View Full Version : Whats the BEST country in the world?


apple cheeks
02-17-2005, 03:34 AM
Best country in the world is....

Georgia's on my Mind
02-17-2005, 03:48 AM
England

Belair
02-17-2005, 03:55 AM
Italy.
Good food,great people,beautiful scenery.

Stormtracker TF
02-17-2005, 04:41 AM
Best country in the world is....
I'm living in it.

Yes I am biased.

dawsongirl
02-17-2005, 04:42 AM
I'm living in it.

Yes I am biased.
Me too. Besides, I've only been to Canada and here in the US.

Stormtracker TF
02-17-2005, 04:43 AM
Me too. Besides, I've only been to Canada and here in the US.
Same here.

Mr. Television
02-17-2005, 04:45 AM
I'm living in it.

Yes I am biased.


I'm biased too. Of course this is the only country I've ever been in.

Chelsea
02-17-2005, 05:14 AM
Canada...

Mijada
02-17-2005, 06:53 AM
U.S.A. I hear Australia is very nice. I hope to visit there someday.

Lee
02-17-2005, 07:00 AM
United States, followed by England and New Zealand.

bandito
02-17-2005, 07:51 AM
U.S.A.

*MIBabe03*
02-17-2005, 09:41 AM
U.S.A.! patriot:

ABlairican Pie
02-17-2005, 09:49 AM
Any country where Iron Maiden can sell out their concerts.

Norway, Sweden, and Finland for starters.

Brent88
02-17-2005, 10:15 AM
U.S.A. patriot: :rock:

Janice
02-17-2005, 10:36 AM
The good ole U.S.A.

Seinatra
02-17-2005, 10:54 AM
Trinidad & Tobago

http://www.visittnt.com/codn2k5/content.asp?s=2&p=1

80s_Fan
02-17-2005, 11:30 AM
:woohoo:

For me, it's where I live right now; Canada

Moonlight Lady
02-17-2005, 01:28 PM
USA patriot:

M82A1
02-17-2005, 02:05 PM
Nippon (Japan).

The author of this thread wasn't really specific.

MsOrange
02-17-2005, 02:09 PM
Well, the only country outside the US that i've been to is Canada. And they made me pay to get back in, so therefore, my fav. is the US.

Nighthawk76
02-17-2005, 02:17 PM
To quote Bruce Springsteen I was born in the U.S.A. and am very proud that I was. patriot: I do wish to visit England one day though.

Fleet
02-17-2005, 04:58 PM
U.S.A.
A person has the best chance of being a success in the U.S.
Here is an interesting article which I saved from the National Enquirer back in 1979.

The ratings generally match the posts here.

Janet McFarland
02-17-2005, 04:59 PM
USA of course. I'd like to visit Italy though.

crystals
02-17-2005, 05:00 PM
Canada is the best country. Where I live right now.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
02-17-2005, 05:01 PM
SOmething my World History teacher told us today really made me hate the US. It not only didn't sign something that most of the world is involved in which has to do with global warming, but that no representatives even attended a meeting. So **** America. Now I see what Sarah's been saying *waits for post to get deleted* I'm sorry, but that just really bothered me. Delete it, I just had to get that out.

Italy or Australia.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
02-17-2005, 05:04 PM
SOmething my World History teacher told us today really made me hate the US. It not only didn't sign something that most of the world is involved in which has to do with global warming, but that no representatives even attended a meeting. So **** America. Now I see what Sarah's been saying *waits for post to get deleted* I'm sorry, but that just really bothered me. Delete it, I just had to get that out.

Italy or Australia.
And we're also third from last in smarts or something with school. So the kids are dumb, too.

x3 Taylor x3
02-17-2005, 05:07 PM
U.S.A.

Fleet
02-17-2005, 05:18 PM
The "Global Warming" subject is only a theory.
Here is a chart from the World Climate Review, University of Virginia. Figures from Northern Hemisphere, using 1890 as a base year. Computer model developed at Geophysical laboratory, Princeton, NJ, graph by Lincoln Studios.

I remember, back in the '70s, the earth was supposed to have been getting colder!

Seinatra
02-17-2005, 05:49 PM
" person has the best chance of being a success in the U.S.
Here is an interesting article which I saved from the National Enquirer back in 1979."

Nice old article there Fleet, but USSR and East Germany in the top 10??

Anyway I hope the earth gets a lot warmer, winter sucks. Come on Mother Nature, Bring The Heat!

Seinatra
02-17-2005, 05:59 PM
SOmething my World History teacher told us today really made me hate the US. It not only didn't sign something that most of the world is involved in which has to do with global warming, but that no representatives even attended a meeting. So **** America. Now I see what Sarah's been saying *waits for post to get deleted* I'm sorry, but that just really bothered me. Delete it, I just had to get that out.

Italy or Australia.


You may want to take Australia off of your list, as they also refused to sign the Kyoto pact.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/040526/2/p65y.html

Old article, but I think that is still their position.

Hollow
02-17-2005, 06:17 PM
SOmething my World History teacher told us today really made me hate the US. It not only didn't sign something that most of the world is involved in which has to do with global warming, but that no representatives even attended a meeting. So **** America. Now I see what Sarah's been saying *waits for post to get deleted* I'm sorry, but that just really bothered me. Delete it, I just had to get that out.

Italy or Australia.
haha. **** america, as well as everyone who gives me **** for saying that ("THESE PEOPLE FOUGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN BASH THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!! STUPID ATTENTION WHORE!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE YOU'LL BE BETTER OFF IN IRAQ!!!!!!1") for the record, i wouldn't want to live anywhere else, so up yours. :)

M82A1
02-17-2005, 09:19 PM
haha. **** america, as well as everyone who gives me **** for saying that ("THESE PEOPLE FOUGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN BASH THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!! STUPID ATTENTION WHORE!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE YOU'LL BE BETTER OFF IN IRAQ!!!!!!1") for the record, i wouldn't want to live anywhere else, so up yours. :)
Wow. I never pictured you as much of a patriot.

I'm going to take back my previous choice. The U.S. of A. kicks ass!

Czas na Zywiec
02-17-2005, 09:25 PM
U.S.A.
A person has the best chance of being a success in the U.S.
Here is an interesting article which I saved from the National Enquirer back in 1979.

The ratings generally match the posts here.

USSR? Even when that country existed, I would hardly place it at the top of any best list. And East Germany over West Germany? Right, that's the reason why the density in the West is much higher and why lands in the eastern half are becoming barren year after year.

Lots of things have changed since 1979....36 years have passed. That's a long period of time.Here's a more updated list, the Worldwide Quality of Life Index for 2005.

http://www.economist.com/images/worldin2005/qualitytable.gif

Dutabi84
02-17-2005, 09:30 PM
I'm just fine and dandy with the U.S.A.

Czas na Zywiec
02-17-2005, 09:30 PM
The "Global Warming" subject is only a theory.
Here is a chart from the World Climate Review, University of Virginia. Figures from Northern Hemisphere, using 1890 as a base year. Computer model developed at Geophysical laboratory, Princeton, NJ, graph by Lincoln Studios.

I remember, back in the '70s, the earth was supposed to have been getting colder!

Theory? Well that would explain why winters in Scandinavia and the northen half of Europe have been recieving little or no snow acummilation. Summers have been hotter than ever and every year, it seems to snow less and less and summers last longer. That's very unusual weather, especially for such a sterotypically cold part of Europe. Global warming is the real deal and people can already feel its affects. Last winter was the warmest one I've ever seen in my hometown, and relatives have been telling me that this winter has been even warmer.

theshark8777
02-17-2005, 10:02 PM
Canada, but not French Canada.

Cactus Jack
02-17-2005, 10:06 PM
America!

Fleet
02-17-2005, 10:12 PM
Theory? Well that would explain why winters in Scandinavia and the northen half of Europe have been recieving little or no snow acummilation. Summers have been hotter than ever and every year, it seems to snow less and less and summers last longer. That's very unusual weather, especially for such a sterotypically cold part of Europe. Global warming is the real deal and people can already feel its affects. Last winter was the warmest one I've ever seen in my hometown, and relatives have been telling me that this winter has been even warmer.
One of my interests is meteorology/climatology. In the last thousands of years, there have been inter-glacial periods (warmer weather than average) and glacial periods. It's happened in the past and it will happen in the future.
As the chart shows, the predicted warming was set way too high.

Fleet
02-17-2005, 10:21 PM
USSR? Even when that country existed, I would hardly place it at the top of any best list. And East Germany over West Germany? Right, that's the reason why the density in the West is much higher and why lands in the eastern half are becoming barren year after year.

Lots of things have changed since 1979....36 years have passed. That's a long period of time.Here's a more updated list, the Worldwide Quality of Life Index for 2005.

Yeah, I was surprised that the USSR and East Germany were that high. The study was done by a Dr. Ben-Chieh Liu of the Midwest Research Institute in Kansas and fellow economist Claude Anderson of the Electric Power Research Institute in Palo Alto, Calif.

The 2005 list... I wonder what the basis of ranking was? The study and rankings I posted took into consideration standard of living, health and education, condition of the environment, energy and food consumption, infant mortality and number of children in schools, among other things.
I find it very hard to believe that Singapore outranked the U.S.! Also, many of those European countries listed... don't forget their very high tax rates cut into the standard of living.

Fleet
02-17-2005, 10:23 PM
haha. **** america, as well as everyone who gives me **** for saying that ("THESE PEOPLE FOUGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN BASH THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!! STUPID ATTENTION WHORE!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE YOU'LL BE BETTER OFF IN IRAQ!!!!!!1") for the record, i wouldn't want to live anywhere else, so up yours. :)
So you curse the U.S. but wouldn't want to live anywhere else?
As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating."

Chelsea
02-17-2005, 10:35 PM
http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf (www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf)

All the info *should* be contained within

Caffeine King
02-17-2005, 10:46 PM
bar none, the goo ol' USA!

I've never been to another country but I'm sure there is no country that can top the US (in my eyes at least)

Czas na Zywiec
02-17-2005, 10:55 PM
Yeah, I was surprised that the USSR and East Germany were that high. The study was done by a Dr. Ben-Chieh Liu of the Midwest Research Institute in Kansas and fellow economist Claude Anderson of the Electric Power Research Institute in Palo Alto, Calif.

The 2005 list... I wonder what the basis of ranking was? The study and rankings I posted took into consideration standard of living, health and education, condition of the environment, energy and food consumption, infant mortality and number of children in schools, among other things.
I find it very hard to believe that Singapore outranked the U.S.! Also, many of those European countries listed... don't forget their very high tax rates cut into the standard of living.

It takes everything into account - GDP, life expectancy, family life, job security, climate and geography, gender equality, social and community life, health, etc., etc.

Smaller nations tend to have a better quality of life then larger ones, which is why Russia is ranked so low on the list, and countries like Luxemburg, Singapore, Hong Kong, Slovenia, Malta, etc., ranked much higher. Singapore is a city-state. It's one big city occupying an entire island and can probably fit into the metro New York City area. It doesn't have many poor parts, just what's standard for any major city. The US has East LA, The Bronx, intercity Detroit, Chicago, Washington DC, many parts of the South, etc. And it makes sense why Luxemburg is so high up on the list - it's a tiny country compared to the US.

Higher tax rates don't cut into the standard of living. Because of that, many countries have well maintained public facilites, free education from 1st grade through graduate school, with only a small fee to pay for college aged students (About €400 a semester in Germany compared to what I'm paying, $5000, and even worse for an out of state student - $35000). Medication and health care is also of no charge. So in the end, it all works out. The US is stil very high up on the list - don't get me wrong. It's just because of it's massive size and low population density that puts it down a bit.

Fleet
02-17-2005, 10:55 PM
Global warming is the real deal and people can already feel its affects. Last winter was the warmest one I've ever seen in my hometown, and relatives have been telling me that this winter has been even warmer.
It's really impossible to prove there is global warming, and it's impossible to prove there isn't.
But if global warming is caused by man, why was it hotter in 1000 A.D. than it is today?
Also, China pollutes more per year than the U.S. does, yet the Chinese are exempt from the Kyoto treaty.

M82A1
02-18-2005, 12:25 AM
One of my interests is meteorology/climatology. In the last thousands of years, there have been inter-glacial periods (warmer weather than average) and glacial periods. It's happened in the past and it will happen in the future.
As the chart shows, the predicted warming was set way too high.
Exactly. We are still living in the ice age that began over 10,000 years ago. I guess this "global warming" thing means that it's ending, hmm?

Sara Micelli
02-18-2005, 12:35 AM
United States of America. Vietnam follows closely behind it.

vienna waits
02-18-2005, 12:38 AM
America duuhhhhhhhhh

I can't imagine living anywhere else.

Fleet
02-18-2005, 01:06 AM
It takes everything into account - GDP, life expectancy, family life, job security, climate and geography, gender equality, social and community life, health, etc., etc.

Smaller nations tend to have a better quality of life then larger ones, which is why Russia is ranked so low on the list, and countries like Luxemburg, Singapore, Hong Kong, Slovenia, Malta, etc., ranked much higher. Singapore is a city-state. It's one big city occupying an entire island and can probably fit into the metro New York City area. It doesn't have many poor parts, just what's standard for any major city. The US has East LA, The Bronx, intercity Detroit, Chicago, Washington DC, many parts of the South, etc. And it makes sense why Luxemburg is so high up on the list - it's a tiny country compared to the US.

Higher tax rates don't cut into the standard of living. Because of that, many countries have well maintained public facilites, free education from 1st grade through graduate school, with only a small fee to pay for college aged students (About €400 a semester in Germany compared to what I'm paying, $5000, and even worse for an out of state student - $35000). Medication and health care is also of no charge. So in the end, it all works out. The US is stil very high up on the list - don't get me wrong. It's just because of it's massive size and low population density that puts it down a bit.
Okay, thanks for the explanation.
Somehow, I don't think we'll see people flocking to Singapore no matter where they place on the list.

Higher tax rates prevent private citizens from spending more than they sometimes would. Since the government gets some money when people spend, it actually hurts the government, too.
The health care may be free, but the service is very slow. That's one reason why many Canadians go to the U.S. for surgeries such as bypass because the waiting list is very long in Canada and many people don't want to risk waiting.

Fleet
02-18-2005, 01:08 AM
Exactly. We are still living in the ice age that began over 10,000 years ago. I guess this "global warming" thing means that it's ending, hmm?
Yeah, I guess it's time to break out the swimsuits. :D

M82A1
02-18-2005, 01:31 AM
Yeah, I guess it's time to break out the swimsuits. :D
:woohoo:

SBTB Geek
02-18-2005, 02:03 AM
That list which was just posted was full of crap... Spain at #10?!... That is a terrible country to live in, it's beautiful and everything, but it is extremely difficult to just survive there. Haven't you wondered why 30-year-olds still live with their parents in Spain?

Belair
02-18-2005, 02:10 AM
U.S.A. I hear Australia is very nice. I hope to visit there someday.
Its not bad,but its not the best country in the world.It doesn't have a good culture.I cant stand all the Aussie stuff like: Mate,G'day,and singlets and stubbies,etc.I dont like yobbos.
I especially hate the colours-green and gold.
I hear its the safest country in the world though,and Miss Universe did come from here, :)

Fleet
02-18-2005, 03:02 AM
:woohoo:
Yeah, I think it's time for the females to change into shorts. Especially this female: :D

Czas na Zywiec
02-18-2005, 03:09 AM
Okay, thanks for the explanation.
Somehow, I don't think we'll see people flocking to Singapore no matter where they place on the list.

Higher tax rates prevent private citizens from spending more than they sometimes would. Since the government gets some money when people spend, it actually hurts the government, too.
The health care may be free, but the service is very slow. That's one reason why many Canadians go to the U.S. for surgeries such as bypass because the waiting list is very long in Canada and many people don't want to risk waiting.

But they don't have to spend as much, that's the thing. They don't have to pay anything for medication, they don't need to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for their children to receive an education, etc.

I'm not talking about Canada, as I don't know how their system works. I'm mainly refering to European countries, specifically the EU, as I've lived there before and know how the system works. Obviously people wouldn't be as well off as they are if the system was working badly. Look at the chart - most EU counties are right at the top of the list, and they wouldn't be if their system didn't work. Europeans might have a little more in taxes, but they don't pay for basic things that Americans have to dish out thousands of dollars for. Americans have some things better, but they also have some things worse. Same goes for the EU. Nobody's perfect. Different people find different settings comfortable. Which is why it's great the planet is so diverse - to suit everyone's needs. ;)

Fleet
02-18-2005, 03:16 AM
But they don't have to spend as much, that's the thing. They don't have to pay anything for medication, they don't need to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for their children to receive an education, etc.

I'm not talking about Canada, as I don't know how their system works. I'm mainly refering to European countries, specifically the EU, as I've lived there before and know how the system works. Obviously people wouldn't be as well off as they are if the system was working badly. Look at the chart - most EU counties are right at the top of the list, and they wouldn't be if their system didn't work. Europeans might have a little more in taxes, but they don't pay for basic things that Americans have to dish out thousands of dollars for. Americans have some things better, but they also have some things worse. Same goes for the EU. Nobody's perfect. Different people find different settings comfortable. Which is why it's great the planet is so diverse - to suit everyone's needs. ;)
Well, as you know, public school is free in the U.S. and financial aid is available for certain people who qualify for some colleges.

Is there a waiting list in the European countries for health care?
The people who live in the countries at the top of the list don't have as much chance to succeed because of the high tax rate, for one thing. For instance, in general, it's easier to invest in the U.S.

Czas na Zywiec
02-18-2005, 03:57 AM
Well, as you know, public school is free in the U.S. and financial aid is available for certain people who qualify for some colleges.

Is there a waiting list in the European countries for health care?
The people who live in the countries at the top of the list don't have as much chance to succeed because of the high tax rate, for one thing. For instance, in general, it's easier to invest in the U.S.

I'm mainly refering to students in the University level. Some do, but not all. There's a lot of people, such as myself, struggling to keep afloat in this huge cash cow. It's ridiculous sometimes. That's the key difference. It's about the education - not the money.

And you can't say people can't suceed in countries you've never even lived in. People can say the same thing about their home country and it still wouldn't make a difference. And you keep bringing taxes into everything - not everything revolves around the taxes. And I've already stated it numerous times. Some countries may pay a little more in taxes but they're getting just as much BACK in the community. It's not all a terrible thing to have well maintained parks, public transportation, tourist infrastructure, etc. Or else no one would ever visit Europe. Basically, everyone is paying the same to live a comfortable life. The money is just dispersed in different ways. If it wasn't doing good, it would be apparant and none of those countries would have made the top of the list.

But my main arguement is that you're missing the point. My point is there is no "best" country on earth. It's an objective term used to describe someone's own personal experience. If someone was born in Australia, they say that was the best country in the world - if they were born in the United Kingdom, they'd say that's the best country in the world. And they have a right to it. After all, it's all objective with your own personal experiences and all merely opinion - not fact. ;)

Fleet
02-18-2005, 04:29 PM
I'm mainly refering to students in the University level. Some do, but not all. There's a lot of people, such as myself, struggling to keep afloat in this huge cash cow. It's ridiculous sometimes. That's the key difference. It's about the education - not the money.

And you can't say people can't suceed in countries you've never even lived in. People can say the same thing about their home country and it still wouldn't make a difference. And you keep bringing taxes into everything - not everything revolves around the taxes. And I've already stated it numerous times. Some countries may pay a little more in taxes but they're getting just as much BACK in the community. It's not all a terrible thing to have well maintained parks, public transportation, tourist infrastructure, etc. Or else no one would ever visit Europe. Basically, everyone is paying the same to live a comfortable life. The money is just dispersed in different ways.
Well, as the saying goes, "No country has ever taxed itself into prosperity."
It does not take high taxes to maintain public facilities if the money is spent correctly. The U.S. had a fine public system back in the early 1900s and the tax rate back then was only 10-12%.

BTW, can you provide a link to the list you posted? I would like to read up on it.

Hollow
02-18-2005, 06:11 PM
So you curse the U.S. but wouldn't want to live anywhere else?
As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating."
just because i hate a country doesn't mean i like any other country more. it's called grinning and bearing it.

Fleet
02-18-2005, 07:55 PM
just because i hate a country doesn't mean i like any other country more. it's called grinning and bearing it.
What is to "hate" about the U.S.?

Czas na Zywiec
02-18-2005, 09:45 PM
Well, as the saying goes, "No country has ever taxed itself into prosperity."
It does not take high taxes to maintain public facilities if the money is spent correctly. The U.S. had a fine public system back in the early 1900s and the tax rate back then was only 10-12%.

BTW, can you provide a link to the list you posted? I would like to read up on it.

I'm not going to carry on about the tax thing, because I already posted how I feel about that numerous times. You'll read it eventually. Main point is there is no best country. And that's it.

For the link, Seth already posted it - http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf.

Hollow
02-18-2005, 10:49 PM
What is to "hate" about the U.S.?
i really don't want to turn this into a political discussion, but it has a lot to do with george w. bush.

this country isn't an excruciating pain in the ass to live in or anything, but it pisses me off.

Fleet
02-18-2005, 11:16 PM
i really don't want to turn this into a political discussion, but it has a lot to do with george w. bush.

Oh, brother.
You probably don't really know anything about him (I mean facts, not what you've been told).

But, you're right, it shouldn't start as a debate (although I am more than capable of providing facts to counter whatever you think is true about him).

theshark8777
02-18-2005, 11:34 PM
He did invade a country based on false pretenses.

M82A1
02-18-2005, 11:43 PM
He did invade a country based on false pretenses.
You're right. Saddam got what he had coming.

Hollow
02-18-2005, 11:44 PM
Oh, brother.
You probably don't really know anything about him (I mean facts, not what you've been told).

But, you're right, it shouldn't start as a debate (although I am more than capable of providing facts to counter whatever you think is true about him).
you might be right actually, i've gotten a lot of my info on him from my dad's anti-bush calendar. :grr: