, you'd know that the Hollywood Stars frequently mix and mingle with the other industry attendees. Most of the talent that you would want to speak with are relatively easy to access.

And finally, I NEVER once stated in any previous postings that an AD castmember was starring in the film for the premier in which I was at attendance.

Even though this info. was shared with me, I'm with the rest of you and sincerely hope that NBC has a change of heart.

AD Fan Club hit the nail on the head. An AD castmember did attend the Premier for "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" and that is who provided the info. This person shall still remain namless though.

And "Storywriter", If you've ever attended a movie premier in your life, you'd know that the Hollywood Stars frequently mix and mingle with the other industry attendees. Most of the talent that you would want to speak with are relatively easy to access.

And finally, I NEVER once stated in any previous postings that an AD castmember was starring in the film for the premier in which I was at attendance.

Even though this info. was shared with me, I'm with the rest of you and sincerely hope that NBC has a change of heart.
Anyway I will wait for word from NBC about this .Talk to the majority of you March 9th when AD returns if I decide to still post here.Which the chances of that are slim.Take Care :cool:

The mystery poster says:
"And finally, I NEVER once stated in any previous postings that an AD castmember was starring in the film for the premier in which I was in attendance."

That was me who blew it. Sorry. Anyway.....the movie premier did NOT match the movie opening on Friday with an AD cast member.....it was a different movie Milo is in.....not the "diary" one.

So I'm human.

At least I believe you more now.

Peace.

So....what does this mean???? :( :( :( :( :(

In my opinion I think its just more confirmation that we need to send postcards and vote at e on line to save the show. Everyone says we won't know forsure until May but depending on how the last four eps. go I'm sure we'll have some idea, I would hope they won't end the show for good with a major cliff hanger, but who knows? :rolleyes:

In my opinion I think its just more confirmation that we need to send postcards and vote at e on line to save the show. Everyone says we won't know forsure until May but depending on how the last four eps. go I'm sure we'll have some idea, I would hope they won't end the show for good with a major cliff hanger, but who knows? :rolleyes:

I hope they don't end the show with a major cliffhanger either. Wait...scratch that, I hope they don't end the show!!!!!!!! :mad:

"They" said they filmed episode #17 to be the "end" of the season, just in case they didn't go to #19. As we all know, the last 2 episodes were cut off this year, so 17 will be the last one.

Would they make it a cliffhanger......ie, one that makes you wait until next year (if there is one) to see what happens?
Who knows.....they probably made it like any other last episode of any other year. If there is any consistency in the previous years' last episodes, you will probably find it in this one.

We only will know come March 30.

But like all of you have said during this year of ups and downs:

"Hey, we all have lives, I will live mine no matter what happens"

Peace.

So does that mean the last four eps.will air consecutively?

WOW........good question.

I just assumed they would air every Wed. But with how this year has gone........WHO KNOWS?

Not me.

Peace.

I read in next weeks TV Guide from a quote from Johnathan Prince- the producer of the show-that he made a final ep for the show that he hopes he never has to air. I hope so too. :stressed:

"They" said they filmed episode #17 to be the "end" of the season, just in case they didn't go to #19. As we all know, the last 2 episodes were cut off this year, so 17 will be the last one.

Would they make it a cliffhanger......ie, one that makes you wait until next year (if there is one) to see what happens?
Who knows.....they probably made it like any other last episode of any other year. If there is any consistency in the previous years' last episodes, you will probably find it in this one.

We only will know come March 30.

But like all of you have said during this year of ups and downs:

"Hey, we all have lives, I will live mine no matter what happens"

Peace.I will tell all of you usually if a show ends in a cliffhanger most of the times that's a good sign the show may return the majority of times.North Shore ended in a Cliffhanger so it could return and if AD ends in a Cliffhanger usually its a sign it may return because they don't want to leave viewers hanging usually.You know what I'm saying.Mel :cool:

I will tell all of you usually if a show ends in a cliffhanger most of the times that's a good sign the show may return the majority of times.North Shore ended in a Cliffhanger so it could return and if AD ends in a Cliffhanger usually its a sign it may return because they don't want to leave viewers hanging usually.You know what I'm saying.Mel :cool:


Popular ended rather uncertainly.... :eek:

Popular ended rather uncertainly.... :eek:Um I do recall saying usually not definitely in my post and I know how Popular ended I used to watch it and boy is sucked the way they ended that.No clue what happen to them all.But Season 2 of Popular is coming out soon so maybe the unaired episode will air on that.Mel :cool:

Um I do recall saying usually not definitely in my post and I know how Popular ended I used to watch it and boy is sucked the way they ended that.No clue what happen to them all.But Season 2 of Popular is coming out soon so maybe the unaired episode will air on that.Mel :cool:


I wasn't trying to argue against what you said, I was just giving Popular as an example.

I hated the way it ended. :mad:

I'm trying to follow the logic with everyone trying to figure out if we are cancelled or not.
I don't get it.

Supposedly the producers know if cancellation has happened BEFORE they make all of their shows.......and film the LAST one in an appropriate manner?

What about an earlier post in this forum about the actors sometimes showing up to work, only to find out the show has been cancelled?
That totally argues against "them" knowing anything, based upon filming, about cancellation.

And what about an earlier poster here saying we don't know until May, when NBC announces its fall lineup, if we are renewed or not?

It does appear, from Jonathan Prince's interview, that he filmed an episode that supposedly he does not want to air, signifying the end of the show.
Would NBC spend the TIME and MONEY filming a show-ending episode and not show it?
Do they have that kind of money to throw around?
If so, why not spend THAT money on advertising the show instead?
Maybe it's not enough money to use for advertising......I don't know the costs of advertising.

I don't know the "industry" that well.......and perhaps this is a question better answered by "tvobscurities" (but I haven't heard from him/her in quite awhile)....but is it an accepted practice to spend the time and money filming show-ending episodes and then not air them if the show is renewed?

Or was this a "message" from Jonathan Prince that the show is cancelled?

Seems like kind of a waste to me.......but they deal with a lot more money than I do......so maybe it's okay to them.
Just my two cents.......and not their millions of dollars.

Peace.

I wasn't trying to argue against what you said, I was just giving Popular as an example.

I hated the way it ended. :mad:Yeah it sucked the way they ended that's the WB for ya another network that screws with their shows for fake reality crap.This is the second time WB has screwed with One Tree Hill putting in on hiatus until April 19th for some fake reality crap like Starlet.I think the Networks care more about their fake reality crap than their dramas and sitcoms unless its that horrible show I watched a few times called 24.Mel :cool:

I'm trying to follow the logic with everyone trying to figure out if we are cancelled or not.
I don't get it.

Supposedly the producers know if cancellation has happened BEFORE they make all of their shows.......and film the LAST one in an appropriate manner?

What about an earlier post in this forum about the actors sometimes showing up to work, only to find out the show has been cancelled?
That totally argues against "them" knowing anything, based upon filming, about cancellation.

And what about an earlier poster here saying we don't know until May, when NBC announces its fall lineup, if we are renewed or not?

It does appear, from Jonathan Prince's interview, that he filmed an episode that supposedly he does not want to air, signifying the end of the show.
Would NBC spend the TIME and MONEY filming a show-ending episode and not show it?
Do they have that kind of money to throw around?
If so, why not spend THAT money on advertising the show instead?
Maybe it's not enough money to use for advertising......I don't know the costs of advertising.

I don't know the "industry" that well.......and perhaps this is a question better answered by "tvobscurities" (but I haven't heard from him/her in quite awhile)....but is it an accepted practice to spend the time and money filming show-ending episodes and then not air them if the show is renewed?

Or was this a "message" from Jonathan Prince that the show is cancelled?

Seems like kind of a waste to me.......but they deal with a lot more money than I do......so maybe it's okay to them.
Just my two cents.......and not their millions of dollars.

Peace.I'm not really getting or worked up about the answer to our AD mystery.I just know its will be on March 9th 8pm and I do say I think it is May sometime when they announce whats returnning Next Fall.But the person you mention whom hasn't been around awhile will know better than me.I just watch the show and have fun watching the show and many thing I say I am truly guessing at however Imdon't see why the advertisement for the show would be expensive.I would think the show itself would be more expensive than advertising for the show.NBC must be cheap.Mel :)

In my opinion I'm not going to be 100% sure that the show is going for a fourth season until I see it aired. With TV I think you never really know what they plan to do, and if something better comes along they'll bump a quality program for "reality tv crap" or anything else they think might generate bigger and better ratings. Hopefully AD will show up on next years line up, but I won't fully believe it until I see it. I read on E that all of the networks are scrambling to generate better ratings to keep up with ABC this year and in the process of doing that much of their strategy is out with the old in with the new. Hopefully that doesn't enclude our favorites!

NBC is really trying to just kill the show. Look at the March schedule:

58. 3-15 9 Mar 05 The Commencement (http://www.tvtome.com/AmericanDreams/season3.html#ep58)
59. 3-16 315 23 Mar 05 Escape to LA (http://www.tvtome.com/AmericanDreams/season3.html#ep59)

No episode on the 16th and the 17th is the last one.

I thought there was supposed to be four episodes left?

I thought there was supposed to be four episodes left?

Your right...

58.3-14 09-Mar-2005 The Commencement (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-10784/epid-397979/)

58.3-15 16-Mar-2005 California Dreamin' (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-10784/epid-385216/)

59.3-16 23-Mar-2005 Escape to LA (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-10784/epid-386445/)

But that means only one episode left after March 23rd and the TV season doesn't end til May. This show is defintely in it's last season.

Yes that does seem early, but If I am not mistaken seasons one and two also ended very early in the season. I want to say March or April. So hopefully an end of March season finale won't be a big deal.

Season 1 ended on May 18 and season 2 ended on April 4. I checked on TV tome, so it wouldn't be completely odd if it ended early april. It seems like they always shorten a series after the first year anyway.

All of this doesn't sound good. :( :( :(

You're not alone......I think most of us think/fear something is up.
Just doesn't have the feel of things going good......you know?

I guess we just have to hope for the best.

Peace.

Season 1 ended on May 18 and season 2 ended on April 4. I checked on TV tome, so it wouldn't be completely odd if it ended early april. It seems like they always shorten a series after the first year anyway.

Only when they have low ratings... if they pull in good ratings, they try to show as many episodes as they can.

Well, that is terrible news considering they've already shorten the season.

Well, that is terrible news considering they've already shorten the season

Only when they have low ratings... if they pull in good ratings, they try to show as many episodes as they can.

Well, that's terrible news considering they've already cut back the season to 17 eps. :(

Let's hope that they keep our beloved show!!!!

I know they probably won't read this,

but:

PLEASE NBC, SAVE OUR SHOW!!!!

We all are well aware that our show's ratings have been below par for what NBC wants.
Evidence is the move to Wed. nights and that repeats of Law and Order (in our old Sunday spot) are beating even our best ratings of this year.

Our only hope seems to be if NBC doesn't need that high of ratings for Wed.
We will find out.

Peace.